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66803032 No.66803032 [Reply] [Original]

Realistically how do you save NijiEN.
One of the founding members is fucking off, another old member is missing and will probably turn up graduated too soon after, and no one gives a fuck about the newer hires, everyone mostly cares about the older ones.

And your only competition isn't even Hololive anymore, it's Idol, V4Mirai, and fucking Phase Connect

What can realistically be done to not have this go completely into the shitter like NijiID/KR.

>> No.66803063

>>66803032
Why do the jannies let you keep making threads?

>> No.66803102
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>> No.66803319

Fire the clique
>B-but they are the most famous
Fire them, they are a cancer that spreads, just imagine on one hand you have a malignant brain tumor but it somehow gives you increased intelligence so you can be successful easily but you'll die soon enough, or you can remove it, struggle your way throught life but it is 100% guaranteed you'll leave to see another day for many many years, which one you choose?

>> No.66803412

>>66803032
Lower their superchat and merchandise percentages even further to encourage them to work harder.

>> No.66803488

>>66803032
>>66803032
There's only one solution. The one that's always worked- cut the branch, roll the top ones into JP, buy a new ya H t and make another gen

>> No.66803512

>>66803032
Okay I'll bite

Outwardly and unannounced visible good will towards the talents. Most people don't hate the talents, they pity them for having shitty management.

Tardwrangle your talents to stop getting baited to vent out their frustrations about how niji is universally hated. It gives off stockholme syndrome or reading-at-gunpoint vibes

Likewise, don't force your talents to read your Niji-is-great bootlicky prepared statements. Stockholme/read-at-gunpoint.

Fire Kyo.

Hire competent managers.

>> No.66803691

>>66803512
(me cont)
Fire your clique minus Elira, never hire anyone at Elira's suggestion. It's worked wonders for Vshojo

Apologize for going overboard with Zaion. Even if you had just reason to fire her, Niji looked very much like the bad guys by putting out a laundry list of technical infractions as well as actual infractions.

>> No.66804257

>>66803691
>Niji looked very much like the bad guys
Look at the QRTs of that tweet nigga. Everyone said she deserves it. Only contrarians /here/ lick her boot and even nowadays /here/fags hate her cause the bitch hangs out with doxniggers

>> No.66804980

>>66803319
No talent is "Killing" EN anon. I'd see you saying Kyo yea but it isn't a talent issue

>> No.66805068

>>66804257
>Has one (1) collab with nousagi months ago
>BITCH HANGS OUT (present tense) WITH DOXNIGGERS (multiple)
You're no better than the nijiniggers, unironically kys

>> No.66805182

>>66803032
they dont have many options. But it could be done. Get rid of Enna and Kyo, they are a cancer and a poison that infects the entire branch. Luca too. Tell Elira and Millie to step up to the plate but no more clique faggotry. Ease off the homo collab shit, its part of niji forever but don't push it so damn much, let it be a once in awhile thing. Stop fucking accelerating and actually support the talents you have, throw money at building them up, promoting them, making them feel valued so other non-shitters want to join you. It's going to take forever to rehab their image, and I honestly don't think they'll do whats necessary to do so. Realistically all thats going to happen is they'll keep throwing wave after wave of disposable 2 views to milk meager profits out of before tossing them aside, ad infinitum.

>> No.66805308

>>66805068
>An unironic shill
Lmao

>> No.66805557

most funniest thing about this is that hex, aia and scarle are the most superchatted in EN so this "no one gives a shit about later gens" while so many of them have better numbers than many on early gens is hilarious.

>> No.66805781

>>66805557
There's no way Aia gets more supas than vox

>> No.66805810

>>66803032
I'd cash them out, negotiate with Brave and convince them to buy the branch, this way they could slow down acceleration, move their management into NA/EU office for easier tardwrangling, and then just let them do what v4m does on a larger scale

>> No.66806430

Fire management
Fire everyone up to the last two waves besides elira and rosemi
Never listen to any recs elira makes, always avoid her recs
Rebuild from the ground up starting with that last wave with victoria
Two waves a year of three members each spaced out six months apart minimum
Work on building up group dynamics

Dunno if it's enough to save the branch at this point but it's largely all that can be done. burn it all down and start over and learn from mistakes past while following the blueprint that made lazusydia a success.

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>>66803032
tribute every single nijiEN except rosemi and special summon multiple rosemi copies as replacement
yes including the managers

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>>66805068

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>>66806948
You tried

>> No.66807611

>>66807530
What am I supposed to be looking at?
The inflated Twitch followers that don't matter or the fact that you're burning $5 a month on a dramawhore?

>> No.66807682

>>66807530
You proved me right lmfao >>66805308

>> No.66807767

>>66803032
Save?
Don’t worry they will be irrelevant anyways, in fact everything will be irrelevant once we aquire the 5555 play button
Everything is going according to keikaku

>> No.66807780

Sell the boat and reinvest it into the company as a gesture of faith. But honestly it is too late.

>> No.66807908

>>66807611
You should be looking in the mirror at your miserable self lmao

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>>66807682
Better than being a unironically nijinigger lmfao

>> No.66808175

>>66803032
burn him in his house

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Fixing NijiEN js extremly complicated but it starts at literally and unironically, and I mean this with the most seriousness

FIRE
EVERY
SINGLE
EN
MANAGER
And every JP manager that has any influence over EN too.

There is clear, extreme, mismanagement going on. Doesn't matter what the talents are like or what they do the point of managers is to stop them from doing it, and the managers themselves seem like EN antis a LOT of the time.

>Will this happen?
No because JP management, and seemingly EN management too, is FAR too prideful to ever admit their doing bad and make change. So nothing will ever change. And when they do decide to make change it'll probably be too late

>> No.66809164

>>66805781
vox is the only one above them

>> No.66809598

>>66803032
The only “saving” they can get is just a merciful kill, let Meloco and Shu join JP branch

>> No.66809610

>>66808300
It already is too late, they just lost the talent most dedicated and passionate about nijisanji itself. I'm not going to say everyone else will follow and the branch will die, but the feeling of auto-pilot that permeated many streamers last year will become the norm for many of them. Why bother thinking of cool, fun projects to promote the brand, your colleagues or yourself, when you'll run into a wall of dinosaur bureaucracy that does not want you doing anything but sticking to a weekly streaming schedule.

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>>66803512
>Fire Kyo.
This. I will never trust a traitor who will turn on their own for twitter pats on the back. He's a two-faced, lying hypocrite in order to stroke his narcissistic ego. Normally people can learn to be better, but in this case, like many like him, it's terminal, he'll never change.

>> No.66809785

>>66804257
>Look at the QRTs of that tweet nigga. Everyone said
>QRTs
Quote retweets are the tool of the terminally online sick when used to attack people.

>> No.66809802

why do you keep making this thread OP

>> No.66810285

>>66809802
Why do you keep replying this thread

>> No.66810299

>>66803032
I'd ask /vt/ to farm ideas.... wait a second

>> No.66810352

>>66803032
The people with the power to make the changes needed are major parts of the problems. A merge into the main branch is far from inevitable, however I don't see their current team managing to avoid that outcome.

>> No.66810396

>>66809785
>People didn't support it at all
>EXCEPT THOSE PEOPLE IGNORE ALL THOSE PEOPLE
Goalpostmoverbro...

>> No.66810605

>>66803032
He looks like an intern out of place there. Is this some kind of edit?

>> No.66810706

>>66809691
The fact that this fucker "apologized" for this response on stream is still so fucking pathetic. There's a few people in nijien I'm sour on, but for the most part I don't mind them and I'll watch any collab that has anyone... except Kyo. He's such a pathetic, spineless, slimy, cowardly worm and he makes everything he's in completely unwatchable. If anyone should be leaving nijien in a few days, it should be him, and it would already be too late.

>> No.66810737

>>66803032
I wouldn't say a single word to them, I would just listen because that's what no one did.

>> No.66810821

>>66803319
How is "the clique" detrimental to Nijisanji? Is the clique fucking up perms and denying the other talents opportunities? Is the clique delaying the 3Ds? Did the clique cancel the AR live? Is the clique vacationing members who step out of line?

>> No.66811024

>>66810821
Its everyone else's fault but management please understand

>> No.66811197

>>66803032
Hire only males, focus only on males, return to being the king of big corpo male vtubers

>> No.66811339

>>66803032
Ok.. So basically whatever the fuck Reimu is doing collabing with as many holos as she can from every branch, but with the livers that people actually like.

>> No.66811342

>>66810396
And there were people who were saying the shit on the list had bullshit on it, wondering why the fuck Nijisanji wasn't doing a goddam thing to stop the slander from psychotic nijisisters.

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>>66803032

>> No.66811478

>>66811197
This would work if the hired good guys
Lux was unironically a perfect wave then they ruined it and hired non-good guys

>> No.66811622

>>66810706
Remember when he made a big scene about Enna being "racist" for laughing at a reasonably harmless observation? Went on discord to give her a personal reeducation pogrom about her evil racist ways, and then when it was his woopsie, never apologized, doubled down, and then got suspended with little attention.

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>>66803032
How can Kurosanji even improve if the employees keep bending over backwards to prevent criticism?

>> No.66811931

>>66803032
Who knows. Pic related was already CEO for the two years before the branch went to shit, so I wonder what happened. How do you go from meeting the talents daily on discord calls to ‘1%, my yacht needs a gold toilet’?

>> No.66812217

>>66810821
I'm yet to see any actual "clique behaviour", because it really seems like /vt/'s boogeyman.

>> No.66812262

>>66811931
The adrenochrome child sex orgy cults on international waters yacht club has him.

>> No.66812351

>>66803032
NijiEN can't be saved.
It will soon become the 4th biggest EN vtuber group(HoloEN #1, Vshojo #2, Phase #3, NijiEN #4)
Their only hope is that they keep Elira and her clique happy. If one of them leave, they all leave. And that means NijiEN will literally be nothing but males and 3vus

>> No.66812961

>>66811622
That's crazy. Have you noticed how he claims to be such a savage when it comes to insults and burns, but all he can think of to retort when he's being teased is the most bland, safe insults? He's a real badass and so good at clapbacks, yet the time Zaion and Doppio ganged up on him he acted like a child and just shut off completely. His pity disease isn't acting fast enough.

>> No.66813122

>>66804257
Here is the one thing that you Nijiniggers don't seem to understand. It's very VERY bad to air your talent's dirty laundry and put them on a bullet list when most of her infractions are little things, that only make you look petty. Especially so when your company doesn't have the tradition to do that, fucking Shindo Raito was far more egregious than her and you don't see NijiJP act like fucking children like NijiEN management.

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>>66809610
This 100%, the thing I loved so much about Niji from ~2 years ago is that despite they had so many creative and crazy streams, and impromptu collabs. Now it's just "yeah I'm playing $game again".

I'm so sad about it. They could have had so much. *We* could have had so much.

>> No.66813942

>>66813122
>Ask for transparency
>Finally get transparency
>Seethe
Lol

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>>66813122
I think it was extremely based though because she was a new hire and broke every rule under the sun.
But I know you're a literal Sayu shill and sub so you'd never want to admit that she did anything wrong or acknowledge any realistic nuance, but the reality is firing your new hire 3 months in with no explanation is a bad look.
And unless you have any proof against it, there's no reason to believe it wasn't true, especially how she acts now that she's out.

>tl;dr
It was a good decision and a good message to future applicants that if you fuck up you get fired (obviously). Hell even Idolcorp did it and they're the "nijikillers" but even then that whore's fans still say she didn't do what she literally admitted to doing, so the cope is forever strong I guess

>> No.66814211

You would have to go back in time.

NIJIEN are getting their receipt for genspam.
When you oversaturate your own brand too fast, it becomes law of diminishing returns.

Phase Connect needs to head their warnings. No new gens for them for at least a year or longer.

>> No.66815147

>>66813942
>Ask for transparency
>Gets "COVID"
>Seethe
Sounds like the proper response

>> No.66815406

>>66814192
Its just funny though, because Sayu is literally the start of Niji downfall and 2% rumor, she literally winning still winning as NijisanjiEN crumble to dust

>> No.66815493

>>66815406
>she literally winning
Like I said in my post you're a literally shill and sub and won't acknowledge any wrongs even when she shits on her own artist or has to bring up Niji for any relevance so there's no point in even arguing

>> No.66815625

>>66803032
It's not even hard, just don't be a black corpo lmao

>> No.66815655

>>66803032
now? there is nothing to do, it's ogre
maybe going back a few months before Nina left and get rid of the wigger, enna and friends

>> No.66816058

>>66812217
Because it is. Catalogtroons think elira is a mastermind who torments nijien so much that she forced out pomu

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>>66816058
Yeah but in fact, in was Luxiemtroon all along

>> No.66816265

Stop the acceleration
Fire half the management and hire people who aren't lazy and prideful.

>> No.66818932

>>66812961
Holup, when did this happen?

>> No.66818994

>>66813942
>Ask for transparency
>Gets "transparency"
>Continues bootlicking

>> No.66819067

>>66815493
Her mama is literally in her new lore video, your argument is invalid

>> No.66819187

Branch's kinda rotten to the core now. Just get rid of it? Stop accelerating and focus on developing the talents that you have? Increase talent shares on merch/supas so they have an incentive to stay? Buy Riku a new yacht? All out war? Idk

>> No.66819616

>>66818932
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WpYb0nN-1DQ
I just remembered this worm fucker had a whole new model made where he's tall because he's so insecure of his anime avatar. It's probably why only Scarle and Aia have new outfits in Iluna and we've seen nothing from the rest.

>> No.66819816

>>66819616
Damn his skin is so thin no amount of Korean plastic surgery can save him

>> No.66821706

>>66813942
Just like when they used "Unforeseen Circumstances" on Selen's announcement, right?

>> No.66821988

>>66814192
>>66813942
See, this is why I said this is the one thing that you, Riku asslickers can't understand, and will not ever understand. There's a fine and thin line in PR management between "transparency" and making you look like a high school girl gossiping.
And I don't need to do the lifting to prove that for your black company, transparency was never their number one priority. How can you say that with a straight face when your AR Live was canceled because of "COVID"? This is why your company is hated left and right, one of the biggest reasons being dogshit PR management. But I guess keep licking their boots and calling it a based decision because I'm really looking forward to the inevitable NijiCN merger.

>> No.66822164

Is Noor still in charge or NijiEN?

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