/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

>>66718320
>face reveal stream
not a vtuber, go back

>>66718320
Those are some shitty goals. I wonder if he'll call his fans poor again if he doesn't reach 50k.

Yet another Rebecca thread I see.

>>66718320
>7 goals are face cam related
Vtuber group btw

Ironmouse did subathons for months right?

>>66718997
>>66718579
>all the ex nijis are going to be doing this
what a time to be alive

>>66718997
At this point, they really do feel like they're just normie streamers with avatars

>>66719016
One month. But she did two, one each year.
Difference with Kuro is the lack of timer, it is by far the "most scummy" things about subathons, because they rely on audience's FOMO. Kuro is just a marathon with the sub goals slapped to encourage people to sub, he would probably stream until the 31st, despite being half way there in the goals

>>66719100
>all nijis are trash
Honestly what a suprise, people have only been saying that for 3 and a half years now, its quite suprising that they are, indeed, trash

>>66718320
When will you finally hang yourself Rebecca?

>>66718815
He called them dumb just today.
https://youtu.be/ItxckZmiwbk?si=lwgonjww35qdF2e9

>>66718320
Who the fuck does he think he is having a 50K goal LMFAO

>>66719448
I hope they strike it down again Rebecca

>>66718815
you have to let go rebecca, he was just joking

>>66718320

Rebecca seethe.

>>66719448
but what if his fans like it?

>>66719705
That's in subs. So 250k in total.

>>66718320
50k doesn't feel like a very realistic goal

i hope he has to go back to the uk or whatever and gets arrested for tax evasion

>>66719276
Didn't Coco do this first?

>>66718320
>50k subs
pay his taxes femcel

>>66718320
lmao this dude is not gonna make it anywhere near his goal. Dude told all his major paypigs and potential fanbase to fuck off. What, did he think the fans of a primarily female vtuber group would want to give him money? Did he think normalfags would give him money? He's only good as fujo fodder. He should have taken advantage of that but he's retarded so I wouldn't expect him to know how to do anything. Can't wait until someone clips him breaking down on stream from it. We know he'll get one-guy'd about it.

>face reveal
Western """vtubers"""

>>66718320
>~350$ per hour
yeah it's so over for him

>>66720920
stop replying to yourself schizo

any "vtuber" that does facecams or face reveals shouldn't be allowed to be posted on this board. they aren't vtubers anymore.

>>66721076
>new IP
>"replying to yourself"
Lurk a thousand more years, newfag

>>66721183
don't reply to me, femcel

>>66718320
The worst is that he's probably an ugly fuck. Dude's really betting on a risky value.

>>66718320
>the literal top goal is 'makeup done by """"a friend"""" on stream'
>the literal maximum goal of trying to get as much simp bucks as possible is to actively cuck everyone live on cam

I mean, he did leave nijiEN because he disliked his old fans but he's got to be fucking delusional to think "well my old fans didn't like me for purposefully crushing their fujo dreams and twisting the knife, but you know what they're all wrong dummy dumdum stupidheads and that means everyone else in the world absolutely loves it and will give me millions."

I mean, people like Vei and Nyanners had the fucking exact same rationale. "Am I out of touch? No, it's the fans who are wrong."

>>66721183
not really that difficult to use multiple VPN's

mouse's second subathon also looked underwhelming for the first few days and she still ended up breaking the record set by herself the year before
but it was also a different kind of subathon with a timer, who knows how this one will go
I still expect him to hit at least 25k by the end of it

A reminder that nobody on this board cares about what this literal who m*le vtuber does and these threads consist of a singular schizo femcel having
a meltdown over being ugly and poor

Seek therapy or at least keep your monologues to the VShojo general instead of shitting up the catalog, that's the only advice I'm giving you

>>66721644
twitch demographics are mostly like, dudes in their 30s living with mom. I'm very much not joking. no surprise to me at all plenty of them would like Ironmouse and vtubers overall, but for male vtubers? unironically the gay crowd would be his target audience if he doesn't want fujos. normal dudes don't want to watch a bishie prettyboy be cutesy and flirty. like, not at all, not a fucking all.

the typical reason they'd even fucking entertain the idea is when they are compelled into it, guilt tripped into it, pressured into it by girl vtubers because they want to be seen as 'supportive'/'understanding' etc of whatever the girl does in an act of self-immolation orbiterness.

>>66718320
>only made $15000 over a 20 hour period
I can't imagine being this broke. Minimum wage in my city is $45000/hr and that's barely enough to live in the slums. How will he recover from this?

>>66721685
While that girl does exist, to go "literally all criticism ever for the rest of time is one person" is just a cop-out.

>Be Fl*p
>Get a hot white boy model
>Make it a subgoal to reveal your face anyway

Why are they like this?

>>66721901
Funny, until you remember Twitch takes a whopping 50% cut.

>>66718320
he got too cocky

>>66722023
>only made $7500 over a 20 hour period

>>66722023
He's probably partner plus, so he gets 70%

>>66721975
Do you really think the average catalogmonkey cares about a Luxiem dropout? His audience is like a solid 99% women confined to Twitter.

>>66718320
Because he has no timer and so no real incentive to sub

Did nobody learn anything from dream?
Faceless men will never live up to the standards set by their fans. Dream literally looked like some dude and he got fucking annihilated..

>>66722023
Every VShojo gets the plus, which is 70/30. There’s also money on ads

>>66722023
the vshojo girls are on the special 70-30 contract because of gunrun pulling strings, there's a high chance kuro is on it too

>>66722132
You could tell with dream that wasnt his natural weight he looked freaky. The fat dream you see today is what he hovers around.

>>66718320
>Wax leg with facecam
Why is a 37k goal a fucking punishment for the viewers? Who wanna see this?!

>>66722132
Well it didn't help that he's a cheating fraud, an unlikeable asshole and apparently an actual groomer pedo

>>66722278
And you go for weeks without showering. Nobody's perfect, sis.

>>66722132
Funny you mention that. He's been considering doing a parody of Dream's face reveal when he reaches the goal.
Right now it's looking more like an "if" than a "when" though,

>>66722275
His rabid fangirls...and anyone that wants to listen to his screams of agony. There's probably overlap there

>>66722248
70% vs 2%, yeah I'd quit too holy shit
that just makes too much sense

>>66722321
t. chumbud

>>66722275
fujos.

I suppose the real question is ".. are there even 37k hardcore fujos on all of Twitch period" and I don't know if there are honestly. assuming most if not the crushing majority of his fans are just Mysta fans migrating, those ex-mystakes would likely mostly be subbed already by now anyway. so what this subathon is doing is trying to canvas/probe to see just how many actually-new fans are out there potentially and clearly it's not that many. which is not a surprise because like I said a few posts up the twitch demos unironically are male unemployed fat loser stereotype made reality. why do you think twitch had to lay off 500 staff, is not profitable, and to my recollection literally never was? those dudes don't fucking have money lol.

>>66722278
Yeah but that was all lies spammed by twitter weirdos

Subathons are so scummy, especially for corpo vtubers.

thank you for your good work rebecca. Its amazing how this faggot fell down when he went to vshojo, hes less popular there with le creative freedo of doing face reveal and doing react content kek

>>66722623
Why?

>>66722498
The 2% is for the merch, it was never discussed how much they got their cut from suppas, probably not good either lmao

>>66722753
becca isn't the savior, common sense is. people getting egotistical thinking reality isn't what it is basically are tempting fate to eventually get checked+wrecked and either just keep denying it to their complete demise or eventually snap out of it. in mysta's case all he ever was was a pretend boyfriend boytoy bishie for chinese office ladies. if he didn't want that for his life (and frankly, I really don't blame him for not wanting that, I wouldn't) well I mean he is going to have to start over basically.

>>66722594
The cheating in his minecraft speedrun was certainly not a lie, and to be fair he IS a douchebag

>>66722935
Karl jobst did a video where I think he broke down pretty well why I think he accidentally cheated, but him being an ass if true.

>>66722935
nta but just wanna dogpile yes it was the fact he cheated. in /vt/ terms it'd be like if Selen got incontrovertibly outed for cheating in Apex. all her respect and cred for her apex skills would evaporate instantly and permanently. doesn't matter what she says or does after that, you'd never ever trust a stranger who cheated to be like "well it was just that time I'll never do it again honest."

>>66722498
2% is not what he got from streaming. It's from merch. That's why Niji members tell you to SC or even streamlab (opposite of Holo where merch is best to support talent).
Not sure what kind of merch has Kuro gotten and sold given how many gachikois he told to fuck off and even when a Subathon fails to get any traction.

>>66719762
Doesn’t twitch take a 50% cut of that though?

>>66718320
>Subathon
It's 2024, not 2018 anymore.

>>66723105
>Not sure what kind of merch has Kuro gotten and sold given how many gachikois he told to fuck off and even when a Subathon fails to get any traction.
He got a shirt, keychain, desk mat and some other stuff out of his merch drop. No idea of how much did they sold, but during the total sum of all the sales of the Makeshift collab he was in 4 (including ex members)

>50,000 subs
Oh boy, good fucking luck.

>>66722132
unironically this, every single girl would have gladly killed their family just to spend a second with that invisible man from that dracula movie... until they revealed his face.

>>66722248
There is no special contract anymore, but a system that anyone can participate if they reach the requirement (350 sub points)

>>66722132
thanks for reminding me im gay for soviet womble

>>66718320
He heavily implied that the friend that will appear for the 50K sub goal is Mika. She's a fashion designer and Kuro said chat would probably recognize her voice. I'm not sure how much his female fans would actually want to see her though.

>>66723807
It'd be like if Mori made a sub goal a Connor collab or something. Absolutely comical, but I mean if he fails hard on this maybe that'll give him a much needed ego check.

>>66723807
The impression I get is his fans laugh at him because they think he's funny, and want him to be happy because they think he's a loveable dumbass. Him hanging out with his maybe/maybe not girlfriend wouldn't go against that

>>66723807
He filtered everyone who was bothered by their relationship ages ago. Which is admittedly a lot of people. His page on SK is mockingly wondering if they'll make a couple channel once Mika debuts.

>>66718320
Who asked for IRL facecam streams?

>>66723931
>maybe

there is more evidence for then against

What's with all the vshills popping up here. Did ironkeks spunk rag gain sentience?

Twitch partners only get the 70/30 split up to 100k/year. Then they go back to 50/50. That's like less then 3 months worth of streams for a holo.

Hopefully he wont shit the bed come tax time again.

>>66723668
>>66722132
hell people were making fun of adam driver as kylo ren even with knowledge of his background as a marine
hollywood standards really got people fucked up
also people meme about kpop stars but honestly a lot of them are so-so too unless you got giga yellow fever, some of the older stars haven't aged that great but they still get showered with love and adoration so who really cares in the end

>>66718320
>9k for rage gaming stream
>17k for a pizza making stream
>20k for karaoke
Why are so many of these goals so expensive despite being regular stream ideas?

Rebecca thread aside, these goals are soulless as shit

>>66724276
uninspired boring ideas from an uninspired boring man who lucked out in life and now thinks he's hot shit. he's just shit.

>>66718320
>k9kuro burps
Why the fuck would someone want that? Gross

>>66718320
>face cam stream
I know this isn't anything new for Vshojo but I think it's weird to create an agency for "virtual talent" only to let your talent do face reveals & cam streams anyway, it dilutes the brand

>>66724276
Because he's broke and transparent that this subathon is for fixing his money issues. It's why the goals are stuff that wouldn't cost him much, either

>>66724053
>wondering if they'll make a couple channel once Mika debuts.
that's a fucking brilliant idea and a novel concept in vtubing. one of my favorite streamers had one with his wife and it was the cutest shit in the world but sadly they're both too busy to really do anything with it. hetero male btw.

>>66721644
Does Kuro have someone more successful like Conner which he can leech off of and get that person to beg for more subs for the subathon?

>People still doing "at x subs I'll eat spicy thing"

I beg you, please get new material. Everyone does it and it always sucks.

>>66724584
He's an easy raid target for every other VShojo member. He basically has all their oilers available

>>66724584
Shoto.

>>66724507
The main issue with something like that is if the relationship doesn’t last, which maybe it will, but he’s also a menhera so hopefully he doesn’t fuck anything up.

>>66724828
>menhera
Pretty sure he's just legit retarded, like severely intellectually challenged to the point I wonder if he actually forgets to wipe himself.

>>66721644
kuro doesnt have an illness for people to pity him over

>>66724683
Why would any of them want to give him money?

>>66718320
>FIFTY THOUSANDS SUBS
the fuck?

>the fucking goals
these are even worse than mouse. Why is he even doing this?

>>66725003
Because they find him funny and charming, I guess? I dunno, not my business to judge their taste

>>66724920
Hey, menhera and intellectual disabilities aren’t at all mutually exclusive.

>>66725028
To pay off his debt unironically

>>66725028
The longer he has been out of Nijisanji the more apparent he just wanted to do low effort content that clashed with JP perm autism. Probably the biggest reason to why he left since he wanted to get money but couldn't do what he wanted to make it. That would be reaction crap.

>>66724276
because subathons are always scams

>>66718997
Just don't post any of that stuff on /vt/ because apparently Kson posting her face on her vtuber channel isn't vtuber content. Just ban vshojo.

>>66719802
she started as a vtuber/face cammer, then joined holo. and then went back to being kson. it wasn't le ebin secret knowledge who she was so i don't really see why it matters.

>rebecca is working with BVTM and a legion of #monkeys to take down Vshojo
The Legion Of Brown

>>66725254
obsessed chimp

What is Subathon?
Does Twitch ask for money just to subscribe to a channel?

>>66725200
I find it so funny that when a chuuba leaves Hololive or Nijisanji to join VShojo, the first thing they do is starting to make low-effort reaction crap. The only one who avoided it is ironically Nazuna, and she probably left the company because of how different it was to Hololive in terms of content.

>>66725334
usually there's a timer that the streamer sets and they stream for that long and dono's and twitch subs increase the timer

>>66725350
Nazuna did reaction content too kek

>>66725225
This is bad even by subathon standards i’ve seen subathon/donothons provide much more exciting rewards that would actually require the money from the stream to be reinvested, but they still didn’t cost 50k subs.

>>66725325

>>66725350
>The only one who avoided it is ironically Nazuna
Nazuna had the lowest effort content out of all vshojos, but thank you for showing that you have no clue what you're talking about.

>>66718320
>40K -> KURO WILL MAKE A COVER OF ANY SONG DECIDED BY CHAT
You can tell how many newfags and vtweeters are on this board by how it did not immediately take this as an opportunity to mobilize and try to make him sing Alabama Nigger or something.

>>66725334
Twitch sub = YouTube membership
Twitch follow = YouTube sub

>>66725439
Thats because kuro doesnt care about making content he just wants his viewers to pay off his tax debt

>>66725380
>>66725518
Thanks for letting me know.
I hope our holos don't do membershipthon.

>>66725501
>>66725405
Really? Yeah I'll admit that I just used to check her page and see if she played some game, my b. That kind of amplifies it even further though, people really go into that type of content whenever they leave a JP corpo.

>>66725557
the fucking AI vtuber did a subathon too

>>66725350
True, her contract included 30 hours of reaction streams per week. Also she was forced into prostitution and flesh streams.
This was revealed in an unarchived twitcast.

>>66725644
>forced into prostitution
hot

>>66725200
React World would have saved us from this fate

>>66725627
>is wrong
>doubles down
Let me guess, you are a phasefan?

>>66725557
They would need to make their membership numbers public then, so seems unlikely.

>>66718320
KWAB

>>66725627
kson has done like 9x 2 hour long react streams in total in like 2 years of being on twitch
henya does react stuff for like 30 mins maybe once or twice a week if she eats lunch on stream
numbermonkeys pretend this is a big part of their content for some reason

>>66725557
On Youtube it's more in the norm to do donothons instead of membershipthons.

Imagine how much money Gura would make if she did a subathon, and said at the beginning of it that she won't stream for the rest of the year once it ends? Infinite money glitch.

>>66725818
you say that schizos are repeating the same shit they found on the catalog over and over again without checking and confirming their claims????

>>66719448
>if the minimum wage increases
>everything increases
He's right though. It's observably true.

I'm curious how many posts in this thread are Rebecca outside of the OP. Almost every single random post in this thread has a reply repeating the same stuff that reads like her posts.

But for everyone else literally the OP image shows why the number of subs are so high. He doesn't expect to hit 50k. It's an unrealistic goal set specifically because it's better to set your goals too high than it is to set them too low. This is how it works with anything donation-based. If you hit the goal then donations drop off a cliff, so setting the goal out of reach will keep them coming at a steady pace the entire time.

>>66725818
Well Henya isn't part of Niji x Holo. On the other hand Matara has been incorporating more reaction/watching content over the last month. As you said Kson really doesn't lean on it at all.

>>66725794
The chuubas in Phase do a shit ton of react content, I don't watch that shit. I just think that subathons and reaction streams are the laziest shit ever, and when you start showing your face to the internet like Kuro's going to, you shouldn't even be posted here.

>>66725200

>>66726031
don't forget donathons

>>66726009
why even do this?
what the point of pretend to have a goal if you aint working for it?

>>66726262
They're all just long streams to beg for money honestly.

>>66726300
Literally said it in the post bud. To keep donations coming in.

Who's Rebecca?

>>66725922
>Imagine how much money Gura would make if she ... stream ... e ... d

Probably a lot but she hates streaming and is scared of her own fans

rebecca if you're in this thread do you take commissions

>>66726031
then don't watch them. problem solved.

>>66726329
the accounts in this image are gone/deleted but here's your spoonfeed

>>66726330
I'd be scared of my fans if I was Gura too

>>66726319
if tyhey are gonna fall of a cliff is fucking dumb then because the fucking idiot has like 50 of those.
>knows he isnt gonna get the final goal
>but sets them high to keep subs coming
is such a contrarian actitude of wanting subs but not work for them and depending on some kind of psychological trick to get a few more. is dumb, he is dumb and whoever subbed is probably just as dumb.

>>66726484
calm down rebecca.

>>66718320
So this is a sister seethe thread huh? His subathon literally just started and doesn't end until jan 31st lmao.

>>66726531
That's 2 weeks and he's already struggling to get 1k subs per stream. You do the math.

>>66726484
What's not to get? The subathon's reasons have been stated beforehand. To help pay off debt. The nonstop streaming + the goals are the work being done for the subs. It's not like he's turning stream on and staring at a wall for 10 hours while expecting subs to keep going in. People sub because they like him and want to see the goals get done.

>>66726583
>14x3000=42000
Wow he'll almost hit the last goal at the rate he's going. I don't even give a fuck about homos but making you chinese teen girls seethe is ambrosia.

>>66726652
at least have some real goals.
asking for so much with little return is stupid if not malicious.

>>66726701
That's 1000 per stream. Not 3000.

>>66726701
That's assuming he can keep up that consistent momentum on a stream by stream basis.

>>66726735
>N-nooo! it's only 1000 per steam!
Not at the rate he's going. Ahhhh feels good to see an ex niji take a fat dump on stupid chinese girls faces. Feels great actually.

>>66726705
Can't go having goals that cost a ton of money when the whole point is to help pay off debt. Maybe a future subathon could have more flashy goals like new models or things that would need to be commissioned, but this one's been very honest about what the money is for. And plenty of people have done similar ones. Vexoria did a subathon a while back to help pay for her cancer treatment.

>>66726772
I mean we both know it aint happening.

>>66722163
It's not even hard to reach that, even people who average low 3-digits get that payout.

>>66726780
What are you talking about?
In his first stream he got 2000.
In his next stream he got 1000.
At the rate he's going he'll only get 500 subs the next stream.

>>66725334
For twitch
>follows = subscription
>subscription = membership

>>66726804
>cancer treatment
i mean that can get some sympathy
>not wanting to pay taxes
not su much. And im sure whatever indie you are talking about did a lot more reagrding their budget than kuro is doing now.
He can be as honest as he wants most people will still call it stupid.

>>66719100
A lot of EN ninis were barely vtubers, vtubing is more than just having a digital facemask. Its a combination of online geisha and idols. I would argue there can be a facetuber who is more vtuber than an actual vtuber that just treats it as a digital mask. If there was a girl who acted like a vtuber with fac3cam that would still be better than nijishit

>>66726849
>a-at this rate!!!!
Hahahaha! Love it. Love to see that cope. The cope only a below average chinese woman can come up with. Fuck I'm getting a real kink for chinese girl degredation.

>>66726967
>at the rate
>>66726780

>66726967
im still amazed that mistakes still exist.

>>66726840
Pretty sure it's 350 paid recurring subs, which is a little bit shitty since a lot of people will use their prime on the same person every month which doesn't count for those purposes. But any 4view should have no problem hitting that, and a good number of mid-high 3views as well.
>>66726910
It's not dodging taxes if the debt is being paid off.

>>66727021
Hey listen bitch. I'll pay you 500bucks to come to my apartment and be my fuck slave for 2 hours. How about it. It'll be the best offer you get in your life.

>>66727031
didn he move countries to avoid paying more taxes?

>>66726849
And the next day it'll be 250, and the next one 125? Anon, that's not how it works. Sure, there will be slow days, and then there will be huge days. And he will become the main raid target for the next weeks, which will congragate many of the big Vshojo donators to him. And that's without taking into consideration the small possibility of a golden kappa.
He should easily pass 10k subs, and it'll most likely end between 15k or 25k.

>>66727079
You're boring and all talk. I've read countless exaggerated come-ons to me in these threads in some bizarre attempt at intimidation and have yet to receive a single DM or email.

>>66727098
If he was moving to avoid paying taxes then why is he paying anything?

I don't watch the nigga but
>3000 subs in 20 hours
>1 sub is ~$5.99

This nigga made 18 thousand United States Dollars in just 20 hours, and (OP) (and others ITT) have made either $0 or minimum wage today, and are calling this a "failure".
Doesn't seem like a "failure" to me, even if he doesn't reach his goal. The only failure is the people who've made less than $18k in 20 hours I'd say.
Maybe that's just crazy though

>>66727079
Faggot

>>66727145
huge days only happen if you get new people to watch. Kuro aint getting any one of that is just a shameless money scam and ending up with 15k and 25k is just as bad.

>>66718320
>feet pic
>feet cam
>face reveal
>wax leg with facecam
>ring fit with facecam
>make up done by a friend
jesas

>>66719016
From what I understand it was 1 month once a year with the proceeds going to a charity but any vshojofags are welcome to correct me.

>>66727193
He doesn’t get half of that retard chama and who knows what vshojo takes

>>66727277
>He doesn’t get half of that retard
>who knows what vshojo takes
Well how do you know he doesn't get half it? Did the voices in your head tell you?

>>66727193
is in 2 streams with the 2k being on the first one and 1k the second.
It is a failure becasue he is looking at paying 400k in taxes he still owns to his goverment which i doubt is the case for most poeple who make less than 18k with 20hrs of work
And there is still the twitch cut and all that.The point is that is jsut a really bad subathon.

>>66721997
>sub 80 IQ who owes 350k in taxes
what did you expect from him

>>66727315
Twitch literally takes half the revenue

>>66727270
only part of it goes to charity she gets the rest.

>>66727338
Did he actually say that?
I doubt anyone who isn't a millionaire owns 400k in taxes

>>66727270
The first one (Feb 2022) was until the timer ran out so it was something like 36 days? Not long after a month though. The second one (June 2023) was set to take an entire month specifically so she could try and get the number as high as possible and half of the money went to charity that time. She's been going back and forth on whether she wants to do one this year but yeah, they've both been roughly 1 month long and were separated by over a year.

>>66727277
Vshojo doesn't take anything, but he does have to put a portion of that aside since that's taxable income along with the rest of it going to his current debt.

>>66727392
You been living under a rock? It's been talk of the town lately. He racked up some huge debt due to late payments.

>>66727392
he literally did becasue the motherfucker decided to buy fucking land and forgot about taxes and getting a good acountant.
He was making amd cash while in nijisanji and he spilled all of it by the looks of it.

>>66727270
The subs are split 50/50 between charity and herself. All of bits etc. go to charity.

>>66727460
>>66727496
In my post the first things I said was I don't watch him, and if that's true he's just retarded then but I'm not surprised he's known to be a genuine retard

>>66727152
did ant dm you yet? I heard she needs help to host more doxx info on her cp discord

Kuro was incredibly hyped up about the notion of facecam streaming so if he can't reach that goal I imagine it'll be pretty embarrassing for him.

>>66727152
Then stop nuking your twitter accounts rebecca

>>66725445
>>66725325

>>66718320
50k subs as in paid subs? that's insane and I don't think even the most popular female vtuber can get 50k people to be active subs/members, no way in hell a male vtuber can reach this level. At the end of the day despite vtubers going mainstream popular on certain occasions, it's still a niche interest.

>>66727539
is one thing to be a stupid but this is just pathethic.
most inde subathons are to help with finances becasue the lack of money. Rent went too high, meidical expenses, a proyect,etc.
Kuro money problems come from haivng money and not having it next which of course wotn have the same imapct to most random viewers. Specially when this guy can easily move countries.

>>66727587
I don't give a shit about this all but its funny how he makes it such a big deal but Matara just does it on stream randomly and moves on

>>66727587
Nah he's said its pretty unreachable and that he wanted to do it later in the year this would just make it happen WAYYYY earlier

I know /VT/ is just whiny bitch central but can you at least make your bitching make sense?

>>66727152
That's fucking sad. I guess you'll have to settle for bvtm and ant then, who just want to exploit you to further their grudge against everybody.

>>66727392
The moron tried to write off buying a house as a business expense and I’m not joking

>>66727807
his subsathon sucks ass.
the goals suck, the content suck and the reason for it suck and it is only to suck succkers money.
That is it. People just waiting for him to fuck something else again and this will be his next failure. That is the geist of it.

>>66727152
That sounds like you actually want to get dicked down for money by anons on this board desu

>>66720920
He believed in Twitter to support him like they said they would.

>>66722342
Truthfully I think its for the best that it just ends up staying a concept that never gets to be seen.

>>66727975
if it's kuro she'll unironically do it for free kek

>>66727807
>Give me a quarter of a million dollars worth of subs so I can take sexcations in 3rd world countries and fuck up on taxes again and lose it all (*￣3￣) I'll give you a face reveal (that I'm going to do anyways uwu)
That's why its bad anon.
But then again I'm not giving him money so I have no stake in this, sorry for those who are giving him money though

>>66727902
Has he had one of his meltdowns at least? If not I don’t really care about it because it’s just someone not liking his mundane sub goals.which is why I think it’s just people bitching here.

>>66726031
Subathons don't make sense if you just clock out after 8 or so hours. If you're gonna do one then at least do it like Ludwig

>>66728081
he is so washed up in viewership i dont think even trolls care about him anymore to look for imaginary fights.

You know I thought once he joined Vshojo, he was going to court a more male-centric fanbase, especially with how he talked about his old Niji fans. But looking at some of those goals, that's out the window. It's a shame, he is unironically hilarious and was making Oneyplays references in his first week at Niji, which is fitting since he's basically a British version of Cory. But he just can't shake his abysmal kpop fanbase and that continues to affect his content.

>>66722132
>>66727718
>>66721997
>>66727587
He's already "face revealed" plenty of times by either using his irl account to reply to himself or straight up using a png of his actual face when his live2d was having issues so the subtotal is specifically to do an rtx stream

How he got his fans to still stick by him and throw money around despite knowing he looks nothing like his vtuber model defeats me

>>66728091
subathons used to be that. Endurance test.
But suddenly it was ok to sleep on stream or not even stream anymore.
not sure who started the change but it is what it it is.

>>66718320
>face reveal
but we know how he looks like? Or did I just dreamed that?

>>66728259
>>66728235

>>66728235
sunken cost fallacy

>>66723764
they still do custom contracts for some special cases, that's the kind of deal gunrun negotiated for them
nyanners mentioned it a while after the new partner changes took effect, she said she was still on a 70/30 split because of gunrun even though she'd already left vshojo by then
all the new vshojo debuts also get partnered before they even stream once so it's not the only platform policy they get to circumvent because of gunrun's connections

>>66728235
>fans to still stick by him and throw money around despite knowing he looks nothing like his vtuber model
Uh anon, I promise you your oshi doesn't look like some fucking half-animal half-human or demon or angel or whatever the fuck caricature they are.
They're all anime and virtual, that's the entire point of the hobby. If you want people to look realistically accurate then watch fleshstreamers

>>66728324
judging by the CEO of twitch talk that looks like it will change. same with prime going away.

>>66727152
what's your twitter bb i'll dm you

>>66728463
she's all talk and no bite every account she's made she's either privated or deleted when it got too much attention but maybe that just means she likes the chase kek

>>66728235
They stick around for his personality and voice. And a major point of vtubing is to have a fun, unique appearance different from IRL. Otherwise, you might as well just fleshtube.

>facecam
this nigga is really that desperate huh

>>66728563
no one would stand his face for so long.

rebecca install tinder get sex.... God let it go

>>66728660
she's deep inside ant's std ridden pussy give her a minute

>>66724149
Thats the standard contract everyone gets yeh. The big streamers all have custom contracts, and apparently Gunrun was able to get all of Vshojo onto custom contracts. He has a lot of contacts at twitch, people forget he was one of the OG's there.

>>66718320
50000 SUBS? is $250000 a normal subathon amount for vshojo?

>>66726199
bro link me up I want to see what retarded take he had and his chat's reaction

>>66718320
>Where will he go from here?
into the gas chamber hopefully

>>66728756
no, he is being stupid

>>66728756
for him anything above 10k is just a pipe dream, a fluke or bait for more donations

>>66728591
His viewers already know how he looks like. He's had streams where he he just left his picture on the screen and no one gave a shit.

>50K
>me and mika sextape

>>66718320
Rebecca is it true that you used to be Fulgur’s mod and then he fired you? Is that why you hate comfydants?

>>66728756
He stupidly thinks he can replicate his success at Niji.

>>66728937
no one wants to see his tiny boiled peanut dick

>>66728249
Going to sleep is ok because i wouldn't want them to end up in the hospital, but it should be one stream that either ends when it's the last day or the timer hits zero.

so why does this rebecca chick feel so scorned in the first place?

>>66729200
it should end when you reach your limit. Sleeping defeat the purpose

face reveal? doesn't he already post his face pics on his sub...

>>66729237
Since the rumors of mika joining have amplified recently you can take a guess

For Mika's subathon I want her to do a Chaturbate masturbation stream.

>>66729237
he called her poor once

>>66725514
>185k to have him decline a song and ask for a different one
Genius

>>66718320
Is there a SINGLE ex-Niji EN that has become as or more successful than they were in Niji EN? People keep blaming Niji for holding them back or screwing them over, so how are they doing without Niji EN?

>>66731242
But Yugo actually has tangible talent, so it makes sense

>>66731242
Nina has more viewers and Gundou makes more money

>>66730766
Yes, if you stop thinking at the first obvious obstacle, that's where it ends.

>>66724276
Still in the nijinigger mentality, hell the whole time since he changed agencies I'm starting to believe that he got fired for legitimate reasons.

>>66724276
Subathons/donothons are bullshit, most of the "rewards" are regular stream ideas or things that are worthless to anyone except regulars

>>66721644
>mouse's second subathon also looked underwhelming for the first few days and she still ended up breaking the record set by herself the year before
Only because Connor swopped in at the last second in order for her to reach her goal

>>66731242
Nina is a lot more popular now than in nijien and Gundou and Akane is earning as much as the top livers according to them

>>66732131
>except regulars
What percentage of regular viewers do you think have paid money before? They're the extreme minority of superfans. The value proposition of events like these is ultimately the excitement, and the social pressures involved in a community event push non-paying viewers, who only needed a little nudge of coercion, into FOMOing in. They're still the regular audience.

>>66732686
Akane's not back yet youre thinking of Warabeda

>>66732686
>>66731722
>>66731242
theres been 50 graduations in nijisanji overall and anons can only cite the same few names.. which tells the story that most of the others wasted in irrelevance after leaving and only a few became bigger or retained the same size..

>>66732686
Nina is a part of a popular corpo. Anon probably means nijis that went straight to being indie

>>66731242
nina and yugo. zaion didnt and mysta became less popular than when he was mysta

>Facecam
I love when vtubers do this and have a melty over their fans being disappointed and leaving kek

>>66728756
mouse's subathon last year raised 205k subscribers.

3022 more than he deserves

>>66727251
These are all such bad ideas, it'd be fine if he were a cute femboy but he's a fat SEAnig irl

>>66718320
>Face reveal
why on gods earth do vtubers always think we want to see their mugs? do they just not understand what the 'v' in 'vtuber' means? fucks sake.

>>66723807
The K9s in /vsj+/ seem to be plenty aware of her and view Kuro more as a retarded son than a boyfriend

>>66720982
His face reveal is gonna be the new dream

>>66721975
Yesterday Rebecca posted a thread about her anti video getting taken down and spoke in the first-person

Surely it must be a coincidence that another Kuro anti thread shows up today and quickly links Rebecca's video >>66719448

>>66719448
>vtuber anti with 15k subs
I'm assuming this used to be a Mysta clips/fan channel before being turned into a Kuro anti channel? I feel like I'm looking at an abandoned amusement park here.

>>66723140
Correct

>>66728751
There’s no way that’s true considering twitch is hemorrhaging money and his “contacts” were probably among the ones canned meaning not important. I know a streamer that averages a couple thousand views, and his huge in the video game community being a content creator for nearly a decade, also technically bigger on yt, but he got knocked down to the 50/50. Some of vshojo probably got the special contracts but definitely not all

>>66738386
>>66722098

>>66722098
Partners don't get that split anymore. Twitch got rid of those awhile back. Everyone is on 50/50 now

>>66725350
Nazuna wanted to do sleep streams until her manager told her that those don't qualify for her streaming quota.

>>66738868
https://blog.twitch.tv/en/2023/06/15/introducing-the-partner-plus-program/ Readtard

>>66738778
You post this but even if he is partner plus it only counts for the first 100,000 which averages to about 62%

>>66718320
What'd he expect when the very first thing he did when joining vshojo was to tell his fattest whales to fuck off.
>>66733288
Most anons don't pay attention to NijiJP at all, they only know about Gundou cause she actively shit talks Niji management even after she left.

I know this is a vshoujo related thread so I'll probably catch flak for this, but I seriously question the way some parts of the western vtubing community are so fast and loose with the face reveal shit. Like, what even is the point of vtubing at that point if you're just trynna be a regular streamer just with an avatar.
I've always thought that the vtuber was a mix of both the "character" and the "nakanohito/roommate/whatever term you use", but that the character took precedent.
Westerners should already understand this since they're really into gtarp and shit and those streamers are way better than the japs at acting out their characters, and the ones that just self insert are super boring in comparison. Idk, the way some people treat the scene is like doing pro wrestling without the kayfabe or the stories.

>>66739900
I feel like it’s kind of an obligatory holdover from an earlier time for content creation, you used to see this a lot with faceless creators that would do a face reveal for some random subscriber milestone. I guess theres a perception that knowing what someone looks like brings you closer to the creator, which maybe it does to some extent for some people, doesn’t really make a difference to me though.

>>66739188
well theres also lulu which is probably the other case with more popularity but overall counting id, kr and jp, only like 5-8 at best out of 50 are bigger or same size after graduation

>>66721150
They are still VTubers as long as they have a Live2D or 3D anime model. They're just shitty VTubers

What's the deal with facecam? Isn't VTubing about preserving a kayfabe?

>>66731722
There’s no way Gundou makes more money

>>66718320
Well fuck looks like he is going to jail after all
Is vshojo going to pay for his lawyer?

>>66742133
Kuro is someone who never gave a shit about vtubing and only saw it as a shortcut to internet fame. He doesn't even watch anime besides porn and faux-porn shit

>>66721246
And don't reply to me, faggot.

>>66722321
Imagine defending Dream of all people. I thought you fags hated men like him

>>66745459
Kuro was easily in the top 3 of most anime seen out of the livers back when he was in NijiEN, he's seen a lot of shit he just gravitates towards romcoms because he's in a perpetual state of >tfw no gf

>>66745338
Can an American lawyer represent a bong living in Indonesia?

>>66739900
There's so little you can actually do with content as only a vtuber brother. Many try to intregate it, but it's just an extra step, wanna do some cooking like Giri? Well, get to set up green screens, cameras, having to make or buy and wear a full green suit, BESIDES the cooking shit, oh and also get your tracking ready and in a spot where you can be tracked by it and doesn't fuck up. Or, just do whatever other cooking channel makes. Wanna do a vlog? Oh make sure you aren't on camera, your skin isn't showing, no reflections, blah blah, or just record yourself. See what I mean?
Now for Hololive, and other corpos, there's a bit more playground with the 3D technology they have, but it's still not enough for some.

>>66746444
You'd have to look up ID law if they allow foreign representation.

>>66721562
>pays for vpns
>use it to samefag on vt
I kneel.

>>66745777
rebecca if this is you whats your new twitter you wanted DMs earlier here >>66727152

>>66746444
American lawyer who knows British and Indonesian tax law sounds like something out of his pay range.

>>66719100
>Pomu is leaving and going to join Vshojo
MORE POMU TITTIES! /b/ JUST CANT STOP WINNING!

>>66718320
WHOOPS

>>66727694
I mean

>>66742133
Vshojo doesn't give a shit about Kayfabe. They are basically e celebs with vtuber models.

50k goal is crazy. What was he thinking

>>66752931
Kuro doesn't give a shit about kayfabe. Everybody else has some level of kayfabe.

During subathons like this, how much do they actually stream vs rebroadcasting? I know Ironmouse would stream a lot of rebroadcasts for her subathons.

>>66721409
He announce he lives in Jakarta. More than risky

>>66719448
He is right?

>>66753356
Kuro, none. When he goes to sleep, chill or take a break, he turns off the stream, because he's not in a timer, and since he's streaming for 12 hours
>Ironmouse
As many others, some record themselves sleeping (like Ironmouse) and some rebroadcast stuff during it to fill the dead air, doesn't really do much, fanbases only case about the timer, and likely they have already watched that stream. It's the same as her going offline, and you pulling up a vod

The more I read about this spastic the more I hate him
The more I read about Rebecca the more she seems like a based retard.

Here are some actual insults you can throw at him: HE IS WORKING CLASS.
That's it. His accent is a massive handicap in the UK, he could never get a high paying job due to his shitty accent. Mock him for it, call him a chav, a pikey, etc.

T.non-poor bong

>>66722538
37k? Definitely way more than that.

>>66726943
>If there was a girl who acted like a vtuber with fac3cam
I'd cum very hard.
Please if there is one, point me to her.

How long would somebody go to prison for tax avoidance in the UK?

Rebecca if you are here still accounting can just be used as a universal degree for fucking anything relating to a corpo, get a basic desk job as HR. You will hate it and people will hate you but you have to build your resume
>>66756640
10-15 years max.
Likely he would get a light sentence since there is no malicious intent, just retardation, they would look at lack of higher education, working class background etc and see he doesn't know what he is doing and look at the issues of working self employed for a foreign company.
The fact he ran to Indonesia can be seen as malicious though.

There was R v Herrold(I think) which gave precedent to influencers not being slapped hard but given a fine that puts them to living poverty levels.

T.law fag

If I've learned one thing from this board it's that subathons are a seethe factory.

>>66757410
He ran to Indonesia?

>>66759462
i think he flew

>>66761040
Listen here you little shit

>>66718320
Those are some really shitty goals

>>66718579
thats the best take

>>66761131
by plane, i dont think he can fly like superman

>>66718320
shouldn't have left Nijisanji

>Subathon
>In 2024
Now I know why Vshojo is called a retirement home.

>>66733134
>Akane's not back yet youre thinking of Warabeda
No, Akane has been doing irl stuff instead of vtubing and has been doing pretty well