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66705389 No.66705389 [Reply] [Original]

Can NijiEN unironically turn things around if they made a public apology to picrel?

>> No.66705553

who is that? is that an ai generated vtuber model?

>> No.66705554

>>66705389
They'd have to fire the entire management up to the Japanese retard that's in charge of the EN branch.

>> No.66705636

>>66705389
not really no. they have to actually change how things are run to turn it around

>> No.66705670
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>>66705389
Why do Sayufags keep lying?

>> No.66705731
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66705731

No but they could stand a chance by making a public apology to picrel

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>>66705389
>turn things around
Why? Everything is fine at Nijisanji. Nijifans support the corporation and stock value, not the talents.

>> No.66705903

>>66705760
Imagine getting so much hate for just wanting to play Genshin with your old account.

>> No.66705984

>>66705903
Hey, THAT reason for hating her is absolutely justified.

>> No.66706120
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>>66705760
>hating Zaion for the 1 (one) rape joke that she did and instantly regretted making
>meanwhile Vox was getting rich doing ERP ASMR rape streams

>> No.66706149

>>66705903
It's not that. They hate her because the company told them to.
Pomu's been getting it and Selen will get this very soon.

>> No.66706191

>>66705984
>Manager: you can use your old Genshin account
>Zaion: ok *plays on old Genshin account*
>Manager: actually nvm you cannot >:( you are fired
Yup, justified

>> No.66706252

>>66705389
too late now

>> No.66706331
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66706331

>>66706120
Check this out

>Using a copyrighted song in her stream without prior authorization
Luca has not apologised. >>>>/vt/thread/S23331437#
Uki fucked around and finds out. >>>>/vt/thread/S25840152#p25842536#
>Revealing internal information that can potentially cause issues for stakeholders during her stream
Everyone in here revealed how assblasted they are. Zaion's probably inside too. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zg2XZDyi7Vs
>Making statements that could lead to speculation or leaking of internal information using social media accounts that she personally operates, during her activity suspension time
Statements leading to speculation about event cancellation: https://files.catbox.moe/8x52vs.jpg & https://files.catbox.moe/q089sc.png
Statements leading to speculation about merchandise profits: https://files.catbox.moe/33y8k4.mp4
Zaion's Streamlabs was terminated at this point if this refers to the liking of comments.
>Offensive remarks regarding discrimination and sexual assault
Zaion speaking facts: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0tkQAkTSREM and https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LwftoO7-1lo
Zaion read a comment painting her as the queen of jews (not a self-declaration): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xa38OJjHe2I
Racism against Sikh characters: https://www.youtube.com/clip/UgkxWwUzINSE6pSdX9GW_X1FBY7ZSpPEOulo
Stereotyping co-worker's accent: https://twitter.com/meIomaid/status/1585489887620366336
White face: https://archive.is/WbisT
Picrel
Joking about HIV: https://files.catbox.moe/oucrjs.mp4
Fans named after Sickle Cell disease: https://www.sparksicklecellchange.com/what-is-sickle-cell/what-is-sickling
Says he's uncomfortable with sexual assault, "accidentally" brandishes a dildo in front of his audience (which has many minors): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fSeZguoOrkM
Kotoka teaches Mysta how to declare anal sex: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n0skgeKVyjE&t=415s
Mysta uses it on Riku Tazumi (it's ok because he's drunk): https://youtube.com/watch?v=tPKszHFkToc&t=80
>Several infringements of the Rules pertaining to the use of games defined by ANYCOLOR Inc. (including intentional infringements) and repeated false justifications given to ANYCOLOR Inc. regarding these infringements
Zaion fucked up. No idea what these rules are.
>Expressing her will to perform streams using illegal games (also referred to as pirate games)
You can't capture footage from a 3DS without a third party capture card or software which requires custom firmware. Game and console modding are both illegal in Japan. Most likely to be emulation.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uc-FZGqMsLg and https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1KrS-xfO57E and many more.
>Comments that can be considered offensive to the rights holder of a game during a stream
If the rights holder were such pussies then they should shut the fuck up and delete their game.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VIXlcR4rnls
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bq6jBTGzXLE
This might refer to a joke about an island in Genshin Impact called AIDS by the community, but clearly HoYoverse gives no fucks about the word: https://files.catbox.moe/rpttcq.png
>Giving false information to other NIJISANJI EN Livers regarding the contents of her communications with ANYCOLOR Inc.
Zaion fucked up. Finana reads a script with as much finesse as Biden so I do not trust her statement.
Zaion was also forced to give false information to her fans by management, proving stealth suspensions happen in Nijisanji EN: https://files.catbox.moe/u1t1ni.png
>Falsely claiming to have received permission from ANYCOLOR Inc. after a viewer commented on Zaion performing an action prohibited by the Rules
Zaion fucked up if true.
>Falsely claiming to be sponsored by a brand during a stream
Sponsored by Raid Shadow Legends and deez nuts jokes. Nothingburger. Management is out of touch with the world.
Turning Amamiya Kokoro's name into a deez nuts joke: https://files.catbox.moe/85ybja.mp4
>Giving "likes" to comments falling under defamation of NIJISANJI Livers and ANYCOLOR Inc., using social media accounts that she peronally operates
Zaion's Streamlabs was terminated at this point. It should be free reign for her to use her private social media in any way she wants.
"Defamation" of other vtubers in their company: https://files.catbox.moe/23ybzo.mp4
>Numerous other actions and comments infringing the Contract and Rules
Incapable management thinking etcetera is acceptable. If putting someone on blast at least do it like their main branch: https://twitter.com/nijisanji_app/status/1318898278059053057

For other "offenses" that did not lead to termination, see: https://rentry.org/exx63 and https://streamable.com/2qgth0
They just have to behave for a little while again to wipe their slates clean: https://streamable.com/51juoi

>> No.66706448

>>66706191
It was more like
>Can I play Genshin with a different account?
>Sure, as long as it's not the one from your PL
>Uh. Yeah, sure. *plays Genshin with the one from her PL*
>Wait. No. Stop that. I'll look into it. Just stream something else.
>What. Ok. *complains to a different manager*
>What are you doing? I said I'll look into it. Stop bothering people.
>Sorry. Ok. *complains to a different manager*
It was a nothing burger, but Japanese corpos are retarded as fuck and Zaion pissed off the wrong guy.

>> No.66706454

>>66705731
roru. rumao even. Selen will get the boot and nijiniggers will act like it was completely justified.

>> No.66706540

>>66706454
They're already trawling through every appearance she's ever made, compiling absolutely everything that can be twisted into an infraction of some sort.

>> No.66706619

>>66706331
>Giving "likes" to comments falling under defamation of NIJISANJI Livers and ANYCOLOR Inc., using social media accounts that she peronally operates
The funniest thing is that Kyo literally did this when Zaion got doxxed.

>> No.66706655

>>66706191
Given the fact that Zaion is a compulsive liar she surely didn't tell the manager that her private account would be her PL's ambassador account.

>> No.66706973

>>66706655
Lmao sis cut the bullshit
There's no such thing as an ambassador account with extra privileges

>> No.66707099
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66707099

Pomu is my moral compass and to this day she still follows Zaion's twitter account, so I think she is ok

>> No.66707193

>>66706331
Breaking rules only matters or counts if management doesn't like you.

>> No.66707196

>>66705389
Doesn't she want to still be friends with the people there

>> No.66707197

>>66706331
It really just boiled down to the fact that Zaion didn’t become quick friends with the manager. Because NijiEN has always been extremely arbitrary on what rules they enforce and when.

>>66706149
Pomu is still loved, with the only hate probably coming from Luxiem-era fags that will see her joining Vshojo as a “betrayal”. Selen is still widely loved, but it wouldn’t be shocking if there’s a fair amount of dragoons that believe Nijisanji’s lies. There’s already brown nosers like Uncle Bill who tried to defend Millie during the whole cover removal debacle.

>> No.66707722

>>66705389
Gura deflection thread

>> No.66708053

>>66706331
try posting the Enna rape joke clip with actual audio so i can share it whenever someone brings up Zaion's rape joke.

>> No.66708144

>>66707722
No one gives a shit about Gura anymore. Until she's streaming regularly fuck off Holo Fag

>> No.66708332

>>66708053
Just download it off the soundpost.

>> No.66708368

>>66708332
I did there's no sound.

>> No.66708455

>>66705389
No, because that's not enough. Her termination is just a part of deeper problems with the branch and those would need to be adressed to "turn things around". Not that NijiEN will do either.

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>>66708368
Lurk 3000 more years before posting

>> No.66708676

>>66707099
Like, sayu or zaion?

>> No.66709009

>>66705389
That wouldn't do shit at this point.

>>66705731
This one is a real chance for them to repair their reputation but it's not gonna happen.
If anything they will make Selen kneel and apologize instead.

>> No.66709068

>>66705389
>She was right
She left though?

>> No.66709268

>>66709068
ebin

>> No.66710220

>>66705389
NijiEN is dying a death of a thousand cuts. Slapping a bandaid over one infected wound won't turn things around at this point.

>> No.66710329

>>66706540
Why bother doing that? NijiEN management will already have that prepared for their announcement.

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>>66706540
Why did she do it bros?

>> No.66710542

>>66710329
You think nijimanagment is that competent?

>> No.66712862

>>66705389
Short answer, No.
Long answer, for some viewers, especially ones of girls impacted or departed already, the damage is already done and baked in and nothing can undo it. For those that can still be persuaded to change their minds it would probably take a full cleaning of house of NijiEN management and full on naked dogeza on twitter. I don't think AnyColor is willing to do a tenth of that but would rather continue burning bridges and milk what dimes are left in the branch before its collapsed and forgotten into the main one just like ID before it.

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>>66706331
Yes other talents did fuck up too during their career. You posted that long ass list and Zaion did all of that shit all by herself in a couple of weeks. Good job.

>> No.66714251

>>66712954
except most of them were lies or conflations of what she did. Not to mention they're things that livers have done since and before she came along. It was simply Niji management not wanting to do their fucking jobs properly and would rather get rid of her than actually being useful.

>> No.66714516

Funny how the rape jokes get ignored

>> No.66714620

>>66714516
I mean not much to get angry about https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0tkQAkTSREM

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>>66714251
>conflations of what she did.
Just keep lying to yourself. Maybe Zaion will spread her thighs for you someday.

>> No.66715568

>>66706331
>I love a vunerable woman... I can say that, because I'm a woman
vs
>No wonder she got...
>I feel like I would be more likely to get raped in here
Yeah sorry, you can't compare Enna's comment to that. It can be interpreted in multiple ways while Zaion straight up said the R word. She was fucking crazy. Someone in hololive would get terminated over this too.

>>66714620
If it was that alone then maybe, but then: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0tkQAkTSREM

>> No.66715656

>>66715568
>straight up said the R word
ok sister

>> No.66716131

>>66715568
Posted wrong vid: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LwftoO7-1lo
This is the part that Zaionists never mention

>> No.66716196

>>66705389
at least I'd stop anti-ing them. thats all i asked for from the begining.

>> No.66717362

>>66715450
my brother in christ this is a joke and was from a no name brand barely anybody outside a couple states in the US knows about comapared to vox who straight up stated they were sponsored by raid as a joke.

You seriously can't be using this screenshot as a "gotcha" this was literally the screenshot used to take the piss out of Niji management for months on end you fucking mongoloid.

>> No.66717460

>>66715568
>"it's okay to joke about rape aslong as you don't say rape"

jesus christ you guys are hysterically retarded it's not even funny anymore.

>> No.66718028

>>66714516
Meanwhile, there's two guys doing borderline rape ASMR.

>> No.66718375

>>66710542
Why not? They did it for Zaion.

>> No.66718507

>>66717362
>comapared to vox who straight up stated they were sponsored by raid as a joke.
Look at that long ass list that >>66706331 posted. If you do one thing it might be considered a nothingburger, but if you manage to complete that long ass list in a couple of weeks, you might be doing it wrong. So even if claiming to be sponsored by Raid Shadow Legends or Dee's Nuts (which I consider to be equally bad and unfunny), you might need to consider that whole list, that was completed in a short period of time.

>> No.66718994

>>66718375
Nah, they didn't have it ready to go. Needing to prepare the document was part of why there was the weeks of delay between the decision being made and the actual announcement.
Unless you mean to suggest that actually learned something other than new ways to abuse their livers.

>> No.66719002

>>66718507
except most of them were false and conflated like I mentioned. Like the "claiming to being in contact with Nijisanji upper management" or whatever was a huge pile of shit, when in reality she was just talking to her previous manager.

There's also the "liking anti-nijisanji posts on twitter" which not only are people currently still employed by Nijisanji (Kyo) known for doing but she liked those posts AFTER her contract had been terminated making them null and void. It's like arresting a person for a crime that they did years before the crime was actually against the law.

The Deez Nuts joke was a joke to anyone with a working pair of fucking eyes, the Raid Shadow legends joke while still a joke is a game known worldwide to multiple countries and not just a couple of states in the US.

>> No.66720429

>>66706331
>Comments that can be considered offensive to the rights holder of a game during a stream
>If the rights holder were such pussies then they should shut the fuck up and delete their game.
She claimed this was because she said some budget games UI wasn't that good because she was struggling it. That one was quite literally making shit up to make it seem she was worse than she was.
Quite a few of these "issues" were exaggerated to make her out to be more of a criminal than she was. Especially when what she did was incredibly tame compared to most of the EN branch in general. I think part of the issue was it all happening too close to debut, if she acted like this 3~4 months later after she'd started earning them money they'd have ignored it.

Honestly the Genshin confusion was the mess what probably caused everything.
Though by that point Genshin had already lost interest for 90% of people and wasn't a huge number draw anymore. Her "PL" account stream got way better views than her "fresh" account one so she did make the right call using that when she could. Management was too retarded though.

>> No.66723040

>>66705389
What a cute mouth.

>> No.66725474

>>66720429
The list definitely felt like there was a single incident that they decided to fire her over, but weren't confident in it so they padded out the list with everything they could stretch to claim. It's just too much fucking nothing to be anything but that.

>> No.66725907

>>66705389
naked dogeza from Finana and Kotoka we'll except nothing less

>> No.66726045

>>66705389
After watching some Sayu recently I am retroactively furious they did this to her. The girl did not deserve all that bullshit and the backstabbing. Fuck that black corpo, I won't be satisfied until NiniEN completely implodes.

>> No.66728597

>>66705553
my wife

>> No.66731132

>>66726045
Is this a joke? She is the most milquetoast streamer on the face of the earth. Who cares.

>> No.66732912

>>66731132
You don't get it. She even has thighs.

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>>66705389

>> No.66737231

>>66705389
A public apology to her would be useless at this point. What they really need to do is make an apology to their fans and the general public and acknowledge some of the problems at Nijisanji EN and promise this isn't going to happen again.

They would then need to follow this up with concrete action and get professional managers into EN and dedicate the resources necessary to get the branch to something resembling functionality. And they'd have to crack down on the troublemakers too who attack their own colleagues on social media.

None of this is going to happen. Instead they're going to continue to have scandal after scandal while bleeding top talent, leaving only bottom feeders and 2views at the company who are only there because they have no place else to go. If something was going to be done, the current catastrophes with Selen and Pomu wouldn't be happening.

>> No.66738599

>>66705389
It would have to be one of multiple things they do, including firing the entire management team and 90% of the talent pool

>> No.66742347

>>66705389
whoa

>> No.66743565

>>66706448
>Sure, as long as it's not the one from your PL
retard who was not there inventing shitty rrats in his head canon. go suck cocks faggottini

>> No.66744431

>>66715568
I always said the cancel culture is getting out of control
What, women can't make rape jokes about their OWN gender?
If it was a man saying it, I would understand, but Zaion is not a male.

>> No.66744498

>>66737231
It's way too late for apologies. Niji delenda est.

>> No.66746722

Nijifags will apologize to her in the end once their branch is deleted and they're merged wit hJP

>> No.66747410

>>66746722
We don't need or want their apologies. They can collectively go fuck themselves

>> No.66748465

>>66706331
Based Ennaschizo you and bird wife posters were the only posters I liked when I was a /nijien/ regular.

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>>66706331

>> No.66750273

>>66749440
KEK

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