/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

>>66581344
CURRENT PROMPTS

>Clothing
What does the average Joe wear daily? Any formal dress impacted by tradition/culture? Fashion being split by class or regional differences? Climate or other fantastical wackery making certain attire a necessity? Paint us a clearer picture of who you'll see walking through the streets!
>Food
What crops do your people grow for consumption? What about the food you import, and from where? Do you have unique delicacies? What are the common snacks or meals for the working class, or the rich and powerful? Any food reserved for ritual purposes? How about etiquette when eating? Any special practices during mealtime?
>Entertainment
What kinds of entertainment is popular for your people? How important are they seen as part of life? Do different class people have sufficiently different tastes? How much do the chuuba gods play a role in these entertainments?
>Religion
What religious rituals does your nation have to worship its deities? What's the religious structure look like? What's the official stance on other faiths?
>Alcohol and Drink
what do your people drink and what's is it made from? what sort of culture is there around drinking in your split?
>Development
What's your nation's current goals now. What are you trying to aim for your development? Would said development make your people happy?

>>66581344
>Gura-on-Watson
h-hot...

>discussions are back
We so back!

>i am back
We so back!

>We so back
We so back!

>back
We so back!

>Had to bake due to hitting bumplimit
We so back!
Are we doing the shizo thing in the same/similar way as last time?

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We so back!

>>66581344
That Prime Minister is sinister I'm telling you. Who'd trust her. That said goddamn that's a good looking map!

Is the anon hosting the map site still around?

Proposal on maps in-lore: every country has their own version of it.

>>66581865
Borders are a pretty arbitrary thing, really.

I think this time we should try to not fill out the map with nations, and allow for plenty of land to be wilderness.
That way we'll have plenty of space for new threads, and won't have to put nations in wastelands, which basically no one wants.

>>66582203
This, also more border conflicts and less assuming every inch of someone's territory is actually settled and use

>Page 8
It's joever

>>66583024
we had to be back for it to be really over...

>>66582203
Then convince anons not to claim subcontinent sized swaths of land.

>>66583310
>Chumbuds claiming the entire ocean

>>66583024
Look, I'm cooking up some ideas in the background for /mythread/ but there's a lot that's determined by locale and available resources

>>66583310
I think everyone acknowledges that current claims are highly tentative, hopefully...

>>66581344
Rate this HoI campaign

>>66584218
>spams paratroopers

>>66583310
>>66583541
the only ones that good a really big chunk atm is /uuu/, just annex some of their forests

>>66584218
>Amphibious assault on Atlantis
foolish

>>66584320
Not again. some things always happen every timeline

>>66584324
The kettle is boiling. One encirclement and it's over for Atlantis

>>66584957
Amelia the 'fps gamer' vs the /tactical/ girls

>>66583541
Oh your innocence is so precious

>>66576589
latina?

>>66575497
how do we feel about making the continents a bit smaller?

>>66581722
I am! For now I’ve just been waiting to see how the first wave of claims shakes out, but once the borders are more finalized I can drop the new map in, probably with an added legacy mode so people can still view the old map.

>>66587301
Anon... the azgaar map files doko...

>>66587521
That’s a different anon I’m afraid…

>>66587521
I think stitching two of the maps together breaks the azgaar map compatibility anyway.

>>66587815
Oh, pardon me then.
>>66588086
There's a way to import any image file and convert it into an elevation map, I've already done that with pic related, but it's not fully accurate, so I need the originals.

uuuuuu i miss the femanons uuuuu

>>66588634
none of that now

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>>66590201
Aren't you a zombie

>>66592252
Not since the retcon.

>>66590201
You're not needed or wanted anymore

>>66590201
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>>66587521
Gomen Gomen, got home ate chicken and fell asleep, gimme a bit to get out of bed

Besides death by being drowned in the ocean, dying of starvation and from the natural death rate being increased through divine intervention has been added. The latter might be how death by disease is done. Feels kinda bad to see the whole population wink out like that, that last pixel really stuck around.

(Partially) Subterranean Civilizations, yay or nay? Whether I go the mountain range or the archipelago route I was considering /gem/ being mostly underground with some settlements (in valleys or on islands) for trade and some supplementary agriculture (on top of stuff like mushroom farms or something like that beneath the surface). Does this sound too fantasy-esque?

>>66593366
I think that sounds really fun, really not all that outlandish at all. Especially for /gem/, being a nation of tunnel-dwellers seems like the most natural thing in the world.

>>66593107
Genocide sim ikz!!!

>>66586762
I'd at least be down to see a proof of concept. Anything you would add to fill in the gaps, or more just making more space for ocean?

>>66593598
The more I work on this and the more it seems like simulating the world is making a death simulator rather than a life simulator. There's so many ways to die, but only one way to be born...

>>66593366
Subterranean mountain Civ would be great, Island civs are a dime a dozen.

>>66593631
I think enlarging the ocean to the left and right would help give us a bit more of a Pacific analog, since atm it's kind of squeezed between the two continents, and also give more space to separate the Northern island from the largest landmass as in this >>66575497 without pushing it into the polar circle. I can make an attempt, just gotta find the version of the map without the texture on the ocean.

I cant believe WARanon is still screaming WAR while sitting in his rocking chair. Poor old man must think he can still fight.

>>66593949
Maybe, but the pebbles crave a swim every now and again. I'll look around the planet some more for a range with a nearby natural harbour...

>>66593990
Made quick edit to simplify the ocean texture, does that help?

>>66587521
Knock yourself out
https://files.catbox.moe/qowvua.map
https://files.catbox.moe/4ipzwo.map

>>66595213
Thank you anon

>>66594760
Dangerously comfy soundpost. The map does have those inland seas that are all squeezed against mountain ranges on the largest continent. They don't look like much on a .png, but those are huge, they'd probably have sizable harbors. Though it would make sense to want a connection to the world ocean, and there's the Moai polynesian influence you potentially wanna play with.

>>66595194
Oh, it does, thanks anon.

>>66595259
Left
>Civilization almost exclusively underground, essentially just one surface colony/city and surrounding lands that serves as the face outwards to the rest of the world. Along the mountainous borders, Moai statues dot the rocky surface to signify the borders claimed by /gem/, believed to guard the homeland.
Right
>A mix of sorta mountainous islands, mountains, and some regular mainland surface. Moai statues would be more like irl, closer to the shores and often (I think?) facing towards the ocean.
In either case, the Moai statues would also be scattered around the rest of the landscape. They'd also serve as standing coffins like was discussed some months ago >>55684201

>>66597455
I'm dumb and posted the wrong image. Man I need to sort my stuff.
Also not sure about the size of the claim, but they're tentative anyway.

>>66597556
You know what would be based? If your surface borders were picrel

>>66597556
Personally I think right looks better and gives you more flexibility.

/vnug/anon, don't want to pressure you, but have you maybe decided on your placement already? I want to see how much, if any, border we would share for an idea I had

>>66595194
>>66595304
Quick edit. Also played with the south Pole island a bit. This makes the large continent a bit larger than eurasia. Also kept /uuu/ centered on the equator. This would put the north of the North continent about where Alaska/Siberia is in latitude, and the southernmost parts of the South-West continent a few degrees lower than Patagonia. Also makes the larger ocean about 3/4 the size of the Pacific. Version with Earth and lat/lon lines for comparison: https://files.catbox.moe/7uqpwn.png
>>66597455
Both sound fun! Did you end up checking out HnK kek.

>>66598708
That *would* be incredibly funny, but I fear it might lead to funky stuff in the future in terms of territory disputes. Also, taking the alternative on the right as an example, pic rel is essentially all the settled land on the surface I think
>>66598708
You know, it kinda slipped my mind. I blame struggling to keep up with as many of Biboo's streams as I can

>>66599029
>I blame struggling to keep up with as many of Biboo's streams as I can
I mean, that's basically a full time job.

>>66599802
Tell me about it

>>66574292
No, palkyries don’t have many natural defense mechanisms. Back when I first started designing them I tried to make them mostly resemble humans though that might change in this setting even if I’m a bit attached to my creation. I did give them fermentation sacs which some of them have learned to weaponize them by spitting poison or flammable liquid! Other than that they mostly rely on their quiet movement, tail and agility to survive

>>66593366
Fellow cave dwelling friend!

>>66598103
I was asking others if they have a preference but I guess we’ll pick B as the location to be closer with our friends in /VRe/! I haven’t decided on the exact borders but I hope to have coast(s), border with /VRe/ and also some mountaintop ice caps! I kinda like the valley east of /VRe/ that’s sandwiched between two tall mountain ranges

>>66584218
I don't mind attacking the other Myth countries given I don't recognize their sovereignity, but let's not attack the Most Serene Republic of Hope pls. They good frends

>>66601273
Humu, I was just thinking of maybe allocating an area that we would share somewhat, if the biomes permit. I do enjoy the idea of having let's say a dense jungle on our border that neither of our people are quite sure where the exact border is, and the tribes that reside in the area don't care either way and there's a unique regional culture that's a mix of both of ours.
Also talking wiht my own thread, hopefully I can bring in some more people to get this ball rolling

>>66601714
We’re in the tropics near the sea so I think we should be able to have jungles there! If we’re going with a more medieval tech level the borders are gonna be fuzzy anyway
More friends are always better! I don’t think /vnug/ the thread’s interested in this thread though

>>66602082
Humu humu, I mainly just wanted an area that we can both build together, the less we stay in our own bubbles the better!

>>66602382
It should work based on what >>66574292 said! Even if it doesn’t there’s always magic! Also I think when we start adding rivers to the map we should have a big river that connects us!

>>66601598
Stay away from the Underworld.

>>66586762
>>66588201
>>66595194
>>66598708
Can i complain about how dumb the topography of this map if we’re to consider how mountains are made?

>>66602784
Sure, I won't take it personal, I didn't write Azgaar's basic-ass planet generator that doesn't account for tectonics. Ideally you also have ideas to improve it?

>>66601273
Heya! Do your dog-like(?) people dwell in caves for protection, or to get natural resources? Has cave dwelling affected the palkyries' ability to handle harsh sunlight?

>>66602730
>a big river that connects us!
Oh absolutely!
>>66602784
Sure, I will take it personally, a lot of love and effort went into me generating that so you'll be bullying what is essentially my child.

>>66584218
how the hell did the anon make this?

>>66603513
I don't think that was an anon, it was some other talented fan.

>>66576845
sorry, i went to sleep after a while. truly unexplainable magic has to be indescribable. harry potter has a soft magic system, but it can be explained because it can be described, even if the explanation is as basic as "emotions and the will of the magic itself makes things work". hard magic systems are systems with a clear explanation, see asimov's definition for hard science, "get the details right and then make changes". our current setting makes both perfectly compatible because even if the soft magic system has an explanation, nobody can really know it without divining how the ai works. your idea of miracles granted by the chuubas is one possible option that exists within our current system that doesn't contradict or invalidate any other kind of magic, hard or soft, and more importantly doesn't break the continuity of the world building setting which everyone in this thread lived in. if the conception of physics changed between each story we tell, that would represent a poor understanding of world building. ultimately, i always believed hard systems were objectively superior to their soft counterparts in terms of writing quality, even seemingly soft magic systems could be explained by hidden variables, and having an entire magic system to explore adds an entirely new dimension of the world to build, you achieve soft magic systems by disregarding all of that and saying "because the story demands it" which isn't world building in my opinion. based on the way we have it right now, the ideas are completely compatible. the only way you could word it for them to not be compatible would be if the idea of an explanation at all to how magic works in this setting was something you didn't like, hence anons question here: >>66577288. you'd have to get rid of any pretense that the magic can be explainable, at which point people are incentivized against exploring how magic works because there is no way to make it fit in the world's setting consistently. right now, even random magic that never follows any clearly definable path has an explanation that makes sense in the same world as everyone else. any effect you could ever want for yourself, and even the mystery behind how it works specifically, is preserved. i don't think you understand how absurd things would have to be to not fit within the current model when even ideas normally viewed as the height of absurdity can be explained. if you have a magic system that follows rules that can be described at all, that magic system can be explained. you couldn't try to subvert it, anything you can possibly think of could be explained as part of the black box that determines how things work in the background. what i don't get is why you wouldn't want something like this, but seeing as how i haven't been here for a while, and that this thread wasn't always so clearly the "worldbuilding" general, i guess the culture has changed this radically in the time i've been away. i forgot to mention it, but my side of the excuse i mentioned at the end of that long comment was multifaceted. whether or not you take my suggestion, you give me an excuse to leave the thread. either you take it, and it becomes exponentially harder to destroy my contributions and the thing that made me interested in the setting for so long, thus i don't need to worry about it being killed off, or you guys don't take my suggestion and decide to destroy it, in which case i don't need to make excuses for why i still care about this thread. nothing would be here for me anymore that my thread couldn't handle for me. all i would bring is misunderstandings and one-sided drama that i always end up getting roped into. clearly i can't stay, i just wanted to see if i couldn't convince people still here to keep up the legacy me and the other chuubanite autists made. it doesn't look like anyone has any questions about the idea itself, just over whether or not the idea being that fleshed out is worth anything, so i'll leave this thread alone now. as i said yesterday, you guys know where to find me if you have any further questions. bye.

>>66602987
They’re possum people so they’re more like rats! Though their behaviors probably resemble dogs more than cats which are the most common animal people in anime
I think it’s both although the former’s more significant and is likely the original reason! I imagine that since we’re in the tropics the temperature difference between day and night is like… day and night, the first palkyries lived in the caves since the environment’s more stable. They’ll start mining deeper once they have to expand living space and find more resources which I think goes well for their craftsmanship culture!
I gave space /vnug/ palkyries sensitivity to sunlight (due to their volatile sun) but I don’t know if I should give them that in this world as well. They might be able to grow fungus and other stuff in the caves but I feel they still need normal farmland to feed themselves

Hmm, even when I use the Image converter with the maximum 100k points it still fucks up small islands and lakes. Oh well, at least I can use it for general ideas of where stuff could go, like with rivers.

>>66601273
Im fine with that. B it is.

the duality of me and paragraphs.

>>66601273
>>66604798
Roughly what area are you guys referring to, something like this?

>>66598708
Does that mean this world doesn’t have many very cold places like Siberia?

>>66605224
Something like that works! I don’t know how large it actually is but I think it covers the altitude range I want!

>>66607095
There's always the disclaimer that we can plausibly shift average temperature a couple degrees up or down with the right ice age timing. All else being equal with IRL Earth, there would be less land that is siberia-cold in this proposal, since Russia and Canada are huge but our eurasia is lined up with the equator. I think those blue bits in picrel would be about alaska/siberia tier in this scenario.
also holy shit mori saved san francisco damn

Other settings are still welcome to be discussed here, right?

t. BFA anon

>>66610247
Sure, though the main worldbuilding project is the focus.

>>66602910
>>66602988
Here's my opinion. Personally i'd just lower either of the mountain ranges or separate them enough to form a southern and northern barrier. Second there are too many glacier lake in this area, something like Great Lakes which is bunch of lakes connected to each other shouldn't be that separated. Third for a worldmap, the coastline shouldn't be this jagged atleast not on every coastline for example, northern coast like those of the british isles, norway, and canada have jagged coastline because ice age was a bitch so erosion should be considered. Thanks for coming to my ted talk https://files.catbox.moe/hud8x1.gif

>>66613699
Anon... Your catbox link...
Desu I don't disagree and had the same thought about the coastlines and glacier lakes, but I don't know how annoying it would be to tune the generation to not have those problems, and the alternative is drawing your own damn world elevation map which is a lot of work.
If I took a stab at it I don't think those lakes are analogous to the Great Lakes though, they're way bigger than that. I would guess they're more like the late stages of the Western Interior Seaway (https://deeptimemaps.com/map-lists-thumbnails/western-interior-seaway/attachment/western-interior-seaway-03-wiscretmaa1/)) and will end up drying out over geological timescales as orogeny continues to raise that continent.

>>66611019
Glad to hear that.
My fully-implemented cast is ever expanding, with recent additions including Amelia, Polka, Luna, Astel, all of Tempus HQ and Reine.

>>66610247
Fire emblem anon?

>>66616549
Yep, in the flesh.

>>66602987
Do you have any particular ideas for the appearance of the pebbles?

>>66614279
Catbox hate. Yeah i'm just throwing in my two cents anyway. i doubt we have any drawfags left
> I don't think those lakes are analogous to the Great Lakes
Yeah you're right after seeing this map >>66607932 one of the lake is almost as big caspian sea

CLEAR

The land of my FE mod!

>>66624592
CLEAR!(2)

any news from /ehe~/ writer? thinking of rebooting/rewriting the lore if he doesnt mind

Bumping with a discovery in Shuffle Medley:
All of Gamers were called in and had straight swaps. Furthermore, they were in the same planet.
Marine, Kobo, Gura all occupy another planet, a watery one this time. Marine and Gura get extra points for getting another aquatic-themed song/costume. The one outlier here tho is Ayame.

Kanata, Nene, Laplus all get a planet/moon to themselves.

>>66603513
Painstakingly emphasize on the pain

>>66629844
All of Gen 2 are sealed in cards, which explains why only Ayame showed up. She's not on her correct planet because her gen is scattered between multiple planets. According to her lore, she's the student council president at the Underworld school that Choco is nurse at, so she should've been on the same planet as Kanata.

>>66632861
The cards:
Choco's left leg
Shion's left arm
Aqua's right arm
Subaru's right leg

They also made sure AquShio are both arms

>>66613699
>>66614279
>>66621553
I'm only fixing that if I get a pretty please with a cherry on top and a naked dogeza

>>66632861
Same anon, even then, Ayame nor Lui are ever associated with Maritime themes. Props for the plane at the transition tho, dunno what's that tho...

>>66633234
So they're Exodia?

>>66637524
Yep, the term "HoloExodia" is being used on them at a growing rate.

>>66603611
we went over this in the past, learn to finish sentences and add some spacing so people actually can read and digest what you wrote, the best explanation is worthless if people lack the ability to properly read it

Too late i already ruined your baby

>>66638319
You're disgusting

>>66638319
I don't hate the idea, could give something neat reimported into the generator.

>>66638319
>Complaints about meditteranean
>Anon makes another one

>>66638319
we added canon rivers?

>>66639597
Fuck no, we make our own, this generator's rivers suck ass

>>66638319
I like that little Corsica-shaped island in there.

>>66627534
Even while we were active he was there pretty sporadically, I think you can freely start doing stuff. Can always just collab if he pops back up.

>>66638623
more mediterraneans is more fun

>>66641171
pretty sure he was just one of the many tulpas

>>66642850
that was the second one, we had an actual koboker for a little bit a couple months before that.

>>66642916
ohh right, the rain shaman one, forgot him, but he was gone ages ago and never seemed to show up again

>>66643076
Oh yeah for sure. But you know, picrel.

Bump before die

>>66631046
Where'd you get the symbols from?

lump de bump

oh no you dont

>>66638319
Man the littoral warfare in the sea would be pretty cool, some real Odyssean shit.

>>66624886
Holy shit you already have more detail than fates. fucking POG

>>66604689
Guess we'll have to use the stitched versions then? I guess it was heading that way with people making edits and stuff.

>>66651374
No final decision has been made, and all claims have been sorta preliminary due to that. We still haven't even seriously talked about if we should use one of these >>66595194 >>66598708 or go with the original stitch

>>66651864
That's true. How do you feel about those proposals?

>>66651374
I'm not sure desu. Even if people make edits I can always use the image converter to import it back to the Azgaar map generator to make use of its features. Pic related is one example.
I just don't know what is generally wanted right now. Some people probably want to make more edits to the map, and others might like it already as is.

>>66652231
Makes sense, I figure most people don't feel too strongly about that kind of geological minutiae. Well, if anyone is lurking do say whether you're ogey with any or all of the proposals. I made that bigger ocean one so that there's less polar distortion, so a map that implements that would be my personal preference. The wider sea between the north and big continents is neat, but I think the original map with the narrower gap is cool as well.

As the creator of the original stitch, for what it's worth, I'm for this >>66598708

>>66653901 me
Ah wait, that has the wider sea between the east continents. Eh, whatever, gives space for a few smaller islands dotted around the coast

boomp

>>66651979
I'm kinda split. Those proposals might make climates and currents easier to model, but on the other I think the narrow ocean allows for a ton of really interesting sorta-shallow-water naval warfare
>>66652231
oh wow, I didn't know you could do that. Also that angle really puts into perspective just how fucking huge those mountains are on the large continent

>>66656921
There's a height scale slider that you can adjust on the 3d plane mode. In reality, the highest peaks of those mountain ranges reach about 6.7km high.

>>66656921
That's fair. Here's a narrower ocean version of the "bigger ocean" map, since I could see us going either way in that regard.
>>66657581
something something the Earth is actually smoother than a billiard ball at scale.

>>66657581
Oh, that's not as high as I thought to be honest. Wonder how the topography as a whole matches against this
>>66658495
I kinda dig it! Though I'm interested to hear arguments against it.

>>66652231
>image converter to import it back to the Azgaar map generator to make use of its features.
Mhm, yea, don't. unless you're gonna look over every cell, it's not worth it. Picrel is an import of >>66658495

>>66659993
hey, thats me!

>>66660354
That is you! And that's also me, losing a shitton of seaside in favour of a lake and a few dozen of kilometers of direct border with you!

>>66660466
Lakeside real estate is probably more valuable than oceanic coastline, fresh water is good.
>>66658801
I've got the editor open so feel free to throw suggestions.
>>66660354
it's sapling!

>>66649132
Elmao
Benefits I guess of my world having more than 2 nations lol.
The nations have their majority population: Polaria/Blancopolis with humans, Savan with kemos/insect anthros, Nero Eterna with hell creatures, Diarnuit with the dnd humanoids divided into dwarves and elves, similar creations taking either side depending on who are they more similar with. Stadt Des Feuers with dragons and phoenixes, Cita Azur where ship people and water anthros live, and finally, Anakondia with their snake women.

>>66660744
hello!

huppup

>>66666634
Too fast crabman

>>66667092
It's fine, it'll grow back.

gonna have to resist the urge to not make sea-saplings look like picrel

>>66668954
Why resist?

>>66668954
Why resist? Especially if they're on the seaweed-y or coral-y side, that could be cool. Now that I think about it, coral-people is kind of a really underused angle, can't really think of instances of that...

>>66669108
>>66669140
whyresistmind, woa...

>>66657581
Can we have a heightmap? I kinda wanna know how tall my land is

>>66669451
You actually have a plateau, rises from around 500f to over 2kf and then very steep inclines up to 4-5k and a possible peak of 7.8k, just from my memory of your border.

>>66669451
If you want detailed numbers on each cell, I posted the map files I think in the last thread, so just import that in the https://azgaar.github.io/Fantasy-Map-Generator/ and hover over each of them.

>>66669865
>>66670143
Thanks! I checked the map and I think the highest point is around 13k. We have a bit of glacier on the border but part of me wants more of them. I don’t know if I should claim more land though

>>66671582
Oh right, you took the entire upper part as well, forgot about that. Well, considering everyone else is already scrapping for as big a piece of pie they can get, more land couldn't hurt.

>>66669108
>>66669140
Idk, they seem a tad tacky at this point
Not sure mer-people are much better though

>>66672601
I don’t really wanna contribute to the worldbuilding equivalent of a rat race so I try not to be too much bigger than /VRe/ and other potential neighbors I might have. Maybe I can drop the northern land in exchange of extending further south/east? Then again I don’t really need glaciers apart from my weird brain worm

>>66672752
I mean one of my species will be literal tiger people, picrel, so idk about tacky

>>66673489
*cough*I can adjust the map for you later anyway *cough*
And sprinkle some localized magic in the mix, and you can have glaciers. Any chuubas related to winter or snow in V&U?

>>66673489
Glaciers have a lot of potential for fun stuff, so nothing wrong with wanting some, but yeah whether you wanna enlarge your thing or swap some land around it up to you, it's fine either way as far as I'm concerned.
Also, damn that's a neat figure, continental is closer to the likes of the deserts than I thought.

Trying to refine the population growth simulation, set things up to be able to export population data so I can know what's actually going on. Looks like my current equations lead to populations massively overshooting their point of equilibrium, eating all the food available, followed by a population collapse as most of the people starve to death. Then, the cycle repeats once the food supply recovers from the famine kek. Seems plausible, but probably shouldn't be the default behaviour.

>>66674254
Truth be told no, I don’t think many of them even like cold weather that much (Kokone lives in the colder part of Canada while DK and Misma live in Scandinavia)

>>66674375
I got it from the site linked in the old climate rentry! For continental I think it’s because the winter’s too harsh compared to the subtropics and oceanic

>>66645402
https://spatialillusions.com

>>66674975
Valkyries are sorta intrinsically nordic I think.

>>66674899
Interesting simulation! Of course there are always more factors to take into account like disease and poor harvests, but one thing worth considering at least is that when there is a lot more people than there is food in the land to sustain them there is a tendency for large emigration as well as invasion attempts of foreign (and ideally more fertile) land

>>66674975
Well then! I guess I'll just have to let you borrow the power of the blue eyes white gecko to get some snow over there. Don't ask me how it relates, it just does.

>>66677486
That's a good point, from what I'm seeing humans don't really do the "long-term planning of population growth rate for sustainability" thing outside of circumstances enforced by some absolute authority, and population centers clearly don't go through continuous cycles of massive starvation death and recovery when there is a point of equilibrium. Modeling some people simply moving out of the region into one with more resources when the food supply starts decreasing would probably prevent that huge spike downward.

>>66638319
>an island

>>66678740
jews in every timeline...

>>66678740
gonna be hard to make tunnels there

So I’m thinking of something like this. Blue lines are where I think rivers would logically be at and the northern one would make for a nice border! I also added a river connecting /vnug/ and /VRe/ as mentioned before. I don’t know if I should shrink that part of the claim so that /VRe/ can have other land neighbors

>>66680603
/uuu/ I was actually thinking about a river more along these bottom squiggles leading into that basin
Thats kinda why I initially drew the border there, was thinking a river would make a nice natural border for us

>>66681077
I thought you were planning to move elsewhere?
We can have a river there too as border! I can give it a try but I feel I would put the river a bit further north so that it sits near the center of the valley there

>>66681284
Did someone say we were moving?
I'm pretty set as to where /uuu/ is on this map tbdesu
That's just where I was imagining the river to be, but Im not hard set on it, that whole valley/basin at the foot of those mountains seems like it could be a good riverbed, doesn't really matter where they fall I guess

>>66681531
I guess I misread that! More neighbor is always better!
This is what I’m thinking about! I tried to stretch the river as long as possible but I don’t think it can make up the entire border since the last part of the shared border is at a lower elevation

>>66681284
>>66681531
Just draw a nice river and shape the border around it after, not like it matters much which comes first, but I know for sure I prefer nice winding rivers

>>66681661
Thats fine
>>66681712
Yeah, thats what I was planning when I drew the first rough border, I just tried to follow some valley beneath the mountain range where some rivers might go
Its certainly more true to the nature of /uuu/ to let natural landmarks decide our borders

>>66681712
Winding rivers are nice! I think they’re more common in the lowlands though. They also make funny-looking lakes

>>66681867
>>66682221
Well since we seem to be settled I'll see if I can get us some more detailed maps today, if I'm free. Been a while since I've done hydrology.

>>66682520
Looking forward to your rivers anon

Pan pan. Am I back? Is /vtwbg/ back?

>>66684414
is real? If so, damn I didn't expect that, happy to see you anon. Did you find another general during our hiatus?

>>66657581
those elevations will make every germs happy

>>66684596
...No... I've been taking care of a sick and depressed elderly mom with heart problems. I stopped watching vTubers regularly. As in I watch them only once every quarter year if they're playing a game I'm interested in. Nice to see this board hasn't changed much. I saw saplings lore building and stopped to say hi. Don't think I'll go back to a full project though.

>>66685202
Oh, well nice to see you regardless. Hope things gets better for you.

>>66686116
I have some reading to do. I'm not taking questions or requests for /nasa/ anymore. I'm pretty sure its Sana now, which is a new nation and thread I'm not apart of. Have a bump before I sleep.

>>66685202
>Nice to see this board hasn't changed much.
Uhhh about that... Only recently things got better
Then the Selen-Pomu thing happened

>>66688294
Pomu and Selen fans have my condolences.

>>66684963
Get on my back Kiara, I'll carry your fat ass.

So with the NePoLaBo uh do we have any territory now or is this just an EN thing?

>>66689987
Nah every general is welcome, get in here.

>>66689987
Territory isn't pre-partitioned, you can look at the map and pick a spot that tickles your fancy.

>>66688294
Nah, not nice.
Because the same petty mfs still complain about the same inane shit

>>66688294
Did... did they get better kek. Looking across the board it feels like 2023 has been continuous yabs.

>>66604986
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gri-SMx0GAI

The early bird gets the worm

>>66692910
Magic is real?

Crispy bump

>page 10

>>66695329
magic is a cowtool

>>66699077
Cow-a-what-now?

>>66699743
COWABUNGA

>>66699077

>>66701444
It certainly almost is for my FE x Cover cast elmao

Live.

and learn.

This thread shall rise again to the first page

>>66706650
This reminds me, gotta think on where the AI threads are going to be. Ideally all three should be bordering each other, with /swarm/ also bordering /lig/ and maybe Lia from Phase Connect, but that might require too many people being on the same page to pull off.

languages update to bide time during dead hours
https://files.catbox.moe/bfmhyx.pdf
https://files.catbox.moe/ld0xs2.pdf
changed a lot on wibspik, is more fleshed out

>>66581344
fascinating

>>66707625
I sorta have my own too. Every culture gets a different langauge.

Is there any reading I need to read that's not in the Vitubia Google doc?

>>66712753
You don't even really need to read that, we're doing a fresh start

>>66712814
Then I guess my old works are no longer history. Ah well. They were a failure of a mess anyway.

>>66713063
Cool. So who're you gonna write for now?

>>66713288
Everyone and nobody. I'm mostly here to research and support small stuff. I have no plans to head a nation since I have no oshi. My best stuff was crop analysis and the worst was /nasa/'s policy. So small things it is.

>>66713063
Ah, you didn't change much. They're still history, just for another world. But yeah, no reps to do for this run, fresh start. The only reps would be to check the previous couple threads for map info since we haven't really settled that yet.

>>66684963
it's okay Kiara get on my back

>>66692910
god I wish I was type 2, what a chad

>>66707625
brb gonna take a nice walk on the nearest snoboshi
>oshihen->sacrilege
perfect
I read a theory somewhere that brand new (mainly holo) threads tend to be a bit antagonistic towards outsiders (and then usually mellow out with time) because a solid fraction of them have just oshihen'd and might see a previous oshi a bit like an ex... Not sure how factual that is, but it's an interesting thought.

>>66715132
Unless /nasa/ or Sana exists in the new world nothing I wrote for it is relevant. Unless you still want bread dogs around.

Beyond the standard fantasy-esque mushroom farms, what could possibly be farmed underground without access to sunlight?

>>66717856
A long time ago I wrote an idea with a Rosebud about sunstones. My idea for sunstones is that they absorb sunlight from the surface. Then they relay sunlight back down underground. I don't remember if it was done through mirror chambers or a network of crystals. Read about Rosestones in the archive.

If that's what you're not looking for then I have a few other ideas. Dwarves in fantasy hollowed out underground farms that have sun roofs on their farms. Dwarves mostly grew potatoes, carrots, grains, and mushrooms. For underground fauna there's cave fish, lizards, insects, and frogs. In the winters you can hunt hibernating animals like snakes, bats, and bears. I think you'll need some access to a little sunlight somewhere at some point. You can also eat roots that grow from the plants above.

>>66717856
I also a saw a video about how the underground is a surprisingly good place for pisciculture, since it's relatively easy to flood an underground cistern with water and get a place where you can grow fish without worrying about predators or external illnesses. You would need something to feed them though, probably feed grown some other way.

>>66717856
*sniiiiiif* you smell that? That's specbio, and a lot of it

You got any idea what you'd want, first off? we could go the route of mosses and algae, or even expand into strong deep root plants that produce various acids to dissolve rocks and obtain minerals they need that way. Bioluminescence would be a must ofc, so everything would probably stand on the base of some sort of bioluminescent microbes

>>66718951
Worms, insects, guano, and some molds would be easy fish food. Also there's can be some crustacean scavengers that can eat guano and mold that the fish can eat. I think there's cave krill and shrimp. Need to look into that.

>>66718624
>>66718951
>>66719066
I suppose having some sort of glowing stones would work, even if it has been done before. I probably should've mentioned I talking about /gem/. Been thinking of splitting up territory based on natural borders and available resources (each with an associated gemstone). [Dots signify larger settlements, red being surface and green subterranean.]

I didn't consider the possibility of fish farms underground. I figured that underground lakes would be still water and full of bacteria or contaminated in some other way.


As you can see the civilization isn't *entirely* underground, but I still want the majority to be. The surface would mostly be for international trade and part of the food production, I guess stuff like potatoes would still be decent for surface farms despite being near the equator thanks to the high altitude and maybe colder climate thanks to it?

>>66720509
You're thinking of ponds and resivoirs. Lakes have rivers and streams that fill and drain the lake. As long as you have running water that filters through silt and sand its clean enough to drink. If you don't then you can make a filter out of charcoal and cloth. If you can dry out tree roots then maybe you'll have firewood. Though you're better off lumbering them from the surface. If the region's volcanic then you can get heat from lava springs assuming you have a way of dealing with poison gas.

>>66720509
>I figured that underground lakes would be still water and full of bacteria or contaminated in some other way.
Just like there can be stillwater above ground, so it can be underground, sure. But, in order to get there it has to filter through sometimes dozens or even hundreds of meters of rock, so it's actually really pure. Same for underground rivers, and why spring water tastes fucking amazing compared to tap.
As long as you have enough sustenance for the fish, there is no reason they couldn't live underground, tho their eyes might become vestigial. You might not be looking at Tuna sizes, but we do have species of fish that are adapted for that habitat irl as well.

>>66717856
Rock farm(edible)

>>66721329
Imagine. Rock candy can be mined underground. It is made from trees infested with a symbiotic lychen that causes it to leak syrupy sap into drops on the roots as storage. The drops dry and harden overtime to become sugar crystal stalagmites and stalagtites. Assuming you don't get animals that eat the sugar stalagmites you can grind the crystals into dust and use them for calcium rich desserts.

>>66720969
>If the region's volcanic then you can get heat from lava springs assuming you have a way of dealing with poison gas.
I'm sure a civilization that has it at it's doorstep would find ways to develop some way to mitigate it, through strategically placed tunnels and rudimentary pipes or something. Worst case I had an idea of having the society having something resembling a caste society, classless "diggers" included to handle more dangerous hazards and just be expendable in general.
>>66721329
Clearly I haven't been thinking ambitiously enough in what's possible, though I hope that doesn't step too much on the Lunaitos' stuff

>>66717856
i remember the risuner was super autistic about trees that grew gemstones.

>>66722515
Imagine the resource war

>>66720509
I like that plan anon. Like others said, you can have lakes with running water just as well underwater. If you think about it you might be able to set things up to have a functioning underwater subterranean ecosystem so that fish populate it naturally and Pebbles can go do some normal fishing in some underground river.

>>66717856
>algae
>some kind of domesticated burrowing animal (maybe something like molerats, but selectively bred to be much fatter and bigger)
>huge aphid-like insects that parasite on giant tree roots and can be "milked" (like ants do it in real life)
>rock candy (might not be an actual mineral but some kind of super-slow coral-esque being)
>actual worms and insects (giant or normal-sized)

>>66720509
Oh also, ecosystems usually need some source of energy at the bottom of the pyramid. For most life, that's sunlight, which feeds plants, which feed herbivores, which feed carnivores. In a cavern, that source could glowing stones, or just magic energy appearing in some funky mosses, but you could also have the energy come from a geothermal source. That's what ecosystems next to hydrothermal vents do and that's why they're full of life even though they're usually at the bottom of the ocean in the barren abyss. Thought of it since you mentioned volcanism. Of course it can also be a combination of all of the above, or something else. Having everything feed on literal rock sugar is neat too, I vaguely recall something about Biboo's feet tasting sweet.

Hmmm, one thing I've just thought about is how graduations and the relationships held between threads that have previously existed would be incorporated. I'm not really concerned about things such as land or population but I'm curious as to the consensus towards whether or not a graduated general would have existed in Vtwobia.

>>66726673
My stance would basically be that if someone wants to write something about a graduated general, that's cool. And until that happens I guess they exist in a state of Schrodinger's General where they both never existed and existed until observed. Like, if someone wants to write about sonchou's general, I could see wanting to include lore about its history as Coco's general.

>>66727004
>>66726673
Depends on the chuuba. If they reincarnate then usually they become a new general. As long as the general persists even with a graduated chuuba it could have a history here. /nasa/ is gone but if we have Sana threads that replace /nasa/ then sure.

>>66726063
I really dig those ideas, gonna steal some of it for sure. for some reason you made me think of the kwama from morrowind, gonna look into them a bit
>>66726203
Yeah, never hurts to go for a mix, or perhaps have different parts of the mountain contain different solutions. Her rock-candy-like feet being delicious is a Pebble claim which fluster her, but I can't recall her outright denying it.

>>66724901
If /gem/ bordered the candy kingdom, there would absolutely be conflicts as both tried to claim it. For now idk it might be like a rivalry over which nation that produces the best wine.

>>66729148
It would make sense since Bijou was called EN Luna on debut

>>66721329
So like the meat mines in West of Loathing

>>66721329
A goron typed this post.

>>66730259
Ever heard of rock salt?

>>66729702
/gem/ is not /meat/ is what I would say, but her loveit cover awoke something in a lot of pebbles and there's the fact that biboo eluded to the red in her 'strawberry' milkshake she got with her castle hall background comes from a pebble that's misbehaved... Maybe I might add some blood sacrifice, as a treat.

>>66731270
Bijou is candy, bijou is rock, pebbles are rock, pebbles are for eating, it just makes sense really.

>>66731270
We really are the stealth /meat/ thread even after they rebranded

I have some ideas but I wanna ask if we’ve decided on a tech level yet

>>66733774
i think it was something like pre to mid-industrial, i assume steampunk or below in terms of technological development

>>66733774
Don't know or much care for the others, but I'm going with medieval fantasy

>>66731888
>pebbles are rock
oh yeah, that's also something I have to decide on, just how rocky the people are supposed to be. Outright lithoids, or more like short people that outsiders would describe as having "greyish, hard skin reminiscent of stone"

>>66734171 (me)
...Alright, I'm gonna have to sleep on a very silly idea I just had seeing this image when looking up lithoids

>>66717253
semi-regular sana threads are still a thing and she also gets posted in /choc/ every now so there is still space for sanalites and breaddogs

>>66734997
Anon please, blue board! You can't just show Saplings and pebbles having sex like that!

>>66736596
>sex
>saplings
Gimme

>>66735837
I have a bad rep with Sanalites because of old drama with /vtwbg/. I rather not restart that.

>>66733774
I've seen medieval and WW1 be suggested with equal amounts of confidence before, so the answer would be no I guess. If there has to be a proposal, I'd say maybe we go for a style of fantasy where there can be drastically different tech levels without too much problems? Like, in warhammer fantasy you've got your dwarves with tanks and your lizardmen who just ride bigger lizards, but it kinda just works out because regardless of the tech levels everyone seems to be satisfied with their current development level and direction.
If we go for that, I think /morig/ might be like, socially modern, architecturally and militarily gothic, scientifically medieval, with a lot of magic filling in some gaps in quality of life.
>>66734997
If you make the pebbles visually accurate similar to their mascot form I will kneel through the floor kek.

>>66737151
I like airships and magitek from Final Fantasy VI. But that's my opinion. Chuubanite can be buried and forgotten.

>>66737151
I was wondering because I think I’m going with something steampunk-y both because I like the aesthetics and because what kinda tech (and magic) we have matters a lot when it comes to living in unconventional places like underground

the bottom right of the world has this strip of land is this just the schizo wastelands or am i stupid

>>66737883
Having a lot of steamy pipes all over the places fits nicely with the underground, to keep things warmed up and get energy where it's needed, cool idea. Also the kind of tech to bore tunnels could use steam power.

>>66739415
Heating’s useful but once you go deep enough (I see someone mention it starts around 100 ft but I also see some metro stations at 400 ft deep still having a cozy temperature) it starts getting hot again. I don’t know if we can build a huge AC to vent the heat to surface and keep the deep underground inhabitable
There are also other things like air and water that needs pumping and I think those actually were how steam power started being used on a large scale

>>66740217
Have you looked into geothermal energy? It's like steam power except you use naturally heated volcanic rocks to boil water into steam.

>>66739415
Hmmm yeah

>>66740217
That's a cool map, looks like living under yellowstone isn't too comfy.

>>66745253
Yellowstone is an active super volcano.

>>66746550
yeah, still waiting for it to nuke half of america

An idea for my world:

Aruran runs a restaurant that does serve pizza, I probably could integrate the Pizza-ya gang as his staff. ReGloss exist in my world, Niji also, and the others too.

>>66738854
That was the mythical realm of /OG/. where the last Kizuna Ai and heavenly king fans were exiled

>>66746827
I say let's see what you have first. Find out your climate and see if you can source pizza ingredients locally.

>>66747215
Douzo! All humans live in Polaria. The ingredients come from Cita Azur, as Aru only takes the finest.
>>66624886

>>66747215
Brb making a pizza with potato dough, roach milk mozzarella and mango sauce.

>>66747446
Accurate to stream Aruran elmao

Both the roach and the fox exist, though in different parts of Savan.

>>66736596
>>66736938
None of that now.
Formal sanctions have to be established first.

>>66747735

So I played around with the map file a bit and I think I have a pretty decent picture of how /vnug/land will look like! It’s a bit ironic considering the old version of /vnug/ but I’ll frame it with seasons:
>“Summer”
This stretches from /VRe/ and /uuu/ border and covers most of the green regions (<1k ft) of /vnug/. It’ll be covered by some kind of tropical forest. It’s relatively small area-wise but most of /vnug/’s border (except the east) will be covered by it.
>“Spring”
This includes the yellow regions (1k~5k ft) which takes up about half of /vnug/’s area. The elevation’s still relatively low (<5k ft) so the temperature’s high enough for trees to grow. The lower temperature means most water in the air will condense and fall here in the form of rain and (more importantly) fog. It’s called cloud forest and I like the dreamy atmosphere it creates! It’s also the most habitable region of /vnug/ due to the comfy temperature and I imagine most above-ground cities will be here somewhere
>”Fall”
The tropical cloud forest stops at the tree line and gives way to mountain grassland with all kinda unusual grass and shrubs. Here the average temperature hovers just above freezing but the temperature varies greatly between day and night. I imagine this is the main region where people live underground so as to avoid said variation
>”Winter”
Glaciers and ice caps! I think it covers about 10% of /vnug/

>>66747947
The Fall area reminds me of ancestral steppe from Monster Hunter 4.

>>66747418
As long as you got grain dough, sauce, and cheese you can make a pizza.

>>66748288
Unfortunately, WAR happened, and the resto was razed to the ground. Aru's gals got scattered and furthermore, he is called in to active duty as a member of The Order, basically a fusion of Avengers and Hololive.

>>66748288
Something like that but more colorful! I think a lotta stuff I wrote about dreamwort would apply there as well

>>66749482
Can they rebuild after the war? I know after Sherman's march to the sea in the US civil war homesteads that were once food centers for everyone in the community got salted into dust where nothing can grow. These homesteads are still barren to this day if they weren't destroyed for public development. I'm pissed off that where I live the ground was salted with lime. Now only weeds can grow in the yard. We'd have to build above ground gardens and buy top soil if we want to grow anything.

>>66750314
Yup, they do. But later, the ReGloss gals get into the Order themselves.

>>66747880
You know our customs well...

>>66751001
>TFW have flash backs of giving Saplings chocomint ice cream sammies.

Hopefully with steamworld ice-cream sammies will be easier to make.

>>66751446
c...could it be?

>>66747947
I love a nice cloud forest, that should be perfect for Kokone shenanigans. Being near the equator the influence of actual seasons will be lessened, so that's a nice way to put it.

>>66751753
I'm only doing smaller things now. How's /uuu/ doing with the new world?

>>66751001
I am a bit of a uuuer myself.

>>66752300
It’s pretty close to the equator and the altitude kinda flatten out the temperature so I think /vnug/ will only have wet and dry season if at all

Now we need brrat monk, hooman, and kronie and the council gang's all here.

>>66752409
Managed to claim a nice a little plot of land thats similar enough to the old one that we shouldn't need to change too much.
Getting used to new neighbors is whats going to be interesting.
Hope you stick around to at least give commentary on the new happenings

>>66752583
looking forward to watching mori's pov from this big LC collab

>>66752875
I want to make a retrofuture space age amusement park someday like the one in Kirby. I'll save it for a personal project offline. Do we still have megafauna like wooly mammoths?

>>66752967
Good luck, it's impressive how the more holos are playing LC, the dumber they are. Mori and Kronii did better than the Myth collab, who I think got more done than this group... The chaos was really fun though.

>>66753289
Maybe, but considering the new latitudes, it might be a different kind.
Now that /uuu/ has some seascape between the mainland and some islands, Ive been brainstorming some water based sapling stuff

>>66753434
The mounts of the sea-saplings be like
(those are called leafy seadragons)

>>66753337
I caught a bit from the oreo perspective, and yeah, it def seemed like chaos
even though kaela and mori I thought were pretty good at the game? i thought they would be be able to tard wrangle

>>66753434
Ehh... The mammoths will live elsewhere. You'll have other pachyderms. And if you want water saplings then maybe try mangrove?

>>66753559
Id been floating (ha) the idea of something like mangroves, but now that you mention it along side the megafauna talk...
What about a biome that is mangroves, but the size of redwoods...
Gonna write that down.

>>66753518
Wrangling can only go so far it seems kek. Especially when the crowd goes off every which way. Plus Mori is pretty bad at telling other people what to do, Fauna is better at the gaming leadership thing.
>>66753674
Ohh, kino. If you have the underwater roots go as deep as the branches reach up, you can get enough space down there to build towns in the intertwined root systems, or to let scary things hide in there, could make for some cool images.

Im going to inb4 it now, I dont want to hear about "/uuu/ is just lifting off of james cameron" later on if seasaplings resemble things from picrel

>>66754960
What he's gonna do with that fish?

>>66755944

Wait, that's the bump limit.
Baking.

>>66757303
>>66757303
>>66757303
fresh bread