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Holy shit hololive literally have people on a leash, these motherfuckers trained and brainwashed virgin weebs to get mad and think that if men talk to their favorite "idol" (which is a normal vtuber btw, nothing differs them from other vtubers) that's a problem and they are "whores", the worst part of this is newfags thinking every other vtuber from a different agency is also an "idol", i fucking hate that, how can we fight the cancer that is hololive?

>> No.6659854

>>6659836
Go back

>> No.6659865

Ogey

>> No.6659885
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6659885

>>6659854
He was here before (you)

>> No.6659900

>>6659836
They just want the fantasy, anon. They will grow powerless as the Hololive fad reclines this time next year.

>> No.6659911

>>6659885
>Taking /vt/ seriously
Go back

>> No.6659940

>>6659911
I was also here before (you)

>> No.6659998

>>6659940
*teleports to before (you) getting here*
Psssh, nothin' personal kid.

>> No.6660009

cope

>> No.6660015

>>6659940
Then stop being a retard and take your meds

>> No.6660050

>>6659836
holy shit did you lose an argument in that thread that you had to make another useless thread because you're too much of a peabrain to make a comeback ? the absolute state of cucks

>> No.6660072

>>6659836
>I have been brainwashed by media into hating my masculinity to the point that I enjoy watching females flirt with other men and imply their are fucking, while I clap and throw money at them.

yeah... anon you are enjoy your hobby in the correct way.

>> No.6660162

>>6660072
Virtual YouTubers were originally just that, virtual YouTubers. Male and Female collabs were just a Thursday. There is nothing wrong with enjoying a hobby in it's original form.

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6660208

>>6659836
hololive made vtubing. it's no wonder people expect vtuber values to mirror hololive's. although if you let the industry settle, the normie sensibilities will overtake unicorns

>> No.6660221

>>6660208
If Hololive made vtubing why did it need to leech off of Nijisanji so long for relevancy

>> No.6660286

>>6660221
I think he was saying Hololive caused the current incarnation of the fanbase, not that concept as a whole. Hell, even fucking Ironmouse predates Hololive by a month or so, let alone the old guard like Ai

>> No.6660336

>>6660286
Regardless if a bunch of Redditors have gotten into vtubing in the past year, saying all of vtubing should imitate the unicorn-pandering business model as a result of it is a fucking awful idea. Literally pushing subversive western sensibilities onto a Japanese institution.

>> No.6660373

>>6660162
And Hololive is just virtual idols.
You don't like Hololive? Watch Nijisanji.
Don't like them? There's VShojo.
And so on and so on...
Why waste a thread sperging about something that clearly has market alternatives?

>> No.6660412

>>6660373
I assumed you were referring to vtubing as a whole as your "hobby". If you were just referring to Hololive I have no objections to your original statement and I'm not the OP. I simply don't think how Hololive operates should be pushed on pre-existing vtubers that don't cater to the same market.

>> No.6660449

>>6660336
Who is saying every vtuber should immitate hololive? I don't watch vshojo or nijisanji because they're all whores, but I never once expected them to change.

>> No.6660505

>>6660412
I wasn't that guy either, but I understood the messaging as just that: a man enjoying his hobby that caters to his interests. Mind you, Hololive itself doesn't even restrict male collabs, the girls choose of their own volition to do so and many do so because it's more profitable for them.

>> No.6660518

>>6660336
>subversive western sensibilities onto a Japanese institution
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
>idolfaggotry
>not Japanese

>> No.6660536

>>6660449
True but you're still an idolbuta

>> No.6660570

>>6660518
Idols are popular with the Japanese, sure. But if a bunch of western people decide to uphold idolfaggotry above all else to the extent that they'll attack other Japanese vtubers that ALSO appeal to the Japanese because they want them to appeal to their tastes, that is being a subversive westerner. Not hard to grasp.

>> No.6660617

>>6660536
So? What's wrong with not being a cuck?

>> No.6660639

>>6659836
Hololive attracted the vast majority of the EN audience vtubing in general enjoys today.
If idolism is infecting your JP chuubas, you have a case for your grievance against Hololive. I doubt this is who you're talking about.
If your chuuba is EN, she's riding off HoloEN's success and you should suck it up.

>> No.6660652

>>6660570
Are those western people demanding other agencies to catter to idol fans in the room with us?

>> No.6660661

>>6659836
It's popular. That means it's supported by the majority. If you want to fight the majority in anything you're fighting an endless number of people who won't listen to a word you have to say. Also it's never been successfully done. Have fun in your journey.

>> No.6660664

>>6660652
No, but they're definitely on this board.

>> No.6660667

The holobrony fanbase is definitely one of the worst

>> No.6660675

>>6659836
Any woman that talks to a man is a filthy whore, doesn't matter what her job is.

>> No.6660684

>>6659836
Isn't it the other way around? Vshojo can act like dirty whores all they want, I just want them to stay away from Hololive. I see far more people arguing that the Holos should be collabing with e-celebs and men than the reverse that Vshojo and Nijis should act like idols.

>> No.6660704

>>6659836

pay Hiroyuki Nishimura to nuke /vt/ from existance its the only way,
even when /jp/ was the only vtuber board it wasn't that bad,
/vt/ has become r/hololive but mixed with /pol/

>> No.6660706

>>6660664
Clown
>>6660667
>The /vt/ fanbase is definitely one of the worst
FTFY

>> No.6660709

OP btfo

>> No.6660721

>>6660412
Literally nobody is pushing for all vtubers to be idols. In fact I'll throw down the challenge and ask you to link me to ONE (1) post on /vt/ that says that Vshojo should be idols. Keep in mind that criticising them for being whores isn't an argument that they should be idols, it's just pointing out they're whores. The post should be something along the lines of "vtubing is for idols only, vshojo need to act like idols". If you can point me to a single post that says something along those lines then I'll be shocked/

>> No.6660729

>>6660208
>>6660221

hololive literally used nijisanji meta tags for 2 years untill gen 3 got popular....
and people shit on uto for doing this for literally 1 video...........

also the idol shit didn't exist before gen 3 older gens could interact freely with males and took exact same methods of streaming as nijisanji.

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>>6659836
we need to bring back the king to slay these rrat posters and unicorns. bring back vtubers to its roots

>> No.6660774

>>6660729
Cover cottoned on to the fact that they could reel far more people in by being an anime substitute than just being streamers with 2D avatars. Hololive fills the same niche as Yuru Yuri, while Nijisanji fills the same niche as Pokimane. It's not hard to understand why Hololive is far more popular now ever since they changed their approach.

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6660779

>>6660704
> pay
That's not going to be cheap

>> No.6660808

>>6660664

You're an idiot complaining about western hololive fans wanting every vtuber to be an idol, but like 90% of western hololive fans are normalfags and redditors who cheer every time there's a collab with vshojo or nijisanji. If anything the exact oposite of your delusion is happening, westerners want Hololive vtubers to stop pandering to idolfags and become whores.

>> No.6660823

>>6660774
>Hololive fills the same niche as Yuru Yuri, while Nijisanji fills the same niche as Pokimane
You don't watch Nijisanji and you don't know how hard a lot of them lean into the keyfabe or act like anime characters come to live, but do try to find a Twitch streamer that acts the same as Debi or Mashiro just because it'd be entertaining

>> No.6660833

>>6660072
imagine being so deprived of human interaction that you think a man and a woman interacting in any way means they are flirting

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6660851

>>6660617
Idolbuta are the real cucks. Think about it.
Idols are sexually frustrated and take cock behind the screen and you're a mentally ill kimo ota who think they will never enter an intimate relationship until they retire because you are top priority to them. Truth is they are after your simpbux. You're nothing but a money printer to them. At least vshojos and nijisanji are transparent, they expect you to watch them for entertainment not so that they can be your virtual girlfriends. You are willingly giving money to fake idols who wont tell you even if they get a boyfriend.

>> No.6660865

>>6660823
>Stop trying to make non-Hololives act like idols
>N-Nijisanji aren't just streamers they're idols too
Can you get your story straight please. Are they trying to be pure anime waifus or are they not.

>> No.6660876

>>6660721
Wouldn't OP only needs after reading this is to post something like that in a thread and screenshot it as a 'proof'?

>> No.6660878

>>6660851
>At least vshojos and nijisanji are transparent
>posts ain image of a slut who has been caught multiple times lying about her escapades

>> No.6660887

>>6660865
Not me, and where did I say Debi or Mashiro acted like idols? I said they act like anime characters. With that being said, there is an idol in Nijisanji if you want to get specific, Uiha.

>> No.6660928

>>6660887
>I said they act like anime characters
That's too broad. I didn't say anime, I specified the CGDCT genre which includes K-On, Yuru Yuri, etc.

>> No.6660933

>>6660878
It's to filter delusional pigs like you. If she was in Hololive you'd treat her like she's your mommy gf.

>> No.6660957

>>6659836
>>6659885
Well, that was easy to disprove you.

https://youtu.be/UAyYco48Rd4

>> No.6660963

>>6660928
There is multiple Nijisanji livers that'd fit that genre. Lulu, Lize, Toko and Amamiya all tend to play up (or played up in Lulu's case, RIP) their cuteness and stick to their female friend groups. What you must realize is that Nijisanji members all act differently from one another, there is no one way they all act.

>> No.6660987

>>6660336
>it is a fucking awful idea
It is not. The whores and the males are destroying vtuber with their normies offpako circle bullshit. A serious vtuber like Lulu wouldn't have to retired if Nijisanji was exactly like Hololive instead of whatever it is right now.

>> No.6661011

>>6660987
>A serious vtuber like Lulu wouldn't have to retired if Nijisanji was exactly like Hololive instead of whatever it is right now
Bullshit and you know it. Pandering harder to gachikois would only have increased the amount of stalkers she got, not decreased them.

>> No.6661023

>>6660933
If she was in Hololive she would've been put on a tighter leash at best (towa), and doxxed out of the company at worst (aloe). Hololive chads don't fuck around, she wouldn't last 2 weeks.

>> No.6661024

>>6660987
>The whores and the males are destroying vtuber with their normies offpako circle bullshit
They're not destroying anything. Hololive already set the industry staple yet the groups who don't follow that formula lives rent free in your brain.

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>>6661023
>idolbuta
>chad
Now you're just shitposting

>> No.6661060

>>6660987
Lulu was stalked BY those unicorns, you stupid fuck. Literal coordinated effort to find her using sound.
Rushia is being stalked by one right now and has mentioned it multiple times recently. God only knows how many others have been and kept it silent.
These people are actual psychos. Pander to the mentally insane and you will find the mentally insane.

>> No.6661079

>>6661011
And yet the only two graduations in Hololive over the past year have been due to Chinks and Nijinigger harassment, not their own Gachikois. Really makes you think

>> No.6661083

>>6661060
They wanted red supachats from otaku with disposable income and that's how the cookie crumbles in the idol scene.

>> No.6661094

>>6661079
So you didn't actually watch Lulu's graduation? She outlined the reason she left very clearly.

>> No.6661113

>>6661079
>due to Chinks and Nijinigger harassment, not their own Gachikois
Lol
https://youtu.be/SVhSRmoGehg

>> No.6661116

>>6661094
Yeah harassment by Nijiniggers. Unsurprising. Niggersanji has a notoriously terrible fanbase. Remember when they harassed that new debut over singing a song she hadn't "earned" the right to sing?

>> No.6661141

>>6661024
They are destroying everything EXCEPT Hololive. Unlike those people who are just playing around, using the fact that they're vtubers to meet and fuck, Hololive members are established professionals. Hololive will survive even if vtuber as a whole implode.

>> No.6661150

>>6661116
You are aware Lulu was considered an "honorary Holo" for a long time, yes? She had the biggest shared fanbase with Hololive fans outside of the company. Really makes you think.

>> No.6661165

>>6661141
Spade Echo, a former Hololive member, admitted to offpako-ing a member of VirtuaReal in leaked DMs. Nice try though.

>> No.6661180

>>6661113
The video is literally a guy saying he was glad of Aloe graduation..

>> No.6661188

>>6661180
Yes. A Hololive fan saying that.

>> No.6661207

>>6661180
an idolbuta just like (you)

>> No.6661210

>>6661188
Yeah, but it doesn't disprove what the other anon said

>> No.6661224

>>6661113
Dude was hired by nenechi to screw over aloe

>> No.6661228

>>6661207
Ogey, I guess?

>> No.6661231

>>6661210
He was referring to Aloe's graduation so yes, the narrative that all the harassment came from le Nijinigger boogeyman is very much false.

>> No.6661248

>>6661231
The dude in the video doesn't even said he harassed Aloe

>> No.6661259

>>6661150
That makes it a shame she was harassed to the point of graduation by nijiniggers. But again, unsurprising since they do have their reputation for a reason. I notice you didn't even touch the fact that the nijiniggers harrass their own talents for singing songs they don't have the right to sing, makes it too obvious the niji fanbase is insane cancer?

>> No.6661271

>>6661248
So you think somebody that celebrated her graduation wouldn't have contributed to the cause?

>> No.6661336

>>6661271
No, not really, like people can hate someone but wont bother on doing anything about them

>> No.6661349

>>6661259
I'm assuming you're referring to the situation with Chigusa? You'll be happy to know she lost no subscribers from the "harassment" incident and that she's the most popular in her wave, Selejo, by a mile. Almost like nobody except opportunistic Nijiantis latched onto the non-issue. You believe in coincidences far more than I do, claiming that a fanbase where Shion is currently taking time off to pursue legal action against her own stalkers just coincidentally were big fans of Lulu who also graduated due to stalking and had nothing to do with it.

>> No.6661353

>>6661259
if 5ch schizos sperging out over chigusa singing vtl (which the point isn't actually because she was a new member) supposed to represent the entire fanbase's (it clearly wasn't because the chat was raining rainbows and there was no outrage on twitter) then we should call hololive fanbase terrible too because of the /vt/ schizos who actively make hololive talents look bad by harassing their collab partners, doxxing them and parroting narratives about how they got fingered on stream
imagine being this self-unaware, you are a fucking moron.

>> No.6661392

>>6660957
you proved his point

>> No.6661408

>>6660878
if marine was in nijisanji you would be seething everything she said "im horney"

>> No.6661412

>>6661188
>hololive fan
>didn't even follow any holos on twitter
>never made any videos about holo before this
Damn, son, I've got a bridge I wanna sell you.

>> No.6661431

>>6659836
are you dumb? idol or otherwise is irrelevant, people are watching them for cute personalities, quiet relaxation, gfe and company. all of that immediately stops when there's a fucking dude on the stream, everything becomes loud, cringey, and if anything they flirt with the real person and stop any gfe with chat.
people dislike it not because it's some idol rule but because it COMPLETELY changes the content and atmosphere of the stream and makes it into something they wouldn't actually want to watch, otherwise they would already be watching any of the billion channels in existence that are constantly just multiple people all on vc being loud and ignoring chat.

>> No.6661452

>>6661431
you sound like a jealous incel who can't stand other people having a relationship in front of you, but that's how the real world is so get used to it or actually shape the fuck up and get good enough to attract a girl

>> No.6661465

>>6661392
I don't see any evil idol buta cancelling Towa so please tell me how.

>> No.6661471

>>6661353
>Being this much of a normalfag
Holy shit the absolute fucking state of nijiniggers.

>> No.6661494

>>6661431
Most male/female collabs are just group activities like Among Us where they actually play games, no flirting involved and hardly any change in atmosphere from if it wasn't unisex, watch streams

>> No.6661508

>>6661452
Why do you want Hololive to change? Why not just watch whoever provides what you're looking for? The numbers speak to themselves, the idolfags have won you can either accept that or keep screeching into the void

>> No.6661512

>>6661471
>Not doxxing and spreading fake narratives about talents in your company makes you a normalfag
Holobronies are mentally ill.

>> No.6661555

You are retarded, please commit suicide

>> No.6661562

>>6661512
>Maintaining a standard of quality by ousting whores is bad
Enjoy watching Gundou talk about how she got creampied for the 15th time this week Nijinigger. It's just sad that you seethe so much about the fact you're irrelevant. Watch your whores and shut the fuck up.

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6661577

>>6661471
you're right we should learn a thing or two from hololive fans and start cross-posting our narratives on reddit.

>> No.6661589

You are all retarded. Fucking kill yourselves

>> No.6661597

>>6661452
>hurr durr look at me project you should just watch shows you don't want to watch incel
You sound retarded anon. They are tv shows, every streamer is just an alternative to tv, and I'll only watch the shows I actually enjoy watching and enjoy the atmosphere of, it's not that complicated.

>>6661494
Nah that's rarely the case. Among us maybe cause there's like a dozen+ people there is a bit different, but when it's like 4/5 or less people it drastically changes everything that occurs. Like lets pretend apex didn't completely suck dick for a moment, the change in audio levels and how they act if it was a mixed sex 3 player collab apex stream would immediately make the thing worse to listen to.

>> No.6661600

>>6661562
Judging every Nijisanji liver by Gundou is like judging every Hololive talent by Aloe. Which I'll now proceed to do, sashimi dildo-licker.

>> No.6661604
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6661604

Give me the fucking microphone.
Listen up.
I'm sick and tired of all you loud ass entitled holobronies running your mouths.
Every single day you come out here, you make the same damn posts. "Kiara is annoying" this, "OGEY" that.
Well guess what I'm gonna do?

I'm gonna take my mouse
>WHAT?
I'm gonna click on the post number
>WHAT?
I'm gunna start typing in the reply box
>WHAT?
I said I'm gunna start typing in the reply box!
>WHAT?
I'm gunna call you an autist
>WHAT?
A pavement rrat
>WHAT?
A SIMP monkey
>WHAT?
A no good son of a Botan
>WHAT?
I'm gonna solve the captcha
>WHAT?
The first one I didn't read properly
>WHAT?
The second one I typed it wrong
>WHAT?
The third one I typed a 0 where's a fucking O
>WHAT?
>I say I typed a fucking ZERO!
>WHAT?
The fourth one I typed well, hope so.
>WHAT?
Fuck this bullshit!!
>WHAT?
I'm gonna click submit
>WHAT?
I said I'm gonna click submit!
>WHAT?
I'm gunna derail the thread!
>WHAT?
Send all you ungrateful simps back to /jp/
>WHAT?
That's right, I said I'll send you back!
>WHAT?
AND THAT'S THE BOTTOM LINE
>WHAT?
CUZ STONE COLD SAID SO
>"Crystals starts shattering"

>> No.6661607

>>6661577
>Reddit is bad
>Yet the Nijiniggers have the exact same opinions about collabs with males and idolculture as redditors
Very curious

>> No.6661626

Why is this thread still alive when OP has been proven wrong already?¿

>> No.6661635

>>6661465
towa didn't do anything though?

>> No.6661638

>>6661607
I'm just curious, what do you think idol culture is exactly? Would you say Sora is less of an idol for collaborating regularly with Gachiman?

>> No.6661649

>>6661626
Nijiniggers need to take the opportunity to seethe that they can't drag Hololive down into the same mud that their whores dragged Niji into. It was a bad strategy, the numbers show that without a doubt, I don't know why they keep trying to cope

>> No.6661668

>>6661577
this board is literally r/hololive what do you expect?
they treat indie chubbas and oldfags like the they treated native americans when the spanish and english came.

>> No.6661672

>>6661512
They are grown men that also only watch Disney movies and only play Nintendo. Anything outside of their arrested development bubble (see zoomer zombie) sends them into an infantile spasm.

>> No.6661673

>>6661597
>but when it's like 4/5 or less people it drastically changes everything that occurs
Hardly. If you watched any of Subaru's collabs with Maimoto you'd know the dynamic between them is hardly sexual and plays out like any good natured collab between two people.

>> No.6661692

>Why doesn't Cover let the Holos do the same thing that made Nijisanji completely irrelevant?
Nijibros...

>> No.6661703

>>6661635
>is collabing with male
>noone is canceling her
I will ask again, where are the evil unicorns?

>> No.6661705

>>6661692
Collabing with Nijisanji males IS what made Hololive members relevant in the first place. They leeched them hard.

>> No.6661708

>>6661668
YWNBJ

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6661716

>>6659836
Yes.

>> No.6661720

>>6661673
I don't watch subaru to begin with becuase she's not the kind of stream I'm after. Counterpoint though: literally look at ollies interactions with any male whatsoever, even not on stream.

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>>6661705
>Collabing with Nijisanji males IS what made Hololive members relevant in the first place. They leeched them hard.

>> No.6661741

>>6661705
I doubt even 5% of Hololives current fanbase was introduced to Hololive by clips of Holos collabing with Niji males.

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>>6661626
>>6661649
>>6661607
>>6661562
>>6661471
>you hate hololive so you must be a niggersanji fan

holy shit you newfags need to go back to r/hololive,
it might blow your mind but there are a silent majority of people who hate whoreshojo holoshit and nigger sanji all in one, literally rrat after rrat literally shitting up the entire board since 2020.

vtubing used to be a cozy subgroup with the vn community now its turned into the bastard child of /r9k/ and /pol/

>> No.6661754

>>6661708
Thank fuck. I’ll keep my supreme American dick and bang idolfag oshi’s until they all must graduate due to carrying my hafu child.

>> No.6661756

>>6661720
Ollie is an actual fangirl who joined Hololive specifically to subvert it - she's the exception, not the rule. Anya has no issues collabing with men, but she rightfully told Ollie to tone it down. The vast majority of male/female collabs are professional in nature and it's a shame that one zombie with a crush ruined that perception.

>> No.6661773

>>6661672
this is an excellent post. i'm going to save this for the next time i have to explain what 'projection' is. this should be an illustration in a textbook. thank you for posting.

>> No.6661780

>>6661741
Now, definitely not. But back then it absolutely was what put Hololive on the map.

>> No.6661801

>>6661773
>Disney is the biggest animation company
>Nintendo is the biggest gaming company
What's the biggest vtubing company, again?

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>> No.6661850

>>6661756
The vast majority of idol collabs with males are also professional and hardly anyone raises a stink when holoJP collabs with established professionals like Sugita or Inotac. The vast majority of people pushing for male/female collabs from hololive are just concerned, well-intentioned fans from the nijisanji side worried that their male livers have drained most of the popularity from their females and now need some fresh blood to leech off.

>> No.6661861

>>6661750
>/r9k/ and /pol/
The stupid bullshit posted here is stupid bullshit, but what are you so obsessed with retard central and retard avenue you have to bring them up all the time? They have nothing to do with the stupidity in this thread. Stop being obsessed with retards

>> No.6661874

>>6661801
AnyColor, which has far more money, assets and employees than Cover.

>> No.6661877

>>6661750
>but there are a silent majority of people who hate whoreshojo holoshit and nigger sanji all in one
This is a cope and you know it. Sorry oldfag larper, this board is 99% reddit hololive and niji fans and you being in the 1% of reddit indie fans does not make you a silent majority.

>> No.6661885

>>6659836
>(which
go back

>> No.6661902

>>6661850
If you should blame anybody for collab begging it's the Homobeggars, not Nijiniggers. Collab begging is cancer in all forms, unisex or not.

>> No.6661919

>>6661812
I DON'T BELEEB

>> No.6661934

>>6661874
Numbers thread says otherwise, sorry. You'll just have to accept being a fan of the biggest vtubing company in the world, it must be a hard pill to swallow.

>> No.6661938
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6661938

>Reminder

>> No.6661944

>>6661668
>like the they treated native americans when the spanish and english came.
By settling barren land and defending themselves when nomads came to attack them?

>> No.6661967

>>6661750
>rrat after rrat
you claim to be an oldfag yet you're using this globaltard term, why?

>> No.6661975

>>6661861

i would stop complaining if garbage that sound like it was pulled straight from /r9k/ and /pol/ is posted regularly if i wanted stuff from there i would go there

>> No.6661986

>>6661877
Not him but do you honestly think there arnt people here that just watch indie and non holo/niji/Vshojo small company vtubers? There's animare, sugar link, phase Connect, tsunderia, prism, kawaii, riot live and many other smaller companies.
And what does reddit have to do with anything? I dont use it so I understand the obsession, or are incapable of making an actual argument against what that anon posted?

>> No.6662009

>>6661967

what else am I supposed to convey to these zoomers what shitty narratives are?

its like calling a cigarette a fag in public, sure they used to say that in the olddays but in front of a younger audience they will not understand so you end up adapting to newer terms.

>> No.6662019

>>6661975
Try speaking English you cretinous ESL

>> No.6662034

>>6661986
Yes that's why I brought up the 1% of the board which are reddit indie fans, learn to read.
>And what does reddit have to do with anything
It's where you came from.

>> No.6662049

>>6661934
The numbers thread only looks at views and superchats. Numbers that aren't explored in that thread but are mentioned everywhere else on /vt/ also show that AnyColor is objectively better in terms:
>merch
>revenue
>employees
>investors
>tech quality

while Cover only beats them at:
>subs
>superchats

It's pretty clear which is the larger and superior company.

>> No.6662054

>>6661780
rumao, you can bait newfags with this shit but back then when the industry wasn't big as today most of the people that were watching VTuber content were mainly NND fucks that pretty much had mapped the whole scene.

>> No.6662066

>>6662009
just say narrative. you don't have to adapt to them. simply tell them to fuck off back to their generals. adapting to holoshit global's standard is the reason why this shithole is, well, a shithole.

>> No.6662103

>>6662054
That in no way invalidates my statement at all.

>> No.6662123

>>6662009
>sure they used to say that in the olddays but in front of a younger audience they will not understand so you end up adapting to newer terms.
Maybe if you're a raging homosexual but normal people don't do that

>> No.6662135

>>6661877
>/asp/ - Aspiring Vtuber and Startup literally one of the most active and posted consistent threads on /vt/
>/asmr/ ASMR VTubers regularly posted as well
>africats threads
>beatani threads
>uto threads
>even /bbg/ - bilibili general stuff gets posted regularly
>/vt/uber Drawthreads usually always full of indies.

if i count the amount of threads RIGHT NOW AT THIS SECOND
there are literally far more posters with unique ips in those indie threads.
the hololive threads gets pushed up due to schizo posting and people replying more

>> No.6662158

>>6662135
And idiots like you who keep taking baits

>> No.6662193

>>6662135
You can believe whatever makes you feel better man.

>> No.6662204

>>6662135
>there are literally far more posters with unique ips in those indie threads.
Because the threads last longer retard

>> No.6662221

>>6662034
>It's where you came from.
No its not. That is a lie. I last used reddit 4 years ago, for plumbing help
Again what does reddit have to do you implying people here do not watch indies. You're trying to make it like hololive, Nijisanji, and Vshojo are the only vtubers in existence and the only ones people watch. That is a verifiable lie, as many other Vtubers and companies exist and are watched and enjoyed by many others

>> No.6662251

>>6662049
This feels like a cope because by every visible metric Hololive blows Niji out of the water. Viewers, subscribers, superchats, etc. "Revenue"? Is there any public information available to compare the two companies or are you just pulling it out of your ass? And lets be honest here even if you're right and Ichikara has more capital what the fuck have they done with it? They completely missed the EN boom by nearly an entire year. Even if they're bigger than Hololive in Japan (and that's a big if) they're completely irrelevant on the global stage with no obvious avenues for growth,

>> No.6662259

>>6662221
Everything you just said is untrue.

>> No.6662286

>>6662221
Why are you so upset over being called reddit? Just accept it. This entire board is full of fucking redditors and you're obviously one of them.
>You're trying to make it like hololive, Nijisanji, and Vshojo are the only vtubers in existence and the only ones people watch.
Learn to read.

>> No.6662289

>>6661877

as of this second
i will give a list of all the non niji holo vvshojo threads

>>6614066
>>6647684
>>6549292
>>6660451
>>6492019
>>6654534
>>6617809
>>6648800
>>6633680
>>6546537
>>6660755
>>6661790
>>6617194
>>6618133

holofags will gasslight as much as they want the facts are here,
there are more ips in those indie threads than the holothreads and far more indie threads than holothreads,
the reason why holothreads live long and have more posts is due to schizos spreading rrats and arguing like in /pol/

face is niggersanji holoshit and whoreshojo are minority, most of the silent majority don't want to interact with you schizos so they stay in their own boards.

>> No.6662306

>>6662289
i forgot a bunch since the placing changed as a refreshed so there are even more than i listed

>> No.6662337

>>6661944
go back to /pol/

>> No.6662362

>>6662337
And what if I refuse will you continue to impotently complain?

>> No.6662382

>>6662289
I don't understand why you're coping so hard. Linking snails paced threads isn't convincing anyone.

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>>6662259
>>6662286

t. paid zhang shill

>> No.6662413

>>6662382
keep coping holoshill,

samefagging 200 times with 2 ip's in rrat threads doesn't mean shit,
you are a minority, face it, this is how trump won 2016 when the whole entire media was against him, he had the silent majority

>> No.6662431

>>6662286
You're entire post was full of bullshit. I do not understand how i am reddit. You cannot become reddit that is impossible. And all I did was clear up the fact that you said I came from there to here. Clearing your confusion does not make me upset.
Try as hard as you want to, you cannot erase the fact that more than the big 3 of vtubers exist. Read the catalog.
>>6662289
That post is a better example. If you just said "I do not care about indies" it would have been better. Next time learn to post properly so you can get your point across instead if wrapping it in bullshit and lies

>> No.6662460

>>6661750
You lost OP just deal with it

>> No.6662497

>>6662413
Cope.
He didn't win the popular vote either election but that's neither here nor there and I'm not interested in debating about the kike loving orange man.
>>6662431
You are Reddit.
>Try as hard as you want to, you cannot erase the fact that more than the big 3 of vtubers exist. Read the catalog.
And your inability to read continues to prove that.

>> No.6662501

>>6661705
Chinks were the reason Hololive got put on the map you retard. Their constant foreign pandering is what made them popular.

>> No.6662543

OP is seething hard holy shit

>> No.6662555

Man... some of you guys remind me of the "supreme gentleman", people so insecure that even if they are watching a fucking animated avatar they can't stand the fucking idea of a man talking to them, that's crazy. And i get people want to stay in their bubble but holy shit man, life does not work that way.

>> No.6662587

>>6662555
Spoken like a true r/hololive redditor

>> No.6662606

This is why you filter all hololive threads

>> No.6662623

>>6659885
Unicorns were there in the beginning. They're the ones being pushed out of the fandom they love by normies.

>> No.6662628

>>6662049
Anon, still living on 2019 and early 2020?

Ah, but it ultimately doesn't matter, Hololive will outgrow Nijisanji anyway.

>> No.6662629

>>6662606
And the board slows down to /po/ tier.
>b-but muh silent majority

>> No.6662680

>>6662628
ssshhh let them dream of their good ol' glory days anon

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6662725

>>6662460
>>6662431

i'm sure this will blow your mind but op likely didn't even make a single post in this thread after the first post, it would probably blow your mind to know that your little hololive bubble is only a small minority and a lot of people dislike you schizos not just a small handful

>> No.6662740

>>6662049
Are there public numbers for merch and revenue? Source?

>> No.6662782

>>6662497
thats because they summited thousands of votes using dead people retard. more than 10% of hilary's votes where from dead people, they literally had crazies counting the people manually at the rallies and measuring up and calculating the projected vote rate. it was way lower than it should have been

>> No.6662786

>>6662725
Holy cope, well this "small handful" rules /vt/ so might as well just go back to r/virtualyoutubers where you belong, mr. silent majority

>> No.6662837

>>6662725
You replied to the wrong person. I was saying hololive, Nijisanji, and Vshojo are not the only vtubers in existence, and no matter how much someone wants to push that narrative, indies and their viewers (read the catalog) also exist

>> No.6662889

>>6662382
>bragging about thread speed
this isn't the 4chan i know

>> No.6662906

>>6662103
You're pretending to be ignorant, oldfag, retarded or all above. Choose one and only one. You're claiming Holos leeched of the Nijis but you completely ignore the fact that majority Holos and Nijis knew each other before they even became chuubas and vica versa and of course their fanbases knew about that too because they came from the same niche NND environment therefore the giant offpako joke. Your post is especially idiotic because Hololive have the NND queen herself, Noel, and some other members that were active back then, or for example don't tell me you think that Ayame getting someone like Nana as mama was just a mere coincidence. Also this is my last post to you. I have no intention of feeding you anymore.

>> No.6662913

>>6662786
>r/virtualyoutubers
Not him but have you ever even heard of /vyt/? Its been on /jp/ longer than /vt/ has existed. Do you really think a reddit board for indie vtubers has a monopoly on watching and posting about independent vtubers?

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6662935

>>6662204
your point?

holoshit threads are like the average hololive viewer, a premature ejaculation, it happens fast then disappears fast like a disappointment.
indie threads have staying power since its not just same people spaming replys to each other.

half of yall newfags don't even know what sageing is, so thats one of the main tells that holofags are all iedditers. and another reason why holo schizo rrat threads are always on page 1.

>> No.6662974

>>6662786

only if you go back to r/hololive first

>> No.6662983

>>6662935
Nice projection

>> No.6663001

>>6662889
all of them are from r/hololive
they don't even know what sageing is what do you expect?

>> No.6663029

>>6662935
>yall
Learn to type like a normal fucking person. Like if you're writing an essay or emailing your boss from work.
You all, you people, anon in this thread, the people in this thread, all of you, these words and phrases that exist

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>>6661780
>>6662054
>>6662103
>>6662906

i can't believe I'm having to spoon feed y'all on this thread out of all things

>> No.6663075

>>6662935
>wojaker calling others redditors

>> No.6663083

man... people get this shit waaayy to seriously, imagine thinking your "oshi" that girls acting for money does not interact with man, does not have a partner, does not have a life outside their job, you are fucking sick in the head

>> No.6663117

>>6663029
>using reddit spacing

you need to go back

>> No.6663136

>>6663083
what an original opinion

>> No.6663258

>>6663117
>using reddit spacing
That is not reddit spacing. And what does that have to do with my post. If you say yall you sound retarded. Utilize an english dictionary, thesaurus, and or google

>> No.6663267

>>6662049
>numbers thread
>the same thread where everyone is waiting for Covers's annual financial report
>not look at numbers
Anon?

>> No.6663276

>>6663136
wait so if i don't agree with most of you niggers i need to go back? am i disturbing your hugbox? i thought this wasn't leddit

>> No.6663301

>>6663276
who are you quoting?

>> No.6663625

>>6661703

sora has had literally 100+ collabs with males in the past no ones canceling her ether,
my point is....

no one watches streams, all the rrat posters are literally dramafags who don't give a shit to the point where i'm arguing with them for fun since its hilarious when i can link a clip to disprove them instantly but since they don't watch streams they get dumbfounded.

but my point still stands,
unicorns and idolfags are a minority you are all irrelevant, indiechads are a silent majority that doesn't stray out of their threads and idolfags are all retarded schizos who needs to go back to r/hololive.

>> No.6663705

>>6663258
go back

>> No.6663771

>>6663625
Reading all your retardation is hilarious.

>> No.6663909

>>6663705
>go back
To where?

>> No.6664033

>>6659836
Holobronies are disgusting

>> No.6664546

>>6661604
what a post

>> No.6665023

>>6662786
r/virtualyoutubers mods are nijifags though.

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>>6663625
>indiechads
You mean groomers? Groom more minors on twitch buddy. worthless bozo Groom groom, groooom

>> No.6665267

>>6663625
>indiechads are a silent majority
The 'majority' that doesn't have numbers to back them up LMFAO. You mentally ill groomers are anything but the majority bro

>> No.6665344

>>6661465
The unicorns left her after her first yab

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>>6659836
You need to go back. /vt/ is a Blacked free zone. Leddit and their cuckoldry fetishes are not welcome here.

>> No.6666357

>>6666257
yayoi fear jomon

>> No.6666458

I dont understand the console war tier faggotry between Nijisanji and Hololive I feel like im in /v/

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