/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

It's Krover....

>>66480298
>unforeseen reasons
the magnoir special..its over

>>66480298
>unforeseen reasons
is this a bit?

>>66480298
o7 you will be greatly missed purple dragon. May your isekai into a better world next life.

>>66480298
HAHA

>>66480298
Just do a mystia and go anyways irl and have a meet and greet with the fans

>>66480298
And of course the sisters right away validating this because "she just got out of hospital"

>>66480298
Selen just fucking leave already this is fucked

>>66480298
Oh no, was she sent to the hospital again?

>>66480298
Welp, she's sitting out the rest of her contract

>>66480298
>unforeseen reasons

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>unforeseen reasons

>>66480298
Why don't they just say she's graduating already?

>>66480298
BLACK COMPANY

>>66480298
>unforeseen reasons
Yeah, it's so fucking over...

>>66480298
>misses niji event
>but plays apex all day
OWARI DA...

I'll be surprised if her next stream isn't graduation.

>>66480821
contract aint up til autumn is what I've seen down in the drama mines.

>>66480298
Yeah this isn't funny and the people ITT treating this shit as a joke speaks volumes about the fucking state of this fandom

>>66480919
>>66480728

>>66480298
lets math this out


selen wants to graduate, niji wants her to graduate:
we would've had the announcement already and had a graduation month like pomu. impossible

selen doesn't want to graduate, niji wants her to graduate:
niji can dishonorably fire her w/o a farewell stream. impossible

selen wants to graduate, niji wants her to stay:
this announcement is niji not wanting to give her a big platform to say her farewell. they are still negotiating on whether she gets a amicable separation and any farewell stream at all.

selen doesn't want to graduate, niji doesn't want her to graduate:
niji knows selen is such a fucking pushover they are still using the stealth suspension to punish her. selen will become an obedient dog because she doesn't want to be hurt by niji again

which is it?

>>66480821
because graduating two organs in one month is bad

>>66480961
chill anon people know she's ok and was spamming apex for days

nothingburger holokeks

the leaker did say Selen was next to go but I wasn't expecting it to go down like this desu

>>66480821
They can't terminate her because of optics and they can't graduate her because contract is still ongoing. I don't see Selen reneging on an event she agreed to participate in so this is 100% nijiEN managment pulling her out and forcing her to mia the rest of the contract.

>>66481003
Neither you nigger.
She literally posted proof that she was in the hospital and is recovering in her home, traveling to LA, when she doesn't even live in US was not going to happen regardless.

>>66480821
we can only do one transplant at time.

>>66480919
Come on selen, just deeznuts yourself out of niji

Okay. I want to know. I am a fucking corp baby when it comes to this as I only follow Hololive. What the fuck happened? Why is Niji always bleeding talent like this? How the fuck did they manage to lose fucking Pomu of all talents followed by Selen? What the fuck happened with Selen? Is this shit with her being in the hospital a rrat?

How is this company seemingly always on ifre?

>>66481003
It's option 1 but both parties have a vested interest in keeping things calm while Pomu is going through her graduation tour.

>>66481215
the ceo just doesn't care

>>66481215
As long as JP is doing fine who gives a fuck about the rest of the branches. EN will die like ID and KR

>>66480298
Did the nijisanji hitmen break into her house again and tell her not to go?

>>66481003
They can't randomly fired their employee/contractor. It's illegal in Japan laws.
That's why they trying so hard to pin the false on Zaion before fired her.
And even they gave the reason but livers disagreed and sued them anyway, 80% chance that fired livers will win the case.

>>66481373
"fine"

>>66481150
If she was really hospitalized, then she can't attend. It's that simple. Stop falling for holon*ger bait ops jfc

>>66481215
When the ceo only cares about raising his stock prices and not the welfare of the talents, then you should've seen this from a mile away.

>>66481215
you flipped the order.
niji pushed selen to suicide and pomu said enough is enough. only person with a backbone.

>>66480298
>Unforseen reasons
Surely it had nothing to do with your management that is so incompetent it drove at least 3 talents to attempt to an hero.
Surely.

>>66481174
NTA but if you think they actually travel to the cons they're guests at, you're a fucking idiot.

>>66480661
Are the sisters in the room with you right now

IT'S REAL https://x.com/NIJISANJI_World/status/1745294482281807902?s=20

>>66480298
>COVID, huh?

just make the announcement already ffs

>>66481215
Niji's whole business model is shitting out wave after wave of streamers and only investing support into the ones that find success. They have a massive roster, and dozens of graduated livers. NijiEN used to be a big draw for people, but now they're not, so Niji is no longer incentivized to support them outside of a select few

>>66481496
they have actually travelled to otakuthon

>>66481215
Where to even begin? Rotten head and body of corpo, rotten fanbase, rotten talents, corrupting new talents they take on, there's so many fucking issues. Wasn't like this in the beginning, someone in an archived thread made a good summary of how it got so bad, basically came down to chasing numbers no matter the cost because the corpo itself is heartless and just grinds everyone into paste.

>>66481215
Cover has talent retention as one of their core business priorities, and Anycolor does not. By itself, this wouldn't be a bad thing inherently. A company could have that principle but have garbage managers who fail the talents anyway.

Unfortunately, Niji both doesn't prioritise it, and has trash management, leading to constant graduations and executions.

Technically her suspension should end right around the 14th or 15th.

>>66481496
They do, and have said so, you imbecile. This shit is not online.

>>66481567
>investing support into the ones that find success
if selen doesn't count as success to you, then the entire branch is a failure

>>66481519
Check the quotes on the announcement tweet sis

>>66481448
She's out of the hospital though?

>>66481558
Pomu is on her graduation tour they are stupid but arent that stupid to compound a selen graduation on top of it.

>>66480730
Equally appropriate for the Soviet Union and Nijisanji

>>66481636
>They said so
D u rly bliev?

The amount of holofaggots saying she should graduate is disgusting.

>>66481414
Jeez selen should stop playing apex and focus all her attention on lawyering up
You just know that kurosanji got another trick to shove up her ignorant ass

>>66481636
i've been to anime expo and anime nyc. vtuber booths are just a screen with a mic. they don't have to be there in person moron

>>66480298
>we would like to
not we regret to inform. what did nijisanji mean by that?

>>66480298
OMFG LETS GOOOOOO SELEN YOU FUCKING SUCK LMAOO DOKI IS A BITCH NIJISANJI BLACKEST COMPANY LMAOOO

If Selen actually loved her Niji family, she would say something. She would tweet something at least. Everyone knows how this looks. But she's too selfish to do even that. Ungrateful bitch.

>>66481723
not knowing how to turn a double graduation into kino is why niji will always be second rated

graduation month at hololive are huge fucking events with 100k+ ccv every stream

>>66481003
They're not going to announce a suspension unless they purposely wanted to publicly shame her and announcing anything about her medical status would be a gross violation of Canadian and probably Japanese law.

>>66481496
Of course they do. They all go out and party afterwards. Nina took her gen to a stripclub after a con once.

this but selen its gonna be fine nijibros the dragon will be back soon and shes gonna get better numbers than kiara

>>66480298
oh why

>>66481668
I see well wishes and concern for her, sis. Where is the problem

>>66480821
they're currently in the process of killing her and replacing her with a new voice actor, no need to graduate

>>66481768
the ammount of nijinigs still licking riku ass are disgusting

>>66481894
Kek'd

>>66481830
we all know they don't have the passwords to their own account and social media during suspension. thank zaion for ruining your rrats

>>66481174
>She literally posted proof that she was in the hospital
where?

>>66481636
you are incredibly fucking gullible

>>66480298
i just want to laugh at the retarded FAGGOT nijiCOPER that told me earlier today i was an idiot because "NO NIJI HASNT SAID SHE WONT BE THERE YET SHES TOTALLY NOT SUSPENDED"
fuck you retarded corpo bootlicker faggot i hope your parents get cancer and you die alone in a sewer, you are far too stupid to pass your genes into anything other than a trash can or a kleenex.

>>66481886
>unless they purposely wanted to publicly shame her
?????
isn't this their modus operandi at this point?

>>66481748
Yes, given they showed the photos on stream and talked about the shit they did there.
And also, I believe because once Ike and Vox fucked up their train tickets and failed to get on time for their own events, and they had to reimburse all the tickets in one of these cons.

>>66481779
Maybe it's how things works for your prerecord agency, but Pomu and Selen have talked about being there IRL.

>>66481894
Hate this fat fuck.

>>66481894
The fucked up part of this image is that both sides ended up being correct.
>Vesper and Magni were just fucking around being bros while they waited out their contract so they could graduate.

>>66482001

>>66481830
Heck I would switch to bitch mode too if I ended wasting 15K

>>66481496
Broadcasting wise it’s way too risky to do it from long distance

>>66482100
>Falling for the oldest trick in the book.
You idiot, now they're going to spam report you for doxxfaggotry.

Niji's PR team is cooking up a list of Selen's transgressions so they can terminate her ala zaion

>>66480821
>Why don't they just say she's graduating already?
Having graduations for both Pomu and Selen in the same month would look bad for NijiEN. Management is likely going to delay the Selen graduation for a while to dampen the impact. They are making this too obvious since the health break started immediately after they deleted her cover song.

>>66482100
Look at that big ol' ham hock.

most people on this board go schizo over their $5 SC getting ignored, I can only imagine what losing $15k would be like

>>66480298
someone is going scorched earth here and that someone has no love for the fans/dragoons.
take a guess who.
also RIP Filian x Selen collab

>>66482100
Enjoy your vacation, think smarter next time

>>66482158
Can you imagine how back the backlash would be if they tried to character assassinate her like that

I bet that alone would trigger other talents to leave

>>66482049
No? We don't even know if she has been suspended, it's just likely given her actions.

Nijisanji has only ever fired two people from the EN branch, and they kept quiet about Yugo's problems. Hell, they barely said anything about Zaion until she started talking shit.

>>66480298
Oh no, nijisisters???

>>66482158
I wish they would, imagine the catastrophic damage their brand would take beyond how bad it is now

>>66482292
holy shit are you actually retarded? its scary people like you are allowed to walk around outside unattended.

>>66482158
i mean it's not that hard. selen didn't exactly play by the book. the problem is getting the community to accept those reasons and that she was actually a bitch

that's why half the people in this thread are getting paid gift cards! GO GO GO SELEN SLANDER TEAM, SAVE YOUR SHITTY CORPO

>>66480298
>>unforeseen reasons
is that niji's new word for suspension or graduation?

>>66480919
Anon you need to count your months properly, the contract is until the middle of spring, not autumn. Unless you live in Australia.

>>66482292
>We don't even know if she has been suspended
Nah we know

>>66481150
Would this be the first time she pulled out of an event?

>>66482158
The whole "Niji is trying to unceremoniously terminate Selen like they did Zaion" is pure rrat. Even those retards in Niji have to realize that trying to pull that will backfire on them hard.

>>66481668
NTA but i saw a few of those, basically going "Shut up, no speculations, only wish for recovery"

>>66482069
Kek yeah. I was pretty upset at the time, but that was very funny in hindsight. Classic Magnoir.

>>66482352
Sounds like graduation language, a suspension would be more like they're taking time off for personal reasons.

>>66482417
>retards in Niji have to realize
That's the entire problem with their EN branch anon...

>>66482417
saving this to laugh at your retarded ass during the termination sticky. lmfao

>>66482379

>>66482417
That's exactly why I want them to try it. I have full confidence that it won't work, and it'll cause a decent amount of sisters to wisen up to their shit. They could afford to stomp Zaion into the dirt, but if they dare to do it again, it'll harm them way more than it does Selen.

>>66482441
>retconing cope that she was never going to be in it

>>66481636
Wow then Niji has some real scumbags for co-workers. Imagine traveling all the way to Paris for Japan Expo and having your co-workers sabotage your panel appearance. Poor Vox and Ike. Fucked over by the company and their co-workers.

>>66482505
Nah, we know.

>>66481595
>>66481886
Otakuthon is the exception, not the norm, notice how all the canadian whores are the ones who were invited in 2022 and then in 2023 when they weren't invited they made a frat party to meet the organs who were invited.

>>66482059
This broke ass company and it's CEO can't even send their organs to Japan you think a small convention would be capable of doing so for all of them?

>>66482417
you say that but you completely forget about how everyone was blaming Selen for being a "retard" for "not getting the permissions". Clearly you're just a nijisister because they were already trying to slander her in the beginning. You just chose to not say anything until this blown up even further

>>66482505
I'm perceiving her being locked out of her account with no actual updates right now, that's stealth suspension.
>n-n-no they have to announce a stealth suspension
Are you fucking retarded?

There's zero chance of a termination a-la Zaion, but she might get graduated unceremoniously like Yugo/Magni and Vesper

so it's at the very least more than 3 weeks suspension

>>66480298
she got the Zaion treatment

>>66481779
They don't HAVE TO physically, yes, nobody is contesting the tech. But from the fact that they've claimed to physically be there for multiple cons, it seems to be a company standard.

>>66480298
ITS OVER

Stop Aia. you are overcooked already.
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

>>66480298
Kurosanji

>>66482292
>Hell, they barely said anything about Zaion until she started talking shit.
bitch, they STARTED it first. Zaion wanted a peaceful exit but then they slandered her. SHUT UP

>>66481448
She was only in the hospital for a night. She's been out and selling dokibird merch to cover her debt while playing Apex on her old account 10 hours a day.

>>66482441
Damn she has decided to focus on Apex Legends, her commission work, and "resting" instead of going to a fan meet and greet.

I DON'T KNOW, MAN. I DON'T KNOW, I GENUINELY THINK NIJISANJI MANAGEMENT IS KIND OF ACTING SUSPICIOUS HERE

>>66482739
I'm sorry your parents didn't love you enough to teach you the difference between knowing something and suspecting it.

But I love you anon, so I'll tell you. You think this is the case, because of circumstantial evidence and past practices followed a similar pattern. You do not actually know.

>>66482505
if you wanna be a pseud, do it right. cite the gettier problems on what constitute "knowledge": https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gettier_problem

>>66482674
I watched the MV and it's sketchy as shit. clearly was alluding to Pomu and her leaving Nijisanji for greener pastures

>>66481608
>Talent retention
Because they're slow. A single talent is a bigger slice of the revenue pie. It's insane what they make the managers do sometimes

>Due to unforeseen reasons
They could have said due to health reasons if that was really the case.

>>66482639
Niji paid them to go to japan multiple times, retard, unlike a certain company that doesn't foot the bill.

>>66482505
It's called a stealth suspension for a fucking reason retard and we know they do them.

>>66482559
your gift card has been deposited!

>>66482829
That's not what happened at all. Stop acting like you were a Zaimon.

>>66480821
AR live revenge. If they terminate her they can't use any of the footage with her in it, so they have to either keep her in limbo until it airs or delay again and bring a bunch of other livers back to Japan for reshoots (again).

>>66482939
Nah, we know

Did anyone uncover anything else about why the cover was deleted?

>>66481463
>Livers will grow back
LIVERS WILL GROW BACK

>>66482752
just like how they claimed to have received their youtube play buttons
they are just keeping up kayfabe

>>66480821
>Why doesn't the company just announce they terminated one of their most well regarded talents in the same week as the other most well regarded talent in the industry is quitting?
No idea, truly a mystery for the ages.

>>66483026
then what happened? I clearly remembered they did a stealth suspension, she got gagged, thrown out the termination book at her, then she couldn't say anything until her fucking Google Doc exposing what happened. In her Google Doc, she wanted a peaceful exit but Nijisanji was more concerned about the company branding...

>>66482939
they know, they're just fucking with you

>>66482947
yep. totally time traveled and inserted the lyrics directly into lilypichu's mind

we're quite literally in purgatory. dragoons...

>>66481478
Pretty sure it wasn't suicide. Look at all the other vTubing companies that collapsed when all their talent lost trust in management and just left en masse.

>>66481830
Dokibird has been tweeting everyday since the suspension you tard.

>>66483011
>https://twitter.com/ike_eveland/status/1679449297912315904
>https://twitter.com/Vox_Akuma/status/1679447839078768641
Mwah!

>>66483127
I understand that, I'm just easily baited apparently.

>>66482987
lololol if niji paid enough their talents wouldn't be so poor and not be able to afford a plane ticket

>>66480298
ITS TIME

>>66483122
The fucked up thing is if they had just terminated Zaion like normal she never would have made that doc. They literally can't stop being their own worst enemy.

>Prepare for unforeseen reasons...

>>66483168
just saying that's what look and sounded like and now both are gone(too greener pastures) coincidence I guess

>>66480298
I read this in G-Man'd voice, it makes much more sense

>>66483115
They're busy creating a rapsheet of all her "crimes"
One will be refusing to be raped by management aka not a team player.

>>66481448
Anon she's been out of the hospital and roommate posting for literal days. The more obvious reason is that she either got stealth suspended or decided she would rather wait out her contract than even remotely head back to that trash heap of a company.

>>66481567
She is a success, there's plenty of successful talents there. The problem is that they don't do much to nurture any talents that are outside JP, so because of that all of their international branches basically fall apart.

>>66482292
>Hell, they barely said anything about Zaion until she started talking shit.
Nigger, they posted her list of crimes on her termination announcement, the worst thing she had done was liking the "fuck Kyo btw" comment on youtube and that was *after* they had already disabled her streamlabs account.

>>66482930
Hospital stay is a bankruptcy. She went home with a doctor's note

>>66483063
the manager was a sadist and just wanted to see selen cry. he didn't expect her to neck herself.

>>66482936
Or they’ve never been curious enough to stalk her other accounts and don’t know about that.

>>66481850
You don't get it. A huge graduation stream filled with donos is literally just paying a bitch who broke the rules and rewarding her with money. They will announce an immediate graduation at the end of her contract, no goodbyes allowed.

>>66482987
Oh yeah I remember when they got paid to go to Nijifest 2022...oh wait they didn't! Just Elira! It was nice seeing Pomu and Rosemi cry on stream about it.

>>66482987
Must have paid for them to go to Paris too then~ Imagine oversleeping your panel appearance, yawn.
>https://twitter.com/NIJISANJI_World/status/1679447426149793793

>>66482947
>>66483325
They plan these projects months ahead. I don't doubt she knew about Pomu, I'm not sure about her though. It's definitely a scary coincidence and the suspension doesn't help make the case sound any better

>>66483411
Who cares? They take a cut of that money.

>>66483372

>>66483122
If they just graduated her without all the shit flinging the google doc would have never been made. Same thing with striking False's channel, he was always ready to swing at holo and look favorably upon niji until he got hit by niji. Now he is more than willing to take up any trash that this place digs up on niji and uploads it.

>>66483394
Selen's Canadian. Hospital stay is $50 a night if you want a private room or free if you don't mind sleeping in the open ward.

>>66483394
She’s Canadian

>>66483279
selen would set the cultural tone right for a vspo EN. the problem is finding 3 or 4 more of her to form a gen

>>66483289
EXACTLY!!!! It was absolutely unnecessary that they did that.

>>66482158
or they learned a lesson of not all fans are utter retards. meaning just a short mutual agreement to part ways.

i hope they go with the list tho.

>>66483509
>not the soundpost with the catchy song
baka

>>66482829
They gave reasons why she was terminated and it was a lot of little things. That’s not slander because that would mean what they said was a lie. Her own statement corroborates most of it except the one part she did lie about in her statement that could get them in legal trouble. You could argue what the other members said was slander but your boss saying you were fired because of reasons other than your character isn’t slander

>>66483463
You don't know the Japs like I do.

>>66483509
God forbid a woman do anything

>>66483463
if nijisanji is actually capitalistic and profit driven, they would actually be a good corp.
sad thing is they are ran by spiteful high school children.

they are doing it literally to spite her

>>66482674
ketamine is one hell of a drug and makes you become a retard. ask elon

>>66480298
good riddance
apex is dead and the apex one trick streamer should die along with it

>>66483399
you call it stalking, I call it seeing truth for what the matter is. They can stay in complete ignorance, being fed suspicious information by a shady fucking corporation for all I care

>>66483702
That's actually a good point.

>>66483738
Chihiro is the Apex gamer of Niji, but she's actually graduating

>>66481215
Anycolour is in it for the money, and they are very open about it.
Even in JP only half a dozen members matter because they are the once keeping the fandom together, so niji most definitely fulfills any wish they have, which is why we have Kanae defending the company with "I get treated good so others don't matter" when other talents are bitching about the company on PL.
It's a mumbojumbo of Nijis toxic internal culture (autocracy, cliques, dog eat dog company) and external fandom (sisters being subhuman company bootlickers, the fandom being absolutely shit- which is why mysta left and vox became mindbroken).
They are reaping what they sowed, the talents (neither EN nor JP) never policing the management or defending their culture which made the company popular in the first place, and general profit driven approach of Anycolour.

>>66483738
a lot of games are dead (e.g. tetris) and people still managed to build a career off it
and selen is more than a one trick. she's grandmaster in OW too. she can pick up the next FPS easily if apex does die

>>66483366
>The problem is that they don't do much to nurture any talents that are outside JP
They don't really do much to nurture JP talents either. Biggest example would be Salome. She was a sensation when she debuted but then fell off hard because they didn't actually nurture her and because they had no real plan for her.
The ones that are established are already household names and too big, the rest are just fodder to keep the furnace burning. It's why so many of them are basically literal whos.

>>66483431
They do though, that's own vox and ike for fucking up. They live an 2 hours away from paris too.

>>66483636
are you the same fucking retard that brought up the same point the other day? They completely exaggerated many of the little things and the fact that you can't understand the real situation makes me wonder if you're even worth arguing with. Shut up, Niji-intern, you work for a black company.

>>66481089
nijicope

>>66482930
>She's been out and selling dokibird merch to cover
The plot thickens.

>>66483279
VSPO EN is dead in the water. We haven't heard shit of it in months.

>>66481373

nijiniggers still think the "NijiJP is doing fine" cope flies on vt

>>66483738
So true sister!
Its not like she barely played Apex on the last 2 months while finishing games like Mass Effect, Alan Wake 2 or Roboquest to name a few

>>66483934
Anon, I know what your parents and teachers tell you, but it's really not okay to be retarded.

>>66483427
pomu was on this years nijifes, she was there on 3D.

>>66480821
Because they want to terminate her ass and keep the majority of goons.

>>66481448
It is more likely that she had a panic attack because of all the shit management put her through, as well as losing 15k for nothing that's gotta hurt.

>>66483946
if you're a pussyhaver and good at apex, you would do pretty well on twitch even if you look like a goblin. no reason to give another company a huge cut. iirc vspo is brave, which is a pretty black company

>>66483372
Worst thing she did was say she was sponsored by dee’s nut. Regular person that’s a funny statement under a business that’s a funny lawsuit. Someone is itching to post the mr beast picture

>>66482417
If they understood that they wouldn't have tried to do it with zaion

>>66480298
Fuck Nijisanji.

>>66481448
>still sucking corporate cock
holy shit anon you're such a broken little redditor

>>66484032
I legit don't get your point, but since you clealy don't watch or know shit about anything, I'm not going to argue anymore.

>>66481003
It's 3 but Anycolor is still working out the problems Selen has with them. It's in their best interest to delay Selen's graduation for as long as possible while Pomu is doing her victory lap.
Even if Pomu wasn't graduating, it's still in their best interest to put time between the cover incident and actual graduation. If Selen graduates near her expected contract end date, it's easier to spin the narrative that Selen parted ways amicably despite butting heads.

>>66484042
Yeah, as a dude when I lost $20k I just got shit faced for 3 days and then made a plan and went back to work, I imagine women might have a mental break

Do you dramafags even care or are you just using this to rub your Holoboner over the idea of her joinning Hololive

>>66484035
i mean it worked on coco and rushia right? their fans evaporated and/or moved on to other holomems. they definitely didn't even retain even 1/10th of what they had

>>66482947
Although the MV was definitely alluding to them graduating, it was showing that they all ended things off in a nice way and that Selen was happy of her experiences and memories of NijiEN. At the rate it is going with Selen's suspension and possible termination, the MV is the least of anyone's worries.

>>66484220
>muh drama boogeyman
time to go back to r/nijicocksuckers redditard

>congratulations Selen you were our best liver for December 2023.
>btw we changed our mind, we are killing your project now that it is near completion
>we also decided to terminate you
Thhanks Nijisanji

Im still somehwat ok if pomu join holo. but please no selen.
she will forcing all the girls to join whatever project shes doing with da boiz. her being friend with tempoop also not helping

>>66483511
Dramatuber defender there’s always a couple in these threads. And they always pretend to be fans of hololive

>>66481373
Once Maimoto and Kuzuha graduates, it will be the start of Niji's Implosion. NijiJP is so fickle, it's only carried by 2 organ Livers.

>>66480298
See you around cowboy you will be missed

>>66484260
Thank for telling the truth

>>66484215
which shitcoin? apes?

>>66484174
the reason why that can't be the case is because pomu got to leave w/o the same amount of drama
there's no way niji only wants to keep selen but not pomu

>>66484283
i don't mind selen but i don't want to see more fucking apex or rope the other holos into playing that boring ass game

>>66484283
>she will forcing all the girls to join
You do know the girls who don't want to can just say no, right? Like they've done all this time?

>>66484138
Concession accepted. Hope you overcome your retardation someday though.

>>66484355
shorted(via options) SNOW when it was at $300, it went to $400. fml

>>66484220
I doubt they actually want Selen, they just like talking shit and feed on other people's misery.

>>66481785
They fired the last intern that actually speaks something vaguely resembling English, and are now relying exclusively on DeepL.

>>66484042
>losing 15k for nothing
What happened with this? I haven't been keeping up.

>>66483936
Did you read the statement? I mean the actual statement not what you think was on it

>>66484406
thats because they are still in a different company.
but there are a lot pressure to ignore if they are in same company

>>66484220
I don't want a ex niji in Holo, but I am glad that the world is opening their eyes to Nijisanjis absolute dogshit way of doing things, the company does not care about vtubing it's a lost cause I do not want them here.

>>66483399
RM tweets are all over X. I don't even follow her and those pop up in the "For you" tab all the time. You would think most people will put 2 and 2 together but I guess that's too much to ask for.

>>66481785
They are glad that they are getting rid of the drama magnet purple dragon

>>66484033
Yeah because they downsized the hell out of the number of people they were willing to send over, 2022 they tried doing like 10 livers from EN, this year they only did like 5 not counting the few EN members who already live in Japan

>>66480821
dont listen to these tards who know jack shit about this. it's not because her contract isn't up. most if not all contracts have a clause that nullifies the contract when certain conditions are broken. there is no communication because all the legal and paperwork is being filed and that takes time. It's ogre for sure within the next two weeks

>>66480298
AIEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
MILLIEMAGE MISSFIRED AGAIN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

>>66484271
Kek

>>66484489

>>66484431
Most I was ever down was 5k and that already made me depressed

>>66484337
Kill yourself you disgusting esl.

>>66484489
She spent $15k on making a music video that was taken down by management 2 hours after she released it.

>>66483186
And the award for missing the point the most goes to this bozo right here.
Maybe it wasn't suicide but Anycolor certainly pushed Selen enough in one direction to get her into a hospital.
>>66481478
While I agree that Pomu is likely one of the few with a backbone, I highly doubt Pomu's graduation had anything to do with Selen's incident.

>>66482763

>>66484550
You're misunderstanding me. I mean girls like Bae or Mori have probably tried to get the other girls who don't collab with homos or males to do so before but several of them have yet to collab with the homos or males. The ones who've said no before aren't any more likely to say yes just because it's Selen asking them if she's in the same company.

the absolute state of the NDF

>>66484489
>spent $15k on a music video
>management takes it down immediately after she uploads it, meaning she's never gonna make any money out of it

>>66482639
>discussion of Otakuthon
>pic from Anime Impulse
?

>>66484854
M-Maybe she made $15k off of Etsy

>>66483063

>>66484882
Read the second half of the post retard

Selen deserves this. She caused too much trouble for the company. If she wasn't such a drama queen she could've left peacefully like Pomu.

>>66484840
Doss Apex or VCR count as collabs?

>>66480298
>we would like to announce

>>66484220
We don't want your bargin bin organ livers, nijinigger. you fell to the shilling campaign of your own nijinigger kin, to give some value of your organ livers.

>>66484930

>>66480298
she'll come back and holobronys will seethe

>>66484811
>I highly doubt Pomu's graduation had anything to do with Selen's incident.
Pomu was already thinking on graduating but Selen's incident was the final straw. They are close (even as far as getting matching outfits despite being in separate waves). They're not part of the clique even, if you want to believe that rrat.

>>66480298
Interesting...

>>66484976
oh, nononononono, hahahaha

>>66480625
That would be based as fuck.

>>66485014
>holobronys will seethe
Rather than seethe I'd be baffled why she would continue to subject herself to the kind of treatment she's exposed to there.

>>66484271
More like;
>congratulations Selen you were our best liver for December 2023.
>So, does that mean I'll get more assistance with projects I want to organize?
>No. In fact, we're going to cancel your existing projects. Also, we're going to throw you down some stairs for that unauthorized song release.

>>66484739
>>66484751
>>66484854
Oh the cover she did. I don't know why I didn't think of that. Christ that's shitty. I didn't know she lost that much just because management apparently wanted to be vindictive assholes.

>>66484354
Or maybe just maybe Pomu has been working on this behind the scenes much longer than Selen? Maybe Pomu had thought about graduating for awhile now and have been working with them on the terms and the plans moving forward.
Whereas Selen after the incident decided enough is enough and relayed to them her intent, only for them to try to convince her to stay/ delay the inevitable.

>>66485139
It means she drank the koolaid and is a lost cause

>>66484597
Are you dumb or just acting? If you don’t know why would you do a deep dive into some random person’s twitter

>>66484930
another giftcard for you!

>>66485176
Nijisisters and the defense force will tell you otherwise saying it's completely her fault for this situation. Management can do no wrong!

>>66485014
Nah, i dont like selen but she doesnt deserve to be a NIJINIGGER lmfao. Even if shes a homocollaber, she should be allowed to do it somewhere in peace. I just wont watch her, but i dont want her to suffer at the hands of these disgusting gooks either. She seems nice.

I'm just here to laugh at the nijifags. Karma has for Aloe.

>>66484976
Freudian slip perhaps

>>66485176
See this is how you find tourists only here for drama. Songs don’t make money they almost always put you in the hole

>>66485389
Lol imagine the graduation notice
>We would like to announce Selen Tatsuki will no longer be part of NijiEN

>>66484489
>>66484854
It wasn't even designed to make money, it was meant to be an X-mas gift to her fans.
This is why she asked anyone who ripped it to reupload it themselves later and is very likely the reason she was suspended.

>>66485387
A year ago I was laughing at nijifags. At this point I just want the trainwreck to end.

>>66485346
>>66485387

>>66485506
cope harder retard

>>66480730
If you dont know that you are lying is not really a lie, its just wrong information.

>>66483973
Fuck, those numbers are bad for the 2nd largest company. Conforms with what I estimate 2434 to be anyway.

>>66485487

>>66483914
God can you imagine how fucking horrible it is for Salome.
>You only exist because we botted your debut. You're nothing. Yes you have hundreds of thousands of real subs now, but out brand created them. You're not important. You have no innate talent. We created you. We can destroy you. Now sign the 1% contract.

>>66482001
Dokibird (selens past life) twitter.

>>66480298
I hope she join Holo

>>66485535
>two people have different opinions!
>i better go huff more cum on reddit to reconcile this!

>>66485028
Pomu had already decided to graduate before Otakuthon in August. She was going to leave earlier but delayed it to after NijiFes.

>>66485506
i mean using your corpo owned character to tell people to break the law
they don't really need to try hard to find a justifiable reason to fire her

>>66483636
The problem is that a lot of what Zaion did was already done by other talents in the past. Now you could argue that it was because she made too many mistakes in a short span of time and didn't befriend management quickly enough to cover for her, and fair point. But it didn't really reflect good on NijiEN's management to throw her under the bus when they ultimately made the call to hire her, and they could've fixed it all by properly educating the talents on what to do and what not to do instead of being so hands off that they let the talents hurt their own image.

>>66485506
You are correct and at the very least a thread reader. Why does someone who knew they’d be losing money pity bait for money?

>>66482001
kill yourself newfag. you dont deserve to know.

>>66485444
>>66485506
Thank you for your service, a Google Play gift card and an extra ration of pagpag has been sent to your address

>>66485672
>MUH LAW
kek i bet you're scared to torrent music too you little spineless faggot

>>66485623
>EN "GAMERS" style gen made with the express purpose of absorbing Nijis that the existing HoloEN girls want to nepohire
Hey, it worked for HoloJP

>>66485589
If she's a no talent hack she should just sign, but if she has any creative spark in her she should've said no deal and stayed indie assuming she was active before Niji

>>66480821
I can't wait for them both to join HoloEN 4. And when her best friend Selen gets in, Mumei will finally decide to stream again. It will be fucking wonderful and I can't wait

>>66484220
I'm actually laying on my back watching the ceiling spinning rn. I don't want Selen to graduate. But I don't want her to be subjected to the torture of that company.

>>66485556
>>66485672
>>66485681
>>66485724
>Nijishill defense force has arrived

>>66485848
At least read the posts you reference you nijinigger retard.

>>66485444
But big song releases do encourage channel growth, views, and donations that could very well be worth more than the cost of the cover over time.

>>66485835
Imagine they move in together, Mumei doing stream and hear slight Selen laugh in the background and suddenly becomes an impromptu collab

>>66485835
their only connection was that selen commissioned mooms for artwork before and they were overwatch ethots during the same time period. they were not close at all

>>66485847
Better to rip the baindaid off now. The sooner Selen leaves, the sooner you can get adjusted to her new identity (assuming she joins another corpo). It worked for Nobuhime.

>>66485672
She also did something worse than that which is sell PL merch. It's one of the reasons Zaion was terminated. Yeah I'm sorry dragoons, but she's getting the boot and it's entirely her fault.

I want to alert motherfuckers that this anon called it, almost down to the exact wording of the tweet, less than five minutes before the announcement dropped.
>>66479812

>>66485986
>nobuhime
meeeeeeeeh. she was one of the first and biggest vtubers and now she's a tier 3 holo

>>66483914
Explain please what could the company have done?

>>66485589
You responded to him as if you were both in agreement but your statement is the exact opposite. He said she did it all on her own and the company didn’t help. You said the company did it all on it’s own and control her. Also Youtube bans you if bots come from your ip

>>66486034
that's not an excuse niji can use unless they want to funnel casuals to her PL.

>>66485681
Imagine you spent $1500 on a gift for a friend who means a lot to you, who lives overseas, so you FedEx it to them. But the plane carrying it has an accident and crashes into the ocean and is never found.
You're out the $1500 either way, but now it feels like a complete waste instead of being spent on making other people happy. Plus even if the friend was never going to pay you back the $1500 when they received the present, they still might tell all of their other friends how cool you are and that would have been nice too.

>>66481174
Yes, in the hospital after her ex-manager sent a literal hitman after her

>>66485968
Cope. They talked to each other often and have played games together off stream into the AM. You're so brain damaged by this board and your corpo tribalism you're making up lies to deny the truth

So, this makes me pretty certain that this isn't a stealth suspension. They wouldn't just pull her out of an event like this to teach her a lesson because it makes them look bad. I think Selen has legitimately given up on trying to make things work and is waiting out her contract.

>>66485659
Are you the retard who made this claim and tried to back it up with a 10-hour stream without timestamp, where she said nothing of the sort?

>>66486043
i mean the company is so dysfunctional 99% of them are unironically on this board. one of them must've thought it would be funny to leak stuff (again)

>>66485681
This whole narrative of "losing" money on the cover is insanity. She lost money the moment she commissioned everything that went into it. And since it's not intended for sale, the most she gets out of it is word of mouth/ impressions.
And going by history, Selen also has a habit of putting her own money into the projects she's interested in. So it's doubly weird she's calling this a "loss" when she barely stood to gain anything from the song if it was really supposed to be "for the fans".
You don't lose money when gifting someone. If she's worried fans won't have access to it, she's woefully naive that the cover hasn't already been archived by fans and shared with other fans seeking the cover.

>>66486034
Zaion did NOT sell PL merch. That screenshot was for fulfilling a PL giveaway

>>66486153
>They wouldn't just pull her out of an event like this to teach her a lesson because it makes them look bad
Every heavy-handed Niji management action has made them look bad ever since Zion.

>>66480298
She's just sick, you guys are thinking too much

>>66486140
>>66486232

>>66480298
>unforeseen reasons
PR needs some work

>>66486329
Even her words were "accident" you absolute tard

>>66485920
And one of her streams ending up on the trending tab could also do that. Want to know which is more likely?

>>66486265
Once again Niji corpo narrative slandering one of their own talents kickeing her to the curb dominates the hearts and minds of plebs.

>>66481215
Unironically he sees that the males get bigger numbers and sell more merch so he's finally doing what he should have done in the first place: turn this company into an all-male corpo.

>>66486067
You are completely retarded.

>>66485968
They literally auditioned together and both thought they made it into the same company.

>>66486232
>If she's worried fans won't have access to it, she's woefully naive that the cover hasn't already been archived by fans and shared with other fans seeking the cover.
only because she went out of her way to tweet about it. i'm a huge selen fan and I had to search hard to find it (at least before the algo picked it up for recommends due to the drama). the amount of people it reaches definitely mattered to her

how many suisei fan knows about Pieces? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vcAuvl17sRs or even her midnight grand orchestra stuff?
if it's not on the official channel, it might as well not exist for the casuals

>>66486067
>Explain please what could the company have done?
How about more than nothing for starters?

>unforeseen reasons
Come on niji intern, you could have at least said "health reasons" to keep your story consistent, do they pay 2% to their PR team as well?

>>66486140
At what point do you guilt that friend into sending you the money back? Because that’s my issue if everything had went off without a hitch would she have still did this

>>66480298
Not defending Niji but she was clearly hospitalized and is still recovering

>>66486152
Not that anon no.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lr1biAu9n5E Here's Millie talking about how it had already been decided before they met IRL.
https://www.youtube.com/live/AbskrKRYt9I?si=MSPd_m4I_LmAatZZ&t=35998 Here's the timestamp from the 10 hour VOD you were probably talking about, it's 9:59:58 if the embed doesn't work.

>>66485798
But how can she make this informed decision when her manager is the one who's telling her she has no talent

>NOOOOOOOOOOO YOU CAN'T BE SAD THAT YOU LOST 15K IT'S HER FAULT
they are going all out

>>66486153
Chigau anon, you underestimate how retarded and broken their management really is
>Selen you're suspended! No you can't anounce it, no we won't announce it either
>several days later
>Selen where tf are you you're supposes to be in the event...oh she's suspended? Who suspended her? We did, okay, just put out a tweet she won't be able to participate. Custom message? Nigga we don't got time for that, just use the template and fill in the blanks
>"We would like to announce that Selen will not participate..."

>>66486067
the company could cum inside your mothers asshole next time, and send you straight back to your reddit boards.

>>66485920
Oh, sorry. Didn't know that releasing a song cover gets you banned from appearing on the trending tab. Sorry, totally my badf there.

>>66486646
millie the bootlicking backstabbing bitch? that millie?

>>66482059
when you're nobodies you have to grovel and do a bunch of extra shit. Just cause some con paid out the ass for them to go physically once doesnt mean its always like that, 99% of the time it isn't

They're here

>>66486314
But this makes them look bad professionally. Pulling her out of an event like this doesn't just affect them. It also hurts their business partner. The notice even mentions how Anime Impulse is the one that is gonna be issuing the refunds.

>>66485986
I know it's best for her but Im still scared

>>66483527
>>66483531
that's even worse then. staying at a canadian hospital is a literal death sentence.

>>66486145
>source: because i said so

>>66482238
that's one silver lining I guess, not having to see those two retarded fucking hyenas braying at each other is a blessing

>>66480298
They could've typed "due to more recovery time needed" or something if she was in the hospital. They didn't.

>>66486727
That's the one yeah. I don't think this particular clip is defending the company at all, she's just saying that meeting Pomu IRL was sad because they both already knew she was graduating at that point.

>>66483527
Canadian here, thats false, fuck off you retarded redditor.

>>66486829
No, I actually watch streams. You should try it

>>66482292
shut up Millie, no one believes you anymore

>>66486835
They can't because they never acknowledged she went to the hospital, their managment is legit retarded

>>66486587
Fair point especially when you look at hololive. They put them on tv, get them sponsors, get them voice acting gigs in games, even collabs with fast food restaurants. Oh right Salome got all of this as well. Good thing I’ve been here longer than a week to see people post about it

>>66482441
holy fucking cope. I hope these are shill accounts, if any actual fans think this way they should just rope now

>>66486992
>Salome
Who?

https://youtu.be/L88r98G4YiM
https://youtu.be/L88r98G4YiM

>>66486835
I dont know if that speaks more to NijiEN's incompetence or more how they genuinely cant wait for Selen to leave fast enough. They really do want nothing more than a bunch of mindless automatons working for them, hell they probably cant wait for AI to progress fast enough to replace the EN talents.

>>66486905
That's what I paid when my appendix burst last year in Ontario. Maybe it's different in your province, buddy?

>>66486646
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lr1biAu9n5E
>She decided to graduate some time ago
>https://www.youtube.com/live/AbskrKRYt9I?si=MSPd_m4I_LmAatZZ&t=35998
>Initially I was thinking on doing it sooner but I really wanted to do Nijifes
>Nijifes: 22nd December 2023

Where do they mention anything about her graduating before Otakuthon in August? You are pulling as much shit out of your ass as that other poster (assuming you are really are NTA).

>>66487056
>322 views on another channel
Fuck Nijisanji.

>>66487071
You're full of shit pajeet, you cant even get a cyst lanced at a public clinic in this country anymore. Kill yourself.

KEK

>>66487107
>Where do they mention anything about her graduating before Otakuthon in August?
That's when Millie and Pomu met IRL, and the decision had already been made before that apparently.

>>66481949
VAs are too expensive, they'll just use one of those AI streamers with her voice pack

>>66486835
>>66486975
So instead of saying something vague they should’ve lied? I’ve finally been here long enough to start reading minds. I know what you would’ve said if they did lie

>>66485589
>And if you complain the next one will be 0.5%

>>66481448
my rrat is that she was suggested (forced) by management to post that picture on her pl account to calm down fans in exchange of not getting Zaione'd

>>66487181
>he's in FagEyeD's discord server
Anon you're are the biggest loser in this thread

>>66486681
Correct except for:
>We suspended her? Can we twist this so we can imply it's her fault? Oh right, no-one is supposed to know she's suspended. Ok, just make a vague twitter announcement instead.

>>66487181
Do you get paid for shitting up the catalog?

>>66487181
Anon, why the fuck are you on False's discord

Imagine if she graduates on Valentines Day

>>66487181
this is kinda embarrassing anon...

>>66487143
332 THOUSAND*, anon

>>66487181
>Dramafag discord
The absolute state of this board

>>66482417
Don't underestimate how retarded a Japanese company can be

>>66487056
desu it's not a good cover. selen needs to quit idolshit in her reincarnation

>>66486067
more than they did that's for sure. it was obvious they had no plan for her because even ibrahim said they needed to be careful with how they proceeded with salome. they weren't.

>>66487280
No matter how bad it gets at least I’m not that guy

>>66482744
What's the difference?

>>66485521
Whenever you feel that way
Just remember
ALL OUT WAR LMAO

>>66487056
i can see why it's 15k now. poor fucking mixer better have been compensated for the hell selen put him through

>>66487193
Motherfucker where does she say this particular meeting happened before Otakuthon in August? This could have happened at any point in recent weeks or months. Until you can post actual proof, this is an unsubstantiated claim, dumb fuck.

>>66487181
Why would you post proof that you're in a dramafag discord server? Are you mentally retarded?

>>66487181
>posting a screenshot from faggoteyed's discord server
unironically neck yourself

>>66487181
here's a (you). put me in the next vid

>>66487515
>>66486992

>>66487181
OUR LORD AND SAVIOUR

>>66487251
Matara finally breaking and crying on stream because she had gone years with people constantly telling her she was worthless was so hard to watch. And then dokibird tweeted the exact same language today.

The sisters really don't like False. I wonder why

>>66487746
strongest evidence that she got fired instead of quitting
selen needs to realize she has choices. poor girl

>>66487557
>>66487581
Because NIJISEETHE

>>66487755
They fear the nijislayer

>>66487746
It really makes you wonder if it was management, some livers, or both that said those things

>>66487538
Honestly she got scammed if you compare what holos pay for their shit.

>>66487869
Zaion said the managers would constantly tell them this

>>66487755
>The people really don't like CNN. I wonder why
...

>>66487807
Damn, his discord retards came in to do damage control FAST

>>66487709
and it wasn't enough, so they should've done more. they didn't.

>>66487755
>>66487807
SEAn*gger

>>66487933
holos get stuff done for them for free because people do it out of passion. if you had to hire dev and artists to build a game like holocure, it will easily cost several hundred thousands in salary. yet they paid 0!

>>66487746
She debuted in late 2021 and graduated middle of 2023. Best case scenario is 1.75 years which means, add 2 carry the 1, oh you’re a sack of shit. Send that to your discord

>>66487483
Yeah but it's a wakeup call for how crappy management can be with a copyright free song.

She's probably pissed they take it down and that's it period

>>66487755
>>66487807
>>66487840
total dramafag death

>>66488087
Use that gift card to buy a good quality armid rope and neck yourself nijinigger

>>66487869
Sayu outright said that management constantly gaslights the talent into believing they are far better of staying in the company than risk leaving

>>66488076
I wonder how many people could tell you don’t watch hololive dramafag. They pay in the thousands to hundreds of thousands for their music. She got scammed because it was shitty not because it was free. The game was developed by 1 person in under a year using the VS foundation why would it cost more than the original? And selen also has a game even if it’s shitty. Take this back to your discord

>>66488033
>>66488173
The nijinigger fears the falsechad

>>66487977
>>66488233
It's crazy that this is how they operate.

>>66480298
she ain't leaving, she got hurt and that is all, the simplest reason is often the correct one, selen won't leave

>>66488423
This is cope

>>66488413
The fact this happens and niji fans are okay with it is depressing

>>66488423
She did an overnight stay in a hospital and then went home and has been playing apex like 10 hours a day for the last 11 or so days

>>66487977
No she didn't.

>>66488639
I'm sorry you're right zaion was dead

Sayu said it

>>66488423
you seem to understand occam's razor
>selen's video gets removed
>selen gets hospitalized
how so dumb?

>>66488233
>gaslights
Anon, you'd be hard pressed to find any company that doesn't implant the idea that staying with the company is a good thing.
No one in their right mind is going to tell the employee that they're better off searching for other opportunities.
If you have a nice boss/ coworker, they'd probably tell you the truth on the down low but otherwise this is business as usual.
That said, belittling employees is another matter entirely. It's one thing to tell your employees how great it is within the company. It's another thing to tell them that they're worthless outside of the company.

>>66488076
This is actually one of many secrets to Holo's success. Fans carrying water for the girls won't show up in any financial statement but they're basically generating free marketing/exposure and content at no cost to Holo so it just seems like Holo is getting popular seemingly for no reason but it's mostly the fans spreading influence.

>>66488612
not 10 hours a day, but she's currently playing with nocturnal
https://apexlegendsstatus.com/profile/PC/Xset_nocturnal#S-match-history
https://apexlegendsstatus.com/profile/PC/Dokibirdo#S-match-history
she's too pussy to go live on his twitch tho

>>66481894
I really do think their whole ordeal boiled down to them seeing they're not getting nearly enough for what they have to do, asked if they could get an increase by next signing, were told no, then just put in their corpo card

>>66488233
1 Manager a gen, 1-2 head managers that speaks Japanese and English while in different country from all of them (Either Japan or SEA). To do that almost every day per person while ignoring the time difference takes dedication.

>>66488612
>Tell a lie, compound the lie, then pretend it’s the truth.
I tip my hat off to you discord fags but I’m not an idiot. She was in the hospital a minimum 3 days because she didn’t have her phone the first night, posted the second, and then stayed overnight for observation. Key word is MINIMUM though I doubt you know what that means

>>66487538
Can you elaborate? My unrefined ears / lack of knowledge can't figure out why the mixer for this cover suffered.

>>66488871
Homobeggars are disgusting

>>66488413
It just raises even further questions if this is what the company is like across every single branch, especially JP, or if this just an EN problem. Either way, it really is a perfect demonstration on why NijiEN fell apart so hard. Not only is management spread out handling multiple talents per person, but they also do not know how to properly support them, so they just guilt trip or try and instill fear in them.

>>66489254
Nta but he’s implying he made her not shit at singing. But if you’re serious about wanting to learn get some headphones listen to a song on yt then listen to it on yt music.

>>66489254
Selen sucks ass at singing, the arranger probably spent several sleepless nights fiddling with the autotune and pitch correct trying to make it hearable (and it shows)

>>66488871
Maybe for Magni, but Vesper was on the way out long before his 2nd suspension.

>>66489468
What’s the pay like I’m actually curious

>>66489720
Even though NijiEN has a lot of things to meme about like only getting 2% of revenue from merchandise, the money is basically the main reason why even Iluna talents stay on board. Scarle made a shit ton of bank, Aia made enough to pay off student debts despite a small audience, and Selen and Pomu probably made enough to turn their life around.

>>66489720
for selen, pay was fine. $422,518 over the last 2.5 years. They get 2% from merch so it's negligible so basically it's all from supas. 30% goes to yt, 50% of the remaining goes to niji, 30% goes to taxes.

tldr she probably kept nothing after "reinvesting" for that cover out of pocket. other less popular livers are probably in debt
https://playboard.co/en/channel/UCV1xUwfM2v2oBtT3JNvic3w

>>66487755
Amazing bait post 10/10 I kneel

>>66490082
Well, there's also memberships to keep in mind. Along with voice pack sales which they get a bigger split from. It definitely hurt, but I dont think it pushed Selen into bankruptcy either.

>>66490129
It's only bait if you are a nijinig

>>66489917
This.
Whenever the talents are asked to describe the things they like about Niji, none of them say friendship, or the fandom, or the culture, or any of that. They always just say "money". It's such a soulless thing.

Just gradute already ffs