/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

>>6629941
It's just not a good song.
Hinotori and Love Challenger easily hit a mil.

KFPs are a loud but very small group of mentally ill individuals

>>6629941
Trash song brings trash numbers anon. As simple at that

>>6629941
It's so sad that she has a milliom subscribers but not all of them have watched her song...

>>6630413
They really were pity subs afterall

>>6629941
After reading the lyrics to heart challenger I haven't listened to any of Kiara's songs.

>>6630016
''Even if you pour your soul onto something and work hard for it doesn't mean it's gonna be good, it might even be dog shit''

Calli

>>6630413
I know my own sub had more to do with wanting to catch any collabs with others that might show up only on her channel rather than any particular interest in her own stuff.

I liked Hi no Tori and thought Heart Challenger was cute (though not that good) I gotta say I absolutely hate how Sparks sounds.

>>6629941
Please stream shart challenger!

SPARKS although good is too normie for most vtuber fans

I'm sub to Kiara but I never watched or heard a single song she made or covered. Love her zatsus tho

>>6630016
Its Love Conqueror, get it right

>>6629941
I blame Irys. That stupid fucking timer stole Kiara's birbday viewers who were supposed to stream Sparks.

KFP jumped ship

>>6629941
imagine having the reach that kiara does and even after literally begging non-stop for two weeks straight for people to watch and advertizing your song by replying to literally everyone you can (even when the context doesnt make sense to reply), you still only get half your subs in views.

>>6631548
and then imagine chumbuds gettin double gura's subcount in views when she doesn't even advertise it

why are holoen trannies so obsessed with numbers ?

>>6631525
Typical KFPshart. Blaming others for his oshi's failures.

>>6631688
Lol. Like you wouldn't be going ballistic if the same thing happened to your oshi.

>>6629941
The song is simply not that good.

>>6631713
Everyone's not a numberfag like you and your oshi.

>>6629941
Kiara needs to drop this pop idol style and focus on the lore, Imagine if her songs where epic ''past life'' stories people draw her with medieval knight outfits all the time

>>6631774
You might not be but you can cherry pick from any girls fanbase. They all have their numberfags. Cherrypicking and calling them something like a "typical KFPshart" just makes you look like an idiot.

>>6631790
Still shit if she keep using that chimkin voice of her

>>6631846
Anon the reason people make fun of spark IS because kiara numberfagging about it. Other girls arent as desperate as she is and will celeberate whenever it hit 1mill. It doent have to get 1mill in a week or something like how kiara wants her song to be

>>6631949
>people

>>6631980
>cope
>seethe

>>6629941
2 words, dead subs. Seeing a member in 5 people group with one less digit subs will make people uncomfortable so they just pitysubbed her.

>>6631980
>>people
do you really think its so inhuman to make fun of someone for acting so childish and pathetic online for all to see?

>>6629941
>The Kpop aesthetic, which actually has much less crossover with the Hololive audience than one might think.
>The voice she's pulling doesn't fit the music
And this is the most important one:
>The melodies are blueballed several times in the song
For instance here, the second chorus:
https://youtu.be/Lq9eqHDKJPE?t=116
Why are you stopping it midway? Ruining the flow of the song to... shake things up? Make a distinction between the third and the last chorus? Trash.
>ridiculously generic lyrics/subject that don't have the blessing of being obscured by the language barrier, and just weird parts in general:
"Everybody's gonna know your NAAAame...? *awkward pause that saps the songs energy*
The beat itself has a lack of creative effort (but not effort in general) in it. It feels like either an inexperienced producer tryharding, or an experienced one phoning it in.
The above are just my criticisms as a Kiara shitposter, what have caused me to click off the song partway and what I feel may deter less invested fans from giving it another play. It's still my favorite song of hers though. I listen to it every now and again.

>>6632481
您认为您的美国人是如此艰难吗? 只是因为我不能批评我的政府并不意味着我被压迫了。 您以乔·拜登的形式担任文学法西斯总统。 您的孩子被关在笼子里。 最重要的是,美国人民正在退化,种族混合和吸毒,并且互相排斥,这是对社会的整体伤害。

>>6632525
I don't read insect, zhang.

>>6632525
自分を殺

>>6632525
Que dice el puto este?

>>6632592
zhang's actually being based for once. basically called him a retarded american who lives in a society equally fucked as china just for different reasons

>>6629941
>comparing a week old song to a 3 week old song

OP you need to try harder than that

>>6632752
Gura hit a million in 10 hours so no I don't.

>>6632752
I mean, in his defence, it took Reflect less than half a day... and got to 2 million before the 24 hr mark...

I'm not a Kiara anti but i have never made it more than 5 seconds listening to any section of that song. Sparks is REALLY bad

>>6630413
Kiara has 1 million subs and fewer views on her song, Gura has 3 million subs and more than twice that on her song

Imo, Sparks is far better than her previous two songs. The lyrics and chicken voice still ruin it though. It’s a shame such good art and video editing went to waste on this.

>>6629941
I'm an egg, supposed to have her living rent-free in my head, and even I haven't listened to it yet.

>>6632958
Based and same

>>6632958
i probably would have listened to it if she wasnt so desperate about it

>>6632934
I wonder if Kiara realizes the tragedy, that there are people who may like everything about her and appreciate effort , but hate the fake-character voice she stubbornly continues to use for her songs.

>>6632860
I wish Gura would just ask all her subscribers to listen to Kiara's song so that it hits at least 3M immediately.

>>6633412
if you think kiaras obnoxious on twitter, i can only imagine what guras dms are like "PLEASE TWEET ABOUT SPARKS"

I've listened to every Holo EN song but Kiara's songs are too poor to finish.

>>6633512
too bad gura doesnt use twitter

>>6629941
if it wasnt kpop shit, maybe...

>>6632481
she should just sing in a made up language like gura. reflect is an absolute banger

>>6633809
>made up language
Anon.. please at least finished middle school before u surf the net

>>6630016
not kfp but the song is really good actually

>>6633886
every language is made up u dumb nigger

>>6633955
Ogey retard

>>6629941
>shameless self shill in the middle of the mv
are you fucking kidding me how desperate can you be

Maybe Kiara should just run ads for Sparks so it can get more pity views. Even mainstream kpop does it to pad their numbers.

>>6633997
She's shilling it everywhere and forcing KFP to do the same but the song just doesn't have the charm or maybe it's her voice.

>>6634118
Why doesn't anyone ever tell her to stop pushing it so hard

I like sparks, i think it's cool and i like the voice, if kiara didn't beg on twitter i wouldn't have listened to it, didn't even notice it came out since i don't watch her much.

>>6630016
Hinotori was vapid, generic trash. Sparks is solid

>>6629941
>reflect doesn't even have an MV
maybe Kiara should focus on the damn music first

>>6633809
Unironically i prefer pop songs I can't understand the lyrics to. Pop song lyrics are cringe. Kiara should do a german track

>>6629941
ONLY the KFP listen to her song.
btw Stream SPARKS faggot

>>6629941
If only Kiara had Gura's voice, it would easily hit a million views and more.

i'm constantly impressed by the eggs' ability to make the same topic and make the same posts every day.

>>6634347
>IRyS and Gura release a SPARKS cover
kiara....

>>6634347
i kinda like kiara's voice i think it fits more, but it is an acquired taste

>>6633032
desu

Bros, it's been a week and Kakero isn't at a million yet.
www.youtube.com/watch?v=9FAjJP5um9c
Do Hoshiyomi not love Suisei anymore?

>>6634523
I can't believe you would try to detract from Kiara's thread when Sparks already doesn't get that many views. She needs all the publicity she can get.

>>6633412
>>6633512
Kiara would literally cry on stream if she reaches big numbahs with pity views

>>6634744
fucking hell orange woman do you want views or not

>>6633412
Didn't Gura have it playing in the background on her AC stream?

>>6633762
She's too based for twitter, only uses it to look at her cunny fanart.

>>6634814
you have to beg her to accept your views, anon

I hope IRyS covers it and gets higher views

>>6634853
yeah but no one would notice that. also that stream was all about gura singing reflect for the first time

>>6629941
The Kira guy hard carries that song. The autotuned chicken voice is really really bad.

It's otherwise inoffensive lyrics wise. Sounds like the credits to one of those high school Disney movies. I can play it on the speakers at my job and the customers like it

I'll be honest, I don't WANT to listen to her song, I just want to shit in her mouth

>>6634523
so sad that shitters like kiara get views when actual good songs like this dont. kfp fags are retarded

>>6635054
This but Gura too

>>6634911
that would be too epic

>>6629941
Hey, instead of arguing about which one to listen to, why not listen to both at the same time!!!
https://files.catbox.moe/28ccdt.ogg

>>6635244
i couldnt get past 5 seconds of either of them desu

>>6634911
>I hope IRyS covers it and gets higher views
I don't think IRyS will do this, just for that reason that it might offend Kiara. She's too soft and I fear she might get impostor syndrome eventually like Gura.

>>6630982
not hate in my case, but it really doesn't hit as hard as those or even Goodbye Declaration, thought that one's a cover, no?

>>6630435
oof

>>6634911
If anything, Kiara would like it. It's more promotion for her song.

>>6632934
What does c'hicken choice' mean?

>>6635649
The fake voice she keeps on using

>>6635513
nah, Kiara always looks at the negative side of things, she'd hate it.

>>6629941
I pity click it. The song is decent. Arts is top notch. I think I will just mute and enjoy the arts.

>>6630467
I Never listened to any Kiara songs after Hinotori. What's the reason for this

>>6634911
Kiara would hate it because eventually someone will say Irys did it better and that would upset her alot.

>>6635746
nah, she'd be glad someone bothered to cover her song

>>6631980
Anon you are being fucking pathetic consider killing yourself

>>6633165
This

>>6633165
I listened once, but it's just not going into my chuuba playlist with other, better songs of hers

>>6629941
Sparks is cute but not my cup of tea.
>t. KFP

>>6632669
>>6632525
>只是因为我不能批评我的政府并不意味着我被压迫了。
>Just because I can't critisize my government doesn't mean I'm oppressed
Yeah, no

>>6636243
is he wrong though? can americans criticize their government? apparently we cannot, unless our politicians allow it.

>>6629941
I like Kiara but absolutely do not like her music

It'll be worse when IRyS steals her KFP

>600k almost 700k is bad
/vt/ is more retarded than usual

>>6637520
It's bad to Kiara

Because Gura isn't shoving it down everyone's throat. The way Kiara promotes her stuff may be annoying but it gets the job done.

serious question to KFP,
when's the last time kiara actually complained about numbers?
i've watched some of her recent streams and she hasn't mentioned them once.
maybe in a members stream?

>>6637688
check her tweets

>>6636370
Heart Challenger was pretty meh but SPARKS is actually kind of cool to be honest.

>>6629941
>>6630435
I muted the video and let the video play in the background to give her 1 view

>>6637578
Except she hasn't complained about anything and only joked about it? She has explicitly and quite literally said that there is no problem with her numbers and yet this retarded bait thread always takes off anyway.

>>6637779
If you like Sparks, check out the one who produced it, Kira. His music all sounds like this so you'd probably find something else you like.

>>6637836
She sure shoves it down everyones throats every chance she gets though for someone who has no problem with her numbers

>>6637717
i've looked at them, theres zero numberfagging. just tweets about that convention, stream stuff, fan stuff.
the only ""numberfagging"" was her happy that sparks hit 500k.
is "stream sparks" really numberfagging?

>>6630435
kek kfp destroyed

>>6637836
Why do you expect /r9k/ to actually know what the fuck they're talking about? This nigger >6637889 literally doesn't understand the "Stream" meme/purposefully ignoring it for his fag point. If you're gonna reply at leas s*g* the thread

>>6636243
What's the big difference between not being able to say it and being able to say it to no effect? At least the chinese government is not selling China bit by bit to it's main competitor.

Taiwan is a sovereign state btw.

>>6637973
i remember reporting this guy lmao. he was pretending to be kiara's twitter and he spammed roommate stuff at her.

>>6634911
that would break the narcissistic whore, yeah

>>6637836
>Except she hasn't complained about anything
someone post the streamable to end this cuck

>>6637973
>hiding username from this very real conversation between kfp and an anti
lel dont wanna expose the usernames from kfp discord now, would ya?

>>6637973
the absolute state

>>6638161
Why are you so retarded anon?

these kiara anti threads are lower quality than usual.
theres usually the dox images and a bunch of /pol/fags explaining why she should graduate. now theres just threadwatchers posting month old stuff and pretending like she had bad viewership.
these shitty newfag kfp vs discord kid threads and even more pointless now. i never visit threads outside of /hlgg/ and now i never will again.

>>6637889
Its a meme and its not like there is anything wrong in promoting a song. Besides, if you're talking about mentions outside her streams, other people mentioned it first and joked about it several times too.
>>6637973
I don't, but I do think there are people gullible enough to believe this bullshit even though they don't watch the streams.
>>6638079
Oh, wow, how scary anon, its not like I am a member and watched it live.

>>6637836
>>6638079
https://streamable.com/eu65qz

>>6638210
you can run your gay little ops all you want, but antis will never like kfp and everyone around you will not clap. this has never happened and will not happen in the future for the simple reason that antis are vindicated by kiara's behavior every step of the way.

this is why its easy to spot
>I used to hate kiara but I regret it now after talking to kfp
how old are you guys?

>>6638235
>complaining about /pol/ for no reason which is offtopic
>likes cover moderated /hlgg/
>no true kfp theory
want me to guess your politics? and if I may be bold, your gender?

>>6638486
in the clip she literally states that numbers aren't the issue and that the real problem is that cover is retarded.
are you mentally retarded?

>>6638611
>numbers arent the issue guys, also fuck cover and irys for getting me less numbers
LMAO

>>6638636
but is she in the wrong for complaining about it?

>>6638611
>He thinks numbers weren't the issue
KFP really are the dumb ones. She won't fuck you bro

>>6629941
It's a weak song, Hinotori is still her best

>>6638636
>Literally putting words in her mouth
>>6638517
>Literal schizo ramblings

Why not just do reps and not obsess over someone you hate all day? I'm doing reps right now for example. This is why Kiara can draw and sing and speak fluent jap and english for example, she did reps lol. Or do you just wanna stay a virgin like >>6637973

For people that despise and hate Kiara you sure love to spend your whole day discussing her and watching her streams to find bad things about her.
Just admit it. You love Kiara.

>>6638486
>>6638079
She is not complaining about numbers, retards. Its about production problems and internal management restrictions and policies. Maybe you oughta read what I was replying to. Or maybe take a look at the entire retarde context of this stupid thread.

>>6638712
I love pacifiers.

>>6638659
of course, when you argue that you dont care about numbers and complain about numbers, you're a hypocrite.
notice I dont give shit to cumbuds who actually agree they numberfag time to time.
she would've been allowed to complain if she didnt pretend to be a moral authority on how good she is. same reason /hlgg/ is getting shit on for complaining about cover when they spout UNITY whenever kiara gets kicked rightly kicked on the mouth.
you're just pretending to be good and getting exposed.

for example, take this redditor from /hlg/ >>6638712 he is clearly mad but he wants to pretend he's above it by saying this thread doesnt matter but for some reason, he's here damage controlling. hypocrites. just like certain group of people pretending to be a gender which is impossible for them to be and complain about offtopic boards.

>>6638811
>/hlgg/*

6638811
>redditor from /hlg/

>/hlg/
>liking kiara
You typed all of that just to say you're a newfag

>>6636312
Americans shit talk the government on the daily. We even make fun of them worse than what the Chinese did to Xi Yinping. But this is off-topic, so I will leave it at that.

>>6637520
Anon, most people on this side of the VTuber sphere is used to everything doing retarded big numbers because the vast majority of people didn't watch VTubers before 2020. Our standards are unrealistically high because Gura basically did a masterclass in speed-running milestones of any kind.

Kiara herself is the worst offender on this though, since she should be aware of the issue and should always sandbag and manage expectations so that she (and the audience) doesn't end up disappointed when things don't go the way it was planned. If I was at Cover I would be contacting her and telling her to stop nnumberfagging because she doesn't know how to go about it in a way that's non-toxic to both her and the audience.

>>6638751
>She is not complaining about numbers

>>6629941
>STILL hasn't hit a million
the world is unfair

>>6629941
>STILL can't stop thinking about Kiara
I think you might have a problem OP

>>6638811
Based.

>6638849
>gets destroyed in content
>gets destroyed in argument
>typo so you lose
want me to guess your politics? and your gender? why are you so scared of my answer?

ITT: kiara anti's in denial
you love kiara

>Paragraph posting about someone you don't like
What the fuck is wrong with you? Unironically touch grass

>>6634256
Hinotori has a way better melody than Sparks. Sparks is just no catchy.

>dont destroy me and my oshi for being hypocrites, vt
:)
we made Ina hit 1M and broke your oshi. I think we know her better than you.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lq9eqHDKJPE
I personally listened to SPARKS - Takanashi Kiara (Official Music Video) and you should listen to it.

>>6629941
She nerfed herself with the endurance stream.

>>6638949
>we

>>6638949
>we
>broke
>your oshi
>you

>>6638486
Not quite in touch with Kiara stuff. What was she trying to insinuate here by saying she doesn't feel supported? Did Cover screw her over somewhere?

>>6638980
yes
>we
do you know where you are?

>>6638611
>No no its not about the views, its not abou, its not, i mean, its, i..i, hnnnnnnn uh, no! Its not about the views

Sure fucking sounds like its the numbers

>>6639008
>Cover doesn't support the girls
But even that's just assumption, so newfags and SEAniggers (ex this thread) make up any rrat with it

>>6639008
She's just seethin IRyS's debut took her sparks numbers

>This thread
They're literally in shambles since the doxxcord was taken down huh

>>6639008
shes talked about this before on stream
cover does not provide any resources or money or help at all when they make original songs. i think suisei had a similar rant a while back.
she was throwing some shade at cover in how they then go and provide IRyS with a (probably )several hundred thousand dollar MV.

>>6639008
everyone was given announcement that this is going to be a new member announcement. mori and gura mentioned that they knew for a week and changed their schedules based on it.

kiara is acting like this announcement came out of nowhere and blindsided her which made her song underperform.
I think she knew the song was shit and released it during irys announcement so she might have an excuse if the numbers get low OR she really wasnt told about this important bit of info by her manager or cover. both are hilarious.

>>6639027
>>6638949
>we

>mori and gura mentioned that they knew for a week and changed their schedules based on it.
Source: Another thread

>>6639123
>she was throwing some shade at cover in how they then go and provide IRyS with a (probably )several hundred thousand dollar MV.
sora should throw shade at cover for giving the new gens more support which she or their generation didnt get when they started out.
wow.

>>6639134
Cover LITERALLY doesn't tell talents about new debuts you dumbfuck nigger

>>6639095
>KFP think all the people that dislike Kiara are the same ones from some shitty discord. It's impossible that others dislike her
Holy mental illness

>>6639134
Jesas you all can't be this fucking retarded

>>6639095
>taking down supporters of takamori for us
thank you kfp

>>6639194
Condolences about your discord. It must feel terrible.

>>6639134
>kiara is acting like this announcement came out of nowhere and blindsided her which made her song underperform.
Kiara straight up talked about knowing of IRyS' announcement and having even talked to IRyS before it on stream.
What blindsided her was the countdown, but that doesn't seem to be her main issue either.

>>6639232
>The doxxcord
>Supporting Takamori
You're trying WAY TOO HARD

>>6639194
I mean, the discord is gone now so i guess the antis are technically no longer "from discord" anymore.

>>6639235
Ain't beein in no shitty discord you conspiracy nut. Not everyone is one of those dox faggots

>>6639232
All I've seen from the doxxcord about Takamori is that they cannot fathom it being a mutually agreed thing and some whining about the Nigger of Japan being some poor victim.

>>6639258
does it matter why men larping as women get a reality check?
thank you if you had anything to do with this btw. I honestly mean that.

>KFP really believe everyone who dislikes Kiara is from discord
KEK

>>6639008
Its about support and production, too much restrictions, too little help. It gets tiring producing songs in Hololive.

>>6629941
Cause her fanbase isn't the same as calli. Her fans are mostly hardcore weebs and the song is in English

>>6639327
Obvious not. Same way in how everyone who hated Coco isn't a chink.
However, a normally person would just ignore her.
The fags who spam these threads every other hour and write schizo essays on how she's secretly an evil person trying to destroy Hololive and spam roommate stuff at her twitter and 100% from those shitty discords.

>>6639396
>calli

>>6639410
>Responding seriously to the person you literally describe in your post
Why?

>>6639416
Short for Calliope Mori

>>6639416
Calli

I haven't listened to either

>>6639446
The people who post in these shit threads unironically take this shit seriously so i might as well too.

>>6638486
>I don't know if I want to put effort into making songs anymore
But Kiara didn't even write the lyrics and didn't produce any of it? What effort does she mean, does she mean just paying for it? She keeps saying she put too much work into it but she didn't write a single lyric apparently.

>>6639410
>However, a normally person would just ignore her
the chuubas arent normal, their fanbase isnt normal, the people who dont like them are also not normal.

everyone is in the same gutter here, we just accept and enjoy it while you pretend to be something better when you arent. this is why these threads will always be a constant to remind you that you still are in the same league as the ones you hate.

>>6639410
didnt most 4chan posters hate the reddit dragon before graduation announcement and even post chinese shit or was that just on /jp/?

>>6629941
Sparks needs a better mix really. it's a good track, but the production is a bit all over the place
with a bit of work it'd be a slamming eurotune

>>6639489
>people who post in these shit threads unironically take this shit seriously so i might as well too.
>so i might as well too.
kfp is mad that her girl isnt liked on a thread on a mongolian weaving forum?
just how pathetic are you faggots?

>>6639494
the MVs and stuff probably cost more than you think and finding the people must be frustrating and tiring otherwise she wouldn't be having this issue.
also after the rant she played fall guys, got happy again, and then talked about making future songs again so the rant was pointless i guess.

>>6639525
We hate everyone except whoever our oshi is

>>6639575
>We

>>6639548
>kfp is
*are
also my cute indie threads get pushed off to page 10 because of these threads so i kinda care when you retards spam this shit

>>6639575
why do redditors find this hard to digest? I will never get it. they just cant handle slightly different opinions.

>>6639585
We

Welcome to 4chan comrade

>>6639595
>also my cute indie
no you dont, if you liked your indie, you would be watching her and if it dies make another thread. not defending an attention whore who cries when she reaches 1M last.
who do you think you're fooling kfp? when you pretend to be from other fanbases to add legitimacy to your arguments?

>>6639566
Yeah I know she paid for it, but she keeps saying "I put so much work and effort into it" when she didn't write a single lyric or produce a single portion of the song. It's just weird phrasing I guess.

>>6639525
Most of the people posting chink shit are baiting. It's 4chan.

>>6629941
>STILL hasn't hit a million
well Kiara... why do I have to search your upload videos to see it rather than it be the first recommended video when you enter your channel?

>>6639599
Tbf if 4chan had a upvote and downvote system it be completely different here

>>6639644
im starting to think that kfp live in your head more than kiara herself does lol

>>6639673
4chan without censorship wrecks any progressive or sjw argument every day. no need for point system when we know we are right.
the only reason redditors are able to congregate is due to jannies also being compromised who throw out subjective bans when their feelings get hurt.

>>6639726
you still havent answered what you're doing here when you have an indie to follow/discuss/make threads about instead of defending an attention whore who cries when her juniors get much needed support for their debuts.
do you want to answer that or keep deflecting kfp?

>>6639761
why do you keep calling me "kfp"
kfp is the fanbase name. call me Chicken.

>>6639786
>still no answer
dont pretend to be from other fanbase next time and you wont get called out

don't mind me, just posting to hit bump limit

>>6639730
Ohhh dont get me wrong I wasnt saying it should have one I was just pointing it out

>>6639826
>other fanbase
*fanbases

i like chimkin

Autism needs a cure

>>6639854
ye you're right, I was expanding on it
its obvious which side uses discord and are from reddit and its not the side that cries about hitting 1M last

>>6629941
Reflect sounds like shit lol

>>6639761
Not anon but have you niggers ever thought what it feels like when you leave /vt/ for more than 2 hours and half the fucking catalog turns fucking orange with dozens of posts in each threads?
It just makes kfp, antis, whoever the hell make those look absolutely desperate and pathetic. Everyone on this board already knows kfp are a bunch of the most defensive bastards accumulated in a single fanbase, but spamming Kiara threads doesn't prove crap besides her being the one stuck in OP's head.

>>6639867
NTA but even ironically how can you possibly enjoy acting like this much of a faggot

>>6640022
>best singer cute and funny!!!lol
worst fucking fanbase

>>6640080
nope. what website do you think you're on? this behavior should be expected

>>6640080
I really think you underestimate how much effort antis put into making these threads.
I myself started a few threads with constructive criticism about kiara, left it for the day and came back to find it still being bumped by kfp till 300.
when you have such an insecure fanbase like that, anons will hit all their buttons

>>6632860
But "muh dead subs" argument

>>6640080
>He uses spilts

>>6632860

>>6640234
Making 6 of basically the same thread isn't effort, it's schizo in numbers.

>>6640395
>same thread
according to who? you kfp?

>>6640424
> according to who?
Jannies would think otherwise, they snapped 4 at the same time

>>6640489
Anal sex fag

>>6640489
>Jannies would think otherwise
>why cover interns censor
yeah why would they do that? surprising

I don't like her singing.

>>6639646
Its not weird phrasing. What you're saying is that she didn't had to do "manual labor", but what she had to manage still counts as production and is in fact more aligned with what a producer has to do. She had to verify if the pieces of the whole fit together and form a coherent image and I am sure she pitched in too give her suggestion on what could be done better and why, because she already told us she does that and tries to work alongside the people she is paying to make something good. There was probably a lot of back and forth between Kiara and multiple people, between deciding who fits her vision, negotiating how much they're gonna be paid, how they're gonna do their work, work out deadlines to make sure everything is done and ready when it needs to be and checking up on the work of everyone. Honestly, you could even say her part in this was the most stressful of all considering all that.

>>6630016
I like this song

>>6640685
why isnt she happy cover is now in a better place to support their talents so they did just that with irys?
In a similar way how sora and gen0 etc were happy for cover supporting and publicising sankisei heavily because thats when they gained the tools to support the talents.

dont you think even subconsciously irys will feel she doesnt deserve it if kiara keeps crying about cover support?

Kiara put in a lot of hard work hiring a lyricist and producer to do everything for her. Please show support!

>this cope

>>6641204
What's the female equivalent of autofellatio?

>>6641204
>Liking her own post
Cringe

>>6640663
What, you don’t like 3 minutes of Lois Griffin mumbling stilted inspirational phrases over a k-pop beat? Get outta here you fucking egg!

>>6641204
fuckin' hell
that's insane
>her channel
>pins her post
>likes it
>on the video you're pushing
WTF

>>6630042
We watch vtubers. Who the fuck here ISNT mentally ill?

>>6641970
Everyone that isn't a purityfag along with watching vtubers

>>6641970
>we
I don't watch this shit, I'm here for the rrats

>>6641970
How the hell is watching live streamers a sign of mental illness? The only real difference is that Vtubers use a Avatar instead of a Facecam or Lack thereof. And the only difference between is a Vtuber Avatar and a Youtuber avatar is that it moves.

>>6629941
rent free

I gave it a pity listen.
I think I avoided listening to it because of how pushy and desperate she seemed. It's not that bad. Just that it sounds like a mixture of Kpop and techno, and Kiara's voice is that cutesy character voice auto-tuned to death. Though I do not like the voice, the saving grace is that the beats are an earworm.

>>6640850
How can you so retarded that you just can't see that Kiara being happy for her fellow coworkers has nothing to do with her being happy for herself? Kiara is happy IRyS is here, she is even trying to help her and wants to make a suitable atmosphere for her to be in HoloEN specially because she is alone. She has demonstrated support and happiness over IRyS a bunch of times already, the only reason you retards are still trying to force this bullshit take is because you guys want Kiara to be a jealous bitch, because you want to confirm that she is one. How clear does "it has nothing to do with views, numbers, IRyS or Vsinger" have to be for you retards to get that? How much shit does Cover have to do for you to stop trying to lick their balls? For fuck's sake, Coco just left Hololive because she was tired of Cover's bullshit and when someone brings up being tired over similar reasons that cannot be further explained because of contractual issues you retards act like its nothing and its something else. If Cover's bullshit one day makes your osshi graduate, I hope you remember each and every single time you tried to save face for them, even if your only reason to do so is to shit on someone else.

>>6643943
>How clear does "it has nothing to do with views, numbers, IRyS or Vsinger" have to be for you retards to get that?
actions speak more than words, this is even more true when women are involved.

Eggs dom't understand she did not complain about the numbers she knows they are 'ok'. She complained about not feeling supported.
Oh no she has to put in work into her songs. Boohoo...

>>6644088
if you take women at their word, that's probably a big reason as to why you're here in the first place.

>>6644063
Can you cope harder, anon? What would this "action" even be? Helping IRyS feel welcomed and more comfortable and even planning collabs involving her before she even debuts?

>>6643783
if you find watching others more enjoyable than living your own life it means your life is shit. you can't be in good state mentally if your life is shit. yes, this extends far beyond the scope of vtubers.

>>6634523
This ones kinda a moot point. This one got put on the topic channel cause it went through publishers. No one saw it, and it won't get recommended to anyone. Youtube does it on purpose to punish people that put their music on other platforms. Retarded petty system and Susan should neck herself for it.

>>6644442
I know that, but how does watching streamers specifically indicate that? It's pretty much the same level as watching TV or a Let's Play or something .

>>6642060
Can we vote to exterminate Goslings

>>6644847
correct, watching TV for any significant amount of time also indicates mental problems.

>>6635737
I still can't understand why she keeps trying to go with it's not. it's not moe, not funny. Almost like she thinks it's the 9nly thing special about her...

it’s because she keeps shamelessly promoting it to the point where it’s annoying, the song isn’t even that good it even sounds like that leage of legends song

>>6639159
Lurk more, watch streams

KFP don't actually exist. They're all shitposters trying to get a rise out of anon by pretending to be fans of an insufferable vtuber.

>>6644691
No, it gets recommended along with Suisei other originals, it’s just on a different channel so you need to be purposely looking for her music to find it. The MV is coming out later this month and will replace the topic version in the search results soon enough, much like the Ghost and Bluerose MVs.

>>6641970
This unironically, everyone who posts in this website on a daily basis is messed up.

>>6649518
And that's a good thing. People without mental illnesses need to get the fuck out. Normalfags are the worst kind of poison imaginable.

>>6649700
You were bullied alot huh

>>6645431
You got my vote

>>6650517
Nope. I was friends with the bullies, although I wasn't one myself. Normalfags ruining everything they come into contact with is a greater truth even than objective facts. It is a universal constant.

>A song so high pitched that it hurts to listen to.

>More autotune than anything I've ever listened to in my life.

Pretty garbage song, that's why.

>>6650793
I'm not sure what to say. I got a few normie friends. There not into the same stuff as me past gaming but there cool guys and fun to hang out with. I just dont think all normies are bad

>>6629941
rent free

>>6634523
Because hoshiyomi fucking bought the song on streaming services instead of listen to yt topic anon-kun..

>>6638023
Let's say you're a faggot, which you definitely are. Me, outright calling you a faggot doesn't change anything. Is that the same as imprisoning me for calling you out as a faggot?

I listened to it once in Spotify, it is about one more listen than 99% Hololive songs, I don't give 2 shits about idol music.

>>6639123
Nigga it's not some new knowledge. No agency in this industry will fucking fund you for ur personal songs. It's the same as saying why cover didnt buy me a game i want to play? Why cover didnt buy me a console i want? It's retarded and im pretty sure kiara already know this.
>suisei
Suisei case was justified since she was under INNK AS a VSINGER, a chuuba that SUPPOSED to get supported on their music making like IRyS. INNK didnt have the source to provide suisei at the times hence why she got transferred to Hololive AS an ordinary chuuba.
Kiara should already know about personal project get funded personally and she still complaint about it. Calli make a whole album out of her own pocket and you never heard lack of support from her SINCE she knows it's her own project.

>>6634174
her voice? a random bloke already lowkey critisize her voice with an sc back then when she still new. i forgot her excact answer, basically she answer with a non-answer 'i need to do it because reasons i cant explain blah blah'.
there is a rrat that in the past, she had a job that needed her to talk to people so she faked her voice to avoid doxxing.

>>6629941
I do, but I listen to it on Spotify, not Youtube.

>>6652563
are you implying that you're retarded enough to call me a faggot even though you know you'd go to prison for doing it? If so, then you're better off in prison, they'll feed you for free and make sure you don't get lost or hurt yourself.

If you're not retarded, then what we're comparing here is not you being in prison and out of it, but rather you being able to call me a faggot and you not being able to call me a faggot. To which I ask, is that really a significant difference to you?

>>6629941
Kiara sucks. There are dozens of better EN Vtubers that would be better in Hololive than her.

>>6633512
Irys was quick to retweet Sparks and tell people to listen to it and I can only think that Kiara was definitely begging her behind the scenes to do it

Here's a rrat for you retards:
It's not a good song so it gets few views. It's not about Kiara being a good vtuber or not.

>>6654572
Oof, that rrat insults someone like poor Aki, whose Heroine Audition and Shallys singles are nowhere near a million views. Does that make Shallys a bad song?

>>6635935
You don't understand Kiara's psychology if you think this. She's a glass half empty person, this is the person who reached 1 million subs within her first year and STILL had a whine that she thinks they might have been pity subs. Kiara never shows gratitude for her position, at least not without an equal amount of complaining that she's not getting the recognition she believes she deserves.

Imagine if this fragile bitch was in Niji EN instead. She gets the luck of being able to ride the Hololive gravy train and still acts like the world is out to get her.

>>6654572
Shallys is the best original song Hololive has produced and it's under 800k views after an entire year.

>>6639123
It's already implied in the cut, except they also have the choice to take the money home instead of using it to gamble on making a breakout hit.
I'm sure cover would be happy to provide all the funding they want subject to budget if instead of taking a cut they got salaried.

>>6629941
>Do KFP just not listen to her song??
No YouTube video ever has a 1:1 subscriber:views ratio.

>>6654633
She’s so cute in both those music videos.

>>6639123
This comes off really poorly on Kiaras part because we already know the Holos are contractors who have to fund their own merch and production costs. Lamy was talking about how her income went negative one month because of upfront merchandise costs. It's not unique to Kiara at all. Cover are giving Irys special support because she's a Vsinger, it's her thing. So basically Kiara is jealous of being treated the same as every other Holo and not like Irys who is a unique case.

At least Kiara has no fucking right to complain when she continues to sing in that horrid chicken voice. Cover give support to projects they intend to use as part of the companies brand and who wants Hololive associated with Kiara's awful germanic screeching?

>>6654671
Its you who are assuming the worst based on rrat shit. Kiara is more open with her worries than other holos, which are justified. Just cuz your oshi is good at pretending, doesnt mean they arent even worse inside.

>>6639123
>several hundred thousand dollar MV
animation doesnt cost that much.

>>6654873
THIS. Kiara already know about all those funding ur own personal project thingy. The fuck she mean by lack support!?
>>6654891
See this >>6654873 she was complaint about dumb shit and "her worries" are clearly her seething over not getting the special treatment she "surely deserve"

>>6654891
>which are justified
In what way is Kiara's constant bitching about her numbers justified when there are dozens of Holos worst off than her in her own company and thousands of Vtubers worse off than her in the entire industry? It's like listening to a billionaire complain he had to pay 50 million in taxes to a guy who's scraping a living off 25k a year and saying his complaints are 'justified", get some fucking perspective nigger.

>>6629941
It's the forced voice. It sucks, but that's why she's lower than the other girls in viewership. She's hard working and cute, the songs are pretty good too. It's just the birb voice.

>>6655030
Nah, it's her personality. She's a complete cunt of a person. Ungrateful, rude, selfish whore.

>>6641687
Looks like she's purposefully leaning into making her character comically desperate for success.

>>6655010
Kiara literally acknowledged that the way she was treated was normal and just like everyone else.

>>6655085
yeah i gotta wonder what her manager was thinking when kiaras on stream manipulating her audience to feel resentment towards hololive/cover. kiara is just a big yab waiting to happen, just graduate her already

>>6655148
Then why she complained about not getting "support" on her song? Tf she talking about?

>>6631279
he said as he went back to listening to Reflect for the 100th time on spotify top 50

>>6655024
Its all relative. Its like saying people in 1st world countries shouldnt complain about being poor, because kids in africa have it worse.

In her position its reasonable to set targets for your expectations, its reasonably gonna disappointing if you dont hit it. Its gonna be failure.

Small vtubers are also privileged people, who got internet, and they are women, and can get men to simp for them by controlling a puppet.

>>6655265
yet Reflect is on its way to 7M views while SPARKS is barely reaching 800K, what's the difference then?

>>6655175
Because of how debut and her song was scheduled to be released and the timings undermined success of the song. Cover couldve put more care into how the work is treated and the visibility it gets.

>>6655288
>Its all relative
Right so Kiara should stop measuring herself against an impossible yardstick. She objectively doesn't even deserve her current level of success anyway, she was just in the right place at the right time to ride the Hololive wave. She'd have less subs than Aki Rose on her own merits. Maybe a more apt analogy is a lottery winner comparing himself to other wealthy people and complaining he's not as rich as them.

>>6655030
>lower than the other girls in viewership
she is still doing way better than most of the girls in HOLOLIVE, so why complain? or she is simply comparing herself with Gura and Mori?

>>6655374
It's not Covers job to work around the schedules of their talents. Again they're contractors, they work largely independently so when Kiara puts her song up is within her control but when other Hololive members debut or stream is not. It's Kiara's job to make sure she's avoiding clashes.

>>6655374
Like i said no one is special. Why should cover be responsible for when and how kiara shilling her shit? Or should they delay the announcement just for her? Tf?

>>6655384
>Aki Rose
How does Aki rose deserve her subs more?
Is she multilingual? What's her experience? How is her singing?

Does she run a show like holotalk, does she organize anything? Networking?

No Kiara is way more valuable to the company, even if she had only Aki Roses numbers.

>>6654891
Kek please do not project your oshi's insecurities on the other holos, this is why no one likes KFPs.

>>6629941
>277 replies
rent free

>>6655462
Aki Rose absolute mogs Kiara at singing, what the fuck?
https://youtu.be/3y5-Fl2ExIA

>>6655458
>>6655457
You realize management literally forced her to make her birthday stream shorter? So she had to rush it and shit? That's on Cover. Cover is the one who decides their birthdays... And this was a birthday song.

So its on cover.

>>6655534
kiaras birthday was already longer than most

>>6655534
>Her birthday was set up a year ago
>IRyS was a recent project
It..it's cover! It's all management fault i dont get muh 1mill in a day! It's not cause mu..muh song is shit!
Go kys kftard

See? This is why the EN vsinger sings in Japanese. Only weebs care about the music side of hololive

>>6655350
Do you even know the meaning of normie

>>6655534
>>You realize management literally forced her to make her birthday stream shorter?
It was 3 hours long. Exactly how much time was Kiara expecting to have to herself without clashes? Was everyone else supposed to just black out the entire day for Kiara? It's all ME ME ME ME ME isn't it. Kiara never gives any thought to anyone else she's inconveniencing and that's what makes her a shitty person.

For the record Subarus birthday was the day after Cocos graduation, how do you think she felt about that? Yet Subaru dealt with the issue with grace and Kiara shat herself like a toddler.

huh

>>6655735
irys couldve been debuted next day

>>6655505
>cover
>an older song, not some recent trend crap
>title fully in jap, only kanji even - makes it hard for EOPs to even search for it
>550k JP vs 1.1M EN
Honestly surprised it isn't EVEN LESS popular

>>6655920
Kys kiara

>>6629941
the song is garbage
simple as

>>6629941
I'm neither KFP nor Chumfag. Occasionally I listen to reflect. I never listen to sparks. That's the big problem. ONLY KFP are listening to sparks and it possible not all KFP are listening to it either. The good vtuber songs manage to get people who aren't even a fan of the chuuba to listen to the song.

>>>>>>300 replies
i think nothing would inflate kiara's ego more than knowing there's a group of people who spent every day talking about her, trying to figure out what she's thinking and dissecting everything she does

>>6656660
See >>6654633

>>6655920
Idk where you're from, but IRyS' countdown was a day after Kiara's birthday in JST

>>6656774
>bad publicity is still publicity
we gotta stop letting the chicken stay in our minds rent-free

>>6656774
It's pretty much worship at this point as they're THAT obsessed. Kinda sad too

>>6657664
Hey, obsessive fanbase and obsessive antis. Seems like a perfect match.

If only everyone who posted in this thread gave Sparks a listen, it would be closer to 1M already.

It really isn't a good song

>>6657693
Thing haven't been the same since the fall of Doxcordia...

>>6655534
The speed thing was 'cause she had to announce the merch before the merch unlocked on the store, dude.

everyone in this thread please consider offing yourself

Holofags really are mentally ill losers.

>>6638486
Kiara really needs to change her approach, she's not going to become the main ''pop'' girl from EN that's what people want to see Gura doing (even if she is going for a edgy route)

>>6630016
Not KFP, I like spark way better than all her other songs.

>>6660035
Not KFP, I hate Sparks but that's because KIRA makes shit music, nothing to do with Kiara.

>>6638611
>in the clip she literally states that numbers aren't the issue
Numbers aren't the issue but she'd have no reason to complain about whatever Cover did if it wasn't about how the song is performing. I mean it's out isn't it, it's published so what's the issue if not the fact it's not getting the views Kiara wants it to?

Oh look another egg thread where the same 5 schizos talk to each other

>>6660485
Try again

>>6630016
Sparks is better than Heart Challenger and Hinotori.