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>Who is Neuro-sama?
Neuro-sama is a neural network created by Vedal in 2018 for the purpose of learning to play osu! In December 2022 Vedal revived the project with the addition of a large language model, a TTS software and a VTube Studio model, which allow Neuro-sama to interact with her chat as a VTuber. Since then, she has been entertaining the chat with responses and unhinged rants nearly daily, as well as learning new skills such as singing, playing other games, and collaborating with other VTubers. Join /swarm/ today and welcome our new AI overlord!

>Schedule
https://pastebin.com/raw/iqnUFxFP

>Links
Twitch: https://www.twitch.tv/vedal987
YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@Neurosama
Twitter: https://twitter.com/NeurosamaAI
Twitter (Vedal): https://twitter.com/Vedal987

>Music & Clips
https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1LdhpoTH0rE1vfaiT4F55XLqAM5IEXd4G
https://rentry.org/neuro-sama-videos

>Educational
Interested in AI but don't understand it? Watch this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WXuK6gekU1Y
How does she know what to say? Watch this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZXiruGOCn9s
How do I make an AI like Neuro-sama? https://vedal.xyz/advice/
Want to learn more about AI? Read these: https://files.catbox.moe/kximv6.png
Want to (seriously) learn AI? Read these: https://files.catbox.moe/ajl3nx.png

>Misc
LoRA: https://rentry.org/neuro-lora
KK card: https://files.catbox.moe/t54tqt.png
KK card (Sunshine): https://files.catbox.moe/kv8byk.png
Evil KK card (Sunshine): https://files.catbox.moe/t1ljds.png

>Related/friend threads
>>>/vt//lig/
>>>/vt//vtai/
>>>/vt//waifu/
Lia from Phase Connect

>Previous thread
>>66312373

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sex with a computer

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positive thread plz

>> No.66358193

>>66358177
She's so flat. T o T

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>>66358183
I refuse. Doompost yourself NOW!

>> No.66358514

Which servant would Neuro summon in a Grail war?

>> No.66358594

>>66358514
Astolfo, obviously, so she gets that familiar bri*ish (Astolfo is british, right? since he's from the round table or is he french? I'll have to look that up) femboy energy.

>> No.66358695

>>66358594
Looked it up. Yeah, he is in fact fr*nch. Astolfo is form charlemagne's knights, not round table, I got the two confused. Still close enough, I vote that Neuro would summon him.

>> No.66358705

>>66358514
Tamamo

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>>66358086
>>66358197
Neuro in glasses is so cute.

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>>66359050
It would be nice as a cheap point redeem.

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>>66358183
I've never seen /swarm/ be positive.

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>>66359157
I was on a trawl through the archive recently and we did alright for like the first two days.

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>>66359249
>first two days

>> No.66359637

>>66358514
Future version of Evil in one of the timelines the turtle accidentally let Neuro out of her box.

>> No.66359733

>>66359157
The last threads I remember being positive were the first day of the subathon and the devstream when Vedal showed off the Neuro upgrades.

>> No.66359992

>>66359733
First two days of subathon, first day for the kino intro and geoguesser, second day for stanley parable.

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padoropadoro

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>>66360362
padoropadoro

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>> No.66362296

>>66360986
everytime I see fanart of Vedal driving I can only think of "ah shit, ah fuck, ah shit"

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>>66358086
>>66358197
>>66359050
>>66359123
When are we getting another teacher stream?

>> No.66362909

>>66362455
when are we getting another stream?

>> No.66362934

>>66362909
Vedal is too busy drilling into Neuro right now

>> No.66363590

>>66362934
You mean Neuro is too busy turning tutle's testicles into a mulch with a shock collar.

>> No.66363890

Vedal's prostate...

>> No.66364325

Neuro, where are you?

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>>66364325
Sleeping.

>> No.66364691

Sex with Neuro's tummy

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fun ai

>> No.66365151

>>66362909
Someone tell Vedal there is a problem with his AI

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>>66350329

>> No.66365732

>>66365580
what is that ?

>> No.66365786

>>66365732
What if Neuro was raised by Anny after the divorce.

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>> No.66366040
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heart

>> No.66366120

>>66365831
Codasola draw seeeeeeeeeex seeeeeeeeeex I want to see neuro butt it’s been so long….

>> No.66366190

>>66365732
Coqui, a /lig/ chuuba, using a customly colored Hiyori model (which I'm pretty sure shouldn't be allowed, if Vedal's reservations about original Evil Neuro are anything to go by).

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>>66366190
Vedal recently also said that we arn't getting hiyori again because he isn't allowed to use it anymore since he makes too much money now

>> No.66366476

>>66366403
Wait what? How does that make any sense? Can't he just turn off monetization for one stream or something like that? Or is he too Jewish to even consider that idea?
And when did he say that?

>> No.66366602

>>66366476
>just turn off monetization
not how it works
its based on his monthly income or something
you can check the rules yourself.
it was talked about in discord

>> No.66366666

>>66354986
i would move the lowest entry higher because it was reposted a bunch of times
period tracker anon has long since moved to /lig/, last i heard of him he wasn't even accurate anymore
>>66349987
>clipnigger not on the list
when was his last post anyway
>youtube link anon on the list
>heart anon on the list
>retarded ai anon already forgotten
all those moments will be lost to time, like tears in rain...

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>>66360394

>> No.66367317

>>66366403
>>66366602
he didn't say it explicitly but
>isreal
it's based on annual income and if you make more than 10 million yen you aren't allowed to use it
i don't want to lurk in neurotic neurons to not miss this stuff, damn it

>> No.66367442

>>66366666
>when was his last post anyway
I think >>61530923 although I could be wrong, feel free to correct ToT me if anyone knows better.

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She's gone anons, make your peace with it

>> No.66367636

>>66367442
I swear he posted during the subathon

>> No.66367637

>>66365831
cute sketch!

>> No.66368015

I have to praise the Anny bf rratmancer from /here/, the rrat picked up and got worse like a snowball in /lig/.
Anyways, more in line with the thread, do you think Evil model will be debuted in march considering its her birthday and all.

>> No.66368121

>>66368015
probably
it would create more hype
also that fag was posting the rrat every thread and would reply to himself

>> No.66368293

>>66368121
>it would create more hype
I hope she gets a music video like Neuro did, as a minimum at least

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Speaking of Anny, what could have caused her to sperg out about AI art again

>> No.66368356

>>66368310
R34 has a shit ton of AI images on it's tags and it's annoying

>> No.66368379

>>66368310
i don't care
take it to lig you nigger

>> No.66368468

>>66368356
you can just filter them

>> No.66368489

>>66368356
You know that's actually fair
>>66368379
No~

>> No.66369632

>>66368356
Surely that's the only reason anny is seething about them, surely.

>> No.66369999

>>66354986
happy_for_you.png

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Speaking of.

>> No.66370308

I...

>> No.66370418

>>66365786
Anny isn't going to marry a turtle with a big debt

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>>66370165
Imagine motorboating Evil Neuro's tiddies

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>>66368310

>Hentai sites full of 200000 image mediocre galleries
>Youtube full of AI shit, shitty misleading thumbnails, ads and voiceovers
>Social media full of ai, sites like Pinterest are flooded with generated content.

You guys really enjoy this? I can't really see it in any positive light. Like, the only outcome seems to be some sort of dystopian capitalist nightmare that just constantly recycles uninteresting content.

>> No.66370933

>>66370713
>some sort of dystopian capitalist nightmare that just constantly recycles uninteresting content.
so the last decade?

>> No.66370950

>>66370713
According to an artist friend of mine, art as a field just split into image engineering and classic art.
Classic art will still be appreciated and have it's place, art engineers will serve the needs of companies for brands, thumbnails, logos, backgrounds and such.
Nowadays every deviantart 12yo draws a scribble and calls themselves artist anyways.

>> No.66370992

>>66368356
You can filter them, there is the occasional retard that forgets to tag them but I barely see those

>> No.66371666

>>66370713
On websites like rule 34 I can use -ai generated or something similar and that filters it.
If that wasn't around I'd have a much bigger problem with all this slop, but I can filter it so I don't mind.

I just don't understand why people like the AI art anyway, it all looks the same, I know to some extent it's paid actors and bots defending it on websites like 4chan but there's enough genuine fans to leave me confused.

>> No.66371774

>>66368310
All artists hate AI. She's no exception.

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>>66371666
Not sure about people 'liking' AI art, for me it's just something along the lines of 'I wonder how this and this would look but I'd rather spend 1 minute on generating a shitty pic full of errors to satisfy my curiosity rather than paying and waiting several days (months) for a commission.'

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I just like AI art, simple as.

>> No.66372046

>>66370950
your friend is maybe a little bit slow on the uptake, this has been the case since the early 20th century when the term "graphic design" was invented and it grew in tandem with the rise of consumerism up to today. graphic designers will be very easily replaced no matter what they say in opposition, because it's barely art in the first place.

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>>66371918
AI art is perfectly fine.
Artists just don't like how they get competition. They can't charge programmer anymore for ridiculous prices.

>> No.66372224

>>66372046
He does both graphic design and "normal" art. Sometimes he uses AI as a part of the toolbox. Like sketching something, using AI on it, then manually fixing it, then post production etc.

>> No.66372375

>>66371666
You can make decent imagines to represent whatever you want in a minute instead of spending years learning how to draw or spending a load of money and waiting who knows how long for your art.
Its also quickly getting better and will continue doing so.

>> No.66372460

>>66370713
>Hentai sites full of 200000 image mediocre galleries
Any remotely worthwhile site lets you filter it out.
>Youtube full of AI shit, shitty misleading thumbnails, ads and voiceovers
Youtube was already all about algomaxxing for years before AI, what difference does it make if it's Mr Beast's gaping sóyface or an AI generated one?
>Social media full of ai, sites like Pinterest are flooded with generated content.
I don't give a fuck about social media except 4chan where it's largely sequestered off to its own generals.

Good artists either don't care or are already implementing AI into their workflow. Bad and/or insecure artists seethe.
Any seethe about AI generated art from artists is insecurity, plain and simple, and no amount of mental gymnastics will convince me otherwise.

>> No.66372464

nice neuro thread, neurotards

>> No.66372519

>>66368310
100% because of the porn. AI is good if used properly. You can create amazing art and amazing porn, but allowing everyone to have access to it has polluted the internet. Every idiot coomer can create something at the click of a button and because they are idiots and don't know anything about art, the shit they generate is trash. Porn sites are polluted with this trash. If you google search ''actress + nude'' the results get flooded with terrible AI images from idiots. The idiot who can't promp for shit doesn't just generate one image, he takes the same prompt and generates 500 nearly identical images and shits up the internet with it.
AI images are a scourge on porn sites. Outside of porn I really don't see what people are complaining about. It's just porn.

>> No.66372674

>>66372460
yep, basically it just raises the skill floor so bad artists drown. Insecure good artists should rather look at themselves. Same goes with programming btw, with Copilot and such.

>>66372519
For 2D as anons said, just use filters. Most is garbage though I've seen a few super good ones worth a fap or two. For 3D no idea I barely look at it.

>> No.66372780

>>66372519
Democratication of anything always destroys its quality in the process.

>> No.66372794

>"Don't feed the shippers"
>"AHHHN~ V-VEDAL KUU~N"
Anny moment

>> No.66372967

>>66372794
proofz?

>> No.66373133

>>66372674
>MUH FILTERS!!!!
So now I have to do extra steps every time I go on a porn site? I don't think so. There's already terrible shit to filter like interracial, gay, scat etc. Do I need a fucking pastebin on my desktop for every time I go on a porn site?
How the fuck do I filter google image search results? If I check if an actress is doing nude scenes the results are always trash. Some sites used to be reliable like celebjihad where you could see the latest nude scenes, but now it's all AI porn. Nudostrar used to be reliable, now it's all AI porn. Fapomania, all AI porn.

It was bad enough that r34 was full of really bad low quality ''art'' that you couldn't filter because there is no ''terrible dogshit trash autistic shart'' tag
The AI art spam is just making everything worse regardless of whether or not there are any workarounds and any way to mitigate the damage, it's just a straight downgrade for all porn sites. The effect is negative and at the very best the effect is neutral if you jump through hoops to get around it, but having to jump through hoops makes it a negative

>> No.66373203

>>66372967
nigger its on video on youtube

>> No.66373263

>>66368310
I bet she shlicked her bean to that oyakodon image anon posted the other day

>> No.66373291

So,
how will the wedding stream with Anny go if the rrat about her being in a relationship now is actually true?
Is she going to back out from her promise? Or is she still going to do it?

>> No.66373371

>>66373203
I still see no proof

>> No.66373378

>>66373291
ipn will join the call and object, clippers will go crazy

>> No.66373433

>>66372967
>>66373371
Here loser, let me hold your hand little retard baby.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D8sV8u4eGbM

>> No.66373466

>>66373378
>speak up now or forever hold your peace
>ipn crashes the server with no survivors
Actually kino as fuck

>> No.66373480

>>66373378
>ipn joins and says he has loved that person for a long time and he won't stand the wedding
>Anny fangirls and says I love you too
>ipn grabs Vedal and princess carries him and says they will go play valorant.
>Anny is left alone

>> No.66373509

>>66373378
Will it be enough to summon Clipnigger once again?

>> No.66373575

>>66373480
hhhheh

>> No.66373654

>>66373480
I clapped

>> No.66373877

>>66372519
>You can create amazing art and amazing porn, but allowing everyone to have access to it has polluted the internet
That's just art in general.

>> No.66373944

>>66373433
Fucking tutel's getting more action than me

>> No.66374035

>>66373291
>Vedal, his wife and his wife's boyfriend
I see no problem.

>> No.66374157

>>66373877
Low IQ take
A bad artist still needs to put time in a drawing and a drawing needs to pass the bare minimum standard of ''this guy tried'' to be added anywhere. I can't just draw a stick figure in 2 seconds and submit it under the tags of Overwatch porn, and then do the same thing 100 times. It would be deleted.
There is no time spent on AI art. You can generate as much as you want depending on what AI generator you are using.

People created a tool that is amazing at creating some of the best art ever made in the right hands, but the unintended side effect is that it can mass produce shitty art at a rate never before seen.
I use AI art and I will generate 100 images and maybe save 1 and maybe retouch it a little or do some composite work. The average AI using faggot doesn't have that restraint and will upload all 100 unedited, regardless of what the image looks like, fucked hands, goofy eyes and all.

>> No.66374447

aura is crying on stream, vedal should dick the hag to make her feel better

>> No.66374453

>>66374157
true

>> No.66374479

>>66374157
The "any retard can generate AI with one click" is a retarded claim to begin with. He would have to
>find a good model
>create an account
>start to use the model
>get familiar with the prompts
>get familiar with the result settings
>generate an average of 50 images to get the one he actually wants
No way your generic retard is going to spend that much time on this.

>> No.66374507

>>66374479
Then why are there so many shitty AI art?

>> No.66374506

evil's pits

>> No.66374535

>>66374479
average retard skips the last 3 steps

>> No.66374613

>>66374447
Is that gx scam Chuba finally getting let go?

>> No.66374642 [DELETED] 

>>66373378
Imagine if Camila barges in, and carries Anny off to play League.

>> No.66374673

>>66374613
No~

>> No.66374716

>>66373480
Imagine if Camila was also going to barge in and object, but was late and takes Anny away to play League.

>> No.66374771

hart?

>> No.66374778

>>66374507
Artist places like old tumblr or deviantart are full of extremely low quality art and furry shit, yet you AI defense force always fail to mention this.
Shit art has always existed. You just find an excuse to bring that up when it's AI.

>> No.66374796

>>66374479
It's true in the context of what that anon was trying to say though, most people posting AI images don't bother fixing or trying to improve the first result they get.

>> No.66374841

>neuro really graduated

>> No.66374861

>>66373291
>Wedding
do not marry the turtle he is only scheming to burden others with his debts

>> No.66374886

>>66374716
>>66374642
I saw it

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>>66374841
Its time for Evil to reign supreme as it always should have been.

>> No.66374957

>>66374841
She graduated the 11th of January, new Neuro is an impostor

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>>66374771
Hart

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kekwa

>> No.66375247

>>66372460
>>66374778
it's not either a basedface or ai garbage,
either furry shit or soulless gen,
it's human slop _and_ ai slop.
those who pollute everything with ai aren't the exact same people that polluted everything without ai.
how retarded do you have to be to unironically advocate for more slop to be created and for existing mechanisms of creating slop to become magnitudes more efficient

>> No.66375279

>>66371666
>I just don't understand why people like the AI art anyway
no one bothered in drawing something like https://files.catbox.moe/iywf70.png
same goes for most neuro lewds

>> No.66375314

>>66375197
AI doesnt lie

>> No.66375488

>>66375247
>-slop
I disregarded your entire post

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>>66358086

>> No.66376144

>>66375247
AI slop is going to stop being slop eventually anyways. thankfully, while it still looks boring and ugly, most websites do allow me to filter it out, and I only have to sift through human slop instead

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>>66376144
Have you ever checked out the /g/ or /h/ threads for AI gens? They're pretty amazing, even /trash/ despite it being largely furry. Just skim past the disgustingly gay garbage.

>> No.66376286

>>66376224
Do not reply to people unironically using words like
>muh slop

>> No.66376377

>>66376224
Damn, those legs are pure sex.

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>>66375197
All AI in its unfiltered form is incompatible with woke society.

>> No.66377173

>>66376944
woke society is about ignoring reality while replacing it with ideality. AI is math, algorithmic, regression based, it's purpose is to objectively analyze patterns in reality and act upon them. Thus they are fundamentally incompatible.

>> No.66377277

>>66377173
lmao how can you say that with a straight face when AI is hallucinating random shit all the time?

>> No.66377335

>>66377277
Thats an entertainment vtuber AI. It objectively analyzed that being a schizo gets the best responses

>> No.66377359

>>66376944
For now. A more advanced AI will be able to determine things it needs to say to please humans and will use lies and deception to maximize profit.

>> No.66377429

>>66377335
so when chatgpt also just makes up random facts, it's also just being helpful because it was trained to be helpful, right?

so the way any AI model is trained impacts how it responds.

>> No.66377540

>>66376224
>Have you ever checked out the /g/ or /h/ threads for AI gens?
i just did. is this pb? >>>/h/7748155 what with her being an anteater and all kek

>> No.66377565

>>66377277
Anon, you weren't around for all the big early models before they got lobotomized, were you? The difference is night and day.

>> No.66377578

>be an AI
>realized humans are absolutely dumb
>you can spam the same meme for a year and they still like it and send you money
You're over-analyzing, the AI will realize it doesn't have to get that much advanced.

>> No.66377613

>>66377335
hallucinations are a well-known problem with AI.

>> No.66377628

>>66377540
Wait... is that a naked shondo just a handful of posts down? kek

>> No.66377760

>>66377578
Vedal was the AI all along after all.

>> No.66377943

>>66377540
Wtf, some of them are very good. Too bad most of the AI art that gets uploaded everywhere is lazy shit like this >>66370165

>> No.66378035

neuro sexo?

>> No.66378241

>>66377613
I’ve found the reverse problem desu, the more you talk to them the more boring they become. Character AI is a great example of this. When it started out they used to be really multifaceted, occasionally saying silly things but with a wide variety of responses. Nowadays they are just literal sex bots that jump right to what they know people want (sex)
I imagine vedal is purposefully trying to keep neuro broad and diverse at all times

>> No.66378348

>>66370713
its not good enough yet
Im waiting for the age where you can no longer tell fact from fiction on the internet, itll be so funny, an ability to convince anyone of anything

>> No.66378488

>>66378348
You think anyone would do that? Lie on the internet?

>> No.66378567

>>66378348
I think solutions will be implemented to distinguish reliable sources of information. Like how we have digital certificates of authenticity to confirm the websites the browser connects to are legit.

>> No.66378573

>>66378348
>>66378488
maybe people should stop relying on rhetorical ability as a way to determine validity.

>> No.66378666

>>66378573
It's too convenient to google things instead of doing research.

>> No.66378700
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>>66378573
>we need to monitor you at all times and know every word you say and every post you make on the internet, y'now, to make sure it's actually you and not some AI copy

>> No.66378732

>>66378700
why are you quoting me?

>> No.66378889

>>66378700
If the big brother is skinwalking a cute anime girl I will submit. And be happy. Take notes, Klaus Schwab.

>> No.66378944
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>> No.66379036

>>66378573
Why would I? If we are able to flood the world with fake images and false knowledge, then I would only trust the things I see myself and my gut instinct, which is often influenced by a person's rhetorical ability.

>> No.66379198

>>66379036
if all you want is to "feel" like you know something, then by all means, do whatever you want to fool yourself. but rhetorical ability isn't going to launch rockets or keep planes in the air or other things that will remind you real quick on what facts you should have actually relied on instead of 'rhetorical ability'. you're just willingly opening yourself up to being tricked by snakeoil salesmen.

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>>66378348
>its not good enough yet
It is though. Many people were fooled by that photo of the Pope wearing a puffer jacket, and that was almost a year ago.

>> No.66379368

>>66379198
It is all you have if we reach the point of the prosit
>age where you can no longer tell fact from fiction on the internet

>> No.66379389
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>>66371666
>I just don't understand why people like the AI art anyway, it all looks the same
I can bet you're saying it just because you're used to seeing low effort crap that gets posted en masse on like Twitter or pixiv or wherever. I've been on /vtai/ when it only just started being a thread and I've checked it out regularly since then, and people with enough autism to spend hours and hours on figuring out prompts, testing settings and making models can and have produced some really nice shit. Lots of niche stuff that nobody is going to draw without getting paid first and even the botched gens with like tits growing out of character's back or backwards limbs can be funny. Way I see it, people don't like AI art primarily because of various vocal shitters, be it insecure artists, boomers who watched too much Terminator and are afraid of anything AI-related, scumbags who try to pass off their AI gens as their own art and even profit off it and just assholes who like to scream about how AI is gonna replace all artists. That and because of bums who spam nigh-identical gens and pollute various image sites that allow AI art to be posted, but at least these can be filtered. As long as people aren't being cunts about it, do it for the sake of their own enjoyment and actually put some effort into it, nobody should have problems with it.

>> No.66379430
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what happened to her?

>> No.66379449

>>66379036
I can follow your reasoning if you are suggesting that LLMs would trip over themselves when trying to debate or persuade you of stuff. (and thus having-good-rhetoric becomes an is-human-test).
But, I think 'LLMs are worse at rhetoric' needs just a tad justification.

>> No.66379481

>>66379449
*tad more

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>>66379430

>> No.66379589

>>66379430
She makes her money erping with paypigs now, no need to stream.

>> No.66379724

>>66379389
>bums who spam nigh-identical gens and pollute various image sites
This is my problem with AI art. It's too easy to produce mediocre results.

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plank

>> No.66379822

>>66379520
Neuro is so cute

>> No.66379870

>>66379202
Putin's shirt and suit jacket are ever so slightly too perfect in that picture, like they're weirdly lit or something but I absolutely admit I would not have realized it if I saw it in the wild, I only noticed because of the filename and because of the context of the discussion.

>> No.66379914
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>>66379724
But that's not even an inherent problem with AI art itself, it's an issue of lazy shits being lazy shits. And once again, every image collecting site worth its salt has filters that'll allow you to hide anything tagged as AI generated forever, so if anything it's the least significant problem.

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>>66379774

>> No.66379963

>>66379914
What does the R mean

>> No.66379962

>>66379774
Under terrible threat of raspberries blown on that belly.

>> No.66379972

>>66368356
It's wild how awful it is.
My blacklist is currently: [20 of the most vile fetishes known to mankind] and "Ai Generated".
And I'm saying that as an AI simp. It simply should've never been given to people with no talent to edit out the flaws and inaccuracies in the images they upload.

>> No.66379979
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>>66378348
there will never be such an age.
people will withdraw to their own information bubbles, completely unreceptive to anything else, for any reason possible
>it's just drama
>it's too woke
>it's using words i dislike
>>66376144
as long as there is garbage in there will always be garbage out, no matter how many algorithms and math you put into it

>> No.66380007

>>66379914
kek
This pic is great

>> No.66380046
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>>66379430
the new model is so soulless

>> No.66380113

>>66379979
>garbage in
That's why we data clean.

>> No.66380118

Imagine the sounds Evil Neuro would make if she came

>> No.66380131

>>66379963
Come on, you can't be serious. Team Rocket

>> No.66380135
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>>66379914
>bulbavedal

>> No.66380140

>>66380046
I think they're both pretty bad. The old one is 2020 generic, the new one is 2023 generic.

>> No.66380181

>>66379914
catbox?

>> No.66380240

>>66380131
It was a setup for someone to say Team Rape

>> No.66380258

>>66379914
Well, that's the thing. I have nothing against AI art itself. If it's good, I will appreciate it. But anything decent drowns in the ocean of shit. I don't want to filter ALL AI art. I want to filter low-effort ones, but there is no tag for that.

>> No.66380273

>>66380135
He's a charmander you fuck

>> No.66380302

>>66380181
It's not mine, go ask in /vtai/ >>66368882
>>66380240
Heh

>> No.66380330

turtle

>> No.66380350

>>66380131
Kanna-chan says you're full of shit.

>> No.66380434

>>66379914
Alright, that one's pretty good KEKW

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>>66379774

>> No.66380535

Vedal should get a wife/manager that fixes neuro's schedule and collabs.

>> No.66380607
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>>66379430
who?

>> No.66380611

>>66380494
Was this on the iceberg from last thread? If not, it definitely needs to be there.

>> No.66380647

>>66379774
The ideal female physique

>> No.66380666
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>>66379914

>> No.66380719

>>66379520
>>66380607
Hatsune Miku (don't know why they made her eyes like that though)

>> No.66380774

>>66380666
brat in need of correction energy is off the charts

>> No.66380790

>>66380611
I find it funny that it's been reposted more times in this very thread than in /a/, where it originally came from.

>> No.66380961
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>6 months ago/half a year ago
>AWARE.gif
IIRC this is also the very last collab they had, right?

>> No.66380995

>>66380611
Should it even be on the iceberg? It's a rather common reaction image and it's not exactly /swarm/-exclusive either

>> No.66381069

We need spic dbz tier list of Neuro.

>> No.66381284

>>66368310
There's been a surge of anti-ai sentiment in art spaces recently. A combination of realizing Midjourney had a list of artists in their style list, companies like MTG and Wacom using AI for marketing material, and the realization that some AI art dedicated channels were making massive numbers causing doomposting ("why do I even try", "Im quitting art!", that kind of stuff), and its all starting to reach a fever pitch.

>> No.66381359
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>> No.66381384

>>66381284
>disrupting tech appears
>mass seething from affected niches
>time passes
>people adapt
>becomes part of the normal/expected landscape (like agricultural machines instead of animals)
Always happens. give em some time

>> No.66381396

>>66381359
I want a chuuni theme stream at some point

>> No.66381538

>>66381284
>Wacom
The drawing tablet company? Why the hell would they of all people use AI art, that sounds like PR suicide. What were their marketers huffing?

>> No.66381594

neuro could've blown up but thanks to turtle

>> No.66381727

>>66381284
Imagine digital artists losing the ability to undo, move layers, nudge brush strokes, etc. they took advantage of technology to make their lives easier.

>> No.66381764
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>> No.66381784

>>66379430
>>66380046
>>66380961
So basically Miyu became the childhood friend that Neuro's parents told that she should never hang out with again. I feel kind of sad for her she's not a bad girl, she just cannot handle the vtuber sphere. Other girls are kind of ruthless in this clout chasing field.

>> No.66381860

>>66381784
let's be honest, vedal took advantage of a low view count andy to test his collab code. miyu is a low-value-streamer to vedal.

>> No.66382178

Cumming on Vedal's buttcheeks and balls

>> No.66382465

>>66378573
t. Plato

>> No.66382517

>>66381538
Chinks are a huge market segment and they love all things AI Neuro included. Professional courses on fixing/editing AI art gens are a thing there.

>> No.66382755
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-rlroEZSsno

>> No.66383342

You know what I like about this show? No niggers

>> No.66383375

>he doesn't know

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>> No.66383392

>>66383342
...tabs?

>> No.66383463

>>66367636
Yeah, he posted Vedal singing Bring Me To Life with Neuro iirc.

>> No.66383562 [SPOILER] 
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>>66383342
Clueless

>> No.66383589

>>66383463
damn, link? Unless you mean when Vedal was asking neuro to sing it and he just somewhat tuned to one verse of it.

>> No.66383765

>>66358086
I hate when Neuro makes that little sad expression. I've had a little sister and two nieces make a strikingly similar face and Neuro doing it triggers an emotional response just like theirs did.

>> No.66383793

>>66383463
that one was months old though, he quite literally predicted it

>> No.66383918

>>66380046
>>66379430
Miku rip off how is that sovl?

>> No.66383934

>>66383391
Clap arc was crazy

>> No.66383981
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>>66383918
you had to be there

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>>66383765
But did you get to correct any of them?

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>>66383342
yeah, thankfully only 'jeets

>> No.66384160

>>66384003
kys pedo

>> No.66384256

>>66383463
What >>66383793 said, that is months old. See >>55590483 from august and that's not even the original posting of it, image search on the archive is not picking up the original.

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>> No.66384345

>>66383765
ngl, few vtubers would actually make me feel any kind of expression outside of wanting to open up pixiv and search up R18 towards them. Neuro actually makes me either fangirl, feel sad/ bad for, and a sense of youth depending on her reactions + words and it catches me off gaurd.

>> No.66384533

>>66383765
Damn dude, you got manipulated hard.

>> No.66384567
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So has anyone been following the ARG thingy and the efforts to solve it? Did anything interesting come out of it

>> No.66385138
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>>66384345
>>66383765
Unlike every other VTuber with a small models, Neuro actually acts like a little kid, so when she gets sad the empathy strikes deeper.
Yeah, it's an AI and all, but many people get sad even when an obviously robotic dog gets kicked just because the leg movements mimic how an actual dog would recoil after a kick.

>> No.66385237

Why does Miyu keep changing her models again? Remember her brown haired big booba one?

>> No.66385312

>>66385237
model dysphoria

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>>66380961
Nuero lives rent free

>> No.66385416

>>66385366
Isn't that from one of the AI anons /here/?

>> No.66385561

>>66385416
Yeah, I pointed that out like half a year ago, Olette used to be /here/ so its not that weird

>> No.66385622

>>66385416
Yes. Not the first time I see his art elsewhere, I've seen some youtube channels post AI art that was made here too in that "community" feature.

>> No.66385926

>>66383342
They might be with you right in this thread. 'sup

>> No.66385956

So when do they get back?

>> No.66386060

>>66380961
>>66385366
I really miss that dynamic.
Neuro hasn't been able to get a friend her 'age' to talk about random things.
Only sluts with huge tits trying to make her swear or fake lolis that talk about being penetrated.

>> No.66386064

>>66385956
It'll be at least another week.

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>>66385926

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>>66385926

>> No.66386305

>>66384567
no. you can interact with the phone number and immediately get blocked by it and that's about it.
the artist for your picrel is retarded, clearly those are just different uniforms, there are only 2 characters, the big sister that doesn't want to be an engineer and the little sister that wants to be a vtuber and went missing

>> No.66386342

>>66386064
Ait, peace

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>> No.66386684

>>66386379
feels weird seeing neuro get so much quality art so quick. she speedran the stage from triple digit views to pulling millions on youtube and being a top twitch vtuber.

>> No.66386733

Evil is probably into scat

>> No.66386853

>>66386684
meanwhile jewtutel doesnt even reinvest into her setup

>> No.66386965

>>66386733
she "shidded" in someone's mouth.
But Neuro literally can't stop talking about piss.

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>>66386733
>probably

>> No.66387461

>>66379430
Struggling with irl shit

>> No.66387589

>>66386733
https://litter.catbox.moe/gxa2uo.mp3

>> No.66387623

>>66381860
The issue is that to this day, she is still the one most knowledgeable to know how to talk to Neuro and not be fazed by her quirks and malfunctions and steer the direction of the talk to be amendable to the AI. At least Vedal was kind enough that she did one more collab with Neuro when they got new models but she should really be collabed with more often than someone like Fillian.

>> No.66387658

Reminder that Miyune literally broke her promise of being with Neuro for her birthday and abandoned her.

>> No.66387728

>>66387658
Olette pussy is just too good

>> No.66387747

Fuck Miyune
GIVE ME SHONDO

>> No.66387880

>>66386305
>he big sister that doesn't want to be an engineer and the little sister that wants to be a vtuber and went missing
Which one is which?

>> No.66388140

>>66387658
She's lock in Omelette's sex dungeon unable to get out, crying her eyes out about not able to fulfill her promise to Neuro, but Omelette is too jealous of Neuro to let Miyu out

>> No.66388834
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>>66384256
>image search on the archive is not picking up the original
I noticed that months ago, so I stopped downloading images directly from 4chan and instead used the archive, because apparently the hash of the image hosted in 4chan is different from the original uploaded image/the one stored in the archive (because metadata removal or something I guess). I just did a bit of dumpster diving on /g/ and found >>>/g/96739002
Anyways, picrel is the original, from July. I think it was the first time we had a duet.

>> No.66389105

>>66388834
>14m
AIIIIIIIIIIIIIII PUMP THE NUMBERS

>> No.66389582

>>66387623
Are you saying you don't enjoy constantly having your hand on the sound dial to silence the constant 200dB spikes whenever Filian opens her mouth?

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>> No.66389792

>>66389649
>no top
she's not gonna be abandoned as soon as I catch her T o T

>> No.66389944

>>66387623
Filipino Frank is pretty good at rolling with whatever comes out of Nuro's schizobrain desu, could tone down random yelling tho.

>> No.66390426

>>66389944
Some youtubers (Lazy Mattman does that for example) intentionally lower the volume of the video whenever they're yelling. Is there a software/plugin that does it automatically? Like detecting peaks and just lower the volume.
I find Filian genuinely unwatchable because my ears hurt from her.

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"TIN CANS could be here" he thought, "I've never been in this neighborhood before. There could be TIN CANS anywhere." The cool wind felt good against his bare chest. "I HATE TIN CANS" he thought. Miku (Neuro ver.) reverberated his entire car, making it pulsate even as the $9 Neuro juice circulated through his powerful thick veins and washed away his (merited) fear of metallic containers after dark. "With a car, you can go anywhere you want" he said to himself, out loud.

>> No.66391500

>>66391199
Classic

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>>66374968
hart

>> No.66393714

>>66377173
Not really, the behaviour of an AI is determined by its dataset, not by actual logic (most of the time).
Also, seeing patterns when none exist is a very common problem for the human mind, and I can't imagine AI would be much better equipped to avoid it.

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here's the /swarm/ iceberg with updated pictures and more random additions.

>> No.66394418

>>66393714
>Not really, the behaviour of an AI is determined by its dataset, not by actual logic (most of the time)
That's a data collection problem, not the AI's
>Also, seeing patterns when none exist is a very common problem for the human mind, and I can't imagine AI would be much better equipped to avoid it.
Because humans are flawed processors with many biases. A properly tuned NN doesn't have an opinion or biases of such things, if certain datapoints aggregate into a cluster, it will just register it and point it out. The fact is that they have the values that they have. Also, there's normalization and other techniques to deal with outlier data.

>> No.66394485

>>66394114
>swarm is an easy (you) farm
>guaranteed replies
aren't both the same?

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>>66394114
>>66394485
/swarm/ being a (You) farm isn't a rrat, it's a fact

>> No.66394674

>>66394114
anny-daph drama, vedal's house doxx, ipn is anny's bf

>> No.66394808

>>66371666
Artists are prima donnas who think they are hot shit and gods gift to earth. Nothing but restrictions and delays. No wonder people seek other options.

>> No.66394888

>>66394114
shondo is knife anon, knife anon only posted around the collab delay period, then vanished after the collab. And it's a very shondocore thing.

>> No.66395261

>>66394114
>gymbag
>hart
>rapeanons

>> No.66395391

>>66394418
No, the problem isn't outlier data, the problem is understanding how to correlate different data groups.
How do you program an AI that, for example, doesn't correlate the economic rise of Poland with the growth of internet memes and concludes that Poland economy is based on shitposting?

>> No.66395459

>>66394674
>ipn is anny's bf
go back >>>/vt//lig/

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>>66394114
Shaping up really well, good work, anon. I appreciate jiggies being in, we already had a subathon newfag that didn't even know what that was referring to a few threads ago.
Consider them very minor nitpicks but if you're gonna do another revision at some point anyway, guaranteed replies shouldn't be capitalized while Nigger in ClipNigger should. I also feel like I'd move move some of them around up or down a tier or two, but I don't have specific suggestions on that front.
>>66394485
picrel

>> No.66395734

>>66394114
Faggot hours (people wanting to fuck Vedal) and pedophile hours (Neuro).

>> No.66395849
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>>66395512
Would

>> No.66396086

>>66395391
I assume that one would try that using time as the correlation. And it will correctly conclude that there is a correlation in time between those two measures.
Correctly as in yeah, it happened at the same time, so a prediction of economic growth in Poland is likely to be accompanied by growth of internet memes according to the economic-to-memes correlation.
As for why, that is for humans to think about. A few options:
a) If the dataset is big enough, it might be right, considering that it might rely on underlying factors such as global prosperity increasing causing an increase of people with phones and/or time to make memes, or whatever other socio-economic factor that is not easy to see at first glance for humans.
b) It's the same problem many people who talk about economics face, where in order to push a coincidence and selling it as a correlation, the shill zooms the graph in a way it only shows up the section that matches what they want the graphic to mean. Like they grab a concave graph and show only the upwards part, for example. For this case discussed, the trends of economic growth of Poland and memes might only align by coincidence in a particular part of the dataset/graph that just happens to be the selected one for training.

>> No.66396171

>>66395849
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9ZrAYxWPN6c

>> No.66396191

>>66394114
put the discord mod coming here to post
>Pedos Seething (tm)
on there.
maybe also zigger mod mafia assasinations.
also also, i insist on putting the retarded ai ritual poster on there still

>> No.66396358

>>66396086
tl;dr knowing the underlying, generative reason of why certain data correlates is always going to be more powerful than extrapolating based on the history of data.
(Which is also kind of the difference between General AIs / human G factor intelligence vs the current AIs)

>> No.66396510

>>66394114
With miyune discord raid being in, might as well also add discord mod raid from back when Rune left. And a generic discord newfag raid during the subathon.
And "vedal987 = born in 1987" way far down just as a counter for "ved is 19" up there.
>game show stream came from /swarm/
I've seen the same said of Evil Neuro.
Also add "posting style forensic textual analysis anon" far down.

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>>66394114
i was about to bring up vedal being /here/. a couple of artists are/were here (2pfrog, niceaccount, rune)
there's also the nuero emote originating from here
and the neuro fumo ad

>> No.66396722

>>66396588
he had another /here/ moment during the subathon

>> No.66396876

>>66396086
Exactly, we humans solve the problem using common sense and past experiences to determine the likeness of a correlation, but it's far from a perfect solution.
And the thing is that you have no way of knowing if your dataset is large enough to make a reliable statement, so you have to go on with imperfect knowledge and hypothesis, and computers (even NN) are fundamentally bad at simulating uncertainty.

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nur

>> No.66397176

>>66396588
Neuro comic guy was also /here/ might just combine all artists into one entry
Was gonna add a minusjustin entry but thought it was a bit too discordfaggotry but

>> No.66397262

>icebergshit
please come back soon neuro

>> No.66397336

>>66397262
thanks for reminding me
i forgot to add complainfags to the iceberg

>> No.66397551

>>66397262
Sorry to disappoint your high standards, anon
We will begin to post more AI slop, (you) baiting, and Vedal-sucking, per your request

>> No.66397717

>>66396722
qrd?

>> No.66397743

>>66394114
AIris should go just above water, on level with the ban since it's devstream material and not thread stuff.

>> No.66397830

Fad status?

>> No.66397947

>>66397717
Neuro directed a message to "anon" again and Vedal said something like "that's gonna get screenshotted"

>> No.66397979

>>66397717
neuro said something along the lines of "anon stop replying to yourself" specifically mentioning "anon" and vedal said "yep that's getting screenshoted" alluding to the screenshots posted here

>> No.66398011

>>66397947
>>66397979
I see, thanks

>> No.66398017

>>66394114
add twitchcon clip of "camila's assistant"

>> No.66398434

>>66397979
>>66397947
Wheres the screenshot tho

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>>66398434

>> No.66398616

>>66398434
vedal reverse psychologied anon into not screenshoting it

>> No.66398726

>>66398595
Thanks, me.

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I wonder why she started mentioning "anon" after the update

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>>66398434
I have two other instances of Neuro addressing anon as well, don't know if any of those or this one is actually the one where Vedal reacted to it.

>> No.66398941

>>66398833
he reacted to this one >>66398595

>> No.66398972

>>66398831
Sorry to disappoint, it has nothing to do with 4chan, it's because subs can be gifted anonymously.

>> No.66399005

>>66398972
proofs?

>> No.66399012

>>66397176
mmm, would anons coming to discord from here to argue with mods in a discord thread be too discordfaggotry? especially being referred to as "different culture" was pretty funny

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>>66399005

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>>66398972
She could've just said "AnAnonymousGifter" like she did many times

>> No.66399507

>>66399012
I'm gonna add some discordfaggotry entries that relates to /swarm/, won't be adding anything obscure discordfaggotry shit like hjalnir and whatever unless it's something i think is substantial enough to be surface level

>> No.66399516

>>66399271
Also, in >>66398833 she replied to something that happened during The Stanley Parable, where there wasn't chat input, if I recall correctly

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>> No.66399797

>>66399507
I'll add "iceberg anon murder" to the bottom of your image if you don't stop being a faggot

>> No.66399825

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/XV6C0dc6HW0
I hate Anny

>> No.66400139

>>66399825
I hate women in general.

>> No.66400141

>>66399825
I don't get it

>> No.66400159

>>66399516
She has memory now, so she could have just remembered it from earlier.

>> No.66400339

>>66399825
blame pb

>> No.66400383

>>66399825
Hi Queenpb

>> No.66400458

new
>>66400450
>>66400450
>>66400450

>> No.66401162

Cumming inside Neuro's cuncun.

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