/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

tax evasion is based also phasemonkeys should stop camping in /vsj+/

tax evasion is based.

Well he did have problem with his taxes

>>66367660
He moved to Indonesia to have sex with Mika 3 times a day

>>66367660
nothing wrong with tax evading desu, try harder next time retardbro

sorry who?

"tax evade" is code for RAWDOGGING and CREAMING mika melatika's stinky cunt btw

uhh based

>>66367660
tax evasion is morally correct

>>66367660
I guess Mika won't be redebuting as another VTuber for at least the next 9 months

>HE'S NOT FUCKING MIKA YOU INCELS!!!
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!! WHAT NOW SISTERS?

It's pretty clear Vshojo arranged all of this for him, he has no idea what it's even called

Does this technically make him a SEAnig?

>>66367852
This guy seems nice, especially by nijimale standards, but man he's absolutely retarded.

>>66367660
It's not like most of citizen get any benefit from paying tax here.
I doubt many Indonesian will care about it.
It's based to tax evading until you got caught and forced to paid it.

Eat The Rich

>>66367660
>explain that the digital nomad visa is legal
>but its tax evasion
retard OP
based kuro

>>66367852
Yeah they paid for the wedding sister

>>66367660
lol at this fucking greedy asshole and lel at all these dishonest fujoshits itt

>>66367852
Post your feet Rebecca
I’ll give you dual citizenship too after we make love to each other

>holochuds cream themselves over billionaires tax evading
>someone from LE BAD COMPANY does it and now it's a problem

Based for Tax evasion, but man I feel bad for him having to live in Indonesia. That seems like a punishment in itself.

>>66367660
There are many countries to evade tax though? Why would you choose indonesia?
It's more likely he's fucking Mika

Is it really tax evasion if he plans on paying it back? That's the whole point of the subathon.

>>66367852
Its called KITAS, some ppl mentioned it in the comments.

He's not tax evading.
He's fucking Mika.

Mika's pussy must be tight.

>>66367660
And he gets to creampie Mika everyday, galaxy brain move desu.

If he's not getting British services by living abroad then why should he need to pay British taxes? I'm just curious why he's exempt from Indog taxes if he's living in Indogland.

>>66368232
If that was true, then why the dutch, british, japanese, arab and also the chink refuse to go back to their own land?

It is very wise to move to a country where Twitch's main audience is located. It sucks to kill the lunch hour to stream in their timezone.

>>66368352
Why not both?

>>66367660
>Indonesia has a Visa known as a digital nomad Visa, which allows foreigners working for foreign companies to live there tax free
how is that tax evasion?
I imagine he still has to pay bongland taxes
and if not that still is not tax evasion

>>66367691
They're camped out in at least 80% of the threads on the board

>>66367768
>>66367768
>>66367768

What the fuck is wrong with this retard? Why the fuck does he sperg out so hard over MUH TAXES that he needs to LARP as a billionaire athlete tax evader?

>>66368897
UK has Tax Treaty with ID to avoid double taxation. This paired with him getting ID nomad visa with no taxes means that he can practically live tax free for five full years in ID.

>>66368793
https://worldpopulationreview.com/country-rankings/twitch-users-by-country
there isn't even one SEA country in the top 15, that's a very strange cope / headcanon you have there
vshojo doesn't even have an indonesian branch like hololive and nijisanji do

>>66369042
sounds like he took a sound financial decision, good for him

>>66368297
wtf is kitas

>>66367660
>Bought a house in PH for his mom
>Now living in ID
>While keeping UK citizenship
I see that he is living the rich expat life. Good for him

>>66369042
Based Gunrun finding a tax loophole to save this retard.

>>66369051
it's just a numbermonkey trying to pin their kin on someone else

>>66369042
He still has to pay taxes on the income he generates outside of Indonesia. If anything, this is more like a band-aid.

>>66368759
cheap third world pussy

>>66368725
>pinoy says indog

lol brown culture war is funny

>Not playing taxes to nonce island
>gets to plap his future gen mate/wife every day
Kuro-sama I kneel orz

>>66368793
>twitch
>SEA audience

>>66367660
good for him
tax is theft
but jakarta is a shithole, I'm sure there are better alternatives like Texas in the US

>>66367660
>>This is how Gunrun helped Kuro, by allowing him to work for Vshojo Kuro could get this Visa
>>Kuro confirmed for tax evasion and lying about it
>How will this effect his subathon going forward? He acts like he's in debt while he's living tax-free like a king.
HAHAHAHAHA WHAT A

>>66369098
Kindertagesstätte

>>66369042
UK's IRS analog probably has some means to know this shit and will sniff around, especially if this retard will keep posting about his taxes situation on social media. He's also an employee of american Vshojo, so he's bound to leave some tax leads there too.

too SEA. vshit is becoming for SEA nigs lol

>>66367660
This doesn't fix his current ongoing tax issue, though?

>>66367660
Based, tax evasion is a basic human need.

Good for him.

>>66367660
not like this sister...

>>66369411
He still needs to pay his debt but he saves a shit ton of money with this.

I remember when his fans were in denial of him dating Mika.

YOU HEAR THAT SISTERS? VSHOJO ENABLES TAX EVASION!!

>>66369305
Based

>>66369486
After that cooking stream there were no doubts about it.

Also nice thread Rebecca. Are you gonna approach a 16 years old to spread this on twitter too?

>>66369508
Wtf I love vshojo now

>>66369486
Mika must be amazing at giving head. Happy
for them.

Not sure "tax evasion is ok when we do it" is really the hill you want to die on vshojofags but you do you

>>66369191
No wonder he got in trouble with HMRC in the first place. Man's so dumb he should not be allowed to buy groceries without lawyer's supervision

He married Mika

Is Indonesia going to become the new meta for westerners escaping their declining civilization?

So what I am getting is that I should move to Indonesia when I get into Hololive so I get everything tax free

>>66369098

What a fucking king.

>>66367660
Based, fuck taxes

>>66369310
Why is indog using dutch words.

>>66369809
when did vchads say it wasn't? If you can't game the system that's on you lil bro

>>66369855
He straight up laid out his plan to escape taxes on Twitter.

>>66369924
Westerners have already been doing it so often that they're pricing out the natives living there. What Kuro is doing is extremely controversial for this reason and I wouldn't be surprised if some Indonesian fans gave him hell for it.

>>66369947
Specifically he seems to have a Digital Nomad Visa KITAS

>>66369486
Mika is ugly as sin though, i would not want getting head from her

oh no Becky

>>66369184
Yeah we know Mika

>>66370076
That would be silly. If they want to complain they should complain about their government for enabling that.

>>66367660
can you at least include your panko pfp next time?

>>66369924
>non-whites come to white countries
>make them shittier
>whites flee from their declining countries and move to non-white countries
You have no one but yourselves to blame brown people

>>66367660
Taxes don't go away though. If the government determines you're intentionally evading, then they'll put a warrant out for your arrest.

>>66370076
Seems like a boogeyman to me, there's 350k immigrants total living in Indonesia and they're mostly Chinese or other SEA, meanwhile the native population grows by 3M/year. Why blame Westerners?

>>66370273
It would be a bad idea to openly talk about it on your public Twitter.

>>66369929
Only after you gaslight an indo vtuber into falling for you

>>66370327
Because westerners have valuable western money and the government wants more of that.

>>66367880
he literally is one regardless

>>66367660
Isnt he a flip? The fuck is he doing in indonesia?
And i wouldn’t want to surrender my british passport for an indonesian passport.

>>66370327
They're coping for an excuse for their shithole country.

>>66367660
So he moved to even bigger muslim shithole?

>>66370335
I will eat Reines cunt until she passes out so I am sorted on that front

>>66370429
>The fuck is he doing in indonesia?
Fucking Mika, duh. Good for him.

>>66367660
>Tax Evade
Who knew he was based

>>66370429
It's visa shit, not citizenship, his passport is fine

https://twitter.com/K9_KURO/status/1744754614929658080
>holokeks try to make drama about something kuro said
>they don't know that he's dumb as hell and doesn't know what a citizen is
nice try numberboys

>>66370541
He's tax evading either way kek what does it matter

>>66368725
he made most of his money in the UK

>>66369924
Bali has been this for decades now.
>>66370076
>Westerners have already been doing it so often that they're pricing out the natives living there
Specifically true for Bali, where the natives are kinda pissed about westerners (especially Russians and Ukranians) going over, taking drugs / getting drunk, getting into trouble, making money through online grifting or providing services specifically to other Westerners and not paying taxes. Most westerners in Jakarta are just English teachers, nobody really gives a shit about them.

>>66370541
Pretty sure OP is Rebecca trying to make drama about him

>>66369320
they know, theyll wait for him to move back and hit him with a bigger bill

>>66368725
He's a UK citizen residing abroad. Any income he makes outside of Indonesia would be subject to UK income tax.

>>66370599
tax avoidance ≠ tax evasion

>>66370273
Well he did say if he can't pay his taxes in January he has to go to jail, so he's aware

>>66370714
Oh lol maybe that’s why

>>66367660
Tax evading is whatever, what I do find it funny is that this guy who said that is deep in debt and needs to do a begathon to raise 300k is posting pics of him traveling to Bali while staying in some luxurious looking resort. This simply makes him look like a grifter.

>>66367660
Whats up with this guy and tax evasion? I hate taxes like any other person but in this case wouldn't moving across the world be more financially taxing?

Mika's pussy must be really tasty for him to move to indonesia with her

>>66370714
So if he goes back to the UK right now they'll arrest him? KEK

Knowing Mysta he'll fuck this up somehow, but he gets to fuck zoomer pussy so I can't blame him

>>66370756
It also means he's more likely to get audited by Indonesia if he reports low. All around, it's braindead stupid.

>>66370273
They don't go away for current tax year but they do for the next tax year if he doesn't spend half of it in UK + some other conditions or something along those lines idk Bongland's tax residence is fucking complicated

>>66370866
i will piss myself if he tries to visit the UK and gets arrested

>>66368725
I dunno if UK is different but as a US citizen living abroad I definitely still have to pay US taxes every year.

>>66371071
UK is completely different.
T. Bong is SEA

>>66371043
That sounds like complete bs, if it was that easy to tax evade no one would be paying shit.

>>66371065
He has plans to visit there and see his mother. Before that he wants to pay off his debt via his subathon, though.

>>66367736
THIS

>>66370001
Do your reps

>>66367660
Half of that is bullshit. Yeah, he may be living in Indo, but he hasn't even talked about any tax stuff as far as I see it. The rest is pure asspull conjecture.
Besides, the digital nomad visa has apparently been axed a while ago and while Indonesia does have long term visa schemes, you then just have to pay taxes there. Indo tax residency kicks in after you stay there 183 days per year or show intent to do so and there are NO EXEMPTIONS. He'll pay only 30% in the highest tax bracket as opposed to 45% in the UK but on the other hand, he has to live in SEA...
Granted, he's a certified retard, so he will still fuck it up somehow, but that's neither here nor there. The real reason for all that shit is kunti cunt anyway.

>>66371071
HMRC note that your avoiding and ramp up the tax deficit

Kuro is so based for this.

>>66370866
I mean, I've seen her nyfco photos... let's just say he could do better.

>>66367660
Based as hell

>>66371184
No, the digital nomad visa is very much still available. Kuro doesn't even meet the criteria for the other visas available.

>>66371192
If you don't have property or a job in the UK, what exactly are you avoiding?

>>66371184
Does what he said on Twitter make his situation worse?

>>66371296
He has a job in America and property, presumably (not sure where he said it was), in the UK(?)

>>66371218
It's Mysta, I don't know if he can

>>66367660
This dude probably earns six figures that's why he hates taxes so much

>>66371071
US is the only country I know that taxes its citizens even if they work overseas. Most countries only tax you if you work there

>>66370115
I doubt anyone could be uglier than Hololive zombie

>>66371363
I'm not talking about him specifically

>>66371422
If you're already in tax debt, you're avoiding making payments on it.

>>66371296
hes in tax deficit because niji does bank transfers( probably) and they didnt submit anything through HMRC until his bank noticed large incomes through BACS. so now theyre chasing him and the retard has probably spent it all

>>66367660
>Legally evading taxes
>Having hot, passionate sex with Mika
>Working alongside one of his besties from Niji
>Walked out of Niji just as it started to self implode in time to be remembered as one of the OG’s
Could a man win any more?

>>66371566
According to him, Niji gave him two incompetent accountants. It's more likely he just didn't give them all of the documents they needed.

>>66371184
Apparently the digital nomad visa is real, but you have to either buy property or put $128k into an escrow account that you can't touch until you leave.
https://thediplomat.com/2023/02/the-problem-with-indonesias-plan-to-attract-digital-nomads/

>>66371699
He got a lot of money when he graduated from Niji, he could easily do the latter. That explains why he milked it so damn much.

>>66371782
The issue is that means he used that money to avoid paying taxes on it.

>>66371647
nope he has to submit his own income

>>66371071
The IRS is the special child regarding tax collection agencies

>>66371840
Sounds about right.

>>66371861
What is this?

>>66371647
> It's more likely he just didn't give them all of the documents they needed
That still makes them sound incompetent. Good and experienced accountants should be able to tell their customers what the latter need to provide and easily guide those customers through necessary steps

>>66369042
>This paired with him getting ID nomad visa with no taxes means that he can practically live tax free for five full years
>five years
Doesn't >>66369947 say it's just one year to begin with?

>>66371942
They can't force him to surrender documents.

>>66371930
The font is instantly recongisable to bongs and anyone unfortunate enough to interact with the British government as gov.uk, the government's website which has an excellent and retard-proof step by step explanation of taxes that I guess the subject of this thread did not read

>>66370866
>>66371366
God Mika is so sex bros

>>66371840
Unless that's what Gunrun helped him with. Maybe he put the required money on his indonesian account until Kuro pays his taxes and moves back to the UK

>>66372055
People call her a leech but that just means she's good at sucking.

>>66372033
Was he not a resident of the UK while at Niji?

>>66372145
Did he trace Mizuryu Kei for this?

>>66372145
I thought the whole idea of being a leech is that the person in question isn’t funny or doesn’t add anything to the collabs? Mika’s funny at least

Also getting head sounds nice but giving oral to Mika would be way better tbhdesu

Why would I be mad? Sisters loving shipping so what’s wrong with their man moving to a shithole for his girl? Also ID fans love shipping too so what’s wrong with her getting a man.

Oh I’m supposed to get made at the tax evading? But that’s based tho?

>>66372145
Finally a we have a claim in this thread that can't be easily disputed

>>66372095
That would have to be his personal money, since it would be intermingling otherwise, right?

>>66371071
Common American L

>>66372299
It's one thing to evade taxes for the based reasons and another to just "bro, lmao I'm literally paying less money for some reason, let's brag about it on social media, so everyone can see how cool I am"

>>66367660
So he's a British Flip who lives to Indonesia? How the fuck do you even get this low in your existence?

>>66371218
Are you implying that he isn't the ugly one between them? Mika could do way better if she wanted.

>>66372299
It's based until you realize he's planning a subathon to make his payments.

>>66372192
I'm led to believe that he was, and didn't realise he needed to declare his earnings and pay taxes, which is what the page in that screenshot explains very clearly in the first result on google for "UK foreign income"
Now, if you evade taxes because you're a retard HMRC won't throw you in prison, they'll just expect you to figure out a way to pay what you owe. That tax obligation never goes away though, and they charge interest on it, so he still owes them money.

>>66372018
I doubt he'd refuse to provide something if they (his lawyers) asked him to, though

>>66371263
Pretty sure he's legible for the 2nd home visa, 5-10 years stay, income-taxed.
He also talked about having living in there for a long while already and the digital nomad one is 6 months top.

>>66371160
This isn't even tax evasion you absolute retard. Tax evasion is when you move around, hide, or obfuscate your income. Moving to a country that has no taxes is not tax evasion
That's like saying anyone who moves to Florida is committing tax evasion on their state income tax. No he just moved to a place that won't tax him

>if it was that easy to tax evade no one would be paying shit.
Because the trade off is moving to fucking Indonesia. That's not "easy"

>>66367893
Yeah he's fairly nice most of the time but he's dumb as bricks

>>66372615
He's already in tax debt. He 'has' unpaid taxes no matter where he moves.

>>66367660
Classic vshojo slime lol

>>66371699
Does Mika count as him buying property?

>>66372675
Why doesn't he stop being a retard and just pay the taxes?

>>66367660
>he moved to tax evade
He moved for that spicy indonesian M*ka puss

>>66372744
Apparently, he decided to buy land.

>>66372615
why the fuck do you think he won't have to pay taxes because he is working abroad? do you think you can just move out to another country and no longer pay for anything? foreign income is taxed, and in the UK is no different.

>>66370714
I don't think they send you to jail for unpaid taxes, they seize your bank accounts and valuables and put you into bankruptcy if that's not enough to cover what you owe
https://www.gov.uk/guidance/what-will-happen-if-you-do-not-pay-your-tax-bill

>>66372744
he probably spent it all, left it to build up more interest and cant afford to

>>66367852
God he's so stupid, thank God Vshojo is under Mouse and Kson

>>66372442
>bro, lmao I'm literally paying less money for some reason
That's the most based reason of all though. Fuck taxes and fuck giving a fuck about paying taxes

>>66372744
He had enough income that he should have ended up in the higher rate band (40%) so if he spent more than 60% of the money he presumably can't afford to

>>66372675
He says he's going to pay those, the moving to Indonesia thing has nothing to do with that unless he's lying and evading the authorities.

>>66372565
The digital nomad visa is viable for 5 years. The 2nd home Visa is certainly also a possibility though. I suppose we'll just have to see if he elaborates on it later.

If the UK were to garnish his wages, wouldn't this just be straight up tax evasion?

>>66372918
It was tax evasion, but HMRC are surprisingly nice about people doing it by accident as long as they figure out a way to pay them when they get caught

>>66372881
He has assets, just get a bank loan or refinance some stuff and pay. It's better to be un debt to creditors than to the gov't

>>66367660
Smart and based

>>66372715
Based

>>66372958
IRS is the same way. In fact even if you do it deliberately they're pretty nice, you'll probably have to pay penalties but overall they're just interested in getting the money, not assraping you for tax avoidance.

>>66371988
The one year but can be extended again every year, up to a maximum of five.

>>66372744
>has money for land in UK
>has money for a vacation in bali
>has moeny to move to another country
>no money for taxes though
>pls give 300k this subathon
Anon, don't be so naive.

https://twitter.com/k9_kuro/status/1744773236758561131
he's doing damage control now, he realizes he's fucked up kek

>>66373069
Okay so he's just a tax evading scum hussy

>>66373110
is it downs syndrome?

>>66373069
The funny part is him getting 300k means Twitch gets at least 100k

>>66370429
Mika and him are shacking together

>>66373161
Probably in this thread trying to glean info on how fucked or not fucked he is

>>66370541
Number monkeys aren't even talking about this kek

>>66373144
It's actually very understandable how he got into this situation. Most people in the UK with regular wagie jobs will have their taxes taken automatically via a system called PAYE - you could go your entire life without ever doing any tax paperwork or talking to HMRC once. It simply didn't occur to him to go read up on the tax implications of going from that to getting paid directly by a foreign company that's not using PAYE.

>>66373161
He's a flip. So yes.

>>66373223
bro had to write his numbers on a word document and send an email, how hard...

>>66373110
When this man tries to picture an apple in his head, nothing appears.

>>66373223
Mods clean up the other type of yab and honestly not a secret. He is fine. Lucky guy though makes a smokey shit hole of a country more comfy.

>>66373069
he wouldn't have had the money for the land if he actually paid his taxes, although I wonder if his mom also moved to indonesia or if he left her to deal with HMRC's collectors while he blows Mika's back out

>>66373256
That's pretty much it. Not the first streamer that it has happened to. On the other hand the other streamer was still significantly more responsible with their money.

>>66373256
I can get that, new rich usually run into tax problems. But moving to ID just to lessen his tax burden as a UK citizen? Bruh.

>>66373355
His mom's still in the UK

>>66368352
It's both, for that very reason. There's only one way to avoid the Senpai Tax.

I thought the land he bought was in the Flipland??? And that she's there as well? Turns out he bought it in Bongland?

>Vshojo's audience is browns. (Twitch con has proven this).
>So 1 Vshojo moves to Indonesia.
What the hell are you discussing?

>>66367736
>>66367726
Based

>>66367893
>>66372635
fuck off obese faggotbeggars

>>66371699
ok, and now actually read the article. "the Indonesian government announced that a Second Home Visa...". 3 years ago, the tourism ministy "suggested" a tax free nomad thingy, but that one went nowhere

>>66367843
I mean I'd be fucking Mika.

>>66373069
>VShojo grifting
Guess he learned from mousey that lying to your fans is the easiest way to make money.
Think he'll develop an adult onset chronic disease soon?

Ppl in this thread are just as dumb as he is. It's a work visa. He will stay and work for X time and pays taxes there.

>>66367660
tax evasion is based

>>66373161
You weren't there in August brother, he has been a retard for so long that I genuinely wonder if he's mentally deficient.

>>66373729
still seething that she won the awards, huh?

>>66373735
Nigga he works for Vshojo

>>66367660
lmao so much for Vshojo doing anything about it

Wow you can just move to a different country and not pay taxes? LMAO.

>>66373729
kek, textbook vshojo

No amount of evading taxes is worth living in Indonesia.

>>66373729
Probably dementia from his ego shattering when he fully comes to terms with what he's become

>>66373850
this the nigger that though he didnt have to pay taxes on his income because it came from another country

>>66372744
Because he's literally retarded.

>>66373850
No, he presumably moved there because it's cheaper so he can save money to pay the back taxes that he still owes to His Majesty's Revenue & Customs

>>66373850
HOLY FUCK. The goverment is fucked when more people find out about this loophole

>>66373729
BASED BASED BASED

>>66372914
No digital nomad is 6 months only. "Planned for 5 years" since 2022, nothing happened to it.
Also the dude confirmed it's a kitas on twitter, aka the taxed 12 months stays, but you have to be sponsored by a spouse/company to be eligble for one.

>>66373866
You can marry multiple wives there.

>>66367660
Ultra-based tax evader.

>>66373998
>theyre all black

>>66373998
Can’t wait for Matara to make her way over to Indonesia so she can get a two-for-one special and establish her harem with kuro and mika

>>66373977
Well it's not a company unless there's a shell corp Vshojo ID, so he married Mika?

>>66373850
The United States has an insanely brutal law in this regard. Even living in a foreign county you must pay FULL US taxes.
Although just being a US citizen gets you a massive number of privileges on the international stage, you are like a VIP walking the earth. The US would literally start a war if another country did something to you.

>>66373161
Dude seems like he has a legit, non-meme room temperature IQ. That might seem funny and cute online but it's really not in person, often these people just stumble through life fucking everything up.

>>66374181
That's not really how it works, they have double taxation treaties with most countries. For example if you live in Japan you can offset up to 100% of your US taxes with taxes you paid there.

>>66374192
I’d make fun of him for it but I think I’m unironically the same, I’m fucking useless when it comes to legal shit, finance shit or basically anything not involving games. I’ll ask a question and everyone treats me like I’m asking how to drink water from a cup or something.

I’d absolutely be dead if my mum wasn’t looking out for me

Will Holobros believe us now when we say this fucker was always a stupid, loose-cannon who can't keep his mouth shut

>Collabing with someone doesn't mean we are fucking
>Mysta and Mika ended up together
What a great example for the future

>>66373223
Using 4chan as your tax lawyer: an extremely smart idea

Could he and Mika not evade taxes somewhere better than Jakarta though?

>>66374334
If you know what "citizenship" is you are unironically smarter than this guy.

>>66367660
>which is a blatant lie considering Indonesia doesn't allow dual citizenship
It could be a little more complex than that. I don't know if this is true for Indonesia specifically, but there are various countries which "require" you to renounce previous citizenships, but don't actually have a mechanism to enforce it, or even a way to declare it done. IIRC, Japan just requires that you "attempt" renunciation, whatever that means.
> Oh nooo, I got stuck in a US government phone maze and left a message, but they never called me back, like always.
>Looks like I can't stop being an American, and have de facto dual citizenship.
>I guess it can't be helped - holy shit I'm so Japanese already.
Whoopsy daisy. But this is probably just a case of Kuro not understanding either immigration or tax laws, just like everyone ITT, including me.

Who the fuck is Rebecca

>>66374408
Best way to evade taxes is not evade and just practice tax avoidance which is figuring out legally how to pay less ahead of time and planning accordingly.

>>66374373
Holobro here. I knew this man was dumb as bricks when he tried to convince chat that savings accounts were scams.

>>66374373
He's stupid but definitely not evil and responsible for all your problems like you paint him to be.

>>66374334
All he needed to do was google "UK foreign income", click on the first link - https://www.gov.uk/tax-foreign-income - and read copy that is quite literally written to be understood by people with a room temperature IQ

>>66374505
>he tried to convince chat that savings accounts were scams
????????

>>66374480

>>66374553
bro literally needed to put his number on a sheet, email it then click the link on the return email and pay the said amount

>>66374571
The bank associate came on too hard with the sales pitch trying to make him get a savings account too when he opened a checking account, so he assumed it must be a scam somehow.

>>66374192
Bro thought savings accounts were scams, he's obviously retarded

>>66367660
>vshojo made it happen
Can they ship Froot off to some other country too then? Afghanistan sounds nice to me.

>>66374619
Tbf if the country's banks' savings interest rate is set than the inflation rate it kind of is a scam.

>>66374587
Does anyone have a picture of her feet saved?

>>66374672
she still needs to pay for her charity faggotry

>>66367660
Based but Indonesia has an extradition pact with the UK.

this just seems like it will backfire so fucking ahrd for him.
specially becasue he is moving from uk, to indonesia while working for an american company. And the word working is pretty loose.
on any audit this is gonna make people ask questions.

>>66374755
hes already been audited HMRC will get him on his way back or they employ international recovery services

>>66374755
If it doesn't backfire good for him
If it does backfire good for me because it'll be funny

>>66374587
Wtf

>>66370700
No? he would only be liable for UK tax on any income he makes INDSIDE the UK for example rental income or a business registered inside the UK. If he's resident in Indonesia and he's paying tax there on what he's earning while there then he's not liable for UK taxes.

>>66374854
women are scary

why not just pay the fucking money

>>66374755
It's possible to navigate complex tax situations like this but it's certainly not particularly easy, not even close to as easy as usual Pay As You Earn. Hopefully he has decent advice from somewhere.

>>66374410
I know what it is but I also don’t really at the same time. It just means you’re like an official resident or something right?
>>66374553
Yeah but like I wouldn’t even think about doing that if I moved countries or whatever, I’d just assume I’d get an email about it or like that someone would tell me that I’d need to get it sorted or someone would do most of it for me and then I’d just have to fill out bits and pieces of it or whatever.

Gunrun has his bussy on a leash now.

>>66374943
Only advice he needs is put 60% of his income in savings and pay the damn taxes when the time comes.

>>66374373
That isn't news to me, but I'm also a homo enjoyer, so I get exposed to him now and then. I'm not very familiar with him, but he's never seemed malicious, just a little fucked in the head. Perhaps a bit sheltered, and therefore uninformed. Overall harmless.

>>66367693
spbp

>>66374703
It's more like it's a bad investment.

>>66371071
The US is literally one of the only countries that does this lol. A UK citizen living abroad and earning money abroad is not liable for UK taxes on that money. You still have to pay taxes on money earned INSIDE the UK like a UK rental property for example that you still keep while living abroad. But you would only be liable for taxes on that rental income and not anything earned in another country.

>>66374587
I can fix her

>>66375011
>LOOK IM TAX EVADING AHAHA
being this fucking shameless is malicious imo. Not really the best eample for his viewers but then again he doesnt have that much anymore.

i'd move to indonesia too if it meant filling all of mika's holes

>>66375100
It's perfectly legal and helps him get out of debt. Seems like a reasonable choice to do it then.

>>66374966
SEX

>>66375194
are nipples allowed on /vt/

>>66375183
>It's perfectly legal
It's not. He owes money and he moved to avoid making payments.

Bro you have the money to buy all this vtuber/streamer shit and to move to another fuckin country just pay the money lmao

>>66375270
He didn't move to avoid payments, retard.

>>66375194
its like she was made for choking sex

>>66371861
Someone earning as much money as him is not submitting their own tax returns. Or he shouldn't be... you appoint an accountant to do that for you. I'm assuming that the problem he had with accountants before was that Niji hired Jap accountants that didn't understand UK tax law lmao.

>>66375232
no. enjoy your 3 day vacay

>>66375232
nipples covered by clothing sure are

>>66375194
Lovey dovey bareback sex with cute Indonesian girls

>>66375296
he works for griftshojo now, lying and cheating is part of his contract
see mousey

>>66375296
he is a cheapsteak
mofo can buy a 3d model but paying taxes make him piss his pants.

>>66374587
i can't fix her

>>66375353
I'm not the guy who posted it, I was just asking

>>66375333
he hired his own accountant niji doesnt gie you acountatns. the tax shit is ENTIRELLY on him.

>>66375396
Well if you ever change your mind she's namefagging with her gmail address, having schizo meltdowns and begging for a man that doesn't hate women.

>>66375371
It's "cheapskate", anon.

>>66375424
Nijisanji recommends accountants, Mysta's just retarded

>>66373186
Well twitch only takes a % of subs. Bit dono's go 100% to the streamer as twitch takes their percentage when the user buys the bits not when they use them to tip. Off platform dono's he get's 100% too so Twitch is getting nowhere near that %age.

>>66375318
Anon, why do you think he got a residency visa that allows him to defer foreign income taxes?

>>66375357
She needs to get ANGLO'd

>>66367843
>>66369486
I still remember when that handcam collab was happening with Mika and everyone in the thread watching said it was an off-collab but Rebecca denied it SO HARD. She just would not believe that it was an off-collab no matter what people were saying, and then their hands appeared on the same screen and Mysta renamed the stream to "Off-Collab". Shit was too hilarious.

>>66375576
Because it's cheaper. He's still gonna pay his debt.

>>66373379
I mean it's a good decision if you like the country. Pay less taxes and the money you earn goes way further because ID cost of living is WAY lower than the UK.

>>66367660
Should Vshojo also be investigated by the IRS? They'd love to hear about this. Aren't they based on the west coast?

>>66367660
Tax evasion is based and always morally permitted

>>66375647
He's on record saying that he doesn't have the money. He's currently planning a subathon to raise what he needs.

>>66373110
you also NEED to tell the HRMC or whatever is called that you are moving aborad indefinitely or for at least a year for business to not pay uk tax but mysta is sucha lier i dont know if he is just playing a character or he is that fucking stupid to say that shit in public.

>>66373069
>300k subathon
jesus fuck

>>66373825
And? Vshojo can sponsor a Visa in Indo just like any other company can. He is a UK citizen so doesn't have to pay UK taxes on anything he earns while living there, he just pays taxes in Indonesia.

>300k subathon
i wouldnt have a problem if this was for charity but this is just to pay taxes
isnt this kind of...shamefull for chuba standards?

>>66368352
is it possible that he is just there to avoid further taxes while he pays off what he owes? plus, I am assuming the cost of living out there is cheaper, so that would help save up more money in the long run.

>>66375828
>vshojo
>standards
come the fuck on.jpg

>>66373850
>>66373946
Well yes. UK citizens living abroad like him don't have to pay UK taxes on money they earn while resident in another country, they just pay the local taxes. He still owes the unpaid taxes from when he was working at Niji but ID is cheaper to live in both on taxes and cost of living, so he can probably pay back more by living there.

>>66375100
It's not tax evasion though. Remember when Mori paid double tax to Japan and America, because she didn't understand that she didn't have to pay taxes on income earned abroad until a certain ($100,000, I think) threshold? It's the same shit.
>>66371071
You too. Make sure you aren't paying more than the IRS will destroy you for.

>>66375771
>Vshojo can sponsor a Visa in Indo just like any other company can.
this is what i dont get, what kind of lies is VS saying to give kuro a visa for fucking indonesia when they have literally no presences, business or anything there and all the work is fucking remote?

>>66372415
hungary is relatively recent, no?
i feel like it was just burgers and 3rd world shitholes at some point

So apparently it's illegal to work while having a KITAS second home visa since the purpose for it is retirement. Lmao Kuro is screwed.

>>66375842
If he’s planning on visiting her mother is possible that’s his plan, probably better than staying in the UK and having to deal with more expensive and shittier taxes. And just come back with a certain amount once he wants to live in the UK

>>66373900
Most people in the UK with jobs will NEVER have to pay their own taxes. UK uses a system called PAYE which takes taxes automatically out of your pay check every month. 90% of people in the UK have never filed a tax return. He was probably to stupid to realise that was something he had to do as self employed and assumed they would take it automatically.

>>66375828
Nothing too shameful for a retard with no understanding of money and little to lose from begging.

>>66375828
It would be more shameful to not pay off your debt.

>>66375984
Nope, not at all. I'm no expert but I believe KITAS is actually the legal tax resident visa, he could go get a job from an Indonesian company and everything if he wanted to. If he's there for a few years with it, he can turn it into permanent legal residency.

>>66375984
Vshojo truly is the retirement home for vtubers

>>66375994
Nah, a lot of people new to self employment are just bad with money and don't set aside money for taxes even though they're aware of it

That's fucking hilarious. Will his fans pay his taxes? I can't stop laughing.

>>66376131
So like every vtuber?

>>66375984
He is already evading taxes, another crime or two wont hurt

>>66376131
Nigga if you are a Vtuber fan and you are currently watching one or donating to them, you are still paying for someone’s taxes, moron kek

>>66376179
Nothing he said implies any sort of crime, you can do all this stuff legally, it's just a bit more complex.
I get this weird feeling a lot of posters on this board have never had a real job or paid taxes

>>66374733
They don't request extradition for fucking unpaid taxes lmfao. They will just make him pay, at worst they will fine him. If he doesn't pay/can't pay they will force him into bankruptcy in the UK.

>>66376131
I hope the entire company and others get audited like the trend of reporting titty streamers to the IRS and getting them financially destroyed and even prison time. This should the new trend

>>66376239
It’s not weird, most people here don’t have a grasp of all the crazy bullshit you can do legally with the right financial advisor. We are under /vt/ at the end of the day not /biz/

>>66375751
Yes so he moved to ID which is cheaper, enabling him to save more money and pay his back taxes faster? He's not evading anything as he is not currently liable for UK taxes on money he earns while resident in ID. As long as he pays back his unpaid tax liability within the timeframe they have given him he is 100% fine. Even then they usually allow extension on payment timeframes.

One man gets his company investigated for tax fraud. Very impressive

>>66375752
I would assume the accountants that Gunrun got him have done this, but you never know lmao.

everyone is arguing about whether he's doing this for tax evasion and tax evasion purposes when the answer is super clear and obvious. he's definitely pinning mika down to the pillows prone bone. we're going to see magnitude 6.9 earthquakes registered around the globe as his groin violently claps against her delicious brown cheeks in the epicenter of jakarta. raw, no condom, doggystyle, missionary, full nelson, you name it

>>66375828
Fucking hell how much did he make to have to pay 300k in taxes?

>>66375684
Why the fuck you the IRS investigate the earnings of someone who is not a US citizen. Kuro is from the UK so he owes taxes to HMRC. Vshojo doesn't pay him, he owns all his own accounts and is liable for all his own taxes.

>>66367852
Is this what they call a "Himbo"?

>>66376529
This is probably from years of back taxes and it pretty much doubles and more when you don't pay up or file, even worse if you don't file or file late. So you always should be paying at least a tiny amount and setting up a payment plan so fines don't stack up and file on time even if you can't pay the full amount.

>>66375903
They don't need to lie, there is such a thing as a Digital Nomad Visa.

>>66376511
She deserves better

I haven't paid taxes in 8 years and government is ignoring me. Should i do something? I have a legal job, i buy shit, go to the doctor etc. I even called and checked, im 100% clean. Germany.

>>66376266
Why would the IRS audit them because of this. Kuro is from the UK not the US. Vshojo does not pay him, he owns all his own accounts and is responsible for all his own taxes.

>>66374181
>>66374213
Please clarify

>>66376239
>never had a real job or paid taxes
Not to mention how many are speculating on tax laws of countries they don't live in.
>>66376339
>crazy bullshit you can do legally
To be fair, a lot of that is "legally" dancing in the gray areas, doing something that's supposed to be impossible. The "right" financial advisor is someone willing to play that game.
>/biz/
More anons know their shit there, but many don't. Maybe most. Lots of tourists, foreign and domestic, looking to get rich quick in a dying global economy.

>>66376700
Not true, the interest rate on unpaid taxes in the UK is 7.75%. it doesn't double lmfao.

>>66376662
Technically, though himbos are generally assumed to be muscular.

>142 IPs
Jesus Christ this board really fucking loves drama. And with all the shipfagging, lusting over mika's model, and calling anyone who dislikes mika a "jealous sister", you can't blame all this dramafagging on women. It's all men here posting.

>>66374334
>>66374966
I normally say this as a joke but you're literally me

>>66376989
If you're a US citizen, the IRS wants to tax your income regardless of where you are in the world. However, they have treaties with numerous countries that mean your US taxes are reduced by the amount you paid in taxes in that country. So, if you paid $100 in taxes in Japan your tax bill in the US is reduced by $100.

>>66377131
I'm a guy who's interested in the legal and financial ramifications of the situation. I don't especially care about Kuro himself one way or another.

>>66367660
Corporations take advantage of every tax loophole, but an individual doing it is wrong?

>>66377167
Thanks

>>66373069
>300k
Jesus if he just kept up with the fujobaiting and sucked it up instead of being anal about people drawing fictional art about his fictional persona, he could have easily paid this off in a month or two. God if I were in Hololive I'd do the fakest GFE yuribaiting pandering ever if it meant I got to make even half that amount and live like a queen.

>>66376529
I used the official take UK tax calculator and with some rudimentary napkin math it turned he made roughly between 600k 670k USD. It's probably less since he was delinquent on his payments and the interest compounded.

>>66367660
Bank of America is in Cayman Islands. How do so many corporations fit on that small island?

>>66377131
>Jesus Christ this board really fucking loves drama
you figuring this out now?

>>66374373
>b-b-b-but he's based because he makes the sisters seethe!!! A-a-and he said something bad about nijisanji I think. I don't know I just follow what everyone else wants me to think

>>66376131
What fans? He told all the ones with money to fuck off. Good luck to him finding anyone who would watch him. Twitter likes don't turn into dollars.

>>66377571
No, just pointing it out.

>>66370661
Even back in 2013 my tour guide there mentions how a russian tourist injured himself by not minding warnings from the guide

>>66369929
and make sure you keep your piggy bank safe from any long-handed squirrels out there

>>66376511
>fucked by a twink

lol lmao

>>66374383
I'm pretty sure several VirtuaReal vtubers have actually gotten married after first meeting up with each other in the company. Of course there's the EN couple of Nyanners and Lord Aethelstan who also met through vtubing.

>>66376913
comes out your pay

>>66377131
im here to see the londoner suffer

mampir ke /warkop/ ges
continue discussing it there

>>66373069
I guess it wasn’t a good career decision to tell your fujo paypigs to fuck off before the subathon

>>66375490
cheap skate jimmy's

>>66376511
I can already see the headlines
>british fembo causes rapid increase in the rate of jakarta sinking due to unprecedented seismic activities