/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

>>66322060
QRD!???

>>66322060
Mindbroken shizos leaving is a blessing for any fanbase. She's been doing well because the people throwing a shitfit at the slightest inconvenience left for the next shiny thing.

>>66322060
HoloEN contract renewals were extremely heated this winter and I suspect that Kronii was thinking of leaving. Would have looked bad to start having EN talents leave for VShojo so management is slowly working out a deal. Vesper wasn't the only talent that wanted a redesign.

>>66322060
don't care never forget never forgive
am not a gamma/beta cuck
>>66323388
one can only dream of them leaving

I will forgive her if she does a femdom ASMR stream.

I don't want a sexy ara-ara onee-san Kronii, I want a Kronii that plays chill indie games and eat strawberries and doesn't collab with homos

>>66322060
>No Homostars
>No Drama
She's happy now and I'm enjoying her streams a lot.

>>66323525
wtf is a gamma cuck? hulk?

>>66324757
does she still hides her model's tits behind the desk?

>>66322060
how is this humiliating? its just a model, not her
>>66323388
IRyS has said cover does not let girls change their height or booba size when doing 2.0 models. If given the choice 2.0RyS would have been pettan as fuck and only a cm taller than Bae

Kronii seems happier now, I am happy too

>>66322060
HoloEN has much better management right now, and that seems to have brought a stop to most of the yabs.

I don't really believe in any of the rrats, I just think the branch is being run a lot better and the girls are being guided away from doing stupid, view/revenue killing actions by a better management team.

>>66322060
She probably realized it was either that or going back to eating rotten subway with her lesbian clique while voicing lesbian VNs that like 5 people played and that pays less than minimum wage.

>>66323079
Yeah it was really good that those two homos got the boot.

>>66326170
So, does she still does this?: >>66325860

>>66326299
She stopped complaining because she gets moeny from vtubinh and is probably not leaving any time soon, not that she stop disliking her model, her audience and her job. Kronii is a super woke women anon.

>>66326299
Only on her OG outfit.

>>66326497
meh, then she's still an ironic weeb.

>>66326947
Kronii is the type of women that would call men boob fetishist, if you like her fine, watch her but dont be surprised if she ever turns on her audience. This isn't come cutesy quirky girl, you are talking about an unironic twitter wokefag that took the job because she needs money, not because she liked vtubing.

>>66326170
She was also working part-time as a waitress, which was a job she hated.

>>66326947
How does that make her an ironic weeb? Eveyone, in CouncilRyS wanted smaller boobs.

>>66322060
my wife fixed her and even forced her to stream mk yesterday

>>66327454
the only one i've seen complaining about the boobs is Kronii.
>>66327308
Don't worry i was just checking if she was worth it, but i still have 0 trust in her.

>>66324757
Unironically Mori is not going full retard by forcing more homo collabs to numberfag and dragging Kronii to ruin still.

>>66327308
Goddamn. Holo is the most sought after company. She got handed a slot other girls would fight over and this is how she repays it?

Real talk, if it came out that Kronii was forced into male colabs from the old management, would that change your perception of her?

>>66327308
>took the job because she needs money, not because she liked vtubing.
You got sauce for that, bro?

>>66331455
She was like a small time va or something so they probably thought she was a good fit.

>>66331839
Look you don't need sources when you make up shit to hate on someone

>>66331964
her RM had youtube shorts or tic tok with tons of views I think. Not 100% sure

>>66331964
she wasn't exactly small time. she was one of the better known amateur VAs. she wasn't big like mooms or fauna or irys, but she wasn't unknown either.

>>66323388
crazy how everyone on this board has tons of insider knowledge and knows the exact language of the agreement between holomems and cover sasuga

>>66332006
>all this flaccid seethe
kek

>>66333044
It's just a schizo that's been pushing the same retarded rrat for months

>"Kronii is totally better now guys" thread #54586

>>66323388
>HoloEN contract renewals were extremely heated this winter
source: It came to me in a dream

>>66333044
Contract drama is a meme at this point

>>66331621
Of course not since that'd be an obvious lie after all her posts and comments on the matter.
>>66326947
>>66327308
>>66331455
She's second gen korean immigrant in canada. It's pretty much ALL feminist options mashes together in an unholy cesspool of privileged woman moment bs. Her depression unironically helped settle her down a bit, otherwise I don't think she'd even rate for Holo.
>source: I did a deep dive on her three months after her debut which led me to dropping her like a hot potato

they don't call it homolive for nothing

>>66333415
Then i guess your 'deep dive' was shallow as fuck kek

>>66333415
Mental illness at work right here. Get some help, retard.

>clocucks seething when their badly-disguised shill thread gets derailed with actual info about the chuuba
You love to see it.

>>66322060
Yes, you can thank me later

>>66334464
>actual info

>>66322060
yes she's become much more horny

>>66327308
>Not because she liked vtubing
Oh, so like every member of HoloEN then

>>66323079
Yeah they became ruffians

>itt: Beta bitches still buckbroken by a badass babe.

>>66325877
Very good move, anything else would destroy the illusion

>>66331839
nta, i think that anon is bulshitting, but i can uderstand why he think that way. i feels like krooni solo stream is such a soulles and passionless slop that its not fun to watch, its like watching your friend bob doing his job, he didnt even do the bare minimum required because he didnt care about the company, the customer, or himself, the only thing he cared about is when the day is over and he can finally go home and have the oppportunity to partake in his favourite activites, cry himself to sleep.

>>66335595
Kronii is so relatable

>>66325860
so? if you want tits watch vshoujo or nijisanji you coomer virgin

>>66333044
all the shitposting is mori and kson

>>66323079
good for her that those two left Holo.

>>66331839
yeah, failed auditioners that had to audition for nijisanji cause their ugly asses couldn't get into hololive

>>66322060
It's only because none of the new holostars interest her. If there were another pair of fags her and mori could get obsessed with, we'd have monthly SQUAD streams like before and she would be making fun of the fans that don't like that. Nobody did anything to her and she hasn't changed, she's just not interested in the new guys (for now). If magni and vesper were still around she would basically collab with them more than the girls by now. Her and mori are those "I get along better with guys" types.

>>66324757
She still gives too much attention to her discord mods and clippers, and I don't necessarily enjoy that. I'm here to watch you not your mods and clippers

>>66323079
The extremists and schizos on both ends left, so the ones remaining are diehards and casuals.

>>66336928
You're saying I have a change if I become her discord mod?

>>66323388
Vesper didn't necessarily want a redesign, he required one by default because the original artist was MIA: presumed dead, and Cover needed to change things up entirely for legal IP related reasons going forward. Kronii "just wants" a redesign, but she doesn't need one for legal reasons.

>>66338028
I kinda understand, I wouldn't want to be a boobzilla either

>>66323079
The only ones left are her mods and attention whores who talk to her through superchat. Not much of a community.

>>66322060
IRyS cured her sexual repression by raping her until she started liking it

>>66339359
h-hot...

>>66322060
The thing about women is they can be Fixed, they just need structure and to be told to stop being a bitch or a whore or both
this is ironically why they think they can Fix men (they cant), its because their personality and attitude molds to whatever they like

>>66322060
how many heart emojis does kronii have to send wada before you guys think she might not hate her model

>>66322060
Promise taught her how fun being an idol can be.

>>66335072
biboo?

>>66339359
This succubus...

>>66322060
I got a huge rrat for what actually happed.
Kronii back during one of her first watch-a-longs mentioned that she applied for hololive because of a friend. We also later found out many months later that friend was getting married.
What happened was that Kronii was intending on continuing her VA career but a she found out a girl she had a crush on liked hololive. She applied and later joined in an attempt to woo her which is why she was both more active and confused about things in the first three months.
Eventually she found out that girl was dating someone else around december which led to her depression arc of just playing minecraft offline and never streaming.
She eventually starts recovering around march or April but she has spent most of her career in a haze which is why she doesn't know what the fuck is going on with her chat or their opinions on anything.
Come holostars she treats it like a chance to meet new coworkers and get more clips by showing how she is a friendly and kind senpai since she ruined that chance with nearly everyone that wasn't EN because she was depressed. This leads to backlash with chat because she hasn't been paying attention to anything and doesn't understand a lot of people hate coed stuff.
She goes a long with what Mori says because she's her senpai so she must know what she's doing (Lean and Airbnb arc shows she doesn't). It makes things worse.
Some point in November 2022 Vesper pops offs and burns the bridge between stars and EN. They do a couple more streams to keep up appearances but now you can't mention them in her chat anymore.
Kronii after a year has better understanding of hololive, has more connections with girls outside of council so she decides not to try befriending any of the other stars.
TDLR; Drepesseronii didn't know vtubers and thought it was like how VAs act with fellow VAs

>>66343677
lol

>>66344295
Honestly I definitely buy the first part.

>>66322060
Yeah now she gets blitzed off her ass before every stream so she's been coping with her chronic depression much better.

>>66344295
This could be an anime, someone pitch this to some anime studio

>>66344869
Sounds more like a yuri manga

>>66324757
The homo drama made her happier tho. She now enjoys being in HoloEN after coming to terms with her ironic idol identity.

>>66327308
Kronii is a closet sex pervert.

>>66327308
kronii loves her giant bazongas she just doesn't want it too obvious that she does

She hit rock bottom on the subway blend stream and decided to improve herself

>>66336720
I think manAMEgment put a break on the homo collabs because it was diluting the brand.

So the surgery is a vagina removal, right?

>>66336720
second and third gen debuting in what's essentially "Prep TIme for the Busiest Times of the Year" for the girls seems to be a passive wall against them. If they don't have time to watch their content at the start, it'll be perpetually put on the backburner to eventually being forgotten, thus never giving them an reason or opportunity to reach out.

it's more peaceful that way but ngl one of the new bastards feel like he would click into the SALT dynamic super well if it still existed, the only homo i can stomach for real.

>>66346103
It's boob enlargement. She is doing method acting now.

>>66325877
>IRyS has said cover does not let girls change their height or booba size when doing 2.0 models.
Cover might not have done that yet but they have changed the age with Aruran and the body type with Vesper. The early rule they had against model redesigns was thrown out the window a few years ago when they did that stealth redesign with Astel.

>>66338028
>Vesper didn't necessarily want a redesign, he required one by default because the original artist was MIA: presumed dead, and Cover needed to change things up entirely for legal IP related reasons going forward.
So you believe that Vesper coincidentally got a model that was closer to what he prefers several months after getting into a huge fight with management? That seems convenient and his original artist returned to twitter only a few weeks after his redesign.

>>66344295
That matches up with her constant comments on heartbreak.

>>66323540
Her goofy voice would be terrible for femdom (unless it's oneeshota)

>>66346040
nah, at the end of the day, it's because these collabs were primarily organized by either one of the tempiss boys (the main one who did them being gone now) or mori. what's left of the original tempiss gang who were apart of those og collabs is focusing on picking up the pieces and doing idol shit now, or trying to ""network"" in less hostile places. the rest of their branch are either introverted as fuck and are fine staying within holostars aside from the occasional ID collab or doing that goody-two-shoes thing where they don't want to bother their more busy senpai so they wait until the girl in question to drop the invitation, which they don't do anymore because they're Busy(tm).

This thread has refueled my schizo energy completely. Thank you all I can hear the voices again

>>66344295
So what's up with Advent then? Kronii's been almost actively avoiding them even though all those girls have reached out to her in some way and she still hasn't done any 1 on 1 collabs.

>>66344295
>huge rrat
Honestly one of the more reasonable rrats if you could even call it one. Doesn't really speculate too hard besides the part where she's trying to impress her friend but everything else lines up well enough with her attitude and stuff she's talked about.

She's better now and while I enjoy her humor during collabs, I still cringe at some of her interactions with chat which is honestly what puts me off from sticking around her streams for too long. It's one thing to have an entertaining personality (debatable still) but it's another if your chuuba treats her fanbase like hungry sex pests who like being talked down on. I honestly enjoyed Kronii more when she was just the type to have a chill stream while treating chat like some buddy she's casually hanging out with. Nowadays she leans more on "le ironic" banter with her sex-starved fans, which I get is appealing to some but it's just not for me.

As for the homos, I chalk that up to her having a woman moment, but regardless of how you think that shitshow went down, it really changed how she conducted herself (for better or worse).

>>66346921
Ame organized some of the collabs tho. She did change her mind at some point.

>>66348315
>I still cringe at some of her interactions with chat
That's because it's less interacting with chat, and more Kronii interacting with the same 20-30 members only to the point she'll name drop even outside superchats.
There's a reason the Kronii spreadsheet rrat is unkillable.

>>66349578
Schizo

>>66347419
Kronii has shown up in big collabs with Advent. When she does small collabs its usually with close friends like Irys.

>>66324566
>I want a Kronii that plays chill indie games
As if she's ever going to stop using Powerwash Simulator as an excuse to have a Just Chatting stream.

>>66349578
Teachers can easily remember the names of all children in their class. It's not a big feat.

>>66344295
Don't care, she never apologized meaning she believes she did nothing wrong

>>66344295
now this is a rrat I can parrot

I'm almost impressive how easy it is to make schizos go full lemming on this board by telling them an outright lie that they'll happily defend to their dying breath even if it doesn't match up with reality at all.

>>66349839
When the class is only 30 kids, that's expected of a teacher.
But when the class is 5000 kids, and the teacher only focuses on 30 kids still, that's a problem.

>>66350681
Stop being so whiny

>>66344295
>Kronii was intending on continuing her VA career
Her VA career was dead in the water after the one-two punch of a famous VA telling her she wasn't talented enough to make it professionally and never being able to gain entry into the online VA cool kids club (of which that person you mentioned she had a crush on was a member).

>>66351185
qrd?

>>66349923
>she never apologized meaning she she did nothing wrong*

>>66350681
It's impossible to remember more than 100 names.

>>66344295
>>66351185
You know, I did feel like Kronii's been more in-character in the last few months. And she's been less shy about doing silly voices.
Truly, the best rrats have little nuggets of truth inside them.

>>66344295
I buy the first part

>>66351445
This is why you treat chat as a single entity and not individuals.

>>66351185
She lucked out, the VA cool kids table is majority backstabbing ankle biters

>>66344295
This is fucking stupid
>first 3 months
she said she was a depressed wreck on debut and that was just bullshit kayfabe, Kronii and not kronii have never mentioned having a girlfriend and only mentioned liking girls on a tumblr post back in 2018, she wasn't depressed she's always had low streaming hours.
>She eventually starts recovering around march or April but she has spent most of her career in a haze which is why she doesn't know what the fuck is going on with her chat or their opinions on anything.
she knows her fanbase she listened to them about the minecraft issue and even has "the spreadsheet" she's not ignorant.
>Come holostars she treats it like a chance to meet new coworkers and get more clips by showing how she is a friendly and kind senpai since she ruined that chance with nearly everyone that wasn't EN because she was depressed.
She ignored them until the Dead By Daylight collab that she snuck in before posting her schedule and before that she got visited by Mori despite the fact that she only had one collab before that and little interaction in between. Then she had the infamous unarchived member stream which showed her true intentions (seriously no one has watched that, it's so damning), All that shows she was wanted to own the haters but was hesitant to do so until mori approached her but she herself agreed.
>Some point in November 2022 Vesper pops offs and burns the bridge between stars and EN. They do a couple more streams to keep up appearances but now you can't mention them in her chat anymore.
Vesper was in her chat during December outfit reveal showing they were talking off stream, the spider gag was probably his idea as well as Kroroulette, they had collabs at least once a month until Vesper and Magni decided they wanted out. you can't mention him in chat because her mods are draconian and nuke anything that could stir up shit, they even stepped out of line and Kronii had to ffix there mistake.
>Kronii after a year has better understanding of hololive, has more connections with girls outside of council so she decides not to try befriending any of the other stars.
Kronii has always had good standing with the rest of hololive including JP and ID, she's always known holo is about and has always hated it, she isn't befriending the other stars because she's gained wisdom it's because she's being stopped by the stars or EN management.
>TDLR; Drepesseronii didn't know vtubers and thought it was like how VAs act with fellow VAs
She used to be a Vtuber before hololive.

You're tryinng to paint a picture that Kronii was naive but that just shows how little you know, Kronii has always known and hated hololive culture that's why her fans have to fight tooth and nail to get her to the bare minimum. The squad collabs were always meant to anti-hololive collabs, they were united in their hate, supported by hololive antis, and only by hololive culture were they split up.

>>66351900
>doesn't know about her getting finger blasted by Twitch vtuber
How do you even function

>>66322060
>>66330164
the only male she really wanted to collab with graduated. that should put your weak mind at ease, right?

>>66351951
Does this count as functioning? If we had eugenics we'd end the pain of people like that.

>>66351900
>>66344295
the girlfriend think is also part of why she was so confused when people flipped out about her fag enabling. Like she assumed everyone knows she is a dyke and hates cock so she was shocked that people don't like watching cuckold content because sis didn't think it was cuckshit because he hates penis

>>66352129
I still laugh at Mori losing to Gura, so now Mori can only do cringe worthy 1 on 1 collabs with Kronii in games that were clearly designed for 4 people and she'd have the homos join them if they didn't get terminated.

>>66346315
>Aruran and the body type with Vesper.
I don't know who either of those faggots are. IRyS only had 2.0rys a hair over a year ago

>>66352246
>>66330164
>its totally timezones and not all the other girls not liking her as to why mori streams 4 player games with 1 person so often.
bitch is fluent in jp, how the fuck can she not even get chloe or la+ to stream with her?

>>66352224
That's why her and her gachis were/are retarded. Straight guys believe lesbians are just women that haven't found the right guy yet, so unless the other guy is full blown gay it's still potential cuck territory. The gachis would've probably been okay with a gay guy, the jokes about Kronii being male aside, but no straight fans are going to watch unless gay dude is legit funny. But even then it's a bad move since any gay collaber is in it solely for the purpose of trying to steal her gachis. The optimal solution is just avoid male collabs unless you're okay with and ready for losing your core fans, which she clearly wasn't.

>>66352648
I'm a unicorn and want homostars to all be graduated. But the Kronii clip where she is like
>you guys know me
I think she was legitimately confused because she just assumed all her viewers knew she is a dyke and wouldn't be bothered because she is gay so she wouldn't be sucking cock anyway.
Like Mori and Ame seemed to be going out of their way to piss their fans off. Kronii and Bae just come off as retards

remaining kronii fans be like
https://files.catbox.moe/of0tsx.png

>>66351900
then why did she apply for Hololive, retard? some of her actions clearly suggest ignorance, not malice.

I can't believe I used to hate her so much and now she's my most watched

>>66354007
Remember, anon: extreme love and extreme hate are essentially the same thing. The most devoted fans always become the most rabid antis.

>>66352648
>>66353617
I'm pretty sure it's not that she assumed they knew she's a dyke, she just really didn't know that they're bothered by male collabs.

>>66353617
I mean without roommate info it’s literally impossible to know she’s a dyke so I doubt she expected her fans to know that

>>66351951
QRD?

>>66354453
>>66354424
she literally fingered Ina during a stream
https://streamable.com/x8yk5k
I bet she came /here/ at some point saw the people /here/ calling her a dyke and assumed everyone knew

>>66353617
Kronii was a perfect storm of nativity about her audience (Assuming they have female friends, let along speak to them.) and getting the worst possible advice (Because, it came from Mori)

>>66352246
QRD on this RRAT?

>>66354315
And vice-versa

>>66354621
Not even a rrat.
Look up all of Mori's collabs with Kronii since the homos in Mori's clique got fired.
They're been
>Devour
>The Backrooms
>Lethal Company
All 4 player games.

>>66354742
Then, what's Gura have to do with it?

>>66352545
>bitch is fluent in jp
Mori has conversational Japanese skills, I would not call her fluent by any stretch...

>>66354778
'CGDCT 'Gura vs 'Homo Popular Demand' Mori
Look at who Dimitri Jap is repeating.
Gura won the war.

>>66354621
Gura was pissed off about how they were doing EN homos for whatever reason. Might have had do do with less resources for the girls might have had to do with her knowing her fans would hate them. So she went out of her way to change all her bios to saying she was an idol. Literally never brought up the fags even when Fauna and Ina did. And Gura after not streaming for like 2 weeks, did a members' stream where she announced she was going to stream over the fags debuts (didnt mention the fags, but purposely gave the times of their debuts) before being told she couldn't. she streamed after the ones on the first day and then didn't stream again for 2 more weeks.
The rrat is that there were 2 factions, one lead by mori and one lead by gura. the mori faction wanted to turn EN into a coed branch like niji or vshitsho. the Gura faction wanted it to be only girls ever.
the issue is Mori (and Kiara) are both autistic bitches with really abrasive personalities and if they are not going out of their way to not be a bitch they end up alienating everyone. Mori ended up pissing off basically everyone other than Kronii and now she only ever streams with Kronii and advent and the occasional JP fags, not even the EN ones because whatever happened to get the 2 faggots fired the rest of the EN fags have refused to fag collab with the EN girls. Like to the point when the fag beggars harassed the one homo into watching barbie with Bae because "he promised" he acted like they were giving him a root canal even though I am sure Bae was totally down to do the fag collab.

>>66322060

>>66344295
>anon just makes shit up
>12 people say "yeah that seems right"

>>66354952
To add some interesting nuggets.
Mori constantly visited Kronii while she was a shut in Japan since that's who Kronii is, so she follows Mori's requests because of that.
And management banned Mori from interacting with Advent when they were still in training, showing they wised up to the terrible advice Mori gave to Kronii.

>>66323388
Anon you've been trying to push this rrat for months now and noone is buying it, just stop.

>>66327308
Stop being a member on 2021 and unsubbed

>>66349788
>As if she's ever going to stop using Powerwash Simulator as an excuse to have a Just Chatting stream.
anon, have you ever watched one of those streams? she 100% the game before ever streaming it, she's a fan

>>66354573
>literally
sure, man, whatever you say.

>>66344295
/thread

>>66355125
that was so fucking funny when Mori said she hadn't met advent because it wasn't allowed for the girls to talk to advent and then like an hour later IRyS or someone said she had been talking to advent for months.

>>66355021
you do realize this is how like 99% of the shit you read in history books works

>>66349788
>>66355260
>gura's power wash stream where she talks about eating sand and how she was almost on a kids show
the funniest thing about it is she brought up eating sand one time and chat said >oh like you ate dirt because she ate dirt on stream and she was like
>who told you I ate dirt, I share too much info with you
all offended and horrified chat knew she ate dirt, after talking about eating sand 30 seconds prior
>>66355384
tell me what is happening in the clip and what kronii is saying

>>66351900
>Disliking a whore = anti

>>66354952
>random Kiara seethe all of a sudden

>>66352545
>>66354952
Do you seriously believe Mori is disliked by any of holos?

>>66354952
>The rrat is that there were 2 factions, one lead by mori and one lead by gura
Mori doesn't have the willpower or the mental fortitude to lead a faction or fight for a cause. It's pretty obvious that Omegatranny was an actual sexist who prioritized Tempus over the girls. The real war was between Omegatranny and various members of EN. Mori, Ame, Kronii, and Bae were happy to be submissive little bimbos and kneel to Tempus but others weren't. And tl;dr the CGDCT faction won and Omegatranny got purged. The girls have no hard feelings toward each other because the fight was never really between them.

>>66355613
>all offended and horrified
tell me you're not a chumbud without telling me you're not a chumbud. Gura loves playing the coy brat, she thought that was funny and embarrassing which turns her on

>>66354517

>>66351900
>she got visited by Mori... Then she had the infamous unarchived member
That's literally not true. The entire Kronii debacle (and it's conclusion) was until September 19 and Mori didn't visit her until September 30. Mori was in Japan at the time and Kronii was in Canada.

Spa trip invitation (September 4, 2022)
https://twitter.com/moricalliope/status/1566387563216089088

Mori pre-flight (September 20, 2022)
https://twitter.com/moricalliope/status/1572005114348539904

Spa trip plans done (September 28, 2022)
https://twitter.com/moricalliope/status/1575029433710223360

Spa trip itself (September 30, 2022)
https://twitter.com/moricalliope/status/1575811591249223680

Vs:

Aftermath of the Kronii thing with the official Cover announcement (September 19, 2022)
https://twitter.com/hololivepro_EN/status/1571745933754503168

Why do you "clarify things" for Kronii then spread blatant lies about Mori?

>>66322060
she's really fun when she plays games so I'm glad there's no drama. That's the only thing I care about

>>66355904
Irystocrats and Kronies are insufferable. Their oshis cannot be accountable for their actions at any given moment

>>66355775
>>66355789
Kiara and Mori, by their own admission, act like autistic bitches and have a hard time making friends because they act terrible all the time. Kiara said she was mean to Gura the first year because she was jealous and was trying to correct that. Mori said she was a bitch to Kiara for the first 2 years and was going to try to correct that.
Both of them are unintentionally really fucking off putting because of their autism

>>66356071
>Kiara and Mori, by their own admission
Post stream and timestamp

>>66355561
based retard

>>66356087
Kiara was during some anniversary/time capsule stream, probably like jan 2022. Mori was during a watchalong of fes or connect the world when Kiara was singing

>>66356112
In verbatim?

>>66356071
>still seething about Kiara for literally no reason
kek
>Kiara said she was mean to Gura the first year
Kiara never said that.
>Mori said she was a bitch to Kiara
Mori did basically say that.

>>66355817
Mori absolutely gave Mumei and Kronii shit advice over dealing with the homos lead to the mumei collab early on and mori tweeting >winner winner chicken dinner after Kronii said she would continue to fag collab.

>>66356135
>Mori absolutely gave Mumei and Kronii shit advice over dealing with the homos
Proof?

>>66356135
So now you are blaming Mori for Mumeis one homo collab? Come on, man.

>>66356071
>Kiara said she was mean to Gura the first year because she was jealous
Not true, she was not mean to her.
Just shy and scared to approach her.

>>66356128
>>66356131
>>66356157
holy shit you south east asian jew.
also mori did the winner winner chicken dinner tweet the second kronii tweeted she would fag enable and mori was the myth who hung out with mumei the most when mumei did the fag collab.

>>66324566
And I want dommy mommy Kronii but you can't always get what you want

>>66351900
>they even stepped out of line and Kronii had to ffix there mistake.
Actually Kronii's mods are pro homo. They started systematically shadow banning kronies who posted /here/ after Vesper and Magni got suspended, but before their terminations were announced. Clearly a preemptive retaliation out of spite since a vast majority of the /here/ kronies dispise the homos.
The only bright point is Kronii was unaware of these bans and reverted them after she found out.

>>66356207
I don't really care about Mori desu. I just don't like you making up lies about things Kiara never said.

>>66356207
>mori did the winner winner chicken dinner tweet the second kronii
You mean a day later? When her roommate had a concert and some meetup beforehand? And one the Fake Type's guys birthday?

>>66356267
If he makes shit up about Kiara, it's very likely makes shit up about Mori and anyone too.

>>66356267
you are a fucking south east asian jewish newfag. she literally said she had one friend in school and that she was jealous of gura and was trying to get over it
>>66356334
samefag

>>66356021
Kronii and IRyS have never done anything wrong.

>>66356345
What does "literally" mean here? Actual literally or are you stretching what was actually said again?

She was brought to heel

>>66356345
Kiara never at any point said she was mean to Gura. That's something you invented. Try again.

>>66354952
There's 0 change Kiara would be team mori here

>>66356345
She said she was intimidated by Gura for the first year you silly faggot.

>>66356357
for sure bro

>>66354453
Yeah but everyone knows the va behind a cartoon character and what they‘re like, which is probably what kronii expected vtubing to be similar to.

>>66355613
You can't seriously belief Kronii is fingering Ina in a room with 3 other people

>>66356478
List their wrongs then

>>66356505
who would stop her?

>>66356540
common sense

>>66356431
I'm not saying Kiara was pro fag. I am saying Kiara has a personality that is hard to get along with, like Mori. Both of them said they literally had 1 friend in school

>>66356562
>Both of them said they literally had 1 friend in school
That's 1 more friend than I had.

>>66356379
>>66356416
>>66356448
>no, the girl who was shouting over collabs at the start of myth who said she only had one friend in school totally was acting normal to Gura and that is totally not why she course corrected so hard to be as nice to Gura as possible after that stream

>>66356561
so you think she was just rubbing Ina through her pants and grabbing her ass?

>>66356562
Yeah, it wasn't that she was in favor of fags. She is one of the few in the EN branch who grasps she works for a Japanese company and that rocking the boat is a bad idea. She gave them a greeting and token politeness, but she was very clear about Hololive being for the girls.

>>66356621
Yeah

>>66356642
the kiara line has nothing to do with fag enabling at all. I mentioned Kiara when I was calling mori autistic and hard to get along with in general. Kiara has the same issue, in general, that she can be hard to get along with. not that she likes the faggots or was in charge of fag enabling or some shit

>>66356642
>who grasps she works for a Japanese company
That's not it it's that Kiara has an idol mentality and is 100% in agreement with us on whether idols should interact with men.

>>66356589
You keep saying that. Kiara was extremely insecure in Myth at the start. She had been saddled with a manager who played favorites, she barely knew any of the girls except Calli because they were both chained to j-Chad. Gura's numbers were zooming while she was lagging behind. Gura and Ame were both aliens to her because Myth obviously came into Hololive not knowing each other. Being loud and obnoxious is a coping mechanism to exude confidence she never had. If you were seeing rudeness or genuine malice, then it's obviously a cultural barrier you have yet to grasp.

>>66356789
Her Idol training did play a role. Yes she agreed in spirit, but she was realistic that the Homos were an inevitability. So long as it didn't collapse into Nijification she was prepared to make that compromise

>>66356589
You made up a lie that Kiara said she was mean to Gura. Now you're salty because your lie got exposed. That's some pretty pathetic behavior on your part tee bee aytch.

>literally all this text
holy shit, this board really is populated by f*males and fags

>>66356983
>the dedicated futaship dick on dick action
what did you expect

>>66352224
>everyone knows she is a dyke
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F7BmZJzQQPY&ab_channel=TaiyakiClips

>>66323388
Great, 3 posts in and it’s the contract schizo again

>>66354573
man, I hate shipfags.

>>66357732
He can't help it, his autism prevents him from understanding human relations

It's truly amazing how morons still keep peddling that Kronii is a bonafied dyke as some pathetic cope when she's crushed over plenty of male characters (at most, she's probably bi). It's like you fuckers don't even watch streams.... oh wait.

>>66322060
No she still needs to do a naked dogeza.

>>66357844
Who's her favorite fictional male protagonist?

>>66339359
Basedrys strikes again

>>66357913
Me

>>66344295
Excellent rrat anon, i applaud you.

>>66335323
It's crazy how good of a containment zone the dogs are

>>66357913
She's admitted to liking Nero from DMC, which is the most generically obvious go-to choice for any girl who's new to the series without pretenses or interest Dante/Vergil's character history and she's gushed over other male characters before. The whole dyke narrative was just pathetic cope from lonely Kronies who tried to pigeonhole Kronii's image with the other girls like some shitty yuri show.

>>66355613
why would she do that on-stream?

>>66344295
>A bunch of kronii cucks just instantly believing some made up headcanon
You fags are so genuinely retarded.

>>66331839
She clearly prefers being a VA rather than a vtuber. I bet she just applied to Holo on a whim and didn't expect to get accepted.

>>66344295
>>66351900
You're both retards that clearly don't know what are you talking about
>Kronii back during one of her first watch-a-longs mentioned that she applied for hololive because of a friend
Yes, and in that same stream she mentioned that same friend was a big fan of Minecraft(that's friend is also the reason she got obsessed with it despite mentioning not being a big fan of the game) and died before she even got into Holo. It was clearly a very close friend because she mentioned being depressed after they passed away and everyone could notice that.
> We also later found out many months later that friend was getting married
Not the same friend for obvious reasons. Also, that other 'friend' is her sister but she refers to her as Sally because she's very autistic about mentioning her family. Like, everyone thought her dad was basically non-existent in her life because she spend her first like 15 months in Holo without mentioning him a single time, until she dropped out of nowhere that she likes going to fish with him because it's very relaxing. We know Sally is her sister because Kronii isn't the brightest and has sliped up a couple of times mentioning doing stuff with her when they were kids and always being together, even when she has mentioned that her family needs to move out very often and that's why she doesn't have a lot of friends IRL, or also when she tweeted that she became an auntie when Sally gave birth and all the times she has mentioned being an auntie on stream
>Vesper was in her chat during December outfit reveal showing they were talking off stream
There's literally nothing to prove that they were talking off-stream and we all know how Vesper was always a fucking leech that even ignored his genmates at times just to collab with the girls
>the spider gag was probably his idea as well as Kroroulette
What spider gag? That time when Kronii saw a fucking big ugly spider coming down from her ceiling? That was fucking genuine and Vesper was only attributed to it because he commented on one the most viewed clips that he hired the spider to attack Kronii. That's literally it and you can go check it with your own eyes.
As for the Kroroulette thing that was just a silly idea she had, she's always liked self-improvement stuff to the point that she has even cited a self-improvement book she owns.
>they had collabs at least once a month until Vesper and Magni decided they wanted out
Yes, and they only had monthly collabs because Mori was always the one pushing for them and Kronii never says no to anyone in Holo that asks her for a collab because she's not the kind of person to initiate collabs herself.
>you can't mention him in chat because her mods are draconian and nuke anything that could stir up shit, they even stepped out of line and Kronii had to ffix there mistake.
Yes, her mods are fucking assholes but the name of the 2 fags that left have never been a blocked word in her chat, you can go check that out yourself. I know that's the case because i saw greyfags literally namedropping them in her chat when they left
>Kronii has always known and hated hololive culture
Holy fucking retard, she has never been the biggest Hololive fan that i give you, but despite not being someone like Kiara that literally dreamed about doing idol stuff she has never mentioned that she hated it and has grown a bit fond of it in the end and it shows.

She was in a very bad spot when she joined Hololive, she was clearly very depressed and she basically mentioned it during her debut but she has become happier because of all the good stuff that has happened to her during her time in Hololive, she has done stuff that made her go out of her shell and she has met great girls that have helped her to see things in a more positive way

>>66357211
Just a bit

>>66358781
>Yes, and they only had monthly collabs because Mori was always the one pushing for them and Kronii never says no to anyone in Holo that asks her for a collab because she's not the kind of person to initiate collabs herself.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4WCUqrsTcHM&t

>>66358781
>she's not the kind of person to initiate collabs herself
But she is the type to comment about the a male collab's underwear? Gtfo with that nonsense cuckeronii

>>66358844
That's the only case when she had a 1-on-1 with one of the homos and it was because she thought he was a cool guy instead of a fucking leech
>>66358876
>Cuckeronii
I see what kind of retard are you now, i shouldn't have bothered

It's funny how many deluded/revisionary kronies are out there, trying to lie to newfags.
>>66353908
Money you idiot. Her VA career was in shambles and post-Myth holo was(still is really) a golden ticket to a cushy job. She just didn't expect to ge given a titmonster and to have to coombait people she hates since she's a feminist.

>>66339359
TimeRyS interactions during Tsuyo Cup were so good. It's great when she's having fun. Now if Kronii's doomer attitude could be fully cured, that would truly be a miracle.

>>66322060
>stops collabing with males
>suddenly does way better, gets a license, is in a more memey talkitive mood
wowwwwwwwww

>>66358915
>i shouldn't have bothered
Concession accepted

>>66359205
No, her doomer aspect is part of the appeal.

>>66358844
Only 1 on 1 Kronii did with a homo and this was right when Mori filled Kronii's head with her patented 'own the haters' garbage.
You'll notice any homo interaction afterwards was always done because of Mori or Ame.

>>66335072
ok sister

>>66359504
blame mori all you want like kronii is a minor incapable of making her own thoughts. Huge fucking cope

Kaela managed to cheer her up

The only thing here that I know for certain isn't schizoposting is her hating her model/tits. Anyone know why? Did she not have a conversation with people pre-debut?

>>66353907
>trying to make fun of other men while posting AI cuckold porn (and blacked)
yeah that makes you look like the cuck here faggot.

>>66323079
Good thing the chair seasoning guy got fired. She must have been really uncomfortable around him.

>>66327654
She has never said anything though.
IRyS, however, has openly talked about wanting to be cunny.

>>66360390
kek who the fuck was that guy? one of tempiss?

>>66333415
>second gen
Read her IMDb

>>66337061
No, you don't have a chance.

>>66360390
Man everytime I read this I'm happy I'm not this much of a socially incompetent autist

>>66360596
Vesper. It explains why the girls suddenly stopped associating with him.

>>66360672
If >>66360390 this guy had a change I definitely have one

>>66360631
>IMDb
>They
Her whole existence is a fucking joke

>>66360806
A lot of comedy comes from internal pain and struggles.

>>66360706
>It explains why the girls suddenly stopped associating with him.
they found out about that clip or is this just because of similar behavior?
oh no don't tell me the story in that pic happened while he was in hololive

>>66361017
I believe it's similar behavior. He was also suspended the first time due to anger issues, so he's a genuine social autist. It makes sense that Mori and Kronii started distancing after something like that.

>>66352224
the way Kronii kept emphasizing "they're not my type, there's such a thing as preference." kronies know she likes keeping things vague. so her saying that, like it was so obvious what her intentions were was so frustrating to watch. it's like she was banned from saying she was gay. she repeated the bit about them not being her "type" thrice and was scoffing like it was SO obvious.

>>66361230
Kronii is gay4pay (like everyone in Hololive), she's not actually lesbian. You're an idiot if you think otherwise.

Honestly, all korean women should be treated as sexual objects. If kronii fulfills that role then she's not that terrible (for a gook).

>>66359312
it's because she finally has a loving boyfriend at home. she doesn't need male collabs. she gets chad dick every night now

>>66361400
well you're obviously a retard who knows nothing about actual lesbian other than probably watching or reading about them in your lonely hentai loser.

>>66354952
Remove Mori and insert Omega management then I can believe this 100%. Gura held the idol EN dream together but a lot of projects / games were getting blocked for everyone. Fighting her own people caused her to start drinking again thus new management gives her the free pass because it was their fuck up. It's been a celebrity getting sobriety arc for Gura.

>>66361400
>gay for pay
That's Kiara and Nerissa. Kronii and Sana are legit and act(ed) differently

>>66361172
>It makes sense that Mori and Kronii started distancing after something like that.
They collabed with him multiple more times after that. If anything it shows an autistic man with rage issues is more appealing than you.

>>66361705
I honestly think Kronii was super neet depressed and has no fucking clue how her womenly assets work. She also chose the shitiest friends who would have helped her career. Mori would have done the 4chan thing, fans are your enemies own them except she got her shit kicked in repeatedly, failed her side gigs and ate some humble pie, so the advice she now talks to Kronii about actually works. Kiara love her energy is the type of girl who throws the darts and always misses half the time. Gura does it blind and pissed everyone insecure off, not helping her stop reachingnfor that vodka mixer.

>>66361818
I don't mean after the suspension(that was towards a manager, not the girls). Something else happened later that led to them stopping collabs way before he got suspended again.

>>66335595
That friend? Me.

>>66361017
He prob done it to Kronii why would Gura be associating with him if its that fart joke clip.

>>66325877
So IRyS would lose the ONLY thing appealing about her? Wow career suicide right there

>>66361899
Yeah they realized he was going to quit and knew it wasn't worth it dealing with a sinking ship.

>>66354952
>NO SEE GURA IS LE BASED
Holy fuck you are everything wrong with this board. She doesn't stream because she is a millionaire and went into early semi-retirement, she doesn't need to stream she will just coast. That's it.

>>66325877
To be fair to IRyS she had the shittiest model for the longest time even if her take was stupid. Its probably cause she needs to mocap in heels.

>>66333795
>>66334053
NTA but it's obvious she is depressed and anti social. Who else treats a baby a fucking specimen, girl has no strong feminine role model in her life man.

>>66359975
Here's how it went
>Wada: I will die if I cannot draw giant tits

>>66362151
Why would she need a feminine role model if she can be masc as fuck

>>66360390
Should've just sniffed the chair right there

>>66361589
I know actual lesbians don’t have crushes on male piano teachers

>>66362418
getting groomed by older males are one of the many reasons girls turn to lesbianism

>>66362211
Based Wadamama

>>66357211
>clipping a members only stream

>>66362473
Nah those are fake lesbians true lesbians are born from birth till death

>>66323525
You're definitely a cuck

Why is she so butthurt over her model having huge knockers anyway? Nerissa doesn't care, hell she jokes about it like that time she said nobody was reading the text at the top of the screen so she put it at the bottom next to her tits because chat's eyes were already down there anyway.

>>66363244
Because male gaze, le patriarchy, my body my choice, etc.

>>66363291
Oh so she's just stupid and insecure. Well that explains a lot.

>>66363244
Have you looked at the coomer art in her twitter likes. She even owns her own body pillow. If she hated it she's ask people not to put lewds in her main tag like Suisei or Ina.

>>66363533
Why else would she listen to Mori?

>>66344295
exciting rrat, but
>has spent most of her career in a haze
she's definitely a pothead, right? that's gotta play into things.

>>66363731
you guys are totally clueless, kronii is sheltered as fuck
her stoner voice is affected, it's just part of her image

>>66359612
Yes, if Mori wasn't in Hololive, the homo arc for Kronii wouldn't have blown up like it did.

>>66359612
You can point to literally every single SQUAD collab being organized by Mori when they went out of their way to only play rage/clip-bait games like Mario Party and Uno.

You know, the same Mori that planned a SQUAD collab the week that Kronii got her TMJ surgery and didn't kibosh it until the very last moment because she didn't even check in with Kronii about it to know she was in no condition to do one?

>>66365493
>>66365874
Yeah yeah, we get it. Everything is Mori's fault and Kronii did nothing wrong.

>>66366060
Kronii has at multiple times made it clear she's slow to setup collabs of her own and is generally open to collabing to anyone who asked, so it's not a particularly biased observation that if Mori didn't setup SQUAD collabs we wouldn't have had people still making retarded threads like this a year and a half later.

>>66338378
nigger thats every streamer community

>>66366456
You need to stop watching whores if that is your basis for a streamer community. Have some fucking class.

>>66359975
lmao really? it's feminism nonsense, I get warned or banned every time I point out the other girls group shunned Gura for forcing them into the individual responsibility for their own politics instead of being able to hind behind a shield of group acceptance. why does kronii hate her model? because it "objectifies women". why apply to be a holo then? so that a feminist will be one.

welcome to identitiarianism where the only solution is to wipe out the other identity, not negotiable and not a fucking joke

>>66362024
kek. IRyS hates heels but I don't think she ever had to actually wear them. That's a fucking nice thought though.

>>66366696
What the fuck are you on about? I thought Kronii just did this for a joke.

I see people are still regurgitating the "she hates her model" rrat even though she's constantly retweeting and liking lewd art
Braindead sheep, the lot of you.

Why does Kronii hate her model, bros? Look at how uptight and frigid the art she retweets is.

>>66367228
They're married to the cart at this point, the moment they acknowledge she isn't the caricature they made her out to be in their schizo minds, they'll turn into dust.

Can her former schizo Gabrie Cuntface go back now and leave the small corpo streams alone?

Thanks

>>66367347
we don't want him

>>66367365
we don't want him either

>>66366274
>It's Mori's fault people are schizophrenic
Ok. Noted.

>>66367598
Mori is a shit stirrer so yeah

>>66367674
Mori's collab choices has nothing to do with your mental illness.

>>66366274
This.
Mori just can't help but leech off kronii and others since she's a huge number fag who tanked her numbers due to the constant yabs and treating her fans like shit until she only had full time cucks.
And that's not getting into other scummy practices she does like trying to start her point of view during the minecraft sports fest before even the hosts to leech off everyone before she got slapped down hard.

>>66367749
No but her insecure narcissism, abrasive personality, and confrontational attitude are a toxic influence on the community as a whole

>>66367821
Thanks armchair psychologist. Care you share your diploma?

>>66367845
You don't need a psychology degree to identify shitty people being shitty.

>>66367868
Or maybe that's your own conclusion you got from your mental illness.

>>66368002
Then I guess it's your opinion against mine.

>>66331839
Her roommate acc is active and actively pursuing a voice acting career. Once she gets enough steady VA work you'll see the stream schedule fade into the background a la ayame. Sure the streams would be relatively easy money but when you have a passion for something, it's not gonna get fulfilled by replacing it with money.

>>66368028
I'm not attributing various malicious things on Mori for doing certain collabs when historically Mori has done male collabs, even just after debut. Or interpret collabin'g with kohais and members of Hololive as "leeching", especially as a holo with a pre-existing standing of her own.

>>66368202
I don't have a problem with Mori doing male collabs. I have a problem with her divisive "own the haters" attitude.

>>66368240
I don't think those male collabs were done to "own the haters".

>>66368286
Then you're a blind fool.

>>66368292
What am I supposed to see in a vtuber who historically does male collabs doing male collabs?

>>66368540
Nothing. I don't have any beef with Bae. As I already said, I don't care about male collabs.

>>66368579
You still haven't proven that Mori does male collabs to "own the haters".

>>66368634
And you haven't proven that she doesn't. Anon, we could sit here all day and rifle through twitter screencaps and youtube clips and each give our interpretation of every quote, but at the end of the day, to judge someone's character is ultimately just that: a matter of interpretation. Your opinion against mine.
Mori's lead the charge in a series of actions that did irreparable damage to a community that I was a part of, and I personally believe that she does not have a single shred of regret for it.

>>66368826
Burden of proof is on you, retard. You can't just say something and expect people to believe you.

>>66368930
You're asking me to prove an opinion, retard. Read my post, moron. Idiot.

>>66368960
Or maybe try backing up your declarative statements instead of assuming people will just believe you.

>>66369019
I did. But I can't "prove" that Mori is internally a selfish, spiteful, hateful person. Even if I showed you 3000 screencaps, you wouldn't be convinced. So why bother?

>>66369102
Where? If you're also the guy who kept on insisting Mori visited Kronii you didn't even get that right.

>>66369235
I don't know who you're talking about, but Mori has in fact visited Kronii. That is a thing that happened, both in Canada and in Japan.

>>66369280
She had nothing to do with the Tempus underwear fiasco, a thought insinuated earlier in the thread.

>>66369461
Well I don't give a shit about that. I thought it was funny.

>>66368930
>>66369019
Do you expect him to explain and go through several years worth of tweets, off hand comments, surrounding circumstances and the full histories of all the people involved and their relationships to eachother, much of which anyone who actually has been keeping track of this subject would already know to some degree. Just to satisfy your lazy ass with some sort of conclusive silver bullet ”proof”?
Are you actually retarded?

When Kronii can play an indie puzzle game and still get a higher CCV than Mori playing MGS even without raids, it's fair to call Mori out for trying to leech off of her.

>inb4 le sub count cope
Yeah ask how that works for people like Kobo and Ollie

>>66369542
Or I could just believe the holomem and what they say about Mori.

>>66323388
Source: (I made it up)

>CCV is the ONLY metric to determine whether a virtual youtuber is doing well.

>>66369608
A lot of holomems are honest and genuine, but I don't necessarily trust them to be a better judge of character than myself.

>>66359975
>>66366696
She’s a feminazi dyke, ofcourse she hates any depiction of beautiful women.

>>66369702
A rando viewer is a better judge of character than the people she works and interacts with and has met her IRL?

>>66360390
Based and funny

>>66369775
Yeah. Because I'm not the one getting showered with gifts and bribes in exchange for friendship.

>>66369858
I wouldn't trust the judgement who views friendships as transactional.

>>66360390
>>66360596
>>66360695
>>66360723
Fuck you guys that was funny

>>66361929
Irys has shot herself in the foot multiple times, this would have been another. Can’t really milk pedos if only occasionally streams and doesn’t even do much fan service.

>>66369946
Not all of them are. But all I'm saying is, if Mori were to buy me a trip to the spa, maybe I'd consider forgiving her, too.

>>66369989
Or maybe friends would forgive friends if they expressed wanting to make up. And what would the girls would need Mori to ask forgiveness for?

>>66370156
For putting Kronii through weeks, months of hell and splitting her community for the sake of her petty crusade, of course.
And I'm just kidding anon, my standards aren't that high. If I thought that Mori genuinely wanted my forgiveness, I'd probably give it to her. But I don't, so I'll keep being a hater.

>>66370269
What fucking crusade? Or is that another "just your opinion" that you base on your other opinions on?

>>66370357
The same crusade I've been talking about this entire time, anon.

So are you just depressed that someone debunked your "Mori as worm tongue rrat" or are you just that fucking lazy? How the fuck have you typed so many words and not said ANYTHING?

>>66370383
The same crusade you couldn't prove.

>>66347419
>Kronii's been almost actively avoiding them
retard

>>66370389
actual schizoprenia

I will always be confused by why people seem to zero in on Kronii and not Calli.

>>66366696
>why does kronii hate her model? because it "objectifies women". why apply to be a holo then?
Since even Hololive doesn't usually go that far with sexualized coomerbait designs. Kronii didn't want to spend her entire career playing the role of a sexy waifu. Coomers act like Kronii won the lottery but even if she made less money she would have wanted a more reasonable design.

>>66371060
Kronii has a lot of schizos for some reason, like genuine 100% authentic schizophrenic schizo schizos, not what this board would class as schizo

>>66371060
Kronii went an entire year without mentioning homos and when she did she only latched on to one like he was her boyfriend, basically cuck shit.

strangely Vestia went through something similar with Axel, but ID has always been cock sleeves and thus less popular and she was less established than Kronii. Ironically Kronii is now on a collab spree with the IDs.

>>66371060
Ex-kronies who couldn't let go. Doubly worse when some of those are also ex-deadbeats who thought Kronii would be "better" than Mori. People who go ballistic on a hair trigger shouldn't be welcomed or feel validated, whether their gripes are legitimate or not because it's only a matter of time til they turn on their new oshi.
It's unfortunate that these people exist in the first place because we really can't have a dialogue about this without someone screeching in the corner.

>>66371656
Why would we need to have a dialogue about this? I gave my viewpoint and people just called me retarded and schizo.

>>66371526
she only wanted to collab with the one guy. it wasn't a general agenda (like with Ame, maybe). why are you fixated on cuckoldry?

>>66343507
Certified woman fixer moment

>>66361230
you guys are like fujos who insist their faves are gay.

>>66371526
Maybe she couldn't understand the JP homos because she can't speak Japanese in a conversational level. She doesn't seem to care about holo JPs other than a few select moments where she has the opportunity to interact, and she never had opportunity to do that with the homos until EN debuted.

twitter tranny thread? bitter branny bread

Retards on both sides ITT are either getting worked up on outdated info or blatanly spouting revisionist history.

Kronii didn't hate her model, rather she had a complex about it thinking that people will only remember her, in her own words, for her "ribbon" (read: her tits) instead of who she is. Which is fucking retarded because a huge part of the appeal of vtubers is the anime girl design otherwise you're just another fucking Youtuber. Because of this she'd constanly hide her tits to avoid having fostering a coomer audience.

This changed by the time the whole Tempiss shitshow had come and gone, wherein she accepted it wholesale to the point of practically waving her tits around. Whatever reason she had for doing so, she blatantly switched from hiding them and being shy of her tits to literally doing fanservice segments, now nonchalantly talking about her "honka badonkas". You could say that she learned to separate her insecurities about real life from her fanservice-y model and just learned to roll with it in time.