/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

QRD on this whole Golden 20 shit? I'm seeing it everywhere now

>>66210436
Never heard of the Golden 1920s idiot?

>>66210436
the golden era of nijiEN 1-5 wave

>>66210464
Roaring 20s you uncultured swine

#GEN20

>>66210485
More like wave 1-2

>>66210522
Those gen is a failure
The only golden gen is luxiem

>>66210436
Not a Niji expert but from I can see an absolute twitter random pulled the term out of his ass and made an off-hand remark about it, that's all there is to it.
The only reason it blew up and has twittertrannies screeching about it is because Aia apparently read it and started coping with "p-pls don't forget the younger waves exist too" (bitch, you're one of the biggest reason your wave flopped so hard) which brought out a circlejerk about how the term is so hecking mean or whatever (even though it's not really a term anyone uses)

>>66210504
You know nothing you nimwit, look up golden 20s

>>66210522
Obsydia the only wave are still intact
if selen never quit or got terminated

>>66210553
Luxiem was a pump and dump

Golden 6

>>66210522
It's not even all of waves 1-2. Only Pomu, Selen and Rosemi really stood out amongst them and Finana, Petra and the dragon girl from wave 1 (I am honestly blanking out on her name) were all pretty forgettable.

>>66210553
>gen

>>66210464
Oh so its a mutt thing?
Nevermind then

>>66210593
you probably meant "nitwit" but mixed it up with "nimrod". did you know that "nimrod" was a biblical figure known as a mighty hunter? it developed a second meaning through looney toons episodes where bugs bunny used it facetiously to refer to elmer fudd, the hunter who tries and fails to shoot him.
>>66210687
"golden 20s" is actually a euro thing. americans call the same period the "roaring 20s" as previously discussed.

and that's my pedantry quota filled for the day!

>>66210717
kill yourself

>>66210687
>thirdie doesn't know golden 20s, thinks it must be american
Holy retard

Noctyx didn't take off.

>>66210558
Anon is referring to this clip:
https://twitter.com/layze_san/status/1743841147934634468

>>66210322
All of these might lose/ have lost one member this year

>>66210322
Soon to be 15

>>66210558
It wasn't a twitter random, it came from one of their own clippers and got positive engagement. That's what drove Aia to have a menhera break

>>66210830
seethe

>>66211489
>underachieving streamer can't thinks a comment not directed at her was criticism
Yep checks out, fragile ego and persecution complex

>>66211489
He's wrong because it's more like a golden 6

>>66211558
He's a homobeggar, give him some credit for at least pointing in the right direction

>>66210436
A known Mysta clipper tweeted >>66211489, Twitter normalfags mostly agreed, and Aia is now having a meltdown over it.

>>66211646
Some Ver guy also had meltdown

>>66210870
Why would I waste my time with your culture?

>>66210322
And what was the lesson that NijiEN management should have learned from all this?
>Mixed waves don't work in the western world. You are not giving either "side" what they actually want.
But they kept trying anyway to disastrous results. Not to say that NijiEN and their main branch overlords didn't make other huge mistakes as well, they clearly did, but this was a clear one to avoid.

>>66210322
>noctyx
>golden 20
What was the mystafag thinking?

>>66210322
lmao

>>66212136
Exactly, please don't, stay in your shithole

>>66210558
Can someone explain who Aia is and why you also said the below?
>(bitch, you're one of the biggest reason your wave flopped so hard)
What happened?

>>66212334
It was because they hired a bunch of fucking shit streamers for wave 6 you fucking retard. Their numbers where skyrocketing and they had the biggest debuts for a nijiEN wave ever. They got a fuck ton of subs as well. They were so fucking shit though they tanked the entire branch.

>>66211558
NijiEN was just a shitty HoloEN lite until the homos came and made everyone seethe and added more autism. The brief moment when chink sisters hadn't taken over and Wave 4 had to actually hustle where the best moments before disaster struck.

>>66210322
Read this whole thread and all I can think is "Who the fuck is Aia?" Niji IN?

More like "the golden 16" amiright?

>>66218209
If you want to seriously trim the fat you'll end up with a Golden 3. And out of those three one is suspended with a high possibility of graduation/termination and one is graduating.

>>66216337
>NijiEN was just a shitty HoloEN lite
It was better than holoEN. They streamed more. They had genuine friendship. Much more spontaneous and fun interactions. Better variety than spamming the same game 20 times in a row. It was genuinely better.

That's why it's a shame they shat it all down the drain when the males came in with their disgusting twitch humor and sex talk

>>66218323
>That's why it's a shame they shat it all down the drain when the males came in with their disgusting twitch humor and sex talk
Don't deflect the blame from yourself, Enna.

Don't know where else to post this so i'll post it here.
>>66215779
>He's getting autistic over capitalizations
I'll capITalizE aNy LettEr i WAnt.

>>66211489
Well, that explains everything then. I've heard of the Lazusydia, but of course someone that only came in during Luxiem would think Ethyria was good.

>>66218323
The writing was on the wall when Ethyria came in sadly. That was a wave that really felt like management looked at the PL numbers first and nothing else.

>>66218427
Based grudge poster

>>66210522
After the Lazudia. The next waves was just a disaster after disaster and non-stop drama.

>>66216309
To keep it short, she screwed herself over on day 1 with her debut stream by stating some nonsensical points about herself with some SJW notations on it. She realized her mistake shortly after but it was already too late.

>>66210322
Nothimg gold about it, most impact they had was Luxiem and even then wasn't a good impact.

>>66210322
Luxiem killed Nijisanji EN.

>>66219796
Silver at best really

>>66218427
Why do you keep on derailing niji threads with hololive discussion?

>>66220923
It was just this one time. Don't worry about it.

>>66211549
But it was, golden 20 implies that starting with Aia's wave everything turned to shit.

nijifags surprised people could be fans of talents instead of the brand

>>66210322
Everything after Obsydia is trash

>>66221028
>Everyone I ever interacted with loved all of nijien
Memoryholing Zaion I see

Golden 20? More like Elite Four lemaonade

>>66221028
It's fucking mindblowing how an off-hand comment by some random user caused this much spergery. They all act like there's some massive cult constantly screaming "golden 20"

>>66221374
"all it takes is one comment to make a chuuba's mental go boom"

>>66221399
a chuuba's mental what?

>>66221399

>>66221028
>>66221374
They gaslit themselves that the talents are happy and thankful when being hospitalized, happy and thankful when having their project sabotaged by management, happy and thankful when haemorraging views and money, happy and thankful when refusing to renew their contract in order to leave the company forever, in search of less black pastures.
No, the corpo can do no wrong, all fans watch all streamers equally as they ought to, no wave or liver was poorly received, everything bad that ever happened was the fault of 'weirdos' and 'fake fans', because only weirdo fake fans could possibly have preferences of any kind, and wish for the best for their oshi.
>>66221152
It's so typical, Nijisanji EN doesn't have any fans left outside Twitter. No one watches or knows Aia, Vezalius, Kunai...
Twitter had always been more virtual - that is, more fake - than virtual youtubing itself.

>>66221028
Based of him to love Trouble in Terrorist Town but what does that have to do with Niji?

>>66221028
Can you call anyone that uses "golden 20" fan of talents? It feels to me like they more nostalgic to times when NijiEN brand was strongest.

>>66222663
Fan of any of those 20 talents, yes I can.

>>66210436
It's one of the big nijifan copes. Basically saying first 5 waves were better that's why they deserve more numbers than everyone else. And tries to completely the accelerate accusations.

Only reason this shit blew up is because someone from NijiEN reacted to it. Stupid decision.

I'm pretty sure in HoloEN something similar happened but at least the talents did not give any credence to it by not reacting to it at all. Now they are just having fun while NijiEN is just trouble within trouble.

I don't get why a lot of NijiEN Vtubers keepn on reacting to this kind of shit.

>>66223182
They're just doing their job as entertainers, and they're doing it wonderfully

>>66223182
>I don't get why a lot of NijiEN Vtubers keepn on reacting to this kind of shit.
Its probably because there's not much else going on in the branch right now that gives Nijifans something to be excited about right now. Around the time that Pomu announced that she would be graduating, HoloEN showcased the New Years outfits for Advent, and they also have a Mario Kart tournament going on as well.
Even when NijiEN had something good going on, like Selen's Last Cup of Coffee cover or Rosemi's new outfit, management fucks it up by having something bad go on in the background like Selen's stealth suspension.

>>66223182
We have Mythfags only on this board so you not completely wrong

>noctyx
>golden
Nobody gives 2 fucks and yugo is forgotten
Maria and scarle are good

>>66223464
Nothing going on does not equate to being stupid.
2022 was the worst year for HoloEN. A lot of the HoloEN girls admitted it JUST LATELY after saying that 2023 was great for them.
Did any of them go twitshit to do these NijiEN reactions that start this landslid of nonstop drama? No.
Well one did but it's expected from her anyway and it immediately stopped.

>>66223762
It's the difference in professionalism between the two companies.

>>66223632
damn, that sentence gave me cancer

>>66211489
>>66223825
>>66223762
Nijisanji reaching level of getting one guy'd that shouldn't be possible

>>66221543
mental state but i think it's some ESL thing picked up from online gaming so they just say "mental" in the same way koreans say "manner." and to everyone else, no, i'm not even bothering to look up the details of the etymology or which community this came from

>>66221028
why is she including Tokoyami Towa Team in the list?

>>66221543
>>66224217
It's from Korean esports, I think it worked its way over here through Overwatch. "Mental" is shorthand for your mentality / state of mind, if it is "boomed" then an unexpected setback has left you shaken

>>66210436
Nijicoping. Trying to make people think that the first 20 of them were remotely good.

>>66223825
But but but... muh talent freedom.

all of this because of one (1) tweet

>>66210522
>>66210630
They speak the truth. Without Pomu and Selen, only Rosemi stands out.
I wonder if they will ever absorb the EN branch into the main one. If that happens, there will be graduations in droves, since most of them doesn't speak JP.

>>66210504
>rawr XD

lol the guy was not even in the wrong after the 20 the other nijis feel like filler

Fresh from the other thread, apparently we did it.

Yeah, Iluna didn't do as well as expected

>>66229957
The famous hacker known as 4chan strikes again

>>66229957
Not that anyone wanted or needed this information, but it's not even been 48 hours since the first post containing "Golden 20" was posted here.
And so, these levels of oneguyism, paranoid delusional disorder, rent free living and general nijiniggerism managed to transform a single Mysta clipper's tweet from Jan 5 2024 into entire months of shitposting on /vt/.

On an unrelated note, my oshi managed to collab with Pomu right before the latter announced her graduation, and Twitch streamers I don't even want to watch happen to be laughing at Nijisanji too, was this hacker known as 4chan responsible for that too?

>>66229957
>started out as a /vt/ rrat
He gives /here/ way too much credit. Maybe someone running cover fornthat clipper who actually started it

>>66211015
>Glasses off
>become breeding semen demon.

>>66221360
Rosemi stop moving I'm trying to hump you in Fall Guys.

>>66210322
You made that up.

>>66223944
Hololive has staff that can tardwrangle them and talk sense into them. Nijisanji is barebones. Both corpos definitely cause menhera in their talents, but Cover does enough to show they’re trying to make up for it that their retard moments probably cause less stress than Anycolor’s.
So combine corporate mismanagement and not enough staff, plus ACCELERATE, and the chances someone gets one guy’d into this kind of mistake grows exponentially.

>>66210322
I said this in the other thread and I’ll say it here: unless NijiEN livers and fans can name all NijiJP members they have no right to bitch about this.
Having forgettable talents is part of the brand at this point and is a byproduct of acceleration.

>>66246227
Half of them have never watched a Nijisanji JP stream in their life. They aren't naming shit.

>>66218427
You're a retard

>>66210322
Stupid and generalist.
Honestly, the only talents on a Lazusydia level in the rest of the company are Nina, Vox, Fulgur, Ren, and Maria. The rest range from "tolerable but not distinct" to "toxic and actively irritating"

>>66218165
She's the chuuba who Shiori is ripping off of.

>males
>golden
lole

>>66229957
>vt narrative
>didn't exist till he said it

That tweet wasn't even in the wrong, I feel like even if you are a niji tourist these 20 members all left some type of impression it either being good or bad, the rest just exists and everytime you blink more show up without even doing anything worth to remember

Fixed.
You're welcome.

>>66259253
Nina was dogshit and the worst offense in gen3 by far.
At least you could ignore enna and Millie if you wanted but Nina forced herself into literally everything

>>66262269
I thought Nina was /vt/'s darling chuuba?

>>66262373
Only if you're into hag

>>66262373
Fuck if I know wha happened after I stopped coming here.

But at least on debut everyone hated Nina. And they doubled down on the hate after she forced herself in on all the boys streams constantly too.

She was the reason I hated gen 3, all the shit with Millie and enna didn’t happen until she quit

The so-called "golden 20" includes shitty weirdos like Yugo, Shu, Uki, Reimu. It includes nasty fucks like Millie, Enna, and failures like Finana and Petra.

>>66262373
people /here/ who were actual niji fans did not like nina very much until the start of 2023 when she stopped orbiting Luxiem and started focusing on her own content and playing kino games. people who were tourists also didn't give a shit about Nina until after she announced her graduation, then they supported her as a way to shit on niji
She was always a good entertainer, but she had a rough post-debut patch and then essentially sabotaged her own career by choosing to support Luxiem. She was a huge positive force in their lives and gave them a ridiculous amount of support after their meteoric rise post-debut, but the main thing she got in return was a legion of Luxiem antis that eventually led her to graduation. She experienced huge channel growth due to the Luxiem collabs and also spamming shorts, but after she stopped interacting with Luxiem as much and started focusing on her own channel in 2023, her viewerbase was fragmented.
and the saddest part is that she really did seem like she was about to find her footing last year, and step into her own as an entertainer. she fixed her relationship with Ethyria, had some great moments with Pomu, and had kino taste in games. if it had been this way from the beginning, things could have been different, but Nina got a fuckton of hate starting out

>>66245113
Phase Connect, a corpo that exclusively employs menheras, doesn't have as many mental breakdowns as NijiEN

>>66210322
Should have gone w/ something like the "original 20". Same point, slightly different connotation. Also, would paint the one who went full schizo in a worse light

>>66266429
/nijiEN/ has been using "Season 1" for a year and even they agree that "golden 20" is retarded. when you're too toxic for 4chan you know you've fucked up

>>66263478
Nina PL on twitch about Politics and wokeness thats why alot who hate her follow her on nijisanji

>>66267071
The PL stuff largely stayed /here/, the luxiem antis did not

>>66218323
I know what you feel, anon. We will never see Diamond City again. In fact faggots will tell us it never existed. But it did, damn it. I was there, and now it's long, long gone. Like tears in the rain.

>>66210485
The people have spoken.

>>66268485
>Gen
That's a holofag from /here/ trying to stir shit up again in their fandom
Based but come on guys, they are already down, you don't have to kick them any further

>>66216309
She just wasn’t entertaining and I personally don’t like her voice, she kept pushing this “sexy lesbian dom” type that no one liked and wasn’t natural. By the time she calmed down and found her own niche (tabletop, writing) most people moved on from ILuna. She’s improved a lot but there wasn’t much going for her at all during debut. Maria was cute, Scarle has her audience, Ren could sing etc

>>66268680
You do know that post was before golden 20 thing even exist on twitter right?

>>66268680
>>Gen
>That's a holofag from /here/ trying to stir shit up again in their fandom
No, it's not, you retard. 4chan didn't coin terms made up by COVER themselves.

>>66269979
Now that I look at the picture carefully, you are right, and I noticed that it got quite the sizable amount of likes, it means this sentiment isn't rare in their fanbase...

>>66270092
I know that, I was just insinuating that because he used the term 'gen' instead of the retarded term 'liver' I thought that it's just one of you fags trying to kick them while they're down

>>66270291
No, it's more likely just normies who have always used terms from both companies interchangeably. Casual fans call the holo talents "livers" all the time, and the proper term they should have used is "wave."

>>66266298
"""Menheras"""

Most of them are just faking it to appeal to retards.

>>66210623
thank you Milliemage, that stream is a gift that keeps on giving

>>66210436
Company and Fanbase got one guy'd and it's hilarious

>>66210830
Holy shit I can actually see how red his face is from embarrassment in this post lmfao, this was some good seethe

>>66259253
Agree with this.

>>66210322
What's about the others?

Why is Rosemi such a sexy brat?

Golden 6 if you have taste.
Golden 10 if you're a unicorn.
Golden 15 if you're a numberfag.
But golden 20?

>>66259253
The platinum six.

>>66249093
That’s the point. Aia started this with the “please remember I’m Nijisanji too guys” speech but I doubt she knows or even cares about all of her JP senpai. It’s hypocritical.

>>66273609
Tsunderia produced the bets brats in the sector.

>>66273609
Tsunderia produced the best brats in the sector.

>>66222062
I haven't watched too much of nijisanji but they seem to have even more forced positivity than other corporate vtubers. Plus everything has to be an ironic joke, they are psychos who can't take anything seriously.
I was watching Pomu's graduation announcement and she was giggling throughout it constantly like "look at this silly thing I'm doing lololol" like she's not even taking herself seriously, as if it's impossible for her to be in front of the mic without putting on a fake smile. They believe that everything is always an ironic joke with no bearing on reality

>>66229416
nijsanji(vtubers(women)) getting oneguyed, what else is new

>>66276452
it's more like she was actually happy to be leaving niji
if you watch her 2023 streams you can hear how depressed she sounds

>>66277940
good for her, I just hope she doesn't join Hololive though

>>66210322
Why does coctyx all look so ugly?

Anyone else want to start spamming "golden 20" everywhere to fan the flames?

>>66283941

>>66277940
Any examples?

>>66276452
Some people laugh to deal with awkward and sad situations. Literally look at Selen.

BIJOU STEALS THE LEAD

>>66285328
>This company's members can only ever laugh and treat serious situations ironically
>nuh uh, just look at this other vtuber from the same company
Ok? That's proving exactly what I was saying

>>66288954
Fucking dumbass.

>>66289071
Fucking retard doesn't understand that I was talking about the company, not just Pomu.

>>66218165
I think she was the openly turbotard sjw one out the gate with a beret, I think.
Who cares? They're all the same really.

>>66221028
I don't believe her. ALL of them, really? Or you watch popular clips and say you're a fan of these waves?

>>66283941
NYPA

>nijiniggers exposed as schizo eurofags.

>>66210322
Please respect my senpais (except Selen) and my kouhais (except Zaion), don't post mean stuffs like this!

>>66214598
Mixed gens bad but he didn't want to say it loud.

>>66210322
??

>>66293383
Yo I didn't even realize that the ones after them were the mixed ones.

>>66210322
pffft golden 20 my ass. the fujoshit bugs showed their true colors and left luxiem and now there are only 3 nijiens of any actual worth

>>66283941
we don't need to, they already do it themselves

>>66210322

>>66211489
Why is Aia offended by this? Doesn’t even make sense since they are not dunking on the other members. She literally said it’s ok to have favorites

>>66259253
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yin_and_yang

>>66210322
All out war happened...

>>66210322
fixed, your welcome

>>66312791
The silver 6...

>I LOVE EVERYONE
...Come on, you know that's not true. It's perfectly normal having a few of favorites and not caring that much about the rest. Missing the good old times doesn't mean that you are insulting the newer talents.

>>66210322
There are like 4 or 5 actually good talents between these

>>66312791
lmao and they're losing two in one swoop

>>66312791
I don't like this because it implies Finana isn't utter garbage

>>66211558
>>66211593
>he
Jinwoo is (clearly) a woman

>>66312791
nah bro, you almost did it

>>66221374
Twitterfags always need something to cry about.

>>66321135
post tits then

>>66321342
Remove Finana the dumb whore and Elira the clique head, now you only have two

>>66210322
only ones worth a shit are the top 2. everything went downhill once middle debuted

>>66321637
You couldn't pay me enough to go digging for her ugly femcel tits

>>66266429
It's the Pepsi/Sonoc thing where the perpetual second place starts acting like they are hot shit.

>>66211015
wtf aia is not a granny?

>>66229957
The funniest thing about this is the implication that /vt/ is willing to put Luxiem in any positive light.

>>66285328
>Some people laugh to (...)
>Selen

>>66211489
I find it kind of weird to cut a line but include Noctyx. They're as bad as all the shitters that came after. Luxiem is bad but at least they had numberfag factor at one point.

>>66210485
Wait. NijiEN has 5 fucking gens? I thought they were on like gen 3.
>Lazulight
>Obsydia
>whogivesashit

>>66259253
>petra griffin
she's barely EN

>>66229957
It's over... /vt/ also learn how to used twitter...

>>66262373
/vt/ didn't like her at debut, because she was way too into the boys. However, she eventually stopped and played the most interesting games so /vt/ respected her.

>>66326063
She had a brief stint pre Luxiem when she played "based /v/ games" and I guess some people liked that, I would remember her fondly if the story ended here, but that was all replaced by incessant leeching the moment the men showed up and 99% of this board's opinion of her comes from this period. Overall people mostly started to pretend to love Nina after she left.

>>66210322
>Pomu
>Rosemi
>Selen
>Vivi
So golden 3

>>66326313
Nina only got attached to Luxiem in the first place because her wave mates Millie, Enna and Reimu didn’t want to be friends with her. There should be a clip where she talked about this with Alban. I feel bad for her.