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>>Hololive EN singer
>>Only sings songs in Japanese

Who is this for? I mean I kind of like her voice, but I don't get it.

>> No.6618886

>>6618863
She's singing for me

>> No.6618938

>>6618863
Have you heard of this thing called permissions?

>> No.6618954

Considering hololive's setlist I don't think she CAN sing anything else and keep it archived

>> No.6618956

>>6618863
for me

>> No.6618967

>>6618863
I mean does hololive has any English music right other than country road? This is an archived stream so she can’t sing any English songs.

>> No.6619037
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6619037

>>6618863
>watching Vtuber (literally anime girl)
>bothered by anime/Jp song
what?!
show me the list of at least5 songs you want her to sing

>> No.6619114

>>6618967
ty, wise anon!

>> No.6619408

>>6618863
Have you heard of this thing called song rights? If they want to make money from it and not have youtube shut them down they need to negotiate for the rights to perform those songs. For Cover it is easier and cheaper to negotiate for the rights to use a japanese song catalogue than it is to make a deal to use the catalogue of say Universal Music Group or Warner Music Group. Especially if it's only the EN girls that could make good use of the English songs.

>> No.6619468

>>6619037
How is this relevant? Even her original songs are in Japanese. What's the point of marketing her as Hololive EN if she only appeals to Weebs?

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>>6618863
great, another Hololive JP reject
she will never be japanese

>> No.6619593

She's singing for nips and weebs. Generally weebs want japanese anime music.

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>>6619468
did you listen full versions of EP songs?

by the way i am still waiting for list of at least 5 EN songs you wanted her to sing during ARCHIVED karaoke

PS what about Gura's Reflect? how bad is this song?

>> No.6619639

>>6619408
Japan songs are much easier to use because they has something called "JASRAC"

This group was founded by many japan music labels and company to let JASRAC sold the rights to anyone who want to use the songs from the company that was part of it and share the profit to the rights owner of said songs.

Meanwhile in the West, there are fuck ton of music company and each of them has their own labels and copyrights company under them.

It's too many hoop that you need to cross comparing to "JASRAC" so it's not surprised why you will see most of big name Vtuber only use songs under "JASRAC" ownership

www jasrac.or.jp/ejhp/users/index.html

>> No.6619640

>>6618863
Do you not understand copyright?

>> No.6619662

>>6619593
the only exception when I want to listen to a weeb music but in English is if the songs are just like DMC tier. Edgy and anime tier lyrics but god tier music production.

>> No.6619702

>>6618863
>Who is this for?
For me.
She is the only EN vtuber I am subbed to.

>> No.6619718

if she sings songs in enlish she has to delete the vod you fucking retard, holy shit how fucking retarded are you niggas

>> No.6619746

>Sings in japanese
>Speaks in english

Sounds perfect to me. The only bad thing is her streaming times.

>> No.6619759

>>6619718
OP is fishing for (You)'s anon. They pretend to not know how copyright works.

>> No.6619787

>>6619636
Red Heart
Infinity
Sparks
Live Again
The Mori song where she bashes Vtweeters

>> No.6619796

JP reject squad: Kiara, Anya, Iofi, and now Irys

>> No.6619852

>>6619662
yeah, DMC is great example of exceptions to the rules. even good old DMC3 had EN OST.
damn.. what a banger it was

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xti_6Bzpa8A

>> No.6619876

>>6619547
>>6619796
Isn’t irys half Japanese like coco?

>> No.6619892

How about we just watch dubbed anime too? Better, why even call it anime? Let's just call it 'cartoons' because that's a good, honest to god american word.

>> No.6619920

>>6619876
Half nip, half american from hawaii.

>> No.6619922

>>6619787
I think she has to ask them for the permission to sing those songs. I remember azki’s music concert stream getting banned for hosting suisei’s song at one point. It was so hilarious.

>> No.6619941

>>6618938
Gura doesn't need them.

>> No.6619952

>>6619920
Which mean she is Japanese. She can probably be hololive jp gen 6 if she wanted too.

>> No.6619990

>>6619941
how many archived karaoke streams with english songs does she have?

>> No.6620004

>>6619941
Those are unarchived, mister dumbass.

>> No.6620026

>>6618863
Lyrics don’t matter turbopleb EOP

>> No.6620127

>>6619952
I mean we had Coco so it does make sense for her to get in Gen6 if only we didn't had an ENVsinger. Contractually, I imagine it is best to have a Vsinger because imagine pouring your funds into only 1 vtuber in 1 gen. That won't look nice. It's the same way that people are waiting for a Gen2 concert now because Gen 1 just had one.

>> No.6620161

>>6619787
1.she will post 4 cover next month
2. any none Cover song?
3. noway she will sing Spark
4. Off their heads too tough even for Mori
5.(!) My girl wanted to show off her skill and range through appropriate song

>> No.6620176

>>6619468
>What's the point of marketing her as Hololive EN if she only appeals to Weebs?
Hololive is for weebs in general. This is like complaining why Crunchyroll markets to weebs if they specialize in localizing anime. Also how the fuck are you fucking faggots finding your way to 4chan

>> No.6620204

EN1 will never do a 3D concert together so IRyS is there to help fill that void..

>> No.6620213

>>6619408
Red Heart?
Any of the other English holosongs?
Cope?

>> No.6620236

>>6619759
And he get's mocked for not understanding permissions and a little something called DMCA strikes. He's the textbook definition of a low information EOP.

>> No.6620245

>>6619941
Imagine being this smooth brained

>> No.6620260

>>6619892
yeah! what is wrong with thous people ?they even call comic manga nowadays.

>> No.6620268

>>6618863
>Hololive EN singer
>Hololive
>a Japanese Vtuber company
>expecting the talents to shill western copyrighted songs
These are the idiots attracted by EN. Look at them. She's honorary JP who can speak English fluently.

>> No.6620279

>>6619941
Gura is three copyright strikes from trigger happy western labels, from having her channel deleted from youtube forever.

>> No.6620280

>>6620268
Thing is. When will Hololive get some English speaking song writers?

>> No.6620284

>>6619941
like oshi like fans

>> No.6620288

>>6619468
The entire company is basically made to appeal to, as you put it, weebs. Hell, that holds true for most of the medium as a whole.

>> No.6620301

>>6620288
They're gonna have to do something special to appeal beyond the weeb market

>> No.6620320

>>6620161
The first cover is going up in a few days anon. The one after that is next week.

>> No.6620321

>>6620301
They can't. Korea will eventually steal the idol vtubing concept and make every tribalist on this board, whether Niji or Holo or Indie, repent.

>> No.6620325

EOP seethe

>> No.6620329

>>6620280
Judging by how there were legal problems happening in the background with Red Heart. I'd say they are afraid of western writers. Best bet is for Mori to write songs for EN.

>> No.6620361

>>6620329
It would probably have been a better move had Vsingers recruited a songwriter. Mori's songwriting ability is limited to rap.

>> No.6620380

>>6620301
There is risk with that, it could bring in a bunch of faggots who would call people watching gura a pedo.

>> No.6620411

>>6620176
No fuck you, you faggots are the problem. How the fuck can you wrap your heads around the simple concept of E FUCKING N. HOLOLIVE E N G L I S H. I like jap songs but come the fuck on, you're a blithering retard if you don't think it's a pants on head retarded idea to try and market a Singer as an english speaking one and have them sing jap. Just look at actual japanese reactions to this, they're confused as hell as well.
>>6620268
>Hololive En Singer
>EN the english speaking branch of the company marketed to western markets
I'm having an aneurysm I can't believe this, you're all a bunch of fucking idiots. This is twitter levels of delusion and clown world fuckery, at least it's just over anime girls this time.

>> No.6620422

>>6620329
KIra - Sparks

>> No.6620446

>>6620268
>English vsinger
>Doesn't vsinger English

>> No.6620461

>>6620411
Reflect

>> No.6620482
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>>6620411

>> No.6620521

>>6620411
Yeah I kinda agree, one of her original song could had been an English song instead of all three being in Japanese. Just sent her a superchat or a marshmallow next time she do q&a and ask if she is planning to release any original English song or not.

>> No.6620530

>>6618863
english songs are heavily DMCA

>> No.6620548

>>6620411
Even Gura doesn't even have a full English song. The most EN of all EN girls except Ame

>> No.6620570

Hololive EN was a mistake, IRyS should've been a JP holo so I wouldn't have to deal with you fags making these retarded ass fucking posts go kill yourselves

>> No.6620582

>>6620548
Kiara has one but only after releasing a few that were in Japanese.

>> No.6620605

>>6620570
99% of her audience don't care. It's not even 1%. Aqua gets more whiners than Irys. It's not an issue.

>> No.6620626

>>6620582
Sparks sounds bad and I rather have a good JP song than a shitty EN song. See Suisei's songs

>> No.6620635

>>6619547
she's japanese tho

>> No.6620641

>>6620411
Irys is not going to do an unarchived singing stream for her first Karaoke ever. Cover is not going to be able to secure the permissions that allow her to archive the stream if she sings English songs. Should they try to secure such permissions before launching Vsingers? In a perfect world, yes. Is it feasible to secure such permissions? No, Irys is unlikely to make back the licenses a Disney would charge. Blame our fucked copyright system instead.

>> No.6620642

>>6620582
So the point is these girls will release whatever and it doesn't matter. Her JP originals are doing way better than Spark btw.

>> No.6620647

>>6620411
SHUT THE FUCK UPPPP
IMAGINE THINKING YOUR OPINION ACTUALLY FUCKING MATTERS. SHE WANTED TO SING THESE SONGS BECAUSE SHE LIKES THEM AND IN THE WORDS OF COCO, IF YOU DON'T LIKE IT GET THE FUCK OUUUTTT.

Also there's only two or three actual non rap/hip-hop songs that are fair use for Cover. Unless you want to hear her sing Old McDonald for an hour just FUCKING WAIT FOR AN UNARCHIVED STREAM JESUS CHRIST

>> No.6620677

>>6620461
Gura isn't a English vsinger bud hate to break it to you.

>> No.6620716

>>6620521
Lots of people have ali I don't think any have been acknowledged but I haven't watched everything she's put out so who knows.

>> No.6620739

>>6620548
Right Gura the English vsinger who is marketed that way and has all her songs paid for by cover... Oh wait.

>> No.6620750

>>6620677
>holoEN
sure
cope more

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>SHUT THE FUCK UPPPP
IMAGINE THINKING YOUR OPINION ACTUALLY FUCKING MATTERS. SHE WANTED TO SING THESE SONGS BECAUSE SHE LIKES THEM AND IN THE WORDS OF COCO, IF YOU DON'T LIKE IT GET THE FUCK OUUUTTT.

>Also there's only two or three actual non rap/hip-hop songs that are fair use for Cover. Unless you want to hear her sing Old McDonald for an hour just FUCKING WAIT FOR AN UNARCHIVED STREAM JESUS CHRIST

>> No.6620786

>>6620739
ENvtuber. Doesn't release an English song? What??? ENVsinger. Also doesn't release an English song. Whattt????? Lol. Nobody cares outside of this site. The vtubers don't care.

>> No.6620793

>>6620750
Right because Hololive EN implys the same thing as English Vsinger
Who's coping?

>> No.6620799

>>6620739
You do realize you answer your own question right? Her song is paid for by cover meaning they made those song and make her sing it. I am not sure irys can write her own song lyrics which mean she has to sing whatever cover decide so you should ask cover.

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>>6620641
>No ENGLISH SoNGs
Anon, plenty of songs in English for Karaoke stream

>> No.6620826

>>6618863
Weebs.

>> No.6620833

>>6620786
Actually pretty much every website is saying this in droves. Twitter reddit discord and fuck dude even 5chan is saying it.

>> No.6620842

>>6620411
>I'm having an aneurysm
I hope it bursts

>> No.6620843

newfag here. did /vt/ also have the same reaction when Reflect had JP lyrics?

>> No.6620844

>>6620768
>No arguments
Ok retardchama

>> No.6620846

>>6620768
>wojak posting
I remember this chumcuck who was doing this during Rhomgura arc. Is that you?

>> No.6620850
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6620850

why do non-weebs watch hololive i don't get it
shouldn't you watch your half-naked sluts on twitch complaining about their woman's rights?

>> No.6620861

where do you think you are?
what the fuck did you expect the weeb anime girl to sing? nelly furtado? katy perry? lady gaga?

>> No.6620864

>>6620799
That doesn't make anyone's complaints about it invalid.

>> No.6620873

>>6620843
Yes. ENfags are a special breed of retard.

>> No.6620879

>>6620864
Yeah I know but then the blame would be on cover and not really irys, just wanted to point this out.

>> No.6620893

>>6620861
Broadway. Disney. Oh wait, D-M-C-A.

>> No.6620896

>>6620846
>Chumbud boogyman posting
Nigga he just does this on every post more than 3 sentences long.

>> No.6620913

>>6620893
>disney
if I hear one more bitch singing let it go i swear I'll go shoot up a hair saloon or two

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6620916

>>6620321
>too late anon, it's here

>> No.6620931

>>6620739
That makes less sense though.
Gura paid for the song out of her pocket and could have done it in English and I'm pretty sure she had to get someone to translate her lyrics. Also she's from the south or Midwest and doesn't have even conversational Japanese so she's being an Omegaweeb by making her song mostly JP.

>> No.6620942

>>6620739
>>6620739
>songs paid for by cover
proof?
Gura is holoEN who speaks 0 JP, by this logic this is even worst situation since she by HER own will decided to make her 1st song mostly in JP, despite having established established EN fanbessed.

cope

>> No.6620947

>>6620833
Everyone in Twitter were either praising the songs because the blend of English and Jap was good or them wishing she can hear her sing an English song but no one had high hopes it would happen in an archived stream. It's just retarded. Btw. It's currently 45 in the Itunes US chart. It was 15 yesterday.

>> No.6620963

>>6620913
hey fuck you, I love that song no matter how overplayed it is.

>> No.6620996

>>6620913
Imagine one day, a Vtuber sings a Cats unarchived Karaoke.

>> No.6620999

>>6620942
Please read your sentence before you post. I almost went full retard when I read that horrible mess of a sentence.

>> No.6621006

>Ollie goes on a five minute rant bitching out the faggots in her fanbase who want to force her to speak Indonesian, calling them idiots and telling them to fuck off
>"LMAO based zombie get fucked SEAniggers just learn English faggots!"
>IRyS sings in Japanese because she works for a Japanese company that has an easier time securing rights for Japanese songs, while still speaking almost exclusively English
>"WAAAAAAAAHHHHHHH WHY DOESN'T SHE SING EXCLUSIVELY IN ENGLISH SHE'S HOLO EN SHE NEEDS TO DO ONLY EXACTLY WHAT I WANT FUUUUUUUCCKKKK! WHAT DO YOU MEAN RIGHTS KIARA HAS AN ORIGINAL SONG IN ENGLISH WAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHH"
When you have SEAnigger level behavior, you should probably sit down, shut the fuck up, and reflect on yourself.

>> No.6621065

>>6621006
>while still speaking almost exclusively English
She's going out of her way to speak mostly English due to being EN, even. Her past life had a significantly higher Japanese ratio than IRyS does now.

>> No.6621089

>>6620793
in both situations EN implies focus on EN fan base by YOUR own logic. no matter what type of content we are talking about.

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>>Ollie goes on a five minute rant bitching out the faggots in her fanbase who want to force her to speak Indonesian, calling them idiots and telling them to fuck off
>>"LMAO based zombie get fucked SEAniggers just learn English faggots!"
>>IRyS sings in Japanese because she works for a Japanese company that has an easier time securing rights for Japanese songs, while still speaking almost exclusively English
>>"WAAAAAAAAHHHHHHH WHY DOESN'T SHE SING EXCLUSIVELY IN ENGLISH SHE'S HOLO EN SHE NEEDS TO DO ONLY EXACTLY WHAT I WANT FUUUUUUUCCKKKK! WHAT DO YOU MEAN RIGHTS KIARA HAS AN ORIGINAL SONG IN ENGLISH WAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHH"
>When you have SEAnigger level behavior, you should probably sit down, shut the fuck up, and reflect on yourself.

>> No.6621191

>>6621065
She barely translates her jap too. I don't know if that was intentional. She keeps it really quick as well as if she's on a timer when talking in nip

>> No.6621221

>>6620411
Shut the fuck up you fucking nigger. I bet you watch dubbed anime faggot.

>> No.6621226

>>6620931
Because she wanted to do it retard. IRyS didn't make any of her songs.

>> No.6621234

>>6620861
This made me laugh. Nelly Furtado. It's been awhile since I heard that name. Lol

>> No.6621250

>>6620942
I almost had a stroke reading this.
Also are you actually retarded it's a well known fact Cover pays for all of IRyS's music that's literally the point of vsinger.

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>>6621191
>Kiara case
ppl still mad at her for translating to JP niki

>> No.6621287

>>6621006
Imagine not knowing the difference in these two situations.....

>> No.6621300

>>6621270
I don't know what you mean. Explain.

>> No.6621314

>>6621250
i can imagine Gura's 1st song could be sponsored too.

>> No.6621329

>>6621191
My personal rrat is that Kiara told her not to do too much talking in Japanese since she copped shit over it in her first few streams

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>Shut the fuck up you fucking nigger. I bet you watch dubbed anime faggot.

>> No.6621360

>>6618863
anon, you can't have it all! this ain't your isekai kind of world, go isekai in another world!

>> No.6621361

>>6621287
So what your saying is that it's okay for Irys to speak in nip all the time but only sing English songs? Since streaming means talking.

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>Shut the fuck up you fucking nigger. I bet you watch dubbed anime faggot.

>> No.6621410

>>6621394
HoloENfags were dubfags all along.

>> No.6621439

>>6621361
The way I see it is Irys is just the channel for weeby songs who are incidentally mostly in nip. But she will speak in English since she is part of EN. Her songs are a mix of English and Nip. It has full sentences in English. What I can say is that they don't sound awkward unlike most songs that try to encoporate English words or phrases

>> No.6621458

>>6619796
>Kiara got the free 1M ticket thanks to EN instead of being stuck at 300-500k like the other JP girls
>IRyS gets the free EN brand AND the free music pass
Anya... Rofi...

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>>6621300
ppl was fcking mad at Kiara at the start for speaking in JP. she is still doing it, but lessnowadays.

i can imagin cover has got some restrictions for this case for new members of hololiveEN.

if you have got any doubt about it just take a look at this fucking thread.

>> No.6621505

>>6621410
A lot of people were so upset that Gura didn't make a slow pop English song. The balls of this shark to make a song that she likes.

>> No.6621515

>>6621361
Nigga I didn't say any of that stop being retarded on purpose.

>> No.6621577

>>6621515
That's the logic you are trying to put forward. Ollie will stream in English because that's what she wants even if she's from HoloID. Irys can sing in nip because that's what she wants as well.

>> No.6621599

>>6618967
BIG RED HEART

>> No.6621642

>>6621599
Haachama shouldn't even release an English song by all of your retard's logic

>> No.6621644

>>6621496
This may just be me, but i feel like holotalk is mostly just flexing her jp and gaining that sweet rice audience.
Show is supposed to be for the dumb non japanese speakers but it feels so disconnected that the main audience may as well be jp and the en dogs are just watching from the windows.

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>>6621458
at least Kiara working hard.
Anya is ..yukkuri

>> No.6621690

>>6621505
>citypop is JP genre.
ironic

>> No.6621695

>>6621644
I don't know what you mean. Holotalk seems fine. It's supposed to be for newbies who are in this case, EOPs. Sometimes you get new info. Just like what Matsuri shared that she and Luna had a fight that's why they didn't collab for a long time.

>> No.6621733

>>6621577
(you)

>> No.6621764

>>6621733
No retort. Logic destroyed.

>> No.6621771

>>6621644
>flex
yes and no
>everything else
anon you are delusional.

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6621843

>>6620411
It looks like you are experiencing a large pain in your butt

>> No.6621851

>>6620411
I wish your mother dropped you as hard as you dropped out of highschool. You'd raise humanity's IQ by two folds.

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6621907

>>6621644
>"her smug aura mocks me"

>>6621695
eather bite, or people just trying to justify hate towards her

>> No.6621985

>>6621642
Haachama is EN0 so it's fine for her to sing English songs.

>> No.6622031

>>6621695
Holotalk has no audience interaction, it would be so much better as a video format with subtitles. And then there's the Coco Holotalk done in Japanese for the Japanese viewers, what happened to helping the EOPs?

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>>6618863
Western music industry is even more jewish and autistic than Japanese gaming industry

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>>6621985
>EN0
gonna use any bullshit to "justify" your position?
i see.

>> No.6622095

>>6621695
Kiara doesn't do a very good job of translating and constantly talks about herself rather than her guest so you learn next to nothing about them that you couldn't get from 10 minutes of clip watching. Then again Kiaras audience are the normiest of normies.

>> No.6622144

>>6622090
I'm not the whole thread and don't think they should sing in exclusively one language, but not singing any songs in the language of their branch seems wrong. It would be like complaining if Haachama ONLY sang in English.

>> No.6622156

>>6621287
I know the difference, the difference is that one is beneficial to you, so you think it's based, and the other isn't, so you think it's cringe. If anything, the Ollie situation is the one that's worse, because she barely does anything to engage with her Indonesian audience, while IRyS is streaming in English 95% of the time.

>> No.6622268

>>6622031
>it would be so much better as a video forma
IRL bloopers

>subtitles
are you going to read for 2h?

>no audience interaction
did you watche Meme Review?

>Coco Holotalk done in Japanese
EOP logic.
Did you watched Coco's stream despite Meme Review? She almost exclusively speaks in JP. Her main fanbase is JPniki and this was her last interview.

>> No.6622304

>>6622144
This is the archived one. Wait for the unarchived stream. She does sing in English before. And the whole EP was produced by other people. She has never shown any skills before in songwriting or production. The only people that any should shit on is HoloEN management. The girl just wants to sing and play games. What is so hard to understand. She also has a lot of English phrases in her songs which is more that I can ask given that it was made by jp producers. The incorporation of the phrases are perfect as well.

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>>6622144
>Haachama ONLY sang in English
aren't both her songs in EN?
do your reps anon

>> No.6622507

>>6622268
>IRL bloopers
Basically the only reason and it's not a big one.
>are you going to read for 2h?
Yes? People watch anime with subtitles.
>did you watche Meme Review?
Meme Review would have mainly benefited from Coco translating the memes ahead of time. But unlike Holotalk, the stream discussion was in Japanese for the Japanese. Coco didn't go out of her way to cater to EOPs (even if they still watched and liked it) so it doesn't need subtitles.
>Did you watched Coco's stream despite Meme Review? She almost exclusively speaks in JP. Her main fanbase is JPniki and this was her last interview.
I did not watch Coco much, but I don't disagree with you. I was saying that Holotalk is (supposed to be) an EOP program. It's not like most of the other holos going on Holotalk have mainly EOP audiences.

>> No.6622574

>>6619941
Chumkeks are retards lol

>> No.6622582

>>6620411
Damn this anon is seething so much I can almost smell it.

>> No.6622583

>>6622304
>a lot of English phrases
>jp producers
god bless you anon
>blame HoloEN management
it's about time. i surprised that people do not see how EN management incompetent even compare to Cover(JP)

>> No.6622622

>>6622156
>Indonesian audience
Kek this nigga thinks ID fags actually watch streams. Ollie may be in the ID branch but she appeals to EN viewers. IRyS is in the EN branch and appeals to EN and is called an ENGLISH vsinger. Ollie isn't called a ID streamer she's ID because that's where she is from.

>> No.6622684

>>6621191
This is the ideal way. Coco used to do it like that as well in her Zatsudans, 20 minutes of straight JP talk followed by translating 1-2 sentences in English. Best of both worlds.

>> No.6622764

>>6621644
I watch holotalk at 1.5 speed for my listening reps. The only streams from Kiara that I watch.

>> No.6622822

>>6618863
>only sings songs in Japanese
And thank fuck for that
English is a harsh language to hear sung, you basically have to mangle it and say shit the wrong way to make it even moderately listenable or give it any kind of real melodic flow

>> No.6622911

>>6622622
Yeah as her career has progressed she's speaking less and less Indonesian in her streams.
And when she does, she's translating. Unless she's getting fingered on stream

>> No.6622945

>>6622622
How retarded and selective you must be. Your logic is EN so only EN so that means ID so only ID. Irys appeals to many people not just EOP. Her EP is charting in JP music charts as well alongside Suisei and Gura. She gets more nip comments compared to many of the EN talents like Kiara who plays mostly JP titles

>> No.6623077

>>6622507
>IRL bloopers
we would not get MOST clip worth material without them.
maybe we have got different definition. by this i mean spicy Q out of nowher. example Kiara asked A-chan about color of her.. you know.

>are you going to read for 2h?
most normies who are core of this show would not go out of their way for it. i think you are do not fully understand why streaming appeal to people.

>did you watche Meme Review?
i used Meme Review as contr example in discussion about audience interaction, to establish that this type of shows does not need it.
you cann not even read fucking chat .
be more focused anon.

>Coco Holotalk
can we leave it alon?
Kiara has got several sections for dedicated EOP fans.

>> No.6623163

>>6622945
Not that guy but you gotta be extra retarded to interpret what he said how you did.
Also
>Muh charts
It's funny how much less that matters than you think it does.

>> No.6623173

>>6622911
i would too with seaniggers like this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WbyQaZZMDkM

>> No.6623274

>>6623173
one more victory for EOP

>> No.6623316

>>6619640
Do you not understand original songs?

>> No.6623372

>>6619718
How about original songs you dumbfuck? You know, songs that SHE MADE?

>> No.6623374

>>6623163
It is the only way to interpret it. Just because they have a tag of ID or EN doesn't mean they have to be restricted in the language format that they will be using. It's actually more grating for an ID streamer to not use ID language 95% of the time than an Anime girl sing an anime songs or jpop. Ollie's defense is because she reaches more people with English. The ENVsinger singing mainstream weeby songs that attracts the same people that got into her music is not so hard to realise. She interacts in English. Now again for people demanding English songs. Fucking wait for the unarchived one.

>> No.6623471

>>6623372
She's not making any songs. If you want to find fault then why aren't you shitting on Gura or Calli or Kiara or Moona for not having all English or all ID songs? Her songs are perfect blend of anime songs that has incorporated English phrases. If they fucking went full English it will probably sound like that mediocre Sparks song or Diamond City Lights. Awkward af.

>> No.6623489

>>6623173
God dam.
Indonesian is a hell of a language. I can barely catch anything in terms of distinct words.
It sounds like total gibberish

>> No.6623559

>>6623471
Oh sorry didn't know all those people were labeled and marketed as ENGLISH VSINGER.

>> No.6623601

>>6623372
Gura - Reflect
Music/Mix/Master - Farhan Sarasin
Lyrics - Neko Hacker

>> No.6623603

>>6623471
It's not surprising for a Japanese company whose sole profit comes from anime girls to hire producers that are from the same background. It will only sound bad if they force a full English song. Like a bad dub. The only way they can nail it is if they hire an English music producer to make a pop song similar to what famous tiktokers are churning out.

>> No.6623648

>>6623559
They are ENGLISH vtubers. The other is an INDONESIAN vtuber. You must be surprised that holoid released an INDONESIAN idol song.

>> No.6623651

>>6620411
EN attracts people like this
it was a fucking mistake

>> No.6623663

>>6620411
A voice of reason in this absolute dumbfaggotry of a thread.

>> No.6623701

>>6623663
Stop replying to yourself

>> No.6623725

>>6623471
>Sparks
Hold on!
you can shit on Kiara, but KIRA made great song

fixxed version btw

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5M-NelkdeAk

>> No.6623774

>>6623648
They are vtubers from EN and from ID. They aren't marketed as ENGLISH VSINGER!!!!!
cope harder

>> No.6623798

>>6623725
That is great. Chicken voice HATE

>> No.6623824

>>6623651
EN was only a mistake because it made Cover realize that it's all about the money and they don't care about anything else anymore.

>> No.6623845

>>6623173
She's right though. Indos have no money, she's going for that kaigai superchat. I'd do the same.

>> No.6623884

>>6620647
U mad bro?

>> No.6623892

>>6623725
Just remove her voice altogether lamo.

>> No.6623915

>>6620647
>sperg post
You must be 18 + to post here

>> No.6623935

>>6623603 Cover is JP company there is no surprise they used there connection to make and EP with JP producer.
>but EN management
bunch of incompetent, inexperienced noones

>> No.6624155

>>6620411
>Just look at actual japanese reactions to this, they're confused as hell as well
post a link faggot
>I'm having an aneurysm I can't believe this, you're all a bunch of fucking idiots. This is twitter levels of delusion and clown world fuckery, at least it's just over anime girls this time.
nigger are you retarded what community this whole vtuber shit was birth from last i checked EN FUCKS ENJOY JP SONGS AS MUCH AS EN SONG

>> No.6624288

I hope she only sing in nip so that all of you retards die from seething

>> No.6624390

>>6623725
Well shit. Not sure if I want to listen to the original version after this. I actually like this. It really does sound like KIRA's vocaloids singing.

>> No.6624440

>>6624390
Kiara's chicken voice is the only thing that I can blame why her song isn't viral. What a debuff

>> No.6624576

>>6623725
>>6624390
damn..
i have nothing against Kiara's voice but she rly limits her own potational.
She should make "Suisei" move and officialy switch her voice for lower one.

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>>6624440
>>6624576
Hold on anons, I changed my mind. I just listened to the original version for the first time and I actually like it. I am legit terrified now.

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>>6624994
welcome to KFP

>> No.6625274

>>6618863
Sora, but in English. How is the appeal hard to get?

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6625460

>>6618863
Pic related. Seriously.

>> No.6625661

>>6620411
Cry louder absolute faggot, and then kys

>> No.6625698

>>6624994
That's what an abusive relationship looks like.

>> No.6626474

>>6625189
Question. What does KFP sell?
Are they selling phoenix meat? Where the fuck they getting phoenix meat?
Are they selling Kiara?
Can I buy Kiaras meat?
Can I buy a bucket of her breasts and thighs?

>> No.6628129

>>6618863
they all sing in Japanese, including other ENs

>> No.6628255

>>6620280
Why would they do it? English lyrics sound ugly as fuck, especially compared to Japanese

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6628337

>>6623701
Why do you assume things?

>> No.6628354

>>6625698
Well shit. No wonder I have an affinity for menheras

>> No.6628422

>>6620913
Based beyond belief

>> No.6628425

>>6624155
>Cruise control
For the love of God can you stop acting like an underaged fag who just discovered swear words and Caps Lock?

>> No.6628455

>bring her on as an individual
>call her a "Vsinger"
>give her special treatment
>she's not even that good

>> No.6628767

>>6622822
Exactly this

>> No.6628866

>>6623725
>Listen to this
>Havent even watched the original and never will
I'LL NEVER GIVE YOU A CLICK KIARA

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6629045

>>6622822
So you are saying it's takes more skill to sing in English rather than in Japanese...

>> No.6629092

Isn't it because JP songs are much easier to get the rights for? Meanwhile in the west, the entire music industry is effectively an oligopoly between Sony, Universal and WMG, and you'll get demonetized out the ass if you have 5 seconds of Pachelbel's Canon in D playing in the other room

>> No.6629153

>>6629092
Pretty much. And it's even fucking worse if you're in Germany...

>> No.6629163

>>6629092
I mean, that's ultimately the real reason why all archived karaoke is JP songs. Cover already has the rights to stream those. There's a few english songs that Cover does have, but this entire thread is just bait.

>> No.6629214

>>6629092
Just sing the songs of dead people man, what are they going to do, sue you?

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>>6629163
Hey (you). Yeah (you)! Stream [We Are Vox Monster] now!
https://youtu.be/2ZAnCRFGuYU

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>>6629465
No

>> No.6629691

>>6629465
Mass repliers get the rope

>> No.6629831

>>6629465
Rip VOMs they killed themselves with the drama and shit model replacement.

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6630325

>>6629465
Graduate already, western hapa and western influenced whore.

>> No.6631829

>>6622070
Now say without posting that bitch with the phat ass.

>> No.6634950

An English original would be nice.

>> No.6635640

>>6620411
I'm not interested in generic anime songs, so I am not interested in her. You have a point, but English songs are extremely hard to get permissions for, so I doubt a true EN singer will exist.

>> No.6638168

>>6618863
Astel is your actual Hololive English member anon.

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6641348

>>6626474
>NDA
Phoenix chicken
"The Phoenix is a German breed of long-tailed chicken. It derives from cross-breeding of imported long-tailed Japanese birds similar to the Onagadori with other breeds."

>> No.6641601

>>6635640
This...I like her music as much as my favorite anime op but thats not exactly somthing I'd spend money on but disagree on the 2nd part since to me a vsinger should be releasing originals. That shouldn't be a problem. Technically we have ENvsinger its calli but she not liked on /vt/ so it doesn't count. Despite her crazy popularity outside of /vt/

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