/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

>TWNBJ

>>66109906
Those "talented" people aren't making the company any money even after everything Nijisanji did for them, it's a company not a charity if the livers can't even pull in the audiance and generate money why should Anycolour waste their money and resources on that?

>>66109906
Riku gave an interview in which he explained that he only cares about short-term profits.

This is the 3rd thread with similar topic i've seen this day, the other one is still in the catalog, stop spamming and stick to just one, damn

>>66112064
Whose idea was it to cross contaminate males into NijiEN? Because that's what killed their momentum. They were growing steadily before that.

>>66109906
Hey now, boats are cool, you guys just wouldn't understand.

>>66112742
The same dude who actually had some success by recommending said idea to the JP branch.

>>66109906
>What the fuck is their fucking problem?
They couldn't fucking find Mary

>>66109906
>Kyo
>Enna
>Millie
>Vox
>Hex
>Luca
>talented

Ya'll "fans" and "antis" are the ones who want them to go down. So now that it's going down, what are you yapping about??

>>66119782
>y'all
only nijichinks, femoids, and trolls say that
we certainly dont have niggers here
so yeah, you 100% need to hang yourself
not any other methods, specifically hang, with a noose
gg bozo

Now it's corpo bad / talents good but not long ago you were shitting on Selen, Pomu and every niji member
Just being a niji was enough to make people seethe
Pomu deserved better, nijisanji is a black company but /vt/ is filled with double standard faggots

>>66112064
>Cancel a bunch of profitable projects
>"WHAT THE FUUUUCK WHY ARE WE NOT MAKING ANY MONEY???"

>>66109906
Nijisanji is full of expendable talent. The fact they got rid of Gundou of all fucking people should've shown you that.

>>66120540
It's the same with every corpo except for the blue dorito. Nijisanji just happens to be the public enemy number one.
Anyway, all that comes with the territory. /vt/ was created as a containment board for holofags, so you're retarded if you come here expecting to hear good things about any other agency.

>>66122107
But there are many good news about Phase here.

>>66112064
Looking purely at stream revenue the EN livers make something close to a third of the entire JP branch. The issue is that the management level has completely failed to capitalize on merch sponsors and events at a comparable level, largely due to a complete unwillingness to advertise.

>>66109906
Nijisanji was never meant to be a long term project for Riku, he saw a gap in the market and an opportunity for some quick bucks. No one's more surprised that it's still going than him but it's still making money so he'll keep it alive. One day it'll close doors for good and it's rabid self-consuming fan base will have no idea why

>>66109906
>talented
Half of them are tumblr woke cretins. It's enough to destroy fun as an entertainment.

>>66109906

>>66122845
Nope, he really liked the tech aspect behind it and that's what got him started, the JP branch can finance hundreds of more EN reboots even if their approach to them will always be bad, eh, maybe one will succeed.
>>66109906
I still love Mito too much to not have some fondness for their brand, but without Pomu I don't think I will apply for En anymore, maybe Vspo! en2 whenever that happens in 20 years (I know Brave! Is going to fumble the bag too, you just gotta get used to rough love I guess)

>>66120540
Besides a bit of /b/omu shitposting and a few actual nijikeks shitting on Selen's menhera, I don't think that's true. The last time anyone seriously shit on Pomu was the "all out war" era, i.e. nearly two years ago, and even then it was obviously because she was a symbol of the company rather than personal antipathy. Both Pomu and Selen are well-liked, to the extent /vt/ likes anything at all.

>>66122107
not a containment board
never was a containment board
nijiseethe about it

>>66109906
they stopped caring about providing a good support network for their talents and started caring more about how to make the next instalment on riku's yacht instead

>>66112458
Shareholder obligation, pwease understa

>>66122256
Outside their own threads? Not really. There's more shitposting than positive threads about them and their only talent who seems to be universally liked is Tenma.
They've managed to steer clear of any major controversies so shitposters don't have a lot of ammunition right now, but if anything bad happens to them it will be used against them for months or even years to come. Just like with every other corpo.

>>66126665
bro there was the pippa boyfriend thing not too long ago, bad things do happen to phase, it just isn't get brought up to use on them because phasefags haven't yet decalred war on holofags

>>66126956
I'm talking about bad things related to Phase itself. Something that would cause everyone to call them a black corpo. All it takes is one fuck up or a disgruntled talent and that's it.
Some dude tricking people into thinking Pippa has a boyfriend is not Phase's fault.

>>66109906
we really need the boat please understand

>>66109906
Normal corpo mindset, with the added trouble of being a JP one.

>middle manager looking for some extra achievements: huuh we could do a EN branch
>CEO board: sure why not
>mm: ehh we can do like we do in JP
>CEO board: whatever
>mm: delegates work on some low levels and annoys HSKW to make a gen0 song and such
>livers come and go into mm's pet project
>mm got his extra pay and loses interest on the project, bails and delegates it into some other poor shmuck
>project goes to shit
>CEO board: whatever it's a side branch don't care
>pomu: can I has 3D pls
>new manager: lmao you will never be japanese
>pomu: k bye

>>66129229
No it wouldn't, do you still see us bring up idol management fucking or wactor unprompted? They got their two weeks of mockery and are promptly forgotten about. That's because their fans, and most importantly their talents didn't start wars with holofags. You made this bed, now you get to lie in it.

>>66109906
Money machine goes BRRRRRRR.
In all seriousness, wth the way he's handling his company it's very clear Riku was born into a salary man family so he learned early on how to reach heights by stepping on the heads of the easily manipulated.

Just make more male collabs with the Livers, I'm sure that this will fix things...

VSPO EN will be the final nail in their coffin

>>66112742
Luxiem at their peak had far more success than the first 3 female waves ever had or could had hoped to have. I don't watch any of them, but it is a plain fact. The real problem was, firstly, letting the retards in Luxiem crash their own careers, and secondly, messing up every single wave that came after.

>>66133444
There was a thread just a few days ago making fun of Idol for fucking their talents, and Wactor will forever be called a black corpo. My point is that practically every corpo other than Cover is called black for something they've done years ago (and often for doing something similar to what Cover has done to their talents or what Holos have done to other vtubers), and there's nothing they can do to fix their reputation.
>That's because their fans, and most importantly their talents didn't start wars with holofags.
The fans of most other corpos haven't talked shit about Hololive or its fans either, yet they will get shat on all the same. And yes, it's often unprompted.

>>66109906
Do you have any idea how cool yachts are?

>>66137383
>often unprompted
retard alert
so are you saying massive yabs aren't supposed to be discussed by anyone regardless of which "side" they support?

With the sheer amount of talent Nijisanji hires, it's virtually impossible to hire just as many managers so I have absolutely zero doubt that they unironically hire bottom of the barrel retards to manage their NijiEN branch.

>>66141131
I have no problem with that. All shitposting is fine as long as it's warranted. My problem is with the constant deflections, change of narratives, cognitive dissonance, all that jazz.
>often unprompted
By this I meant bringing up unrelated vtubers and corpos just to shit on them or spread rrats and other misinformation.

>>66141688
It works financially.

>>66112742
It worked for Nijisanji before.