/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

Some pretty big vtubers were 1views or 2views for years before they had their breakthrough. Mouse is a big example.

There's some truth to what you say, but networking is hard for some people and sometimes you just don't know the right people to get good reach.
Also exposure isn't worth much without content to back it up. Even if someone finds you, if they won't see content on your page then they will move on and forget you 2 minutes later, so work on content before you have lots of followers.

>>65982081
Bijou proves your dumb ass wrong, now go take your reddit wall of text image and go back to your home country

>>65982081
ok
you do it faggot

>>65982081
>dude just work for hololive lol

hololive English is the home over multiple never-Partnered 2 views and some who barely streamed at all

>>65982415
I'm not a Vtuber though. But what I say is true.

>>65982277
Mouse isn't a great example because ENvtubing hadn't blown up yet.
I don't necessarily think someone is a "failure" if they can't hit OP's goals, but it's a good sign that you need to rethink what you're doing. There's a niche for everyone in the vtubing space as long as you're a girl and can hustle.

>>65982081
this is just a reddit post

>>65982081
If you need to express your point of view through a meme you're a failure of a human being.
Someone needs to say it OP

>>65982081
This is you OP

I know someone only got 2k after her second year and is now part of Idol corp and vtubing became her full time job. Don't let OP think you won't make it, as long as you do cool stuff and genuinely enjoy the shit you do people will notice sooner or later

HE POSTED THE REDDIT MEME FORMAT, THIS MEANS HE MUST BE RIGHT

>>65983190
Why is this meme even popular anyway? It's just text, you could replace Lisa with a Facebook Minion picture and it'd give the exact same vibes.

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>>65982666
Unrelated, but why would anyone partner up with that? You don't get to own your design or keep it, even if you came up with it. I originally auditioned, but that turned me away. Shit's dumb.

>>65983963
You are hired as an "independent contractor" for these sorts of thing, where you are given no rights but are expected to act like a freestanding creator within their group. At least in big corpos you are paid enough money to shut up about it.
I stopped watching corposhit a long time ago for how inauthentic everything feels.

>>65982081
If you're a numbermonkey you're a failure of a person. And also a faggot

>>65982081
learn English

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0i9gkprYekI

>>65983963
They don't get full control over their design, but they do get some input, and it's usually going to be from a really good artist and rigger (rhombus Gura aside). That extends to most aspects of hololive really, in exchange for fitting into their brand guidelines the members get access to resources that 99.99% of indies will never see in their lives. The former is necessary for the company to feel comfortable plowing money into the latter.

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>>65985664
And that's why I'm glad I walked away from that. I get full creative control, and ownership of everything "me". Yeah, I had to spend upwards of 5k alone but, I can say that I own myself.

>>65982081
>twitch
Who cares

>>65985826
>And that's why I'm glad I walked away from that. I get full creative control, and ownership of everything "me". Yeah, I had to spend upwards of 5k alone but, I can say that I own myself.
don't lie to youself, you're just making up reasons to accept you got turn downed or didn't make the cut

>>65982081
What is this reddit ass meme? Go back to r/virtualyoutubers, retardchama

>>65985826
And if that's the tradeoff you want to make then that's totally fair, but it's not like people are wrong for wanting into a group where someone with 300 viewers gets to perform on stage in front of tens of thousands of people right next to the most popular female streamer on earth.

>>65982081
Shut the fuck up you stupid faggot. Do not discourage more vtubers, it provides people with a steady stream of egirls to hook up with.

Femanons you are amazing and can totally make it as a vtuber because you are very original and funny.

>>65986221
And if you're a guy? Should you follow what OP said then?

>>65982081
>twitch

>>65982081
What is the arbitrary time limit based on?

>>65986169
I mean walking on eggshells, having to say/do/like whatever your handler tells you to? I just don't find that fun. Yeah, it would be nice to be up there with the most popular streamers, but there's no one I'd rather be, than me.

>>65986589
Yes, because being you has worked out so well

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>>65986589
I think you're vastly overstating the level of restrictions put on their content. Pretty much the only things off limits are politics and anything R18.

>>65982842
She’s a bad example because she was around during the time when all you had to do was pretend to like hololive to get an audience. She could’ve debuted a week after myth and gone through the same shit

>>65986898
>>65986650
Maybe, but I rather be myself, and be able to "own" myself. Yeah, I might be smaller than if I took the deal, and I'm well aware I'm a small fry, but can't put a price on peace of mind. I currently have 20k followers, around 143 active chatters per stream, and a 600+ member discord. Would I be bigger if I went that direction? Sure. But I'm content with what I got.

As for OP, don't listen to their advice. People grow at their own pace. It may take years, but if you have the perseverance you'll get there. Maybe not today, maybe not tomorrow, but you will. Chin up, and just have fun.

>>65983963
Because people that audition for hololive usually aren’t children or greedy whores that plan to leave after stealing an audience. Most plan to retire afterwards because that should realistically be the plan. No matter how bad you do or little you work it will be impossible for a member of hololive to make less than 6 figures usd with a tenth the effort you could put out alone.

>>65985664
Gura wanted that your second rigger and Artist is usually up to you. You also get full control over your outfits, special models (smols, furball, sponsored), and cover doesn’t invest in anything besides the model which you pretty much have full creative control over after the original. If you wanted to you could redebut to make it closer to the aesthetic and quality you desired as long as you remained an elf, shark or whatever. The less complicated the more control you have over the redesign

>>65985826
And you’re just trying to feel important. You didn’t walk away you failed. No one’s putting a headset into Pomu or Gura’s ears forcing them to say or do anything.

>>65985382
actually based

>>65986898
Politics are the only thing off limits en girls just choose not to bring it up because it makes hiding relationships easier. Gura has made more than a few porn references, and Bae has had streams where her fans send her pick up lines (it’s literally just how they’ll fuck) as she pretends to not understand them. Then there’s jp who bring up porn, masturbating and notlesbian sex not to mention the hentai games. The only limit is what youtube allows

>>65985735
actually based

>>65987502
>Big lebowski, very masculine writing style, posts on 4chan and supposedly has a big enough audience size to make a little over the federal minimum wage.
If you were a real vtuber you’d be incredibly easy to find. On twitch there’d be less than 200 on yt less than 150.

>>65987502
Dude no one cares, I was just poking you to see if you're the type to get one guy'd. All you had to say was, "Yes, I like me."

reminder my oshi was a 3 view for quite a while
and now she's one of the top performers
believe in yourself and don't let ghouls like OP dissuade you

>>65982081
Must be true as proven by vtubers like sora and suisei.

>>65990453
You didn’t watch her back then and you certainly don’t watch her now if you think her situation is comparable

>>65990584
>Start vtubing and get shit numbers
>Continue to get shit numbers until your friend gives you a Christmas miracle
>Stagnate again until better members come into being and start’s funneling viewers outward
>Attach yourself to one of the most popular members
>New international friends are made and attach yourself to the only vtuber with musical success
Well yes op is stupid why doesn’t every indie just copy this very easy blueprint. They could even make a name for it like Indielive and be like a type of group. I hate when people that don’t watch holos use them as an example.

>>65982081
At those numbers you're a hobbyist and there's no failure at that level if you're having fun.

>>65983963
hahah so true sis like who would actually apply for hololive lmao def not me sis literal black company lol

>>65982081
Third sentence is redundant

>>65982081
Reddit meme, go back

>>65990684
Miko almost quit several times due to poor numbers. She also wasn't actually a streamer for her first year or so. And even when she did stream those archives didn't survive and would be turned into a video later, like her minecraft Diamond RTA that turned into her being taught how to play by Wrench and that other dude.

>>65982081

>twitch

>>65982081
You are a failure of a typesetter. You have needless newlines. It looks like shit.

>>65982081
>If you don't get instant success, give up
Zoomer take lol

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>>65982081
Shit formatting OP

>>65991405
Should I start listing shit from that time to? You didn’t watch her if you think her success was due to streaming alone same with 99.9% of holos

>>65992666
Quit and get a real job is a boomer take

>>65982081
Holy wordswordswords, it's going off the screen

>>65987502
>Chin up, and just have fun.
Brotuber my dude what if my 2view oshi has not been having much fun the last weeks?
I-is she gonna throw in the towel after just 6 months and 1k followers?...

pic unrelated it's just a funny one

>>65998619
Pace yourself, and take breaks if needed.

>>65982081
Nonsense

>>65998619
If a 2view is not having fun streaming she needs to stop her career.
Note: If success = fun, the corpos have brainwashed you

>>65982081
https://twitchtracker.com/waabyuu/statistics

>>65982081
>twitch

>>65982081
>you’re a failure you’re a failure you’re a failure
Okay, then back up your statement with the reasons as to /why/. Failure at being a vtuber? How? Are you referring to income? Exposure? You need to put whatever variable you’re talking about in front of the damn noun.
Also Lisa Simpson presentation meme doesn’t suddenly make your argument good.

>>65982081
what's worse than a numberfag is a reddit numberfag. kys faggot

>>65982081