/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

>know your audience
>think long term
basically it

>>65899969
dont forget
>scoop up the better talents from failed corps

They have a ridiculously strong foundation because they hired a Gen1 with retard strength. They essentially found a mini Holo with Pippa. Small corpos would kill to have Tenma or Lia as their #1s, and Phase has them just chilling there.

Also they have a front office that listens and makes reasonable compromises with talent.

>>65899829
Their secret is that they have no shame
One of their girls is caught sucking cock or saying nigger every week but they dont care

pandering to kiwiniggers and doxxing SEAmonkeys
thats it, really, they have no other "fans"

>>65899829
>went right
said the phasecuck.

>>65899829
They have a guy who knows how to pay people for their work and how not go bankrupt while doing so.

When somebody offers a written contract with minimal guaranteed pay, and everybody thinks they're trying to scam them because it sounds too good, it makes you think how fucked the small corpo scene is.

>>65900589
/thread

They captured the contrarians and ironic vtuber fans who didn't want to watch generic hololive but also already fell for all the vshojo and niji rrats.

The girls have really good chemistry with each other compared to all the other English corpos. Every gen since gen 2 have interacted with each other for almost a year before debut. Like when you compare that to hololive English or nijisanji English the synchronicity of the girls is better

they have a CEO who listens and is flexible

>>65903620
Other CEOs:
>I need more superchats to fund my luxury private yacht

Phase CEO:
>I just wanna play League of Legends and sell coffee

>>65899829
Instead of being bland “idols” like Hololive, or being screwed over by management like Niji, they are in the happy middle ground. All of phase girls are interesting characters to say the least and come from various backgrounds.

>>65903620
He almost made gen1 quit.
There is a timeline Pippa, Tenma, Lia, and Uruka pull a v-dere in early 2022 and Phase dies

>>65899829
>>65900589
\thread

>>65900218
>hiring kana

>>65899829
They stepped in shit with their EN gen1. It is the small corpo equivalent of Myth

>>65904637
He also stopped them from quitting by sitting down and talking to them all.

Fishman may fail at dealing with people but he seems to be a good businessman.

Never Forget, Never Forgive

>>65900589
>>65900589
>>65900589
>>65900589
>>65900589
>>65900589

i don't care about phaseshills

>>65899969
>know your audience
>audience is a bunch of cucks
whew

>>65900515
so only catering to 4chin cucks?

>>65904637
key flashpoints where sakana listened to his talents and prevented potential disaster
>listened to gen1 and hired a manager
>let lia drop her forced ashelia character/model when she was gonna quit otherwise
>listened to fans when he was gonna force pippa out of her timeslot and fill it with a gen2
>listened to gen1 backlash in september 22 when he wanted to make the company more seiso
>hired lumi at the request of pippa
>hired tenma at the request of pippa
>didn't do prebuild models for gen3 after the talents insisted he make them custom

the only mistake he made
>hired yuri at the request of pippa

The amount of seething in this thread is astounding.

>>65904817
Which one is Kana, none of them sound like her. I keep hearing she is in, but i honestly cant tell which one of the new ones she is.

>>65905842
the one with the lowest viewerbase

>>65899829
Thanks for the isolated Lia stare bro I've been looking for it

>>65905781
Some /asp/ retards that are butthurt that the only ship they had a chance on is starting to sail further and further away.

>>65899829
Letting Muumi manage the talent when they were pissed off at fishman basically saved shit. Not saying Phase is perfect (people are still unsure over the whole Yuri situation and her getting nuked despite being an invader) but they are the standout small corpo for a reason. Although now you could argue they are a medium corpo.

They haven't had a massive scandal on the scale of Riro Ron from Idol yet either. There might be yabs, VODs getting nuked like Lia's CWC watchalong and other stupidity over the years but companies ought to be looking at PC as a company done right.

>>65900589
Yet Phase won't buy ads on 4chan or TVA (the kiwi spinoff for vtubers - Phase Friend Hexa is a poster there).

Wemi

>>65906031
>They haven't had a massive scandal on the scale of Riro Ron from Idol yet either
it's because Sakana is vague and doesn't overshare.
He flat out said they have to put fires every week that people will never know about. Phase had to navigate 2 difficult waters at the start of last eyar with Lia & Pippa, but they did so expertly.

Yuri might have been as bad as Ron...or not. Point is we don't know and that was by design and Phase were smart about it. People are on a need to know basis, and some shit they don't need to know.

Besides getting lucky/Sakana being a seer with gen 1, phase's real strength is that they have good managers. And by good I mean "not a mentally ill tranny who ignores the girl he's managing nor a discord groomer who just wants to fuck girls".

The bar is low, but PC cleared it easily.

>>65899829
Vshojo light.

PANKO MANKO

>>65906237
I don't know, it seems like their strategy to get out of trouble is just "don't talk about it," which heavily relies on the audience just moving on. Of course I'm not behind the scenes, so there may be more to it that I'm not seeing.

>>65905747
>>didn't do prebuild models for gen3 after the talents insisted he make them custom
I think he did the same with gen 2, Panko said she had some input with her model.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BhvOMcQEgYo

>>65906009
They don't need Phase. Just find a money mark and have a strategy that works. Have a decent set of staff that aren't going to implode the company later on. Don't just copy tactics. IMPROVE on them.
Unironically despite it being a whore company, not-Riifu's announcement stream is actually good research and could easily be applied to SFW corpos. https://www.twitch.tv/videos/2014917050
I wish I had money to do my own thing but I just cannot for various reasons. I know people are getting sick of everything being over saturated but there can still be new VTuber groups that work out well.

>>65906031
>>65906237
Yuri was nowhere close Ron, you just can't keep stuff like that covered for this long. Based on how pissed off Panko sounded, it was probably some internal shit.

>>65906429
everybody in Phase had input on their debut models/content except Lia because she was hired to pilot a predetermined character and she nearly quit because of how bad the situation was.

>>65906031
>Downplay it
>Call them schizos
>Hopefully nobody saw it

>>65899829
>Dizzy openly talking about the ins and outs of managing Vtubers, including admitting to Pippa on stream that she thought Pippa would be a terrible hire.
>Hime talking openly about her grippy sock adventures in a psych ward
>Pippa's wal-mart incident and watching police cam footage
>Lia going into AUTISTIC detail about cannibalism, serial killers, and other niche morbid curiosity topics
>Shiina talking about her weird obsessions with her pet crabs (RIP Beanut)
>Erina talking about how her dad will randomly show her rekt threads and liveleak videos
>Tenma's unapologetic rage

Its like the vtuber company for people who don't want to watch vtubers. I have friends that watch pippa because of her Cops and dash cam streams and don't know what Hololive is. Fishman gave freedom and it got Phase a reputation that other small EN corpo's don't have. For better or for worse, it got eyes on them and kept fans while growing.

>>65906530
She was mad because retards who knew nothing on Twitter was calling Phase a black company and the girls are very close with Sakana. I don't think he let most of the girls know the specifics of why Yuri got fired.

>>65906586
Why was Lia special in that regard? if we know.

>>65906678
Sakana is dumb and Lia was probably the most agreeable menber

>>65899829
They got the cuck audience. Lia is the Ntr queen.

seethe more trannies lmao

>>65906709
Oh, so Sakana just wanted his chuuni OC to be real.

>>65906429
It depended on the talent I believe. Erina got what she wanted, Shiina had different ideas in mind (she wanted be swan themed) but ended up with that model which she thought was too lewd but Sakana said it was fine.
Gen 3 was originally going to be premade models but fans and talent kicked up about it and Sakana backed down, Gen 3 again got their own input with Muyu obviously getting the same artist and rigger as her previous.
All the premade models that were made have ended up getting used as managers. And yes, Lia had no input in hers but she did get what she wanted later on which saved her place in the company.
>>65906586
And yet if you find Nanobites' sub account she is talking about getting lawyers involved...gee I wonder why?
>>65906678
Sakana wanted Ashelia to be the MC of Phase and he was really attached to that model. Obviously, she never ended up as the MC, Pippa did.

>>65906640
>Its like the vtuber company for people who don't want to watch vtubers.
This. Basically the edgy and mature Sony to Hololive's safe and approachable Nintendo.

>>65906817
How do you mature from mass shooting tier lists?

>>65906817
I honestly think Phase is most similar to Hololive 2020 when the main pull was Coco Haachama and fucking Matsuri

>>65906678
>>65906709
>>65906740
Lia was also the last hire of Gen 1. Ashelia had been offered to a few people and they never wanted it. Pippa was nearly going to be this purple cat too before she got the rabbit.
>>65906712
Say what you want but she overcame the donothon yab and she never really lost viewers over it, in fact she has more now. Although some regulars like Flakes are no longer around.
MALE ON STREAM was a stupid thing but it was dealt with remarkably quickly and people accepted her apology. Bonus points for Tenma banning the guy in chat afterwards too.
>>65906817
Yet PC still have a number of "banned subjects". Lia wanted to do a part 2 of CWC given the success of it last time around and was instantly shot down and nearly used her old indie account to do it until she got talked out of it.

>>65906678
Ashelia was Sakana's pet project character that he micromanaged in every regard, from look to content to even wanting to script out every stream.
>Pippa was hired first, and Ashelia was offered to her but she declined it because it wasn't the content she wanted to do and she didn't want fish being that hands on.
>Lia was hired next, and she was offered Ashelia or Uruka. Uruka had more freedom etc, but Ashelia was the Sakana picked MC. Lia, being an absolute rookie who never streamed before, thought she could pull off being the big tittied bimbo dork who would host Minecraft company playtime and longplay vidya.
Turns out Lia was not a traditional chuuba Sakana wanted. Ashelia didn't do well and Lia wanted more freedom to express herself, so Sakana let go of Ashelia and let Lia do her own thing. Lia took off and never looked back.

>>65907015
Flakes got killed for doxposting on the Discord

>>65907056
What a fucking retard. Sucks though since he was an OG from the start. Wish I could find my own corpo chuuba to watch from the start but I couldn't do it for Gen 3. I do want to watch Runie though.

>>65907015
>Lia was also the last hire of Gen 1
She was the 2nd or 3rd hired. Watch streams.

>>65907109
this is correct, we don't know which order tenma or lia was hired, but it was hard confirmed last week lia was hired long before uruka and she was offered to pick between ashelia/uruka as her character.

phase was just sakana, pippa, lia and tenma for a bit before uruka was hired.

>>65899829
>no male chuubas
>good poaching
>limited talent freedom(long leash)
>advertising the brand
>no constant donothons(seriously JewCorp, calm down)

>>65907244
>Uruka's model with Lia's personality

>>65907257
>no constant donothons(seriously JewCorp, calm down)
I still want to see Lia try another one though. I think it would make her overcome what happened last time since she is still upset about how it ended.

>>65907329
I'm glad we got the right Uruka picked.

>>65907257
I think the Jews actually do it out of necessity since most the money they spend is venture capital

>>65907257
>no constant donothons
90% of phase girls have done donothons.
Shit, not saying Phase invented it because subathons are twitch meta, but I don't remember seeing a YT donothon in the small corpo world until Lia did it last year. Then next thing you know every week a small corpo was doing one.

>>65907382
It definitely feels so forced. It what rubs me off the wrong way about Idol. I like that they give them the equipment needed to stream (including audio stuff) but they shouldn't have let all their talent effectively be cunnies.

>>65906747
>And yet if you find Nanobites' sub account she is talking about getting lawyers involved...gee I wonder why?
lol
lmao
AYY LMAO

>>65907432
I just find it funny how inadvertently Jewish the company is.

I just wish the fans would calm down on the shilling.

>>65907015
>Lia wanted to do a part 2 of CWC given the success of it last time around and was instantly shot down and nearly used her old indie account to do it until she got talked out of it
Pippa is banned from guntposting too. Which all things considered, is definitely for the better.

>>65907558
Sorry we're getting in the way of your drama discussion

>>65906747
Nano is a loser who is coping that she got thrown off the best thing in vtubing right before the company incline happened.
If the only person in Phase Nano still talks to is Pippa and she has bad blood with Uruka, Airi, Lia and Tenma, then I would suggest she is the asshole.

>>65907586
Yeah, as much as I love CWC history, shit gets depressing after 2013 and it starts going downhill fast. Only thing I could imagine is it just turning into a depressing reaction stream.

>>65907745
>If the only person in Phase Nano still talks to is Pippa and she has bad blood with Uruka, Airi, Lia and Tenma
considering pippa is a notoriously terrible judge of character, this is a pretty poor endorsement for yuri

>>65907805
In Pippa's case, it's Ralph.
But if you wanna see a vtuber go down the CWC rabbit hole, here's a good 50 hours or so.
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLLlQIZN2H69k5OehhhVpKS4OptLTWd0gk
Or a 12 minute summary
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X2a6CxiO2i0

>>65899829
just say nijien.
no need to be scared

>>65899829
Nothing?
Who the fuck watches Phase Connect other than underage meme lords who also go on /pol/?

>>65907970
You're missing the graveyard of small EN corpos

>>65907805
Part 2 would have been fine if Lia had someone like Pippa join in.

>>65907929
Yeah Lilybelle is basically the CWC vtuber at this point. Which again, would have made her perfect to do this with Lia. Not watched Lilybelle in a while though, last I heard she was at Offkai talking about people wanting to fuck her and stuff.

>>65907970
Sakana WISHES Phase was NijiEN. But he ended up with something more unhinged instead. At least PC girls get their play buttons, right?
>>65908030
Every week a company you have never heard about much implodes. I watched a few of the Project F debuts and they looked nice and weeks later the company fizzled out and they are indies now.

>>65899829
Lmao using as a good example the girl who flirted with a VA guy in the middle of her GFE donothon reward hahaha.

>>65908424
That's most startups really

>>65908424
>Sakana WISHES Phase was NijiEN
I think Sakana had zero clue what he was truly getting himself into, but realize it was working regardless of how far off it was from his vision. No amount of market research can prepare you for people like Tenma, Lia and Pippa working for you.

>>65908598
Considering phase's motto is "Widening the VTuber Rabbit Hole" he definitely knew he was for unusual talents.

>>65908598
I genuinely have no idea what he was think when he hired them man

>>65908515
I mean, she recovered. I unmembered and most of her whales fucked off, but it turns out there's a fuckton of cucks who watch vtubers, and they don't just follow Calli.

>>65908739
>numbers, i only care about a Chuba's loyalty and how well they treat their audience, 0 respect for cuck enablers.

>>65908598
Sakana wanted to get Phase away from Pippa with Gen2 they were supposed to be his startover Idol gen. Right after Gen2 debuted he wanted everybody to clamp down on content and keep girls away from Pippa and keep her isolated.
Only problem is Pippa kept growing...and then Tenma started growing...and then Lia started growing. At a certain point, he just said "fuck it" and let it ride and let his gen1's be themselves.

>>65908682
He didn't. He hired a group of misfits to start his company. He got lucky.
Phase were in unprecedented territory discovering a Pippa. Here is a mini Holo and supa machine. You cannot prepare for that. He almost botched it.

>>65908739
>numbers.
*I only care about a Chuba's loyalty and how well they treat their audience, 0 respect for cuck enablers* fuck forgot to put a full stop on the end.

>>65908695
Watch the Dizzy/Pippa corpo stream... this one.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jXrt4LABQfc
Dizzy explains a lot of Sakana's thought process. Like how he saw Pippa was a hard worker who was ride or die, or how Dizzy herself, before becoming Dizzy, advised fishman against hiring Shiina due to her rm scandal, but Sakana had it clear that it doesn't matter. Either due to the fans being cucks, or because Shiina's abilities would overcome.
It's a good stream, but hella keyfabe breaking.

>Fishman with 6th sense for hiring
>reserve capital (Sakana is a millionaire) to keep the company afloat from the financial perspective
Honestly, it all boils down to fishman being competent or asking for help from competent people. After all, he decided to create Phase Connect on a whim.

>>65909007
I think Shiina got hired as an art slave

>>65906637
do you actually know what this is about because I do and that is exactly the best advice in that situation.

>>65909036
Didn't he get started with a 50k investment? Maybe even 50k CAD?

>>65899829
Because sakana knows what he is doing with phase connect and handles things in a professional way

>>65909162
He's a self made man

>>65909222
I don't mean personal fortune. He said somewhere he only invested 50k when he started Phase Connect, and then it's paid itself.

>>65906916
this exactly for me

>>65909007
Sakana hired Pippa & gen1 because they were his only options.

Dizzy trying to act like her opinion mattered in either situation is funny.

She was in Tsudneria at the time hiring male chuubas that helped kill the company. Her last gift to Tsun before quitting was hiring males.

>>65909349
Dizzy's opinion wasn't considered when Pippa was hired. Her opinion was heard over coffee when Shiina was hired, but it was disregarded because fishman is not just a goddamn seer, but he's also got a saviorfag complex a la Yagoo.

>>65909349
>Dizzy wouldn't have hired 2 of the 4 playbuttons in Phase
>as lead talent manager for Tsunderia, she hired males
Nice lady, but she is a moron.

>>65909349
>>65909504
>>65909422
I didn't even know Tsunderia had males in it before this thread.

>>65909504
nta, going back to the girl who OP choose as the thread image, what kind of viewers are those who stayed after she flirted with a VA in front of them?, how can someone trust a chuuba after that?

>>65899829
The contents in Hololive is more than enough for any reasonable human being to binge watch on.
The large corpo also provides a platform for collabs, cross-collabs. Studios for conducting performances. Managers that will assist your day-to-day task.
Members in Hololive also earn significantly more to their other counterparts. Meaning more incentives to stream and diversify their contents as compared to streaming part time.
The branding of Hololive also brings more benefits such as sponsors, an pre-existing pool of audience.

>>65909629
normalfaggots, feminists and cucks

>>65909629
the ones that stayed are there because she is a lolcow to be mocked, not someone they watch as a content creator

>>65909162
This was his initial investment. I highly doubt he got money back quickly since PC in its first year isn't comparable with the situation right now. Iirc he invested more. Also, in the last AMA he said that he'd been reinvesting PC's profit back into the company ever since.

>>65909819
It paid for the warehouse of his dreams though.

>>65909629
If that was flirting to you you need to touch grass man

>>65909036
he created phase cause Tsunderia Management didnt answer his emails about investing in the company lmao, and now hes got Neo-Tsunderia

>>65909007
Literally every one of the top faces of Phase are brand risks pippa, tenma, lia, shiina, lumi
tsunderia might still be alive if they took on some of those brand risks

>>65909627
Did you reply to the wrong anon or in the wrong thread?

>>65909422
>>65909007
Dizzy, for good or for worse, is deeply entrenched in the vtubing/streaming world, so her views tend to be orthodox. Sakana came from outside, and has/had a completely different point of view. No one else would have given Pippa or Shiina a chance, because everyone else would know how dangerous a menhera can be.

It paid off here, it didn't pay off with Yuri, and we don't know how many times he asked Dizzy's opinion about someone who was rejected. (I do suspect she said no to Kirsche and he agreed).

>>65907026
People shit on the fish for Ashelia but I think it's actually a pretty decent idea, it's only the way things unfolded that was unfortunate.

He should try again desuuu

>>65909910
if that wasnt flirting to you youve missed out on women who were into you, man

>>65910082
nta, and then she straight up stopped gfe rewards and said she doesn't understand internet men.

>>65910076
It could have worked in a traditional setting. Phase isn’t traditional.
He got lucky again that, while Ashelia didn’t work out, Lia was sitting on a dynamic zatsu and she became hell on wheels

>>65909627
I read this in a monotone robot voice.

>>65910172
Well, she is autistic. I wouldn't be surprised if she's been openly flirted with in real life and it went over her head because it wasn't obvious enough.

>>65909629
>I watch vtubers so I can pretend I'm dating them
and you typed all that out like you're proud of it

>>65910172
Yes because when your fans schizo out at you for interacting with who you thought was just a male acquaintance (actually a literal con groomer) you get turned off from that stuff

>>65905652
>>65905703
It worked, didn't it?
It's not very different from the several dozen GFEs chuubas that survive on cuck money anyway
Honestly, surviving with 4chan being your main fanbase is a feat on itself, for like 90% of indies that's career suicide.

>>65910311
Even Beatani left us for a real job.

>>65909995
Fortune favors the bold. Sakana took chances on bold personalities and it paid off.

>>65910311
If you believe appealing exclusively to 4chan to not work and see that Phase is clearly doing something that is working. Have you considered that perhaps Phase is not appealing exclusively to 4chan?

>>65899829
What went right is that Sakana had a moment of clarity and realized he had no idea what he was doing and his company was going to die after Gen1 almost mass quit within the first year due to being so poorly managed and supported (Literally all of them talk about how bad the first year was). So he got his head out of his ass, hired some new managers, and became less micromanaging and more hands off with the content. After this Phase Connect took off as a company and you saw more than just Pippa getting recognition from vtuber fans.

>>65910295
wow a phase talent not knowing what type of person they are inviting on their stream and it ends badly cause hes some kinda freak?
Surely thats the only time thats happened in the last year!

>>65910292
Have you seen the kinds of people who attend cons and openly talk about vtubers on main accounts? At least he had the decency to let it out on 4chan where he can remain anonymous.

>>65910218
probably
fish can still go for it with a new gen built around a nu-ashelia, but imo he's probably burnt out from the whole ordeal lol

>>65910469
>Have you seen the kinds of people who attend cons
Thankfully no.

>>65910295
Meh, the only thing i can think a
bout it's her being so dense that she didn't know what that kind of public dislikes.
>>65910292
so true sister.

>>65910452
I'm just going to assume that you're not talking about something you never watched like you have but she clearly said that she only picked up the call after he spam called her on Discord

>>65910432
This.
4chan is a fraction of Phase's fanbase. I would go on to say its a fraction of any fanbase that gets talked about on here regardless of how big you think the site is.

>>65910292
>I like watching women flirt with other men in front of me
you got a special chair for that in the corner?

>>65910518
yeah cause thats a normal thing to do, so you would answer

>>65910497
You thought Lia is smart?

>>65910561
>special chair
I don't watch streams when males are present but I also don't seethe about it for fucking months afterwards.

>>65910561
Yes. A male spam calling you while you're doing asmr. A male who clearly knows how that would look. This happens literally every day without malicious intent.

>Same guy who doesn't capitalize his sentences desperately cuckposting since the start of the thread
Don't you have anything better to do?

>>65906264
It seems a lot easier for them to connect with the fish and ask him about things than it is for English talents to connect with a Japanese head of a large company. Vshoujo has this too with it being easy to connect with gunrun and he seems to actually know what he's doing. If they ask for permissions or clarifications, they can get it quick rather than going through bureaucracy.

>>65909819
He said they are "Cash positive" and that any potential profit gets reinvested into the company. What that said to me is that while not in danger of collapsing they are still paying off debt and aren't a truly profitable company yet. This is pretty standard for new companies their first several years so its nothing to worry about. It's if we get to like year 5 and Phase Connect is still not profitable then there is something wrong.

>>65910560
vt does not matter.
The only thing that matters are the numbers and the donos.

>>65910703
Which honestly surprises me, I don't know how Sakana can find time for the girls the way he does.
Maybe this really is his passion project.

>>65910432
That's the point. The whole "MUH 4CHINZ FANBASE" doesn't survive for long. Most fuckers here will either drop you for the brand new hotness or go full autismo. But this place is an oasis for stratups since everyone apparently gets interested and turn 2 or even 3view easily, the issue is that it never lasts for long. Phase was smart enough to diversify, some people here, some from other hugboxes, play it safe enough to keep most of them happy.

>>65906264
>phase's real strength is that they have good managers

Yes.

>And by good I mean "not a mentally ill tranny who ignores the girl he's managing nor a discord groomer who just wants to fuck girls".

Sadly that describes the mods for a bunch of the girls.

>>65910685
I was being sarcastic, she shouldn't have answered obviously
but shes lia
and I like lia
>>65910673
It's not "pretending to date them" to not want to watch them flirt with other men. I'm not the guy who brought up the donothon any way

>>65910726
Keep in mind when Sakana said this, this was including the company spending ridiculous amounts of money on gen3. Likely spent more on gen3 than all the other gens combined.

They went all out and overboard with how nice some of the stuff was. Sakana got his return on gen1 in like 2 months, he might never get his return on gen3

>>65910838
nta, do mods sneakily ban users who confess their feelings to talents even if they are respectful?

>>65910838
>Sadly that describes the mods for a bunch of the girls.
Remember when Erina almost gagged when Xalamon asked "what about me" when thanking her mods?

>>65910897
>sneakily
overtly

>>65910892
This is why all of Euphoria need to be 4views at minimum and they should have a ton of pressure on them. It sounds like Phase spent nearly the entire reserve on them.

I liked Tenmas attitude even before she told trannies that they get the rope. Amazing howshe was allowed to do that and the "Apology" she gave wasent forced broadcast and technically didnt even go against what she said

Its almost like the small company with big talents that are just a little too rough for a conservative big company found a good spot in the most functional small corp and its paying dividends

>>65910938
like, how many times have you seen that happening?

>>65911012
I mean, Henri.

>>65911038
Henri wasn't a mod
He was banned for being a schizo anti anyways

>>65905747
Yuri was Pippa? I thought it was primarily Lumi dragging her along because she manipulated the absolute shit out of her

>>65911038
qrd please?, i've been out 4chin for a good while, never asked about phase fanbase lore either.

>>65905747
Well buckle up because its become very likely that the gen 3 pippa nepo hire is Hina.

>>65910897
Yes. I have confessed my feelings for Erina multiple times across several accounts and I'm pretty sure they range banned my IP because she doesn't even acknowledge it.
Worse yet, they also know my address, as I bought Uruka's coffee and it came in 4 months. But any Erina merch comes in 5-6 months because they are probably actively vetting my IP against my address to find who I am before they ship it.

>>65911156
insane pippa unicorn

>>65899829
did something even go right with them? last i checked they were all 3views bar pippa

>>65911136
No. Yuri actually had to talk Lumi into joining Phase with her. Lumi wanted to indie and was reluctant. Sakana wanted Lumi. Pippa wanted them both. Yuri’s in was as a package with Lumi

Phase Connect's strength is that they don't do GFE and actively tell parasocials to fuck off. They hire actual funny entertainers. Other agencies just copy Hololive and try to milk lonely people.

>>65911156
public execution of huge schizo who confessed to a number of girls through superchats, maros and on discord, though I guess his main one was Pippa.

>>65911156
Literal shizo who was a fan of Pippa before she offended him and he turned into her biggest anti. The guy is actually crazy. Heard that he's moved on to harass some other vtuber since then.

>>65911286
what about Shiina then?, is she the exception?, she seems pretty pro-parasocial to me.

>>65911261
lumi, lia, tenma, and shiina are all 4views now numberfag

>>65911286
Who is Shiina. Who is Airi. Who is Dizzy. Who is Panko. Who is Wemi. Who is sometimes "unironically not a virgin" Pippa.

>>65911261
Phase vs. their top competition for the month of December

>>65911374
She's literally openly in a relationship

>>65911261
Tenma, Lia, Shiina, and now Eimi and Muyu are fairly constantly 4views now.

>>65911261
One of the 3gens was 4viewing yesterday.

>>65911286
they do not do that first thing at all
>try to milk lonely people
they do this

>>65911231
Most sane Erina fan

>>65911156
On top of what everyone else is saying, he also went across multiple sites like vt and Kiwi larping as Count Frollo acting like Pippa was his Esmerelda.
Looking back? Honestly pretty entertaining.

>>65911286
>they don't do GFE
bito 4lyfe

>>65911465
>>65911475
>including Gen3s
you wont know what they really are until February. It's been 2 weeks. They are riding the debut buff wave.

>>65911286
Wemi and Erina are extremely parasocial and do the GFE thing pretty regularly.

>>65911461
well thanks for the info good stranger, there she goes, not gonna anti since she's super kind but at the same time that repels me a 100%

>>65911582
Is this a bit? Are there actually people unaware of the wontons?

>>65911554
Muyu will be a 4view. She is in a perfect spot. I don't think the other 4 will be when things normalize.

>>65911554
I counted them because there viewer numbers already seem to be stabilizing and even growing after the initial big dropoff from debut.

>>65911582
hooo boy. Read >>65909007

>>65911741
it takes way longer than 2 weeks for numbers to stabilize. Come back to me February.
Look at Idol >>65911459 their Gen2's were 4view the first month, then high 3 view the next month, then settled in at mid 3view.

>>65905910
Oh, so it's Runie

>>65911512
I'm being serious. Nasa's blanket came in 5 months but I still haven't gotten Erina's Valentine's Day standee. How else do you explain this?

>>65909819
He said they were in black in the first interview with Dizzy. That was in the first year. He also said he invests earning back into the content. Lot of people talk about how lucky he was, but that whole interview is proof he knows how to effectively handle money and maintain positive relations.

>>65911823
On the same note, Invaders 2 started on low 3view, and all 3 are mid-high 3view now. Trend says they'll be 4view by like June, if they don't fuck up.

Pippa and Tenma are great workhorse talents, and then they hired Lumi as well.

>>65912065
nta but invaders2 are very very very reliant on raids.
dizzy is pretty much a raid dumpster for shiina, muyu, and lia. if raids didn't exist, dizzy would be bottom 5.

>>65912234
Dizzy is still somehow in the top 5 super chatted in Phase, so I think she'd be doing fine even without raids.

>>65912234
Nah. Lovebug here, she's a constant 400-500. Even the raids leave her at 600-700 avg. She's entertaining, and if you have a mean streak, the bullying is great.

>>65909138
Share the knowledge with us anon. knowing Uruka it might not even that bad, maybe something cursed rather than yab I'd assume

>>65911775
Ok thanks again, as i said no anti'ing just simply blocking, removing oshi mark and blacklisting her art tag, well Remi and Panko are still alright....

>>65908515
I remember seeing the melt down happen live, ended up watching the rest of the stream. Never laughed so hard in my life.

>>65912302
she's unpopular (and sucks) but she has a strong appeal to a certain type of devoted paypig
the mexican-looking girl in nijien is doing the same thing
seems unsustainable, but it's working so far

>>65912302
Dizzy and Airi are model babbies and are shameless masters at dono baiting.

>>65912603
well with one of the anons i just learned the wontons stuff was actually the same girl, what a shame but i have a conviction to always move on from chuubas who have a relationship so that's it.

>>65912608
Not really. She does have a couple of whales (Nez, Weevil, maybe a couple more), but she mainly only gets blues, greens and oranges. I don't think I've ever seen her get an aka, or even a $50.
What she does get from time to time, are bullying floods. $1-$5 floods, but it adds up.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jXrt4LABQfc
Pardon the clipniggerdly.

>>65912801
He means Lia.

>>65912879
i know i mean about that post of Sakana and idk which other girls discussing about the employment of Shiina.

>>65912815
>>65912608
Wrong link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jXrt4LABQfc

>>65899829
Muumi

>>65899829
>Can't numberfag on /#/ to not get their asses exposed for their bot usage.
>Numberfag on catalog instead.
Phasecucks trying to pull a Nijisanji by botting and astroturfing to simulate an incline. Subhuman behavior.

>>65912608
Not really. She does have a couple of whales (Nez, Weevil, maybe a couple more), but she mainly only gets blues, greens and oranges. I don't think I've ever seen her get an aka, or even a $50.
What she does get from time to time, are bullying floods. $1-$5 floods, but it adds up.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jXrt4LABQfc
Pardon the clipniggerdly.

Reposting because I mistakenly deleted the two other posts. The link was correct, but 4chanX was fucking up the title on my end.

>>65913106
the only one botting is panko
the rest have had natural incline.

>>65899829
Hire a psychologist that specialize in treting woman, also have entertaining talents and more freedom to do content.

>>65912608
Dizzy doesn't suck she just tells it how it is

>>65909007
Shiina's PL drama didn't matter because he primarily wanted her for cheap art labor.

>>65909349
The boys in Tsunderia didn't kill anything, the CEO being a lazy bastard and doing nothing while expecting everyone else to bend over was what killed them. She couldn't carry Tsunderia on her back forever

>>65906523
I don't think going for the
>Try to fuck up until it backfires(positively somehow)
might be the best strat

>>65913222
she does suck me

>>65913236
Shiina was supposed to be (and became) the ace of Gen2. She main evented her night of debuts.
The talent with the highest hopes goes on last

>>65912933
Alright, so here's the lore about that.
Dizzy used to be a Tsunderia manager, and she also helped Sakana run some things because they live in the same city, and they became friends. The IRL shit we have of her comes from her helping out at cons.
When gen 2 was being hired, it looks like Sakana had Dizzy help with the vetting process. And she was against hiring Shiina for the reasons you know. But Sakana hired her anyway.
Later, after Tsunderia's implosion, Dizzy asked Sakana to nepohire her, and he complied. But he gets free manual labor from it too, so that's good.
Oh, also, according to Sakana, Dizzy is gross.

>>65913309
ew

>>65913417
gross, fat, sweaty big tits...

>>65913531
imagine the smell

>>65913531
Asian too. Canadian chink, but hey.
>>65913609
Have you ever smelled a filthy fujoshi? Like that.

>>65913609
imagine the taste

>>65912065
every member of gen3 should never be a 3view. 4view is all they should ever know.
you don't spend 6 figures to get 3views.

>>65911918
Runie is killing, what the hell do you mean?

>>65913736
she was a 3view last night

cute

>>65913786
Last night was a hard one for the competition. Pippa was doing Touhou. Hime was doing karaoke.

>>65912423
she was having internet issues all night and at one point when the stream came back on her university web portal was on screen then it happened again with that screenshot.

>>65913736
Runie is already dipping to 3view. This is without Lumi & Shiina back.

>>65913861
>Hime
>competition
it is over for Runie already if you have to say Hime is competition

>>65899829

>>65912608
Not really. She does have a couple of whales (Nez, Weevil, maybe a couple more), but she mainly only gets blues, greens and oranges. I don't think I've ever seen her get an aka, or even a $50.
What she does get from time to time, are bullying floods. $1-$5 floods, but it adds up.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kDt1iaH2vwo
Pardon the clipniggerdly. And the constant reposting. Fuck my life, the link was wrong all along. But yeah, she's had a bunch of bullying floods like this one. Easily a couple times a month.

>>65913938
Runie still hits 4 view on her own. Saya barely breaks 700

>>65914037
this is the 3rd time you have made this post and deleted it.
are Dizzy fans all terribly brown?

>>65913938
Hime was doing like 700 when I went to bed. Karaoke is one hell of a boost.

>>65914037
She also gets some money from the company for work she does behind the scenes.

>>65913938
>This is without Lumi & Shiina back.
Lumi has been back since last week wtf are you even talking about SEAmonkey?

>>65914079
>Runie still hits 4 view on her own.
she has yet to have a night of normal scheduling. The normal schedule will be Runie, Shiina, Lumi, Lia and Dizzy overlapping at about the same time

>>65914155
Raid

>>65914084
Terribly drunk. And it was the fourth time actually.
That said, she does get a fuckton of strange currency superchats, so yeah, looks like Dizzy has a buncha brown fans.

>>65911653
well >>65912474
as i said in another reply atleast there's still Panko and Remi.

>>65914155
i know you're likely a new phase fan who came aboard with gen3 so you probably dont know this, but rie is the biggest en straggler of phase connect.
im with the other anon: if you are saying rie is competition, that is pretty god damned grim.

>>65914376
Reminder that Remi is the only member that outright scares Sakana.

>>65914180
Yeah, manual labor in the warehouse, her payment food.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cvKyZyfh8J8

>>65914398
>but rie is the biggest en straggler of phase connect
It’s actually been Wemi for probably the last 6 months newfag

>>65900589
basically this

Phase fills the niche of being the pickme company with a little gfe thrown in to spice it up. They are edgy enough to stand out but not too edgy to avoid cultivating an audience.

>>65914468
so he's scared of the only straight up gfe loli chuuba?

>>65914468
Nah it's Tenma, his oh no when she got mad because he said she was the perfect idol if only she kept her mouth shout (a correct statement) was genuine.

>>65914488
Remilia streams in a death timeslot with no help. Every viewer she has is all hers.
Hime gets raids.

>>65914488
Remi and Jelly suffer from the SEA hours debuff, Rei often streams during EN primetime.

>>65914398
I'm just not a /pcg/fag. But I knew of Pippa back when gen2 hadn't debuted because of the shilling here, her collab with the bear, and her IBS ties.
I'm just saying, I watch Rie whenever she's doing karaoke, and for those, she always has high 3views. Which is a feat considering she clashes with Pippa's slot. I think she even reached 3k ccv with her skibbidy toilet karaoke.

>>65914530
nta, idk i like tenma when she's calm, but at the same time i don't want man ass in my tl, i hate bara shit.

>>65913656
>>65913661
I can only get so erect

>>65914530
With Tenma it's the fear of a verbal beating. With Wemi its the fear that one day you're going to come home to fimd that she's broken into your house and you can't leave until you've eaten all her black chicken soup made in an electric kettle.

>>65914646
last I checked Himemiya Rie got 10k with a karaoke and is getting her gold playbutton delivered next week

>>65913846
The week that followed was spectacular. The sheer amount of damage control and tard wrangling should have warranted her twitter account be taken from her.

>>65899829
holo council

>>65914936
I mean, she's ascending.
https://socialblade.com/youtube/c/himemiyarie/monthly

>>65914577
I think you seriously overestimate how many raids Hime gets in her normal timeslot.
Lia, Shiina, Dizzy and Runie all end too early.
Airi, Eimi and Pippa overlap her.
She doesn’t get raids from Pippa because she told Pippa to stop raiding her and Airi and Eimi both stream longer than Hime on average.
Hime gets a few raids from outside of Phase semi regularly but usually from other very low 3 views or 2 view small corpo chuubas that she’s networked with.

>>65899829
Good Opsec. It’s not going to last forever though. You wouldn’t hear nearly as much about Nijisanji if their gachikoi moderated all the big drama sites. However, the bigger they get the more eyes are going to be on them. Can’t hide forever.

>>65914973
Didn't she also imply that she's gay irl, as damage control, as well?

>>65915252
Rie got raided yesterday bozo

Phase Connect is hot right now. It won't last forever, so just enjoy it while you can and hope when the wave stops things don't go back to 300ccv being considered good

>>65915843
What phase really needs is to get a solid foothold in Japan.

>>65914577
the phase raid cycle is this (incomplete if
>Jelly into Remi
>Remi into Panko
>Panko into Ember
>Tenma into Shiina when on YT
>Ember into Shiina, Runie or Lia
>Muyu into Ember or Dizzy
>Shiina into Dizzy
>Lia into Dizzy
>Runie into Airi, Uruka, Eimi, or Hime
>Dizzy into Airi, Uruka, Eimi, or Hime
>Pippa into Airi, Uruka, Eimi, Erina or Hime

>>65915587
Something to that effect, yes. It was a good time to be a (You) farmer.

>>65900515
>They essentially found a mini Holo with Pippa
edgy content and reacts to videos. the bar has been set low if that qualifies her as a mini holo

>>65916586
he probably meant just on numbers

"Holo but more lax / unhinged / for contrarians" was NijiEN's position for a while and phase has started to take that role from them

>>65899829
Never forget phasecucks.

https://files.catbox.moe/fhwjok.mp4

>>65917048
Doing god's work.

>>65917048
so not wanting to see a chuuba flirt with random guys is wanting them to suffer, lmao.

>>65915843
yeah pretty much. as a unit phase are the strongest small corpo ever atm, but who knows what things look like when the ride ends.

>>65916936
NijiEN fucking blew it with gens after Lazusydia. Can't watch a single girl in peace without some leeching ass dude calling in or a 20 person collab that's impossible to follow.

>>65915843
>hope when the wave stops things don't go back to 300ccv being considered good
I would give anything to have 300ccv Pippa again :(

Why do people still go on about shinna being in a relationship?
She is in her 30s, and lives in a tiny room with her sister. She certainly has been in some but I can not see it as a chubber

Also he made good hires. Some girls are dull all can't play games but they get along well and he has told buissness ethics just shit merch, and doesn't pander to weddit

>>65917350
>Why do people still go on about shinna being in a relationship?
Because she literally mentioned her boyfriend?

Jamie pull up the Pippa x Camelot x Colress yab

>>65917261
Exactly. I have really good memories of those first gens, then everything went downhill.

>>65917514
qrd?

>>65917514
Funny how it was Tenma who shot down both Lia's and Pippa's faggotry.

>>65913897
ok that pretty yab in a dox sense

>>65917514
???

>>65917514
funny how the kiwifags go quiet

>>65917302
I remember she would go through the entire chat list and read everyone's names before ending the stream.

>>65917456
nta, but if you believe her, she claims she broke up with him and moved back home for a while. Unless she has a new bf that she posted about; I don't follow any of her accounts.

>>65917667
Pippa collabbed with an irl youtuber named Camelot (retail storytime fag) to the distaste of her audience. Guy must have received some hate on twitter DMs, because a week or two later, he made a post claiming to "totally not have fucked Pippa" or something along those lines, with a picture of a girl (a much better looking one than Pippa) attached, fake doxxing her. Tenma shot it down.
She also had a much smaller yab with one of the VAs for Colress (her husbando) flirting with her on an unarchived twitch stream. iirc Tenma shot down that one too.

>>65917908
nta, does she actually claim to have broken up with him?, or still talks about a ´´someone´´ or anything in between those lines .

Why did Jannie delete the Lia and that random guy? It was embarrassing. But Lia is generally embarrassing. More embarrassing for the guy desu
>>65917514
This was just funny. She is a fucking autist. And got made fun of by the VA.
>>65914934
What the fuck is she studying even. Like how does she live?
>>65917934
What do you mean tenma shotdown. They hate eachother now since Pippa fags raid in and annoy her
>>65917456
As a yab in her past life, when she had a stalker.

"They hate each other" rrats are extremely popular and also literally never true. Curious.

>>65918243
>What do you mean tenma shotdown
She tweeted it was not acceptable, or something like that, which caused him to delete the tweet, and as far as I recall (it was like a year ago, so not sure though), she had agreed to collab with him too, but instead got him blacklisted from phase.

Kiss feet

>>65918470
they are always true

>>65918492
It will never stop being funny that Tenma is basically Phase's enforcer.

>>65918492
nta, i like her but as i said on another post the bara shit on twitter is a killer for me, i simply don' want man ass on my tl.

>>65918492
How can you shoot down a plane that already flew?
>>65918661
I have bad news for you but a lot of people watch her for motivation to lift. Finally got to 3 bars bench for fox

>>65899829
>What went right with Phase Connect that went wrong with literally every other small EN corpo ever?
What made them was hiring funny women who actually want to stream.
What SAVED them is that they moved beyond being Pippa and Friends. Being edgy and abrasive can only get you so far and attract an audience of thread readers rather than stream watchers.

>>65918767
>Finally got to 3 bars bench for fox
based

>>65918789
What's even edgy about Pippa? I checked a few of her streams lately and it's all vanilla stuff.

>>65918767
Good for them and wish them luck and good results, but i only want to see erotic girls art on my tl (from time to times she gets excellent erotic/hentai fanarts...) erotic loli-hag.

>>65918150
That's what she said. Again, whether you can trust her to tell the truth is a different story. This stuff got hashed out during gen 2 debuts.

>>65918661
Who asked?

>>65899829
>What went right
Remember when she cucked her fans?

>>65918789
You don't watch pippa. You saw a Walmart clip and heard an opinion that made you mad and wrote her off.
Most of the posters in this thread don't watch any phase talents but run their mouths like retards.
Best to keep it that way don't need any more subhumans greentexting in supas.

>>65906678
Cuz Lia's especially regarded, that's why

This thread is filled with SEA monkey shit. And then the most level headed /vt/ discussions.

I think we can agree
>Tenma good
>Sakana not a Jew but also autistic, and willing to compromise
>Yuri shitty situation
>Rest is RRATS

>>65899829
allied with the cyber mafia

>>65918866
>>65918956
I don't watch her because I hate anyone who reminds me of this kid, even if they have a cute anime girl avatar. Pippa is just a repulsive, caustic person and embodies the entire kiwifarms/I'm not like the other girls axis. She's a pathetic bully.
Most of the thread is just holobronies seething because they're the kind of subhuman who lives for Red vs Blue shit and uses this board as a proxy for console war faggotry.

>>65919095
>Dizzy is gross

>>65919095
>Flame Woman hungry

>>65903620
Fishman was saved by the managers he hired.

>none mentions how weird yori is regarding hands and hospitals
>>65919670
Nomie more like
>>65919633
Yes

>>65907015
>>65907335
what is the lia donothon yab? just that she had some faggot on stream and then said sorry and never did it again when she realized no one in her audience wants to see that shit? or was it worse than that? Because I think all make vtubers should be dragged behind a truck, but if that is literally all that happened we literally forgave Gura, Fauna and Mumei for the exact same thing and none of them even said sorry like Lia did

>>65921105
Lia. Autism.

I want to see what all the fuss about Lia is about. When is her next stream?

>>65921359
in 20 minutes

>>65921105
>just that she had some faggot on stream
at the tailend of a donathon where she promised asmr gfe
>>65921359
Her whole schtick is "chaotic autistic zoomer/alpha". Think discount Haachama but even more retarded. Rie does it much better.

>>65907026
I thinks is funny Dizzy skinwalks Ashelia's corpse sometimes

>>65906916
The Matsuri & Fubuki duo was really funny.

>>65921638
>Haachama but even more retarded
Sounds based. I will give her a look.

>>65921850
The "discount" in "discount Haachama" is a pretty prominent discount.

>>65922238
>brownfag tries to anti lia
>ends up getting lia a new viewer
KWAB

>>65922328
I mean, I was a liker before she became a cuckqueen, and would likely still be one. I'm just going /wsr/ here.

>>65921105
She couldn't see a red flag in the middle of a Chink military parade to save her life because of how retardedly autistic she is (she actually has the 'tism). That SEAnigger VA she had on stream was strait-up acting like a con-groomer and got blocked/blacklisted afterwards.

>>65917676
>>65917934
so by shot down you mean she told both males to feck off if they seem to get too close and perturb the balance of unicorn-ey viewer and chuuba?

>>65918956
>Best to keep it that way don't need any more subhumans greentexting in supas.
eimi please calm down...

>>65923044
Both the male and the vtuber. Or, neither, depending on how you see it.
She just tweeted or posted in chat that that shit wasn't acceptable, and banned the faggots.

>>65923315
you have confused me further,: neither? the vtuber? (who?)

>>65923591
https://dictionary.cambridge.org/dictionary/english/neither

>>65899829
Kevin got lucky with hiring Pippa and she gave the company the momentum it needed through normalfag capture. Nothing more nothing less. Kevin owes everything to Pippa.

>>65923722
oh smell my friggin taint.

>>65921359
You enjoy ntr?

somehow they managed to hire the only funny woman in the industry hime

>>65923990
pippa was nothing without phase

>>65924963
And Kevin was nothing without Pippa

>>65909593
They were nice, but as luck would have it they debuted like a month before Luxiem and then nobody cared about them. They're still around as almost-but-not-quite-retired indies

>She was in Tsudneria at the time hiring male chuubas that helped kill the company
Anyone who unironically thinks that doesn't know shit about Tsunderia. For all we know, the company would've fallen apart even faster without them considering how Dizzy was calling them MVPs behind the scenes

>>65925755
>Tsunderia failed because of management
>She was part of said management
>"Its not her fault"

>>65925755
forgot to link >>65909349

>>65925837
Yeah, because she was the only one who actually did shit. In the words of Ember, "management was Urara, Urara did everything". And thus, after she left, it collapsed.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3klEWdBk1jU

Grossy Porkuro live now if anyone wants to puke.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3jpP_gOevUQ