/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

>>6582400

>>6582558
C and I'm bringing a camera!

>>6582400
Honeymoon phase is over?
Find a different hobby, anon.

>I know that this world is a cruel, capitalist shithole, but I really want to believe that we mean something more to our oshis than just smelly ATMs.
> Help me destroy this last bit of hope and optimism, anons.

>>6582400
Die nigger

>>6582400
who fucking cares

>>6582400
thanks for buying their boyfriends' condoms, anon.

>>6582400
>I know that this world is a cruel, capitalist shithole
Are you 15?

>>6582400
Do you complain when a prostitute fakes an orgasm? No? Then shut the fuck up and enjoy vtubers thanking you for the aka and saying how much your support means to them.

>>6582558
b

>>6582400
I don't remember watching youtube streams cost you money.

>>6582400
Dilate
Capitalism is based

>>6582902
Prostitues are a meme anyway. You end up actually going to one, expecting a model or at least a hot women and you end up with below average women with bad boob surgery, the cashier at the local gas station looks better than her. Movies lied anon 9/10 a hooker is not average pretty.

>>6582830
>>6583065
cringe and bluepilled

>>>6582830
> >>6583065
> cringe and bluepilled

>>6583234
Blaming everything on capitalism in a brainlet take.

>>6582400
Spend time interacting with real women. There's a lot you don't seem to understand.

>>6582400
It's all fake, they don't love you, it's all escapism, blah blah blah. Who cares if it makes you feel better. But do you want an actual redpill? Your oshi will graduate one day and there is nothing you will be able to do about it. Think about what this will do to you. Treat them as entertainment and keep your distance.

>>6583266
no your wrong and your mom likes black guys

>>6582400
> Help me
Just walk up to a mirror and ask yourself, would (you) care about someone like this, or would you just want their money and them to disappear asap? If this doesn't convince you, nothing will, you're already a delusional drone.

>>6583419
My mom is racist and doesn't like black people, but my family isn't white so we get a pass on it.

>>6583527
>My mom is racist and doesn't like black people
this is how you know she REALLY likes black people
racist is the ultimate cope

>>6583261
>national socialist
>capitalist
retardbro...

>>6583659
We arent white anon, like she is actually racist. Black fetishism is a white and european phenomenon.

>>6583720
wypipo.......

>>6582400
So does psychotherapist .

>>6583720
Most people around the world dont like blacks, especially black men. The spread of african american culture is mainly because of white US culture which seems obsessed with black people.

>>6583720
>>6583527
Nah your mom definitely likes black cock.

>>6583146
try not being poor next time

>>6582400
Somebody just read their first Kagura Mea copypasta didn't they?

>>6582400
I don't really see the point in being this cynical. If you've worked any customer-facing job and earnestly tried to enjoy it you would know how good it feels to make someone's day a little easier, even through frivolous service or entertainment. They probably get a lot of validation from their fans and are happy to pay that back in kind. Of course money is the top priority for them; it's a job. But I doubt they would keep at these kinds of jobs for as long as they had if they really cared so little for their audiences.

>>6582400
I haven't spent a dime on vtubers. It's literally free entertainment. If you think it's something more, then take your meds.

>>6582400
Imagine how you would feel about your fans if you had them.
there is probably at least 1 vtuber who would feel that way, and others who would feel differently.

and how would you view your fanbase if you had one anon? would you see them as exclusively a source of income?

>>6583492
I totally understand why no woman loves me. If I was a woman I'd spit on every bakd man I encountered for being a genetic dead end.

>>6582692
I wonder what goes through the mind of a basedjak poster

>>6583261
What are you a commie? I'm already laughing at you, but I would like to know the degree to which I should laugh.

>>6584706
That's a really long-winded way of saying you hate yourself for practically no good reason, anon

>>6583670
You really are a dumb american fuck

>>6582400
Yes, your oshi needs you, even more, the community needs you if you can create any content.
But if the most you can do is throw money at a screen, well, I don't know, that's not how life works, bro.

>>6584706
then there's your fucking answer. keep in mind that a significant portion of viewers are even more repulsive than you are.

>>6584302
>If you've worked any customer-facing job and earnestly tried to enjoy it you would know how good it feels to make someone's day a little easier
I've been doing this for... basically my entire working life and I've come to lose all hope for humanity. I don't mind being fired, I even told management that. Now the only joy I find in work is looking for little things I can do to piss off customers without outright being confrontational and making things look like it's their fault when I did them intentionally.

>>6584936
>that's not how life works
it is exactly how life works, consoomers are worthless apart from their wallets.

It depends on the chuuba. Some care more than money. But everybody's gotta eat, anon.

>>6585176
Forgive me for making assumptions here but I don’t get the impression you’ve really tried in earnest. That sounds like a pretty miserable way to live, anon. I hope for your sake you’ve at least got a happy life outside of work or good work friendships.

>>6585613
I probably haven't. I'm quitting and going to school next semester anyway and won't need to work for the next couple years. When I have a career in a field I'm actually interested in maybe things will be better.

>>6582400
mfw ive never spent a single dime on FREE entertainment

>>6583862
lmao kill yourself nigger, nobody likes shitskin.

>>6585828
This is what being in BBC denial looks like.

>>6585828
Cope suburbanite

>>6585849
>>6585856
Keep seething nigger, no matter how hard you try you'll always look like a walking turd LOL.

>>6585878
I'm white as a cloud and couldn't be more ashamed of it with people like you around.

>>6585949
Turd boy LOLOLOLOL.

>>6585750
Not everyone can work in customer-facing jobs and thats fine, Im sure things will get better when you find work that you atleast somewhat enjoy, gl anon

>>6584302
I worked customer service for more than a few years, this anon is right when it comes to regulars Making things easier and pleasant for both parties is a solid feeling even if it is all business, i imagine this might be how a Holo feels with Members of if they notice even long time greynames.
>>6585176
>>6585750
Then theres this anon, working service I did gain his disdain for general consumer wave customers who seemed to just come and go with whatever the hot thing that was happening was taking place, while id accommodate them as its my job my patience was far lower with these ones.

it's really fucking obvious which ones are doing it for money and which ones are streaming 9+ hours a day with no extra benefits to it.

>>6585253
You’re carrying a whole lot of water for the almighty dollar when you say stuff like this.

This thread is now a friend thread, kys if you dunot post friend

>>6582400
Lamy loves me.....

Imagine spending money on free entertainment.

Imagine spending money.

>>6586749
what do you want me to say? It's the state-enforced religion

>>6586266
you're probably talking about two different tiers of customer service, working in some high end/hobby sales where the cashier has value to the business is different from being a wal mart peasant getting bitched at at by both your manager and every retarded customer all day

>>6585964
>>6585878
>not white
>calls anyone turd boy
you want to be white so bad

>muh capitalism
No one is your slave, faggot, people always do stuff waiting something in exchange, if it was not profitable people would not do it or only do it as a hobby in a very safe economic eviroment
Your "oshi" does not even know you exist, grow up, faggot, learn to enjoy enterteinment without taking it personal

>>6582400
I mean, unless the fame had gotten completely to your head, if you were in the same position as them, wouldn't you be feeling a little humble and grateful?

>>6582558
I hate and love this rrat at the same time

>>6588460
These are women anon.
Don't think of them as people.

>>6583146
That's the poor miserable ones with no choice but to cheaply sell their bodies. The pretty ones are part of a business and practically bred for that purpose.

>>6583659
>>6583862
The ultimate retard take

>>6584761
Bald people are ugly, there is no helping it. Why wouldn't I hate myself for being ugly?

>>6585750
>When I have a career in a field I'm actually interested in maybe things will be better.
It won't. Trust me I tried.

>>6588520
>misogyny
yikes

>>6588668
Bald people aren't ugly, you just hate yourself because you don't deal with rejection well and you've resigned yourself to a life free of any effort towards serious introspection or self-improvement.

I can get falling for a cute anime girl that is actually a real person. But do schizos actually expect some kind of feelings from the girl?

>>6582400
Nobody in this world cares for you, nobody cares about anyone but themselves, at the of the day, it's all about money. Your friends and family would gladly sell you out for the right price, same with the women pretending to be anime characters, no matter how much money you send them to the point where they recognize you and give you special attention.

>>6589231
>Bald people aren't ugly
>t. ugly chromedome

>>6582400
I'm always thinking the exact thing as that pic everytime I want to donate them. And then tommorow I'm glad that I never spent a single penny for them.

>>6589363
Ironically I actually have long, thick hair. I must not understand the bald struggle.

>>6588668
You fell for memes from equally confused people. It's just an example of a handy excuse to look for to blame all your troubles on. The world is a complex machine and stupid hairless ape brains will never understand it truly. To assume you know for certain that you are ugly is the height of hubris. You have a chance, as does anyone else. Tell the voices to fuck off.

>>6582400
"Thank you Kaichou for changing my life! Here's my money as my way of saying thank you and to support you more!"

Proceeds to buy an unnecessarily expensive bed and suddenly graduate.

>>6587906
nah i worked a rather low job but not quite walmart low i did my best to avoid walmart, that shit isnt customer service i dont know what you'd call that type of job.

>>6589526
American whores are not pure like Japato Nadeshiko.

>>6589526
Pretty sure she said she'd spend all the money she received on a new bed, when she mentioned she slept poorly because of her previous bad, and everyone went super overboard with the donations. She had no choice but to go through with what she said and spend it all on the bed.

>>6589526
I see no problem with thanking someone for changing your life. Nor with them spending the money however they see fit. The graduation part sucks tho.

>>6583146
This is not true. I've fucked several prostitutes for around $500-600 each and they all looked good, were fit, clean and for the time being treated me like if I was their BF.

>>6589936
How much to have sex with Kiara's roomate?

>>6582400
>I know that this world is a cruel, capitalist shithole
Of course they see you as money and numbers, you big gay idiot.

>>6590114
Are you black? If you're black, neither want anything from you.

>>6590114
How many alts subbed to her can you make?

>>6590114
1000 views of sparks or whatever the newest single is at the time, paid upfront

>>6582400
OP, you have to be above 18 to even access this site.

>>6582400
Do your reps bro and see the soul rushing reality
ame and neet
nagumin, ina and minsgraph
1609326795802.jpg

>>6582400
Some of them are in for the money, others are autistic enough to become attached to their characters and fanbases

>>6582558
B. This bitch wants to get cocky, then I’m gonna make her work for her money.

>>6591226
Yeah but you’re still a walking ATM to them and the company they work for!

>>6583146
Cheap hookers are usually ugly. You might get lucky occasionally and find a hot one for cheap who's fresh off the boat from whatever slavic shithole she's coming from and doesn't yet realize her worth, but those are pretty rare.

Look at her and ask yourself why she joined Hololive

>>6592223
money?

>>6592223
she was lonely, drunk and tired of being a neet

>>6582400
Capitalism is the only reason we have full time vtubers. There's no way the state is going to pay for it.

They see you as easy money. If the ears money stopped they'd be forced to get money else where to get money to live.

I wouldn't be surprised if money wasn't an issue that they'd still stream just due to the sort of attention they garner.

>>6584302
People underestimate the grind it takes to get to vtubing too. Yes Hololive descend from the heavens, bestow a model on you and you get hundreds of thousands of subs, but they aren't picking some newbie with no experience to fill those shoes. Pretty much everyone on the gravy train right now at some point streamed or produced content to their own audience that they build from the ground up in the past, and you can't sustain that as some sort of sociopathic attempt at a lottery ticket to stardom, you have to enjoy it.

Amelia is the only Holo girl that keeps superchat off most of the time.
And when she turns them on, she makes sure to read every single one.
Here's some recent streams where they had superchat off 100% of the time. Sometimes she turns them on for 10 minutes.
You can say everything you want, "she doesn't do it because she's lazy", or whatever, but this is ultimate proof she's not in it only for the money.

>>6593844
She was a poorfag for a long time, she probably feels bad about having superchat on all the time since she already makes 12K+ USD with memberships alone.

>>6584302
Customer facing jobs is 99% dealing with utter scum of the earth that really should be shot for the betterment of society and 1% making a little old ladies life a little easier by going the extra mile.
Today I had to smile and look a junkie in the eye while she spent 15 minutes complaining that her ice cream was a little soft when it was 34C outside the store and 39C inside. I was very, very close to stabbing her with my box opener and just accepting the jail time.

>>6593844
kiara literally had a 12h superchat stream and she actually talks to them, so yeah while she is 100% for the money at least she gives the gfe retards want.

>>6585750
I left a field I thought I would really enjoy after being in there for 8 months after 4 years in college because it was nothing like I expected (wages were half what I was promised, co-workers were all jaded arseholes, work was 10% what I expected and 90% tedious paperwork because "safety") and I now work at a supermarket driving a van.
It's not a better job but the wage is about the same and I only have to deal with one junkie at a time and not whole swarms of them

>>6592223
Because Hololive allows Gura to fulfill her extremely specific dream of making money while being naked from the waist down without any sex work involved?

>>6589595
>i dont know what you'd call that type of job.
I call it "it's better money than unemployment benefits but I'm not sure it's worth having to deal with these heroin addicts all day"
t. Asda employee (UK branch of Wal-Mart)

>>6593844
This is why Ame is my oshi. She's extremely aware that there's going to be obsessed retards that will throw all their wages at her and is stopping them self harming.

>>6594180
All that does is make them donate more during the times when it's on.

>>6594076
I mean its not like Ame doesn't talk to her fanbase. In terms of fanbase interaction in HoloEN it goes like this:
Kiara: Insane amount of zatsudan and superchat reading, sometimes too much, a lot of twitter interaction
Ame: reads every single SC and talks to chat after SC is done, with SC off and answering questions from chat. Twitter interaction and frequent members community posts.
Gura: Pretty much no interaction outside streams, superchat reading is 50/50, sometimes she reads all of them, sometimes she completely skips SC reading
Mori: Tweets a few times, never interacts outside of streams besides that. Mostly only reads bigger SCs but still has frequent SC readings due to the sheer amount she gets
Ina: Some twitter interaction, some members posts on her days off, kinda rare. Gacha superchat

>>6594245
Not at all, she conditioned people not to donate to her. If you check playboard, you'll she people are now SCing her less and less when its on now that SC is mostly off

>>6582400
Some vtubers definitely have some genuine attachment to their fanbase as a whole if not individuals. for example Pekora clearly enjoys streaming and performing for her fans to the point if you offered her the same money for like an office job or her current job but making 1/10 as much she would probably choose the latter.
Even if we're being a cynical as possible keep in mind that while money is nice women crave attention and validation just as much.

>>6594245
Doesn't work that way, people just think "well if her SC is off most of the time, she probably doesn't want/need them", so you only see $5 donations most of the time since she'll give the same attention if its $5 or $500

>>6582400
If you have any amount of emotional awareness, you can tell when a chooba enjoys what he or she is doing. If the creator enjoys what they're doing and you enjoy the content they create, then there is nothing wrong with supporting the content you enjoy.

>>6590114
Someone famous like her, easily 5000+ hour , maybe more.

>>6589936
>500-600
Anon thats a lot to flop on top of a girl fro 5 minutes.

>>6590114
One hour sessions at a back street soapland are usually 8,000 JPY (a little under $75)

They're all just virtual ewhores, just don't think about it to hard.

>>6594444
If they're whores, they're probably the safest, happiest ones on earth. No physical contact or obligation to actually show themselves to you and no sex work? Good for them.

>>6594406
at lot of whores do 15 minute slots at a fairly reduced rate. last one I fucked was £40 but she wasn't the greatest, I'd say spent at least £100

>>6594180
>stopping retards from self harming
I like Ame but I wish she wouldn't get in the way of natural selection like this

>>6594535
she's the only one playing it smart, miss a SC from the wrong schizo and it's kyoani time

>>6594276
>>6594315
They're not the ones who are obsessed/donate too much in the first place. You don't seem to understand gachikoi.

>>6594634
now imagine the same retard simping £100 every stream, perhaps multiple times per stream

>>6589936
based kfp

>>6593497
a democratic state would pay for whatever the voters want.

>>6589936
>$500-600 each
yikes most I ever paid was ~$300 for a model tier polish girl in Italy but then again I don't monger at home. In Mexico you can reliably get very attractive light skinned girls for under $100.

>>6582400
You underestimate how mentally ill and addicted to positive attention the Holos are, anon. VTubers who only care about money don't spend hours a day searching about themselves on Twitter.

>>6582400
Miko loves me and you'll never drive a wedge between us.

>>6594406
>>6594534
>5-15 minutes
WHAT A RIP-OFF
>>6583720
>Black fetishism is a white and european phenomenon.
Oh, so you get it.
>>6583861
>Most people around the world dont like blacks, especially black men.
They can stop ripping off our culture whenever they're ready.

>>6582400
>cruel, capitalist shithole
ogey commie

Isn't she even more of a whore if she genuinely likes you after you literally throw money at her? What is wrong with them just being glad that you're giving them money in exchange for the entertainment?

I struggle to understand how I can at the same time be fully gachikoi for my oshi, and genuinely love her in a parasocial way, but also not be under any dellusions about buying my way into her close circle or whatever. When I send money, I just want to support them with money. I don't think it's an absurd thing to pay for your entertainment, so when I get this much for free, I don't mind giving some money back, and then getting even more in return in the case of membership and paid concerts. The only superchats I sent that I saw getting read were the ones where they noticed it on the spot, I don't give a shit about hearing my name said out loud by them like timestampchamas, I don't stick around for SC reading most of the time.

>>6582400
Its like a subscription service, you like thing so you pay to keep receiving it.

>>6600556
>buying my way into her close circle or whatever
You will never be more than a paypig.