/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

>>65762003
GO PIPPA GO!!!!

>>65762003
Why is Gura not in there?

>>65762003
Do your best, menhera rabbit-chan!

>>65762003
Where is Gooba? I thought she was the most popular EN vtuber...

kiara... kfp bros we need to help, her numbers are worse than an ID

>>65762113
>>65762278
Who's that? This is a list of streamers, not mascots.

I wish people would actually give Kiara a chance instead of dismissing her just because of what others say

I think most people would like her if they watch her streams

>>65762601
nah

I can't believe it's over for Kiara...

>>65762601
SHE IS A FUCKING NAZI ANON. THEY TRIED TO EXTERMINATE AN ENTIRE RACE. WHY THE FUCK WOULD ANYONE SUPPORT GERMANS OR AUSTRIANS

>>65762601
im sure i would of she streamed in my timezone

Who the fuck is Dacapo?

>>65762286
Good thing Kiara and Kobo get along otherwise this could get ugly

>>65762803
Thai

>>65762761
>SHE IS A FUCKING NAZI ANON
>implying this is a bad thing

>>65762003
Just calculated Mori's median without collabs and openvc. Its 5221. Kek

>>65762771
Yeah same here. I was her fan when she started because the jp timezone is good for me. I still like her but I can't bend my life around watching her.

>>65763000
Collabs are a pretty fair and normal way to drive views. You have to be somewhat likeable or nobody would join.

>>65762601
watching one kiara stream is all you need to never watch another one again

>>65762003
How do we save nijien?

>>65762113
Who? This is a list of streamers, anon.

>>65762003
Pippa has good ccv but kiara has better vod views. Pippa like asmongold has a small but dedicated audience with most being edgy americans. If any holo did react streams like with what pippa does they would blow her out of the water.

>>65762761
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Klara_Hitler
She's literally hitler

>>65762803
The one homo thai that did the bang covered eye reveal on a con he didn't even get paid (he joined to get their local company exposure) for where westoid tiktokers spun it into something that the guy had 300$ ticket for entry when the con ticket itself isn't even worth 3$ or something

>>65762901
not gonna lie, I like this Kiara most.
Nazi aesthetics are timelessly cool and should be banned forever.

>>65764313
Oh yeah, that story. I really hated westoids for that, I don't understand why they had to shit on people having fun and why they made up stuff just to get angry.

>>65764113
>react streams
subhuman content for subhumans

>>65762003
>nijien beaten by pippa
Fucking embarrassing.

>>65765012
Pippa isn't the whole company. The average brings phase down and Nijisanji up

>>65765051
>>65765012
It's how it works in small corpos, you have a big dog and a bunch of smaller ones. It just happens that phase grew so much their competition (namely idol) no longer is their competition, and their big dog is a very big dog.

>>65765159
I guess that's one way to look at it

>>65762003
Kunai jesus christ it wasnt even long since you debuted

>>65765211
She reminded sisters of Fox Mom therefore she was never given a chance

>>65764367
>shit on people having fun and why they made up stuff just to get angry
kinda ironic to be saying this on /vt/. But anyway yeah, genuinely fuck those normie westoids

>>65765211
Eh, there are 4 nijis worse than her.

>>65765336
Aia and Aster are literally lost causes and Hana is ID so...

>>65765336
But she's literally new blood and you're really comparing former-ID corpses to her?

>>65762003

>>65765426
More seriously: her design is amazing but it doesn't look that good moving. Like, compare her and aura (whom I am not a fan of, just to make this clear) here. Aura is a lot more expressive, and she's the meme mascot of the meme version of an already meme browser.
This is even more evident in older streams https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b90wIBECxn4 because of her arm is positioned, unless she hides it by lowering herself she looks weird and static.

Also, I remember a rrat where, since she was named after a weapon she got screwed by the algorithm .

>>65765709
I forgot the stream with Aura https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M0MlTz0HSWo

>>65763011
same here, i used to watch her all the time during her jp season 1 arc

>>65762601
I tried to watch her with Ina/Shiori/Nerissa but I stopped because she was really annoying.

>>65762601
Her voice and personality filter me too hard. I can respect her, but that's not enough for me to watch streams.

>>65762003
Did Pippa have a subathon or something?

>>65765903
Phase is not Twitch or Idol. That's her numbers now.

>>65762113
The list only counts vtubers with at least 5 streams on that month.
Then again, Gura didn't stream at all that month, so she couldn't be in even without that requirement.

>>65762003
>Pipka is now more popular than everyone in NijiEN
Sad

>>65762003
Why is Vdere not on the list? Surely they all have >24 median peak and >5 streams per month

>>65766918
they aren't on any of the tracking websites

>>65767226
Could you give me a list of the tracking websites so I can send them a request?

>>65762601
Absolutely not. Awful personality and even worse voice. Plus she's afflicted with europeanism. I feel bad for her, but I won't watch her.

>>65767336
Just go to the containment thread where OP and his image came from anon, literally right here
>>65765153

>>65767449
I was trying to avoid it, but you're right, sorry

>>65767449
never was a containment thread
seethe about it

>>65767362
>europeanism
What does it mean...

>>65767470
It's new year's so I won't be harsh on you but I'm gonna say that you're already in a numberfagging thread anyways. Good luck in asking about them to be added, I heard numberfag site owners actually camped there though and the reason why some other groups are added is because they asked there

>>65762003
Biboo is actually doing pretty well for herself. Good job.

>>65762601
I have really tried but she streams really long times and her choice of games is not for me, but she's cute

>>65767449
It's interesting to talk about as long as it doesn't devolve into tribalfaggotry which is a line the containment thread has long crossed

>>65765317
Western normies aren't human man

>>65762003
Miload sure has fallen off kek

>>65764367
because some retard posted it on tiktok with the caption and didn't bother to translate the currency and everyone else ran with it

>>65762003
Pippa only had 7 streams? Lazy whore!!!

Phase has 10 vtubers over 1k. Not bad for a small corp. A real contender in the msking. I expect we'll see them slowly pass NijiEN over the course of the next year

>>65762003
Proud of my autist oshi.

>>65768085
They don't even need them to pass or get all over 1k. NijiEN will all eventually go down into 3views first instead

>>65768140
I don't watch her that much but I really like her with Biboo.

>>65768085
I say this as a Phasefag but this chart makes Phase look like it's doing a little better than it really is since it's using peaks which means the number gets inflated when a big talent raids a small one. That said the line is definitely going up. Passing Niji in terms of averages can definitely become a reality but that would be because of Niji declining which saddens me a little. Despite everything these are just people who wish to entertain after all.

>>65768150
>>65768085
Phase will never surpass nijien. They are punching above their weight as it is, Sakana just doesn't have the resources to compete with a huge corporation. Also, niji controls the male vtuber market.

>>65762601
If she toned down the voice and personality like with the vlogs on her other channel a few years back, I'd watch her. The way she is right now filters me hard

>>65768343
Once NijiEN's funds get cut off and they get absorbed into their JP branch, they definitely will. Anyone can do better than corpses and this is the future of NijiEN
>>65765416
>>65765426(me)

>>65768343
Sakana has run bigger companies. I'm sure he knows where to put the money to make more money appear.
>male vtuber market
I'm just not sure it's there in the west since western femcels watch Hasanabi and Kpop instead of vtubers.

>>65762003
>Ame is the top dog of Myth
It's actually fucking over. How the fuck she managed to beat out the ones that stream like Mori and Kiara is beyond me

>>65768337
1. Thats the same thing for HoloEN tho. Lots of raids going on, Fauna, Ina and Kiara are really the only ones who DONT get any. Meanwhile Bijou, Bae, Mori and IRyS get so many of them because they stream later.

2. Youtube changed something in their culling system that never affected Nijisanji. Verification was always so slow sometimes taking over 10 mins to even verify the people in the waiting room. Maybe Phase got a buff from that too.

3. THAT SAID, HoloEN 100% inclined from the shit show of last year where people were being forced feed the homostars.

>>65768649
only 5 streams tho. 2 of them were New Years Karaoke and Countdown.

>>65768343
Yeah, Phase isn't beating anyone any time soon. Can't even get nominated for best vtuber org like Idol did

>>65768542
>I'm just not sure it's there in the west
3 of top 5 nijis are men. The market is there, albeit smaller.

>>65768541
The only way that nijien funds get cut is if the jp sides decide that they don't like how the en side is run like a black company. So far, there are no signs of this.

>>65768337
As a holofag, since Advent, raids has been common for HoloEN. The culture started with homos and it seems like Advent unlike the previous gens got the message to always try to raid from now on. So I wouldn't count that one out and besides, NijiEN did it first from the big corpos anyways and without it, Phase could've been shitposted earlier to be on par with NijiEN

>>65768703
I don't think homos debuting had a larger impact than the slow starvation from lack of streams and gen 3. I know that the homos were likely the direct reason for gen 3 not existing for an entire year but in a hypothetical world where the homos debuted with gen 3 I think Phase and Idol would still be suffering from the same suffocation that killed Tsunderia and Cyberlive.

>>65768854
Thats true, when NijiEN was popping people would even shit post about Enna getting 4 raids every stream. NijiEN Started it 1st and shitposted their numbers the whole time. Phase and Holo fags have nothing to be ashamed off when using numbers agains nijifags

>>65768971
I just don't think median peak is a very useful metric

>>65768811
>Can't even get nominated for best vtuber org like Idol did
Come on we all know that phase purposefully moved itself to the rising vtuber org so that they could walk away with a guaranteed trophy.

>>65769040
Kek, didn't idol sponsor the fansly fillian vtuber award show?

>>65769136
It did?
Here https://thevtuberawards.com/winners I see a bunch of presented by phase connect but no idol.
Genuine question, I didn't watch the awards.

I never look at # thread so this was surprising.
Holostars are doing very well.
Newest NijiEN waves might be in some trouble if they want to do this as a job.

>>65769217
Thats the thing, HoloStars are doing good if seen separately from Hololive. The problem is Holostar fans always wanting to insert them into something thats MUCH bigger than them.

Its no different than some 2-3k ccv streamers having their fans constantly ask 15-30k streamers why they dont collab with their Fav streamer and to PLS collab with them. They would be laughed the fuck off of from the much more popular streamers fans.

>>65769400
Didn't that mostly stop when the w*men collabers graduated

>>65769040
So it was Sakana's master plan to make Phase look worse than the corpo that recently terminated a girl for fucking her manager

I just noticed how poorly Scarle is doing. Damn I kinda liked her when Nina was at niji.

Hmm would have expected Randon to be on the list since he streams frequently on Youtube and pulls in around 500

>>65769480
Yes. Mostly, except for Bae. JP on the other hand had more collabs with each other.

>>65762601
i think every girl is doing their best in their own way (maybe exception is gura), but the woman i felt filtered me hardest was mori. after the among us collab, i feel maybe shes not as bad as i had thought, and kiara is by far most filtering. i can't even place my finger on what exactly it was

>>65769136(me)
>>65769210
Me too and damn, I got them confused. So it's phase that sponsored them.
>>65769522
Big brain move if true

>>65769522
No, his masterplan was to pretend that phase is smaller than idol so that they could win an award and have a reason to celebrate considered they had no other nomination (barring Pippa in chaotic).

>>65769595
Bae likes them. It's not like she's making other girls collab with males just let her do what she wants.

>>65769217
>>65769400
>homos are doing well
lol, lmao

>>65769703
Oh and lowefforclips I guess.

>>65769720
No shit, I didn't say anything different from that. That person was asking "homocollabers" in general so it is still true that not all of them stopped. And I do know that Bae has made it clear from the get-go that she's a fan of stars and will collab with them since the beginning unlike those two.

>>65769703
I'm not going to indulge your schizophrenia but the biggest thing the award show did was give them a stage to advertise gen 3 which obviously worked out very well. I even thought the sponsorship was a little silly considering there was no way Phase wasn't winning rising.

>>65769703
>pretend that phase is smaller than idol
Kek. He didn't need to pretend, anon.

>>65762003
where vreverie and v-dere?

>>65769703
35,000 vtuber fans were exposed big time to Phase Connect and they were presented as a big deal.
It worked. They had 9 girls finish 4view for the month

>>65766918
Who?

>>65769953
https://v-dere.moe/

>>65762601
I wish people would actually give Niji a chance instead of dismissing them just because of what others say
I think most people would like Niji if they watch their streams

Kind of suprised Kronii is this high

>>65769881
The guy was talking about homobeggars who aren't even fans of the Stars they just directed their Western angst towards idol culture and wanted the "incels" to lose their entertainment.

>>65769935
He definitely did, Idol is Rin (carried by her shorts) and a merry band of literally whos compared to phase.

Just look at the chart, Rin would the 5th girl in phase and that's without counting the new girls

>>65770035
I missed >>65769840

>>65769881
How is schizophrenia when phase sponsored the events and were put in a locked award?

>>65770068
Not when the nominations dropped

>>65770068
b-but her sub numbers…

>>65770016
I watched and was member to Kotoka for a few months. I watched her turn from a shy and kind gamer girl into an unabashed whore and Luca's bitch.
That's not the "idol journey" I'm interested in. You can keep it.

>>65770068
And phasefags still lost despite that? This whole board was saying from the start that the awards were fan nominations and fan votes. But you're saying that the one exception is when Phase got btfo'd into the consolation prize category? Yeah, I'm thinking COPE.

>>65770016
People gave them a chance shithead, it's not outsider's fault your company destroyed their own rep be it the talents' fault or the company's (mostly the latter)

>>65770277
>And phasefags still lost despite that
They didn't, that's the whole point of dropping down. Rule in hell serve in heaven

>>65770277
Take your meds timeline hopper

>>65770161
I feel like your post really shows what went wrong for NijiEN. Hololive locking most western viewers' perception of vtuber into being idols and the Holo-rejects from the first few gens projecting a false image of what it would become. Nijisanji is not an idol company and both the fans expecting that and the livers trying to emulate that really hurt its long term growth after the Chinese market was severed.

>>65762601
ME ME ME personality

December 2023 might be the peak for Phase Connect. I mean fucking 9-10 girls 4view in a month. This time last year only Pippa was a 4view, and the next highest girl was Tenma at like 500-600.
>huge Gen3 debuts and raids
>had heavy Fillian shilling
>had big milestone streams for existing talents

Things WILL dip the next 2 months as Gen3 normalizes to whatever they are going to be.
If Phase could get a scheduler who understands the concept of min maxing raids and staggering start times, then that will help.

>>65770399
In part it's expectations set by hololive, in part is that men who like whores don't want to watch men. When you watch nijien you know that there is always the shadow of Luca and other men around, which is an annoying presence, even for someone who watch Yuzu and other indie whores.

>>65770451
>If Phase could get a scheduler who understands the concept of min maxing raids and staggering start times, then that will help.
kek
kek, even
We call it Overlap Connect for a reason. And most girls forget to enable raids from fellow talents for months on end.

>>65770495
Nijisanji's model is not whores. They're basically mainstream e-celebs a la Offline TV which was a space Nijisanji was able to occupy since Jap normies aren't so rejecting of anime stuff.

IMO Phase are botting certain girls.
For example: Tenma, Lia and Shiina have been slowly building all year to what they are.

However, Panko, Ember, Dizzy, Jelly were all at 300-400 ccv in October. Now they are 800,900 etc? How? Why?
Filian is not a special collab, she collabs with everybody. She does not turn mid 3views into 4views on a different platform. Make it make sense.

>>65770664
Did anybody else get a bump in CCV in recent months? I heard YT changed the way it counts CCV

>>65770664
Dizzy: she collects Lia and Shiina raids almost exclusively because they can't raid into Pippa. She is also going to collect Muyu raids when possible because they are BFFs.

Jelly: her average this month was carried by a Sakana interview that did like 2000-3000. Also had some late night streams where she collected raids.
Panko I can't explain it is sus. There is no viral content to explain it. Feels very inorganic.

>>65770721
there is a difference between a bump and an average doubling (some cases tripling).

>>65770662
I don't think offline-TV were ever that sexual pandering to each other like, Pokimane was the hot girl, the guys didn't flock to her nor were the guys harem Kings and shit. If anything, they're the group that fostered cheaters the most instead and showed what could be the problem of Niji if they outright showed all of that on-air, good thing they're only avatars and management keeps that shit locked so they vaguepost it forever instead

>>65770933
Lily and Michael are literally dating

>>65769527
Aren't Scarle and Aia actually the ones with the most loyal paypigs?

>>65771016
Wait for one of them to cheat and be kicked out of the friend group

>>65771093
It'd be really funny if Lily got cheated on twice in a row

>>65770664
there have been suspicions in /pcg/ that one of panko's brownoids is botting her.

>>65762003
Aren't more than 3/4th of Fuwamoco's streams botted?

Where's kirsche? She has numbers too.

>>65770021
She's always around there in months where she streams consistently. Her problem is the frequent small breaks every other month.

>>65772400
kirsche is on twitch with the twitch babbies

>>65770277
They don't want to admit they only won an award because they got grouped with actual literal whos. Hence why they think "we rigged the contest to get an award" is a win

These aren't "rookie of the year" awards.
Henya won top rising vtuber because she was, in fact, the top rising vtuber. She started the year as a low 4view and grew x5.
Same for Phase. Nobody grew more as an agency.
In January 2023
>1 playbutton
>1 4view
In December 2023
>4 playbuttons
>9 4views

>>65765903
Phase Connect this month was dominated by gen3 debuting. The only thing that could have helped Pippa was a general increased interest in the corpo from the debut hype, but I’m pretty sure most people not in gen3 experienced lower numbers because of the debuts.

>>65762601
Kiara just need do a SUISEI and drop the chikin/anime voice and use her normal voice.

>>65768085
I’m a phasefag too, but you don’t have to pretend that the gen3 girls’ current numbers are a true indicator of their popularity. They just debuted. Most likely most of them will settle into high 3view range (for now).
You can’t call gen3 “4views” yet. They literally have been around for less than three weeks.

>>65765903
>>65775038
Pippa was helped by the fact that she took a few weeks off, so the few streams she had, she had a lot of viewers eagerly awaiting for her return.

>>65762003
Why is Kronii popular didn't she insult her fans and stream with males and hate her model?!

>>65768085
Phase doesnt have brand lasting power. Hololive you will probably never see any drama from the girls besides gura not streaming or a graduation. Phase girls are surrounded by drama and its a trainwreck waiting to happen.

>>65770664
Pippas income would be able to pay for it for sure and we see with /#'s/ that youtube streams can be botted

>>65775147
Phase needs them to be 4views.
The pulled out all the stops and invested a lot of money into them. Guessing here, but very likely more money was spent on Gen3 than the 4 other Gens combined.

This isn't Gen1 that had a poverty budget and debuted to 600 people. Phase has to get returns on Gen3.

post the superchat earnings

>>65762601
Most people have watched her and decided they don't like her, that's why she has low views

>>65775333
if Gen3 all settle in as 3views, it will be a blow to Phase but not the end of the world. It just means the pressure goes back on Pippa & Gen1 to carry yet again.

>>65775205
She used to be the top dog right below Gura and Mori unironically.

I think its funny how Ame can fuck off for long periods of time but people will always watch her more than Kiara

>>65775333
how many people did phase gen3 debut to?

>>65762003
That's excluding bottled fwmc streams, right? Right?

>>65776238
*botted

>>65775333
4views would be nice, but Phase needs Gen3 to be big supa earners if they want to get investment back. I'd rather have them be 3views that make money vs. 4view that make meh money.

For example, who would you rather be from Origins
>(A)150k subs, 1000 to 1300 ccv, stream 30 hours a week, have made $80k in supas
>(B) 100k subs, 700 to 1000 ccv, stream 8 hours a week, have made $80k in supas

another comp, this time with 2 Phase Alias
>(A) 36k subs, 300-600 ccv, stream 10 hours a week, have made $50k in supas
>(B) 45k subs and growing, 700-1000 ccv, stream 15 hours a week, have made $21k in supas

>>65767637
She's a real gem and makes the most of her collabs without swearing

>>65776515
if the goal is to grow the company, then you want the highest ccv period. that is how you grow the business. more eyes = more chances for donos.
both A & B in your first scenario are cherry spots there is no wrong answer. i'm guessing this is tenma vs. lia.
second one, A is likely being carried hard by a couple giga whales and if they stop all of the sudden she is in trouble

>>65776238
haha no

>>65762003
>Phase beat Niji
AAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAAAAA
*breathes in*
HAAAAHAAHAHAHAAAHAAAAHAHAAAA

>>65775986
If Kiara streamed three times this month, one of them being her 3D delayed Bday Live, a karaoke, and a big collab, her median and mean would go up too.

Strong Reaper
Fauna is impressive as ever

>>65778732
Mori got raided to hell and back, she found a good timezone for her

>>65775986
Not streaming significantly increases your ccv for the first few streams but also significantly lowers your income.
Unless you're Gura, Ayame or shion whose fans shower them with an average yearly salary worth of money every time they come back.

>>65778940
Gura barely gets SC though
People are legitimately done with the shitty behavior
https://playboard.co/en/channel/UCoSrY_IQQVpmIRZ9Xf-y93g/videos

>>65778732
>Openvc and collab leeching
>Streaming during advent raid timeslot
Let's see how long.she can keep this up.

I pray for TND (Total Niji Death). Everything else is irrelevant to me.

>>65779066
>uhh it's not okay to do what others do because REASONS
Lmao SAD!

>>65762601
the split is dead and hlgg don't watch her

>>65765211
She went on a long ass vacation soon after debut and male Nijifans were obssesed with Vivi.

The rral question is whether she can compensate the deficit she created for herself.

>>65764113
she hasn't done react streams all month, hell since september she's avoided doing them and probably did 2 at most

>>65768343
Phase can compete with NIJIEN if Selen or Pomu leaves.

But is it really competing if you have count on the competition losing major talents?

>>65764113
React streams and drama is why Pippa has an audience. She first got noticed due to her butting into the drama between Ethan Ralph and Mr. Metakur. That is the kind of fanbase she has created. A fanbase of the worst people on the internet. Then she relies on react streams that her drama whore fanbase love to eat up.

>>65780858
Selen and Pomu should invade Phase

>>65781052
>has stopped doing react content months ago before her latest boost
at least look at her list of streams retard

>>65781269
I think Ethan Ralpha has posted something on twitter. I'm sure you really want to see that!

>>65781351
you mean the guy that got his purse stolen in portugal and doxxed a russian brony saying it was pippa? try harder faggot

>>65781269
Pippa got big because of drama/react content. To try and pretend that isn't the case is laughable and dishonest.
How can we forget her biggest hit "I don't like Wizard Game and wasn't gonna play it, but I hate twitter baddies more. So let's stream it!"

>>65781406
>Has this much knowledge about dumb internet drama hogs
Yep, you are a Pippa fan alright. That is the awful fanbase she created.

>>65776515
I’m sorry, but are you seriously saying that Wemi is more important to the company than Panko? Remi might make more money, but her content is super niche, and like >>65776789 said, a few of those paypigs dip and she’s in trouble.
Do you know how many times I’ve seen anons say they’ll watch Panko just because she streams on EU time and isn’t a twitch indie (or Kiara or Rin, who filter a lot of people)?
I would absolutely hate for Phase to lose Wemi, just like I would for Phase to lose anyone else. But doing GFE and making lots of money for yourself and your corpo is literally what every small corpo does. It’s not exactly the secret ingredient that caused Phase’s recent incline.

>>65781052
>She first got noticed due to her butting into the drama between Ethan Ralph and Mr. Metakur
Jesus, now I want her to stay away from Hololive

>>65781553
it's not Remi.
it's Airi.

>>65781525
you also know about a rrat from two years and took the time to actually try and get me on the most retarded rrat about her, don't act coy you fucking mongoloid

>>65781566
Yeah, there was an entire arc too where she was "fueding" with Ethan Ralph and he thought he doxxed her but it apparently wasn't her. The entire thing was stupid and anybody who still watches Pippa after that is the same kind of drama whore who spends 24/7 on the farms and makes DSP detractor videos.

>>65762601
I've tried multiple times but the bitch just won't shut up about trivial shit. If she were a dude she'd be DSP with how annoying she is. She doesn't beg for donos but fuck if her commentary most of the time isn't shit.

>>65781500
I didn't say she didn't, READ NIGGER
I'm saying you're judging her content on stuff she did months ago that isn't part of her content anymore but she still retained and grew her audience after that, hogwarts was in early 2023, it would be nuts if she can still grow just from that one drama, read less twitter

>>65781052
>>65781500
>>65781672
This is why I really appreciate how HoloEN can maintain an audience without pandering to the dregs of the internet.

>>65781566
Don't believe their lies. React content sure, but drama? Ehh

>>65762601
I dislike that she makes trouble for my oshi by providing dramatubers with fresh meat.

>>65762601
I will give Kiara a pity watch the moment she stops running her mouth about the inner workings of Hololive

I'm glad to see phase inclining, but I don't see them challenging NijiEN anytime soon, well the top girls at least, NijiEN is so spread you find them everywhere on the chart really. Interesting situation anyway

>>65762003
>nijien trying to kill off selen, the only one higher than pippa

>>65781500
Pippa is what happens when some random user of kiwifarms decides to become a vtuber. She is awful.

>>65781978
and she's mogging most of niji

>>65781919
>not wanting to know what's happening behind the scenes
>not wanting full transparency from people you're ostensibly paying (with superchats and memberships) to entertain you
???

>>65762601
All she has to do is not use the chicken voice and I will watch.

>>65781955
Phase Connect is like the Hololive of EN small corpos, in the sense of having a box allowing everyone to incline. Nijisanji doesn’t really have a box like that. That would be my guess as to why Phase members’ ccv’s tend to cluster closer together than NijiEN.

>>65762601
>I wish people would actually give Kiara a chance instead of dismissing her just because of what others say
Big assumption there. I gave Kiara multiple chances over the years, and every time am I reminded that she's just not for me. I don't like her personality, I don't like her voice, I don't like her content. I'll watch her for collabs I am interested in and that's about it.

>>65762003
These charts are useless. The girls are botted all of the time.

>>65782025
She treats her streams more like therapy sessions where she full-on whines and vents for hours straight and only the most diehard of white knights (KFP) are willing to sit through it and feed her ego. She has good ideas and is creative, she's just not a good person.

>>65781919
what's wrong with that?

>>65782025
Nta, and I think Kiara is based for giving us this information. Dramatubers will dramatube, but fuck it, Cover management are retards and Kiara calling them out for their shortcomings will never not be good.
But I can’t exactly send a superchat saying “I love how you let us know what’s going on and make clear that Cover isn’t perfect”, can I? Might as well just send a superchat saying “thank god I’m not a nijinigger who oshis the corpo”, with how blatant the containment breaking is.

>There are people in this thread denying that Pippa is a drama tuber
Absolutely absurd to suggest that she isn't

>>65762003
The second generation of V4Mirai are in a different color than the first generation and that triggers me

>>65781864
Phase has had to work to get rid of Pippa fans from other fanbases.
Pippa has been kept away from half the company for so they can build their own fanbases.

>>65782242
the speculation and rrats it generates

>>65782121
you can just not post if you don't know how they are made

>>65762601
>in a game collab
>others try to do something fun
>Kiara gets pissed because they're not playing the game correctly
Its a case to case basis but sometimes her being a control freak ticks me off

>>65782341
that's a complete fanfic, they collab more than before, pippa just got to dodge a collab ban for the new gen to offcollab with hina and they are all making a big collab on her channel on the 7th, try and watch a single stream

>>65779055
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>>65778766
Cope harder. Her raiders basically always stay the rest of the stream unless she is playing absolute slop like FF16 and she's been streaming at the same time slot for almost a year at this point. Median peaks is also a dogshit number because of the botting that's been going on for the last 2 months by some retard from /#/ that drives the peaks of each stream up from several ENs.

i really hope Kiara doesnt visit this place and see these posts

>>65782679
Pippa and Lia haven't had a real collab in almost 8 months. This is one of the most significant pairings in Phase Connect, yet they have been kept apart.

>>65782768
that's more pippa not answering her fucking DMs and Lia not streaming that much lately since she was doing finals

>>65762601
I tried to watch her multiple times and the streams were all so boring and insufferable.

>>65782817
lol
lmao
it's pippa's ego getting in the way. i 100% believe the rrat she is bitter lia got phase its first Big2 collab and not her. sorry pippa not everything is about you.

>>65782768
Took me 5 seconds to open Lia's channel.

>>65782906
>real collab
>a watchalong
anon....

>>65782873
pomu is bigger than henya?

>>65782933
Oh sorry, this arbitrary distinction naturally means that they hate each other.

>>65782980
Big 2 = Holo and NIJI
NIJI is bigger than vshojo. vshojo takes Holo and NIJI's sloppy seconds and makes them waste away on twitch.

>>65782980
vshojo isn't in the big two agencies.
>>65768811 this is how little vshojo matters compared to holo and niji.

>>65783040
no I just think you're pulling that one out of your ass when they both had much less content out since gen 3's debut and still found time to collab not even talking about the times pippa collabed with tenma in the last few months

>>65762601
She's not too bad, the problem with her was that she streamed at bad times for me and I have some EN vTubers I like more, so I just never made the effort.

But of Myth, I probably like her the most now. I came to dislike basically all of Myth except her.

>>65783164
Looking at Lia's VODs, she barely collabs with anyone who isn't her mom anyway. Statistically she collabs with Pippa more often than with the great majority of other Phase girls.

>>65783228
exactly, her content is very scatter shot and she will randomly drop streams for tummy hort

>>65782873
i'd believe it.
also the fact Lia gets respect from top industry players like Pomu despite being at that time 400ccv must sting a little bit.

it took until Pippa got 2000+ for her to start getting collabs with meaningful livers. at 400ccv nobody gave Pippa the time of day.

>>65783353
if you believe it you really don't know anything about their content and who they both know in the industry, hell last year before she popped off she had already were talking to fauna and mori, she's just retarded when it comes to actually setting up the collab, it would be stupid for someone that talks to fauna, kson, henya and mori to randomly start getting pissy about pomu of all people

>>65762003
>all those 2views
Rough

>>65762601
>ranked #14 out of 185 for CCV
>is consistently one of the top 3 moneymakers in Holo EN
>music gets millions of listens
Kiara's doing pretty fucking great

>>65783474
>talking with
talk is cheap, nigga. they all talk to everybody it is a small industry especially on the en side.
we're talking about people actually collabing and appearing on channels.
at 400, the biggest person pippa could collab with was nousagi
at 400, tenma was getting onigiri
at 500, lumi was getting maxor

the only reason pippa gets collabs is because people are using her now. she is too retarded to see that. girls like tenma, lia and lumi don't need to be big in order for people to want to work with them.

>>65783771
literally this time last year BAUBAU were 2views. The power of the blue dorito can turn 2views into #1.

>>65767613
She's yuropoor (terminal)

>>65783771
>Rough
You missed the opportunity to say "Ruff"

>>65783154
Viewership / Total Member ratios:
>Isegye: 8.07
>Hololive: 4.45
>Vshojo: 3.067
>Nijisanji: 1.43
Also, I see people comparing Isegye to vshojo. Why is that? It's like comparing JP to EN.

>>65762003
Why isn't pixellink here?
The girls are all low/mid 3 view

>>65775224
“trainwreck waiting to happen” has been waiting for 3 years now. phase has been called that since the beginning. anytime now right sister?

>>65783771
The doggos were 2views too

>>65783771
Reminder both Lia and Pippa raided into their bye bye stream last year

>>65762003
pippa is above all of nijiCN..

>>65782752
>i really hope Kiara doesnt visit this place
rumao

>>65789746
good stream today tenchou
just remember, no more JRPGs.

>>65762601
I do not like her voice or personality
I don't dislike her enough to anti her, but I do not want to watch her

>>65789746
doesnt she know rumao from that marine clip?

>>65783771
Weren't these too also two views last year? Any girl can reach 4 digit viewers by just being from Hololive

Now show hours watch and avg ccv ranking

>>65773571
Hey wait a second. One of these isn't from Phase!

>>65762601
I casually watch her, but there's a strange feeling about her streams that make me feel like an alien, maybe too much insider jokes, maybe too many previous lore, maybe my head is just messing with me.
either way, when she's playing a game I like, or doing something with other girls, I'm usually there.

Does anyone have the CCV chart of december 2022? I would really like to compare the changes between the years

>>65785521
Pippa should be out of the company already but Sakana doesnt care about the future and only what he sees now.

>>65782245
I appreciate the dirt she provides but if I worked with her I would hate her. She is that coworker who can’t keep her mouth shut… it’s all juicy when it’s about someone else, but when it’s about you it doesn’t feel so great.

not the biggest number fag but do peaks really mean much now that EN like to raid/redirect?

>>65793883
Female hand wrote this, show tits

>>65797164
Not by itself. That’s why /#/fags usually post two tables in the same image. OP just cut the “true average” part out for whatever reason

>>65793812
dunno when they started but looking at CCV charts from 2018 to today would be interesting

>>65782980
Phase collabing with Pomu is more significant than Henya for a couple reasons
>1. Like it or not, NIJISANJI is the traditional big 2, so them giving the greenlight for one of their big female aces to collab with the once outlaw mudshow indie corpo is a big deal for Phase legitimacy.
>2. by collabing with a big NIJIEN, it killed the perception that the big boys won't work with Phase and that Phase was "blackballed because of Pippa"
>3. Pomu doesn't collab with just anybody. She pretty much just collabs within NIJI, Kiara, and Henya/Pika. So Pomu thinking enough of Leah and Phase that she is willing to go on a Phase channel says a lot

>>65762003
Phase won the small corpo war

>>65762003
Ccv is worthless
There are 3views orbiting the top100 range that would be top20 or top10 in revenue.
Who the fuck care if you stream to 1200 people mostly SEAs and make less than momey than someone that stream to 500 people mostly NA and EU

>>65803017
Don’t celebrate just yet, Idol will catch up by 2025.

>>65803375
Idk maybe fame is kinda important to these aspiring public figures

>>65803638
Subcount matters more

>>65803779
sure

>>65803375
This is a retarded cope.
You want a mix of healthy CCV, healthy supas, and healthy subs.

If I had to pick one, I would want CCV. Being small and making a lot of money just sends redflags the whales are grooming in a bad bad way; you see it ALL the time on the small corpo sphere.

ccv > supas >>>> subs.
unless you're gonna be the .01% who gets 1milly, subs are meaningless once you get passed 100k.

Fauna now the lowest subbed member of Promise but also leads CCV. What a world.

>>65781973
Pomu, come home.

>>65802038
First of all:
>Leah
Secondly, I kind of agree. Like it or not, Henya is a twitch streamer, and collabs outside vshojo aren't exactly rare.
Also, it's twitch. Even if Phase Connect is active on both platforms, they're still more prominent on youtube. I was definitely more excited to see Lia and Pomu collabing than Henya and Pippa (not that the latter was bad, it just wasn't as exciting).

>>65804358
Subs are what get you sponsorships.
Miori is 500k subs 500 ccv and gets the email flooded by sponsor deals

>>65762003
Rosemi 49, can this get better?

>>65805941
I've watched enough Mio and heard her cry over the years about her dead subs.
I know she doesn't make that great of money because her parents are still on her to get a real job/career.

Mio isn't lowering herself to fetish ranking streams to gain subs and sponsors. She wants ccv because she doesn't have it.

This is her profile. She has made 100k in supas since 2020. She isn't pulling Holo/Niji level sponsors. She just gets the same shit every 100k+ chuuba gets + she gets her music stuff which is her bread and butter

>>65762003
Anyone got the actual CCV numbers? I hate how these idiots always take the median peaks instead

>>65806367

>>65806444
And they want to kill off Selen, can someone explain this to me?

>>65806356
She use streamlabs, the playboard SC stat isn't accurate

>>65806946
retard they all use streamlabs.

>>65806746
Niji en management are self important egotist who are more will to burn their corp to the ground then admit they fucked up and made mistakes or even listen to their talents or audience.

>>65765211
She streams when I'm asleep.

>>65806946
Take it up with Mio and I'm just telling you what Mio says. I have heard her enough times doompost about her deadsubs and poor ccv for her non karaoke streams.

>>65767506
QUIET! MONKEY STAYS IN HIS CAGE!

jesus christ seeing people try dismiss Pippas climb to "its react and shes buffed from then" as if the girls above her earned their numbers and didnt just score into the biggest brand in vtubing lmaooooo

>>65808203
Phase as a whole desu. The twin dogs were 2view peers to Phase this time last year. Holo turns them into #1 overnight. Phase started as 2views and are now creeping their way into the niji mix.

>>65784776
only people that do that are /#/fags really. they vtube and stream on the same platform, pretty much where similarities end, koreans seem far more receptive to vtubing than english audiences as seen even on youtube side of vtubing as well with japanese to english but comparing them directly is absolutely retarded unless your only absolute metric you give a shit about is BIG number ignoring all other variables.

>>65806746
Anyone that isnt part of the clique or bootlicking the company needs to go

>>65766013
Should be irrelevant for a CCV list.

>>65803419
lol, lmao even

Panko sure has grown.

who's sinking faster, niji or idol?

>>65762601
Nah, I gave her the benefit of the doubt multiple times, she is still annoying as fuck.

>>65782025
All she does is feed dramatubers.

>>65770664
>YT wasn't counting people w ad blockers
>YT bans people using ad blockers
>CCVs go up

>>65762601
Believe me, I've tried. I respect her a great deal, but she's just not very entertaining to me. When she goes on tangents I zone out and suddenly it's been an hour and I have no recollection of anything she said.
Really, I wish her the best, she seems like a hard worker with a good head on her shoulders. I'm glad we have her in HoloEN, but I just can't justify watching her.

>>65775205
lol, she's bottom in her gen, even below Bae. It's honestly crazy how far she's fallen. She used to compete with Gura.

>>65783771
Keep in mind that Fuwamoco has been botted recently. Not by ruffians, but by people wanting to discredit the tallies. It's a sad situation because BAUBAU is strong enough to reach the top natty, but some people are just that schizophrenic. (Not that Fuwamoco is the only botted channel of course. But they've been a frequent target lately, which is one reason why they're so high above everyone else on this table.)

>>65803375
>revenue
surely you dont mean donations, right? surely you know that big chuubas make $500k-1m+ just from their birthday merch on release day, right?

>>65762003
Why has this blatant numberthread been up for a day?
What ever happened to /#/ being a containment thread?

>>65803375
>There are 3views orbiting the top100 range that would be top20 or top10 in revenue.
*Citation needed*

>>65803779
lmao, the one thing sub counts are good for is advertising to stockholders and NPCs like yourself.
>OMG she has a million subscribers!? that's insane! :^O Every one of them are surely watching her content every day!

>>65764262
Man I remember laughing my ass off the first time I saw this, thinking that Hitler's mom was literally called Kiara. Too bad thats actually an L and not an i.

>>65762601
I put her on as background noise... yesterday, because nothing else was on. Let me be honest, KFP. I guess her tangents are kind of interesting and I appreciate her standing up to management every once in a while. But when it came to SC reading it felt just so... off and disingenuous. Like, I appreciate honest people, but she's so brash and crass, it feels like she's literally an inch away from calling her fans creepy faggots or something. The gist of the whole thing was:
>Dankeschön... Dankeschön...
>Wow a rainbow! *Begins reading then interrupts* ... you uh, wrote a lot of text. I guess you're a big fan huh?
>"I liked the subtle differences you put in X and Y." Uhhh, what do you mean? I literally did it the same.

>>65806444
The natty queen

>>65819252
NijiEN yab and the coffin they are building for Selen and themselves.

>>65806444
anyone want to tell me why brave are making a 3d studio for a couple of 2 views?

>>65821744
They are going to buy Idol in due time. The shift in company direction is why Yuko and Coni are back on their Pls planning their escape

>>65762601
Or, and this may be difficult to swallow, MOST people tried watching her and found her unlikable ... really basic things like her voice and personality are repulsive at times

>>65821744
Brave also owns VSPO and RIOT Music who can use the studio for variety streams and concerts.

>>65762601
I did give her a try for a week but she just filtered me so hard with her voice.

>>65762003
where's the full global one

>>65762601
at her best she's tolerable. I watch her if she collabs with my girl

>>65809756
You don't get any ccv if you don't stream, anon. If gura was on that dec 2023 list she would be at the bottom with 0

>>65824711
English board english list. Nobody actually cares about what slant eyes are watching

>>65825303
and yet that list is full of indonesians and koreans, did you even look at it

>>65825461
English is the only part that matters on this list. Not my fault numberfags decided all non-JP should share a list.

>>65821744
Because they made the studio to make money by having indies and other corpos buy time to make 3d events there. V4Mirai exists as an halfassed attempt at idols and they exist to showcase what the studio can do

>>65762003
>Yeah Bae numbers are leh bad xD
>literally on top 7
Numbertrannies btfo

>>65825726
That makes her a bottom tier runt in hololive, unfortunately. Very far below average

>>65762601
Her voice is awful, her personality is awful, her accent is awful, her content is awful, her timezone is awful, her laugh is awful, her main model is awful, her collabs are awful, her costumes are awful, her songs are awful.
There's literally nothing to like about her or that big mourn of hers that actually makes me sick whenever I see it, its too big.

>>65825929
But enough about Shiori and Nerissa.

>>65825726
Would be much lower if not for fat bots, I think the Promise collab had her soar to like 30k just so the botter could shit on Fauna not being first, and push Bae vs Fauna narrative. Many other situations like that. Also raid baby. It was a good month for her regardless with Yakuza and such getting better than usual for her numbers, but sadly the chart is inflated mostly for FWMC and Bae.

>Ame streams 5 times
>In top 4
How does she mogg most of the others?

>>65796517
If you just announced shit you are responsible for you wouldn't need someone else to do it for you.

>>65819248
the funny thing is you are low balling the number here

>>65762003
>>65762003
185 irrelevant whores and homofaggots who need to be purged from this world, along with all the cucks watching them.