/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

>ME ME ME ME ME ME ME ME ME ME ME ME ME ME ME ME ME

who else was responsible for the collab anon

>>65690423
Pippa got vtubers to play this game

>>65690423
I almost said I can't believe someone would sperg out about a clickbait youtube title but your brain is unironically so smooth that I still think you can go deeper. Give us your freshly baked rrat anon

>>65690423
why do phasemonkeys camp /vsj+/ 24/7 to find bait?

>>65690591
Maybe the other people who showed up? A not so narcissistic person would put their title as
>MASSIVE VSHOJO LETHAL COMPANY COLLAB!

>>65690423
>vshojo would be cool if it wasn't the mouse show
I'm not a vshojo fan but why would you watch most of them? Froot is a backstabbing bitch who cheated on her husband and threw silvervale udner the bus, while Melody is a literal sex worker. Or is it the sheer charisma of a TTS transexual that appeals to you?

Atleast with IM there is a sense of struggle and she was an opera singer. What I like about Hololive is I can see girls who are working towards their dreams. Even if they don't succeed I still enjoy watching girls like Suisei or Bae struggle, because that motiviates me to achieve my more mundane dreams (I'm going to become a doctor). What the fuck do I get from watching thots who just want to soak up simp money? Nothing.

>>65690690
Melody is unironically one of the best people in vtubing. She's an open whore with no secrets about it but she's also really nice to almost everyone and blamed herself for vshojo not getting sponsors when in reality it's just that gunrun has no clue what he's doing.

>>65690690
>Melody is a literal sex worker
What's wrong with this again? It's not like she's a backstabbing liar or [redacted] with regards to Iron Mouse.

>>65690690
>Melody is a literal sex worker
how is this uncool?

>>65690423
Mouse not only streams more than almost anyone else, but she also appears on the other girls streams offline frequently just to hang out with them. She's probably spent 20-30 hours just playing Minecraft with the Vshojo girls this week without even streaming most of it. Vshojo unity has been ridiculously high recently.

>>65690690
>I can see girls who are working towards their dreams. Even if they don't succeed I still enjoy watching girls like Suisei or Bae struggle, because that motiviates me to achieve my more mundane dreams

Interesting take. Don't take it as a insult, but rather an observation. I actually quit watching hololive because it doesn't fix that specific itch anymore, because some level of success is automatically guaranteed in my eyes.

>>65690423
The "I DID X, I BOUGHT X, I CREATED X" youtube meta is so fucking cringe. ME ME ME ME!!!!!

>>65690690
then go watch your holoshit and stay in your lane and stop obsessing over vtubers you don't even watch you toxic fuck

>>65690683
did the other people that showed up ask everyone else to show up as well? or did they just show up?

Why is she trying to be Ludwig

>>65690423

>>65691227
I mean, if you consider having a source of income to be success, then sure? But most of the people in Holo don't consider that alone to be success.

>>65691227
I understand that. It's why I don't watch most of Hololive and actively dislike a bunch of them. Sure they may have a measure of success due to being in Hololive, I don't dispute that. But it's what they do with Hololive that makes them interesting to watch. Suisei is going heavy into her music with hololive and MGO, she has mutiple albums and puts in lots of effort for her idol dream. Bae is similar, while she isn't anywhere as big as Suisei she uses lots of her money from HL to fund projects like music, she used her own money she saved pre-hololive and she has a strong work ethic even if the results honestly don't reflect that (I also like her as a person, shes honest, hardworking and sweet, which is similar to Suisei imo). Meanwhile other girls say they want to achieve dream X but won't work towards it. Risu admits she's lazy and won't do karaoke, Kronii says she wants to be a voice actress but I never saw her incorporate that into her content to develop her skills or show them off, etc.
I just like how you are in real time, publically watching some people aim high and give it their best shot with their golden opportunity. Meanwhile others get in and squander it (Gura), only care about the money (Sakamata was open about this from the start), or they jsut give up (IRyS doesn't even care about her own music anymore, I wish she harassed her managers more, but I've given up on her).

It's a big change from the usal hustle culture bullshit where trusst fund kids talk about waking up at 5am to work 16 hour days 7 days a week. Since these girls actually have to put in effort and take risks. It's not that simple as I also personally like Bae/Suisei on top of their work, while others put in hours but I just don't care for them due to lack of a goal (Koyo/Kaela) or a personality I dislike (Kiara, if Ame can build her own studio why can't anyone else isntead of complaining?)

>>65691968
>She
Nigga, you believe in Sasquash too?
Most, if not all channels are usually run by editors. It's not an open secret. This OP is getting mad at usual algorithm stuff

>>65690423
That's how organising an event works, yes

>>65690690
agree on everything but take that shit on melody back though. unlike the other twitch whores shes was the first vtuber chaturbate whore, somewhat respectable.

>>65690423
this dude is seething over a youtube video title

>>65690423
IM is basically Gura of VShojo with Kiara's work ethics. Suck it, phasecuck

>>65692496
>somewhat respectable
I think sex is a special/sacred thing that should exist enitrely as a private sign of love between two people only, strigly monogamous and in the confines of marriage. Sex work is anethema to my romantic ideals, so no I can't respect it. If it's any consollation I hate her less than Froot.

>>65692679

>>65692679
what an embarrassing post

>>65690423
I think we've officially broken IMschizo

>>65692679
this made me physically cringe reading this

>>65690690
>talk about irl stuff of a vtuber
>base his judgment of vtubers on their IRL history
>has a suisei picrel
case closed

>>65690423
The arrogance of that rat. Like it or not, it was Vei and her BF who played it before anyone,

>>65692679
Shalom to you too.
>>65690690
>What I like about Hololive is I can see girls who are working towards their dreams.
I don't get it, is it the blue dorito blinded you this much?
I mean, as someone who used to watched them, and I can vouch for Suisei, I don't get it. Out of the three examples that you decided to bash on, you get Froot, one that hasn't shy'd away from saying of feeling like a stanger to the group and only this year started collabing more, and with constant shitting parade on eveything she does, she had the perseverance of following a new dream of singing, and goddamn if it payed off.
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=stB6Ux-6g74
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KHAGP2aTAfM
You have Melody, who's not afraid of being called a sex worker, and it's actively passionate about it, even to getting a degree of sex ed, and who for a long time was afraid of collabing due to being a "brand risk" to them, came back to collabing just this year.
And lastly Zentreya, who's constantly shit on their TTS and god knows, how many menhera moments has that caused to them, now organizing the first multicorpo collab, being the sole reason Henya one of the new members is really happy about being in, and just enjoying streaming almost daily.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Si1nhr8UDXY

These people have dreams too, but you only see them as thots, because something I do not get you get unless you have been influenced by this board. Have a good year mate, if you become a doctor, learn some compassion and empathy

mouse plans in 2024
>events
>collab cover album
>original song album
>fortnite mention (maybe a skin)
>d&d mention (maybe charity with connor and foolish)
>lethal company mention (mouse solely trying to keep it alive despite gta rp meta)

https://www.moguravr.com/vtuber-comment-2023/

>>65690683
>Set up a house party
>Invite everyone to the party
>"Thanks for coming to my party everyone!"
>"Excuse me, *your* party?"

>>65693746
Can't wait for the rest of vshojo to get shafted in favor of ironmonger

>>65693344
tell me about him
why does he call her IM

>>65690423
Kiara amongus collab 2.0

>>65693947
Basically she's just the Kiara of vshojo except instead of telling her to fuck off, vshojo bends over backwards for her

>>65690423
>I Made [Peer Group] Do [Activity] And This happened...
Is it something to do with the algorithm or some other consideration for video exposure? I notice a lot of faggot youtubers use titles like this

No only she got everyone at vshojo to play lethal company , she also got everyone on twitch to play lethal company. She had the most watched hours playing the game as a streamer and organized the first LC tournament two days ago
https://sullygnome.com/game/Lethal_Company/180/watched

>>65690423
>vshojo would be cool if it wasn't the mouse show
Too bad that it is though, cope. Your vshojo oshi is just an extra in the Queens world

>>65691227
>because some level of success is automatically guaranteed
I was looking for a reason on why I also dropped Hololive but you're the first to actually pinpoint my exact feeling. I just didn't know how to phrase it.

>>65694347
Thats amazing! Mind telling me why her last eleven videos on youtube dont even break one hundred thousand views?

Holy shit bro you alright?

>>65690423
IMfag's youtube name

>>65695100
Might go digging through this later

>>65695100
Fuck you

>>65694890
hmm might be because her YT page got mass raided and reported by the communities of the other nominees for Content Creator of the Year

>>65695267
Her reaction videos all break over 100k because they are there for the videos not her

I'd probably like Ironmouse more if she actually acknowledged she's in her late 30s/early 40s with a teenage daughter, rather than having said it in the past, deleted it, and leaving it up in the air.

why are you guy having so much hate for ironmouse? she never did any kind of hurt to anyone.

>>65695100
that's what happens when you keep pushing for a nick that only you uses.

>>65693937
mouse antis refuse to call her by her name for some reason. She terrorizes them like Voldemort.

>>65695100
i bet it's a phaseshill

>>65695359
Who watches Vtubers to see them talk about IRL shit like that?

>>65691968
>Ludwig invented clickbait titles
I kneel Ludwig-sama

>>65690690
I don't watch Vshojo but this seems like an actually sane take

>>65696273
>numberpagpag bullshit
>an actually sane take
lol

>>65695708
If they use her actual name they know she will grow even more powerful.

>>65695923
Ironmouse's whole thing is talking about IRL shit like that (i.e. her condition). It just comes across like she ignores it so that she seems younger for views.

>>65690423
Vshojo is fine if you just concentrate on the newer talents starting with haruka.

>>65696459
maybe you should go back to the farms and gossips sites from where you came.

>>65696658
as opposed to who exactly ?

>>65696699
The older talents obviously, retard.

>>65696459
you're absolutely deranged

>>65696451
I don't know why they are so afraid, so I am going to say her name:
Ferrum Mus Musculus

>>65696732
what's wrong with Hime Hajime ?

>>65696868
Who?

>>65696933
>>65696732

>>65696868
A lot. Even if you like her for whatever reasons, she streams less than Gura.

>>65696658
They all collab together constantly so it's not like you can watch exclusively one or the other.

>>65695100
Even the pagpag thread stopped saying shit like this

>>65696663
>>65696780
Then how do you see it? Her condition has improved significantly, but she still puts on the voice.

>>65690423
Why is Nazuna on the thumbnail? She wasn't in the collab

>>65696993
It's pretty close, however.

>>65697436

>>65697253
The numbermonkey mind cannot comprehend a company where the talents actually like eachother

That's a Mudan title. But also, Mouse did push the Lethal Company meta fucking hard and introduced other streamers like Valkyrae to the game.

I guess talking about what a Vtuber said in the past about their own IRL is a problem here? Noted.

>>65698361
ban evading ? You should read the rules retard.

>>65691968
Kiara*
>ME ME ME ME

>>65698640
Nah homie. I got timed out for mentioning a past stream that mentioned IRL that got deleted.

>>65698746
>Please note that discussion should pertain to a VTuber's streams and content, and should not pertain to their real lives, relationships, or appearances ("IRL").

go back please

>>65697907
you can't even say this is true
everyone was under the assumption that this was the case until Silvervale quit and it turns out they didn't all like each other
at least silvervale claiming ironmouse didn't like her

>>65698831
I was talking about something that was in a past stream, making it content. If a Vtuber says something about their IRL on stream, are we just not allowed to talk about it here?

>>65698869
This is honestly exaggerating it. Her chat kept bringing up Ironmouse and she got pissed because they weren't even close friends. She probably regrets it because it just added more drama when she already had more than she could deal with.

>>65698869
anon we watch stream. The only one that seems a bit distant sometimes is kson but it more like because she is killing herself grinding irl

>>65699067
Can someone clarify the rule for me? I've been seeing 'mikeneko is mentally ill' and 'Selen attempted suicide' threads/posts all weekend, so I have no idea where you draw line.

>>65700182
Lurk more

>>65700182
Everything is completely arbitrary as decided by the jannies. But the Ironmouse thing and the word "wontons" are forbidden and always will be.

>>65700315
Good to know. Nothing ever changes.

>>65690690
>Opera singer
Is this her newest lie?

>>65690423
>more than Half of IronNigger stream time are sleep stream
Creator content of the year btw, KEK

>>65700655
I don't think even you believe that, Mohammed.

>>65690423
The only lie is Nazuna in the thumbnail.

>>65700655
Her sleeping wasn't even a fifth of her subathon anon. She doesn't sleep much.

>>65701018
These people are used to watch 4 hours streams and think 7 hours is a "subathon". Don't waste your time.

>>65701018
She did play a lot of YouTube videos that she didn't properly attribute and/or acquire rights to monetize.

>>65690423
ME ME ME

>>65700419
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N1d6R9bZr74
Damn, she's good at FAKING having opera training, I guess

>>65701546
ESL/Socially-inept Anon, that was a sarcasm.

>>65701546
>click video
>digusting nasal voice
dont ever link this shit again without a gore warning

>>65690423
lets be real op, if it wasnt for the mouse people wouldnt even join the company.

>>65701077
Youtube streamers flexing with their 6 hour "endurance streams"

>>65701631
With the stupidity that gets posted around here, sarcasm isn't a given

>>65690690
vshoujo is the reddit viewer containment company, you may hate the, but they're a necessary evil.

>>65701777
Nice trips, but if Ironmouse did her subathon on YouTube, she'd wouldn't be able to monetize others content.

>>65701886
>reddit viewer containment company
That's called Twitch.

>>65701976
Youtube is full of react content though? It's the corpos that disallow it.

>>65701976
are you retard? Can i post here the 200 videos of pewdiepie reacting to videos? Also aren't you a numbermonkey? Why you don't pull the graphic showing what content she did during the subathon?

>>65702180
YouTube Live sure isn't. The VODs get split monetization, so it's usually not worth doing.

>>65702396
YouTube has a ContentID system, which attributes parts of copyrighted content to the original creator and splits monetization.

>>65690423
>5k views
grim

>>65693828
Ironmouse
The CEO of Lethal Company.

>>65701546
that's not even her opera voice, that's just her normal head voice
her shakira activates my neurons more than anything though

>>65702605
worked so well with SSniperwolf KEK

>>65701886
phase fag talking about containment is like a whore talking about honor. you're the biggest containment breakers /here/

>>65703034
She's literally being sued for a claim made through the system.

>>65690423
One of the weirdest bait thread I've seen

>>65703127
phasebeggars are the pickme's of /vt/
they really think they're different than everyone else kek

>>65701886
sure is weird that the vshojo reddit is a graveyard while the virtualyoutubers reddit hates vshojo and loves hololive and nijisanji

>>65703168
she is being sued NOW that she fucked up anon. There's so many reacting streamers on youtube. Also hololive just go popular because of that react video they did from gta5.

>>65703403
Yeah, it's almost as if VShojo is the agency furthest from reddit.. Mouse ironically wanted to do a reddit review and call it VShitshow, but it was too dead.

>>65703577
>hololive just go popular because of that react video they did from gta5
You mean them playing the game?

>>65695100
I like how he ran away after this was posted

>>65694889
it was fun watching them try to make it. now they are a megacorp who is dominating the market so hard that all they have left to do is try to conquer other markets (video games in this case). it's like cheering on google or microsoft now.

>>65704160
What's wrong with that? By all accounts, it's a great place to work for. Even the talents who leave say good things about it.

>>65704346
i like the idol journey

>>65704346
It's kinda hard to believe in the "idol journey" thing when they're guaranteed success because of le blue dorito, never accomplish any of their goals, and just inevitably burn out and quit streaming. Also it doesn't help that they're clearly not superior streamers to the competition. If I wanted to watch people grow and succeed I would watch inclining small corpos.
That said, I do cheer when e.g. Fuwamoco or Shiori gets in, good for them, they grinded for years and got a golden ticket. Still not going to watch them though.

>>65690423
>vshojo would be cool if it wasn't the mouse show
if ironmouse video titles are the biggest complaint about this corpo we have left at this point, they're pretty cool already

>>65704740
>never accomplish any of their goals
Suisei is still grinding towards that though.

>>65704740
>never accomplish any of their goals, and just inevitably burn out and quit streaming
Who? If anything, the issue has been that they accomplish their goals too quickly.

>>65704834
How would Suisei accomplish her goals quicker, if at all, without Hololive? The point really doesn't make sense.

>>65690423
>watch ONE clip of ironmouse
>recommendations now "IRONMOUSE AND CONNOR", "CONNOR DID THIS TO IRONMOUSE", "IRONMOUSE FORCED CONNOR TO DO THIS"
i feel like the only people who unironically watch her all the time are c-words. Its painful and physically cringe to watch it. I feel like im thirdwheeling an e-couple, which isnt far from truth. The only actually good content i got from her is when i saw someone calling her "ironlungs" and thought it was hilarious
Anyway, after her face reveal, Matara is my russkaya koroleva/jena

>>65690598
isn't this the ho who got doxxed by the twitter dude she was fuckin?

>>65690683
Organises event, but somehow is not responsible for that event occurring - schizo logic. Also that is a fucking clickbait title it's youtube title meta, learn how 2 youtube faggot that channel is run by an editor anyway(Mudan i assume) mouse doesn't post her own videos lmfao. Mouse also streams more than almost any other vtuber, this sleeping on stream shit just doesn't happen outside of subathons, and literally every other person that does a subathon does it.

>>65691227
They gain instant success because they deserve it anon. Do you think passing the holo auditions is that easy? They're competing against more than 100,000 people and still managed to stand out and earn their place.

>>65690690
>Froot is a backstabbing bitch who cheated on her husband and threw silvervale udner the bus, while Melody is a literal sex worker. Or is it the sheer charisma of a TTS transexual that appeals to you?
I too can post bait and shit that was never proven

>>65690423
>sperging about someone using first-person pronouns to refer to something they did on their stream, edited down for their YouTube channel
>a title that wasn't even written by her because she does not personally manage her YouTube account
Nigga

>>65706559
Yes

>>65690674
Because similar to Nijisanji vs Hololive there is Vshojo vs Phase. There can be no yin without yang.

Vshojo has the better models and bigger tits

>>65708017
Tell me again what happened to the girl who streamed Hogwarts Legacy? Muh freedom.

>>65690690
>What I like about Hololive is I can see girls who are working towards their dreams.
What I like about VShojo is I can see girls who are working towards their dreams.
It's a bit of a meme but Katawa VShojo is real, every single member has had the universe shit all over them in some way or another, and every single one of them is digging their own way out and fighting to be better and happier.

When someone joins Hololive, they are quite literally guaranteed success. There's no struggle past the audition process. I'm sorry but that's really not that interesting.
I can still enjoy Hololive talents because they're funny or talented but I don't get invested in them the same way. How do you root for someone who has nothing to overcome?
Even the most-hated, least-ambitious Hololive talent has hundreds of thousands of fans and rakes in money for practically free.

>>65708411
>told don’t stream it because vshojo warned about the tranny targeting
>stream it anyway
>wtf vshojo why no help me

>>65708411
nothing?

>>65692679
>I think sex is a special/sacred thing that should exist enitrely as a private sign of love between two people only
I have similar feelings but I'm also enough of an adult to recognize that those are my personal feelings and only matter to my personal life.

You and I have no right to tell other people how they should or should not feel about what may or may not be important to them.

Melody's passion and dedication to the sex work industry and sex education is respectable. She works for what she thinks is right and that's all any of us can hope to do with our lives.

>>65708411
Freedom to make retarded decisions that the rest of the company warned against? You bet

>>65708017
Holo living rent free in VShokek and Niji heads.

>>65709225
Not really

>>65709156
They're supposed to be talent-first not twitter-first.

>>65708411
>Muh freedom
... Yes?
She was free to play that game despite being warned it might be a bad idea

Unironically what are you talking about

>>65708585
>>When someone joins Hololive, they are quite literally guaranteed success. There's no struggle past the audition process. I'm sorry but that's really not that interesting.
>I can still enjoy Hololive talents because they're funny or talented but I don't get invested in them the same way. How do you root for someone who has nothing to overcome?
You clearly don't watch ID or even EN at all beyond like Gura, Mori and Advent.

>>65709433
NTA but they fucking stream on twitch, what the fuck do you expect?

>>65709433
Why are you trying to blame VShojo for something they had no control over?

>>65709718
>Gura, Mori and Advent.
Funny 'cause I don't watch any of those and don't really have a reason to

>>65703759
Vshojofags think that playing a game is the same as stealing other people's content for hours at a time while adding the very bare minimum to it.

>>65709859
>>65710015
They had the opportunity to stand up for their talent, and they chose to ignore it. It was a PR decision where they avoided controversy at the talent's expense.

>>65711273
>risk your head over a decision they advised not to, and without any garuantee of fixing shit
>one stupid menhera
Wonder, what other company did the same

>>65711273
Acknowledging it would have only made it worse.
This is Internet 101 you fucking dolt

Silver and VShojo both went silent, that is the correct response.

>>65711456
I recall a certain blue dorito deleting an entire branch over a certain orange dragon.

>>65711515
literally everything they did made things worse for her

>>65711648
That's why she was and is extremely successful? Cope harder.

>>65711689
she would have been infinitely more successful if they didn't screw her over at every turn

>>65702684
>(you)
>The CEO of the construction company who built and designed your house.

>>65711778
>if they didn't screw her over at every turn
What are you even talking about?

>>65711877
you're one of those people who think they suspended her to "protect" her?

>>65690423
She did tho

>>65692596
Gloppy Drop System

>>65711786
> CEO
> Working

>>65711958
That's it? The suspension? They suspended her and Haato for a mix of reasons: they fucked up and they were taking heavy fire. They realized how deeply embedded the issue was when the CN talents joined in on the harassment, which led to the dissolution of HoloCN. What else are you on about?

>>65712211
banning holoEN from interacting with her?
canning asacoco?
not allowing her to appoint mods?
appointing bugs as her mods instead?
did you memoryhole all these things?

>>65712211
also go fuck yourself for saying they fucked up, unless the "they" refers to cover

>>65712296
She literally made an enemy of the biggest country on Earth.

>>65712418
You think Coco and Haato did that on purpose? You're insane.

>>65712420
you got that the wrong way around, bug-kun

>>65711877
newfags

>>65712467
they were harassed by your people for doing nothing wrong

>>65708585
It does feel very corporate, but I also feel slightly put-off by the fact that all of a Holo's content and character is owned by Cover. It doesn't matter if they completely self-produce an album, once they graduate it goes away. They can't use the same name to keep making music, they have to do weird PL funneling like Mori which inherently alienates the Hololive viewers since they seem to hate leaving the blue dorito (tm) approved space.

>>65712480
Bro, Holo stood up to China. VShojo couldn't even stand up to r/gamingcirclejerk.

>>65712575
they suspended coco and posted a statement that they support the one-china policy
vshojo did nothing about anything, which is the correct response

>>65712549
>your people
The fuck are you on about with this racist shit?

>>65712575
man these newfags are the best

>>65712681
you were implying that coco and haachama did something wrong that warranted punishment

>>65712681
He is implying that you are chinese. Gonna cry?

>>65712798
He's wrong. It's just stupid.

>>65712575
you think vshojo should have suspended silver??

>>65712893
Funny fact she tried to spin a lie on her "secret discord" that she was suspended. Once someone leaked it she deleted. Good times.

>>65712772
The way you phrase it is weird. They accidentally did something while working that they shouldn't have done at work. I would call that a fuck up. Outside of that setting, it's perfectly fine.

>>65713065
Crazy how if they had said literally any other country nothing would have happened at all

I wonder what the difference is...

>>65713133
There's definitely others. Tibet comes to mind.

>>65713065
anon that's the point, there was nothing wrong with it. Fuck China and they small pp for getting offended over the most trivial shit in the world. "OMG the flag of a country, this is offensive". Suck a dick.

>>65713200
if you compare it with Germany and the Nazi flag i will smack you in the head.

>>65713230
I wholly agree, but I'm not at work trying to market to a Chinese audience.

>>65713065
they did something that several other holos had done many times before in worse ways
they were harassed by psychotic bugoids because they were popular among english speakers
there was no mistake or accident

>>65712296
She deserved it all and more though. She cost cover countless dollars all because she couldn't shut her mouth.

>>65713299
>>65713365
please hang yourselves bugs

>>65713299
Neither were Coco or Haachama

>>65713329
>there was no mistake or accident
I think Coco and Haato showing the flag was certainly a mistake. Both have stated so publicly. They certainly had it out for those two since they led the expansion of the EN audience.

>i'm not chinese
>sucks pooh cock like a pro
Sure...

>>65713386
They both were working for Cover, which was marketing towards the Chinese audience.

>>65713433
>showing the flag
retarded newfag
>both have stated so publicly
in their management-authored apologies cover forced them to tweet?

>>65713539
Nah homie, on stream.

>increasing seething threads
They're afraid.

>>65713597
so you think silvervale should have been suspended for 3 weeks, vshojo should have put out an official statement that JK rowling is a nazi, silver forced to tweet an apology + forced to apologize on return stream?
because that's what they did to coco

>>65713839
don't forget to mod her antis

Pomu and Selen showed the true power of Lethal Company

>>65690690
>Sex worker
Go back

>>65713500
And they were not a part of the Chinese-targeted branch of the company

>>65713839
VShojo actually had it much easier. They wouldn't have been risking an entire market. They would also have the hindsight of knowing what happened with HoloCN.

>>65714133
That doesn't matter. They were influencers employed by a company working with China.

>>65714174
cover wouldn't have risked an entire market either if they just pretended nothing happened

>>65714402
So they just act like everything's perfectly fine while HoloCN is taking potshots at Coco and Haachama?

>>65714388
No, they were Japanese talents working for a Japanese company based on Japan streaming to a Japanese audience.

>>65714485
thank you for the correction, they should have fired the bugs while not doing anything to coco or haachama

>>65714556
Holo also did Bilibili streams at the time.

>>65690774
Not to mention when the guy who originally did her first 3D model sued her, she actually just kept it under wraps instead of blowing it into a massive yab.

>>65714591
It's not the same nor is it on VShojo, but Front being passive aggressive about it didn't help.

>>65714624
Were they streaming on Bilibili?

>>65714807
Froot*

>>65714849
Not at the time, but they were doing streams on Bilibili. It's obvious part of their YouTube audience would also be Chinese.

>>65714807
>>65714864
she never said anything. First off the pic people took was on her own chat but some subhumans in this board spread it like she had said that to silver. All the drama was fake, amazing.

>>65714807
There really wasn't anything passive-aggressive about what she said

>>65714936
>Not at the time
OK, then it doesn't matter
They were not in any way targeting China in that stream or as talents
They don't have control over whether or not a Chinese person is coincidentally watching them

>>65715008
>>65715025
She just happened to promote the charity Rowling had beef with while Silver was getting dog piled?

>>65715190
Yeah I'm sure that's the reason and not the month-long spergout over the game across the entire Internet or the trans girl that got killed in the UK like two days prior

>>65715190
anon she is british and the same day some trans person was stabbed. It never had anything with silver and the retard wizard game. Like i said the subhumans in this board love drama.

>>65715251
>>65715326
Okay, I get you. Why that specific charity? It certainly isn't the only pro-trans charity in the UK.

>>65715190
>Silver was getting dog piled?
She wasn't dog piled, she's dog pilled. It's a common misunderstanding people have when the truth is Silver just fucks dogs.

>>65715412
and that's why she never paid. Once people told her about that "charity" she removed it and was smart enough to not make a drama out of it.

>>65715412
Uh... maybe it's the first one she thought of? The biggest? Fuck if I know, you think I'm a mind reader?

I have hated ironrat ever since she backstabbed silvervale with that fencesitter bullshit "no one deserves to be harrassed (i won't name names though) which she self-admittedly did solely because people were calling out her silence on the mattet. two-faced bitch who pretends to be unity jesus and the mr rogers of vtubing when really she is just another cloutshark just like everyone else on twitch

>>65715534
Wait. She said she was going to donate to charity and didn't? Did she give it to a different charity?

>>65715591
that was her money anon, i don't know what she did with it.

>>65715621
Damn Aquaman 2 comes out soon

>>65691993
>squander it (Gura)
define "squander"
> I wish she harassed her managers more
so they can lie, ghost and fuck her over even more? I don't get it

>>65715550
>her silence on the mattet
Is the correct response
>that fencesitter bullshit
The second-best option

You might recall that nobody dragged her into that mess after that, whereas Silver coming back to stream and railing against the spergs only made it worse.

>>65715758
Doesn't she have good management now with Promise? Also, she was in the most recent concert.

>>65708411
This was a big turning point for Vshojo. It showed they would shaft the girls if you crossed management, who are the owners of Vshojo again?

>>65715996
TheGunrun and Mowtendoo

>>65712673
The dragon burned an entire fucking generation to the ground and had to pay a price for it. She honestly saved Holo from a lot of infighting and shitty business ventures. Dealing with Korean and Chinese idol groups is a fucking minefield regarding their reputations.

>>65716026
Correction. They're a startup backed by investor money, so we don't really know who 'owns' the company. We just know who the founders are.

Again, it baffles me that people see VShojo as some sort of workers commune.

>>65716529
Nobody thinks that, you're just stupid

>>65716713
People constantly pretend that they're not a business beholden to its shareholders.

>>65690833
hookers get the rope

>>65716782
Investors are not shareholders

>>65716827
You think investors are charities?

>>65715957
>good management
that also bans things like showing hands on stream? Debatable
>she was in the most recent concert
so she cares about it? Also, she announced that she'll be releasing a cover this month

>>65716873
it's a private company still retard.

>>65716873
No, but putting investment money into a company doesn't give you control over them.

Not that there's much that they CAN control anyway, because VShojo doesn't control their talent.
Which is typical of a talent agency.
Talent agencies have been around for many, many, many years and how they operate is well-known.

Just because you've been living under a fucking rock doesn't mean it's some alien concept that can't possibly be real.

>>65716962
Homie. You don't have to be a publicly traded company to have shareholders. Just look shit up next time.

>>65717065
Again, investors aren't shareholders

>>65717065
Anon you are unlimited dumb. Please stop saying the most retarded things.

>>65717143
See >>65716873

>>65717170
See >>65717009

Would you like to keep running in this circle?

>>65717210
So you think that the investors put $11m into VShojo, a start-up, for 0 shares and no control?

>>65717339
anon stop talking about things you don't know... OMG PLEASE!

>>65717339
Yes, because aside from being a talent agency, they also spend time developing new tech for vtubing

>>65717398
This is delusional. It's essentially saying that the investors donated $11m to VShojo.

>>65717493
Well no it's more like a gamble
You invest in a startup believing that they will become successful and return a profit

>>65717493

>>65717618
It's not a gamble if they don't have anything to gain. It's a donation.

>>65717390
>>65717644
Seething because (you) don't understand business isn't my problem.

>>65717646
>Venture capitalists provide this financing in the interest of generating a return through an eventual "exit" event, such as the company selling shares to the public for the first time in an initial public offering (IPO), or disposal of shares happening via a merger, via a sale to another entity such as a financial buyer in the private equity secondary market or via a sale to a trading company such as a competitor.

>>65717711
You legit said that they gave VShojo $11m for no shares and no control. What exit? They never entered.

>>65717698
you being dumb as rock is killing me bro

>>65717786
It's not my fault you're illiterate. It very clearly states what a VC investor expects from putting money in and when they expect the return.

>>65717944
i guess he doesn't understand the concept of loan too

>>65717944
>such as selling shares to the public, or a disposal of shares
Your ass said there were no shares. Next time read the shit you copy paste.

>>65718008
You have to pay back loans. The hell are you on about?

>>65717786
Venture capital firms don't always take share's or ownership in a company they invest in. A lot of deals are done on a % RoI over a set amount of years, or a flat% interest on the initial investment. Some deals will be done in anticipation of an IPO and getting a % of the revenue generated that way.

>>65718013

>>65718087
On a Vtuber start-up?

>>65718013
Yes, presently there are no shares.
Did you skip over when it said "eventual?"

>>65718184
>Yes, presently there are no shares.
Just stop.

>>65718133
What difference does that make

>>65718133
Honestly how old you are? Where the fuck you live? This kinda of knowledge is high school curriculum

>>65718311
It's an extremely volatile business at a risky time. It makes quite a lot.

>>65718377
Investing in start-ups is an inherent risk.
Which is why I likened it to a gamble, because it is.
Start-ups have a high failure rate. VC investors understand they are taking a risk.

>>65718336
If you're working with just high school knowledge, I understand how you got to there being no shares. Just stop.

>>65718446
you are retarded. Guys stop this guy is trolling or he is just this dumb.

>>65708411
Talent freedom happened. She was told not to stream it because the backlash would hit hard. She used her freedom to stream it anyway and got herself harassed by the vtweeters.

>>65718439
This is an assumption that VShojo got $11m in investor backing without losing any shares or control.

>>65718562
Yeah because it's an investment not a share

>>65718737
Just stop.

>>65718562
Simple even a 5 year old will understand
Investor gives 5 bucks to my company and we make a deal that in 5 years i will pay him back 15. Five years pass and now he have the rights to collect it.

>>65718779
I don't know why you're acting like some kind of authority on business when you have multiple people telling you that you don't know shit and correcting you at every step

>>65718869
>corrected you
Where was I incorrect? I had some people quote wiki shit at me that they either didn't read or didn't understand.

>>65718796
I'd get it if they were in a different business, but they're a Vtuber talent startup post-Covid.

>>65690690
Best post in the thread. Deranged coomers on suicide watch.

>>65693630
being a literal whore is not something to be proud of lmao

>>65719015
>Where was I incorrect?
Like every single post

>>65719113
So what

>>65719197
My man, look up what an articles of incorporation is and get back to me.

>>65719264
They're in a volatile business, and business loans dissolve with the business. It would be extremely risky to solely give a line of credit.

>>65719270
>Articles of incorporation are a set of formal documents filed with a government body to legally document the creation of a corporation.
... and?
>>65719389
>They're in a volatile business
All startups are volatile.

>>65719449
Keep reading. You'll get to it eventually. Trust.

>>65719484
>A corporation cannot sell stock until is incorporated via the filing of its articles of incorporation.
This? What about it
Are you saying that because they have the ability to sell stock, that means they surely must have?

>>65719705
Not yet. It has to do with the creation and allotment of shares.

>>65718562
>shares
There are no VShojo shares. It's not a publicly-traded corporation, there are literally no shares.
Control? Maybe. But typically VCs invest in businesses because they believe in the entrepreneur's vision, or at least think it's credible enough to let them steer the ship. To the extent their investors have control it's more likely to be informal, but a lot of the time it's very hands-off.

>Pretending to know business in 4chan
what in the world are you doing? Go celebrate new year already

>>65719780
It's an incorporated company with multiple founders, so of course it has shares.

i give up... This dude is dumb as shit. Good luck with your life

>>65719974
I guess you found it. Good work.

>>65692679
Holy fucking based. Ignore the other retards. They're just as much influenced by sex culture as like your local whore.

>>65719859
Yeah between the founders and possibly talents

>>65720242
These retards have been arguing that the company has 0 shares.

>>65720310
The conversation was about third-parties. There's no point in talking about internal shares.

>>65720696
That's a goalpost move and a half.

>>65720770
No, it's not.
Nobody said the company didn't have shares. They said the investors didn't have shares.

>>65720877
>Nobody said the company didn't have shares.
>>65719780
>>65718184
>>65716962

>>65721070
And the context of the entire conversation was regarding third parties having shares of the company

Is this where you're at now? Desperately grasping at whatever you can to still say you were right?

>>65708411
True talent freedom is having the freedom to play stupid games and win stupid prizes without being bailed out because you're a grown adult

>>65721185
The irony and lack of self-awareness is amazing. Seethe more.

>>65698153
The reason everyone started playing Lethal Company (and Phasmophobia back in 2020) are these guys.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9WuDi1ZUy2Y

>>65698153
Nobody found out about lethal through iron mountain this is a cope

>>65690423
>people are surprised griftmouse is still grifting
next you'll tell me people are shocked she lied about her illness for subs/donos

>>65706559
Just her body and not her face

>>65690833
He explained, it's just easy money, it is antithetical to idol culture.