/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

>>65624911
Are you unable to watch their streams because they don't have the fag option enabled in their channels?

>>65624911
>Nerissa

>>65624911
What?

>>65625198
she collabed with that man from vshojo in that leathal company stream

>>65625198
He's probably talking about Zen. Which should probably count as a male collab.
For the people that don't want to watch their oshi interact with men, I can't imagine anyone being fine with it so long as the guy puts on a dress and calls himself a girl first. And in my opinion, the whole text to speech thing is even more scummy, because he's essentially tricking their viewers into watching their oshi collab with a guy, so you can't even say "if you don't like it, then don't watch" anymore. Although I would hope that no one is actually dumb enough to fall for it.

>>65625198
No one was upset when Norio sensei collabed with Rushia or any of the other holos despite doing so as Inuyama Tamaki, a male avatar. It's because the avatar is just that, an avatar. It's the person behind it that matters.
Zen is a man using a female avatar. He is therefore a male and so yeah, Nerissa collabed with a guy even after saying she wouldn't.

>>65625780
>Zen is a man
i don't watch vhoejo, but is there actual evidence it is a man? or just no one knows for sure.

The new EN management got girls for hololive. Regloss WAS MADE so the homos could had someone in the company besides the same as always to collab with them, probably one of the requirements to join was that you had to have contact with them. Basically again the strategy of trying to turn the homos into puppets for the girls in order to make them more popular. Spoiler: it didn't work, it doesn't work and it won't work, it's a better strategy to send them to collaborate with nijis or indies
>Nerissa
Retard

>>65624911
>EOP doesn't understand actual japanese idol culture
SAD! Many such cases.

>>65626396
Yes because Matsuri ERP'ing in GTA with a Twitch streamer is definitely Japanese idol culture.

>>65624911
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S5-yWTQtyjA

>>65624911
>but most of JP is fag enabling now
Not my oshi. Not my problem

>>65626396
>actual japanese idol culture
you mean the idol culture that is way more extreme than Hololive's half-idols?
I think you are as retarded as the OP.

>>65626043
There are few posts that would be deleted faster.

>>65626845
Nobody cares about idols interacting with males in a professional capacity, the concern is private relationships. The equivalent with vtubers would be their RM's personal life.

>>65627112
>non-holo doxx getting deleted
I don't believe you

>>65627112
You could just give the digits to a previous thread on warosu.

>no source
I accept your concession

>>65627179
One them is mouse spawn

>>65627137
>Nobody cares about idols interacting with males in a professional capacity
Correct, Holo is like that despite what schizos tell you. However, male vtubers/streamers are another case since they have the tendency to flirt and show they have a close relationship with the girl off-stream.

>>65626043
lets put it this way, zen uses text to speech for "privacy" and so he doesn't get doxxed. Both there is a clip where filian asks henya to name a woman and then name a furry, the joke being she calls filian the furry. when filian asks for a woman henya says zen. filian is visibly confused and then asks if henya ever heard zen speak and henya says zen sounds like a robot. If zen is a girl, why the fuck would he voice chat henya and filian off stream with the retarded tts voice?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H4DtaVF3NkI

>>65626600
I 100% will not listen to a fag song or watch any of those fag enablers, but
>muh they sung on the same voice track
is pretty weak compared to collabing with them or talking to them off stream. Like I put this on the same level as Ina doing the phantasy star commercial with the one faggot.

>>65627179
it isn't a holo/not holo thing. Like jannies unironically don't do shit when you post promise dox. Watch
>mumei is in a wheel chair
>fauna has a private jet and is the great great great granddaughter of Jay Gould
>Bae lives in a cuckshed with a baby monitor and her parents padlock her in at night so she can't catch a dick
>Mumei and Bae regularly piss outside

>>65628817
>why the fuck would he voice chat henya and filian off stream with the retarded tts voice
opsec, same as why some talents use their chuuba name instead of their real name when talking to other talents off stream

>>65629156
its henya and filian. if top tier autist Gura has no issues telling the rest of the girls her name, then why would zen? also look how filian reacts, she clearly thinks zen is a guy

>>65627137
You're absolutely right. No one cares when a male host interviews a hololive girl on a TV show.
But there is nothing professional going on with all that VCR shit.
Unless you mean Matsuri partaking in "the oldest profession".

>>65624911
EN fans went off the rails and turned full Unicorn Prime without fully understanding the jap tisms behind gachi and unicorn culture. They're a lost cause now and many of the milquetoast vtuber fans say support the homos but turn around and only watch the girls and stick their heads in the sand with how the girls have gone full NO MALES mode in EN now. I respect Bae for not giving any fucks and going full barbie Stacey despite the new hardline NO HOMOS meta the other formally unity EN girls have been going for. Collab was homobegged but Bettel was the only one ass blasted about it.

On the JP side everyone knows the drill and the sperg outs are minimum when males get involved. After males get involved the ones with a problem will loudly announce their departure then actually leave. Then fans that aren't hardcore no males stick around. It's more likely since vtubing in japan isn't seen as purely a idol or CGDCT thing and male streamer forma de vtuber has been a thing since around 2017 while it's a much more recent thing in the west where the Idol CGDCT meta took a stranglehold.

>>65630456
Nigga VCR is just them having fun. You have to be an absolute joyless cunt to have a problem with it, Matsuri's whore adventure aside, which was still good content just for Laplus walking in on that shit

>>65629156
This a pretty stupid logic, just accept your oshi is a man

>>65630568
the other 2 weren't going to bitch because they were guests and they didn't want to throw the one faggot under the bus. the fact bae hadn't fag collabed for months until that point and the one homo was acting like it was pulling teeth to get him to do the fag collab suggests either bae isn't actively seeking out fag collabs (she is going hard into the numbers shit with the shorts and hiring a clipper) or the fags refuse to collab with her, which honestly would be funny as fuck.
Also the fact bae hasn't played vcr suggests she only sees male "idols" as ok to collab with.
Either way you are brown for liking homo collabs

>>65630653
My faggot I think Matsuri's parlay into the oldest profession is why people have a problem with it in the first place.

How can you retards have this same argument with each other over and over again? And it's usual suspects on both sides parroting the same exact talking points each time. I wouldn't be surprised at all if these are just bot threads.

>>65631021
The dead internet theory israel...

>>65627203
Have fun: 65379588

>>65630568
>you just don't understand, EN fans didn't get the memo: You're SUPPOSED to like watching the girl you love have more fun with other guys and get to know and meet up with them off stream while you sit there in the dark.

Kill yourself. It's even more fervent on the JP side, you stupid gaslighting EOP bastard. Laplus and Matsuri are the most hated holos for a reason. Their ex-fans are anything but quiet. Laplus literally gives more attention to her antis than her own fans as shown with what happened on Christmas.
Fucking homobegging retard.

>>65631077
Notice how ESL these threads usually are lol

>>65629260
because someone demanding mass delusion would get paranoid unless omniscient?

>>65625198
To be fair to that anon, zen is just like Joel who's model is a possessed porcelain doll (female), just zen never admits to being a man and forces everyone to think TTS is funny

>>65625198
>henya name a woman
>zen
>wait what? how do you know? Did zen speak to you on voice chat?
filian clearly thinks zen is a man

>>65631412
only noticed how there is always someone whose autism get triggered by it. (You)

>>65631199
So he's not even a tranny. He's just an opportunistic piece of shit.
I wonder if this shit is even known by Nerissa? Did he trick her into collabing with him? Because Nerissa said she didn't want to collab with males.

>>65631724
could go either way. I think a lot of vtubers know each other, but filian also made it seem like zen only does text chat and either henya legit thinks zen is a woman or she 100% knows zen is a man is was intentionally shitposting

>>65631724
Probably something to bring up in a member's zatsu

>>65624911
The JP's that are "enabling" now have always been fag hags. If you are complaining about ReGloss, the branch that were created to collab with males and all interacted with them before debut. Well, retards told themselves it wouldn't happen after they debuted. Males are retarded and think with their penis and then cry about it when it turns out the thing they knew before they got horny turned out to be true after all. The JP side of the company is dead as far as growth is concerned (which is why they created a new branch instead) and their bright idea for growth lately has been to encourage male-female collabs. But all the girls going for that are exactly the girls who always did go for that in the past. So the frequency has gone up but not the offenders.

>>65629054
>Bae lives in a cuckshed
Its a TINY HOUSE and their minimalist aesthetic is leading a modern movement to environmentally conscious living. You wouldnt understand how cool and sustainable she is.

>>65631199
nta. I thought you had some damning evidences that confirm the rrat so we can laugh at "her" fans simping for a guy, but it was just some anon rambling schizo investigation.

>>65627137
>professional capacity
What the fuck are you talking about? If you want girls to have sex on stream because it's just being professional, feel free to admit it. But to twist yourself into a pretzel saying that's expected for idols is beyond retarded.

Males in a professional capacity are an idol's bodyguard, manager, interviewer or the music engineer, etc. Not their personal friends that they expect you to pay them to have sex with.

>>65631925
>>65632057
We don't even know if Zen and Nerissa talked that much off stream besides to set everything up. No, I don't like male collabs, but even more than that, this feels like someone tricked Nerissa and that's actually fucking disgusting if she didn't know. That basically makes him a sex pest worse than any niji/holo male.

>>65629054
But only one of those is true.

>>65632358
She should move into a pod and eat bugs in a 15 minute city. She'll own nothing and be happy.

>>65631199
Finally, every time I suggest this people never want to do it.

>>65632433
Considering Henya, a member of Vshojo, hasn't actualy spoken to Zen, without Zen using tts, off stream I don't think, even if Nerissa would have known, or even had a clue, that it was a guy.

>>65632367
did you not even watch it? Are you retarded?
The birthday thing was literally solid proof that the female voice isn't zen, unless you think the person she mentioned shares the exact same birthday as her, lol.

>>65631237
She was never going to be your girlfriend

>>65632700
lmao, you think that matters, you stupid cunt? Come back when you learn what this industry is about.

>>65632433
>>65632689
That's a good point. Maybe just hint that you didn't like the Zen collab and think she should collab with different women if she ever does a VShojo collab again.

>>65631199
It's literally the "you know they're all men with voice changers, right?" shit that normalfags all repeat adnaseum, lol. Except it's with tts instead.
The guy tricks women into hanging out with him under the premise that he's a woman. He's not even trans. He's just a sex pest and deserves way worse than what I'm allowed to write here.

>>65624911
>most of JP
[citation needed]

Nerissa isn't my oshi, but I think it's gross that a guy would trick a girl like that, especially after she made it really clear she wasn't interested in collabing with males.

>>65624911
Cover is chasing eceleb clout now, they think holos need it in order to grow their already huge audience. ReGloss exists only to whore the girls out for homostars and ecelebs too. Blame yagoo (who already wanted this) and the investors. And management, they're super cool with it too.

>>65631237
Wtf happened on christmas?

>>65632358
she literally called it a shed, her mom has a baby monitor and checked up on her because she thought Bae was making porn during a ringfit stream and she only lives in the cuckshed because she is too poor to buy a house and her dad doesn't want to have to hear her shout

>>65632403
when he says professional capacity he means
>la+ and fubuki interviewing actors
>Ina doing phantasy star online ads with a homo
>bae eating spicy roman in the study in front of like 20 other staff members with a faggot
he does not mean
>talking on discord
>off collab outside the studio
>having normal collabs

>>65632689
I sit through that monotone torture machine voice and all you got was a fucking birthday and prove an actual girl is helping him. It is like i am looking for DNA evidence but you give me something the defense can say circumstantial.

>>65632461
bae probably unironically has eaten bugs. I have a chinese friend and she said her mom made her eat a chicken's face

>>65632578
it could go either way, vtubing isn't that big of a scene and a lot of the vtubers know each other. Like there was a minor yab a while ago when some niji faggot @'d mumei on twitter and both of their PLs had interacted in some capacity, I don't remember if it was on stream, in tweets or they just followed each other. Though, I'd assume they weren't too close if the fag was a retarded enough attention whole to @ her

>>65633027
its not even muh voice changer, because if you could voice change to be one of the girls for hours and not get caught it would be amazing. its literally tts

>>65629156
i too, use a voice changer when talking to my friends on vc so they dont dox me and le ebbin swat me

>>65633891
I think the fact that filian clearly doesn't think zen is a woman should be a decent bit of evidence

>>65625527
oneone cares

>>65624911
HoloEN has been in the middle of a heated contract dispute and there was a reason Kiara stayed up in the middle of the night just to hear news from a management meeting. For the most part they don't want to get distracted when they are in the middle of negotiations with their own employer. They are under enough stress with the possibility of a Kronii graduation that most of them didn't want to deal with unicorn drama. I doubt Cover or the EN talents have given up on HoloPro unity but the timing was bad so most of their collabs were temporarily paused until 2024. My guess is that by summer HoloEN will return to having occasional collabs with Holostars.

>>65633416
For the second year in a row, Laplus said she wasn't going to stream on Christmas Eve, and her excuse this time was that she was going to be working (late at night, on the weekend). Everyone knew that was a lie because Cover doesn't make them record on Christmas Eve because most of them want to spend it with their fans. And then, during the night in question, she was (presumably drunk) on twitter the whole time. When called out about this, she said one of her antis was upset because he didn't have Christmas plans. Saying that implies she did, however, and if you know what Christmas is for in Japan, you'd understand she was basically confirming everyone's suspicions. She later claimed she had dinner with her family instead.
https://twitter.com/LaplusDarknesss/status/1738881117959389303
His response was if she has time to respond to antis, then she should use that time to stream for her few remaining fans instead.
The guy is a former long-time member too.
https://twitter.com/ZcAxp/status/1738890609782653296

>>65634521
filian is an sjw millenial larping as a zoomer to attract other millenials pretending to be zoomers. You can tell because of how unnaturally stupid she and her chat behaves even for actual zoomers.

>>65635801
if anything that would make her surprise at henya calling zen a woman more evidence. filian might know and be shocked henya doesn't

>>65635721
>>65633416
Pic related fucked La+ in the ass then in the mouth then in the ass again. he literally fucks every single girl who does not stream christmas eve and christmas

>>65633891
Again, you dumb fucking retard:
The girl said that HER FRIEND's birthday was the day before and that she made him pie.
That was a clip from Zen's stream on May 21. Zen's birthday is on May 20. The girl was talking ABOUT Zen, meaning SHE ISN'T ZEN.
How are you this fucking stupid?

>>65629156
Using your vtuber name in public isn’t opsec. I don’t even think it happens outside of holo as they use it as a nickname

>>65635967
Anon, I know the whole not streaming on christmas thing is dumb, but why the fuck would Lap lie about what she'd be doing and change her story a bunch?
Unrelatedly, Lap recently got a cat, but she refuses to post a pic of it even though she posts pics of everything else in her life. Most think the real reason is because the cat belongs to someone else and it would be recognized as belonging to another streamer.

>>65634412
>implying they are friends

>>65636166
what is the dumb thing they do? Don't all the EN girls call each other their holo names in public because they are afraid of pulling a that time Gura intentionally called someone her name on stream?

>>65636295
I wasn't shitposting. I was agreeing with you that this fatfuck was railing la+ because she is a hoe

>>65635653
What are you eating to have these visions revealed in your dreams? I want cool prophecies too.

>>65629156
This is probably somewhat true, but they definitely know each other's names or else we wouldn't have gotten the infamous "wdsdi, bros?" moment from Gura and Ame.

>>65635653
Or, here me out here, maybe they don't want to collab with the homos. But honestly, you might, maybe, have a case for Myth and Promise but not for Advent since they're new and they aren't in any contract negotiations.

>>65636552
no, gura actively went on a dox site during the collab with the intention of doxxing ame for being a herfag

>>65636634
the contract says that any girl who can prove her virginity is not required to collab with homos

>>65636796
>Western Women
Welp, it's joewaridover. Pack up your bags boys.

>>65628817
It's schizo garbage like this that reminds me there is literally no evidence zen is a man beyond actual schizo reasoning. Zen even had a voice reveal and it was a girl lmao.

>>65637267
Did you literally just not read the thread or are you too much of a newfag to know what to do with an old post number?
>>65631199

>>65631237
>he can't stop projecting his cuck fantasies onto normal people who enjoy Vtubers rationally
many such cases!

>>65637424
>UHH SHE DID VOICE REVEAL BUT A GUY CORRECTED HER ON PRONUNCIATION SO THST MEANS SHES NOT THE REAL ZEN HE ISSS!!!!
Like I said. Total fucking schizophrenia. Off yourself. Zen did a voice reveal and it was a girl. Everything else is your schizo fucking rrats without a shred of evidence.
>SHE SAID SHE CANT WAIT TO BE A PART OF THIS COMMUNITY BUT SHES ALREADY IN THE COMMUNITY THAT MEANS ITS THE GUY AND NOT HERRR I SAW IT IN A DREEAAAMMM?!!!
Weak bitch.

>>65637571
Lmao. You're actually fucking braindead.
Explain the birthday shit then, motherfucker. Ask yourself why "she"'d continue to use TTS after doing a voice reveal, you subhuman, smooth-brained bitch.

>>65637740
You fucking explain it you stupid weak little tranny schizo lmao. It's fucking ultra schizo shit.
>OMG DA BIRFDAY BUT SHE KNOWS AND ITS HIS AND ITS THIS NUMBER DIVIDED BY 47 AND YHAT MEANS ZEN IS THE GUYYYYY!!!!
You should be euthanized. I mean that. The government should kill you as a safety measure for the rest of non schizo society. You weakling. Wimp.

>>65637571
Anon. That streamable is irrefutable. You've been simping for a dude, you dumb, gullible retard.

>>65637571
The difference between "vii" and "seven" isn't explainable by mistaken pronunciation. It's straight up lack of knowledge. It's worse than saying you're a long time big fan of "LIE-nard SKY-nard." That could at least be explained by never hearing someone else say the name properly (unlikely as it is).

>>65637972
>>65637875
>NOO ITS IRREFUTABLEEEEE!!;
>needs a fucking 20min schizo webm with no actual evidence in it where the voice it's examining is clearly a woman's
Trannies seethe. You want zen to be a woman because it validated your toon lifestyle. But she's not. And you're not a woman! Lmao! Schizoooo!

>>65638133

>>65638271
What's the voice coming out of zen, you despicable tranny? A woman's? Case closed. Seethe cope dilate.

>>65637866
>>65638133
Are you just purposefully being stupid? The voice was a woman's because he got his friend to stream for him. She talks about Zen being another person.
Why are you acting so unhinged?

I already explained why the birthday part was significant. It proved the woman talking wasn't Zen. >>65636028
That girl wasn't Zen because she was talking about Zen. The person with the birthday she mentioned and baked the cake for was Zen. Zen's birthday is on May 20. So unless you think that the girl speaking shares the same exact birthday as her friend that she's talking about, then you're fucking stupid.
Capitalizing your letters like a schizo doesn't make your argument stronger. It makes you look like a coping faggot. You've been simping a man. Get the fuck over it and grow up. Move on if it bothers you.

>>65638328
>What's the voice coming out of zen?
a mans

>>65638393
>What's the voice coming out of zen?
>a mans
The tranny seethes and copes. But the voice is a woman's! Now you must dilate.

>>65638133
Meds. Take them.

This has to be some sort of false flag, right? No one would actually be this angry at people pointing out that Zen is a man right?

>>65638434
how does saying zens voice is a mans make me a tranny?

>>65638389
>he got
Proof? Oh wait yeah you have none. You just have a schizo made up fan fiction in your tranny brain. Meanwhile the voice from the avatar is a woman's! You wimp. Weak lil bitch.

>>65638451
Dilate. Do it.
>>65638389
>NOOO DA BIRFDAY AND SHE DAID DA BIRFDAY THAT MEANS SHES NOT ZENNNN!!! IT WAS RVEALED TO ME IN A DREAAAMMM!!!
Schizo lil weak bitch. Literally writing a fanfiction where your made up main character is a tranny because you desperately want to be tranny validated. Zen isn't a man. You'll never be a woman. What now weakling bitch? What now wimp?

>>65638482
He said you wanted Zen to be a woman because it validates your lifestyle, so arguing that he's actually a man (which he IS), makes you a tranny, because the voice is actually female. Unfortunate that society can't help the mentally impaired more than this.

>>65638434
>>65638504
>>65638602
You seriously seem unhinged. Why do you keep bringing up trannies? This has nothing to do with those freaks.
Zen is a man using a female avatar to farm simp money. He understood correctly that he couldn't do that with a male voice. So he uses text to speech and tricks women into collabing with him under the guise of being a woman. He's an opportunistic leech and a scammer, not a tranny.

>>65638649
ohhhhh..... thats retarded

>>65638649
Yeah, this is what I'm trying to understand as well. I don't think he's actually this stupid and logically inconsistent, so he must be a troll. Maybe he's trying to sage the thread? He's going to be here for awhile if that's the case.

>>65638674
You're a tranny. That's why tranny. Zen is a woman. The voice reveal was a woman's. Now show me some actual proof to the opposite or dilate. I'm still waiting beyond made up fanfiction from a weak bitch who should be executed by the government like you.
Wheres the evidence troony? Where is it? You got anything beyond a fanfic you made up lil weakling wimp fatty?

>>65638797
you've been sending money to a man while you jack off to his tits lmao faggot

>>65638797
your trying too hard to fit in with all these buzzwords

>>65638767
You believe you're a woman and are just a fat balding man lmao. Now that's retarded. You also made up a fanfiction because someone nervous said a birthday and created a weakling wimp fanfiction based around it even though all actual evidence flies in the face of it.
Seething troon. Your entire life is a delusion. Lose some weight lil troon wimp.

>>65625527
>it's okay when Kiara did it with neuro and vedal is a confirmed dude

>>65638902
>>65638838
>Show me actual evidence
>UUUHHHHHHHH BUZZEORDS!!!
I knew it. Fucking weak lil trannies and tranny made up fan fictions. Literally schizo tier trannies.

>>65638921
>>65638902

>>65638787
>Maybe he's trying to sage the thread?
The correct move would be to stop posting if that was his goal. He's only encouraging more activity here and for more people to see that evidence, and thereby understand how fucked up what he did to Nerissa really is. For this to be his true intent is giving him too much credit though so I think he's just a very mentally ill schizo with no real logic to how or why we're all trannies for disliking a dishonest tranny.

>>65639008
What evidence is there?
>voice is a woman's
>UHHHH BUT SHE SAID DA BIRFDAY AND IT CANT BE DA BKRTHDAY DA NUMBERS AND DA COKMUNITY IS DA
Lmao you weak lol pussy wimp. Weak lil bitch. Fucking fatty lmao.

>>65638962
vedal is confirmed for having a literal micropenis

>>65638797
I hate trannies, anon. I don't understand why you think people showing that Zen is a man makes me or anyone else a tranny or promotes trannies. Can you attempt to explain that?
>The voice reveal was a woman's.
No it wasn't. The voice reveal was two people. He went on the mic with his female friend and had her pretend to be Zen. This is obvious from the things they said.
>Now show me some actual proof to the opposite
Sure. The proof is here: >>65631199
The birthday thing is irrefutable unless you really believe the man and woman both share the same birthday. The female voice in >>65631199 was talking about the male and said his birthday was on May 20. That is Zen's birthday. Therefore, the man she was talking about was Zen.

>>65625462
>>65625527
Plausible deniability. Nobody knows for sure or is able to prove it either. And even if it was true, Nerissa likely doesn't know to begin with.

>>65638987
>>65639099
How does it feel to realize you’ve been beating your meat to Peter Griffin’s sideboob? Doesn’t sound like it feels very good

>>65639285
>Nobody knows for sure or is able to prove it either.
Anon, it was literally proved that Zen isn't a woman in this thread and >>65631199

>>65639368
Alright, I won't even check and assume you're telling the truth, but my point still stands
>And even if it was true, Nerissa likely doesn't know to begin with.

>>65639479
Well, yes. I don't think anyone here is arguing Nerissa knew she was homocollabing. She's too busy with hololive to bother getting into the weeds of Zen's history. That's why I think someone in her next member zatsu should just say the TTS voice filtered them and Nerissa should avoid collabing with """her""" again.

>>65638921
>>65638987
>>65639099
You're Zen, aren't you faggot? I can't imagine anyone else being this angry about him being exposed as a grifting male sexpest.
The only thing you can do is call me a "tranny" because you know everything said here was right about this two-faced shit head.
Guess what, asshole? I'm going to email Cover that streamable and tell them Zen tricked Nerissa into a collab. Eat shit, you fucking queer.

>>65639695
> I'm going to email Cover that streamable and tell them Zen tricked Nerissa into a collab
>thinks cover cares about his opinion
ok hes a crazy person living in lala land, case closed

>>65639643
I'm just going to straight up ask her why she said she wasn't going to collab with males but collabed with Zen.

>>65639932
Might be too direct but I can't stop you from doing you, anon. The most critical hit on a streamer is to say you don't find them entertaining, and saying you don't find Zen entertaining, in my mind, is the easiest way to make him persona non grata amongst hololive. Then again,
>why not both

>>65637972
>That could at least be explained by never hearing someone else say the name properly (unlikely as it is).
How would you hear their name pronounced if you only listen to all of their albums? Only pseuds learn things from discussing them. Its like how everyone who knows how to pronounce 2hu properly is a secondary by default.

>>65633719
Nobody has ever had a problem with stuff like interviewing actors or being interviewed by tv hosts. While you could pretend some of those other examples count, the problem is you have to choose to do them with a homo. It's not actually part of the professional requirement, that's the girl's desire to be around a guy. You could say in Ina's case she passively accepted collabing with males and there was no required direct interaction with them (that doesn't mean she didn't DM them, but it wasn't actually required). But Bae is active friends with the homos and wants to hang out with them more than she would most of the girls. She's not their professional acquaintance.

>>65640492
>Only pseuds learn things from discussing them
Most humans are in this category.

>>65631446
Never refer to that literal who as Joel, that's a reserved name for alien and grand dad enthusiasts

>>65636028
are you too retarded to understand what "hard evidences" mean? it is on the tier of "nijisanji stealth suspension rrat turned out real, confirmed by former livers". The bullshit you gave still gave deniers thousand ways to cope.

>>65639285
Anon he was doing VRchat before the zentreya shit when he used to do the anti horny brigade

>>65640567
Yes. Most people are pseuds on most topics.

>>65640505
ina didn't dm the homo. its literally her reading off a script

>>65640973
Tell me, retard. As a math graduate, how would I learn abstract mathematics any other way than through discussion? Your epistemological reps are non-existent. Go eat sand with the intellectual dregs where you belong.

>>65624911
This board has some of the dumbest fucking threads ever

>>65640950
not that anon but your level of burden of proof is just pigheadedness, your like that Dave Chappelle sketch where he says he won't believe R. Kelly pissed on some teenage girl because she isn't holding up her underage drivers permit

i get you feel the need to debunk disinfo, but sometimes you need to call a duck a duck and a spade a spade, if you get any worse you might become a flat earther

>>65640950
When a key witness contradicts their testimony in a way that clearly shows they're lying, that is considered "hard evidence". You sound like one of those retards that misunderstands what circumstantial means in relation to evidence and calls anything even remotely deniable as such.

In other words, yes, I suppose it's POSSIBLE that that woman and Zen share the same exact birthday, and that the man knew how to pronounce all of Zen's friends' names but the woman didn't. And I suppose it's POSSIBLE that the woman gained temporary amnesia and forgot she was part of her own community, but all these things sound fucking ridiculous when faced with the way more likely scenario that Zen was the man sitting next to the woman the entire time instead and only used her voice back then to convince people he was a woman.

>>65641775
Hey now, put down that Occam's razor. It's sharp and dangerous and makes you a tranny!

>>65640951
Post proof faggot

>>65633296
Funnily enough, for YAGOO to get western investors and sponsors he wants , he’d have to sacrifice most of EN’s fans and get rid of Gura and Bijou because loli is le bad in the West’s eyes.

>>65638465
I think thats just the kind of fans she has. Theyre rejected normies that were too nerdy for normal people, but too normie for nerdy people so they get into nerd/weeb stuff without understanding the already built culture around it and get mad when things dont go how they think it should be. Like almost all of them go stright for "id shoot you" "you should be hung in the street" "you should get euthanized" or some other extremely edgy shit when they start loosing arguments

>>65635653
>It was revealed to me in a dream

>>65642500
even idol has lolis

>>65624911
They are however enabling the biggest fag of all, right in their chat, you op

>>65629054
>Kronii is a descendant of Kim Il-sung and a Japanese woman

>>65626043
Why would a woman need to use text to speech? If it were a woman embarrassed about having a shitty voice then actually revealing said shitty voice would see her get an explosion of sympathy supporters, basically the fanbase Ironmouse cultivated. There is literally no point to using TTS if you're a woman.

Is Zen in this thread damage-controlling this potentially damning evidence that derailed this thread? Is that who that super schizophrenic asshole is?

>>65646897
It wouldn't surprise me. Remember that time he broke down and pouted like a faggot because no one wanted to collab with him?

>>65646897
That, or a homobeggar using Zen as a deflection.

>>65646552
I do believe he is a man, but i want hard evidence to shut up deniers.

>>65624911
Always have been the case, it's just that GTA shitshow makes it more evident and you were too distracted by TEMPUS for no reason whatsoever but the lack of language barrier, so you couldn't notice all the shit JP vtubers do

>>65626506
Yes, unironically.
Never seen clips from Japanese variety shows? Their entire entertainment industry has at it's core PORN

>>65626600
I blame mori for this

>>65647140
Just ask them why a woman would use TTS. That always seems to shut them up.

>>65624911
>hasn't fag enabled outside of Bae and Nerissa in like 5 months,
>Nerissa
She hasn't collab with a homo.

>>65624911
Deadbeats are quick to whitewash Mori still collabing with Homos.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EoCA8zpbm-0

>>65647527
Nerissa hangs around too much outside the Holobox with Niji and VShit friendship and shills literal whos getting them into other Holos DMs.
She is a cancer on par with Ollie, much worse than Bae

>>65647527
zen is a man, filian more or less confirmed it

>>65647640
>Nerissa doesn't engage in tribal faggotry
>Unironically say the holobox is a good thing
>This is worse than collabing with Males.
Tribal fags are a blight and worse than homobeggers

>>65647630
no one watches mori so no one knows when she fag enables

>>65647728
>More or Less
So it came to you in a dream tier evidence.

>>65647747
Maybe if Nijishit would stop attacking Hololive at any given chance and making themself look like clown, but alas they can't help themself to act like niggers

>>65647930
Then don't hate on the talents. Unless the talents are shitty people like Millie.
I, for one, hope Hololive rescues Selen since she deserves so much better.

>>65648022
>Unless the talents are shitty people like Millie.
Millie isn't even the worst "talent" there lol
Interacting with Niji is disgusting to see from an Holo

>>65648083
Among the girls. she's the biggest snake, but again, you're pushing guilt by association for everyone else because of your tribal fagging.
Nerrisa and Reimu had good chemistry for their collab especially with Zen always string the pot.
It's kinda sad you deny yourself good content because of prejudices.

>>65648225
>you're pushing guilt by association for everyone else because of your tribal fagging.
I sure love the Famili :3 when as a whole throw under a bus another family member lol

>>65648306
Again, guilt by association. You need to find another act sister.

>>65648364
thats cool but no one was there for Zaion and no one is there now for Selen, Family First!

>>65648447
Again, blame the company, not the people. But you're just playing the tired old song now sister.

>>65631237
>Their ex-fans are anything but quiet
this is a bad thing, unicorns need to stay on the high ground so beggars can't make shit narratives to attack

>>65648557
Both the company and the members are piece of shit.
The only way a Niji can rehabilitate their name is by leaving the company, no exception.
Lets not memoryhole the whole "all out war" too now

>>65648687
>Still pushing guilt by associate.
>Lets not memoryhole the whole "all out war" too
Clearly didn't matter since Kiara and Pomu still collab and have a good time.

>>65624911
you really ought to stop calling them gay when they are in fact shapeshifting sex pests.

>>65624911
They realized male en vtubers are largely fucking awful with 0 redeemable qualities
They "good" ones even gave and that's that. My rrat is they really creeped out the girls somehow since they stopped interacting with Kronii and Mori completely before they left.

>>65625780
>even after saying she wouldn't.
proof next thread?

>>65649323
*gave up

>>65649323
whatever it was must have been bad for them to fire the 2 of them and for Bae to not fag collab for like 4 months. and again, the fag really seemed like he didn't want to ask Bae to do the barbie watch along, even though Bae probably didn't mind doing it

>>65631199
based. never doubted it. it's the only logical reason to the gimmick.

>>65647811
NTA, but
Read. The. Thread. You. Stupid. Retard.
>>65631199

>>65624911
I opened this thread hoping I would get a discussion about why western vtuber fans seem more resistant to male collabs than the Japanese fans, but instead it's just a bunch of shitflinging about Zentreya

>>65650092
Nah

>>65650092
All I see are random numbers, got to do better than that.

>>65650171
A go to strat. Bring up Zentreya so /pol/ goes on their culture war to derail the thread.

And I thought the unicorns were delusional. Zenfags take it to the next level.

>>65641061
>Literally the first one to join the Bad end night cover
>Didnt DM
DYRBI

>>65650183
where do you newfags come from?

>>65650412
If you're going to post proof, you better spoonfeed it. Direct links, or nothing.

Understanding that Zen is a man shouldn't be questionable information nor should it be information that negatively affects you. It's simply just a world truth that you ignore and give no weight to. Like the sky being blue. Everyone knows the sky is blue and anyone arguing against that truth should be dismissed as a complete lunatic. But the sky being blue has no impact on anything. It's just blue. Zen is just a guy.

Dont think about the sky's blueness, as always.
Dont watch the male vtuber, as always.

>>65649323
>They "good" ones
Cuck obsessed faggots are ESL nahone

>>65649331
>proof next thread?
how about proof right now, bitch.
From a member's stream: https://files.catbox.moe/7oadnc.mp3

>>65650233
Zentraya isn't even trans. He's a straight male only interested in fleecing money from simps by tricking them into believing he's a woman.
>>65631199

>>65631199
Well thats all I needed. I knew about the "reveal" stuff with that girl because it's literally a zentreya stream. But all the other shit? Rumao

>>65650810
see
>>65650183

>>65626043
>>65647140
There is no hard evidence of anything. The old rrat is that it was two people, a male and female couple operating the model.

>>65651515
You people love sticking your heads in the sand when the evidence is right in front of you

>>65650713
>Member's stream
>.mp3

>>65651570
Post the "evidence" directly then. Only s faggots would be afraid.

>>65651570
Except you haven't posted any hard evidence.

>>65651505
plug it into an archive, newfaggot. You aren't special. I'm not spoonfeeding you, you shit-eating fuck.

>>65647747
>Begger
At least learn to spell if you're going to spew your shithead opinions, ESL.

>>65651654
Only a massive faggot would use a third party archive site.

>>65651654
>Just do all the work for me
Nah, burden of proof is on you to present the evidence here.

>>65651677
>Gets BTFO so badly he has to resort to being a grammar nazi.
LMAO

>>65651570
BTW I looked at the evidence and it just the old boyfriend/girlfriend rrat with a bunch of schitzo rambling thrown in.

Am I one of the few on this board that simply don't give a fuck if a chuuba I like or even my oshi collabs with a guys? Is this controversial? I don't actively watch any guy vtubers alone because they get usually too gay for me as they pander to girls (and gay guys) with gay bait, but some of the hololive/stars collabs in the past have been genuinely pretty funny.
I.e. People will definitely give me shit on this, but the Kronii Vesper collab from awhile back was hilarious. It was enjoyable doing the movie watchalongs with Bae with Bettel too. The monopoly / mario party streams weren't bad either.

Regardless of whether Zen is a guy or not, if the stream content was good, that's all that matters, no?

>>65624911
Hololive is big enough to not need unicorns in Japan.

>most of JP
It literally is the same like in Niji where some shitty people poison the well and the whole branch suffers from it. List all of the homo/e-celeb collabera and you realize those aren't most of JP.

>>65652671
yes, you are the only poster on this board that is into being cuckolded

>>65624911
What happened is EN management stopped drinking stupid juice and then JP management was like "if you aren't going to finish that could I have it?"

>>65652961
The only way you can pretend its not most of JP is if you make a distinction between "would suck a cock on stream" to "has no reservations about collabing with males but plays the victim if you point it out". A lot of the male-free JP's if you want to just split them into raw numbers are also not the most active members and several of the prominent ones who don't interact with males do so because of their hyper-autism, not because they are taking a stance against it. The only reason JP has an image of being for fans of no male collabs is because a slight majority of the prominent faces of the brand are the least likely to interact with males on stream (Pekora, Miko, Marine, Subaru, Koyori).

>>65653432
Same reason why Pekora was forced at gunpoint to collab with a chink rat. Mass immigration and sexual reproduction are now mandatory Japanese government policies and should be promoted at all levels, and that's a good thing.

>>65652671
Men are funnier than women, this is a proven fact.

>>65651515
The woman literally didn't know any of Zen's friends or how to pronounce their names.
She referred to Zen's birthday belonging to the Man and not her.
Who are you trying to fool? Because the only one who doesn't seem to get it is you.

>>65651515
the woman was a local prostitute he hired

>>65651714
What a baffling fucking post. You realize that 4chan only saves threads for 3 days after the thread archives, right? The only reason people can see past posts is because of archive sites, you newfag motherfucker.

>>65652789
Probably this. Which is still stupid since their brand of vtubing doesn't appeal just to unicorns. In the long run they're just gonna end up diluting their group into the wider blob of generic streamers, and being part of Hololive won't mean anything anymore.

>>65651723
The link to the evidence has been presented. You were even spoonfed how to see it. And yet you still ask for more.
You aren't interested in the truth. You only wish to deny that which is real.

>>65652227
>rrat
This "rrat" came directly from their own mouths, shit for brains.
And none of it is even schizo rambling. It's literally one guy using text to speech (ironically) pointing out the discrepancies in what both people said.

>>65653837
You posted a bunch of numbers and demand I do work for you.
That's not how it works.
Post the direct evidence here or say you're lying.

>>65653333
anon if you can't determine the difference between girls and guys talking comedically to entertain an audience for a few hours and girls and guys having sex together or being in a relationship, that's on you and your insecurities

>>65653993
there has never, in the history of vtubing, been an entertaining stream that involved a male. only literal cucks like the fagenabling because they are cucks. no one else likes it because all the tempiss collab streams sucked

>>65652671
If that is your stance on male collabs, then the question you're faced with is whether you think it's right for a man to trick a woman into collabing with him the way Zen did. Regardless of your own stance, Nerissa has made it clear she has no intention of collabing with males, and so Zen showing up on her stream means she didn't know he's actually a man. That seems extremely shitty and underhanded on his part. I would hope that even if you don't care about male collabs, you'd at least understand why some of them don't want to do them and would respect their decision.

>>65654078
Or more logically, Zen is a girl and you're being a schizo.

>>65653948
First, I didn't post them.
Second, they aren't random numbers. They're a post number. The post in question contains a streamable of the video disproving Zen was the woman in the voice reveal stream he did.

>>65653557
retarded cope
If the majority of them doesn't collab with males you can't say "most of them are male collabers"
It's a false statement.

>>65654109
>>65654109
filian does not believe zen is a girl

>>65654140
>They're a post number.
Then you can post what it is then. It's not my job to do your work for you.

>>65653993
Why would I want to watch the woman I like get involved with and become better friends with some other guy than she does with me? Are you fucking stupid? It has nothing to do with sex, you stupid fuck. Although if your oshi collabs with males she definitely is adding them to discord and becoming better friends with them off-stream.

>>65654187
Proof?

>>65654054
This is the factual truth. It's not even exclusive to girls, all boys collabs are also far superior to when women are involved.

>>65654109
How is that logical at all?
Why would a woman need to use text to speech? Why would the woman who said she was Zen not know Zen's friends or refer to the guy's birthday when talking about Zen's birthday?

Unicorn means something different in Japan compared to the EN scene. Fucking EOPS have twisted it and someone gotten it involved in wingcucked culture wars. Now it's more important to oppose males in all forms than to enjoy your oshi. The only relevant letter in CGDCT is the "G", nothing else matters to these faggots.

>>65654190
Posting that clip gets you a ban. I'm not eating a 3 day for a dumb motherfucker like you who doesn't even know how to use an archive.

>>65653737
t. Massive Faggot

>>65654353
lmao, are you underage? Why would you even have issues with archive sites? You're not making any sense.

>>65654338
>I have this super good evidence, but I can't post it!
LOL, so you don't have proof. Ogey.

>>65654233
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H4DtaVF3NkI

>>65654405
Keep trying. I'm not going to post it.
We're at the point where I know you're baiting which means you know about it anyways.

>>65654313
if you watch anything other than virgin girls streaming you are 100% a cuckold

>>65654054
>stating your subjective bias on what's considered good entertainment as if it's an objective fact
You're right anon. I'm sure absolutely everyone else who ever watched a male vtubing stream and thought it was ok is a cuck. The world is always wrong and you're always right. Thanks for your service anon. You're a beacon of purity in this apparently cucked world.

>>65654078
That's a more reasonable position. I can understand that side of things more being a problem than just saying girl guy collab bad.

>>65654218
Why would I want to watch the woman I like get involved with and become better friends with some other guy than she does with me?
They're entertainers with more personality. At least, that's all I see them as. I don't know them on a personal level and they don't know me. I'd get it more if you were talking to them in DMs on the regular, you liked them, and she started hanging out with other guys more. It would suck. But you and I are just viewers.
>Are you fucking stupid? It has nothing to do with sex, you stupid fuck.
What do you think the definition of a cuck is retard?

>>65654443
If this is your 'smoking gun', I'm going to have a sensible chuckle at you. The joke is she' a robot.

>>65653645
>rrat is that Zentreya is two people, a man and a woman
>posts old clips of literally two people talking, a man and a woman
This shit is on par with the mini mouse rrats. Everyone knows about it, yet some gossipy sister comes in and pretends it's a shocking new thing.

>>65654405
>I swear I'm too stupid to operate an archive site like warosu
uh-huh. If you cared enough about this you'd have already figured out how.

>>65654174
Name 21 who do not collab with males and if it's so obvious that it's majority, try using active members.

>>65653675
>the woman was a local prostitute
Aka their girlfriend.

>>65654452
>>65654545
>I'm not going to post it.
Because you don't have proof.

>>65654353
>>65654190
>>65653948
https://streamable.com/isr2qy
NTA. here you go nigger. now when you gloat about me being banned, just remember I am shitposting via optimum wifi and will not be banned at all, but you will still be brown and a tranny

>>65654522
>You're right anon. I'm sure absolutely everyone else who ever watched a male vtubing stream and thought it was ok is a cuck. The world is always wrong and you're always right. Thanks for your service anon. You're a beacon of purity in this apparently cucked world.
this, but unironically

>>65654054
>women
>funny
Wrong.

>>65654662
irys is pretty funny

>>65654187
Counter argument: Fillian is a domestic terrorist on a suicide pact with Pippa.

>>65654522
this is the most south east asian post currently on the board

All I see is Zen with her boyfriend streaming, so your rrat still doesn't hold water.
Also you're an irrational racist, that's also why you don't have credibility.

>>65654542
Did you even watch the clip? Yes, it's two people talking, but the content of what is being said is what's important. I'm not really sure why I have to explain this to you. It seems really fucking obivous.
Zen isn't two people because the woman was there as a catfish. She was there because he asked his female friend to speak as him in his stead and asked her to pretend to be him.
The woman didn't know Zen's friends. She also referred to the man's birthday when describing Zen's birthday. Do you not see how that inextricably shows that Zen is the man and not the woman? This isn't complicated or difficult.

>>65654718
what did he say that was racist?

>>65654662
Outside of vtubing you'd be right. In vtubing the opposite is true. Probably has to do with the kind of guys who'd be willing to larp as anime boys to begin with.

>>65654751
Why are you sealioning now that your big video has proven to be a total dud?

>>65631199
All this really proves is that a man is or was involved in running the account
Which bolsters the rrat that it's a couple

But as this is all footage from 6 years ago, whether they're still together and which one of them runs the account today is entirely up in the air.
All the "this community" clip is entirely without context and could refer to anything.

And I'd personally wager it's the girl unless you think Zen loaded her Switch full of otome games for the sake of kayfabe.

>>65654621
Hmmm. This is certainly a new tactic. Are you posting it now and claiming to be me so that you can claim I'm evading later? It won't work.

>>65654805
its the guy. the girl is just a prostitute he hired

>>65654716
If I was SEA, I wouldn't have used commas or the right form of "you're" instead of "your" lol

>>65654718
Just so you know, I'm not the one who posted it. But you're really illiterate and retarded if you don't understand the points that were made in the video.
>>65654746

>>65654218
>friends
Being overprotective of friends is really stupid.

>>65654878
All I see are Zen and her boyfriend talking, at best. So your rrat fails the basic smell test, again.

>>65654805
The woman referred to the man's birthday which was Zen's birthday. Why are you continuing to ignore this?

>Neuro is literally TTS AI made my a male
>NijiEN's Yugo was a girl acting as a male
>That one super popular vtuber interviewer in JP is a female with a gay twink male avatar
>PorcelainMaid is a male with a female avatar
>All of this are fine enough, or at least seen as "literal who" or "dont care, not my oshi"
If you want to hate Zen, hate his/her dogshit ass forced TTS comms that makes everyones banter in collabs perpetually staggered.

>>65654338
>cannot deal with that
Lmao look at this underage faggot. None of what you said cannot be taken seriously if you have such bad Intel.

>>65654848
Proof?

>>65654922
And? I thought this was the Holoboard, aren't you used to fake birthdays?

>>65654399
Why would anyone want to see old posts?

>>65654912
That's not how that works. Based on the stupid shit you just said, you could always say that it sounds like they're just talking no matter what they say, even if they were to outright confirm everything.
You're purposefully ignoring what it is that they're saying and pretending like it doesn't prove anything when it literally proves that the woman is not Zen.

>>65654851
nah esls use commas because they are homosexuals

>>65654675
Irys was the Adam of chad cast.

>>65654805
>>65654922
I also wanna point out that a certain Omegle streamer turned corpo vtuber, who sounds like a certain demographic known for their love of watermelon and fried chicken, dated Zen and he's very very very straight so

>>65654935
>but the character is a woman
You don't seem to understand.
No one was upset when Norio sensei collabed with Rushia or any of the other holos despite doing so as Inuyama Tamaki, a male avatar. It's because the avatar is just that, an avatar. It's the person behind it that matters.
Zen is a man using a female avatar. He is therefore a male.

>>65654746
>Yes, it's two people talking
Check mate. GG. Good night sir.

>>65655053
who?

>>65655008
Actually it is, you're being eternally ass blasted now that your big evidence was a giant dud and are just repeating your unverified rrat now because you're in too deep.
It's your problem that you failed to provide actual proof.

>>65655059
it was 2 gay men

>>65654943
>None of what you said cannot be taken seriously
So everything I said is to be taken seriously? Thanks?
Hey ESL retard, I know English is hard, but maybe look up what a double negative is before you post here anymore.

>>65654746
You picked one example and then turning it into multiple friends. This is nijisister behavior.

>>65654805
>And I'd personally wager it's the girl unless you think Zen loaded her Switch full of otome games for the sake of kayfabe.
It's literally two people streaming. That's why they stream do much. Even Fuwamoco are starting to split streams like that.

>>65631724
Nerissa is pretty dumb and naive sometimes. She's too nice for her own good. If someone was just like HEY I'M A GIRL/TRANNY I just use TTS, she'd believe them. She's also still stuck in the 2view mindset so she accepts literally every collab because she's so thrilled and can't believe people want to collab with her. She needs to realize she's the big deal in Hololive now and everyone just wants to leech.

>>65655207
its 2 men

>>65638962
Kiara is a coal burner in rl and her fans are cucks

>>65655059
I hate knowing who this is.

>>65655140
I'd believe that if he wasn't possibly the most straight guy in corporate vtubing.

>>65655296
Or, she's actually friends with them and is networking out, like a smart person.
It's a shame blacksanji suspended Selen, it would have been fun to see how they would have interacted. But Zen's trolling certainly carried things.

>>65655207
Zen's personality and mannerisms are awfully consistent for being two people

>>65655207
Fuwamoco have done two solo streams and one 20 minute solo stream in the past 5 months. That's not really comparable. They don't have any intention of splitting up streams in any kind of major way.

>>65655084
Irys, famous streamer of HoloEN.

>>65655296
>She needs to realize she's the big deal in Hololive now and everyone just wants to leech.
Nigga really asking his streamer to grow an inflated ego and stop being so down-to-earth and friendly

>>65655296
>If someone was just like HEY I'M A GIRL/TRANNY I just use TTS, she'd believe them
Do MTFs get the unicorn pass or are they still considered male collabs?

>>65655143
Double negatives are common in English sis.

>>65655422
Considering unicorns still shit themselves when a girl collabs with a gay guy, probably not

>>65655381
Long-term couples are like that.

>>65655207
>>65654805
its a man and a mtf tranny

>In standard English, a double negative is when a sentence contains two negative words to emphasize denial or opposition. They should be avoided in formal writing because they can make your writing unclear.
>I didn’t do nothing.
>It’s important to keep in mind that there are many languages and even English dialects in which double negatives are grammatically correct.

https://languagetool.org/insights/post/double-negatives/

>>65655381
its a guy and his mtf trans brother

>>65655463
Please tell me you do not actually believe
>None of what you said cannot be taken seriously
is a syntactically correct sentence.

>>65655422
>>65655480
trannies are literally men. they just pretend to be women for sexual purposes. see the guys who made the matrix who became trannies after going to a dominatrix or all the trannies who are like chrischan where they become a tranny because they think it will make it easier for them to fuck women

>>65655594
>It’s important to keep in mind that there are many languages and even English dialects in which double negatives are grammatically correct.
Please learn to read the room. This was added on the bottom to appease ghetto apes and their retarded nonsense they call English.

>>65655667
>>65655619
>>65655561
We're observing the /pol/ brain rot in real time.

>>65655633
Use of double negatives to mark emphasis is only common in English sis.

>>65655422
>Do MTFs get the unicorn pass
Setting aside the male collab thing, why would you ever in a million years want to watch a tranny? And why would you want one anywhere near your oshi, be it male or female? They're obnoxious and off putting to listen to anyways with the fake feminine voice that you can instantly recognize as belonging to a man with a male larynx.

>>65655694
t. Illiterate Nigger

>>65655706
Americans hate trannies so much, beer sales for the entire market dropped by 5% to a 24 year low because budlight sent one toon a can of beer back in march. Americans literally joined AA instead of drinking any beer as to not support the troons

>>65655802
Well it's an instant click off for me for them being generally unpleasant to listen to, so I don't get it myself, but I wondered how the deep unicorn logic rabbit hole went.

>>65655785
>>65655823
Double negatives exist in English, but not the one that was quoted. Only blacks talk like that such as "he didn' do nuffin' ". That shit is retarded and you should feel bad for using it. AAVE is not English and it never will be.

>>65655907
I don't like using double negatives. They're a big no no

>>65652671
Not really, you are just brown skinned. Browns don't mind their vtubers flirting with other men on stream, he same way they don't mind their girls having male "friends" on the side.

>>65655907
Ebonics is more common than "standard" English thanks to rap music and YouTube steamers.

>>65651882
In nta dumbass, I just fucking hate ESLs coming in here spewing their shitty opinions. Go make your own vtubers famous and make your own boards in your own shitty languages. Either that or learn how to write in English.

>>65655831
Just shows conservatives thrill on bigotry. No wonder you're looking for anyone to constantly attack, even vtubers.

>>65656071
>Accuses others of being ESL
>Starts off their meltdown with;
>'In nta dumbass'
The hypocrisy is comical.

>>65656071
1. Double negatives are not common in Spanish.
2. Ironmouse got an award at the Dorito Pope awards
3. You are gay.

>>65655954
I understand you're trying to be facetious by example, and that's cute, but neither of the sentences you just posted was a double negative.
"I don't like using _" is a straightforward statement. "No no" is not a double negative, lol. A "no-no" is an infantile way to refer to a single object or concept that is not acceptable.

>>65631199
Even fucking babis have more integrity than this.

Typical Vwhorjo L

>>65656011
Youtube streamers and rappers do not make up the majority of English speakers.

>>65656187
Man you just responded to my joke with a "Well ackshully..."
Unironically I feel like you'd be better on Reddit.

>>65656320
1.3 billion people speak English and most of them learned it via nigger music.

>>65656187
>In rhetoric, epizeuxis, also known as palilogia, is the repetition of a word or phrase in immediate succession, typically within the same sentence, for vehemence or emphasis.

>>65656558
The only people that actually believe this are "melanin-enriched individuals".

>>65656711
It doesn't change the fact that a double negative is characterized as the negation of the idea of the sentence twice, which cancels out the negation. Words like "no-no" do not negate anything or cancel anything out.

>>65655059
Wrong Iluna member anon