/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

>>65523016
is this real

>>65523016
>henya is busy missing collab
>instant rivals
get a grip anon

>>65523016

>>65523650
israel but no one understands why, because we already know Henya was actively trying to contact Nazuna but got ghosted herself

>>65523650
I swear, if Henya spent several months translating every sign in the Minecraft server for Nazuna, only for Mikeneko to invite her to a collab and her to not know that Mikeneko is Nazuna, that would be peak stupid

>>65523016
Ah yes the invite that nazuna randomly brought up in a random apex stream, henya has been begging on stream to collab with nazuna since she joined and even 2 days ago when nazuna streamed she was so excited for a possible collab, i still believe she asked as mike not nazuna

>>65523016
Holy shit

>>65523701
>>65523716
what the fuck why would mike reply like that to henya, it makes her look bad. women are scary as fuck

Anyone that actually followed either of them knows that nazuna u followed henya in early July. So any dm probably would have went to trash.

They also know henya was actively trying to Collab with nazuna but nazuna ignored her and later claimed she didn't even know henya spoke japanese.

>>65523803
It's probably really simple:
Henya wanted to collab with Nazuna.
Mike wanted to collab with Henya as Mikeneko, not as Nazuna.

https://twitter.com/AmemiyaNazuna/status/1740688421553848570

>>65523861
And knowing how oblivious Henya is, she probably didn't even know Mikeneko and Nazuna are the same person

>>65523716
>I swear, if Henya spent several months translating every sign in the Minecraft server for Nazuna
Oh god, I already forgot this happened, you're right.
Yeah, Henya really wanted to be friends with Nazuna, so this doesn't even make sense.

>>65523935
Yeah I think picking a fight with a vtuber who is known to be one of the most friendly is a real bad move

>>65523928
>And knowing how oblivious Henya is, she probably didn't even know Mikeneko and Nazuna are the same person
Next you gonna say she dont know Kson was Coco

>>65523928
You kettlefags will really jump through hoops to make her look better.

>>65523016
brainworms truly are a terrifying thing. Nazuna leaving vshojo is the best result for everyone involved.

>>65523016
Nazuna
>ignored henya for months after debut not even mentioning her or acknowledging her existence
>said she invited henya to a collab on stream once and very likely said collab was the apex tournament shitshow she did as mike
Henya
>asked for collabs on stream everytime anyone mentioned nazuna
>translated every possible thing in the minecraft server just for nazuna
>kept doing it even months after nazuna changed her minecraft account to mike
>said multiple times she sent invites to collabs both in japanese and english in the vshojo discord so anyone could join

I was saying it's not true vsjfags hated nazuna after she left but now as a vsjfag i will hate nazuna , fuck that menhera dragging henya in pointless drama, literally did the same thing silver did when she left and threw all the responsibility on the others when she didn't do shit to try and collab, if she wanted a collab even IF henya ignored her she should've asked again not wayt 4 months and graduate fuck her hope she joins nijisanji

>>65524060
Remember when she played Holocure and literally only recognized Ina? Her track record with JPs isn't much better. She's terminally oblivious

>>65523984
>ignores her privately and pretends to be amicable in public

what the fuck is nazuna's thought process, all this does is make herself look bad. keep that shit behind the scenes

>>65524060
When she played holocure she didn't know seem to know any holo but Ina, Same for Marine when watching a video with a bunch of holos. She doesn't know anything about a lot of vtubers, anon.

>>65523788
because michael has BPD, don't let her resident simp convince you otherwise.

>>65524179
Wow, it's almost like this Nazuna chick is a bit mentally unstable or something.

>>65524105
see? this is why I'm actually happy michael is fucking off, Henya won't have to deal with this BPD cunt anymore.

>>65524143
>>65524196
God that was funny. Even for Henya that level of obliviousness was jarring.

>>65523016

>>65524105
NTA, but other members (I'm sure about Zen, Geega and Froot) tried to contact her too for the entire year. It's either a pretty weird case of miscommunication or another BPD moment.

>>65523016
I always knew Pickmee is a bitch.

>>65524126
>hope she join nijisanji>
kek

>>65523016
>Post your reply
To no surprise the catalogfag baiter is a phasefag

>>65523016
>>65524379
>op is a phasemonkey
classic

>>65523016
KEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEK

>>65524379
not surprising. typical phase fan. trash.

>>65523016
I assume at this point that Nazuna has had a few genuine breaks from reality and just imagines shit.

>>65524446
go back to the farms and never return, feminut.

Come back home Rutyan.. The rabbit and the pirate miss you..

>>65523016
>Pikamee is the kindest Vtu-
ACK

>>65524735
These two only care for numbers and popularity, they just miss the numbers she brought as Rushia

Is not henya fault Mike is a crazy psychotic bitch. The only reason Mike would want a Collab with henya as Mike is because she wants that attention to go to that channel. Even then Mike is still a crazy bitch.

>>65523016
I think I'm going to decide that the passive aggressive undertones here are just me looking at catalog for too long or some translation error from the OP because otherwise this is such an unbelievably shitty thing to say to Henya of all people. Rushia's been fucked in the head for a long time but I can't believe she'd be this actively malicious to someone with nothing against her whatsoever and has consistently tried to contact her.

Who do you believe?
>vtuber who created 0 personal drama and had 0 friends talk shit about her
>most notorious menhera vtuber also known for stirring drama everywhere she goes
Literal coughing baby vs atomic bomb scenario

What happened. Nazuna's leaving?

Reminder that Nazuna blocked Henya on twitter at one point

>>65525125
don't forget that she never does anything wrong, except for all those times she did, but she's changed now, she promised us in the tier 6 unarchived tweetcast yesterday

Henya dodged a bullet, imagine Miguel dragging Henya to a collab with that sex pest she befriended
She's better off forgetting about her and moving on, plenty of better chuubas around to collab with

>>65525159
Lol I wonder why Mike probably had a menhera outbreak

>>65525139
Nazuna is leaving at end of year. She will continue to operate as Nazuna but indie

>>65524126
>very likely said collab was the apex tournament shitshow she did as mike
Nah, that was separate
>ignored henya for months after debut not even mentioning her or acknowledging her existence
She was heraruing for most of May and then had a few interactions with Henya, but was at this point already considering quitting VShojo
Also as everyone else is pointing out, 100% this invite was on Mikeneko and not Nazuna

>>65525159
Seriously? I wanna anti her so much but im just done with drama shit you know? Just enjoying my time with henya everyday just gives me happy and satisfaction vibes. Theres zero point to anything else

>>65525270
Ohh ok, thank you.

Seems pretty pointless to keep the character considering how dedicated she is to her other alt account

>>65525159
She also
>ignored her whenever she raided her
>unfollowed her
>refused to join a collab with her when they were both in the vsj minecraft server

>>65525372
>nazuna ignored henya's raid
This was during a stream in which Nazuna was having a massive fight with her fans. It was so bad that she ended up breaking down over it and crying and apologizing at 4am for treating her fans badly. She was in such a messed up mental state at that time that she wasn't going to notice anything
>when she tried to play minecraft
Nazuna logged in to that stream solo, and at the start said it would be a short stream because she had a meeting. Zen and Henya join about 20 mins before that meeting and Nazuna stays with them right until just before the meeting
>then unfollowed her on twitter.
Nazuna was menhera for the entirety of May and didn't follow Henya in the first place. She got better (unsurprisingly after the massive fight and reconciliation with her fans) and follows her shortly after
You failed in /vsj/ so now you're here, faggot?

>>65525346
Yep. Like a month after Henya's debut Nazuna blocked her and unfollowed the Vshojo JP account for some reason lol

>>65523016
maybe she meant August 2024?

>>65525363
One for each personality.

>>65525346
It's actually inferred from observed happenings
Henya was following Nazuna along with all the other tubers she knew, but one day Nazuna disappeared from her follow list while she was still actively trying to talk to her
These two publicly visible behaviors don't add up so the only remaining possibility was that Nazuna blocked Henya which removes her from her follow list

>>65523016
classic mike

>>65525363
It'd be even more pointless for Vshojo to keep it.

>>65525159
>>65525372
I didn't know she was this batshit, damn. That's kind of sad actually.
I guess Henya really did miss a massive bullet then, what makes me curious is why Kson's name never came up anywhere if she's this spiteful it makes sense that she'd at least throw her name out there although Kson already seems to be on preemptive damage control from the looks of some tweets.

>>65525425
you do realize that, to someone who doesn't know anything about nazuna, this is raising a lot of red flags?

>>65523016
I can see why Kson is trying to wipe her hands clean from getting her hired, Mike wants blood.

Honestly, I don't care about the drama one way or the other, I just wish there was more art of her, Nazuna's design is sexxo.

>>65525425
You could have just said nazuna is mentally ill and we would have understood you

>>65525525
The more dissatisfied with VShojo Nazuna got, the more she drifted from Kson
Makes you wonder if Kson put herself before Nazuna

>>65525425
You keep saying she was menhera but that is not a good excuse to put all the blame on henya with some petty passive agressive tweet when she knows 100% henya tried to collab with her multiple times

>>65525472
Also a reminder that today is the first time Nazuna ever publicly responded to Henya on twitter. Henya kept trying to talk to her in the early months after her debut but got completely shut down.

>>65525533
>>65525586
I don't deny she's a massive menhera. But this idea that she has some weird vendetta against Henya is a LARP drawn up by one or two vsj autists who decided to anti her despite not knowing Japanese or even watching her
Like at the very least, not knowing that she said at the start of the Minecraft stream "this is a short stream, I have a meeting at xx:00 today" pretty much proves the guy never watched Nazuna

>OP IS A PHASE MONKEY
not surprising

>>65523016
>>65523900
>Israel
Jesas

>>65525125
Don't believe that transphobic drama bitch.

>>65525525
Kson has direct communication with her on Line. Everyone else can only DM her Nazuna discord and hope shes it during her bimonthly login

>>65525594
hang yourself third world monkey

>>65525594
>Makes you wonder if Kson put herself before Nazuna
This is just bluntly factual and I can't even blame her for it. I want to say Mike should've done what Kson was doing and working on building up connections instead of burning down every single fucking bridge she crosses but they had two completely different types of success in Hololive and left in jarringly different ways.

>>65525727
Neither of the two have spoken much about the other since early September.
Kson's Tweet isn't really the best look either (talking about herself more than Nazuna), and from what I can tell Nazuna ignored it

>>65525655
I watched that stream, even if she didn't want to join for a short time and because there were i think 3 or 4 people in the colla henya asked to do it next time and she ignored her, it's not a vendetta against nazuna, nazuna is just shifting blame and starting drama and i dont like henya being dragged into this shit

>>65525125
Pikamee acted like a baby and threw a tantrum for months over some people not liking her isekai model. It was far more embarrassing than anything Rushia/Mikeneko/Nazuna has ever done.

>>65524060
henyafags think she doesn't know who gura is, they're that retarded

>>65525655
So what you’re trying to say is nazuna didnt specifically become a bitch to henya. But nazuna is just a crazy bitch in general

>>65525800
She was awkard because she barely knows the VShojo girl. You're reading way too much into this
Honestly she was handling it fine especially considering the girls basically gatecrashed her date with her fans (that's how she presented the stream)

>>65525683
>transphobic
Based fuck them trannies they need to go swim to gaza

>>65525817
Idk about gura but her reaction to a clip of marine was literally
>who?
And she whod some other holo too when playing holocure

>>65525594
She probably tried hired to help her out at the start and realized she was a lost cause.
Almost all of Nazuna’s issues are self inflicted and she refuses to learn from her mistakes.

Why are the they/them crowd seething over henya for the 2nd time this year?

>>65525875
>henya asked to do it next time and she ignored her
Did you forget to read this or was it just something that goes against your narrative?

>>65525966
Hormonal imbalance for taking too much estrogen and in constant pain from cutting their dicks off

>>65525806
Someone didn't watch the stream where Nazuna threw a tantrum and said she wouldn't do her new outfit reveal until she reached a certain amount of viewers (around 30k), shit was weird.

>>65525806
People that write this bait don't realize how clean Henya's record is or how long the list of insane shit Nazuna/Mike has done. There's a reason her thread got bullied out of the board.

>>65523788
Because Pikamee / Henya isn't a full blooded Japanese like what Rushia is.

>>65526063
>bullied
Her fans just left. Not enough people left to keep it up
Like they came back when she did the model debut in April 2022 and the catalog was far more hostile then
>>65526103
The racism rrat doesn't even work because everyone knows Rushia has 1/8th Russian ancestory and was teased when she was younger for having a "foreigner looking face"

>>65525806
Absolutely clueless individual
You just outed yourself as not knowing half of the batshit crazy stuff Miguel has done

>>65525916
She didn't even recognize JP Holo's she had collabed with before, it's extremely obvious that she doesn't really pay attention to Hololive except for Ina.

You can see it with Henya's collab choices too, she's willing to collab with anyone, even FeFe and Pippa because they are friendly to her and that's all she cares about. She's not really very knowledgeable about Vtubers generally and probably doesn't watch them on her own time aside from a specific few that she's a fan of or friends with.

>>65525425
You...realize you aren't painting Nazuna in a good light here, right? Like the excuses you're making just make her seem toxic and unprofessional. Excusing kinda wackass behavior as their usual menhera fits is fucking wild.

>>65526176
>because everyone knows Rushia has 1/8th Russian ancestory and was teased when she was younger for having a "foreigner looking face"
Yeah but everyone doesn't really care about that little bit of information, anon. They care more that Pikmee is a filthy hafu and that is why Rushia ghosted her.

Pikamee should be glad she got ghosted by a menhera bitch and has people that truly love her (pikamee).

If Mike asked for a collab with Henya as Mike, what would have stopped Henya from agreeing?

>>65526274
Not really. I wish she took her meds more often. But she has 6 different mental health diagnoses
Like some Nazuna antis are trying to frame her as hating Henya. It's really obviously bullshit but they're autistic enough to push their rrats on the catalog. I don't really care about admitting she's unprofessional but this idea she was grudgeposting Henya for months is dumb as shit.

>>65526339
not knowing who mike is

>suddenly gets a cool VA job
>massive ego boosts
>starts self sabotaging and burning bridges
Is this why BPD used to be called manic depression

>>65526339 Because she doesn't know Mike?

>>65526325
>he missed the streams of Mike and Nazuna talking about how cute hafus are
Gay

Did people completely forget that nazuna is so menhera even hololive and it's army of managers couldn't manage her?

I've seen clips that imply Henya didn't even know Melody did porn but I'm still not sure if she was just hamming it up for the bit or not

>>65526387
>Like some Nazuna antis are trying to frame her as hating Henya.
Yeah, this was always a rrat. I don't believe she hates Henya specifically, just that she's a natural cunt.
No, I do not accept mental issues or (lack of) meds as an excuse to be a shitty person.

Henya spent a fuckton of time translating every english sign on the vsj minecraft server into japanese just in case Nazuna would show up.

Henya did not secretly dislike Nazuna. She wanted to play minecraft with Nazuna.

>>65526436
Well pardon me for not following her 24/7 like what you do, anon.
You know what I like most about Rushia / Mike? her character model.

>>65526496
She can play with Mikeneko

>>65526485
She said later that she did know about Mel, but didn't understand what Mouse was getting at.
Any time Henya doesn't get something, it's almost always her ESL rather than her literally not knowing what it is.

>>65526387
>But she has 6 different mental health diagnoses
this cope always gets trodded out when she does something retarded. at some point you have to admit she's just stupid or just a bitch with nobody to blame but herself

>>65525806
brown hands typed this

>>65526477
She was fine for years until she made one little mistake while she was extremely panicked.

>>65526485
Henya reacted to that clip later. TLDR was that she "knew" about Melody in an abstract sort of way, but she didn't really put it together what Melody was doing right before the collab until that moment. It's the difference between knowing someone does porn or whatever and realizing that they can't join the collab until they pull the vibrator out of their ass.

>>65525346
>>65525525
The block thing is a complete rrat. The dates that guy is providing doesn't match up with anything I've seen
He's doing the same shit in /vsj/ too. It's one guy who hates Nazuna

I wish nothing but the worst for this mentally ill bitch and I can't wait to see her sabotage herself once again in the near future.

>>65526650
>one little mistake
She doxxed everyone in her gen to some Japanese keemstar wannabe and was completely unrepentant about it.

>>65526744
>doxxed
Cover never claimed it
Mikeneko refuted it (in a statement checked over by Cover beforehand)
>completely unrepentant
Well she didn't regret doing something she didn't do, but she was probably the only party directly involved that seemed to regret her actions at the time

>>65526530
why would anyone do that
not even the Voice Ore girls want to play with her lol

>AKSHUALLY nazuna didn't ask for collab, it was mike and henya is so simple that she didn't know who mike was (everyone and their dog knows, but not henya!) if that even happened nor did she think to google it! You see, nazuna didn't ghost her, it was this whacky coincidence is all now stop talking about it, you're making nazuna look bad! If anything, henya is at fault here, she also threw a tantrum.. once so pls talk about that instead!
...cmon now, you can't be real with this, this is pathetic mikekeks, you're only making it worse

It's obvious which woman is more trustworthy.

>>65526808
Holy cope.

Shant be participating in this drama because its not what Henya would want.

>>65526672
This, that person can't even provide the date source.

>>65526847
Would you want to play with a ticking time bomb?

>>65527032
I wish more people thought like this the last time she was in drama.

>only says that she'll collab with nazuna
>never replies to her DMs or talk with her offstream
I'm failing to see why Nazuna is at fault here, besides airing out dirty laundry.

>>65527032
based but - 5 for the frog posting

Why did he completely ignore Nazuna

>>65523016
Cover was right. Her manager at hololive deserves a raise for having to deal with this menhera

>>65527381
He doesn't have to pretend to care because Vshojo never pushed for 'we are family xd'

>>65527381
He's a guy. Honestly if that's the reason, I have a lot of respect for him.

>>65527381
He actually fucked Nazuna

>>65527381
These bitches can't stop his grind

>>65523016
Y'know, when she was kicked from Hololive, I was thinking that I was afraid that her parents might so worried, that they may force a marriage on her so she can calm down and get off internet.

Now, maybe that's actually a good idea, if she actually have a potential partner

>>65527381
he doesn't care or has anything to do with her

>>65527517
jp twitter is going harsh on her right now so he did the right thing honestly

>>65523016
Wow you're not lying

>>65527381
"Na-WHO-na??? OMEGALUL" -Kuro (real)

>>65523788
Because she is a retard and invited Henya to collab as mikeneko. Henya doesn't know who Mike is so she ghosted her which led the latter to believe Henya as something against her.

>>65527667
Is it really? I thought they didn't like vsj?

>>65523016
so henya is a fake bitch, i'm shocked

>>65524651
she fucking thought a senpai was purposely bullying her by streaming in "her" timeslot in hololive, bitch has actual narcissism

>>65527696
it's more like leaving your job is badly seen in jp culture as unprofessional. It's jp autism mixed with her ex gfe antis

>>65527687
The mental gymnastics of people who would rather think Henya is a literal moron who didn't know the flimsiest PL rather than just accept the fact that she didn't like Nazuna and ghosted her even as she tried to play into her "nice" public persona.

>>65527867
>PL
not now nijifags

>>65526530
after that passive aggressive reply I don't think she will. Henya just dodged a nuke if you ask me.

>>65523016
Fuck off Phasechimp

>>65527867
>rather than just accept the fact that she didn't like Nazuna
But that makes even less sense.
Henya spent ungodly amounts of time translating every single sign on the vshojo minecraft server to japanese, so Nazuna wouldn't be lost if she logged in.
Why would Henya do that if she dislikes Nazuna? Henya definitely wanted to play with her last summer.

>>65527617
I wouldn't wish her on my worst enemy.

>>65527799
>ex gfe antis
Honestly that's not really a thing. Anyone who burns out that way just disappears
When it comes to Hololive fans who anti her, it's usually either
>hating her for the termination
>blaming her for "killing" Rushia
Or occassionally
>being annoyed she avoided mentioning Rushia during the first few months post termination

>>65524179
>what the fuck is nazuna's thought process
BPD/NPD
Whenever she fails it's not her fault, others caused it
Whenever somebody doesn't do what she wants they 100% do it out of malice

>>65523016
WOMEN

>>65527867
This makes no sense. Even the hypothesis of her avoiding a collab with Nazuna out of fear of damaging her brand is stupid since she collabed with Pipkin Pippa which is by far a bigger liability.

>>65523928
That's some bs. NotPikamee regularly streaming on yt before and not noticing who mikeneko is? Kek

>>65528069
Henya doesn't recognize any of the HoloJPs except for Marine.
She was so fucking confused playing Holocure

>>65528004
She doesn't have BDP, though. She's bipolar

>>65527867
The most unhinged rrat, it makes infinitely more sense to view Henya as wanting to collab with Nazuna as a member of vsj instead of as Mike

>>65524126
>Kurosanji
I chuckled a bit

Looking at how all the other members have pretty much already accepted Nazuna was going to leave months before and several of them are just doing business as usual despite her graduation notice, this is probably her attempt at leaving a lasting impression so that she's at least acknowledged in some way instead of being a model that got swept under the rug.

>>65528112
no one here believes you, codependent simp boi. she'll never have sex with you anyway.

>>65524179
Yeah she seems like a normal person would do kek

>>65528069
I'd never even heard of soap cat before I came here, despite consuming vtuber content on YT pretty regularly.
A lot of streamers don't spend a lot of time watching other streamers, so high chance she'd never get any exposure to Mike even if she watched some other tubers.

>>65528130
And yet she never reached out like Silvervale or Zen who collabed with her when she was in Vshojo. Only now when she is leaving, she tweets about wanting to collab with her. Sure.

>>65528159
Anon, you're diagnosing people over the internet. You are legitimately a mouth breathing retard.

>>65523016
Is not that common tactic of Mike?
Lie, screech, start drama just to intimidate others and keep lights on her?
Anybody remember bs she tried to pull with triangle? Or how she tried to tell people that yab in Hololive was just "the one time!" and she's gonna sue them despite TWO cases of her leaking info to dramatubers being public?
Are people really that retarded that they still believe her? What the actual fuck? OP Kill yourself.

>>65523016
BPD screening should be mandatory in the hiring process..

>>65523016
Is this retarded menhera going to say VShojo bullied her too?

Nazuna staying would’ve been a bigger surprise than her leaving, pretty much everyone but the japs are okay with it. I personally think she should just sell the IP if she’s not going to use it anymore. Sad to see good models go to waste even if I’m not into the design.

>>65528256
She never said she was going to sue Cover. Also the Triangle literally has a track record of spreading misinfo about big Vtubers. That's why Nijifans dogpilled her.

>>65527977
Henya very obviously was just saying verbal promises and parroting chat, I doubt she tried to reach out to Nazuna offstream given she ignored her DMs.

>>65528295
>>65528350
You are only making it worse for yourselves and your "pure virgin lesbian maiden queen angel saint" Nazuna. Just stop and let it die, it's for your own good

>>65528350
Didn't Nazuna block Henya on Twitter at one point?

>>65523016
Mike is such a bitch it makes my dick hard

>>65528423
No, lol. The guy pushing it still hasn't offered proof.

People really can't believe that the good girls of VShojo would lie on twitter to make themselves look good as if Froot didn't promise to donate money to charity then backed out.

Reinforces my view a lot of the schizo anti posts on this board are from women, no one hates successful women more than other women.

when you're a retard and wanted to be friend with the cool but bpd and slightly insane neighbors. nothing surprise me here

>>65528503
I'm more willing to believe Henya over Mikeneko

>>65524179
If she knew how to keep shit behind the scenes, she would still be in Hololive

>>65528525
This is a fact regardless of nationality or ethnicity.
>>65528503
Mike is so untrustworthy and mentally ill that it's good form to assume the exact opposite of what comes out of her mouth is true

>>65528233
even if I was incorrect (I'm not) it's still miles better than being a codependent simp to a BPD demon. scum like you are the reason why they're still in the gene pool.

Didn't Silvervale have the same complaints when she left Vshojo?

>>65528503
brown hands typed this

>>65527867
or maybe she fucked up and forgot about it unintentionally because she has a lot of things to focus on

>>65528350
>Henya very obviously was just saying verbal promises and parroting chat
The minecraft server is literally filled with japanese signs, you could see this on all the MC streams. This is not something she just claimed to chat.

>>65528606
something about ironmouse being a fake friend that didn't talk to her for a while

>>65528594
Did Froot make good on the donation?

>>65528637
I don't remember specifics but apparently a higher up in that charity was outed as a pedo so no.

>>65528637
Probably not, I don't give much of a shit about froot or the trans org she was supposed to donate money to.
I dont see how Froot stealing money from troons has anything to do with this unless you view Henya as literally taking orders from her to respond to Nazuna's graduation.

>>65528109
Kinda bad to not pay attention to coworkers it's not like she's some literal who indie

>>65528636
Wait a second... didn't that one also get exposed as a flat-out lie, something about holiday invites

>>65528637
>>65528678
Yeah as I recall Froot got a lot of responses telling her that charity was beans
I don't know why people who may or may not be named Ant keep bringing it up to anti her in light of that part

>>65523016
KWAB

>>65528625
So what? That's something she wanted to do for her own content, she did on stream, instead of tling the signs by herself, she could've just asked Nazuna out and guided her into the server.

>>65528821
Froot was Ant's claim to fame and when that blew up in her face, she didn't have much else to use as a pedestal to success

>>65528841
except she did ask, only to get ghosted.

>>65528821
More than one charity exists, you know.

>>65528896
>i will donate $X of my own money to charity A
>noo charity A is bad
>ok i will not donate
>noo why aren't you donating to charity B you scammer

>>65528896
Either way the "terms" of the agreement, if you could call them that, turned extremely sour in light of everything surrounding that shitshow, all the way down to the choice of charity, so I couldn't fault anyone for just burying that mess

>>65528970
Charity may be gone, but the thing that "she wanted" to support isn't. If she really wanted to honor her promise, she would have found a way. That whole thing was a shitshow of her doing and she only dug deeper. She has no excuse.

>>65528821
>everyone who hates Froot is ant
I really hate this whore defense force argument

>>65529064
that retard ant did more for her reputation than anyrhing else

>>65529057
she "dug deeper" by never talking about it again?

>>65529064
Understandable, but Ant was so fucking retarded that she made other Froot antis look like delusional retards simply for being on the same side as Ant even if there are valid things to dislike Froot for.

>>65529064
Being retarded enough to believe ant doesn't make you look any better.

>>65529108
For example, yes. People will remember how it all ended.

>>65529057
I don't follow her at all so I'm just guessing but maybe she got redpilled on the issue since then.

>>65529207
i don't consider phase viewers to be people

>>65528880
Seems like the other way around

>>65529236
Nice try.

>>65528559
I'm more willing to believe a magic 8 ball over Mikeneko

>>65523788
Mike is fucking crazy. Henya wanted to do something with Nazuna extremely early on, she even mentioned it when she joined. It’s a peak woman moment, god bless Kson but she couldn’t save this bitch.

>>65523016
>isreal
jesas women are so fucking scary

>EOP are the only ones blowing this out of proportion
I'm going to assume that it's just a bad translation and that Nazuna was just trying to tease a collab in the future

>>65529574
Yknow what's even scarier?
There are women with us in the thread RIGHT NOW

>>65529720
Theres no women on the internet unless they’re 2D

>>65529661
DYRBI

>>65529661
If that’s the case then I hope that someone with better understanding of moonrunes can translate it, because DeepL shows the same results. All it does is confirm that Mike/Nazuna is still crazy and that Henya would be smart to avoid her from now on.

>>65524196
>>65524143
>only knows about Ina
I might want to start watching Henya. I'm not really into VShojo, but I can always make an exception for my oshi's friends.

>>65529720
ywnbaw

>>65525425
She's a menhera fuckup

>>65529188
>delusional retards
Because they are. If your only line of attack is IRL stuff in a VT thread you should get the rope.

>>65529849

>>65529661
go read the jp quote tweets on the vshojo jp twitter. they are tearing nazuna a new one. all of them holo jp fags btw

>>65529849
Their collab together was cute as fuck but unfortunately it's probably pretty difficult to get collabs with the big corpos on a regular basis

>>65530010
how do I do that with nitter?

>>65530017
>>65529953
Good to know that they're still good friends even after all that turmoil. Hard to imagine another collab between them anytime soon, but hopefully we get at least one next year.

>>65529661
Bard is telling me that it specifically talks about an invitation sent in the past where the speaker is waiting for a reply.

>>65529372
>Henya wanted to do something with Nazuna extremely early on

>We should collab
>Nothing happens

>>65527993
I'd wife her. Something about not knowing if you'll get your throat slit in the middle of the night is really hot.

>>65530318
you good bro?

Oh god Menhera hags are so great for drama

>>65527867
I don't know if people with the right mind want to get close to her, except they are clueless kek

>>65525346
>>65526672
>>65527041
well it was either henya unfollowed nazuna or nazuna blocked henya so pick your poison
https://files.catbox.moe/zx7fje.mp4

>>65525159
>Reminder that Nazuna blocked Henya on twitter at one point
When Nazuna was in Hololive she was one of their top vtubers so it does seem like she was envious of Henya for being more popular in VShojo.

>>65530010
Yeah but those people sperg out about everything
A bunch of them had a meltdown once because she used a butterfly emoji

>>65530545
Why would Nijisisters do that?

>>65530164
>using ai instead of learning moon runes
weak

>>65523016
What the fuck is going on with this fucking hag? Alien dick can make you this retarded? Wow. Instead of leaving quietly she chose to pick a fight instead.

>>65523016
But Kson said there are no cons being in vshojo.

>>65530775
This wasn't a con of being in vshojo
it was a con of being Mikeneko

>>65530775
she did not
you are a third worlder who does not understand japanese or english

>>65530203
That is understandably hard to do when Nazuna disappeared for months at a time. And Henya seems to have collabed with everyone in the company but Nazuna, it’s more likely it was the fault of a well known menhera like NazuMike feeling envious by a younger, happier woman than it was Henya.

>>65530899
I mean she's literally waiting for a chance to collab with Henya

>>65530917
She said this after streaming for the first time in months
She literally wasn't around to collab with

>>65530917
She probably should have taken the opportunity when it was still present, or set up another time to fit into their schedules. Now that’s potentially yet another bridge Nazuna has burned.

>>65530944
She's been streaming on Mikeneko constantly though, which is assumably where she wants the collab to take place considering what she said in September.
She was already basically on hiatus with Nazuna in August

>>65525594
I hope so. Kson and mike must be like when you help your friend get a job using your connections and reputation, and then they shit all over everything and you realize wait, they're the source of all their own problems.

>>65531056
Kson benefitted a lot from getting Mike in, though. Feels more like she's doing damage control when VShojo ended up being completely unattractive to a JP only streamer.

>>65524173
I wonder who is in the right? the menhera that drives away everyone or the girl that is friends with everybody.

>>65531115
neck yourself chimp

>>65531200
No, you don't understand.
Henya is secretly an evil mastermind and manipulates everyone else from behind the scenes.

Vshojo is without a doubt the greatest agency in the world!!!!
Proof?? Why do you need it?? Cause you a holofag!!!!

>>65523016
What the fuck are you schizos talking about?

>>65531115
It was a mutual benefit for both. The difference though was that while Kson put her nose to the grindstone and received plenty of opportunities by making connections and participating in events, Nazuna did nothing. She just seemed to scare away fans with mental break downs and expected people to shower her with money and views because she used to be Rushia. And then she fucked off for ages to be Mike when Henya was actually doing tons of stuff and steaming constantly. Henya extended a peace branch tons of times to Nazuna, and now Crazy Nazi wants to pretend like she was ignored the whole time? Fuck her.

>Vshojo JP is dead, no stillborn
LMAO

>>65530507
Then why are those people pretending they wanted to be close to her on twitter when she already left except for fake goodie points then?

>>65524179
She was always a menhera, it was contained when she was in holo because the management baby's the talents, the termination made her even more menhera and since she didn't have people babying her she did yabs after yabs.

>>65531422
Mikeneko has been doing pretty well for herself the last few months, though. If anything Nazuna was holding her back.
Bunch of sponsor streams, anime role, joining a big music label. Meanwhile Nazuna got one sponsorship stream, had some sort of sponsorship lost by VShojo staff and some merch she didn't even advertise half of the time
Maybe VShojo are just shockingly incompetent

>>65531422
I think what it is is that Hololive tends to shill its talents to draw people in, whereas VShojo talents have to reach out to expand their audience. They need to have agency to get shit done, and Nazuna was expecting fans to just...materialize in her stream instead of putting in the work. Nazuna lacks the grindset

>>65531502
>and some merch she didn't even advertise half of the time
True but it still sold a bit. It was a bit of income and she didn't have to put a lot of effort in for it.

>>65531502
>Maybe vshoujo is just shokingly incompetent
They don't have any reach in Japan, that's the main problem here, and yeah Mike was retarded to waste 2 years their.
Her ex holo clout is enough to carry her through the Japanese entertainment industry for a decades.

>>65530944
She's been streaming as Mike consistently the entire time. I doubt she would've ghosted Henya behind the scenes if she really wanted this collab.

>>65531665
>Her ex holo clout is enough to carry her through the Japanese entertainment industry for a decades.
I think she's finally starting to realise it, coupled with the fact that it's long enough from the termination that people are willing to work with her again.
She's done 5 sponsorsed streams in half a year and has stated outright that she doesn't do every sponsorship she gets (only the ones she likes), so she should do fine as long as she avoids fighting her fans or male drama

>>65528503
That's some garbage reasoning

>>65531723
>meanwhile, she's fighting her fans and inciting male drama

>>65531422
More like Vshojo offered her nothing.
Ever since she joined Voice-ore she had her first ever seiyuu gig and joined a major music agency Pony Canyon.
Vshojo just can't give her the jobs, collabs and PR work she wants. There is nothing for her to gain being there. Kson accomplished things, but that's her own merits, vshojo didn't help her talk with SEGA, the Yakuza collab was 100% her own doing. Vshojo is not so much of an agency, it's more like a merch middleman, I guess you can argue that they give 3D models, but Nazuna's debut was one of the worst debuts I watched.

>>65531502
VShojo got Nazuna a Nendroid, that's something. I don't really buy the "they fucked up the sponsorship" stuff from mike because she lies too much to take at face value.

>>65531823
I mean something happened that made Nazuna tweet happily about how a sponsorship she was looking forward to (that she assumed was dropped) was still going ahead, and then a week later, she replied to the Tweet to basically say "never mind"

>>65524126
>hope she joins nijisanji
god please make this happen because it would be so fucking funny

What va job did Nazuna get

>>65527032
you already in it by being on /vt/ and posting a reply in bait thread.

>>65531790
Yeah vshoujos 3d was just bad, but it's understandable all major agencies are using their own programmes and using specialised studios to get things done, vshoujo as a US based company simply does not have the ways to get their hands on existing Virtual idol technology that a lot of Japanese Ips use.
That's why Idol partnered with Brave, Hololive is making way to many big moves, if others don't even try to follow the disparity will grow too big.

>>65524126
That would make her the first to go through all three agencies wouldn't it?

>>65532169
all of vshojo's 3d concerts were produced by japanese companies

>>65523016
She's going to delete that tweet within the day, you heard it here first.

>>65532149
https://x.com/KMenrui/status/1729768609260634432?s=20

>>65523788
What indication has Mike the Cat ever given that he is stable or right in the head?

>>65532937
She left VShojo.

>>65532169
vshojo 3d was produced by jp companies, you're just talking out of your ass. kson's one was not bad

>>65531790
that's not how vshojo works. it's agency that help you in YOUR projects to accoplish them and make them reality. it's doesn't offer project. It's just that she didn't have any project for Nazuna and poured everything on Mike. as simple as it is.

>>65533008
Kson spent $67k on hers.

>>65533115
>still talking out of your ass

>>65533158
https://youtu.be/uR5KOfSbDtM?si=DSbSuHvrTiyFZoIR

>>65531790
>Kson accomplished things, but that's her own merits
>Vshojo is not so much of an agency
Retard-chan doesn't know what a management agency is. They're there to support with managerial tasks, not do do her job for her. When Kson had her fan meetup, who do you think helped manage the logistics? When Kson commissions a model or art who do you think is keeping track of the progress so she can focus on important stuff?
VShojo isn't a VA agency, why the fuck would anyone expect them to somehow get Nazuna VA gigs? This is idiotic, that's why it's normal for talents to have multiple management agencies specializing on different things if it makes sense for them. Miguel could've remained in both VShojo and the other one without issues, but she has zero ambitions as a vtuber other than showing up to play a game here and there and that's it, she has no need for VShojo at all.

>>65533199
>concert cost 10mil yen
>she said she spent her rgg prize which was 1mil yen
you didn't even watch the video ESL retard

>>65533008
Kson rented a studio and hired a crew to do her bday live, vshojo had nothing to do with that.

>>65523016
What the fuck does this even mean?

>>65533556
nice bait
https://streamable.com/d7qrax

>>65533515
Is your dumb ass trying to argue that it was someone else's 1m yen after she won it?

>>65523016
Is this supposed to make Henya look bad? Because it's doing the opposite for me, this is just another Mikeneko menhera moment.

>>65533997
>esl btfo
>moving goal post

>>65533294
>VShojo isn't a VA agency, why the fuck would anyone expect them to somehow get Nazuna VA gigs?
Holo got a seiyuu gig for Nene, vtuber agencies getting va work or contracts with music agencies isn't rare at all, holo does it, niji does it, neoporte does it. The only thing that you're right about is that she indeed doesn't need Vshojo.

>>65534139
Ok, big dog. Let's say it was someone else's 1m yen (even though she won it in a contest). What about the other 9m?

>>65533737
It can be paraphrased as:
>I'm going to save face by attempting to hurt yours :)
Once a narcisit, always a narcisit. To think she also spams emotes and shit while doing it to.

>>65534164
nta but you ignored everything important about the post that goes "vshojo supports you doing shit, it doesn't give you shit to do"

>>65534164
And you just proved my point.
> holo does it, niji does it, neoporte does
Those are not talent management agencies, this is a common brainrot in /vt/, and the vtuber sphere in general, because you fuckers really can't tell the difference between actual agencies and media companies.
Holo/Niji vtubers are employees of their companies, when you're an employee of a company the company needs gives you your tasks and tell you what to do.
VShojo/Mythic/MSM/UTA are management agencies, they are there to support the talent's initiatives, not to give them jobs. Learn the difference.

>>65534585
Because that's irrelevant to my first post. I simply stated that Nazuna has no reason to stay in Vshojo, because they can't offer her the opportunities she wants, and they really can't given that a small company like Voice-ore managed to get all the work she wanted in less than 5 months since she joined.
And helping with events is the bare minimun. A vtuber corpo nowadays isn't there just to give support.

Ill take Henya any day over Nazuna. She burned all her bridges, let her stay on yt as indie

>>65523016
Breddy based teebeehaych.

>>65523016
PANKO MANKO

>>65535021
What an idiotic post, what do you think the agency that mike and uto joined is?

>>65523016
based if true

>>65523016
>OP posts this
>retards freak out
meanwhile Henya collabs with Micheal in 2024

>>65535029
And you just once again ignored the point. In how many different ways do we have to explain this to you?
>they can't offer her the opportunities she wants
It's not VShojo's job to offer her opportunities at all, that's not what they do, they do management.

>>65535242
It's a fucking VA agency, their fucking point is to help their talent grow as VAs, including getting them gigs. VShojo is a management agency, what part of that is so hard for you to understand?

>>65535021
Another big issue is liability. Holo/Niji are liable for the actions of their employees, but VShojo/Mythic are not. It's why Holo/Niji require them to get perms.

>>65535490
>mike is leaving because they are not helping her find work
>aieeeee that's not vshojo's problem!!! that's not their job!!!
>okay? that's why she is leaving
>nooooo, reeeee
How dense are you. We are basically saying the same thing.

>>65526477
And she final yabbed when her manager was AFK
They needed a team to observe her at all times

>>65526530
she has tenma for the esl to menhera esl communication theres no need for michael

>>65524126
Not gonna defend Nazuna but even if that's true the average Japanese like Mike doesn't watch Henya. Whatever she does in MC, simply no Japanese notices it at all. So at least that MC part means nothing. You also should stop being a dramanigger. Henya is really just a fully English speaking streamer for westerners. There's no room for japanese on her streams.

Why is her making an objectively good career move menhera behavior? It's not like she's suing Henya.

>>65535902
Brother in Christ, no one is disputing the part saying that Nazuna had no need for VShojo, we agree there, the entire discussion pertains only the retarded bits regarding WHY she had no need for VShojo, and I quote:
>Vshojo just can't give her the jobs, collabs and PR work she wants.
>Kson accomplished things, but that's her own merits
>Vshojo is not so much of an agency
All we're saying here is that it's retarded to expect VShojo to have done these things for her because that's not the job of a management agency. It's you who keeps ignoring that discussion; Mike shouldn't have joined VShojo at all in the first place and should've looked for an agency that actually does what she needed.
It's a (you) problem if you expected people to just agree with the one point you made that was correct and ignore the rest of the bullshit you posted.

>failed jp branch
>shit contracts (allegedly)
>shit merch
>shit concert
>shit production
>lost 4 talents in 1 year
>talents need a second agency in order to get better deals
>its never vshojo fault tho
lmao

>>65537293
The contrast with the Selen/Niji situation is hilarious.

>>65537293
>lost 4 talents in 1 year
>added 4 talents in 1 year
perfectly balanced as all things should be

>>65537293
>failed jp branch
there's no jp branch same as there's no male branch
>shit contracts (allegedly)
if they are shit why are vtubers still in the agency or coming to the agency
>shit merch
subjective
>shit concert
subjective
>shit production
subjective
>lost 4 talents in 1 year
recruited 4 talents in 1 year
>talents need a second agency in order to get better deals
not true
>its never vshojo fault tho
yes

>>65537742
>there's no JP branch
This is cope. The JP CEO and Kson were talking about how they plan to massively expand the JP branch by 2025 at the AX23 panel.

>>65537293
Is it really that hard being a corpo tribalfag these days? Must be a hard pill to swallow, seeing 4 members leave an (actual) agency with no bad effects on either the agency or the talents, just people terminating their contracts and finding better things somewhere else and everyone moving on in peace.

>>65538185
because they want that for their oshi actually but can't have it.

>>65538416
Why would anyone want their oshi to join VShojo?

>>65538515
I swear people here have the reading comprehension of a 5 yo with ADHD.

>>65538515
To own her IP, to do her own thing without management fucking her over, to be among people that would like to be friends

>>65538663
its wilful ignorance or at the very least an unconscious desire to bait

>>65538682
Two of the 4 who left this year said that they were totally ghosted by the people "who would like to be friends". Also, you act like IP exclusivity actually means something when they have much less resources and a smaller audience.

>>65538185
That's not my point at all. I actually think that vtubers being able to leave a agency and keep their IP as a good and healthy thing, but can we at least agree that's funny how is NEVER vshojo fault for anything? Is nazuna a crazy bitch? Yes, but maybe vshojo was also incompetent. Vshojo is a multimillionaire business that's unironically treated like a child by their fanbase lol.

>>65536132
>There's no room for japanese on her streams.
Man who has never watched Henya desperately floats an opinion.

>>65532298
Just cause it always gets brought up, even though she's put down as a "supporting" character on MAL (MAL, lol), her character is on the cover for at least the first 2 LN volumes (haven't checked further)
She's basically the FeMC. The author unironically seems thrilled that they got her to voice Lilium

>>65538972
I don't want to be a contrarian but coming from /vsj+/ I find it hard to agree with the comment that it's NEVER their fault. We throw shit at them very often and call them incompetent hacks all the time, we shit on Gunrun and his backpacks, the clownshow that was the auditions and the Nux drama before that, the joke that was VShojo NEXT which now has -1 members a year and a half after, not making any statements whatsoever during the HP drama, the 11M investment that seems to have changed nothing, talents needing UTA for sponsors, signing Vei (that was the largest mistake of all).
Pointing out that Nazuna should've never been in VShojo and getting VA gigs for her is not the job of a management agency doesn't somehow negate any of that.

>>65539668
Who the fuck is "we"? Half the shit you said ISN'T regularly said in /vsj+/

>>65539668
Eh? Most of that's complete horseshit. Stop playing pretend.

>>65526496
well thats actually heartbreaking what the fuck

>>65540169
It was so fucked, around the time Henya was doing that, people noticed Nazuna had already renamed her Minecraft account and changed the skin

>>65540468
I legit feel bad for henya, she seems like a good girl who is just very very naive

>>65523016
>Henya turned out to be a backstabbing bitch just like people said she was
Shocker

>>65526496
Don't they have the same management? Is their management just braindead incompetent?

>>65538682
>To own her IP
Just pay the artist? The only reason why it might be beneficial for you to have it paid for by a company is when you are not sure whether you are going to give up. In every other scenario you might as well pay for it yourself - VShojo hires only people with existing fanbases, so they always get their money back.

>>65526207
lmao, keep jumping through those hoops.

out of those two I wonder who should I believe in... hmmmm

>>65540851
>backstabbed chuds and refused to become their weapon in retarded culture wars
Based

>>65527867
I can believe that Henya is a functional retard and after doing only react content she dampened even more her cognitive abilities.

>>65523016
She just making it easy for people to justify cover firing her

>>65541745
>after doing only react content
try watching streams