/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

>>65483788
Obviously vtuber related, this is the one she will be playing, there are five others and two of them will be lolis.

>>65483788
How much until the first grooming yab?
My bet is 6 months

>>65483987
I'm still going through the VOD but she has made this clear:
>interactions are only allowed through twitter and youtube
>patreon will be managed by staff, talent have no access to DMs or comments
>no discord where fans can groom the talent
Doesn't mean it's not a disaster waiting to happen though.

>>65483788
>80/20 split
Is this a common revenue split between a talent and their corporate group? Genuinely curious

>>65483788
I'm still confused whether she's actually scottish or not

>>65484681
Not really. A lot of corpos do a 50/50 split (which is pretty predatory imo unless the talents are employed) and then the common "favorable"split is either 60/40 or 70/30, majority going to talent of course.

>>65483788
This woman is too deranged to be trusted with money and power over other women.

>>65484681
I think around 45ish% goes to the talents in holo (that's only the superchat number iirc), and you know how much niji gives. I think Idol bragged about having an 80-85% split towards talents too?

>>65484681
Nope. Usually it 50/50 with superchat, I don't know about merch split in most corps except for the famous N word.

>>65484965
So it wouldn't be wrong to say this is a terrible deal?
Especially if they're monetizing each of those lewd audios and they aren't just ASMR streams. The amount of money from audio packs can be pretty substantial right?

>>65483788
This woman is Fauna, but actually your friend.

>>65484836
The Scottish question confused me for a long time, but the answer is yes. Which means my ears were lying to me for years.

>>65484681
Usually the corpo will take a bigger cut than that, 60/40 in favour of talents is relatively normal. its a pretty great deal, though Riifu’s corpo may be able to afford that by not having a whole lot of overhead, but as a result the talents may not get as much support as other corpos. Still, this revenue split seems a bit optimistic if shes hoping to provide some of the support shes talked about, and she even plans on changing the revenue split to 90/10 in the future.

>>65485408
of course she is

>>65484836
She looks like she's on heroin, so I'd be inclined to think she is.

>>65485474
vshojo seem to supply an army of managers without taking cuts from anything

>>65485474
Oh I see I got it mixed up and assumed the corpo was the one taking the 80%
Can't blame me for thinking there's no way greedy corporations would take as little as 20% revenue when companies like nijisanji exist with their 2% talent cut

>>65485409
>>65485509
But that means she's faked an American accent for best part of a decade which is absolutely insane

>>65485089
IIRC Holo does pay salary so you’re trading a lot of revenue for security and having them foot the bill for production, marketing, and R&D.

>>65485792
yes

>>65485801
But they also get merch, membership and voice pack money - so not too bad.

>>65484681
75/25 to 80/20 on the corporate side is usually the standard for small corpos. They don’t really have a choice though everything is more expensive than it was 4-5 years ago so they can’t do base salary + a percentage like the ogs did. Idol and phase might have bigger cuts though. Kawaii definitely has a bigger cut for talents which is ironic considering their lack of growth. Picking the wrong people ruined them considering how close to hololive they try to be

>>65483788
Not watching the video but based on the notes this is very doable and if she can advertise correctly they might start with a pretty good leg up. Editors and writers for these type of things is actually pretty cheap she either has fans that want to help while offering their services for cheap or people from upwards/fiver on retainer. The only questionable things are talents not having access to patreon, bad idea in general is a bad idea if that’s where the lewd content will go and the lack of access to comments. That said this is pretty much by the books which means she realized Eien wasn’t completely in the wrong. Being in the hot seat really does give you a bit of perspective

>>65485674
How Vshojo’s revenue works is kind of a mystery, I really don’t know what’s going on there. Despite this, Vshojo is a corpo with a much larger audience than riifu’s corpo, plus being connected with twitch, Riifu doesn’t have access to the same amount of resources as them and will have to start from 0.

>>65484681
https://streamable.com/k9y6tb

I don't know the overhead costs of running and supporting a vtuber agency. Assuming they only provide the live2d model and technical support, it sounds like a 20% cut would cover those initial investments pretty quickly if you add up the sales of 4 ero voice packs * 12 months * x amount of whores. The rest is just squeezing passive income from these hoes, who might as well be indies after the initial training arc.

>>65483788
80/20 seem a bit harsh, unless the group pay everything for talents

>>65486170
>How Vshojo’s revenue works is kind of a mystery
no it isn't. they take less than 50% from merch and sponsorships they arrange.

>>65485792
She out-schizo'd her own fans. It's hard to put in words just how impressive that is.

>>65484681
Niji is famous for their 2%

>>65483788
She is pretty. I like her eyes.

>>65486103
Anon, OP's split is 80 to talents, 20 to corpo, rising to 90 after one year.
Kawaii split is 50/50

>>65486298
>>65486457

>>65486170
I would imagine that vshojo doesn't have much of an operating cost.

>>65486170
>will have to start from 0
Not exactly. They're limited by the fact that she's bankrolling this personally, but she has fingers in so damn many pies you wouldn't believe it. Name a chuuba and she's only a few degrees removed, I guarantee it.

>>65486451
This is 9/10 in Scotland.

>>65483788
The “company” will be dead under 2 months tops. This autistic menhera couldn’t even keep it together as a regular vtuber let alone managing others

>>65485792
There are a few vtubers that fake american accents to appeal to the us audience.
>>65484681
It's extremely, extremely good and any woman that's okay with whoring themselves out for money should strongly consider applying.

>>65486922
Counterpoint: no, it won’t be.

>>65486297
there might not be much overhead to keep it running but the initial investment for top tier models and riggings is very expensive. A 4 whores squad will cost around 20k dollars.

possibly controversial take: no corpo is worth joining if they don't have you on as a salaried employee.

>>65487057
No corpo is worth joining if it's not hololive

>>65486299
I’ve heard many variations on what the vshojo revenue split looks like, the initial rrat I heard is that they take 100% from merch but 0% from everything else. The point kind of still stands though, Vshojo can afford this sort of revenue split because they started with plenty of resources (in comparison to the smaller corpos) and already established talents that helped bolster the brand, Riifu will likely have to build the brand from scratch.

>>65487001
Retard

I don't think Riifu is sane enough to keep this going long term

>>65483788
this bitch is way to ugly to have this many simps

>>65483788
Seems doable and there are no shortage of willing customers. Remaining yab free will be the hard part. If the quality is high enough they may be successful. Plenty of Eop niggers have no clue as to what a true AVtuber agency like Emoecchi ,Masquerade, Pink Punk Pro, or Kemonomimi Reflet with actual jav actresses/soap girls/ delivery health/ papa katsu/ general actual whores with onahole product lines and pay2play whale tier parasocial agencies are even about, so I expect it to have a rough start developing a routine and successful revenue generation in the short term. Long term if everything goes well it could be quite lucrative.

>>65485792
It makes sense to me. English vtubing is overwhelmingly American, and having a distinctive accent just gets you typecast. You can see how everyone knows Saruei as the French vtuber despite the fact that she does not lean into her Frenchness at all.

>>65487205
You clearly haven't seen her ass

I remember when ritards didn’t believe Riifu = DTL/DTW = pwupster = Exoe
Until someone posted a screencap of her second fucking stream as Riifu doxxing herself as DTL lmao

>>65486298
lol how is it harsh? people were singing idol's praises for their 75/25 split

>>65487205
All it takes is attention, burps and farts

>>65487127
I honestly agree but that's not going to stop a bunch of young girls from trying to shoot their shot at potential fame. Majority, if not all, small corps are predatory and end up collapsing internally. And more often that not, the corpos do not implode without drama or fucking over someone. I can probably name dozens of english corpos alone that popped up and then collapsed within the last 2 years.

>>65487131
https://streamable.com/wdwzg8
the source of the 100% rrat was unironically an ESL moment in the numbers thread.

>>65486170
1.100% cut from merch produced by the company
2.50% cut from merch produced by the talents
3.0% cut from Twitch gifts
They definitely have better employment conditions than Niji, but in a close race with holo.

>>65486298
80 to talents, 20 to corpo, anon.
>>65487302
Idol's revenue split is 60/40

>>65485792
I know a streamer who's scottish and he naturally picked up a more american sounding accent because he spent all his time online.

>>65485290
She put 30k+ of her own money into it already and presumably the talent won't make any money to take 80% of.

>>65487415
>>65487372

>>65484681
Exoe is claiming the reason for the generous split is because she will be a talent herself that will have 100% to herself.

>>65487001
The weird amount of detail she put into it for her drunk stream is a red flag. She has an idea of how things should go and we'll see how she reacts when that doesn't happen.

>>65487131
Kson explicitly denied the 100% merch cut thing so we don't really know the true numbers.

>>65486922
I bet you were shitposting when she first started talking about starting a corpo. Now it's happening and you're scared of being so wrong.

>>65484965
>50/50
>predatory
bait?

>>65487629
>>65487372

>>65487537
So is it 80 for the talents and 20 for her?

>>65487296
Sounds dubious.

>>65487537
that and she wants to enjoy the irony of the whorecorpo being the most ethical company in vtubing

>>65487733
Yes

>>65487654
>couldn’t even keep it together as a regular vtuber
Nigger, she streamed everyday with two members only a week when she was Riifu.

>>65487805
>two members only a week
Two membership stream every week. Fixed it.

>>65487796
So she's gonna run her own vtuber stream and she said she would go into the other girl's channels and do all the behind the scenes shit for them after dumping a bare minimum of 30k on this for 20% of maybe nothing? The explosion if this doesn't work out is gonna be legendary.

>>65487471
more like 70K at her last estimate. That's a lot of coombux. On a more wholesome note, she also said she used her whorebux to save her parents house from being taken by a bank.

>>65487966
If you're a dad that need to be bailed out by your daughter's whorebux that's not wholesome that's incredibly shameful. That sounds like the plot to an ntr manga.

>>65487672
No its not bait. I think it absolutely is predatory when you consider the size of these companies and, like I said, if the talent is not an employee that could be super exploitative. Something that makes a company like Hololive not predatory is that the talents are employed and earn a salary. Most of these corpos aside from Hololive provide fuck all if its not music videos or infrequent model upgrades. The average 2view to 3view small corpo talent likely doesn't make minimum wage.
VTuber corpos definitely rely on having the right rules and regulations to adhere to the culture of VTubing, and if a talent isn't an employee, is only making 50% of donos(after youtube cut too), and is having to follow rules and stream requirements, the company is definitely preying on them. And with the theme of most of these corpos being run by people who want a quick cashgrab and a harem, its way more likely than you think.

>>65486170
they have vc money to burn through https://www.tubefilter.com/2022/03/16/vshojo-seed-round-funding-ironmouse-vtuber/

>>65483788
Postin in the avtuber corpo thread. I'm excited for the ink girl.

>>65487805
and flamed out and had a schizo meltdown after two months

>>65487013
In terms of startup money for a business, that's nothing.

Assuming 20% cut to the corpo, they would require each slut to make $2080 / month minimum, across all revenue streams to cover that 20k within one year.

That's not even counting that she herself will be one of those sluts on the roster, so the initial costs can be covered even faster.

>>65484965
>>65485089
>>65485205
>>65485474
>>65485723
>>65485801
I’m starting to believe this board doesn’t actually watch any streams and just parrots what they read in the catalog. Most corpos do not give a 50/50 cut and almost zero corpos have a set cut for everything.
>Channel revenue ie ad sense, supers, and members run from 20% to a max of 38% as yt takes a base 30% if you’re in America or 24% worldwide for tax purposes (and their salary). This shakes out to around 80/20 to 50/50 cut depending on the corpo even though it’s not actually that amount. More accurately would be 50/20/30, 35/35/30, 50/26/24 and 38/38/24. Technically you can contact team yt to drop that to 0% but then taxes will fuck you. It’s why corporations seem like their scamming talents in the beginning.
>Next is outside funding like streamlabs generally 75/25-40/60 (talent is second number)>>65485674

Now we go to merch where numbers are a bit shaky.
>These are divided into 3 numbers sponsored merch like uwu market, goodsmile, etc, next is standardized merch like buttons, acrylics, keychains and finally we have specialized merch body pillows and whatever you find on a hololive girls birthday. Sponsored merch is split 3 ways between talent, and both companies no solid percentage on that as that’s under contract seems decent though.
>Then you have the standardized shit where the infamous niji 2% comes from but not so fun fact holo standardized merch isn’t a big cut either don’t know how small but it gives them less than a super chat of the same price so less than 30%. Seems to be the same for small corpos with some cases they outright tell their fans not to buy it because it won’t really support them which I feel is wrong.
>Then you have specialized merch think hololive birthday merch or niji holiday merch. These are 50/50 in hololive and the biggest lump sum for them because they plan, help design (in some cases actually design), and most importantly foot half the bill. Niji’s do have input on holiday merch and they actually advertise them so it’s assumed they do get a bigger cut but you have to be lucky to get picked for it. Other corpos do it similar to nijisanji so the assumption is the same. We only really have solid numbers for Hololive as they’re the only ones who do it consistently and for everyone
Then there’s the extras your vp, patreons, and the likes. These are 50/50 they cost nothing to make and/or set up with little taken from the hosting site. In rare cases (not really vtubers) patreons go 100% to you in exchange for a smaller channel cut. Sponsors also exist but this again can only really speak for Hololive and Nijisanji as far as vague cuts go but I can give the rates. This is as close to a breakdown as you’ll get.
Also unless a corporation is doing shady shit I usually side with them because for the talents it’s a bad experience but for the guy that failed it’s either bankruptcy or loans he can’t pay off effectively ruining his chances at future success in the best case scenario or his life in the worst case.

>>65483788
I feel like she should have just debuted as an indie, I can see her getting popular (as Riifu showed) just because she's so experienced/likeable but I really don't think there's enough interest to support any of the others
Plus her way of being an 'honest whore' is pretty unique and I doubt she'll find 6 others who share her mindset

>>65488126
Traditional vtuber small corpos are dying out besides Phase.
Creator orgs that have existed before vtubers, which Vshojo and 3AM are modeled after, will probably become the standard from here on out.

>>65488401
This post reeks of a VTuber company CEO.
If your talent isn't an employee, I'm completely confident you're a scumbag.

>>65486457
Oh then that’s unsustainable. She’d need all 5 to be pulling at least melody tier numbers with Nene from kawaii tier pay pigs. $2 for every $10 they make when a top talent at a small corpo pulls in about $10k a month. She wouldn’t even make back the investment on the models and iPhones until 7 months from their debut assuming all 5 could match Ophie or Cheri from vreverie.

>>65488477
part of her motivation was girls asking her all the time for advice
https://youtu.be/fwTClRr1x6g

>>65487919
She has staff hired for the management side of thing as well as video editors, clippers, audio people etc. I don't know how she achieved that.

I wish I never seen her face

>>65485792
>>65485409
And now apparently she lives in Australia...what the fuck?!

>>65487358
You most definitely cannot. Maybe western* but not English

>>65487057
Interestingly enough that’s how niji and holo started before they started making so much money a salary was literally a detriment. Most corpos can’t afford that though because everything is more expensive now

>>65488825
>Now
She told everyone about that in a stream years ago. Janny, don't bonk me for public knowledge pls. Also, she's moving back to the UK.

>>65483788
>>65483877
look at those dead soulless eyes

>>65487372
It wasn’t an esl moment, this isn’t even the right question, and finally the contracts are different person to person at vshojo. It’s why the 3 that left felt like they were getting scammed

>>65488885
if they don't have the money, they shouldn't start a corpo where they take so much of the talents' money. defeats the purpose entirely of being in a corpo if they company cant support you. Just be indie.

>>65484125
>>65483987
If she knows how to do one thing its creating lewd content online. She's been doing this for years, runs multiple persona's/accounts simultaneously and makes as shit ton of money from it. I reckon she can pull it off, she even said she's not the CEO for the company and that there's someone more experienced doing that, she know's what she can do.

>>65487794
It wouldn’t be close to the most ethical and it won’t even be the most ethical whorecorpo

>>65489072
>It wasn’t an esl moment
i was literally in the thread when they came up with it
>and finally the contracts are different person to person at vshojo
merch cuts are different but they are all low enough that everyone only sells merch through vshojo now. the last one not to was that mouse apari collab i think, like 6 months ago.
>It’s why the 3 that left felt like they were getting scammed
incorrect

She’s said in her stream she has already poured 50k into the corpo, 5k-8k being spent on the model alone, same artist for all for consistency, and same rigger. She expects another 20k+ to be poured in when she pays for advertising and watchalongs. She mentioned in passing that one of the girls overlay package was 400$ plus. She is also giving a silly little 420$ as a sign on bonus when they finish predebut preparation.
Soe will get 100% of her earnings,
Gen 1 will receive 80%. After renewing their contract after a year it will be a 90/10 split, and Gen 2 is already being conceptualized and will start off with the same 80/20 split in 2025, as she plans the gens to be a year apart.
They get content management, talent management, assets, graphics, and more. They also get to voice in a hentai video game. There’s more I’m too lazy to summarize.

>>65486297
i wish people would stop using this outdated shit coco said as an example.

>>65488825
This has been public knowledge for like a year or more.

>>65489368
Hololive wouldn't be able to function if their cut wasn't around that much. They have 300 employees.

>>65487966
Not wholesome at all her father has now failed 3 times in life and 70k is a big number but for perspective almost all the big corpos had loans of at least double that to start. She better prepare advertisements

>>65488293
It’s actually 70k+

>>65489510
>They have 300 employees
it's genuinely sleazy how they contract talented women to prop up their failed homos and disastrous game development team

>>65488532
Idk what’s more retarded that you think a vtuber ceo would be on 4chan late into the night/early into the morning when a good portion barely speak English or the fact that you’d be calling Yagoo a scumbag as well considering holos aren’t employees

>>65483788
>no trans people
based

>>65488477
There are other ‘honest whores’ even if it is an oxymoron

>>65487919
She makes a shitload of money anyway. Last available data for her Patreon she had over 3k patrons and she has grown decently since then, her lowest tier is £4.50 which is like $6, so she's making a ton from just that. She also has Fansly/onlyfans. A decent sized youtube channel and a massive hub account that averages over 500k views per vid. Adding all that together she is making bank.

>>65483788
>>65483877
who tf is this uggo

>>65489935
fagoo is absolutely a scumbag

>>65489142
Tell the girls to stop joining corpos retard. And genuinely what do you consider support give an example?
To save myself time because I know what you’ll say. You’re wrong you don’t even watch them if you’re thinking that

>>65484681
Niji and Holo are 50/50
I think Idol is 85/15
Not sure about Phase but I assume they're 70/30 or something

>>65490060
I hope she finds those good honest whores who just want to get paid and do good whoring and don't do any bad whoring. Makes perfect sense.

>>65489292
You weren’t in the thread because they got it from the kson stream. It literally can’t be an esl moment because her English isn’t that good despite the fluency

>>65489252
Oh if she’s not the CEO the cuts make more sense but the person taking the job doesn’t

Wildest dream that'd never happen:
>successful enough for a JP branch.
>Poaches Noel and Karin.

>>65488751
That may be true but she also said in the stream she would log into your channel and do shit for you.

>>65490365
Idol is 75/25 based on the chart they posted to twitter, however about 15% of the talents revenue goes straight to funding for projects so the chuubas only pocket about 60%, still solid mind you but not absolutely incredible. I think Phase also gives their talents about 60% but they haven't been as open about that so i'm not 100% certain.

>>65490693
i was there. they translated "buy vshojo merch if you want to support them" into "vshojo takes a 100% cut". i was making fun of them for speaking neither english or japanese and they ignored me and went with their completely fuckin retarded rrat. nobody would sign a contract where they get literally nothing for licensing their likeness holy shit why does anyone believe that shit.

Always wondered about potential AV tubers, should be interesting to see how this pans out.

>>65490853
Dream big anon

>>65490125
I wouldn’t say she’s making bank but she definitely doesn’t have to worry

>>65490642
Look up oxymoron

>>65490966
It’s not 75/25 then that’s called fudging the numbers. Niji would be 80/20 and hololive would be 95/5 by that logic

>>65490984
If you translate another language into English even if it’s incorrectly that’s not esl you retard. And that’s not what was said they said merch handled through vshojo gives them most of it but merch they take care of they get most of it like kson’s cafe shit. You’re trying to hard

>>65483788
Predict how long till these "vtuber" start streaming in flesh like normal streamer.

>>65488401
>Then you have specialized merch think hololive birthday merch or niji holiday merch. These are 50/50 in hololive...
Do you actually have a source for this because I have only ever heard that the cut depends on how much they invest themselves but I've never seen anyone give actual numbers.
Since this is the catalog I'm expecting this to either be blatent misinformation or jumping to conlusions from what Kson said

>>65491490
literally nothing kson said in either language implied that vshojo gets 100% of the merch profits. you don't speak english eiither. shut the fuck up.

>>65491490
I'm just repeating what they said, functionally its still more like a 60/40 with some added support for projects, arguably above average even considering this, but not as incredible as it initially seems.

>>65483877
Look at that chiseled jaw

I like to listen to the audio of her masturbating every so often so I'll support her new corpo, I guess.
Anyway, does she have any actual nudes?

>>65490992
Asmr thread or lig. You didn’t hear it from me

>>65483788
we discuss vtubers here, not fleshtuber e-whores.

>>65491908
She'll be expecting this from the girls too.

>>65491530
I do remember someone giving a number either lamy or pekora. Maybe the numbers thread will have more information

>>65490316
Exposure, sponsorship and collab opportunities, content management, promotional material, brand guidance, asset support, legal support, monetization support, training, frequent feedback, audience engagement(on the company's end), marketing research, analytics research, all the things that indie vtubers need to do but could be handled by management so vtubers can just focus on their live content

>>65491530
Isn't the specialized merch situation just about hololive? Are there vods/clips of Nijis talking about being able to invest in specialized merch? I remember one of the big stinks about Niji merch was that the talents couldn't invest into merch.

>>65492089
how much of a coomer do you have to be not to find this repulsive?

>>65491653
>Eiither
Misspelled words bad grammar and the inability to read. This is the guy lecturing on English. Where in my post did I say 100%? Where in my post did I say the translation was correct? Why did you not explain how translating a language that isn’t English could be esl? You drooling retard

>>65492246
I don't know enough about Niji to know but I've not heard anything about it before. I was just quoting that anon

>>65492089
I love this woman.

>>65492467
what the fuck are you even talking about? don't reply to me anymore until you learn this language. and commas correctly if you want to pretend to be a grammar nazi.

>>65492392
This is the same account where she uploaded audio of her jilling off by the way.

>>65483877
>>65483788
did dream troon out?
meh 4/10

>>65492211
I wanted an example with a corpo that you felt embodied it but I’ll do it myself. According to your standards the companies that should shut down are wactor, hololive, tsunderia, and cyberlive. Tsunderia and cyberlive is also tentative as I don’t know much about them. Most of the other corpos do 90% of this including the black ones that torture their talents. Hololive would be closer to 75% at most not even reaching the cut off

>>65492392
I'm probably a coomer and this doesn't really do anything for me, feels a little cliche and overdone, I've probably read all this dialog across several doujins.

>>65489735
>”I hate how businesses use revenue for R&D”

>>65488401
you are replying to a shill from that slut
said slut has a council of /here/ catalogfags feeding her all that misinformation as factual
I give this grift operation 2-3 months

>>65493110
>I hate it when corpos waste my oshi's money on worthless projects and pestering the customers with content they will never enjoy

>>65491944
That's a Vtuber corpo CEO

>>65483788
>Can’t cut it for longer than a month in a small corpo
>has the skill and discipline to manage 1000s of dollars in a startup + stream herself + tardwrangle the other talents
I just really doubt it. I mean, all the best to her but intellectually I just know this will crash and burn.

>>65492246
Yea they don’t get to invest but on holidays like Valentine’s Day, Halloween, white day, etc they get specialized merch. It’s not for every talent and some talents can end up doing multiple holidays. The biggest difference is they actually advertise the merch more than once which is why people believe they get a bigger cut on it. All the times they brought up 2% was in relation to the basic shit which they never talk about after release

>>65493110
i'd rather my oshi get a lot more of my money than pay for some nerd to make a game i'm not gonna play

>>65492641
>and commas correctly
>what
>? don’t
>nazi

>>65493414
how about THREE HUNDRED NERDS and none of them are working on getting perms sorted in a timely fashion, fixing the broken and jank 3D they supplied years ago at this point, doing motion capture for events or in any way supporting the talents who pay all of their salaries

>>65493174
Your oshi is an employee at a company and her job is to find ways to get as much money from as many men for that company so it can be spent on shit you don’t care about.

If you’re going to complain about digital pimping, complain about something valid. Revenue being spent on trying to do cool shit is probably the best case scenario. All of the talents are richer than any of us.

>>65493414
>>65493174
All that money to end up forming a partnership with a fan game dev. They could’ve set up deals in America and Europe to rent studios with that money. Yagoo needs to take a brick to the face

>>65483788
>with four NSFW audios a month required,
HOLY BASES Riifu! If it all goes as she promises, it might actually be the first vtuber corp worth opening my wallet for.

>>65493651
I fucking wish they were doing cool shit, instead they're wasting everyone's time and my oshi's money and pumping out generation after generation of homos that no one on earth wants to watch. Cover is a piece of shit company and Yagoo is a faggot.

>>65483788
I hate this fucking whore like you couldn't imagine

>>65493651
Cool shit would be live concerts or special events outside of Japan. CtW was fucking prerecorded but Watame was able to perform live in Singapore (she sung her heart out to with that performance)

>>65493811
kek did you crank your hog with all the other riiflings?

>>65493899
no, way before eien, she has always been a grifter and a whore

>>65493778
Anon these vtubers already exist in the language of your choice. English, French, Japanese, Korean and even Chinese

>>65491513
day one
its literally the pivot clause OP is not showing, in case(as as expected) the avatar doesn't attract enough coomers
The models so far are IdolEN-tier and only one of those is passable as an adult.
It's funny to me how """GFE""" devolved into twitch thottery

>>65493572
Hate to ruin the illusion but chances are your fave is a socially retarded womanchild that does not have the social skills or business acumen to do any of the cool shit she does without management making it happen; definitely could not do it faster than 300 JP salarymen.

You’ve become accustomed to the Hollywood of VTubing and think that everything’s free and instant and your oshi would be better off alone. They really would not in 99% of cases.

>>65493990
How can she be a grifter when 86 of her 72 personas are still active?

>>65483877
>2 lolis
3 would have been perfect but 2 is fine as long as they deliver on the lewd stuff. Eien gen 2 turned out to be disappointing in that regard.

>>65494056
>definitely could not do it faster than 300 JP salarymen
I'm pretty confident anyone could do anything faster than 300 JP salarymen

>>65494056
I said none of that and I'm not sure why you're damage controlling for Cover. My oshi could not provide 3D events for herself, but Cover could do a much better job if they weren't focusing all of their efforts elsewhere. hololive isn't the Hollywood of vtubing, it's the equivalent of Disney, and they'll kill themselves with the same hubris that MBAs typically bring to creative fields

>>65494097
you mean the one where she pretends to be "a virgin an a looser just like you frfr" (inb4 I'm not talking about riifu) or the one where her boyfriend spanks her and she talks about how much she enjoys unprotected casual sex

>>65483788
>Lolis doing lewd ASMR
Gonna nut

Shit, I just read the 3 streams a week part. That's pretty low but I guess if they have nothing else to do they are free to stream? They would earn more money that way after all.

>>65483877
bros I love her so much...

>>65494267
>you mean the one where she pretends to be "a virgin an a looser just like you frfr"
There's also one where she pretends to be a bunny, you know that's fake too, right?

>>65494443
and you don't see how that's different
I'm not talking about roleplay to be clear, she wasn't playing a character

is she going to look like Fauna?
I only liked her because she was a lewd version of fauna

>>65494520
>she wasn't playing a character
well if she wasn't a virgin she was definitely playing a character you dumb ape

>>65494327
It's just the minimum requirement, most will probably do more. Riifu's hopes is that her talents become full time streamers 3 months after debut

>>65494443
I see. Does she use her bunny roleplay to attempt to relate to her audience? Or is saying "I am a rabbit" somewhat different from saying "I am similar to you"?

How does Riifu triggers the trannies so much?

>>65494285
Alright i need more

>>65494979
trannies are the ones consuming this trash. trannies are coomers who coomed so hard they decided to become the coom.

>>65495178
tranynynynyyy ngoc hue thuc duy thanh ca tram khuc nha xua lien khuc mua thuy hoc tam giao dong tran khoa hoc van lang duy

>>65494285
Someone need to explain to her the power lolis have. Its wasn't by chance that Gura got as big as she did.

>>65495328
Kys vietnig

>>65495178
Only trannies get mad at coomer stuff. Real men enjoy it and women use it as means to make easy money.

>>65483788
its a good experiment, there are already a lot of them in japan, its time for the west to catch up, the problem is that western women are extremely pathetic at being erotic with bad acting and shit scripts, all of them have to depend on interaction like melody did to grow, we will see if she is smart enough to make her corpo a thing.

>>65495394
There are 2 loli models

>>65495497
hmm no I don't think that's true anon, I think you're either a tranny or an aspiring coomtuber. This shit is gross, and real men look down on prostitutes.

>>65489298
those profit splits seem unsustainable unless shes gonna run it extremely lean, like with only her and maybe one manager

>>65495452
tran con cho tu nha toi

>>65495633
>like with only her and maybe one manager
I've been watching vtubers for half a decade and still don't understand what managers are for, seems pretty feasible
>>65495625
>real men look down on prostitutes.
depends on the position

>>65495178
>>65495625
Jealous woman spotted.

>>65495908
If that were true you’d have seen a time when managers were more involved not just faceless spirits

>>65483788
Anyone have the silhouettes pic? Apparently there will be some sexy teen and loli models.

It may have been short, but being a Riitard was one of the best experiences in vtubing I've ever had, and I've had a lot.
When the time comes I shall answer the call, penis in one hand and Fezi Joose in the other!

>>65496355
Someone else posted it I’m pretty sure

>>65495908
>what managers are for
wrangling menhera talents is absolutely critical in small corpos, the fact that this will be a coomer corp only makes it more important because the fans and talents will both be even more deranged than usual

>>65495625
>tranny
thats only like a 1/6 of them, i will include incel/single women, male virgins under 25, males with mommy issues and/or without a father figure, anybody actively religious and faggots.

>>65495178

ok interesting and i'm looking forward. but pls tell me this shit isn't another twitch only corpo garbage

>>65496584
One anon posted a part of a transcript or paraphrasing and it seems like youtube

>>65496047
I remember a manager filling an empty slot in a Left 4 Dead collab
Otherwise they mostly seem to prevent talents from doing things, so they can perform these same things worse than the talent themself.

>>65496355
The ones on both ends are the lolis.

>>65495497
Zoomers are the new puritans desu. If someone doesn't look 30 it's pedo.

>>65496378
It really was a surprisingly great time.

>>65496909
>an ojou sama will be licking my ears
fuck

>>65496584
Shit I didn't even think about that. I hope YouTube.
>>65496909
The silhouettes look legit pretty nice. Hopefully their voices are nice too.

>>65496909
the middle one looks like she could be sex

>>65488126
Does hololive provide a salary? Is this confirmed or is this something that people assume because of something one of the girls said, just like how people assume that cover has these girls doing paper work because they say they have work to do outside of streaming

Before i read the thread, is this a gooning thread or how to run a corpo thread?

>>65495625
Are you actually retarded or shitposting for no reason? I can never tell with you faggots.

I don't care about ear licking just give me the masturbation. Give me the sloshing wet pussy fingering sounds. Give me the piss sounds. Give me the loud squirting after a long and violent fingering session.
That's what this world really needs.

>>65496584
Said they aren't streaming on Twitch. Will be Youtube, Twitter, and Patreon. Also mentioned kick but didn't expand on it.
Was asked if they can stream on Chaturbate and Fansly. Said she wouldn't stop the girls if they wanted to, but doesn't expect them to, or recommend it.

>>65497353
read >>65489298
tldr the lewd green woman aka riifu started a lewd corpo

>>65497491
Based and I think Riifu will deliver that for us.
Now that I think about it, it's crazy that we don't have more western vtubers doing shit like masturbation audios or even videos considering there's a ton of women doing way worse on Onlyfans while showing their real face too.
I guess it's because normally vtubing already gets them a lot of money from paypigs.

>>65497836
bro just jerk off to porn, I'm here to see whores *GAME*

Be a good person.

>>65497911
Well I'm here to see them masturbate while gaming. We can finally have legit streams of all those game mods that connect to a vibrator too.

>lewdcorpo
>EN version
yeah...
i'll stick to my japanese girls.
nothing these EN girls can do or will do will ever be as quality.
maybe if they are oolaytiger

>>65498124
do you ever edge while playing satisfactory

After seeing those silhouette models, I hope this shit goes well. Some great potential here and she seems to have put a lot of care into anti grooming rules. Hopefully the women they hire aren't assholes or crazy.

>>65498215

>>65489298
>50k
That's crazy to me but if it's at least as popular as a small corpo, I guess it could see profit quickly. I hope the artist she got is good. Also watchalongs? Does this shit really help? I don't think it does desu.
From my time watching small corps I realized that even vtubers with low 3views can make it as long as they get one or two loyal paypigs.
And needless to say, just fucking stream. No need for merch, 3D, or whatever the fuck else bullshit small corps like wasting money on. Though a cheap 3d with VR and digital goods like voice packs are extremely easy to get so it's not a big deal.

>>65498216
No but I'd love to watch a cute girl just casually rubbing her pussy while playing something entirely unrelated to lewd stuff.

>>65497911
You can already watch that on every other vtuber corp.

>>65484836
doubt she's scottish. her accent is so weak

>>65484836
>>65498880
If she wasn't lying during the stream she's French-Scottish

>>65497611
A how to run a corpo thread, got it
Thank you

>>65483788
The amount of EIEN shills doomposting in this thread is quite telling. I have optimism this will work out considering how much money she's putting into it and how passionate she sounds.

>>65501676
Have EIEN fixed their shit yet or is Moeri still believing that Kiki deserves to still be there?

I'm not into lewd contents (yet) but female driven agency is very interesting desu.

It's going to be on Twitch exclusively. Youtube would demonetize this shit to hell and back.

>>65502266
she specifically said they won't be streaming on Twitch retard.

>>65502266
She has made it clear it will be on YouTube as Twitch will ban them over inane things.

>>65483877
bad move showing your real face if you're not very attractive

>woman manager for other women
I give it two weeks.

>>65483788
Does she do porn

>>65483788
>AV vtuber corpo
This is something I've wanted to see in the west since the 2020 boom.
I'm on the fence as Miss Scotland here has done a pretty poor job at selling her corpo IMO, but I'll stay hopeful and stick around for future announcements.
Project Melody doesn't do it for me anymore, this is just the kind of thing we need bros

>>65483877
I've seen prettier dudes than this... thing. Do coomers really?

>>65503220
gaynon...

>>65497305
Basically during the 1st year of JP Gen 4, they still didn't have monetization enabled, nor did they have merch or any other income stream.

To buy stuff, the members on record said they dipped into the salary Cover provided.

However, people talk about it like it's 50k or some sizable shit like that. No, it's super low. It's the equivalent of the base hourly pay of a tip-based waiter in the US, except without the tips.
They only have the salary for legal classification reasons, the amount is the absolute minimum possible.

>>65483788
Ok, so what type of porno does this scottish whore do?

>>65503220
This, she has a huge case of butterface
body is pure sex though

I still jerk off to that audio she posted on twitter of her masturbating. So glad I saved it.

>>65503912
Can you upload it?

>>65503356
And yet these girls earn enough to finance multiple layers of management and the world's most incompetent game studio. Incredible.

Didn't she have a huge melty over not being able to keep her steam games on a corporate account?

>>65503912
Care to share anon?

>>65504039
https://files.catbox.moe/t7xwdm.mp4
Enjoy

If this corpo is anything like what Riifu was offering when she was in EIEN then I'll support it 100%. Most western lewdtubers suck ass and are really bad at faking it.

>>65504068
Yes. I dunno what happened in the end, did she keep it or did EIEN recycle it for Gen 2?

>>65496748
Well yes but no

>>65504357
she posted this as riifu or from her rm?

>>65504068
Don't believe Eri's lies.

>>65504570
Completely agree, my worry is that the other girls aren't going to be nearly as enthusiastic as Riifu.

>>65505772
I don't really care who she brings on. I'm open to discovering someone else I like, but I'm primarily in this for her.

>>65505772
I genuinely believe she's gonna get a fuckton of applicants and will be able to nab only those who truly really want to do this, most likely ones with super strong parasocial bonds to their audiences who haven't felt the touch of a man in years, or just a bunch of girls with daddy issues who desperately seek validation

>>65505878
In the same boat but still want the project to succeed. It's a big investment for her and just wanna see her happy.

>>65485509
That's how all scottish women look like. They're either on it or look like they're on it.

>>65487205
>>65488752
>>65490126
>>65502706
>>65503220
>>65503677
You guys really need to get off of the internet.

>>65506301
Those are probably women. Her face is honestly not that bad.

>>65506410
Anyone who uses the word uggo is 100 percent a woman.

>>65506301
It's okay soe I like your big forehead

>>65506301
gotta remember were on vt, i bet 80% of this board gets jump scared looking at a womens face with little to no make-up on

>>65488401
How do taxes fuck you at 0%?

>>65505687
As Riifu on her alt twitter account.
https://twitter.com/RiifuAfterDark

>>65506659
femoid post case and point
Men prefer women with no make-up on. Make-up appeals to other women far more than to men.

>>65506301
It's okay Riifu.

>>65506777
souce: my asshole

>>65506888
>seething femanons
Take away a woman's make-up and you always make the roasties upset. lol

>>65506301
yeah okay hammerhead shark lookin ass

>>65506777
Fem anon here taking notes on this thanks I will start wearing makeup!! :D

>>65507107
she got some fucked up lookin EU teeth as well, annoying foid

>>65507291
Men do also like sex workers, which is what make-up indicates at different levels.

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>>65483788

>>65502706
she is cute but this one is hard to look at yes

i didn't read the entire thread but i hope this corpo turns out to be what i want from western lewdtubers. what i want are vtubers gone lewd, not porn stars gone vtuber

almost every single western lewdtuber i've seen is literally just a generic onlyfans thot with a cheap titty monster vtuber model. none of them are cute with a traditional high-pitched vtuber 'voice' that pairs well with portraying an anime girl. instead they just sound like boring basic bitches or - at best - a deep-voiced 'ara ara' type which isn't really one of my kinks

need more cute lewd anime girls and less fansly-promoting middle-aged women doing the stupid mommy voice please

>>65508811
you will be very disappointed then, "onlyfans thot with vtuber model" is literally this girls whole shtick

>>65509794
You never watched her.

>>65509889
and you are brainwashed.

>>65494007
>Anon these vtubers already exist in the language of your choice. English,
There's EN AVtubers now? Like, proper AVtubers play-acting sex scenarios and ASMRs?

>>65510251
There are only a couple.

Is this so easy to make a corpo? Like any whore can do this?

>>65511123

>>65483788
Heres the real question, are they going to collab with males or not

>>65511303
No.

Riifu...

>>65508811
Twitch has the biggest coomer audience than youtube. There is a reason why Amouranth is like the most popular streamer there among others who have fansly and OFs on the side. Even those that dont do coomer content like Emiru and Pokimane I am absolutely guaranteed most of their male audiences will usually think about how good they would look with their globs of semen on their faces than their actual streaming content. So there is a reason why she is confident in starting an actual lewd Vtuber company for the high risk/ high reward outcome.

1.Silvervale, Mel, Snuffy and Sinder among others started off with lewd content to attract a coomer audience and keep them while avoiding each other like the plague in doing any kind of collabs maybe out of fear some of the coomers will hop from one vtuber to the other offering more sex appeal or better content. Saruei, cottontail and El_xox(not popular because her sex appeal sucks) are consistent with their lewd content. Shylily, numi, rainhoe, bao, layna, Filian(doing flashbangs), etc, offer lewd content through other means, so I am assuming most of twitch vtubers know that their audiences are coomers. So if coomer vtubers from a coomer organization are consistent with coomer content, then there is a likelihood that coomers from existing twitch vtubers might move onto this coomer branded vtuber organization. So depending on these vtubers sex appeals they might be an annoyance to them. Even if Vshojo or mythic using OTK to try to make twitch create hell for them there is a likelihood that Twitch sees them as a big potential revenue maker. From left to right the 4th dark silhouette one has my interest.

2. Their secret and most dangerous weapon that will cause alot of drama that we are all aware of on the far left and right side, it seems they have two loli vtubers that will do lewd content. I dont think there exists a loli vtuber that does lewd content and even so based on Guras growth and muu muyu being the most popular phase connect euphoria member there is a possible very huge audience and income gain potential from this. So, the smart choice she will probably do is say that these loli characters are 18+ but it won't stop twitter fags trying to cancel them and eventually some twitch vtubers will snap and start talking about morals which will be amusing to hear from them based on what platform they stream.

>>65509794
>>65509913
Really doing your best to anti notRiifu huh?

>>65511303
https://www.twitch.tv/videos/2014917050?t=9196s

>>65483877
What's wrong with her face?

>>65483788
Is that RTX nyanners?

>>65511817
delusional

>>65485792
woman.

>>65483788
>>65483877
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>>65506301
Its fine riifu you look cute

She kinda reminds me of uma thermim in pulp fiction

>>65512793
Shit, now I know why I kept having this sense of deja vue

>>65512691
Expressing a desire to have sex with a 3D woman is prohibited in here.

Who is the owner

I hope they have some white women
if you know what I am saying

>>65512793
I see it

>>65512793
I was thinking dasha from red scare podcast

>>65488477
Corpo allows you to write off a bunch of money as expenses that you normally wouldn't as a hobby

>>65512988
OP is really into dogs. You're in good hands.

>>65512092
It doesn't have my cum tribute on it

Sex workers are good business women so I look forward to this.

>>65485792
It's worse than that. She's done an American accent as Soe...and it sounds nothing like DTL.

You guys are gay. I think she's very pretty.

>>65513654
Stop calling whores as sex worker.

>>65513731
if the Scottish is a fakeout too I think my brain will turn into runny eggs

>>65513778
She is pretty. But this is /vt/, there are a lot of seething whores in here under three pounds of make-up.

>>65513876
She's a lot prettier in motion than the pics indicate. Her pfp makes it worse than the stream did too.

>>65513876
t. 300lbs basement dweller

>>65513421
hell yeah

>>65513989
t. malding femanon

>>65513778
She's hideous

>>65513778
She's super cute and pretty, seems funny too and has a nice bod, but being a fan of Mid Wars? Insta dropped.

>>65514448
She said her dad was really into it

>>65513922
yep

>>65496909
>not a single one has canid ears
Dropped
Trash
Cancel the entire gen

>>65498274
This but unironically

What the hell are you guys arguing about?
There's no way someone has beauty everyone approves would be a Vtuber.
It can't be helped that you're retarded, but you should use your brain a little.

>>65496909
Looks like they're going to be gross VShojo tier models

>>65514580
Funny, I skipped to a random portion of the VOD and saw that explanation. Kind of wholesome desu I insta picked back up again

>>65483788
She literally has down syndrome eyes, how tf do any of you find her attractive

>>65483788
It makes femanon seethe then the corpo gets my full support

>>65514985
those are concept sillouettes, real models won't be shown off until a week before debut in June

>>65515002
I thought that at first but then I watched the vod. In motion she doesn't look bad. Besides:
>she wears her hair in bangs instead of a bun on top of her head
>no heavy make-up
>she's honest
>she's funny
>she wants to do good for vtubing
>makes femanons seethe
This is a good woman.

>>65515002
fetal alcohol syndrome

>>65515273
>>she wants to do good for vtubing
I'm not into slut-tubers, so we'll have to agree to disagree there, but fair enough on the other points.

>>65514834
The left loli "pins" might actually have fox ears under her hood. Before the silhouettes were shown, anons were guessing she was a Kitsune. Due picrel, the incense and the halloween pumpkin emoji she posted representing her.

>>65501801
Eien totally pivoted away from lewd content with Gen 2. I dunno why Eien shills are even up in arms about this. There's no overlap here.

>>65515699
I really hope you're right anon

but why show your face? is it worth the potential bit of extra credibility?

>>65512018
Oh thats super based, i’m glad she understands her demographic

maria HATES genshin men

>>65515273
being honest doesn't nullify being a piece of shit

>>65516486
Seems pretty nice to me. I dunno what she ever did to you.

>>65483788
those are pretty bad bangs. she should grow them out and sweep them aside, maybe.

>>65516486
femanon...

>>65516796
you shut the hell up about my wife we've been happily married for 3 years now i'll fuck you up kid

>>65516943
Turns out riifu's antis are jealous femanons who lack attention from men. I cant believe ive been fighting women this whole time.

>>65517049
>3 years
Have you been enjoying my sloppy seconds?

>>65484681
>>65490365
Mori has talked about it.

>>65517542
that's disgusting

I love Riifu!