/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

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Depends on how much can someone speak out against Cover.

>>6545190
Kiara is just mad that she can't collab with her right away while the hype is there, in hope that she gains a few extra viewers and subs. Having to wait 2 weeks isn't as effective. She's not brave, just shrewd.

>>6545190
ME ME ME ME ME

I always appreciate kiara for speaking about what is happening behind the scenes.

The collab ban is unironically good, they should establish their own identity first and get over their debut nervousness before starting to leech off senpais.

That said Kiara is based for rightfully shitting on Cover's "hurrr EN has no generations" autism.
FUCK these pieces of shit always treating EN like second class citizens.

Every talent has a month collab ban. This is neither new or unexpected.

>>6545190
>she's zooming through those subs
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Typical chicken. Nobody else has mentioned her subs when talking about her

>>6545190
I always saw collab ban like in case a fucked up happens, they can get rid of her without affecting the old members. But Kiara is right about building a fanbase and shit

>mentioning subs increasing fast
ffs Kiara, can you stop being a numberfag for 5 mins?

>>6545190
Based.

>>6545190
Ina said something but of course when it's Ina that says it there are neither cultist to spread it nor antis to make sure it stays bumped for a long time

Let's not forget she was the one who brought up the 1 month collab ban in the first place, and the discussion has started ever since.
Look at this as more of her correcting the misinformation that she spreaded to the public. And since she's addicted to twitter, reddit and was known to have lurked this board, of course she jumped into the conversation, and she knew which side was more vocal between pro-ban and pro-collab.
This was nothing compared to the shit she pulled during her members stream that has been popping around on this board ever since.

>Japanese company that traditionally respects loyalty, respect, modesty and discretion.

I wish they will make an example of her.

>>6547991
>nor antis
Ina has plenty of antis on here.

I agree with Kiara about one thing tho this No generation in HoloEn thing is kinda stupid yeah its not a big deal but its seem like an uncesseray thing to change.

>>6548054
Define plenty.

I like Kiara, but her constant obsession with subs and numbers is exhausting

>>6545232
kek i hope 2ch doesn't mind me borrowing this meme

>>6545190
>>6547532
>>6547797
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nlt5Wa13fFU

Kiara needs to sing this. Always about her, always about how she can break the rules, her ideas are better. ME ME ME.
Kiara theme song

>>6548054
Not really tho at most people call her boring and the worst I saw was About her not drawing Coco but it was only one thread.
Unlike for exemple Ame who as gotten like 6-5 thread against her this week alone.

>>6548089
Yeah, pretty much everyone agrees with that.

>>6548168
Anon, if she unironically covers this, I will forever love you.

>>6547991
Literally nobody gives a fuck about Ina.

>>6547872
Have we had a single talent launch alone since fucking AZKi? The bans are normally fine since everyone has their own gen to bounce off of, who can IRyS grow alongside with?

>>6548225
She should, just as a fuck you to the antis.

>>6547991
I'm not going to spread it as if it's an achievement to shit on cover though. I'm not going to say it's a positive trait in order to make her look better like OP is trying to do. It's stupid.

>>6548184
>me who as gotten like 6-5 thread against her this week alone.
I think that was just one schizo, supposedly. Anyway I think the hate is less hate towards Ina herself and more towards the Takos on here or just her fanbase in general.

>>6548250
or perhaps the people who do are not annoying loudmouths like certain other fanbases

>>6548168
Fuck I want to make a soundpost so bad with a cover of kiara

>>6548437
Takos are huge tribalist shitposters though but everytime this is exposed people cope with "i-it's just a falseflagger!"

>>6548089
Man It will be weird when IRyS collab with a ID2 and EN girl. Because she'll use senpai with the ID girl but she cant do that with the EN girl. Those interactions will be pretty weird

>>6548089
i feel like from a marketting stand point, gens kind of imply newer is better. when i first started watching vtubers it did seem that way where gen3 and up had avatars that btfo all the previous gens and sora's model looked outdated as shit and miko and subaru barely had any facial movement.

>>6547991
>>6548119
>>6548437
>>6548184
I see more Ina antis that Gura. But okay

>>6548521
You haven't been here for that long eh, sirchama?

>>6548371
She didn't shit on Cover, she said that it must feel pretty lonely to spend a month alone so she asked if this could be reduced

>>6548480
I mean, considering the current cope for Kiara antis is saying that all the post are made by one (1) egg-shaped person and her followers, calling the few shitposters falseflaggers doesn't seem that far fetched. There are probably a few smug fucks that are takos and shitposters but it's a small minority, most takos are well contained in their thread, because most discussion around Ina is either "she's boring" or "she didn't draw Coco", unlike Kiara which has a new drama every week it seems

Just a little more before I get to shit in her mouth

>>6548271
>who can IRyS grow alongside with?
This is why I would say allow her to collab at least with EN before the ban gets lifted, or at least make the ban shorter

>>6545190
>Ame calls out Yagoo for being useless while taking cuts of their earnings on stream

>Kiara slightly disagrees with a policy

Yeah clearly Kiara is the only one.

She's just mad she cant collab with her and gain subs from it

>>6549056
But aren't most of IRyS' subs from the collective of HoloEN itself? Or is there another group of subbers that I'm not aware of?

>>6549173
Not that anon but you gain more subs when there are special events, like an unarchived karaoke, a birthday, a collabs, etc

>>6548521
perhaps check your eye sight, it might be serious

>>6549237
Now that you mention it, I just remembered other youtubers using the same schtick about 80-90% audience that watch their videos haven't subscribe to their channels.

Also thanks for the extra info.

>>6545190
Sure but calli is the only one doing actual action against the way cover does things. Talking against and physically doing somthing is a big difference. Just look at all the pissed off Uber weeds and purityfags. Collabs with men, collabs with e-celebs, and practical tells people about about her old persona.

>>6549555
>Collabs with men
Cover ain't the one blocking them from that. They all learned from Gen 3 how idolfags works

>collabs with e-celebs
That's supposed to be a good thing?

>>6549587
Look at the likes and dislikes. Wasnt it like less then 10%. 4chan doesn't make up even half of the fandom or represent how the majority feels not even remotely.

>>6545190
She just mad she cant collab with her to leech on IRyS so basically this >>6547796

>>6549680
>4chan doesn't make up even half of the fandom or represent how the majority feels not even remotely.
I know, and I don't care, I don't want e-celebs bleeding into Hololive

>>6549745
Then the future looks bleak for you as an fan

>>6549769
Not really, only Mori is doing that, and I don't really care about her apart from a few of her songs

>>6545190
>she is zooming through those subs too
God! Why is she such a numberfag!?

>>6545190
BASED CHIMKEN I LOVE HER I LOVE HER I LOVE HER

>>6545190
Numbers! Numbers! Numbers!
ME ME ME!

>>6549796
The flood gates have been opened now. Its gunna happen but slowly and its only a matter of time before we see it more and more often. Like the chess tournament and the card game tournament

>>6549555
Mori's goals are different from the rest of the girls
The other girls are just trying to become anime amouranth so it makes sense they would try to collect and appease the same audience.
Mori actually wants to have a successful music career instead of sitting on her ass and collecting whale simp bucks.
Collabing with male e-celebs is great because she wants large amounts of casual viewers who will help spread her music much more than a small insular group of hardcore fans.

>>6549745
>I don't want e-celebs bleeding into Hololive
Anon... Every single member of Hololive is an e-celeb.

>>6550003
Still been seeing more of it since she opened the flood gates. Ollie in the chess tournament as an example but I can't completely disagree with this. You make some very good points

>>6545190
>Kiara has another bad take
>that's news somehow

>>6549895
I do agree, but I'll have grown out or bored of Hololive by the time it reaches the ones I like. I can't find the post about "you won't be able to point at one specific event but everything will slowly degrade" but that's basically how I think about this stuff

>>6550015
You know perfectly well what I meant by this

>>6550015
Was. They've cast off the stench.

Right?

... Right?

>she can only collab with genmates for a month
>she has no genmates

>>6548140
You sound like a fucking pansy

someone post the streamable, it seems kfp are here already damage controlling.
the streamable about being mad at irys and cover always shuts them the fuck up

>>6545190
HAHAHAHAHAHA the sheer smell of SEETHE is overpowering god daaamn hahahahahaha

Chicken should really focus on her own content instead of numberfagging all the time

>>6545190
The only good use of her narcissisism

>>6545190
Based chickin speaking up for her genmates

>>6550882
? There is no streamable about her being mad at irys are you retarded? The ones that retards posts is her being mad at cover because they give zero help but own all the rights to her song
I can smell your seethe egg

>>6548271
Not even AZKi was alone, she had Suisei in INNK. The collab ban should be 2 weeks at most, interactions are key to grow

>>6554107
While agree it should be shorter then normal the hololiveEN name is too powerful for it to affect her growth in any meaningful way. Its just as important to get her own community to form.

>>6545190
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>>6545190
Not true, Ina said it first, Although I agree with Kiaras sentiment, spending an entire month alone as a solo gen is a bit stupid. the reason the collab ban was made was to keep gens together so they actually form their own identity, and don't just fuck off and do whatever they like with their Oshi; reduce it to 2 weeks, it serves little purpose to a gen that consists of one person.