/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

*GENERAL NUMBERFAG SITES*
>https://playboard.co/en/
>http://ikioi-ranking.com/
>https://vrabi.net/
>https://www.vstats.jp
>https://live-ranking.userlocal.jp/vtuber-ranking

Hololive sites
>https://vt.poi.cat/
>https://www.hololyzer.net/youtube/index.html
>https://trackholo.live/en/
>https://www.hololive-songs.com/

Nijisanji sites
>https://niji-mado.web.app/stats/hourly
>https://twitter.com/2434rankings
>https://twitter.com/2434subscriber
>https://www.nijiuta.com/

Twitch
>https://sullygnome.com/
>https://twitchtracker.com/
>https://stats.roki.sh/

Full list at https://pastebin.com/nCGZL1Lp

>>65438086
APOSTROPHES GENERAL

>「DAYBREAK FRONTLINE」 - 音乃瀬奏 (cover) *new*
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BWexRFqs3Wg
>「名前のない怪物」 - 音乃瀬奏 (cover)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=45ZfAdZuaok

Why is IRyS so brown?

https://twitter.com/frankenboy434/status/1739880231333232905

> making up rrats over apostrophes
Fucking KEK. God you guys are so retarded. I love you idiots.

>>65437727
I'm worried it could propel NijiEN's popularity to the top. All the phasekeks and hardcore jp weebs would start supporting them because they murder their talents.

>>65438086
BASED BASED BASED. NIJINIGGERS ON SUICIDE WATCH, LITERALLY. SELEN IS GONNA KILL HERSELF SOON

NijiEN's new girl is doing fantastic you guys.

NijiEN doesn't even NEED Selen anymore

GRIM

>>65438155
So my cum shows up easier after i blast it all over her fat ass

So what did we learn from the last thread anons?

Grim

>>65438130
>'
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>’

>>65438014
isnt she pretty isolated from the rest of NijiCN? shes one of the more popular Nijis outside the company but inside the fanbase is pretty sour, I think theres a fairly direct comparison with Chii-chan in JP who theyre also graduating without much fanfare

Too lazy to cross thread but Selen uses the curly apostrophe a lot when she's out and about. This was when she was in Japan with Pomu a year ago.
There's another instance where she uploads pictures of her dog to Twitter and it also has curly apostrophes.

Id almost say it can be assumed that almost every time she's at home on PC she's using the straight apostrophe.

>>65438252
The apostrophe is a punctuation mark, and sometimes a diacritical mark, in languages that use the Latin alphabet and some other alphabets. In English, the apostrophe is used for two basic purposes: The marking of the omission of one or more letters, e.g. the contraction of "do not" to "don't".

>>65438155
Im sorry what? I was too mesmerized by the green goddess

>>65438193
They'd have to face off with the actual JP nijiniggers that would like it NijiEN went the way of NijiId and get folded into the banishment room until they finally get the message to graduate

Isn't Selen obese ? She probably got a cardiac arrest because of management

>defeated by a droppy dot

>>65438035
If thats the case can you explain why aia, meloco, ver, elira and others were praising their managers after nijifes? or do you think they only dislike the upper maangement of the branch?

>>65438199
you need at least ten kunais to substitute one selen

GRIM

>>65437872
>I don't want the girls to stop playing the game
Kaychama knows. he's also smart enough to never say it out loud

>>65438155
>IRyS has the biggest ass
>IRyS has the biggest feet
>IRyS is shaking her fat ass like a whore
Even in fan made media IRyS is a total succubus.

>>65438284

heres the delicious thread btw >>65430284
>Juicy juicy rrat

>>65438285
they have different apostrophes retard

>>65438352
Nijisister, c’mon.

>>65438284
Here's the image of the dog as well.

It'd be a funny rrat if it weren't so easy to disprove

>>65438130
>He doesn’t know how to curly-apostrophe
KEK KEK KEK
’’’

Straight apostrophe '
Opening apostrophe ‘
Closing apostrophe ’
My android phone can do it.

>>65438178
we no longer #...

>>65438199
They really hate her.

So what was the emergency meeting about?

>>65438352
>Literal shitter who would unironically return to 1view status if they leave NijiEN
>Nigger still wonder why they love to suck Paul Li's micropenis so bad

>>65438437
>Straight apostrophe '
thats a prime mark not an apostrophe

>>65438183
>Never a boring day in academy city

>>65438352
Really nigga?

Another day of grim holoslopen numbers while nerissa hard carries their entire branch

I would like to think a ton of anons scoured Selen's Twitter to look for apostrophes. That's the most this board has ever paid attention to her tweets.

>>65438484
given that they only make 2% on merch sales they would probably make more money indie

I apologize for the silence.
>I've been silenced.

I’ve been in the hospital after an accident
>I accidentally angered management and am now isolated.

>will be staying there for a few day to be under supervision
I will be suspended for a few days under supervision.

>I just got back access to my phone yesterday
They jus gave me permission to post.

>>65438236
Sub 3k shitter

>>65438352
Sis'ter.....

>>65438285
Smartest nijifag

How did they sell?

So we learned that Selen mostly posts on xitter from her PC but occasionally from her phone. Well done, lads.

>>65438284
Doesn't this just prove she really is at the hospital? So what the fuck did she really try to kill herself and management has no idea what the fuck to do

>>65438252
Phone keyboard vs computer keyboard maybe

>>65438552
yea, but what about the sunken cost?

>>65438512
Go commit Minecraft like your oshi

>>65438199
wasn't her RM more successful then this? Or was it the other one

>>65438568
80IQ Pajeet

▲
▲▲

>>65438484
i didnt mention only aia for a reason. Ive been recommended clips of them talking about their managers a lot of times. I dont think any of them hate their managers, at least current ones, if anything they mainly ocmplain about their upper management, not the talent manager

>>65438601
I'm going to go to bed, chances are, since I'm sick, I'll wake up in an hour or two. I'll update it then. Last update is >>65400154 where the geekjack sales were only about 8 hours old

>>65438552
>Make more money indie
Lol no. They won't get any sponsor, no voice pack, no nothing. That's a psyop from seething 2views on vt. The mother fucking cockroach hajime make like $1000 per month on Youtube, he would unironically starve to death if not for those occasional bargain bin biscuit collab

>>65438736
Why does Kronii stuff sell so poorly? I seriously don't get it.

>>65438199
Jesas... I know deep female voice doesn't sell but there must be some other factors right?

>>65438608
No they likely just restricted her access to all socials and the tweet is just a corpo one they skin walked to buy them some time to actually try to salvage this or proceed with a smear campaign against her before terminating her for not following proper guidelines.

>>65438262
Selen was the biggest nijien before luxiem debuted so who knows? And nijien isn't as established as NijiJP yet where they can lost one of their founding members and not feel it, as far an EN mindshare goes Selen is still pretty big

>>65438526
This is the funniest thing yet. Why are anons here so autistic

>>65438736
So why is the ugly IRyS one selling so well?
And why is the runt selling the best?

>>65438796
She killed off a lot of her gachis in exchange for Vesper's dick but then he left and now she's trying to make up for it by doing more pander stuff.

Hololive's #1 fangame embraces the Holostars

>>65438797
>he
male
dont care

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BoT8SjHO5_c
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BoT8SjHO5_c
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BoT8SjHO5_c
unrelated question, I heard Raden quit smoking for 2 months already?

>>65438814
Anons get hyper-stimulated when there is a yab or some other drama. High amounts of autism come with it, some good and some bad.

>>65438814
This is serious crime investigation anon. We must follow all leads.

>>65438858
Bae isn't selling the best?

>>65438608
Who knows, could have had a car wreck could have been cardiac arrest could have been literally anything. I don't know was it snowing in Canada this year? Maybe she slipped on some ice while walking the dog?
Maybe she "fell" on a dildo and they had to do surgery to get it out.

I used to work as an ambulance driver a few years back and the shit that happens during the holidays makes your head spin
>I was trying to clean the house before Uncle Bobby came over and I accidentally made chlorine gas in the toilet and passed out and hit my head on the sink
>I was trying a new recipe and never knew I was allergic to hazelnut and became a balloon
>I only had a few glasses of wine and thought I could make it, that snowbank just jumped out in front of me

Or who knows maybe she did try the ol fashioned razors in a bathtub and got caught?

>>65438882
>Don't care about real number
Why are you here then ?

>>65438881
anon the shitpost was from this thread you retard

>>65438910
Bae isn't the runt, though. She just roared past Fauna in subscribers.

>>65438949
for the cute girls

>>65438796
Doesnt make sense to me either. She has the 2nd highest ceiling after Mumei but she sells worse than Bae and IRyS? Shit is weird.

>>65438796
Homos

>>65438865
And what merch sales pre-Tempus do we have to track the difference? It's the same with Fauna. Anons acts surprised at how Promise mems are doing with these latest drops of plushies and acrylicslop as if there was something to compare them to.

>>65438796
Unfortunately homobeggars who doesn't buy shit are a thing

>>65438972
AI thread is another 2 blocks down

>>65438608
I mean it could be a car accident. Maybe she was driving recklessley
There's a million things you can do to end up in the hospital. We'll just have to wait and see

>>65438881
He’s stalling so sisters don’t attack him. They’ll never come out.

>>65438886
>>65438909
KEK. You guys are alright sometimes.

>>65438252
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=glfu6gs831Y

CHINK MAPLE JUST WOKE UP

>>65438962
>subs
Lol, lmao

>>65438736
pajeetchama stop throwing dollar signs around when you aren't even using the correct cost

>>65438736
Rest well anon. Also can you update on the promise Christmas merch too? I kind of want to bundle it with stuff that would be coming out in January

>>65438800
Mori is the most superchatted of all time for EN and 2nd highest this year so that’s clearly false

>>65439038
Frank Zappa's head is moving in this video I swear

i love pekora!!

>>65439042
AAAAIIIEEEEE MUST. DEFEND. NIJISANJI.

>>65439060
That was also done >>65401435

>>65439055
I've said it before, the dollar sometimes fluctuates where it costs 21 vs 22, some people paid 21, some people paid 22. There's no reason not to use 21 for the entire thing to keep it consistent.

the timing is just very convenient

>>65439042
#1 VsPO fan btw

>>65439042
Initiate damage control protocol, lock it the fuck down!

>>65431698
Sourcing this whole list is hard a f man... but it does seem list most of it is true from cursorily checking Japanese internet.
https://youtu.be/31aP8Jo94KY
^ This is the choir video Ryushen uploaded.
https://youtu.be/pnglMkAiSm8?t=3509
^ And this is the incident.
Basically she was doing egosa to see reactions to that video, saw comments going "I can clearly hear my oshi's voice", and while grinning she was thinking "your oshi is just lip syncing tho lololol" in her head (but now on stream).
She didn't private it but the stream is unlisted, and most of the comments section got nuked.

>>65439042
I don't see any legitimate justification to lock it based on the OP.

>>65439021
>>65438939
this is reminding of those "vesper and magni were just hunting bears during their break" rrats i used to hear during their hiatus before they got "graduated".

>>65438881
>da bois
If I were a homo, I would do everything in my power to shame and eject people from my audience that use that shitty faggy term. Holy shit what a fucking insulting way to refer to a group of people. I guess they deserve if for being such clowns.

>>65439119
She'll be okay and all healthy again on *checks calendar* January 11th 2024 JST

>>65438977
I think there's a lot of people that show up to Kronii stuff to listen to her sex voice but don't care about her beyond that. I know some JOP are like that

>>65439193
The difference is Selen actually said she was hospitalized while the other two were literally baseless coping rrats

>>65439063
Honestly good for her. She puts out alot of streams for her fans that clearly enjoy and appreciate it. Even if its not for me i can respect the grind. Just wish she was less cringy

>>65439187
The justification is that they are shitting on nijisanji and that can't happen on his precious sub

https://reddit.com/comments/18shx1v

>>65439179
Women and being retarded. Name a better combo

>>65439227
>Selen actually said
>Selen

What have been your favorite bits of drama to occur on /vt/? For me its these:
>rushia yab and termination
>vesper and magni termination (and mods desperately deleting threads left and right to downplay it)
>2% leak
>ALL OUT WAR discord leak

>>65439261
Okay, I'll fix it.
SOMEONE TWEETED ON SELEN"S ACCOUNT that she's been hospitalized. Unlike the other two.

>>65438567
Yes that's how it's supposed to be read

>>65438977
She draws in tourists with her tits, that's literally all. People really don't give a shit about her otherwise.

>>65439113
providing dollars at all is weird and pointless

Kek bijou got btfo by nerissa collabing with a male

>>65439227
>Selen actually said
>Selen

>>65439179
Im too tired for this mate. I dont understand what the yab is. Sorry. Can you clarify?

>>65439042
>he just got back from his meeting with Riku

>>65439268
All out war and GC stream were my favorite

>>65439261
did you fags forget you just proved she was the one typing? kek

>>65439063
Why deadbeats prefer sending money to google but less willing to buy merch though?

https://reddit.com/comments/18sasqz
https://reddit.com/comments/18shx1v
https://reddit.com/comments/18s5t5e
https://reddit.com/comments/18s61ec
These were the four top threads on r/vyt this morning
As of an hour ago two of them are deleted and the other two are locked
See if you can identify the similarities

I don't understand the people who thinks that her medical condition is just a management lie. Obesity has dire health consequences, (you) from America should know this.

>>65439006
have you checked the archive?

>>65438601
This is peak character design. The best 5 girls ever created in any form of media.

>>65439113
Those Geekjack sales are definitely questionable.
Apparently Geekjack initially had the same stock as the official store, which seems very unlikely.
I doubt the anon lied about it, more likely that geekjack had the wrong stocks listed initially when the numbers were first taken

>>65439113
Whaaaaat?!?
Is this legit?
I find it very hard to believe geekjack is outselling the Holo store...

>>65439316
yes owned cucked wrecked etc

>>65439382
Were they that lock/delete happy during Rushia's debacle?

>>65438199
>1$

>>65439268
That time when Haachama held a rap contest, that one shitty indie made a diss rap with doxx, (jp) people were making a fuss over it for days, and Haachama absolutely OBLITERATED him(her? Can’t remember). And then immediately privated.
Maybe not a nuclear yab, but the way it was resolved was like a rollercoaster of emotion

>>65439442
It wasn't filled with posts shitting on nijisanji so why would they?

>>65438796
Up until now, I kind of partially believed the cope that her merch was generally worse than others. Like astoundingly bad. The Boros keychain is the only thing I've bought. But now it's clearly more than that.

>>65439316
Hmm I assume she got raided by Biboo then?

>>65439352
Millie should do GC stream 2 but this time a redeemable version where they praise nijisanji and riku and how happy everyone is being under the nijisanji umbrella

>>65439268
i dont know if this counts as a yab but the horse audio blowing up to the point that xqc reacted to it was funny.

>>65439462
Wasn't that the guy who had a photo of a cucumber shoved up his ass?

>>65439317
>>65439261
I mean the apostrophe does match her iPhones text correction so
I'll also be honest I don't think that management has ever tweeted for the people themselves. Like I know that's a common thing in hololive but each time someone has been suspended they've just either gone silent. Claimed to think about their actions or thought of an excuse like a vacation to visit family.

There really isn't a single incident I can think of where the people in the company talked about having tweets made for them or waking up to tweets they didn't remember sending. though, if you have any clips or streams to the contrary id love to see it

>>65439042
ah yes the number one VSPO fan chinkmaple

>>65439113
Kronii used to be top two with Mumei, and now she's last place
RIP gachis

>>65439470
biboo's raid and funnels on dead hour with Mori's watch along and fwmc's VN stream.

>>65439367
They do buy merch though. They buy enough merch she convinced the Japanese to open a store so Americans could get cheaper shipping
.

>>65439042
Probably because he saw this comment

So basically # lost the rrat war?

>>65439268
Definetely the two dipshits graduations. Yea. Mods are pretty faggy for that shit.

>>65439462
My wife is really the world's strongest idol.
>>65439522
Yes.

In numbers news, Bae released 7 original songs this year
Sweet Appetite, PSYCHO, DROWN, BOOM, MESS, BITE! カム! BITE!, and HIDE & SEEK

>>65439268
All the NijiEN ones. Whether it's Finana sperging out over the word trap and telling people to educate themselves only to quickly apologize, or Enna saying Kyo's speech mannerism is like he lives in the ghetto and eats fried chicken and watermelon, or Kyo saying Korean culture is to be plastic husks that aren't even human and saying he will never apologize and then he did, or Miload's multiple spergouts followed by kindred sperging out back, or this one.
It's just all so silly and so avoidable.

>>65439442
I honestly dont know but probbably not. Chinkmaple doesnt try to hide his bias at all and deflects if people call it out

>>65439571
MINDBROKEN

>>65439240
That actually reminds me, Mori has another 24 hour stream planned with 8 hours of prerecorded content. Also I think a 12 hour Valentines stream but I’d have to recheck the post movie chat.

>>65439268
vesper and magni getting shitcanned and the fall of Omega afterwards will always be my favorite. Everything from the long build up to the quick and sudden end was something beautiful.

>>65439589
KEK. Haachama didn't have to go so hard for a bit she started to welcome La+ during HoloX debut.

>>65439589
God she’s so based.

>>65439611
Gotta love the rat!

>>65439687
The EN scene is healing

>>65439687
>the fall of Omega
he doesn't know

>>65439187
The justification is the first and last rule of moderation anyone who used old forums knows “fuck you I don’t like it and if you try argue I’ll ban you too.”

>>65439571
Oh now that theyre shitting on ninisanji its not ok but when they were dragging Hololive through the mud it was peachy. Definetely types like a woman too

>>65439687
remove Fauna from that image now that we know her true intentions

>>65439738
is the vtuber bubble popping? i have seen some big EN vtubers making face streams

>>65439268
Vox going method actor/vtuber and scaring his fanbase

>>65439063
>2nd highest this year
you have no proof of this and i am not accepting replies.

>>65439715
Her rap videos started a long while before that, she just kind of returned to doing them around then

>>65439687
Ceaser was based as fuck though and he was killed by a bunch of pussy ass senators who were afraid of him. The roles in this edit are all fucked up.

>>65439442
They left this one up. https://www.reddit.com/r/VirtualYoutubers/comments/y9lv7t/delutaya_threatening_legal_action_against/

ReGloss in tokyo station.

>>65439433
It was reported at first that geekjack had the same stock as the Holostore, which is why they seem so crazy.
It was probably a mistake on the Geekjack listing the wrong stock amounts at first

>>65439687
Didn't Brutus and the other assassins get killed by Octavian and Mark Antony? Not a good analogy there

https://x.com/usadapekora/status/1740234316180013432?s=46&t=vAuMk6FVLkrJxgLS90A6gw
Why is Pekora replying to random Japanese mom?

>>65439589
Haachama is so fucking based. Truly the World's Strongest Idol. Im glad she's back. Even if shes settling back into her pre-hiatus numbers

>>65439268
The mori horse stuff still cracks me up

>>65439780
Her intentions are beyond what you can fathom. I mean look at this webm

>>65439042
In fairness to ChinkMaple, the subreddit might be in the process of being raided, the current active users is certainly much higher than normal days,

>>65439810
It's kind of based in a way though cause the EN that's beating her didn't even exist for half the year

>>65438601
Will they be restocking? I planned to buy some, but a couple of the plushies I also wanted are sold out.

>>65376373
Supremely based post
Actual numberchad thinkers are a dying breed
Bless you

>>65438199
>you can, at this very moment, become a Big 2 Corpo chuuba's unquestioned top paypig for as little as $25 a stream

>>65439268
holosummer2023 ZAN failure, antis and nijinig got BTFO second day

>>65439674
> 12 hour valentine stream
What is going on with you Mori-chama. Why are you trying so hard to change.....

>>65439845
No way it's interpeted as an analogy. The pic is likely taken merely as a template.

Is the bubble finally bursting?

>>65439113
Merch sales are one of the best ways to spot an actual incline vs. a recline. IRyS has really upped her merch game. Her acrylic and plush are performing very well.

>>65439942
Mori has become a "pick-me"

>>65439611
Thats one hardworking rat!

>>65438728
i actually agree with you. I dont htink they have problems with their direct maangers but the manager's manager aka upper management from the branch, maybe a lead manager (s)

>>65439268
all drama sucks but mysta being on the shit end of the stick of it so many times he fucking bails is hilarious.

>>65439846
Because she is the hero of children.
I wonder if the mom thinks it's surreal that the entertainer her kid likes responded to her.

>>65439787
Its just showing who the grifters are including onigiri and her corner of "vtubers"

>>65439433
geekjack numbers are BS for sure. mumei literally sold the same on holoshop as geekjack somehow and people are taking it seriously lol

>>65439936
Nijis get so mad when Hololive responds in a way that anybody expects a company to act (refunds for issues or making it free) because Nijisanji will never act in any way other than short term greed.

>>65438728
>>65439998
Holy fucking samefag. Up to the typos and everything. Stop typing with fat fingers kek.

>>65440027
listen yuros just fucking love their commemorative plates

>>65440027
I was thinking the same. Everyone somehow sold more on geekjack while Mumei sold less. There's no way geekjack is selling more than holoshop.

>>65440034
Nijisanji is like Vegeta, they only exist to make hololive look good, and just like Vegeta they get very angry whenever they get reminded of that

>>65440114
And hololive exists to make vshojo look good

>>65438800
I love her voice and her model is nice, but I've made it a point to just ignore all Niji channels and not support them.

>>65440107
I won't say there's no way, geekjack delivers to places hololive don't and doesn't use volumetric shipping so it's better to order bulky goods like plushies on geekjack rather than hololive

>>65440138
>

>>65439687
My favorite part of this image was always Ina's shit-eating grin in the back

>>65440027
Easy explanation is that initial merch numbers were wrong, and the numbers were then adjusted to what they were. (Mumei's initial stock maybe was higher than the rest, which makes her sales on geekjack look alot worse since other's had their stocks corrected alot lower)

>>65439846
Man thats cute. Theyre all so surprised they got a response from her. Kek. Looks like she was doing a bit of egosa

>>65440138
post wallet

>>65439942
What the fuck are you talking about?
She was one of the only ENs who actually did a themed stream for Valentine’s this year and delivered the EN visual novel with fully voiced routes for everyone FOR FREE.
In 2022 she did a chocolate making stream where she boiled milk for an hour because she didn’t get concentrated milk. In 2021 she did a stream she labeled as a date.

>still crying that Fauna plushies are popular and selling well
Sad

>>65439367
I don't know how people here can still deny that money mori absolutely rakes it in. It's not tantamount to admitting you like her or that she's "good".

>>65439645
>Enna saying Kyo's speech mannerism is like he lives in the ghetto and eats fried chicken and watermelon, or Kyo saying Korean culture is to be plastic husks that aren't even human and saying he will never apologize and then he did
They hated them for speaking the truth

>>65440202
They're bitch more about the acrylic stands though.

>>65438252
NIJISANJI SUPER BLACK

>>65440192
was this before or after she maced kiara?

so is mumei going to get her anniversary merch or what, she mentioned that she pushed it back because it wasn't ready or something

>>65440192
>She was one of the only ENs who actually did a themed stream for Valentine’s this year
Fauna...

>>65440022
Wasn’t Onigiri always a handcam gimmick streamer?
Hell i remember her doing a IRL fishing vid with Kson and TEXT REDACTED from like 2022.

>>65440252
it will be her one year anniversary of hitting 774k subs merch.

>>65440252
she pushed it back because she felt bad having that much merch in a short amount of time

>>65440270
ignore the deadbeat everyone fucking did themed streams it has no eyeballs it cannot see

>>65439268
While not a big yab or anything, I will never forget Kiara testing Mori by asking if she listened to the cover of a song that she didn't actually cover. Mori said yes. Mori at the time was a really shitty girl. I don't even like Kiara, but that was something else.

>>65439889
God i loved this moment. Im catching up right now

>>65440270
IRyS did one too

>Stinky fox became a stinky dragon and joined phase
>Have seen and heard 0 from Luto, realize i haven't heard much from anyone from PRISM
What happened to them? Last i heard they got a sony sponsorship then fucked off...

*CLAP*CLAP* NEXT MEME

>>65440339
What made Mori change?

>>65440114
No....but i like Vegeta

>>65439836
>2 days ago
Looks like they’re also selling en and id merch

>>65440270
I said one of not the only you illiterate fucking retard. I know this is numbers not letters but come on.

>>65440395
I don't believe she has changed AS MUCH as some people claim, but it seems like she has settled into her role and doesn't want to actively destroy the culture anymore. Take of that what you will.

>>65438881
Stars are going to take several goddamn years if his comments are anything to go by.

>>65439889
I had to work, but I'll be watching her as soon as I get home, more excited now than I was 5 minutes ago

>>65440432
Yes but saying >one of when pretty much everyone did except like, Ina, means fucking nothing

>>65440213
Its just shitposters mate. Everyone has seen the data and heard her stories to know that shes raking it in. If anyone actually tries to deny it, well, theyre probbably just being a schizo anyways

>>65440430
are they stocking the promise ones?

>>65440444
the only thing changes is being more selective for outside collab iirc? which is understandable.

>>65440430
>ID/EN holomerch are everywhere in japan
>meanwhile the only avenue their actual demographic can get them is through a third party online shop that charges a fuckton for shipping alone.
what did Cover mean by this?

>>65440491
Is there anyone in EN that's not raking it in? I always see them complain about expensive stuff, but never about lacking money

>>65440491
Shitposters sure, but I do think some people really think that acknowledging financial success is somehow admitting defeat. They are like gen alpha that seems everything as a W or an L.

>>65432323
>organ transplants

>>65440543
I would imagine trying to scalp the merch would go poorly for most? Seems like a lucrative business otherwise

>>65440543
Isn't there a store in Glendale has holo merch? Can't remember the tweet though

>>65440516
no, cover hates promise
its understandable. none of them are even at a million after 2+ years. their most subbed member barely streams. their 2nd most subbed member is a failed vsinger. then you have "unfortunately, idol culture is a thing", roberu's biggest fan. fauna is literally the only positive thing about promise and she's fucked over by shitty model and youtube algorithm which doesn't let her grow

>>65440461
Naaaah you're just being pedantic. Kiara didn't do anything either. Kronii didn't. I'm pretty sure Ame didn't. There was a decent amount of no shows in 2023

>>65440389
KEK

>>65430576
>いsらえl
I'm surprised that the news has spread that far into JP, didn't think they would care

>>65440543
You do realize how big the United States is, right? Distribution alone will eat up the profits of trying to put Holo products in every Walmart, Target, or Barnes & Noble, not to mention warehousing, shipping, and customs.

>>65440601
There's like one or two stores in california that sell Holo merch.

>>65440612
>is literally the only positive thing about promise
No

>>65440461
Kiara didn’t
Ame didn’t
Kronii didn’t
Ina didn’t
Gura did a like 1 hour members where she claimed she was totally going to do a part 2(she didn’t and had to remove the archive of what she did because they don’t have members only perms for the yakiniku game)
Mumei did
Fauna did
Bae did
IRyS did
More than I remembered to be fair.

>>65440527
Mori once had a meltdown that lasted months. It all stemmed from her not coming to terms with people expecting her to take more care with who she collabs with and to have some kind of restrictions compared to her prior career. To spite certain superchatters who called her out for collabing with people who hate Hololive, she went on a campaign to "own the haters". She even mentioned it multiple times and even once got a post of hers majorly downvoted on Reddit of all places. Everybody but Deadbeat understood that "owning the haters" was not going to do anything other than fuel them. Eventually, she stopped.

>>65440612
Council/Promise is like the rape baby of Hololive, that one child you can't love because it reminds you of the worst event of your life, or in Cover's case, Omega's reign of terror.

>>65440213
There are some people who are here because they are interested in numbers, and then there are some people who are here because they hate certain girls who just happen to get poor numbers, and those latter people get really defensive whenever their narrative is challenged

>>65439842
>>65440027
>>65440178
Okay yeah the initial stock theory HAS to be it
Otherwise it makes literally no sense, as much as I'd like it to be true.

>>65440691
How can one analogy be so fucked up but so true at the same time?

>>65440272
She was but didn't give off turbo grifter vibes until her move to japan. I thought numi would cash in before onigiri.

>>65440667
>>65440614
Kiara played Holocure which is enough for me.

>>65440554
If Kiara, who has been the runt for years, is able to go on expensive ass trips when she wants. Then i expect that theyre all living comfortably. Yea. No EN is hurting for cash unless theyre doing something unbelievably stupid with it

>>65440213
People unironically apply the just world fallacy to streamers here. If someone is a “bad” person they should be getting bad numbers which is why schizos try to smear someone’s character as proof their numbers are “fake” e.g Faunaschizos paragraphs about how she’s a lazy whore therefore her good numbers aren’t real.
In reality moral character has no linear relationship to streaming success.

>>65440691
Kek

>>65440670
ALL she really did was get a better hold on her inner contrarian that makes her do the opposite of what everyone tells her to do that she got from spending her formative teenage years in 4chan.

>>65440588
GANGWAY

>>65440612
mumei consistently is in bottom half of EN stream hours while having the least streams out of any promise members last year and people will conveniently ignore that lol

I genuinely don't understand how people cannot fathom that goods stocked at 2k at most getting shilled by the talents to 15k+ people doing well isn't an option. Geekjack is literally the go to for most foreigners especially outside of the US.

>>65440583
Then honestly its not worth arguing with them. Just present why theyre wrong and let them try to rationalize it however they want.

>>65440776
Like spending $15k on a song cover because that would be kinda stupid

>>65439571
And that guy made some pretty based comments about how FSU didn’t deserve to be in the College Football Playoffs over Alabama because FSU went undefeated with a garbage schedule, but somehow feels the need to defend Nijisanji. How do you manage to watch college football AND NijiEN? C’mon.

>>65440635
You don’t need stores everywhere but just set up a warehouse for fucks sake.
This shit isn’t some new idea.

>>65440543
If they were sold via amazon I would have like ten of those things

>>65440776
To be fair, Kiara really isn't a runt.

>>65440612
>Fauna vs Mumei and IRyS
Kill yourself

>>65440813
Because HoloEN should never be able to do well

>>65440749
Aren’t her and her little clique of Asian twitch vtubers constantly going to cons IRL?

>>65440777
>apply the just world fallacy to streamers
Yeah, that about perfectly sums it up. Funny how many people in the numbers thread are entirely innumerate and rely on emotions instead.

>>65440838
Whatever happened to Gura's $200k Queen cover?

>>65440699
Yeah if you go and check the sales updates in the archives it suggests that they sold a ton immediately on Geekjack then has crawled along since.
So yeah Geekjack probably just had the wrong stock listed at first, which unfortunately means we won't know what the actual stock was

>>65440670
It's because for the longest time Mori was embarrassed to be a vtuber due to her rl friends making fun of her for it.
She had a stint of doing a lot of these twitch collabs she really wanted as her rm but at some point she realized that they only cared about the clout that "Mori" had and not her.

>>65440838
15k is actually not that unusual for a song, like I'm pretty sure Bae's new song cost more than that once all the costs are tallied up. The difference is that Bae can afford spending 15k without stressing too much about it but for Selen that's enough to out her below the poverty line

>>65440889
What happened to Selen's 15k cover though?

>>65440870
NTA, and I don't have the context of your conversation, but she WAS the runt of HoloEN when it was only Myth. She was even the last to get 1 million subs.

>>65440776
>Ame buys her manipulative aunt a car, and her brother some unmentioned things
I'm hoping she tightened her coinpurse after these flukes

>>65440667
Gura never said she was gonna do a part 2 (Gura doesn't make promises like that)
She just went into detail about what her real plans for valentines were going to be but she couldn't do. She never said she was going to do another valentines stream though, just that she'd think about it.

And the stream was only 1 hour because she had to squeeze it in at 7AM japan time because Myth had a mandatory collab scheduled during valentines at prime time in America

>>65440889
Said in the members post she mentioned it she was going to find someone else and then never mentioned it again.

>>65440870
Runt just means last place so she kinda is, she just isn't doing bad

>>65440214
I’d love for someone to collab with Kyo and accuse him of cultural appropriation. It might actually cause that faggot to melt down.

>>65440776
>Kiara spends $15K on a motion capture suit like it's nothing
>Selen spends $15K on a cover, goes into debt, tries to off herself

>>65440776
Trips really aren't THAT expensive. You guys act like you need to be Bill Gates to afford a trip to the Maldives.

>>65440935
Ame's aunt is the good one while her mother was the manipulative one retard

>>65439124

>>65440889
She just asked for the price for that producer, got a fuck off price and didn't make it.

>>65440933
Kiara is 3rd behind Gura and Mori in views for all of EN. Again she has never been the runt as much as people want to make her out to be.

Word on the streets is that Selen from Nijisanji is in the hospital after her manager beat her into critical condition, and she might not make it. What a fucked up Christmas.

>>65440905
>a lot
She went on a single podcast twice across 2 years and was in 1 tournament sponsored by Shadowverse. A podcast that was sponsored and owned by a business partner of Holo at that. She also hosted 1 award show.

>>65440899
>it suggests that they sold a ton immediately on Geekjack then has crawled along since.
Because the goods were shilled to 16k people
What part of this do you guys just simply not understand?

>>65440870
In the context of HoloEN? yea. She has been. Since day 1. Obviously many small streamers would kill to get the numbers she does but compared to her peers? She is.

>>65441000
wasted trips. NO one in her family is good. Same aunt that gets a car is the one who left her on the side of a rode, dipshit.

>>65440889
>random Gura seethe
Is this some gotcha? Gura is at least top three in spending stupid amounts of her own money on personal projects.

>>65439936
That was a damn good weekend.
https://archive.palanq.win/vt/thread/57023717

>>65440612
Fauna's sub growth is fucked up because she'd rather do let's plays that get 30k views instead of ASMRs which are the fucking thing she was hired for, not cause of whatever cope you're on

>>65440974
Kiara spent $15k on a suit and had to pay her tax bills on top of that in the same month.

>>65440776
kiara takes up like every sponsorship and has good SCs tho. she gets a shit ton from those sponsorships probably, same with bae who accepts like every sponsor

>>65440213
i just don't think the trackers used are reliable enough to do placements of course she's making a shitload of money.

>>65440543
https://www.tokopedia.com/hololivepro

>>65440794
>>65440905
In the current day, I am ambivalent to Mori. I don't outright hate her like I used to, but at the same time, I can't just like her. Her voice and mannerisms are still annoying to me. Plus, it feels weird seeing her doing the opposite of what she wanted just a year ago. It feels fake. Maybe she really has changed though. I want to give it a bit more time before I have a real opinion of her again.

>>65441040
Fix your broken English first before answering

>>65441033
2nd in superchats. Middle in Memberships. 3rd in Views. Am i missing something? Like she's not even last. Does this thread only care about subs and CCV. Cause she's not even last there either. Am I tripping?

>>65441052
What projects?

>>65441021
Please actually read my post before you respond defending your Chicken. She WAS a runt in comparison to all the others back then. I wouldn't call her one now.

>>65441064
>ASMRs which are the fucking thing she was hired for
ASMR is the lewdtuber's domain, I'm glad she dialed that back.

>>65440612
>fauna fucked over by shitty model
I think she's very pretty uuu

>>65441052
Let's be real, one of those was an anime OP for her streams that she's used MAYBE 20 times in total

>>65441085
I'm ambivalent too. Currently i've decided to stop skipping songs and guests appearances she's in, which does make life nicer.

>all of this forced HoloEN seethe
Why are they trying so hard?

>>65441127
She already said she'd go back to doing more of them once the puddle arc is officially over

How bad are things for NijiEN right now you might ask? Well, so bad that apart from a sus-looking hour block of streams they're pretty much getting mogged by Holostars EN.

>>65440983
Yeah but going on multiple international holidays is a sign of being fairly upper class. Like specialist doctor, higher end of management, probably owns a couple investment properties and gets their kid a car for their 18th level.

>>65441109
Animated projects that are of significantly higher quality and requiring significantly a lot more work and money to produce than static image MV slop.

>>65438254
Reaper!

>>65441098
Imagine detracting to fucking grammar when you can't win an argument. You might just be Ame's aunt with the level of misdirect you're throwing out

Why are people so upset at the prospect of Promise selling well that they refuse to use their brain?

>>65441105
kiara has pretty bad membership numbers if you just look at her raw interactions with polls and member posts compared to other members

>>65438086
STOP LAUGHING AT ME YOU STUPID BRAT

>>65439268
Drama whores feasting on YabSanji's endless buffet of yabs. Sasuga wa DramaSanji

>>65441139
Based and same. She's the cutest

>>65441052
>Projects
Such as?

>>65441196
Selen graduation deflection

>>65440935
Anon. Her aunt wasalways the good one to her. Her mom was the one that was kinda iffy. Ame said nothing but good about her aunt though

Why are people talking shit about HoloEN all of the sudden?

>>65441162
Oh yeah, we're totally gonna start seeing those projects any day now!

>>65441143
What's the gotcha now? She isn't even getting her money's worth on the assets she spends on?

>>65441206
She is literally on par with IRyS based on the charts posed here. I know those won't be totally accurate but you're being delusional.

So Selen's yab was gone, just like that?

>>65441234
Try watching her without the dorito chip. She was given multiple ultimatums and was thrown out plenty of times

>>65441225
Yea now watch as they start to steer it toward a en v jp argument

>>65441240
Being obtuse and a faggot isn't going to make the state of NijiEN any better.

#JUSTICEFORSELEN
BLACK CORPO FORCES HER INTO A HOSPITAL

>>65439611

>>65441259
NTA but the charts using numbers from stream chat will never be accurate because members that streams less will naturally have lesser members in their chat. (Gura, Ina, Mumei, Kronii etc)

>>65441276
For now, the apostrophe debacle was pretty much discarded once they realized Selen herself uses phone and PC for Twitter, which give different symbols to it.
If Filian cancels next friday's event, then real shit happening

Maybe Selen has that Stockholm's Syndrome thing that she can't see Nijisanji was abusing her. That's why she didn't even want to leave

>>65441280
Yeah, because she was a fucking freeloading mooch who never tried to better herself. She'd literally be dead in the street or on Onlyfans (again) if she hadn't lucked into Hololive.

>>65441349
That's now how SS works

>>65441325
I kinda hope the cover and Selen would come back, so that I can see # having a melty

>>65441324
its all you have unless u want to manually go through each members post and look at the like and poll numbers (in that case there isn't much difference anyways aside from gura)

>>65441153
some sudden emergency meeting for all nijien to stop streaming and attend?

>>65441060
Glorious moment and Kronii still got shat on kek

>>65441276
Well yeah. Nijisanji already said they're going to reimburse her for everything and give her a free song cover production plus 2 intercompany tournaments plus one 3% merch run plus an expedited 3D model plus home 3D plus free trip to Japan.
You cannot argue they didn't go above and beyond to resolve this, which turned out to be the interns mistake (it was his first day).

>>65441085
I agree with everything you said. I dont cringe anymore when shes in a collab i wanna watch, even if she can be cringy. Would she be my first pick for a collab with my oshi? No. Not even top 10. But i would watch it instead of skipping if one did come up. Just a bit more time i guess like you said

>>65441406
>aster aia still were streaming
>Maria and Scarle streaming soon too

>>65438130
Uhh looks like I missed something if I am getting the rrat right this is really something lmao.

>>65441060
Total nijivermin extermination

>>65441355
I guess she did luck into hololive but I do think she was the right person for the right moment to make myth as successful as it was. It worked out well for everyone involved

>>65441139
The cutest. Her casual and hoodie further cements that fact

>>65441325
I wonder if filian will hold her tongue and be professional if it does end up being canceled without a word from selen

>>65441052
how new?

>>65441425
This is probably one of the best cases of # being btfo

>>65441139
if anything the worst model in promise is mumei who just looks like a generic anime side character

>>65441449
aia?

>>65441495
Well she's at 0 risk. You know she knew about the song shit going on, and probably asked if they're still good for Friday
No one knew about the collab beyond her and Selen, and if she had any doubts, she could have just not mentioned it. Her bringing it up and affirming it is a silver lining in this shit fiasco

>>65441384
What? Why would we give a shit. This whole debacle already provided enough juicy material.

>>65441534
Sorry, but I can't agree with you. As a thighCHAD, Mumei has some of the best in Hololive. On that same token, Kronii, outside of the tits, has terrible proportions, especially her thighs.

>>65441548
Not the same stream dumbass

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TPvTmm5X-1U

https://twitter.com/tanigox/status/1740217842744922373

>>65441276
She is being traded to Hololive for a conditional 4st round pick in next year's vtuber draft and some of Roboco's machine oil.

>>65441548
was it a struggle session?

>>65441515
Lol

>>65441242
anon anyone asking for gura projects like that is not doing it in good faith. dont bother replying to them

>>65441325
>next friday
There's still supposed to be an event announcement this weekend.

>>65441534
Mumei's base outfit/model is crap and the rigging leaves alot to be desired but she has some of the best outfits in hololive.

Taiwan bros we're eating good today

So what was the email about that everyone had to stop streaming?

>>65441139
Nta I think it's cute but it really lacks expressive capabilities, especially if you compare it to one like Mori's

>>65441638
Man, Towa's thighs are dangerously sexy...

>>65441629
Up to selen honestly, she reasonably was not present for the Rosemi collab, or the Zen/Nerissa/Reimu collab, so she doesn't really need to try and recoup the other streams

>>65441384
The only ones having a melty are you nijikeks, and that would still be true even if Selen were to be back tomorrow like nothing happened. Seeing you subhumans tearing each other apart was very entertaining.

>>65441638

Will Marine reach 3M before january?

>>65441534
I love Mooms but i gotta agree there. When they were first revealed all i remember thinking was that she was a bland adventure girl. Obviously her outfits easily help fix that but on OG designs. Yea. I agree

>>65441629
i dunno. it sounds like she had a serious accident. don't think she'll be out of the hospital by saturday

>>65441579
You new here? We hate it when we're btfo out by Nijisanji, Vshojo, and Phase Connect. Taking L's from all the big EN companies while Hololive declines infuriates us like nothing else.

>>65441677

>>65441672
Isn't that up to the rigger then?

>>65437809
Once again, I emphasise, the power of the STORY ARC.
Selen has a story behind her.
Thrice and more has she been fucked over by management.
The public is currently hyper aware and discussing their most latest fuckup.
If they toss her out now (or if she leaves) it will be the story climax of the century.

>>65441548
>it's this easy to get retards to fall into narrative
Was supposed to be the NijiEN RP GTA collab, she probably didn't set up the shit properly and just ditched it

>>65440813
>>65441029
Is this some weird attempt to try and discredit merch numbers by acting as dumb as possible? The tiniest amount of critical thinking would benefit you well anon.
For a comparison, the plushies had 15% of the stock they do on the offical store, which is pretty consistant with every single other number we have gotten from this

>>65441691
mumei's new years outfit is literally the best outfit in vtuber history

>>65441686
Nah. She just ticked up but there's still 30k left in 3 days.

>>65441727

>>65441686
early jan next year

>>65441534
She's so popular here that I rarely say this, but I agree completely. It's not a bad model, just incredibly bland and generic. Genuinely looks like a trash pull from a gacha game.

>>65439936
Kek this one was amazing, i remember that thing broke some niji numbernigger redditard's mind so hard he had to write up a longass apology

>>65441672
Tbf EVERYONE is lacking when compared to Mori's rigging. Wtf is up with those eyes man.

>>65440543
Idcucks don't buy merch

>>65441720
Oh nyoooo. Im melting!

>>65441732
I'm edging so hard. COME ON DADDY RIKU LET ME CUM

>>65441759
It's really, really good. I prefer Subaru's myself. Amelia, Noel, Flare and IRyS are up there too. Kiara's is good too, honestly.

>>65441720
kek bizzaro /vt/

>>65441759
I dont disagree on that. I was just saying her OG is...lacking.

>>65441732
People are also actively discussing just how much of a bootlicker Nijifags are because they’re actively defending the company over Selen on twitter.
I’m not sure sisters realize it but in the west there’s a general strong anti-corpo sentiment.

>>65441749
I like how you bring up the plush when they fucking stocked 7.5k for Fauna in the holopro shop but you genuinely think a starting stock or 1k (at most) for the acrylic stands in gj were too fucking much when it was literally around the same stock numbers as the acrylic stands

>>65441749
nta but i just hate kronii and mumei so i've been trying to push that those merch numbers are real so kronii and mumei in particular look bad

I wonder if YouTube would give Cover talents special treatment if it wasn't based on Japanese culture, which YouTube doesn't like. No other group has provided YouTube with so much superchat revenue and they are the largest group to prop up YouTube streaming.

>>65441909
>I hate Mumei
Fuck off

>>65438086
Kys indog

>>65441787
There was a time I was really sad Mori ended up being... Mori, I guess . I really liked her model and enjoyed her early days.

>>65441892
>Actively
>Actively
load up thesaurus.com and find some new words SEAdog
Also it's normal for there to be retards who go for the brand, and those that go for the talent
Back in Coco's huimilation month, there were people who thought she had to go the minute she did her pube shaving stream, and whatever management did to her was a-okay with them to "protect the talent"

Unironically if Mumei was outselling Fauna on geekjack people wouldn't be arguing this, by the way.

>>65441778
I mean, looking at the other replies there are other anons who will agree with you. Its just that criticism recently has been used as attacks on the threads favorites so ofcourse anons will fight you to the death on that. Fortunately we seem to be very peaceful right now so we can discuss it as adults. And yea. Mooms has the "worst" in Promise. Best New Years outfit though

>>65441949
Maybe Mori just needs good fuck, she has been coombaiting so much lately

>232k watching
what the fuck
peanuts-kun, your response?!

>>65441906
>acrylic stands
Same amount of stock numbers as the plush*

>>65441967
its totally normal for geekjack to be outselling holoshop i guess even when its the sole exception and has never happened before!

>>65441992
Maybe if she loses some more weight...

>>65441534
SHINPURU IZZU BESUTO

This Selen yab isn't roasting as well as i thought. Did Nijikeks gave up defending their black corpo?

Reminder that when Fauna wins, Mumei wins and when Mumei wins, Fauna wins.

>>65441934
tell me why i should like her when she barely streams and doesn't have any standout content

>>65442015
You fucking say that as if people have ever been keeping proper track of stocked goods on GJ

>>65442026
Most dragoons are far more patient than others, and will simply wait for Selen to update them. If this was Mori or Kronii, we'd have plenty to cook for weeks