/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

>>6527565
Which of them would enjoy getting her tits sucked the most?

>>6527565
HoloEN2
>Avril
>Miley Cyrus
>Selena Gomez
>sojacat
>billie ellis

>>6527565
https://www.youtube.com/c/xyaro/featured

Whomever cover got for the next team, they were probably never vtubers before.

>>6527565
Whoever they pick it'll just be Jp gen 6 branded as EN gen 2

>>6527565
kyoresu
LittleNii
EileMonty
Selphius

>>6527565
Koopas chances of getting in are increasing

>>6527565
If all of them were not vtuber before I would kneel

>>6528197
Imagine if she actually got in
How will she treat the place that made her once she made it?

>>6528045
I feel bad for kiara

Snuffy
Coco
Haachama
Ironmouse
Zentreya
Ollie

It's gonna be five bilingual Japanese streamers / content creators.

did Miki became NijiEN2?

>>6528641
looks like it, content already nuked and private twitter

>>6527565
Dokibird still has a chance if she hadnt made it into NijiEN

>>6528046
Selphy would be nice, idk the rest.

>>6528431
For sure. The days of someone like Amelia and Gura making it into Hololive are over.

>>6530169
If it worked n, why changed it?

5 jp girls who are fluent in English

>>6527565
I want to see Dakooters get in HoloEN2, just to see the trainwreck this place would become

>>6530222
They are for sure getting super "high-spec" people applying now, given the success of holoen. As a result, there's no reason to accept people like Gura or Amelia again. They can find someone like Amelia, but can also draw, sing play video games well, and also speaks Japanese too.

>>6527565
Who's namirin?

>>6530357
Dakooters would fit a lot better in NijiEN

>>6530408
Irys

Now's the time for doomposting again.

>>6527565
Honestly, at this point HoloEn 2 became more secretive and sort of a wildcard Thani expected.

>>6527565
Callmecarson
Kevin spacey
James charles
Lionmaker

KANA IS IN

>>6530531
>all pedophiles
They're probably all chumbuds.

Could my dream of an opera singer holo be coming true?

>>6530624
How do you know?

>>6529869
Wasn't it nuked after graduation?

>>6530531
Such a shame Epstein had to graduate before his debut.

>>6528046
selphius would be great

>>6531035
if it was, i didnt notice until now. Im sure the twitter going private is fairly recent

>>6530169
Gura and Amelia are the two most popular ENs though? Why wouldn't they want to repeat that success?

Can we get Kaho Shibuya on the show?

>>6530375
I think you're overestimating how many of those people actually exist and are interested in becoming vtubers. Being able to speak Japanese is going to matter less and less with more EN members to fill in holes for big branch collabs and events.

>>6528046
While Selphy would be nice, I kinda can't picture her doing it. Maybe if they do a German branch sure, but while she can speak English fluently she rarely does English streams.

>>6531144
You ready for all them beat-em-ups, motherfucker?

>>6527565
>nijien2
when?
who?

>>6529985
>>6531096
Selphy will never do it because she's one of those "waaah I don't wanna be restricted by a boss" type, despite her streams literally just being about her sex life (supposedly she doms her bf) and politics. Also probably too normie to enjoy idol culture.

Your first mistake is thinking they're going for names you're familiar with. Ina and Gura were arguably the most well-known prior, and Ina only joined because she was a holo megafan. Gura was streaming once a month before she joined.

>>6528046
LittleNii came back after her "long break" 2 days ago so that's unlikely

You need to realize that there will be no Holo EN 2 for a while. Irys was the last gem in the rough in the West. The indie well has been tapped dry, there is basically nobody worthwhile who can meet their standards and doesn't have a ton of baggage. The only way they can fill the spots now is by stealing them from other agencies or by teaching a JP basic English so they can pretend to be EN.

do people not understand that the chubbas announcing graduations are niji since cover doesn't force graduation or discontinue previous lives
the holo canidates will be ones that slowed down content or stopped posting content in the last month and are running non obvious opsec

>>6531119
By what metric is Ame the (2nd?) most popular EN? Even if we take Gura out of the equation, Mori beats her on subs and channel views (music), and Ina beats her on average live viewers.

>>6531035
I added her opening song to a playlist 2-3 weeks ago, the day IRyS was announced I checked the channel and it had no content. The song is still there, so maybe everything is just unlisted.

I used to joke that EN2 would consist of takos and deadbeats, but now I'm 100% convinced it's gonna be all chumbuds.
None of the predictions besides IRyS came true, it's gonna be some really high-spec women that noticed vtubing and Hololive because of Gura.

>>6531774
I think you're right. What if that piano girl got in. That would be hot

>>6531367
All signs point to a late July release for HoloEN2 though. They need to cheer people up and retain their audience after Coco leaving (and IRyS alone isn't enough). There is also too much shit going on in August and September to do debuts around then.

>>6532061
Surely they need to wait for a while after irys to let the hype potential build up again?

>>6532061
What else is going on in september besides HoloEN anniversary, which would be a perfect opportunity?

>>6532121
Back to school in many countries as well as the tokyo oympics. So they either debut holoEN gen2 late july or do it right after in mid September when things have calmed down.

>>6532183
I’m leaning towards mid September, considering all the compound events as of late.

HoloEn gen 2:
Namie (Ina's friend, aussie)
Ririsya (Mori's friend, nips)
Wrestle Man (Kiara's friend, nips)
Gura's 10yo neighbour
Thirsty amefag that want to eat ame's pussy

I'm still unsure that the niji penguin is shachi

>>6527565
Nina has a shot now

>>6532297
She didn't apply.

>>6531876
> Taiwanese working for cover as talento
Not in a million years

>>6532431
They have Taiwanese investors. Not Chinese. A major chunk that dono Coco were Taiwanese. There's also a lot of Taiwanese chumbuds

>>6528274
This garbage board doesn't deserve recognition, I hope ignores it entirely

>>6527565
Koopa Fortuna

>>6527565
Don't tell me my wild pick made it in

>>6532561
Rumao

>>6527565
They will grab another artist like ina, and... I don't know, EN famous vtubers pool are really running low. Any chance they will grab ex-Niji india noor / aadya?

Me
me
mE
ME
(not you)

>>6531144
I'm honestly Kaho Shibuya can still put herself out there after some of her scenes.

>nijien2 already
Anycolor please stop, you are just going to kill the niji EN market by diluting the liver pool with debuts every month

>>6532921
Quantity over Quality has always been the Manjisanji motto

>>6532921
Isn't that their whole modus operandi though?

>>6532921
Liverpool can get fucked

>>6532471
You think the chinks will care? They think Taiwan is a part of China so having a Taiwanese will just give them another excuse to spam. The smart things to do is don’t get involved with them at all, don’t hire any Chinese or Taiwanese.

>>6532993
hi Zhang

>>6532297
She essentially debunked it yesterday, its gonna be a group of friends for her or (probably, heavily implied) HoloEN #3.

>>6531367
The mistake everyone is doing is assuming that HoloEN will be vtubers streaming on yt and it shows how heavily restricted the choice is there for what they could be looking for

>>6531242
Selphius would be dumb not to apply but to each their own

>>6527782
Screencap this, e-celebs and celebs are jump in to vtuber scheme because they are more profitable than current music industry

>>6538224
Didn't two twitch thots try it, pokimane and that one high pitched korean girl, insisted they weren't trying to leech off of holoEN debut success/ Holo rising popularity in the west and then never use their 2d models again after it never caught on despite them insisting they were using it cause using your real face gets annoying.

e-celebs will fucking choke and fail to leech

>>6532921
Welcome to nijisanji

>Didn't two twitch thots try it, pokimane and that one high pitched korean girl, insisted they weren't trying to leech off of holoEN debut success/ Holo rising popularity in the west and then never use their 2d models again after it never caught on despite them insisting they were using it cause using your real face gets annoying.
>e-celebs will fucking choke and fail to leech

>>6527565
Dokibird
Marica
Kyoresu
EileMonty
Athena Nightingale
Kimino Miya
Chiika

Possibly...

>>6539993
>Dokibird
NijiEN Gen2

>>6540484
Oh yeah.. My bad

>>6527565
The real question is, how many people thought that people like Calli and Ame were gonna become members of Holomyth? Why are we assuming that En2 will be former vTubers and not literal whos in different field that have spent 8 years clawing their way to 15k youtube subs?

Who are some real unknown darkhorse candidates, possibly with little to no streaming experience but talents in other fields out there you'd want to see become En2?

>>6528197
>Koopa
Let's not be delusional

>>6527565
wait? who are the three NijiEN2 roommates? we already know?

>>6542634
The consensus is that
Rosemi = Miki
Selen = Dokibird
Petra = Shachi
I saw valid arguments against Petra being Shachi, though, like the fact that Petra is a huge Nijifan who became giddy when her oshi followed her, while Shachi never seemed to care about Niji all that much.

>>6542945
So Miki went Niji ... interesting. Hololive really must be pulling some crazy grade A talents we haven't heard of...

>The consensus is that
>Rosemi = Miki
>Selen = Dokibird
>Petra = Shachi
>I saw valid arguments against Petra being Shachi, though, like the fact that Petra is a huge Nijifan who became giddy when her oshi followed her, while Shachi never seemed to care about Niji all that much.

>>6530169
>Ame second most popular

Mori beats her in channel views, SC, and subs.

>>Ame second most popular
>Mori beats her in channel views, SC, and subs.

>>6538224
Depends on how good is your personality. Why do you think Melody beat all the Chaturbate whores? Her model is not that sexy.

OP is assuming that everyone applying are all former vtubers

>>6543418
>>6531638
I agree with Mori being the 2nd most popualr, that's a given. But don't kid yourselves about Ina. Ame beats her in every metric, including maximum live viewers at one time, total VOD views, overall superchats earned, average stream viewership since debut and total subscribers. All you have to do is check a numberfag thread and find an graph which shows from the time debut until this july, or even just check playboard. Pic related is dated by a week but even that holds up.

>>6542310
Cover had music covered with IRyS. All they need now is people who could play games or do other things. Writing & Reading ASMR, Chess player, literal retired pro gamer

>>6531173
Ollie and Reine never streamed in English either despite being fluent in it.

>>6529910
People seem pretty confident she's in the 2nd wave as the dragon.

>>6531367
Kiara and Calli weren't vtubers, Ame was a literaly (who?) and Ina was only known for her art. Twitch scene seems a little dry? Doesn't matter.

>>6532728
Noor works for Niji corporate now, she was part of the interview process for Niji EN.

>>6532061
Highly disagree, it'll be after the HoloEN 1 year anniversary. I honestly think there will be a big 1 year collab around then, followed by another youtube countdown > trailer.

Now that 1 and possibly 2 of the people that were rumored to be EN2 candidates are off the board I'm actually kind of excited to see who they recruit. I really didn't want them to just recycle existing vtubers, as there are enough variety streaming vtubers with no particular talent already.

>Now that 1 and possibly 2 of the people that were rumored to be EN2 candidates are off the board I'm actually kind of excited to see who they recruit. I really didn't want them to just recycle existing vtubers, as there are enough variety streaming vtubers with no particular talent already.

if gen2 gets succefull as gen1 i feel like ame will leave

>>6544248
Why would she, Anon? She doesn't want to go back to being poor again. She loves Hololive.

>>6532921
foock liverpool, me and the lads support fullham!

>>6530357
Dakooters is based, but as the other anon said she's a better fit for Niji. Dunno if Cover would ever try having a trans talent considering how they separate branches by gender.

>>6544182
Lets stop thinking indie vtubers. What are other fields they could poach from, maybe Yagoo gets creative and we end up with a booktuber or a cooking youtuber. Remember technically speaking gEN had zero actual vtubers, it was a random assortment of girls. But none were exclusively vtubers.

>>6544328
Any actual trannies in Nijisanji. There is a difference between being LGBT friendly in Japan and having tranny vtuber in the west where LGBT is politicized as fuck.

>>6543263
Anon please suicide immediately, every fucking thread you post this kind of shit and it isn't funny at all, go back to fucking reddit

>Any actual trannies in Nijisanji. There is a difference between being LGBT friendly in Japan and having tranny vtuber in the west where LGBT is politicized as fuck.

>Anon please suicide immediately, every fucking thread you post this kind of shit and it isn't funny at all, go back to fucking reddit

>>6544359
>or a cooking vtuber
>no chuubas with a focus on baking or cooking yet
>most of them seem to be unable to even put a sandwich together
It'd be quite refreshing, although I sincerely doubt that will happen in the current formats.

>>6527565
Why are people looking for popular vtubers when most of HoloEN gen 1 was unexpected?

>>6531257
Also no one expected Ina to become a Holo

>>6532253
>Wrestle Man (Kiara's friend, nips)

>>6542945
>Rosemi = Miki
>Selen = Dokibird
>Petra = Shachi
Weren't literally all of these the prime candidates for Holo EN2 that everyone was saying? Jesus, Niji either has a much better offering that Holo, or Holo has some CRAZY hiring standards. I'm not that dissapointed about Shachi tho, we don't need a 2nd Gura in Holo EN.

>>6544695
Where's the reject poster when we most need him

>>6527565
Just give me a brit, aussie or even a scandinavian or frenchie or something. Anything other than more americans.

>>6542310
>Why are we assuming that En2 will be former vTubers and not literal whos in different field that have spent 8 years clawing their way to 15k youtube subs?
Because people are retards. HoloFive was also 4 literal who's but people forgot it

>>6544695
Hololive doesn't look that much into streamers, see HoloEN and HoloFive

>>6544723
>Anything other than more americans.
I'd really like HoloEN 2 to have people from all over Europe, and for 3 the commonwealth

>>6527565
Imagine turning down a guaranteed 1M+ subs with HoloEN2 to become a literal who for NijiEN2.

>>6544426
While that's true, I've never seen Dakooters being preachy or politicized. But I can see a bunch of dumbasses saying shit like "first company-backed trans vtuber" or something similar, and that would get tiresome instantly.

A big problem I have with NijiEN taking indie/small company vtubers is that it feels like a case of moving the chairs around in an already niche hobby rather than trying to expand the vtuber audience. It's the big reason why I'm hoping that Cover looks outside of established vtubers to fill up EN2 like they did for most of EN1. I want to listen to these voices for the first time and not know immediately that it's a 300 view indie vtuber that recently graduated.

>>6527565
I don't care who they get but they NEED to have a flat brown loli

I would kill for a master level chess chuba in EN2 since ollie can stream on chess.com. I would go back to doing my chess reps.

>>6544695
It's not the standards, it's the amount of applicants. Everybody wants a piece of the Hololive pie, because that's where the money and fame are. There has to be somebody decent among those that almost made it to Hololive, but ultimately didn't, and Nijisanji is their second best option, obviously. There has to be an upper limit to the number of defective "Gura clones" that can't sing to save their life that Hololive staff is going to bother with.

>>6545008
Is Ollie decent at chess? I don't watch that Zoomer, but I might actually tune in for Chess.

>>6544855
>implying any of them did
They're all Hololive rejects anon

>>6545127
Complete newbie but still better than the last en chess stream. Anna who is coaching her is at expert level so i guess it is worth watching.

>>implying any of them did
>They're all Hololive rejects anon

>>6544073
Noor has always been Niji staff. She just stopped being a part-timer vtuber now.

>>6544971
I'm hoping for a cute harpy, myself. And I hope pako is one of the artists they hire.

>>6528046
borgar

>>6544359
Amateur voice actresses, ASMR streamers, someone who plays fighting games,
maybe someone who plays an instrument? Might be a bit gimmicky, but having a Vtuber who plays like traditional jazz drums or like a classic violinist for streams would be pretty kino.

Twitch and Youtube are a vast ocean, I'm sure there are plenty of diamonds in the rough out there.

>>6545036
I don't know if you consider her Decent, but wasn't that literally Finana? I thought her previous identity was trying to ride off of "I was a HoloMyth finalist" before she got snatched up by Niji.

>>6530532
>Kana debuts henreader av
>accepted in HoloEN2
>new artist Amashiro Natsuki
>Gura and Nacho forced to acknowledge her existence

>>6531292
Didn't Namirin get a (new?) L2D and retired it mere months later?

>>6531402
Ichikara never done that either. There's soem of them that still have social presence doing the exact same thing they've been doing for years despite working at Nijisanji.
If you mean vtubing exclusively, that's a bit sketchier since even Cover has done that, but not always. (Kson, kind of, for a bit, but still did it regardless)

Hololive always has safe choice and risky one hiring new members. Just like older gens, they always have a members who has experience in streaming and a member who literally new in vtuber. So i think EN2 will has a former vtuber. The others would be somebody famous on other feild not vtubing.

>>6528274
She turned her back on this place, no one would be happy about it except dramafags

>>6546815
Oh actually I forgot AZKi, she counts as well.

>>6543984
They stream almost exclusively in english, jackass

>>6531402
Nah.. that was not a niji thing. It was just those chuubas tryana get their fanbase to follow them since it was pretty obvious. They basically said come and follow me to niji by graduated with that timing

why OP thinks ky0resu is becoming a Holo?

did she said something on her streams about becoming a fulltime vtuber or is just a rrat?

>>6528367
Imagine the smell

>>6545829
>this
Anons here are too narrow sighted. Holo has guaranteed success. They dont need to play it safe like nijiEN and go for the larger pool outside of chuubas. Here's at least my prediction for the type
>an experienced variety streamer/hag
>a gaming autist
>a hardcore weeb
>EN utaite like namirin but less active
>mori's friend
Lowkey i was hoping marina would auditioned and got accepted
>pic related

>>6530169
>>6530375

>Implying there is something wrong with Gura when she is literally the most popular vtuber in history

>>6548278
muh numbers
Numbers are worthless unless you have sticking power.
That said, for them to think she is worthless is rather naive.

>>6527565
Kimino Miya will be retiring
https://youtu.be/cHcHJLlJK0k

>>6548230
I agree with this prediction, especially on the gaming-autist front. Jp side has people like Aqua, Suisei (Tetris specific) and Botan, who you know are going to be competent to competitve in the games they play. Right now all 5 of EnGen1 are mediocre to downright painful to watch in most of the games they stream. Having someone good at gaming in EN would help break things up.
What do you mean by Mori's friend though? Do you mean the one who recommended her to try out for gen1?

>>6548230
>marina
Isn't she making her own youtuber

>>6543898
Ame's total output gives her a leg up in views.

Ina plays the slow game, nobody cares less about streaming numbers than an artist more work than tentacles

Calli is making as much off her music as her streaming at this point.

Kiara is complaining about her numbers and yet doing more views and hours watched than Ina. Get a grip birb, you're a success.

>>6548507
vtuber* I'm tired

>>6548447
Nah it isnt miya

>>6543898
318 streams?
damn ame's a pumper

>>6548488
>mori's friend
Im implying at least one of them would get in as per holo's nepo tradition
>>6548507
Is she? I hope not so there'll be a chance she join holo

Ame - twitch streamer that did a lot of varied stream with and without an avatar
Mori - MV maker, music, sometimes streamed with friends.
Ina - Art. Sometimes goofed off with an avatar
Gura - memer that sometimes streamed
Kiara - Cosplayer and YouTuber
Reine - utaite
Anya - a nobody
Ollie - vtuber
Irys - utaite that streamed with an avatar

There is a 1 in 9 chance a regular vtuber can get in. You have to be super charismatic like Ollie to get in.

>>6528046
Selphius won't happen, she just recently debuted an indie avatar, is primarily a German speaker (I've never heard her speak English though I've heard she's not as good as Kiara with it), and iirc she openly has a boyfriend

>>6548569
what if en2 debuts in September

>>6548669
>Is she? I hope not so there'll be a chance she join holo
https://twitter.com/KitsuneMarina
I will prefer her standard stream but with the avatar she might have the strenght and confidence to do a Karaoke stream

>>6548669
It's cronyism. None of them got special treatment. NND was a small world for otakus that sing and do otaku stuff. People knew everyone just like in every small YouTube community most especially because NND likes to do events. Every famous Niji that got in already knew someone as well. What is true is that some famous NND were specifically poached because they were famous streamers.

>>6548813
Anon, she's graduating October 1st. That's way too far off on the timeline.

>>6527565
One of them will be PotasticP. You heard it here first.

>>6549019
Yes, this mystical timeline we keep hearing about.

>>6549077
What talents does she posses apart from reacting to reddit memes with her boyfriend?

>>6531119
Uh, I'd argue Ame is the smallest EN atm. She has the 2nd most subs sure, but her videos do the worst out of all of them and she has the least amount of viewers. There are indies out there with ~200k subs whose videos are getting more views than Ame's currently are. It has been stated before, but her honeymoon phase is over and it's showing. Don't get me wrong, I enjoy Ame a lot, but people are really overselling her success.

>>6527565
medicate.
>>6530408
some nobody that anon convinced himself was irys before irys even debuted. kinda like how anon has convinced himself that aria is haato despite proof to the contrary.

>>6549198
Well, the pool of people to choose from is really small once you start asking for people to be bilingual and have god-tier talents like Ina for example. She has a great voice and loves playing around with it - much like Gura. She plays games. She has experience with streaming and has a large social media following. She has an interest in learning Japanese. She'd make a good vtuber desu, one that is focused on gaming.

>>6527565
lemonleaf
dudethatslewd
varyana
fallenshadow
>>6543445
>not that sexy
wrong
it's the tummy anon

>>6548230
Big chance it'll be anituber or utaite

>>6527782
>>6538224
take your meds

>>6527565

Shachimu is one.

>>6547583
He means on their previous identities retard

>>6548817
Aww man...

Why do people think they would be hiring people who are already vtubers?

>>6532322
Well she should’ve done, she’s really good.

>>6549912
isnt she that penguin?

Hmmmm so this is how it will be?

>>6543418
He wasn't talking about popularity, he was talking about Gura and Ame being EOPs in North America.

>>6545709
Why would nijisanji have a random Indian woman working for them before they made the IN branch? That just seems kind of weird, unless she happens to live in Japan and speak Japanese. I don't watch her so I don't know if that's the case.

>>6532061
>late July
>after IRys debuted

Retard, Meds immediately. If anything, September would be the date to look at for anticipating HoloEN2.

>>6531638
Ame's lower average liveview compared to Ina comes from her range of content. You can see when Ina goes out of her comfort zone her number will go down lower than Ame. But Actually this is some odd cases in both. For example, Oblivion streams' viewership went up lately despite being #10+ of the series.

>>6553625
Here's your update

>>6548740
Reine was a regular vtuber that did streams and such in addition to the music stuff.

>>6549325
I think it's more of the type of content, her MC and FPS streams are still going strong. What really proves her performance is when she stream out of comfort zone and still get a decent numbers. That's means her core fanbase is still increasing or at least keeps up with the turnover rate.

Here is a burning question, with Gen 2 coming out very soon(at least according to Calli), will the HoloeEns feel even less compelled to collab with the other up and coming agencies when they will have more members to to collab and play with?
I guess denying them any exposure is a good idea, but they need to at least have another Gen in the works to keep it going.

>>6544248
>if gen2 gets succefull as gen1
Oh it will be successful alright. Look at Irys. Almost half a million subs already, not even a week after debuting.
>I feel like she will leave
Hololive's a free money, why would she leave just because Gen.2's successful?

>>6544248
Ame doesn't care about success or money anon, she just doesn't want to be poor while she does the things finds fun.

>>6527565
Cover doesn't hire vtubers exclusively, the options are too many

Didn't a couple of indis who applied said that Cover is now exclusively looking for big time content creators?
Not even vtubers, but people who bring stuff to the table like music producing or professional artists.
I guess it makes sense that now why Ina is making more and more official art of Cover and Calli composing songs and music for their other projects, I guess eventually will want to have everything made inhouse, and not just hire random indis to stream.

>>6554679
>I guess eventually will want to have everything made inhouse, and not just hire random indies to stream.
Bingo

>>6530420
she would have to fucking stream first

>>6530375
the problem I see with that is Gura is now literally the most popular Vtuber. period. She can't speak japanese all that well but why would that make Hololive start restricting things?

>>6554679
IRyS probably has a shit ton of connections too, considering she has been making music for over a decade.
Not only can she make her own music, but will surely bring other stuff with her.

>>6527924
literally whom

>>6554193
I actually made that assumption but I can't really tell from that short sample of her voice, once I hear her laugh I'll be sure

>>6554679
>>6554738
>>6554866
>dime a dozen indies can't accept they weren't good enough to get in on their own charisma, so it must be that hololive is looking for content creators
>Amelia Watson

>>6554193
So, from these I recognize Sachi, Miki, Namirin and Posy. Who are the other 2?

So what kind of specializations do you expect EN2 to have? Gaming won't cut it anymore.

>>6555738
Mommy

>>6554679
I feel like going this route is going to take a lot of the soul out of Hololive. Amelia is a fan favorite, and you won't get any more of her kind of streamer if they just keep going for industry professionals.

>>6554679
it has to be a mix though. a talent they want in-house but also a decent streamer. like i can see them trying to bring a rigger in-house but not many of the good rigger make a good streamer. more likely we'll get more music talent than anything else. would be good if they have a non-weeb one for en2 to balance out irys.

>>6554679
That was the case for EN1 and the past couple JP generations too. They're not dismissing all indie chuubas, but they have to really impress or show a great deal of potential, and Ame apparently pulled that off in her audition. Gura was a big content creator who had two songs become huge viral memes, Ina was a talented professional artist who dabbled in vtubing as a hobby, Mori was a bilingual rapper, Kiara had experience in the idol industry and was trilingual.

>>6555908
if you want soul, watch nijisanji like most of us here do

>>6556618
You'll get hate for it but i can't get over how neutered some holo ens are even when compared to their previous identities.I think Ina is probably the biggest offender for me, she's never been on the extreme side but had way more charm etc, now she won't even say "weeb" etc or banter with people to avoid sounding offensive.She's still enjoyable to watch at times but she feels more like a person running kids' show rather than someone hanging out with you and doing their gaming/drawing reps in the background.

>>6554679
I wouldn't be surprised if Cover hires zero vtubers from the available talent pool just because most of their fans are probably already Hololive fans. It would make more sense to hire from other fields in the hopes that they can expand the fanbase with fresh faces and provide fresh content aside from what the usual vtuber brings to the table.

>>6554679
Hmmm. Ayumi might have a shot.

No more western women in Hololive please.

>>6530375
Utterly delusional

>>6548757

This is a dumb take and you should feel bad. Her english is just as good as Kiara and could easily be Kiara 2.0.

The right rrat would be if hololive has any desire for another Kiara to begin with.

>>6556795
All previous persona were ran by twitch/normal streamer-meta where you need to be extreme, more aggressive, more insulting to win. Hololive allowed them to revert back closer to normal people level. Isn't that cool?

>>6557982
>All previous persona were ran by twitch/normal streamer-meta where you need to be extreme, more aggressive, more insulting to win
>Ina
Holy fuck you are retarded

So what Hololie going to stream during NijiEN's debuts to completely mog them again?
Maybe that EN collab to kill the Ender Dragon or something from the JP side?

who was that vtuber that got betrayed by Calli again?

>>6548113
Someone posted here a few months ago claiming to be Kyoresu and that she made it through the first round of audition then an anon with Coco username reprimanded her for coming here and leaked stuff. Ever since then Holo fandoms had been keeping a very close eye on her.

>>6559581
I want the story of this

>>6548740
Anya is literally a waste of slot.

>>6548740
what was ame's channel?

What if we get an artist vtuber..

But!

She's an aspiring mangaka.

Weekly one shots and such. Might be cool.

>>6554092
>some genius thinks it's a good idea to expand Niji into India
>Noor is among the management hires
>whole thing quickly collapses because Pajeets couldn't give a fuck about vtubers
>Noor distinguishes herself by being literally the only person involved in the project who gave a fuck and tried her best to keep a lost cause afloat
>Niji keeps her around because of this even after NijiIN closes
Nothing too exotic about the whole story, honestly.

>>6555738
Gaming still can cut it, they just have to be really good at it.
Speedrunners? Top dogs?

>>6559947
What the fuck would they stream?

>>6559933
personal account got nuked but you can still see some zoo footage clips here and there. even a clip of her and her dog

and judging from the latest bug stream well.

>>6560106
pain and suffering

>>6560148
>you can still see some zoo footage clips here and there. even a clip of her and her dog
WHITE

>>6548813
>>6549019
Considering how little Miya streams it could be possible since it wouldn't be interfering much with Holo content, however she's confirmed she's not resurrecting

>>6559897
It definitely seems she'll be the last nobody to ever join Hololive

>>6552465
Only somewhat predictable ones, if you were to look at any content creator that's been doing less content than usual it's almost impossible to guess even one

>>6554193
So she's graduating a week after HoloEN 3's auditions are over?

>>6560714
Who do you think is gonna be in ID3 if they do that? Hana Macchiato is the only other ID vtuber who isn't a nobody.

>>6554679
>Not even vtubers, but people who bring stuff to the table like music producing or professional artists.
I mean, that's been the modus operandi for Cover for a while, consistently aiming higher than the previous gen so that the next auditions they get even better talents and hopefully previous talents catch up to them by the debuts of the new members

>>6560886
It's simple, they won't be looking ex vtubers at all

>>6528197
They're going to want someone who will be alive by next year at least

>>6560925
They started going off the rails with Gen4. Only Luna was considered a vtuber for her gen. Most were irl streamers that jad different stuff going on like live events and an utaite in Kanata. Gen 5 was a mix. Lamy was the only person we can say as a straight up vtuber. Botan has her gaming channel. Nene was involved in a multimedia channel and a former idol. Polka had several personas. One was a vtuber but that's not everything she did. Aloe was an utaite. ID2 only has Ollie as a vtuber. EN1 didn't have any vtubers in a traditional way. Ame technically isn't a vtuber. She had a 2D but she did stream without it.

>>6561329
Reine was a vtuber too, and higher subs count than ollie

>>6556126
Flare is the only one I can think of

>>6561488
Reine was a mix. She wasn't a vtuber first. She was more well known as an utaite. She's pretty much like Namirin that decided to stream but with her she decided to separate the personas. The same way Polka did. So the point is, even if they are vtubers, you simply can't get in with just that except if you had a really really really convincing interview and profile

Lets say Cover will hire content creator too, I can see they hire Rainych.

>>6561764
They need to have streamed at least in a low key way. All of them except for Anya and Subaru have streamed in some fashion.

>>6561329
>They started going off the rails with Gen4
How many former vtubers are in gens 1 - 3? I know of Korone, but who else?

>>6562105
Most of them weren't traditional vtubers but rather irl streamer that had OCs or PNGs. Many never showed their faces. I think Rushia, Fubuki, and Matsuri were the only one that did show her face. Noel, Mel, Choco, Aqua, Haachama and Pekora didn't show their faces but all had OCs that would stream showing their body. Ayame and Shion didn't show any at all. Just used their voices. Subaru and Roboco apparently had no knowledge of streaming at all.

>>6528197
Naaaa I don't see it. I want it to but I don't see it happening

>>6562311
Mind you this is the early stages and vtubing weren't as lucrative as vtubing with a model. So many only bothered with creating their own 2D persona but didn't have a live 2D. All though except Subaru, Sora and Roboco were technically streamers. The shift of scouting people that were content creators first and streamer second happened with Gen4.

>>6562311
The closest gen composed of random nobody indies is what, gen 2? I don't think Hololive's changed its recruitment style much, they just have much higher profile applicants nowadays.

>>6562470
Gamers is arguably made out of people who used to be content creators first and streamers second, if talents like Coco or Towa fall under the category of the former.

>>6562736
Korone and Okayu were streamers. Mio was the content creator. Gen2 had all streamers except for Subaru. It didn't matter that they were nobodys. The fact that they are streamers means they were focusing on getting streamers. Gen4 was the only one that wasn't majorly composed of streamers. Kanata, Towa, Watame and Coco all fall in a category of content creators that streamed. Only Luna was the dedicated streamer. The only case you can make is that they hired more well known streamers in Gen3. They could have done the same for Gen4 but they went a different route and thus you got the asacoco route.

>>6562941
>irl streamers who participate in live events
That's pretty much a description of Okayu and Korone's NND activities though

>>6563088
So what's your point? They were famous streamers. It was a no brainer to get the pair because they were famous to have great chemistry together. Live events only tells you that there was demand for them. Watame for one was streaming lowkey but was more focused in releasing covers. So was Kanata. Towa was more of a performer. Coco was a cosplayer that streamed. You can see that they shifted gears after Gen3.

>>6548511
Anon she literally said that it wasn't about numbers but about something internal when it came to Sparks production

>>6559581
They weren't one. If you're thinking of MilkyQueen, she's the one who turned Mori around on idols, not the friend who was also applying for HoloEN as far as I know.

>>6561329
Botan was also quite versed into the vtuber world, she had two personas vtubers before Botan so it's not nothing new for her, she even released merch with the last one alongside the rest of her group of that time and those videos are still up, besides of her gaming channel ofc.

So strictly speaking she has 3 channels, gaming one which is still up, and two of Vtubers one of which has been erased but the other is still up alongside it's twitter account. (Which is privated)

>>6563484
Yeah. I'm aware of her vtuber alts back then. There's even one archive still alive in Yomi's channel where you can watch her play Apex. She's pretty much like Polka in a way thay she has multiple acts with varying successes. It did bulk up her resume. She's not exactly just a vtuber.

>>6557930
She doesn't speak japanese which kind of doesn't make her a fit for Kiara at all.
Also her accent is quite a bit stronger than Kiara's.

And even if you want to shitpost about Kiara, why wouldn't want Cover want another Holo that streams a lot and consistently pulls high SC?

>>6563339
Point is you're using an arbitrary distinction as to what you consider to be a content creator vs being a streamer. So far it seems that content creation = singing, so you could've just said that instead.

>>6539993
>Athena Nightingale
Sophii...

>>6527782
epic

>>6563717
You are considered a content creator if a bulk of your content comes from uploaded content. If you only stream then you are streamer. Majorly of all the girls that was hired prior to gen 4 all have content that were 99% just streams. That's it. Not even highlights. They would occasionally upload a cover. Only Watame and Kanata had a majority of their content based on the niche that they chose. Only Towa and Coco heavily relied on external activities outside of their streams for community activity. You are retarded to make a jump to say that just because all of them sing or did live events that they are all the same. Korone for one has always been the retro gamer. This SMOK dynamic on stream has always been a thing minus Subaru.

I hope cover hires complete trash for EN2 so the branch dies.

>>6527565
HoloEN probably got ex MyHoloTV which is filthy SEAniggers

>>6563596
>Also her accent is quite a bit stronger than Kiara's.
Not that guy, but have you actually heard her in an English stream lately? It'd be easy to mistake her for a native English speaker. Compared to Kiara who obviously is not.
Go watch her Phasmophobia with FiwiTV vod. She speaks English for the majority of it. She struggles to remember a couple words sometimes but her accent is unnoticeable most of the time.

Being a professional voice actor probably helps them be aware of accents and teaches how to overcome them.

>>6538785
I dont know who your refering to with the high pitched korean girl but at least with pokimanes case she clearly wouldn't have had time to commission someone to make her model in a few days, she likely had that in the works for a few weeks before holoEN was announced and most people didn't know they'd be a success like they ended up being.
also she never used her model again because both outsiders and insiders of her community complained about it.

>>6555716
I cant imagine how hard Amelia smashed that fucking audition to be picked over thousands of others lmao.

>>6564691
If there is something that Amelia has, it's flexibility to try all sorts of things and maintain an engagement and enjoyment of said things. She loves doing this, a lot, being able to make money doing it and getting a lot of eyeballs on it is her living her best life.

>>6538224
there's easier and less dicks to suck too

>>6564691
gura and ame were a packaged deal i believe

>>6534798
Agreed

>>6545036
They are kinda dumb for not waiting for second EN gen auditions and trying again. Nene applied several times before she got accepted, so did Suisei.

>>6527782
Big if true

>>6566044
Nene wasn't technically rejected. She just assumed that she was because the message was that if you were chosen you will receive a call in 2 weeks. She didn't so she religiously sent a new application on the dot every 2 weeks until she got an interview. She got in on her first interview. The delay in response was probably because of the amount of applications were a lot for gen 5. It was 1:1200. Suisei was never rejected. She got in as well but decided to decline because she wanted to keep her persona.

Nemurin will return in HoloEN2.

>>6532297
I really dont get why Nina didnt apply. She seems like the most slam dunk pick for EN2. Plus shes Euro time zone which is something EN needs more of desperately

>>6565720
I don't see how that could possibly be true. How badly would Cover have needed to want either Gura or Ame for them to accept the other even thought they weren't planning on taking her? Sure we can imagine them having that kind of leverage with the benefit of 20/20 hindsight, but not pre-debut. I also couldn't really imagine either of them having the balls to pull something like that off.

>>6553227
That's not confirmed yet, just suspected.

>>6527565
Why do you care about a vtubers past?
Just focus on the now

It's gonna be a group of people with all different past experiences with maybe one prior vtuber in the bunch. Cover doesn't just grab a bunch of indie vtubers and call it a day, HoloEN1 wasn't a bunch of indie vtubers, they all did different shit prior to hololive. If you're just looking at indie vtubers for the potential picks for EN2 you're probably gonna be way off.

Just your reminder that Dakooters hasn't posted in 7 months.

>>6527565
pewdiepie's wife

>>6555738
>Gaming doesn't cut it
They really need one or two gamers in their midst. Gura and Calli is bad at games. Ame does fuck all and plays platformers. Ina is too busy and does mario as a side quest. Kiara is playing JRPGs ffs.

>>6565720
Don’t think this is true. If it is, it’s really shitty of Ame pushing Gura away.

>>6566944
I her rrats that dakooters is a tranny, but never seen any proof. Doesn't sound particularly masculine either, what the source of that claim?

Daisuke Tashiro will be in Holostars EN. Screencap this.

>>6566440
>>6567023

they are long time friends

>>6567023
it's not really surprising since ame knows the internet knows her face, one stalker is enough to put clues together.

>>6567814
What stream was this from?

>>6567993
It's from a jap magazine interview.

>>6567814
for this to be "long time friends" it would have to have happened before they were hired by hololive

>>6549400
Yet, this time the debut proved the rrat correct.

Yes

>>6529985
ky0resu
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DRAzyn891mY

>>6527565
It'll probably be a bunch of random indies/artists/etc who people here wouldn't give a second glance at before retroactively declaring to have been amazing talents all along after their debut (so like Ame, Kiara, and Calli).

>>6530375
I believed the "after the success of EN1, Cover will raise the bar and only amazing supertalents will get in"-meme too for a while, but that was maybe just selfdelusion, because I'm rather disappointed that the first new english talent after gen1 is N*mirin for Vsinger. Don't get me wrong, she's ogey and probably a nice girl, but talentwise she's just "good" but far from the "holy shit I'm blown away"-level I was expecting. Even "just" in the field of semi-amateur youtube utaites there's a dozen better singers than her, and let's not even go into the level of actually trained professionals (which Cover probably still can't attract, or didn't look for in the first place).

>>6527924
He probably an hero'd
also >dudes getting into HoloEn

>>6569299
i went back and looked at ame and kiaras old stuff and was unimpressed, but to say calis old stuff isnt great is a lie, she is quite possibly the best lyricist in Hololive RN.

>>6569440
Actual pros would go to their own channels or make their own music instead of becoming a vtuber. Now, what if there's better singers than IRyS? Can they speak Japanese? Are they living in Japan currently? Do they have years of content creation in Music? Do they have experience in being a vtuber/streaming in general? Only Namirin has this properties. There might be others, but they can't trump against two of her covers that had 110M and 19M views.

>>6555737
Dokibird and Ninomae Ayane

I just hope they do not find some former e-sports pro gamer, becuase either they wouldn't have permissions for whatever she's good at or it would be Apex all over again.

>>6554193
>everyone but Namirin got an upgrade
COVER HATE

>>6554193
I would have liked for the blonde on the very right to get into hololive. Her singing is great.

>>6569599
Yeah. The list is short if you really want to look for one. I think another reason why Irys was chosen because she was willing to stream regularly. I mean Azki is always busy. I'm almost certain they are requiring her to stream on top of the music projects much like Suisei. Professional singers won't be lending just their voice. They will have to become streamers. A really awesome singer won't need Cover anymore. They will just start their own channel and start a gofundme like Hachi for their concerts

>>6569599
I'm not disputing that "secondary qualities" are probably what gave Nami the edge over others who have a similar or even better pure singing talent, because for Cover especially living in Japan and being able to speak japanese is a valuable bonus because it makes so many things much easier.

That some of her covers have millions of views shouldn't have that much weight in the selection process because things like these don't necessarily always mean outstanding ability but just that you got lucky a few times in getting picked up by the algo lottery. Also, with the nature of Cover's "clean slate policy" of not acknowledging previous identities, numbers like these have less bearing because it's not really about "taking your old fans with you".

>>6530375
speaking japanese is actually a debuff, not a buff, because people expect you to be "the translator" for other members and will criticize you if you get anything wrong. And there are plenty of generic drawing/singing/gamer girls who no one watches. People watch Gura and Ame because of their personality.

>>6569908
Namirin is a self made professional that has been grinding. She has produced 2 EPs, sang an anime OP, featured in 10 albums and did 100+ covers. If you can't already tell how much efficient she has been and consistent then I don't know what. Her viral vids is just the cherry on top. Not to mention that she can speak jap and English, streams games and lives in JP.

>>6569964
For Irys this is a buff because the moment the nips understood that she understood kanji, they all showed up. She also doesn't translate on her stream. When she is asked something in jap she responds in jap and moves on. I rarely saw her do any self translation.

>>6569908
NTA, but he is right. A company is more likely to take a mediocre talent that's marketable if they show they have good work ethic over an absolute diamond in the rough prodigy that they can't manage or sell.

>>6569964
>speaking japanese is actually a debuff, not a buff, because people expect you to be "the translator" for other members and will criticize you if you get anything wrong.
No one expects this from anyone unless they themselves pigeonhole their persona into that spot. Both Kiara and Iofi did this, with the former being successful and the latter crashing and burning. Then we have the rest of the Holos that speak Japanese and English to varying degrees that DIDN'T pigeonhole themselves into translating and have no problems with it whatsoever.

>>6570131
Iofi would have been in the same position as Kiara had she had the EN buff. But you can see Kiara massively underperforming compared to her genmates.

>>6570104
Irys is a special case for now because she's brand new, not part of a generation, and there's no one else to look at. So sure, it's nice for her that they can send her superchats and she can understand them. Let's see if that continues after a few months of "oh, she's really at collabs, just like iofi".

>>6570131
>Then we have the rest of the Holos that speak Japanese and English to varying degrees
Basically none of them are bilingual though. Calli can say "naruhodou" and I guess that's cute to the Japanese fans just like it's cute to us when Miko says "FAQ" or whatever. There's no serious attempt at communication there.

>>6570291
I don't know what you mean by comparing her to Iofi. She's quite talkative on her own. She barely stutters a nd does express her thoughts farely well. No stupid guhs in between. If she does stutter and get awkward with her first collab that will be understandable since she's new. No way she's worse than MorixCoco.

>>6548410
How does Gura not have sticking power? Her average video views shit on everyone else in hololive including pekora and korone

>>6570879
I'm not speaking about Gura specifically, more generally. (hence the last line)
High subs are literally meaningless unless you have that sticking power, which she does.
Then you look over at the likes of Kizuna who lost that hardcore because she never adapted to the streaming era of vtubing and people got bored of silly videos.

>>6570131
True. Inclining mid agency like cover aint going to bet on rough diamonds anymore. Only small startup and big corpo can afford it. Ado's case was a good example. She started her utaite around 3years ago. She is a pure rough daia but an amateur non less. Despite going a lil bit viral after that and people shilling her no agency pick her up untill the big guy sonny itself step up. They grind her for a year by attending vocatraining and spamming covers. They win their bet with ussewa and now she is the biggest newcomer in jp.

>>6527565
Will they allow Kyoresu? Didn't she said funny n word in one of her cover? I know what HoloEN1 also did that but its not as easy to find as hers.

>>6570217
I mean she just litearlly doesnt have the same talents that Kiara has, we saw that when it was literally the same thing where Gura got pissed off when Iofi was doing the translating and when it was Kiara everything went smoothly. Its not an easy task and you need to take a backseat when you are translator which Iofi didnt seem to get.

>>6566975
She is cute and her voice would be perfect for a chubba

>>6567188
hes said so himself on reddit

It's literally going to be obscure non-vtubers just like always. Cover doesn't give a shit about experience, they want a set of talents. Look at how the NijiENs are fucking blank slates talentless hacks.
inb4 >but Ame
She literally did professional voice acting.

>>6575833
sauce on the va stuff?

>>6575833
There are plenty of ASMR and VR roleplay channels been wanting to make the switch to vtuber. I could see someone like Honeyaudio or bethyva getting in

>>6563429
She also might have been.

>>6527565
If we're assuming a similar turnover time, EN GEN 2 is about 6 weeks away.
Has anyone's indie oshi vanished recently?

>>6577366
Fallout mods. But we're getting dangerously close to doxing her because she's credited by her real name.

I'm sure you could find it yourself.

>>6578325
how the fuck do people even find this ...

>>6579298
voice

>>6575627
Dakooters could just be saying that to have an extra allure to them. So far there's no indication that they're trans besides them saying it.

TikTok girls often say they're trans as well to feel special and cash in on the trans-obsessed western culture.

>>6527782
roru

>>6582227
what ever makes you sleep easy at night dude