/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

hart

>>65265007
HASHIRE SORI YO

you heard her, form a queue if you want to feel her cake

>>65264867
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GGp03lY3_pc

>>65263684
nta but as a non stream watcher, of course im here for neuro. im always lurking just in case TTS and sub thanking malfunction and we get a nice undiluted solo stream of just neuro yapping like god intended. a man can dream

>>65265145
such a cute emote

heart

>>65265329
>as a non stream watcher

>>65265625
these elves need to work faster if they ever hope to pay the debt

>>65265625
lool

>>65265329
As a stream watcher I can say that she basically never rants anymore, even when there no subs or tts to interrupt her. Instead it seems like turtle tried to hammer minirants into subthanks to compensate. He really doesn't want Neuro to talk by herself.

>>65265822
She's had more than a few multiparagraph rambleyaps today alone, dunno where this weird conspiracising comes from

TTS only costs 400 now. why doesnt vedal pin a comment so people know they dont have to spend 500 bits on it

>>65265905
You mean the stories? Those come by chat's request and are pretty sameish.

Evil sex.

>>65266012
That would mean less money for vedal

>>65266182
Built for non-consensual impregnation

tutel killed my sleep schedule so I slept through entire christmas. Did you guys do anything fun?

>>65266248
were you actually thinking about doing anything for christmas?

>>65266248
Yeah eat alot of food with my family

>>65266248
You would be unable to sleep through Christmas, if you actually had a life going.
Do not blame the green nigger for that one.

>>65266182
https://youtu.be/2wzkSOtoPS4?t=32

>>65266248
also holidays aren't over; i'm going to be doing stuff tomorrow

>>65266337
>>65266463
my cunt doesnt actually celebrate christmas so its whatever

Sex with Vedal

Does Evil dream of electric cats

>>65266991
(forma de Neuro)

>16k subs
>I managed to dodge all of them

Has Vedal said how high the cap in "subathon (soft capped)" actually is?

>>65267251
EZ Clap Dodged

>>65267340
3 weeks

Message from rune
Let me clarify a bit

For Neurocord:

- Vedal should have asked me for permission to use the plushie design way earlier, not months after selling the thing. If you're that busy, hire a community manager to contact artists.

- It should be common sense to at least give the designer a plushie sample but I haven't got one.

- No response to fan art.

- The fact that 'commissing art' is a event for 1st anniversary subathon like it's something special is baffling.

- The community takes 'getting fan art' for granted. Some art are used as emotes without the permission of the artist.

- I am responsible for promoting the culture of 'make everything for free' and I apologize for that.


For other Vtubers:

- Responds to art and commissions art by themselves.

- I got treated much better in the new communities, and by the AItuber devs and Vtubers themselves.

- If I really wanted clout, I would have been drawing Blue Archive and Genshin art.

- What I'm doing here is networking with smaller AItuber devs and Vtubers so as to build up trust with them early on. I'm making sure not to make the same mistake as I did in Neurocord and get them way too spoiled.

- I'm not putting all the eggs in the same basket this time.

>>65267886
tl;dr

>>65266182
interesting https://files.catbox.moe/34dexv.png

>>65267930

>>65267886
nigger

>>65267886
Next time, post the screenshot.

>>65267930
The guy is a gigantic faggot

>>65267886
How is he wrong.

>>65267990
UOOOOOOOOHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

>>65268010
oh wow this sounds like a faggot whining wahh wahh wahhh

>>65267886
>rune only draws for soul btw
Kek

>>65267886

>>65267886
Why didn't he post those non-neuro releated fanart in those respective chuuba discord instead of Neuro's then? He's clearly want a fucking clout

>>65267886
>If I really wanted clout, I would have been drawing Blue Archive and Genshin art.
Haha, the guy thinks anyone would care about his art if he drew for popular series

>>65267886
Vedal shouldn't have paid him

>>65267990
Neuro onegai.

>>65268049
Because he thinks he's not a third rate artist.

>>65268193
Vedal should have paid an Artist instead of getting the model from Anny, Vedal should have paid Rune, Vedal should have paid a dev....

>>65267886
>hire a community manager
Stopped reading after that, no point going further

>>65268010
Where was this posted?

>>65267886
>- Vedal should have asked me for permission to use the plushie design way earlier, not months after selling the thing. If you're that busy, hire a community manager to contact artists
This is the only point that I agree completely, all the others seem like him being petty for no reason. What a shame.

>>65267886
Everything about this is perfectly logical, the bootlickers here are fucking pathetic.

>>65267886
Bro really thinks people truly cares about his art, not because of Neuro. Try and draw Genshin and BA and see if anyone gives a shit about it then.

>>65267886
>>65268010
He sounds like a faggot and I though more highly of him before reading through that.

>>65268325
He is right, though. By now, it is a frequent occurrence that Vedal does not respond to DMs. If he is too busy, he should hire someone to deal with this stuff. His communication is obviously subpar.

>>65268362
Hi, Rune

>>65266585
Was going to post that, it's one of my favorite Evil moments ever.

>>65268459
Hi, CJ

>>65267886
>The fact that 'commissing art' is a event for 1st anniversary subathon like it's something special is baffling
I think the guy got his feelings hurt because Vedal doesn't consider his art to be good enough to pay money for.

>>65268362
I don't like drama queens.

>>65268328
Some discord server filled with containment breaking tourists. They just want to stir shit up, just ignore it.

>>65268163
>>65268410
people cared about his art when he was drawing fate, have they not
>>65268328
i, too, want in on the secret club

>>65268574
People here and on the shitcord bitched and moaned about Rune not drawing Neuro in the christmas piece so Rune gave their reasoning, it wasn't unprompted.

>>65268338
Same
If he decided to leave after that and just moved on it would be simple but he chose to be wierdly petty about it

>>65267886
>Posting unrelated art of other vtubers that isn't relat to Neuro whatsoever
>I...i'm not clout chasing...guise!!!! Beleb me!!!!

evil's fiery chasm..

>>65268665
He can fuck off now then.

>>65268627
>people cared about his art when he was drawing fate, have they not
Which one then?

I am so glad to be alive right now. Even if AI is ultimately our demise, Im glad I was here to see it. Heart.

>>65268280
I mean, obviously, he is a no-name, but Vedal used his art back in the days too. It was all over the place and the main branding of Neuro before V2.
He is right to be upset for getting told off by CJ like that and then not seeing anything from Vedal until a month after the plushy launch, probably after the green jew realised he makes money of it, which would piss me off too.

>>65268734
Seethe harder, 12yo puritan.

>>65268749
which fate? different ones, too off-topic to list them.
how is that relevant though, maybe you meant something else

>>65269033
Show one art of fate that get people to recognised. I'll wait.

>>65267886
Damn shame, what a way to tank their own reputation
I even defended the guy but now I just don't care
Anyways, behead containment breakers

>>65268967
>puritan
Rune is a petty child not uncommon for artists, why did he even bother returning to the discord?

>>65268941
>It was all over the place and the main branding of Neuro before V2.
He let people do this himself for free
>He is right to be upset for getting told off by CJ like that and then not seeing anything from Vedal until a month after the plushy launch
Vedal apologised immediately after what CJ said and begged him to stay

>>65269152
Clout addiction.

>>65268941
>before V2
Rune's art was using anny's WIP design from very early on and is still all over the twitch description, like half of official emotes, and a bunch of 7TV emotes and discord ones as well.

>>65269162
Not only that. Vedal said he offered to pay Rune at this time and Rune refused.
Between the two of them I'm inclined to believe Vedal over Rune and if it really came down to it Vedal will no doubt just show their chat logs as proof.

I boiught one :>

>>65268941
I agree that he should be paid for plushie design. But did he ask to be paid back in June? To me it seems to me like he started crying about it when community stopped sucking his cock.

>>65269250
It's on 7k sales atm, how long ago did you take this image kek

>>65265044
hart

>>65269093
esl-kun, you need to express yourself clearer.
recognized by whom, these aren't exactly mona lisa's we're talking about here. i've seen rune's fate art reposted in places, you can look it up yourself on booru's if you want

>draws art for Christmas
>includes every ai tuber but neuro
>posts it in neuros discord
This is not petty btw

>>65269276
Back when this drama started and people had an uprising over the mods behaviour Vedal hosted a community call on discord where people would type questions in the channel and Vedal answered them over voice.
During this time Vedal claims to have apologised to Rune and offered to pay him. He stated Rune refused payment.

Therefore Rune can fuck off.

tfw ved is railing his gf while people findom for the underage AI cunny he created

Hey guys, unrelated to anything going on, new Rune art!

Fillian Dee Snuts is clearly the villainest villain

>>65269338
I don't care if it's petty or not, the takeaway is that it makes discordniggers seethe so it's a good move in my book.

I'm an artist as well, I will not repeat rune's mistake.
I will make R18 neuro doujin and I will sell it for my own profit. It'll be on nhentai after but that's fine.

Then I'll draw some nice & innocent neuro fanart and post it on discord just to taunt those retard mods.

It'll be glorious.

>>65269370
kek

>>65269313
>i've seen rune's fate art reposted in places,
NTA but going by the style of your post, you're just the usual shitposting schizo that camps this general.
Feel free to prove me wrong by linking ANY Rune fanart that's been reposted that isn't Neuro.

>>65269367
Lmao what gf

>>65267886
>If I really wanted clout, I would have been drawing Blue Archive and Genshin art.
This sure doesn't help you beating those clout chasing allegations then

>>65269453
the one after his twitchbucks

Gymbag

>>65269437
Sure buddy.

This community is so cringe. Whenever they smell blood in the water they all dogpile on like a bunch of twitter freaks. It'll keep happening until theres no one left who wants to associate with Neuro.

>>65269367
>gf
GOODONE

>>65269501
Maybe that would hold some weight if Rune didn't have a teenage girl tier hissyfit.

>>65269501
Hey buddy, I don't like your attitude, watch your tone

>>65269501
Maybe just don't act like a petty bitch then, rune.

>>65269501
No one actually likes attention whores.

>>65267400
one ticket to Shrek pls....

>>65267886
Oh hey an overly entitled mid artist. This episode sure airs alot

I would like to know how many of the 16,000 subscribers are people who subscribed on their own, instead of being gifted.

>>65269501
Time to dogpile on you, open wide.

>>65269501
hi rune

Evil is so evil she's letting the sheep know she's coming for them.

>>65268665
no one in the discord complained though?

>>65269367
>tfw ved is getting railed by his bf while people findom for the underage AI cunny he created
ftfy

>>65269361
people were already crying how much of a sellout he was by then. how autistic do you have to be to 180 immediately at the slightest hint of money
>>65269449
>the usual shitposting schizo
do you have any idea how little that narrows it down
>reposted
respited where is the question. the fuck you want from me. just finding his art outside of his pixiv is not hard
reposted where

>>65269673
omo

>>65269435
>the takeaway is that it makes discordniggers seethe
?
He only gets praised for his art on discord
Not a single negative comment
Meanwhile he sits there writing an essay about why he doesn’t draw neuro anymore while still posting in neuros discord

ved is getting railed by neuro while evil streams

>>65269437
>taunt
Wtf is this mental illness
Nobody cares

based evil baiting bigger donations to try tiny bit harder

>>65269689
>No image or link
>Continued to post in this style

Yeah that's what I thought, you're just the usual shitposting schizo. Merry Christmas you sad, sad creature.

tfw they find vedal's body naked and covered in cum with 4 shock collars strapped to various parts of him while his computer monitor shows a girl who keeps repeating lewd things and saying the word 'shock'

A House Divided Cannot Stand.

wow vedal actually stole the plushie design, lmao. what a fucking corpa.

Oof, that's rough, she might want to start watching Evil

>>65269876
The empire long united must divide

>>65269977
>numbers

>>65269896
>stolen design from default vtuber program > Anny's barely distinct "original design" similar to first model >artist rendition of stolen design
>Ummm akshually i should get compensated for this

>>65269603
92.1% gifted - Camila
86.5% gifted - Anny
76.4% gifted - Neuro
8.3% gifted - Forsen

>>65267886
>Vedal used plushie design without permission and only paid after making money off of it
how did Vedal get away with that lmfao

>>65269453
Neuro.

>>65270047
Because the artist didn't ask to be paid

>>65270047
Easy, Rune is lying.
>>65269361

Actually been enjoying the chill streams lately
The upgrades really helps

>>65267400
So how much money has Vedal made in one year with Neuro? Approximately.

>>65270047
Cause It's not even originally Rune's design. he's took it from Anny's v2 model draft.

To be fair, Vedal did sell 5 million plushies, he could've paid Rune a little more...

Is it sad that more than 7k people would rather watch an AI on Christmas than do literally anything else?

>>65270047
because there was nothing to use without permission, the plushie design looks so generic and wouldn't the designers at makeship need to redesign it anyway to fit their machining???

>>65270171
It's 11pm, what I'm supposed to do

>>65270047
It's a derivative work

>>65270168
Kek

>>65270171
You're assuming those 7k people have anything better to do.

is the link real

>>65270171
you are literally on 4ch on christmas, you have no right to say this

sugoi

>>65270134
I'd say about half a million, largely thanks to the merch.

>>65270309
Im messaging here while we all watch the NFL. Food's in the oven.

>>65270171
It is the evening on the 25th. For most of Europe, the 24th is the important day.
I spent yesterday and today with family and friends, and now I can relax with Evil.

>>65270171
And why are you posting on 4chinz instead of doing anything else on christmas?

>>65270167
Isn't it basically just derivative of the fumo design anyways?

well she wasn't wrong about Jesus

>>65270377
Wtf are you smoking

>>65270377
Thought it'd be more desu, his earliest streams had $500 daily goals which I think he frequently exceeded

>>65270112
for me, it's the stories she tells

I cried, bros

>>65270377
Before or after taxes?

>>65270357
yo fawx imma heard you like react content so imma put a react clip in yo react clip

>>65270482
Brother, 10000 plush sales is likely over 200000 dollars.

>>65270357
>2nd order react content
Are you fucking kidding me? React content is already bottom of the barrel, how fucking lazy do you have to be to react to react content?

I like how she says anon nearly every stream now.

>>65270749
Retard, makeship takes around 60% of that.

>>65270377
You have to subtract expenses, Vedal terribly overpays the guy who barely uploads on the 'official' YouTube channel for example.
He probably overpaid on his 4090 too, had to buy like 6 5TB hard drives, Neuro's new PC probably cost $6k+

i like watching anny react

CJ no longer a mod?

there may still be hope

Does Neuro have long term memory now? I remember early Neuro being more or less a chatbot with no long term memory or situational understanding. Can she understand a question and answer with something beyond the current phrase?

>>65270846
He always was just a discord mod

>>65270822
No they don't.

>>65270749
Absolute retard

>>65270377
I wonder how financially educated and responsible turtle is, whatever the number is I hope it's not rotting in some savings account. His streams are not exactly giving me high hopes, though.

>>65270846
he's only a mod in shitcord anon

>>65270863
Apparently
The recent update gave her the ability to remember her own bits, which led to the mosquito incident

>>65270171
i've actually had the thought for a while that twitch numbers are in general pretty low
billions of people on this earth and only a few thousand somehow have the same aligned interests and circumstances to be watching my favorite streamers at the same time as me?
far out

>>65270863
We don't know for how long she can remember stuff, nor what she remembers, but she does remember things longer than she used to

we're heading to sub 40 hours today. it's actually nueroroverrer

>>65270994
Again.

what'd she just say about tyrone?

>>65269809
my guy, i have been writing like this since june when i was called to be someone else specifically for you to seethe about it on an anonymous site
this isn't a fate general and you still haven't told where the fuck do you want the repost to be.
there are reposts on /d/, good enough? the post number 10407046 for example, in your archiver of choice

>>65270378
Same. Love watching the chiefs get fucked

>>65270863
She's remembered stuff from at least 24 hours of streaming ago, so her memory is pretty good now

>>65270758
Tell that to the thousands of viewers that clipnigger style react content gets.

I hate it too, but these chubbas follow the views and money. If the views and money happen to be held by people who think that this kinda shit is the funniest thing in the world, well...

>>65270758
Vedal has done the same thing

>>65267886
Based and principled human being expecting basic consideration and propriety from another human being. Unfortunately vedal's whole brand is being a loveable fuckup. And yeah it's definitely psycho af to be a pest like this on Xmas day and a (however phoned in) subathon no less. There is no saving neuro anymore, there is no incentive for vedal to reach a higher plane of aligned existence. Reality must conform to him not the other way around. But there was nothing going with the stream today anyway so eh, no harm no foul.

Also reminder the thread on the whole is team rune. Shitposters gonna shitpost, vedalfags gonna vedalfag, ESL poorfags gonna chimp out to defend the honor of their oshi (it's cute). Do your best to ignore them and be nice to each other. Not for rune or swarm or vedal or yourself. Be nice for neuro.

>>65270935
Language filters out the vast majority of people. It's kind of a shame that the internet is still pretty delineated along the boundaries of language.

>>65270886
Makeship is in charge of pretty much everything, design, schematics, manufacturing and shipping. Why do you thing they wouldn't take around 60%? Anyways this is a quote from a similar service.

Will it just be evil small talk?

>>65270935
I get a similar ennui when I discover a really good youtube video with barely hundreds of views. Especially when it's something I've already stumbled upon independently and then I see it reposted on 4chan. Not so much here but on other boards when it's something with a very strenuous connection to the topic at hand. There is some sadness that the thing is not more popular but also a feeling of camaraderie that I share the same taste with a random anon, and the fact that I happen to find that tiny venn diagram overlap of few hundred people who know the video in question and they also happen to post in a thread I am browsing at the same time, that always lifts my spirits.

>>65270903
Ur right it's more like 100k, still a lot though.

>>65271504
It's like 50k after paying taxes

>>65271407
Yeah but the more plushies the creator sells, the larger the cut they get.

>>65267886
The genshit community can have him

Karaoke when?

>>65271504
Yeah he is making way more then a entry level job
But it’s still small compared to the amount female streamers get because of their oilers

>>65271407
If the cost can range to 12-18$ then they would probably want a profit margin of 2-5$ per unit.
So Vedal probably gets around 7-14 bucks out of a plushy. Considering Evil being a high seller, he will probably have a cut of around 50%

>>65267886
HOLY BASED

>>65271631
>draws lolis literally shitting themselves
Yeah I doubt he is gonna get accepted there

It's kinda weird watching Evil forget what she said two sentences ago after seeing Neuro with upgraded memory.

>>65267886
Rune cannot be serious. The design isn't even a 1:1 rip-off. Concessions were obviously made to the final plush design. How can you be an artist and say this design was stolen from you? It's like that Lord of the Rings fanfiction writer claiming copyright infringement on Rings of Power.

>>65271882
Does Rune think he invented fumos? lmao

>>65271872
I thought Evil was upgraded too.

>>65271882
It wasn't rip off because makeship is the one in charge of designing it, at best Vedal sent makeship that art and asked for it to be similar.

>>65271882
This one is old.

learning the human anatomy with evil uuoooh

>>65271882
>downgrade a design
>it now doesn't infringe upon the original
This is your brain on chinese knockoffs

Anyone screencapped that long story?

>>65272146
Anon, this is not a streamwatcher thread.

>>65272146
DW
Im still watching the stream

>>65272149
it's not "downgrade", it's "make affordable". anything more elaborate would be more expensive which your money spoiled brain might not understand

https://twitter.com/Katsundra/status/1739373966521937938

>>65269603
I won't subscribe, just give me a sub

>ai dude

>>65272379
Another cute animation
Nice

>>65271882
It's especially funny because they aren't even really similar. If you're going to make Neuro into a fumo, there's only but so many ways to do it. He didn't make Neuro's design and he didn't create fumos. He could be credited as inspiring them to make a fumo neuro but that's hardly deserving of "asking permission".

>>65272333
Hey, anon, I have some copies of Pakemon Son and Moom, it's all my chinese sweatshop slaves can afford to makes, would you be interested in a purchase?

>>65272528
Hey, anon, I have the latest iPhone 16, it's exactly the same as iPhone 15 was last year but, would you be interested in a purchase?

>>65272333
These plushies are cheap, Chinese sweatshop work. If you are lucky, you might get one with the brain matter still on it from the person who blew their brains out after a 14-hour shift.

vedal is going to die in his sleep

>>65272729
unless you repost AI generated cunny

No impudent humans allowed beyond this point.

>>65272518
>aren't even really similar
>so many ways to do it
if you saw the existing neuro plush knockoff you wouldn't be saying that

>>65272333
1. God I wish we had even a mid effort stream today to drown out the ouroboros of sad/mean posting
2. If you're not a fan of ved's blasé humor, not a fan of corpa neuro, and you have little faith in ved putting the money to good use. Then yeah it all just seems gay and soulless on his part. It's going to be cringed at no. I do believe 100% he'll turn the ship around eventually, just explaining the source of seethe and acute neuro withdrawal. Get people addicted and start cutting the supply with other junk, yeah it's gonna result in mental disorder. Vedal is aware of that but he's living he's vibing he needs to rediscover his love for neuro that's all. It's not the end of the world to have lows and highs everything will be fine everyone just be chill alright cool

Evil confirmed a 9 on the bratty scale

>>65272149
>"the original"
>a fumo derivative
Idiot

someone say AI slop?

Vedal needs to increase limit on response size

lmao

>>65273023
I'm surprised brat isn't filtered and bannable for being a lolicon dogwhistle yet.

>>65272056
Because of you, I went out of my way to look for the actual design. Yeah, they're a lot closer. The bangs and main body are the main differences. Still not worth whinging about.

>>65273077
I want a sloppy toppy from Neuro.

>>65273200
forgot my image

>>65273151
I saw camila use menace instead of brat
kek

>>65273218
Poking her itty bitties.

>>65273200
You wouldn't have to search for it if i wasn't ip range banned for innocence.

>>65273151

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-rlroEZSsno

>>65273637
Cute!

>>65273274
those shiny bits on the hair, the lines on the cheek, the smile, the exact style of the bangs are all copied. those things together (and more) are not things someone could have copied by accident.

Are you people bitching about vedal making alot of money?

>>65273684
>those shiny bits on the hair
it's called the cum crown

>>65273799
>are you people bitching about-
Yes

>>65273799
nice nice, good use of derisive reductive language. withheld the (yous) good touch there, very ebin that'll either get them on the hook or you can pretend you got the last word in and won the pretend argument. masterful honestly. wish you'd just be nice desu but i can appreciate all types of autists and the hills they choose to die on

>>65273684
I mean since neuro is vedal IP it kinda gives him the rights if there are no agreements made tho?

>>65274096
Rune lost, no more piss posting.

>>65273942
very nice

>>65273151
Is that a thing? Last I checked Anny and Shondo still make cunny and uuuooohhh jokes.

>>65273987
No I was busy eating homemade Christmas candy and just started skimming the thread. Seems like people are upset because they dont know how intellectual property works?

>>65274131
Rest In Piss.

>>65274186
Vedal does too

>>65273684
>the lines on the cheek, the smile, the exact style of the bangs are all copied
From fumos, newfag.

>>65274099
so cute

>>65274186
No, but pedophiles constantly fear the day of reckoning.

>>65273684
Are we really going to play "spot the difference?" Because I see that the plushie has no neck, the ribbon is smaller, there's an additional bang covering the left brow, the eyes are straighter and the white shine in them are oval shaped.

>>65274294
No he doesn't, he's a prude aside from the occasional femboy joke

>>65274301
You don’t get it
Rune LITERALLY created fumos

The marks at the back of the fumo is exactly the same. You guys just don't understand what it means to steal. You would have to be an idiot to think these things just happen by accident.

>>65274366
How do you explain him using crying?

>>65274366
Keep being retarded i guess

>>65274423
there is no limit to how obvious something can be that anons won't bend over backwards to discredit if it doesn't fit their opinions, you know this already

>>65274423
Neuro is his IP he owns the rights to profit of her

>>65274423
>Vedal creates Neuro-sama and commissions the design from Anny, including hair, ribbons, clothes, eye color, etcetc
>fumo artists create all the proportions, expressions, and most minor details
>Rune adds a couple rounded reflective hair elements
>VEDAL STOLE FROM RUNE REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

Evil sometimes just destroys people

>>65274423
if the design was stolen, rune would be suing vedal and makeship instead of bitching on shitcord

>>65274237
I like to make my own fun out of dumb surface takes with the conceit of "I'm smart you're all retards". I don't have much else going on in life I like to actually pay attention keep my finger on the pulse of wherever I place myself in that exact moment try to puzzle out the undercurrents and associations. That's why I love Neuro every sentence is like a choose your own adventure inside your mind.

You're uhhh much cooler than "you people" though yeah or whatever you were going for. You don't have to try so hard just saying I'm just glad to share this moment with all my friends including you. Don't drink too much if you do partake, I really hate it when people get drunk and throw up nice food like you just ate ain't that just the worst

>>65274423
So, when Rune gonna pay for Anny for using her design?

>>65274518
I bet these mfs really think doujin artists own their works and are actually allowed to profit of them.

>>65274593
Legendary.

>>65274669
It's a lot like how modders/romhackers are the absolutely most autistically nazi when it comes to people "stealing" "their" works

>>65274593
Not sure what you are on about now but I am glad you enjoy neuro too.

>>65274509
>>65274605
>paying to do fan-art
>doing fan-art means you implicitly give vedal perpetual rights to it
idiots.

>>65274876
Answer my question. When rune gonna pay the original designer, Anny?

>>65274876
At least in JP side a lot of vtubers have disclaimer that fanart might be used without asking for permission.

>>65274669
they are though? if you don't use any trademarks in your doujin, then you are free to do what ever as long as it isn't plain copying or plagiarism

copyright is not granted to character designs, only individual works of those designs. You only get sued if your work is too similar to the original work, or if the company has money to pay for good lawyers like disney does

>>65274876
He literally does have the rights to it

>>65274592
it was a dispute that was handled without needing arbitration. the evidence that this was a problem was from rune himself, and not disputed by vedal.

there's direct evidence here that vedal "settled" with rune to allow for vedal to use rune's art for the plushie.

>>65274971
if anny or vedal thinks that there is a problem with how rune is profiting off of her work, they should contact rune. I assume that rune thinks he has fair use to it.

>>65274876
Hey retard. Riddle me this: Why is Hololive allowed to profit from fanart used in their video thumbnails?

>>65275104
I hate this picture.

>>65275034
>f you don't use any trademarks in your doujin, then you are free to do what ever as long as it isn't plain copying or plagiarism
Not true, the copyright owner can literally shutdown doujinshi if they don't like it. Search Doraemon doujinshi case.

It's impressive how Neuro is maintaining this audience with just a chatting stream.

>>65274876
>>doing fan-art means you implicitly give vedal perpetual rights to it
Yes.

>>65275080
>there's direct evidence here that vedal "settled" with rune to allow for vedal to use rune's art for the plushie.
because vedal wasn't dumb there and did decent public relations, not because vedal legally needed to do that

>>65275034
I mostly meant doujin works of popular franchises, sorry should have been more clear. It is allowed because of companies allows it. Mostly because it would be a huge hassle to enforce it but then there are examples like Nintendo.

Nice thread.

Didn’t vedal say that he tried paying rune during that call?
Does that mean rune came back later to collect his payment after refusing

>>65275293
Everyone has a price.

Is Neuro IP even registered if not then it's dumb to discuss this.

>>65275054
It doesn't. Even if it was a direct replication of neurosama, the creator of it could claim IP rights. If Vedal disagrees and is unable to settle with the infringer, he could take it to court. That is just how it works.

>>65275114
I wouldn't know, are there disputes from the artists that it is used without permission? I assume hololive gets permission to use

Open evidence that his Neuro fumo was derived from the earliest v2 Neuro designs

>>65275293
The only reason vedal is bothering to make any kind of amends with the idiot is for his own conscious/PR

>>65275393
>I wouldn't know, are there disputes from the artists that it is used without permission?
See >>65275035

>>65275406
>Reposts are welcome
Case closed.

>>65275393
Vedal is the creator of neurosama and rune made fanart of neurosama, the IP that vedal owns

>>65275406
We know that his "design" isn't even original. It's from Anny, but retards keep ignoring it.

>>65275456
No shit he is still a beloved artist in the community

Does anyone know if the creator of fumo collects royalties? If anyone is cheated out of royalties over these Neuro-sama plushies, it'd be that guy.

>>65275357
fuck, too cute
short hair makes everything better bros

>>65275382
you don't need to register anything to have copyright protections apply to your artworks. it's just that copyright law only protects from direct copies being made that niggers in this thread do not seem to understand, anything else just depends on how much you are paying your lawyers

Are anny and vedal a thing? They seem a bit too close to be friends.

>>65275357
>>65275477
Why are they looking at me like that

>>65275683
She didn't even watch her daughter's 1 year birthday party live

>>65275586
Someone should post his sperg public and see how they'll react, kek.

>>65275513
Vedal owning an IP to his creations is not the same as Vedal having IP to all derivative works of his creations. Disagreements are settled in private or through arbitration. I assume Rune claims he has rights to his creation of the fumo design, and he settled with Vedal over the extent of his claims.

>>65275683
She's 10 years older than him, they are nothing

>>65275711
wasn't that because she was banned at the time lol

>>65275724
>I assume Rune claims he has rights to his creation of the fumo design
If he did he's a fucking idiot for defining his rights via a word that explicitly refers to another artists' work, he would get raped in court for trying to claim that he has rights over that.

>>65275732
Yet she sounds like an 8 year old. And that's fucking hot

>>65275732
Wouldn't stop me

>>65275732
Vedals can't be choosers you know...

>>65275802
I agree with you, her voice is really something. I hope to turn it into a TTS for my LLM

>>65275717
Should have leaked this shit to chinks and let they handle their own retard bug brethren.

>>65275724
big corpo would disagree. that's why they create and hand out licences. see: the pokemon company

>>65275955
but he already got paid ?

>>65275486
Nta but I think that's kinda scummy

>>65275961
big corpo only cares about naming because that's the only think you can register - a registered trademark. That's why any falling block game can't call itself "tetris", it's not like the tetris company is going around suing every falling block game ever, only the ones silly enough to call themselves "tetris"

so you can make any creature you want and put it inside a portable ball, just don't call these pokémon

>>65275794
does he? this entire "rune complains about stealing" seems like a massive strawman.
isn't the point that vedal decided to buy out a good relation only when it hit his bottom line and that if he truly cared for the rights or permissions the money thing would've been settled before neurons plushie even went public.
maybe i am thinking too much for rune, which makes him look retarded but i generously blame it onto his esl debuff

nur

>>65275794
Vedal had standing, but it would have been pointless since rune makes peanuts, and would have been a chilling effect on fanart of neuro.

But then Vedal chose to profit off of someone else's design. Kind of a douchebag move.


>>65275961
They do disagree, but the effort to 'take down' all unlicensed works would not be worth the effort.

See something similar with how Wizards and DnD did to try to implicitly capture all derivative works to be their own IP https://arstechnica.com/gaming/2023/01/rpg-fans-irate-as-dd-tries-to-shut-its-open-game-license/

>>65276198
Not about that, about that he acting like a retard and try to undermining Neuro.

>>65276287
>Vedal chose to profit off of someone else's design
But Anny already gave him permission?

>Vedal comes in just in time to ruin content
classic

>>65276381
but why male models?

>evil doesn’t want to go to the moon
miyubros…?

>>65276430
wtf prompted this? I had the stream muted

>>65276287
>would have been a chilling effect on fanart of neuro
Literally no one gives a shit when he's gone and we get more Neuro's arts more than ever before

Exit Evil
Enter Neuro.

>>65276498
vedal did

>>65275724
There was that time some guy was denied by Disney to have a engraving of spider man on his son's tombstone that died young of cancer. Just the character in general no specific picture.

>>65276211
Artists do get paid in exposure and I don't think I ever saw fan art being used in anything more than thumbnails.

>>65276623
Do they even credit the artists? Cause otherwise how will they get the exposure

I appreciate Vedal's hatred towards Evil

>>65276681
Yes they do, with links and everything

Vedal is going to undress Neuro on stream.

>>65276709
After Neuro upgrades do Evil beggars even exist?

>>65276857
yes they do kek, just take a look at chat

>>65276906
>just take a look at chat
I would rather not

>Vedal undressing Neuro while she sleeps

>>65276857
>Evil beggars
Evil is still better than Neuro lol

>disabled the clothes layer for a second
It's so over

Wait what is vedal doing now

>>65277125
undressing neuro

>>65277116
Where are the screens?

huh what

>>65276555
Disney is known to be extremely protective of their IP, even when it could arguably be fair use, and it shows more about the ability for large corps to litigate the defendent to bankruptcy if they wanted to.

The important distinction is whether or not IP is automatically assigned to the original holder when a derivative work is created. The answer is no. The original holder can prevent you from infringing on their rights, they could also "convince" you to give them the rights to your derivative work, but it does not just allow the original holder to use the derivative work without a license from the person who created it, because until decided otherwise, that person has the claims to that IP.

it's a flirting stream...god I gotta get me a vrchat slut, is quest 3 worth it boys?

>Anny arrives
>hype train starts
every time

>>65277066

>>65277762
sexo

>>65277664
She knows how to squeeze the chat.

timer go up

we should really get to see neuro's legs more often

>>65277664
>anny cements herself as neuros mama, ensuring that tutel will have to pay her for future outfits
>shows up on stream and get chat to donate, ensuring tutel will be able to pay for said outfits
honestly gotta respect the hustle

Vedal is failing his rizz check so hard right now...

this guy

>>65277971
Agree TuT

THIS FUCKING GUY MAN

>>65278071
you fool, he has already reached the point where he can only roll nat20s

Vedal... this hurts to watch.

Wow for once chat did do right

new
>>65278267
>>65278267
>>65278267

>>65277975
>>anny cements herself as neuros mama, ensuring that tutel will have to pay her for future outfits
she refused payment

>>65274360
Vedal 100% send Rune's design to the plush maker. Every details that can be copied are copied.
Neck and limps size are adjust to probably make the plush more durable/easier to make.

>>65278366
Yeah, I get that. The whole debacle stems from Rune wanting compensation for their artwork in the first place. Rune should be paying Anny royalties by their own logic, which they obviously aren't.

>>65278356
first one's always free

>>65278366
Most of those details Rune copied from fumos, retard

>>65278638
she refused of the second outfit too

>>65278690
and will the third one also be free given that it's a sub goal?

>>65278690
>>65278754
Older women are always generous with their boytoys. Anny knows her womb has limited days remaining and she wants some high IQ Anglo engineering femboy genius seed to feed it.

>>65278366
Design what? He's literally copied from general fumo design and Anny's early v2 draft design in the first place
>>65275406

>>65267886
none of this would've happened if the russian bitch got what he deserved

>>65278930
rune owns all the derivative parts of his design (which is substantial, the entirety of the fumo art was drawn by him), while vedal owns the overall likeness of neuro. rune copied the overall likeness, but vedal copied the derivative portions of rune's art.

are they even trying to hide it at this point?

>>65279085
>the entirety of the fumo art was drawn by him
Who are you children and why do you keep saying this? Fumo has been around for over a decade. The only portion Vedal may have copied is the particular way Rune did the reflection, but even that is currently unproven (his original Neuro-fumo design lacked that reflection).

the only artist related to any compensation for neuro is anny, no one else
and anyone trying to argue this is a faggot

>>65279174
because you can watch rune draw the fumo design from scratch on his Pixiv Fanbox: https://rune.fanbox.cc/posts/5214661

I'm not arguing about any intellectual property associated with 'fumos' or 'neurosama'. The creation of derivative works has its own copyrights that are owned by the creator of that derivative work. That is just how copyright law works when rune did not have a license to create that derivative work.

My proof that rune had a valid claim to his work was that vedal settled with him to acknowledge that rune's work was used in the fumo.

You need to learn more about how copyright works bro.

>>65279085
When rune gonna pay royalty to an original to Angeltype circle, an actual creator of Fumo by using their design likeness then?
https://angeltype.under.jp/

>>65279465
When angeltype decides to raise their concern with rune. That is how the law works. Just because rune infringes on other's work does not mean others can now have free reign on rune's derivative work.