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>vtuber who is canonically a counterpart of another vtuber
Is it the first time this happens? Could it work?

>> No.6523444

Could work if they miraculously have a good dynamic together and are actual foils to one another in some way.
It's extremely risky and a lot of people will just think of her as Elira Alter either way so I feel like they did a bad move

>> No.6523448

>>6523345
like kiara and mori?

>> No.6523494

>>6523448
OP probably meant designwise.

>> No.6523495

>>6523448
No.

>> No.6523554 [DELETED] 

>>6523345
>Is it the first time this happens?
It might
Could it work?
I assume you mean they keep up the keyfabe. Nah. As a marketing gimmick it's absolutely fucking hype. The only question is what merch will they be able to make from this?

>> No.6523564

I feel like there were other Niji gens that did this

>> No.6523626

>>6523444
This. It just scream bad move. It'll be a good initial push lore wise but in the long run it'll be hard for them when one grow faster than the other. If the rrats are right and she is a pred rank apexfag, than elira will be in for a trouble.

>> No.6523644

>>6523345
Didn't Kaguya Luna have a sister Pinky or something?

>> No.6523664

>>6523564
>see : JKgumi

>> No.6523667

Could work if they knew each other before or have good chemistry at the start. Could also just be forced like the Takamori thing and it'll only be brought up every once in a while.

>> No.6523674

So are she and Elira sisters or just from the same dragon race? The lore confuses me.

>> No.6523709

>>6523644
No. Pinky was just her kouhai, they didnt have any particular connection lore wise

>> No.6523720

>>6523345 (OP)
>Is it the first time this happens?
It might
>Could it work?
I assume you mean they keep up the keyfabe during livestreams, nope, but it can work for prerecorded skits and Youtube shorts. As a marketing gimmick it's absolutely fucking hype. The only question is what merch will they be able to make from this?

>> No.6523722 [DELETED] 

>>6523345
>If you lower your expectations
Even if it doesn't, the fanbase will say it worked and was a success.

>> No.6523789

>>6523345
Even if it doesn't work nijifags will say it did.
Just lower your expectations and everything works.

>> No.6523796

>>6523667
If they keep it to to animated shorts it could work out very well? That's assuming the girls even get 3D models or animated shorts

>> No.6523799

>>6523444
By Fate standards, Joan alter actually gave a big boost to normal Joan, if played right it could be a blast

>> No.6523817
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6523817

>>6523345
Ruki and Roki

>> No.6523825

>>6523345
it'll work if they like each other if they don't it won't.

>> No.6523867

>>6523825
Wouldn't be hard to fake the chemistry. Plenty of streamers do it to maintain the image of a yuri harem.

>> No.6523871

>>6523664
Also gen 5 all being from the same school

>> No.6523873

>>6523817
They share the same channel and do videos together. It's different.

>> No.6523875
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6523875

>>6523345
For newfags yes it's the 1st time

>> No.6523885
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6523885

>>6523345
>Is it the first time this happens?
Technically yes.

>> No.6523910

>>6523345
>Could it work?
Nijisanji just gave the girl and Elira free content to work with. Whether or not they capitalize on it is on them

>> No.6523919

>>6523664
>>6523871
Rion & Hina too, well at least until the drama between them happened

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6523939

Who cares, I'm still waiting for twin chuubas

>> No.6523968
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6523968

>>6523564
Chitose and Sayo

>> No.6524013

>>6523875
See the post above you

>> No.6524022

>>6523345
She looks retarded (a good thing)

>> No.6524029
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6524029

>>6523345
I really like this concept it can be really fun if they play into it.

Mori has had two times to do this. Kiara actually making an attempt with her, and showing what happens when you got no chemistry. Still makes for good fanart regardless.

>> No.6524061

>>6523345
She seems like the Satania to Elira.

>> No.6524091

>>6523345
Telling you right now, she will be way more popular than Elira.

>> No.6526679
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6526679

>>6523345
its fantastic for baiting fanart

>> No.6526903

>>6526679
Antnon you should be picking sugar of the ground..

>> No.6526981

>>6523968
>chitose
Ema...

>> No.6527067

>>6524029
Rushia and Ollie too but Cover is incompetent, I like that Ichikara know what they're doing

>> No.6527088

>>6526679
>2kb
Wtf is that quality

>> No.6527128

>>6523345
Ripping off other characters or worse yet, vtubers who are in your exact same fucking branch will never work

>> No.6527140

>>6523494
Fubuki and Ollie, search them up.

>> No.6527268

Cover should've done it first with Suisei & Anemachi desu

>> No.6527429

And Cover is still dragging their feet with the gen 6 sister's gen

>> No.6527490

>>6527128
Why not?

>> No.6527540

I'm willing to bet they won't even bother with the kayfabe too much after the first month.

>> No.6527597

>>6527490
Who exactly is the target audience if you are a carbon copy of another character?

>> No.6527746

>>6527597
>carbon copy
Design wise, Selen is clearly much cooler and TOTALLY RAD compared to Elira. Just compare their pets for example.

>> No.6527799

>>6523345
Only if she's the edgy version of Elira

>> No.6527875

>>6527597
It's pretty much what Mio started out as, just black Fubuki. You really just have to see where it goes.

>> No.6528157

>>6523444
They're both Canadian according to their bios so I'm hoping they're actually real life friends and have offcollabs where they prank eachother. Could be very kino.

>> No.6528260

>>6527268
Oh god, if anemachi is announced to be in gen 6, she would probably reaches 500k in like a day.

>> No.6528400

>>6523345
Yes but it needs to be in a way that doesn't split the fandom, if you push too much rivalry since the debut it can become dangerous

>> No.6528578

>>6523885
sonic and shadow

>> No.6528600

>>6527140
Explain further.

>> No.6528679

>>6527875
But Mio has a stand and dragongirls got tiny drogo

>> No.6528690

>>6526981
It's EMA.

>> No.6529077

>>6527746
>kusogaki
This would be the only way I could see her working. I said it in other thread, but when two coworkers have only one thing that separates them (in this case personality) but do and have the same job, then if one is more succesful than the other, it usually only brings confussion and doubts for the one who is lagging behind.
They would not have the excuse of the character debuff or "they work at another company with more expossure", so feelling like your personality is the one thing that is making you less "atractive" can be a real big blow for anyone.

So, having a complete 180 personality and having wild different taste from eachother may soften that blow for them like, "well she is catering to a demographic that I don't so its not like she is stealing my subs".
If they start getting fanbases that are too similars then things like comparissons, calling Elira the "original" dragon, or this girls "Elira 2.0" are bound to happen.

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6529766

>>6523345
I don't know but she's pretty cute regardless

>> No.6529802

rrat is that she's an Apex autist. Doesn't seem to go so well with Elira's personality.

>> No.6529839

>>6523345
So if Elira is an LGBT shill who plugs LGBT novels does that mean that this purple bitch is going to shill conversion therapy?

>> No.6531288

>>6526679
Thanks Pomu

>> No.6531339
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6531339

we had a vtuber that was her own counterpart...

>> No.6531410

>>6523345
Retarded move, now they will be forced to do everything in lore.

>> No.6531437

>>6531410
God forbid vtubers play a character

>> No.6531461

>>6531437
It's a debuff so yeah god forbid

>> No.6531533

>>6531461
You might as well just watch Twitch thots in that case, if you want vtubers to act like real women

>> No.6531556

>>6531533
No, stupid, the new meme is anime avatars are all you need. No one wants a character.

>> No.6531652

>>6531437
playing strict lore will only diminish her creativity in the long run.

>> No.6532058

>>6523345
forced duos are always bad

>> No.6532065

>>6523345
I would say Korone and Okayu are pretty much counterparts, but they don't look as closely related as elira and cool elira

>> No.6532184
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6532184

>>6523825
they were picked from the same auditions
and wave 2 was as ready as the lazulight teaser came out meaning that they planned this shit in advance

>> No.6532653

>>6532065
I would say it has turned into a subversion of the initial idea. The cool tomboy cat is actually the submissive girly one in the relationship and the girly sweet dog is actually the dominant force here and scares other people with her pressure.

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>>6532184

>> No.6533097

>3 new english vtubers
Can't wait for them all to play Apex and Minecraft!

>> No.6533258

>>6523885
don't forget Haato/Haachama and now Gura / Red Gura

>> No.6533748

>>6533097
puts niji and holo EN at 6 each. I wouldn't be surprised if Yagoo and Tazumi are planning something just like with Holo/NijiJP

>> No.6533769

>>6533748
6 vs 6 amogus

>> No.6533808

>>6533769
was gonna say get their penguin and IRyS to do a song collab, both come from a very rich music background

>> No.6533870

>>6533808
was referencing that the last big holoniji collab was 5 v 5 among us

>> No.6533899

>>6533870
true true, but Holo's resident shark loathes that game now because they bulli her, so i bet she would opt out

>> No.6533960

>>6533769
Oh no, Goorah's going to have Vietnam flashbacks

>> No.6533968

>>6533748
Cute, but NijiEN makes Enma seethe

>> No.6533981

>>6533748
When will niji/holo EN collab? The two company used to so close to each other like distant cousins... they supposed to rule the chuuba world side by side..
What happened nijibros..holobros..?

>> No.6534013

>>6527140
Source:my ass

>> No.6534060

>>6533968
The age of ENMa/JENMa has come to an end. Last i heard from here, they had to relinquish a lot of power and permission because many of the girls were making a stink over their restrictions. If Tazumi and Yagoo are as good a friends as others believe them to be, Yagoo will loan the girls for a boost to NijiEN

>> No.6534136

Why do people think its forced? they knew eachother pre-niji

>> No.6534186

>>6527067
>Floods the market in hopes of anything succeeding
>I like that Ichikara know what they're doing

>> No.6535466

>>6528690
Wait, EMA used to be a vtuber?
Every day you learn something new I guess

>> No.6535529

>>6534186
each girl probably costs 8k to produce and 100% of them make it back with no real costs after debut aside from ones that just make them more money. If one blows up it's a huge win, but they all turn a profit no matter what.

>> No.6538302

>>6534186
>flooding the market
They aren't creating new vtubers. The old indies they're using are being recalled.

>> No.6544614

>>6523345
Im going to marry her

>> No.6548539

>>6524029
Actually thought the joke was that Ollie's hair sword cut up Mori's Dr.pepper can.

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6548648

>>6523444
say she's her actual IRL sister/cousin and they have history? Could be a good move. Worked well for Calli/Kiara.

dat captcha...

>> No.6548803

>>6523345
It will not work because 95% of chuubas even the JP ones are quick to drop most of their lore and character soon after debut, nijisanji is just cheap and reusing designs.

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6548831

>>6523345
Are you counting duos like Vesperbell, Boogey Voxx, or AyaMina Games? Or just evil clones?

>> No.6548864 [DELETED] 

>>6523674
She and Elira are sisters because they share the same mama. One is a Lunar Sky Dragon while the other is a Solar Sky Dragon. I don't know if they're actually meant to be sisters lore-wise though.

>> No.6548941

>>6548803
>Using lore for livestreams as opposed to merch and word-of-mouth
Why do newfags still think this? Use some basic business sense?

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>>6523674
She and Elira are sisters because their design are drawn by the same mama. One is a Lunar Sky Dragon while the other is a Solar Sky Dragon. I don't know if they're actually meant to be sisters lore-wise though.

>> No.6549070

>>6538302
Flooding the agency market with cheaper product

>> No.6549285

>>6549007
Please be NBR. I wouldn't feel comfortable looking at porn involving both of them otherwise.

>> No.6549355

>>6533981
I would rather see them collab with each other than Vslutjo or Transemis

>> No.6549391

>>6549285
please kill yourself

>> No.6549601

>>6528679
uhh the stand wasn't part of her character design, it's a meme that came from a stream

>> No.6549602

>>6549285
Is that really something you care about when jacking it off to a bunch of drawings?

>> No.6550224

>>6523345
Works fine. Unlike Holoen, Nijisanji EN girls actually have chemistry together that isn't forced. So if these two have the same chemistry it'll be pretty amazing.

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