/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

shion egg status?

Isn't this literally the good ending of Needy Streamer Overload.

Soft graduation?

>>65041349
like nazuna?

Seems what I worried about has come true.
Some of you may or may not have read me posting about this recently.
This is gonna suck...

>>65041300
She barely streamed anyways so will anything change?

>>65041385
vaguepostingchama...

Sounds like she's getting married. I wish her a very romantic Christmas

>>65041300
I actually watched a zatsudan of hers a while ago, she seemed really happy :(

I have the same feelings, personally. We need to delete our accounts and get outside. Meet people. Live the life.

Or trip over in the forest and die. That would be fine too.

>>65041300
I mean she joined when she was underaged and probably missed out on a lot of her early adult life.
Hope she comes back though.

Huh. From what I've seen she's seemed pretty happy lately though. Oh well. She didn't really stream much to begin with so there's no real loss here except for those who are Shiokkos. Hopefully she'll return at some point.

>>65041369
no

>>65041874
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>>65041300
Explain what is wrong with this mindset? It's good she came to this realization now instead of when she was a hag.

>>65041300
grifting whore

>>65041436
That's the issue. Unhappy people usually don't want to reach out IRL. She is taking a break / hiatus because she wants to touch grass as she thought she spent too much of her youth online - that's not what someone truly unhappy with life does.

>>65041415
and a safe pregnancy

>>65041300
How does Hololive allow her to take a break for such a fucking stupid reason? Online interactions ARE her job.

>>65042078
KWAB

>>65041497
My speculations are the same. She couldn't live the life most normal people would have and I imagine this level of change is too much for the inexperienced.
Having to move to the big city and live on her own while being part of this rapidly growing entertainment industry. There are so many things to consider with hurdles that layer every single aspect of it all.
I hope she can come back with newfound enthusiasm and wisdom

>>65042078
atleast she didnt joke about baseball

>>65042158
mybe afte she graduate in collage

>>65042078
Hololive is pretty lenient (and it helps that VTubers cost minimal to keep around - Cover probably makes enough to pay her a full year salary with just one wave of her merch) so... forever?

>>65042078
keeping them in the pasture is more valuable than sacking them and letting a competitor snatch them up

>>65042078
she joined hololive in her teens. I don't think you're going to come around and understand but think about when you had to do everything for the first time

I’m just fucking sad that there will be no yearly ASMR! I know she isn’t good but I always have hope that she will make it better. Well wish her the best and hopefully this doesn’t lead to a graduation and se just needs time to think things through.

>>65042078
First, Her IP is big enough for her to not stream and still earn money for cover
Second, Terminally online Incel like you anon won't understand
Lastly, seethe and cope you ain't as rich as her and don't have bitches.

>>65041300
She doesn't even stream. Suddenly it's her job as a streamer's fault as to why she's deciding to take a break. Jesus Christ

>>65041300
So basically she is in her early 20s and wants to go find herself and get away from the stress of being constantly online whole maybe working on personal projects.

Can't blame her she's been doing this shit for 1/4 of her life at this point. Doubt they'll let her graduate though since all sides only benefit from her being in hololive.

>>65042078
Talent freedom. Yes, I know, it's very weird to see it in reality and not just on ads.

>>65042278
Did this board suddenly become Twitter?

>>65042239
I've also been a fan since her early ASMR but you probably noticed as I have that when she started annual ASMR, it's a farcry from her early ASMR content. Nothing beats that shivering embarrassed Shion who is trying her hardest. And the things she would read by request from the fans! Oh lord!

>>65042356
The Vei thread attracted more retards than usual.

>>65041300
neat, glad shes able to move forward in life

>No Gura, No Shion
Cunny anons we must invest in a new prospect. How the new Phase connect one doing ?

So nasically doing the same thing as gura just with a modicum of respect for her fans

>>65041300
Sad

>>65041300
This is what happens when you hire normies to be streamers. HikkiNEETs are the only true streamers, everyone else will eventually get bored and want to do normie irl shit.

>>65042078
lol a job is not your life underagechama

>>65042400
If you mean the cow, not good since before she even joined. Terrible family and shit country.

>>65042400
>kiwifag going 10 seconds without shilling his whores challenge: IMPOSSIBLE

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>>65042400
Retard

>>65041300
Raito is a lucky guy

>>65041300
>ummm being eternally online is bad...because...it just is OKAY??!!!!!
Why are boomers like this?

>>65042450
Your job lets you take unlimited breaks while still paying you for doing nothing? Hololive is the only company on the planet that works like this.

She is probably a school drop out, she doesn't know how to write kanji that middle schoolers know how to write.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vXSYl_4aVac&t=3137s

Maybe she regrets from dropping out of school.

She should transition into one of the holos that puts in a lot of effort outside of streams. Some of them like Towa talk about dance lessons every other day, Botan and Azki doing some curated, real world streams/videos. I'm sure she could find something she enjoys that'd regularly give her something to do outside of the house while also helping preserve enjoyment of streaming the newest Nintendo releases

>>65042524
you can't compare normal jobs to celebrity-like ones.
Especially if you consider what Shion brings to the company, they would not fire her. I think management is actually understanding how young she is and how long she has been with them

>>65042635
Why would she?

>>65042506
I'm sorry that your oshi is soft graduating anon

>>65042635
If she were any seasoned adult, sure. I think that's why the older ones that have had more turbulence in their working careers can adapt so well

Just fucking kick them out instead of letting them coast for free. I know they will make more money by keeping them, but it has to be so demoralizing for the other holos who put in the effort. Any other job would fire your ass instead of letting you do shit like this

>>65041300
AKA im rich now its time to settle down

>>65042775
t.Child

>>65042524
Not unlimited but my job lets me get away with 1.5 month holidays with pay each year.

>>65042775
You don't understand, you can't say anything negative about Hololive even if it's the only company you care about, or you'll get replies like these:
>>65042278
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>>65042823
And holo lets you get away five or more times that amount

>>65042823
>my job lets me get away with 1.5 month holidays with pay each year
There's nothing strange or bad about that. What Hololive does is on a completely different level.

It is just that maybe she never had to work on those low wage factory jobs.

Sakura Miko just loves the work of being a streamer, because she already worked on a factory before.

>>65042871
She entered Hololive when she was still on HS anonchama

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>>65042869
Well in their case they'd still be generating passive revenue all the time they're away so financially it's sound enough.

>>65042871
She was literally underaged when she entered Hololive and I doubt she had real office or factory work aside from part time jobs on JP and part time jobs are very easy.

Seriously old women like the dogs of EN have already missed the train so they can stream and devote themselves to it like they have been for a decade already. Shion can still have a life, preferably she finds a balance so that she can stay in hololive longer. Retaining the unique personalities is key for Cover. If that means to give the members space to figure their shit out, so be it

>>65042937
I'm surprised other holos don't go on hiatus too since there's no need to work. Would be fun to see if management would change the rules if that happened.

>>65041300
It's a nothingburger. Shion took lots of long break before

>>65041300
Is it really a waste if she's paid to do it? At least do it part-time, 20 hours a week, as a career. That's not a waste!

>>65042937
It's sound for holo and honestly the company earned it but what isn't okay is allowing these girls to be THIS lazy

>>65042775
>but it has to be so demoralizing for the other holos who put in the effort
Why? They have their own things to focus on.

>>65043006
I really don't get why they can't at least stream for like one hour each week. It's pretty much nothing, but it's still better than doing this.

>>65042987
Yeah, Cover is all about that family image. They won't let anyone graduate if they can help it, they'll let them take break for as long as the talent want.

She just needed to stream like a few hours and few days out of the week. Some of you faggots make it seem like this bitch was overwhelmed or some shit. She has a lot of free time to do what she wants. You guys know where she spends most of her time? Streaming along side her BF's channel.

>>65043091
>Cover is all about that family image
Nijisanji treats their talents so badly that Cover is farming money by acting like this.

> this is a job where you earn a lucrative amount of money while getting the adoration and attention from of thousands of fans
> can barely keep up after 3 years
Now imagine some normal woman working a normal job earning pennies while getting almost 0 attention. How do they maintain their sanity?

>>65043091
And honestly I'd say any member older than Gen 5 has earned that trust.

>>65041436
>>65041763
A lot of really depressed people have a burst of happiness before they take their own life

>>65043120
Uhm, you can't say bad things. If you do, you're an incel and... I don't know, you just are.

>>65043134
It's even more funny when you remember the "Niji family is great!" or the "I LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOVE NIJISANJI" tweets.

>>65043156
Only men do that.

when you are growing up and reaching around 30 you get doubts about your legacy and your future. Some people have more problems with not leaving a legacy some more. Shion currenlty cant see just how much value she has by helping thousands and thousands of people across the world to get through another day, cheer them up during hard times and so on. It's always a problem to "prove" that to them because over time you can become blind to the feedback, whether its cheerful words over different channels or seeing them at a concert.
Sure people can just "move on" to the next person that offers happiness but that doesnt devalue what you did when you did it.

>>65043134
d-e-s-u, I'm not defending Cover or the talent, I don't think it's too much to ask them to stream like once a week. But I can't say that it doesn't work because it just does.

>>65043192
That was so forced that I just can't believe twitter users fell for it.

>>65043148
they have sex

>>65043232
>that I just can't believe twitter users fell for it
I can. Twitter is full of gullible retards like that.

>>65042078
>>65042207
Letting a vtuber go makes it really hard, if not impossible, to sell more merch of her, and it leaves a hole in her gen that can't be filled. (Promise is a special case, and some bitches still miss Sana)

>>65041300
>I'm too young to waste my life working. I need to have sex and drugs instead
I wish I could have this choice

>>65041300
She got too much money and fame being young, she joined Hololive when she was 16 years old, and got stalked by unicorns multiple times, so she had to change homes multiple times too to avoid being killed.

Her life will never be normal, she never had a normal teen life or young adult life, her job was being the emotional whore of thousands of emotional damaged men, which most of them were pedophiles. Because of that, she had to be extra careful of stalkers following her home, so she ended up being mostly on home or partying with e-celebs way older than her.

You can't get back from that, not from the money privileges that allow an easy life and the constant attention of thousands of people.

Her best chance to change it all and live a normal life, is marrying a normal guy that doesn't know her past and move to the countryside.

That's why HAGs are superior most of them had normal wage slave jobs before, and had a normal life, they don't romanticize normal life because they have lived it, like Marine being a Tea Lady in office, Watame being a cleaning lady in a love hotel, Miko being a factory worker, Sora being a failed Idol, Fubuki being a failed VA, Mio being a OL, etc...

That's why they know they are living a privilege life and care about their fans and job, which mean more streams

>>65042278
>incel
>you ain't as rich as her
let me guess, no one loves you and you are poor

>>65043298
Wrong chromosomes, so you can't do that.

>>65041300
Nobody cares, she was a garbage talentless boring vtuber and was hard carried by her design.

>>65041300
Soon this will be the new normal in hololive.

>>65043384
Whoah no need to be mean with Gura

>>65043406
>>65042991

>>65043334
You could still shill hags without lying about everything other than her age

If only Gura had streamed more, Shion would have had a reason to stay online. Gura... how could you?

>>65043451
What lie anon?

>>65041300
Who?

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>>65043556
Retard

>>65041300
this is why I don't spend money on any chuuba that is younger than 27

>>65043616
There are no stalkers. She moved only once and it was because of work. The e-celebs aren't old and the speculations were her only really playing with one.
Spoonfed you dirty troll

>>65041300
I feel bad for her, in the sense that she started working when she was just 16. Man...

>>65041336
Carton is empty

>>65041385
Oh yeah, I remember your vague posting.

>>65041300

>>65043751
Make it 30.

>all those discussions and worrying when she always returns when new pokemon or kirby game is out, do 10+ hours streams nonstop and then back to MIA after credit rolls

As a fellow high school dropout i can understand her. Since her job is being terminally online, playing games and etc, she probably feels her life is empty. No amount of money and fame will fix that. I only feel satisfied and fulfilled once i go out and achieved something with real results with my own hands.

>>65042524
entertainment companies work differently.

>>65042078
The cynical answer is that having Shion leave Hololive would mean a permanent end to her merch sales and the use of her character in group projects. A certain percentage of fans will actually stop giving any money to Cover so there are financial reasons for allowing this.

>>65041300
so she barely streams and that probably extends to her other activities as well, but this is all just too much. that she can take the break is truly a luxury of working for hololive. well, whatever, i hope she ends up happy with whatever. at least she's communicating there will be a hiatus.

It's fucking insane how you can see clearly the difference between the hags and the zoomers in terms of just keeping at it.

Why are so many vtubers turning into Ted Kaczynski?

>>65041300
Gura could have saved herself a lot of grief if she had made an announcement like this before disappearing for months.

>>65041300
I can relate to her

OP literally just made up the quote.
Do your fuckin job janny.

>>65043800
The unironic pedophile probably “fans” didn’t help regarding her mental health

>>65041339
JUST LIKE MY BIDEOGAME

>>65041339
>good ending
You mean the ending where she becomes a wageslave and will probably kill herself in a few years?
Streaming is hard

>>65043384
You care enough to post, retardchama.

>>65041336
She's barely 20, doesn't even buy her own eggs.

>>65041300
>I wasted my a small number of years to become incredibly rich waaaaaaa

>>65046635
I can't imagine the emotional turmoil that must have on a growing girl's mental health.

>>65048008
Does Shion really come across as someone who's good at managing money?

>>65042775
>it has to be so demoralizing for the other holos who put in the effort.
Putting in effort still gets you more money than putting in no effort. And given that some vtubers who put in a ton of effort are literal whos, comparing yourself to others when you're pretty close to the top doesn't really make sense.

>>65048208
>waaaaa I had millions, but I spent it all woe is me
Not making it better

>>65041300
At least she has enough decency to soft-graduate rather than just phoning in a stream once a month whenever she needs a paycheck, like Ayame and Gura

It's hard to take any of these excuses seriously. Any salaryman works 10x as hard for 1/10 or less the pay. They're free to do whatever they want with the remaining 9/10 of their time. Wasting your life in a cubicle is not better than wasting it online.

>>65048455
'Woman' has been the easy mode of life for a long time, anon.

>>65048279
>Putting in effort still gets you more money than putting in no effort
No, not as a rule. He also explicitly said comparing within the same company, literal whos aren't in the picture. No shit it's demoralizing if you're working your ass off as a holo and you do worse than fucking Gura/Ayame/Shion.

>>65041300
>suspension
Nijifags can't help themselves.

>>65048674
There are reasons for that for every single one of them with easy mode being Kiara

>>65041300
bitch gonna be back the moment her savings start to dwindle

I pray every day that a vtuber gets murdered after one of these kinds of announcements, it would massively improve the hobby.

>>65043334
>HAGs are superior most of them had normal wage slave jobs before, and had a normal life, they don't romanticize normal life because they have lived it

Hit the nail on the head with a sledgehammer. Younger mega-successful chuubas seem to often develop this astounding idea that somehow Hololive or vtubing is hard work, because they don't fucking know what normal work, normal life is actually like. They become spoiled brats, living Dudley Dursleys yet they think of themselves as heroic warriors up against the evil Cover Corp which dares ask that they work for like 3 hours a week for their millions of dollars. Which makes them all the more honestly-dislikable. Girls who know what normal work and normal life is can appreciate that sitting there talking into your computer and playing games for money is basically the sweetest, nicest gig you can ask for in life outside of being paid to sleep or breathe. It's a job description that you would think would be a joke if you told it to someone 20 years ago.

>>65048674
At that point it's just entitlement. Being in a major corpo branch is such a giant popularity boost that everyone should be mindful of, and there's big popularity differences in entertainment everywhere. Effort isn't that central.

>>65049261
schizo, but I've thought the same.

>>65042775
if anything it's the opposite: it signals that the company is understanding of issues like burnout and will not fuck them over if/when it happens

Shion has never been a big name in hololive. She's a vet, like so many other vets, that has been made obsolete by the influx of more popular juniors. Her graduating would be news for a day and no longer.
Same goes for Aki and Mel and Choco and so on. These girls are obsolete and make no mistake, they are fully aware of it.

streaming is such a hard job, I hope she takes all the time she needs

This fucking post shows why people keep fucking posting bait. Because people keep falling for it.

>>65050025
Are you implying OP made shit up? I can't believe that.

>>65048674
All three who get carried hard by their artists.

>>65050025
To quote from a lyrics in my favorite vocaloid song:
"I'll lick some sweet, sweet chocolate whether it's real or not, alas."
"Whatever the truth may be, we're fed delicious food full of additives."

>>65041300
>suspension
Hang yourself, stop trying to make it so people see hololive the same as Niji, it's not going to happen.

>>65049942
Some of the old guard like Fubuki and Subaru are still very-relevant and hip to the scene to this very day, on the other hand you also have Haachamas, Ayames and yes Shions out in the mix too. Hell Miko is a Gen 0 and is still one of the main faces and forces of the company. She went from being a nobody to being a staple. Their success correlates at least somewhat to effort, when they get sporadic and stop trying and lose their finger on the pulse of what current-Hololive is, what the current meta things are etc they naturally fall behind. Shion did this to herself, but she's been flakey for years and years now already anyway so nobody is really that surprised anymore. She has a loyal core still but has not really been a current-meta Holo since like, 2020.

>>65050245
You're right. Hololive is considerably worse. They're a dying, diseased brand that is being kneecapped every day by their superior competitors, Nijisanji. Frankly I don't know how you holobronies can even stand to look yourselves in the mirror.

>>65050311
Play button?

>>65050359
LOL so fucking what. Some plastic piece of shit that literally no one cares about? The Nijisanji crew are too mature to let such pettiness impede their streaming dominance.

>>65041300
I feel like more and more people are getting to this space. Online shit is not fulfilling and was only really meant for friendless dweebs like us

>>65050420
En concert?

I was about to ask why this nijifag is so butthurt but then I remembered it's their natural state.

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>>65046483
It's a rough translation, but I don't see anything completely made up.

>>65041300
She was already on hiatus most of the time, what the fuck is she doing? If she wants to separate herself from social media so badly then she should get out of holo, go to college and get a job in real life, when she realizes that she makes 90% less money and that she is exploited by some old rich men she will realize the mistake she made, but I guess she will want to keep her passive income and not do anything else

>>65050559
... I'm only going to say this once. Just ONCE. Shut the fuck up. Backtalk me again, disparage ANYCOLOR again, and you'll see how fearsome I can be. DON'T TEST ME LITTLE BOY.

>>65050649
She wouldn't make it through college.

>>65050694
3d? Custom merch? Salary? Equal split of profits?

>>65050751
THATS IT IM COMING FOR YOU LITTLE BOY MY KATANA WILL TASTE YOUR BLOOD

>>65050875
You're going to have to fund coming after me yourself as anykuro won't fund your project.

>>65041300
>I've grown tired of online, or rather, social media interactions.
She already spoke clearly. Graduating and finding another job where she can work with people in person is the best option. I don't know why she has to re-examine anymore. Can't she choose between the job she wants or money by sticking to this streaming job she's tired of?

>>65051261
The quote is made up

>>65051483
How so? What did she talk?

>>65041300
I see she still needs correction

>>65046851
She is not going to stop working. She is still participating in events, recording song and future collaborations. She just need to touch grass, unironically.

>>65042390
>The Vei thread
What thread?

>>65041300
>I want to ride the carousel
>my fans aren't good enough
>thanks for all the money and support over the years
>don't worry about what I'm about to do
>if I come back, give me more money
Just graduate. Why would you tell your fans you were going to betray them and that they shouldn't care?

>>65042991
For some of them this is not just work anon, it's their passion.

>>65041415
yeah to me

>>65042078
i guess it's more like she is tired of the online hate rather than that

>Gura stopped streaming
>Ame stopped streaming
>Mumei stopped streaming
>Shion stopped streaming
THEY ARE

>>65053059
Overworked or lazy. No inbetween

>>65053059
>watching lazy, ungrateful whores in the first place
Can't relate. Some people just have shit taste.

First Shion, then Aqua then the duck. It's so fucking over.

basically she's tired of all the negativity on the internet
not surprising, being an famous persona is tiring with all the freaks, schizos ruin everything as always

>>65041300
only gura and ayame have streamed less than shion. she won't be missed

>>65041300
She wakes up every night in a cold sweat and embarrassment from that kda cover. She can't stop herself from ego searching it and needs to disconnect from the internet for a while. All revealed to me in a dream

>>65041300
Damn, maybe I really shouldn't have sent her all those death threats.....

Imagine spending literal hours of your day making sure your precious troll thread is bumped from the last page, and doing it for free.

>>65042078
I love when schizo posts get real answers instead of troll replies. Makes it seem like real people are here. All cover loses is superchats and ad rev but they keep members/merch/sponsors vs losing everything related to the ip. They offered Sana something similar because the only way to lose money is to lose the model. The only thing that might be cruel is if shion doesn’t have a share Manager that lady is getting fired

>>65041497
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>>65042189
You’re just saying she should go whore around with extra steps. She’s experienced an impossible life while gaining as little life skills as possible. She’ll still be receiving a check way above the median income from hololive paying all her bills because she’ll still have members and some ad sense coming. She’s just going to end up more depressed and probably graduate

>>65043258
>Letting a vtuber go makes it really hard, if not impossible, to sell more merch of her
As far as I'm aware this would only apply to Suisei because she still owns her character, not Cover. Every other Holo character is owned by Cover. They can do whatever they want with them. They could still be selling merchandise of Sana and Coco and Rushia if they actually wanted to. Legally there is nothing holding them back from that. They couldn't monetize anything that still uses their voice clips though.

>>65055887
>They could still be selling merchandise of Sana and Coco and Rushia if they actually wanted to.
So how much merch of them has Cover made after they left?

>>65056003
This is irrelevant. They likely haven't done anything because it would be seen as being in very bad taste. All I'm saying is characters are typically owned by the corporation and they can do whatever the fuck they want with said characters. We know for a fact Cover has complete, 100% ownership of all characters(again with the possible exception of Suisei) so there are no legal grounds to fight them on if they want to continue using characters after a graduation.

>>65041339
It's kinda implied in the game that you become some soulless husk of a normie but yeah I guess

>>65055569
Literally this lmao for a foid “experiencing life” is just riding the cock carousel until they’re ready to settle down with a good man at 30

>>65043334
>Watame being a cleaning lady in a love hotel
Wow I missed that part of her lore
>Miko being a factory worker,
>Sora being a failed Idol,
>Fubuki being a failed VA,
>Mio being a OL, etc...
Jesas...

You also missed...
>Kiara being a failed idol
>Calli being a rapping nobody before hololive

>>65042158
She left her parents because she didn't want to live under the rules. Once she moved out she realized all they did and now she has to everything herself, which made her depressed. And she dropped out of high school. This bitch would've been prostituting herself years ago if weren't for hololive.

>>65055887
>>65056305
You’re dumb and have outdated information. They own the ip but the merch rights is shared with the talents it’s why they get a cut, no matter how small, even if they put absolutely 0 effort into it. Think Spiderman torn between Sony and Disney or Shonen Jump with the author

>>65056610
Korone worked 3 convenience store jobs at the same time.

>>65056610
Yes Hololive turned failures into idols. Then like half of them started to believe they did it on their own with their fans letting them believe that

>>65056951
You don't understand how intellectual property works. It's okay, not everyone does. Just don't be retarded and act like you know what you're talking about after someone tries to educate you for being ignorant.

>>65042991
Many do and many take a pretty light workload while talking about being very busy

>>65050875
fucking kek

>>65042078
Holo whores don't need to graduate, they just become the next Hello Kitty, Snoopy or Garfield mascott character that only exists to sell merch. It's just that simple. So they can take a break whenever they want.

>>65043334
>Her life will never be normal, she never had a normal teen life or young adult life, her job was being the emotional whore of thousands of emotional damaged men, which most of them were pedophiles
The classic "this woman earning tons of money in one of the easiest, most flexible, take less effort jobs in the world while having hundreds of thousands of adoring fans while meeting other celebs and experiencing things most of us never can is a-actually a SLAVE! OF PEDOPHILES that my mind told me they want to kill her. Poor woman that never experienced drinking cheap beer, emotional unfulfillment and being a wagie. What a drama."
Never fails.

>>65043800
>"working"
>Also she stop giving a fuck about that "work" by year 3

>being this retarded
Not even worth a (You). It is a fact that this sort of lifestyle can royally fuck with someone. The psychology of it has been studied numerous times and there are a plethora of examples you can look to.

>>65056951
Yeah, I doubt they get anything after their contract expires or do you really believe that Sana got something for the recent plushie that they released?

>>65049942
She was still getting >12k viewers every time she bothered to stream (very rarely) Hard to call her unpopular.

>>65056951
>They own the ip but the merch rights is shared with the talents it’s why they get a cut, no matter how small, even if they put absolutely 0 effort into it.
You're conflating contracts with the legality of intellectual property. Stop.

>>65042078
I'm not trying to be cheeky, but many people here or in the Hololive fandom in general, don't see the problem in that because they've never had a job.

>>65057775
The point being made is that she was underage, anon.

Reminder that zoomers literally wamt to do jobs that pay 100k+ and only go to work when they 'feel like it

>>65058295
That's basically how things were for boomers so it's not unreasonable to want an easy life. You could pay off an entire college tuition with a single Summer's job. A man could provide a comfortable life complete with seasonal vacations for a family of four with a basic 9-5 that he occasionally showed up drunk for.

>>65041300
>I want to discover myself
Yikes literal female meme

In other words, "I still want to mooch memberships and merch sales off of you, so I'm not quitting, but I am being honest with you that you are going to get absolutely nothing from me as I've grown tired of pretending I care about fans." She truly is the JP Gura.

Cover needs to just fire these talents that no longer want to work.

>>65042033
This, really unhappy people keep posting on 4chan forever, convinced they're stuck.

>>65058428
>Cover needs to just fire these talents that no longer want to work.
There's no reason to, especially when streaming in general is just a drop in the bucket as far as total monetization goes. Merchandise means everything.

They're retarded millennial/zoomer women who think a million dollars means they never work again. The reason women are most consumer spending is because they blow through money like it's nothing. All of them think the money will keep coming forever, then when it doesn't they'll be angry and confused. In 20 years you'll be at walmart celebrating trans rights day buying some soi milk bug-flavored iced cream and Gura will be there asking if you want to pay a dollar extra for plastic bags (a result of President Hunter Biden's new mandate to stop pollution by plastic bags) and you'll lock eyes for a moment, then she'll look away- she knows you know she knows. She fucked up. The end. That's the rest of her life

>>65058428
>Cover needs to just fire these talents that no longer want to work.
But they generate money with 0 effort and graduations / terminations create a negative impression.

>>65056951
You're retarded.

90% of people in this thread need to go back to r9k

>>65041300
>someone who skipped college and wageslaving whining about wasting their life because they have to make a couple tweets a day
kek

>>65058920
downplaying the amount of shit holos have to do is incredibly immature

>>65050649
Maybe don't have 5billion Twitter accounts? Chocosen may be genmate but that's not a good example. also she fucks so her menhera is under control

>>65057067
>>65057914
>>65058084
You are so retarded merchandising rights is literally it’s own thing. I even gave examples so you can understand. And the sana thing was in the works before her graduation, announced before as well so yes she got a cut even though again it was probably a really small cut because it was handled by cover

>>65042450

And somehow, almost everyone out there manages to work a 40 hour work week and still have decent lives.

These girls really have absolutely no idea how insanely entitled they are or how the real world works. In the real world, if you don't put in your 40 hours of work each week, you don't get paid and you don't get to live let alone live a life of "Eh, I'll do it when I feel like it."

>>65058998
You’re retarded because by her own admission that’s not the problem

>>65058607
To be fair the retards here are the exact same way. The amount of people that think A they just got a lump sum of a million dollars immediately and B expenses do not exist is actually crazy.

>>65042775
Yea please kick Gura out

>>65043022

"My coworker works one day a year and makes more money than me" is extremely demoralizing, period.

Sure, they have their own shit to focus on, but there will always be that nagging "Why can't I do absolutely nothing and collect far more than I am?"

>>65058998
NTA, but they really don't have to do much, especially compared to real life idols. They don't even need to stream at all apparently.
Nearly all their concerts and 3D lives are pre-recorded, and so they don't even need to go in and practice dances to memorize choreography. Most of the promotions that involve them require very little of their input, and singing/voice recordings do not take that long either. Recording voice lines for things like hologra can be done from home, and they aren't allowed to do logistical work like requesting game permissions or or other technical things that managers handle.

They make their thumbnails for streams and many of them are active on social media. Some of them put in extra effort to prepare slides or images for weekly or bi-weekly morning shows or things like Mio's werewolf streams, but those members are the exception.
Holos like Shion and Gura have some of the least amount of responsibilities in the company and they never organize projects or collabs at all. The most work they do outside of streaming is voice recordings, but that doesn't require much of their time.

>>65059689
Do you have any proof of them feeling this way?

>>65059480
>You are so retarded merchandising rights is literally it’s own thing.
Which is why it's irrelevant to the discussion about intellectual property. That was even spelled out for you in one of the posts you quoted. You can't be this stupid.

>>65059556
It’s not all the girls just the ones that have never actually worked/experienced poverty or the ones that have never truly known failure. In the latters case, as she is my oshi so I have to defend her, it’s not her fault that she’s too amazing

>>65059757
>Nearly all their concerts and 3D lives are pre-recorded, and so they don't even need to go in and practice dances to memorize choreography.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xjbjdiW_pD4&t=0s
Least obvious falseflagger
Iroha for example attends dancing lessons daily

>>65058607

The median income in the US is $40,480. $1M is basically 25 years of work.

So yeah, if you make $1M at 20 years old, it means you essentially do not have to work again until you're 45 if you spend as a person who made the medium wage in the US should.

>>65058629

Exploiting people while offering them nothing is black company territory. That's exactly what they're doing with these talents who just straight up "take breaks" for literal months on end. As a business, sure, they're worth keeping around because, as you say, they print money. As a public relations stand point, it's abhorrent exploitation.

>>65042775
I doubt they will make much money off her if she's not streaming, so it doesn't make difference either way.
Depends on if Hololive's paying her a fixed salary just for existing. I'd assume such a salary exists but it's not very prominent.
Some people will probably not cancel memberships tho.

>>65059801
Your last (you) the original post asked why they don’t make merch of their graduated talents. They share the merchandising rights and because the contract is finished it’s up in the air and not worth the hassle of writing up a new one. It’s in the licensing it’s why the “black company” that is niji also tries to avoid it

>>65059689
It really just seems like you're projecting what you're feeling onto the talents. There is literally nothing that suggests any of them think this way at all. And no, the voices in your head isn't indicative of anything.

>>65059800

Literal human nature. Also, sure, the whole Kiara twitter space thing from like a month or so ago. She called it like it is; some talents get whatever they want, and others get next to no actual support from the company.

Do you have any proof that they don't?

>>65060208
You're the one who claimed they feel that way, the burden of proof is on you. Do you have any proof of them feeling this way? Last chance.

>>65060208
>kiara
roru
rumao even
kiara is jealous of everything and everyone and feels like the whole world owes her something, try harder

>>65060208
>reddit spacing
>holo anti
>KFPiss
>SHE SHE SHE SHE SHE SHE SHE SHE SHE
The whole kit

>>65041485
i cant delete anonymous
>>65041300
probably in her case she really was literally always online and never balanced touching grass but i dont see how you can avoid being online given we live in an info and service economy as proven by the pandemic. if anything being able to be a digital hermit is a massive privilege (requires having lots of money).

>>65059845
He said they don’t need to which is true. There’s a small portion that actually take up dance lessons because it’s prerecorded. Filthy clip watcher

>>65060038
You mean a woman shouldn’t live in an expensive home, buy luxury outfits, and eat out 90% of the year blasphemy.
And on to your second point they technically are still getting paid so you’re technically right but it’s not that simple

>>65043724
Faggot

>>65060057
>Your last (you) the original post asked why they don’t make merch of their graduated talents.
I never asked that.
>They share the merchandising rights and because the contract is finished it’s up in the air and not worth the hassle of writing up a new one. It’s in the licensing it’s why the “black company” that is niji also tries to avoid it
Contracts only apply to whatever merchandise is released during said contracts. There is nothing legally stopping them from releasing new merchandise so long the company sticks to property they fully own. I don't understand why this is so difficult for you to understand. The legality of contracts and the legality of intellectual property are two completely different things. Cover can do whatever the fuck they want with characters that they own.

>>65060392
janny is upset

>>65056789
damn i just jacked off to a ppv titled
>this vtuber didnt make it and now she gets creampied by ojisan for money
what couldve been

>>65060411
>Filthy clip watcher
I watched all of those streams live from start to finish
Also, stop pretending like you aren't replying to yourself

>>65059800
>>65060125
Nta but Kiara has felt that way, koyori felt that way falling behind chloe and la+, pekora when she was at the bottom, Aki getting blown past by everyone, and Mori admitting “everyone is obsessed with numbers” which really just means she is. Jealousy especially women’s jealousy exist and always will exist. You get the same thing in other corpos to not just hololive

You would be a terrible ceo to kick out a talent that is still profitable through the selling of merch while no more being a nuisance.

>>65060479
Most vtuber corpos must have the strongest moral codes then if they are just choosing to forgo easy money

>>65060681
That really only works in hololive and nijisanji though. Every other corpo would be in a bad position so he’s not exactly wrong just not this scenario

>>65042509
holy shit based if real
never even met the man but i always found him pleasant and always enjoyed his work
im glad he's making it

>>65060784
>and nijisanji
way to out yourself lmao

>>65060813
Some retard will promptly call you a cuck for saying this

>>65060719
Most realize it would likely be a net loss because it's seen as very bad taste by the community to do something like that. Cover has had several blunders in the past and stock prices dropped each time. Do you honestly believe they wouldn't get collectively shit on by the entirety of the vtuber fanbase if they tried to pull that stunt?

>>65060818
Wut
He's right. Niji has talents who don't stream regularly either but still sell merch

>>65041300
So cover endorses her grifting? What a time to be alive

>>65061327
newfag-chama...

>>65060622
>Kiara has felt that way
Kiara is always complaining about some perceived injustice done towards her.
>koyori felt that way falling behind chloe and la+
>pekora when she was at the bottom
>Aki getting blown past by everyone
This is just them feeling they're underperforming compared to their peers. That's normal and it happens to everyone everywhere.
None of these things is proof that they sit around feeling demoralized because a handful, if that, sit around and do little to nothing and still earn money from it. You faggots have no proof. The end.

fans got no one to blame but themselves to be honest
you enable this lifestyle

>>65061394
He never said sit around he just said they it’s demoralizing and gets to them. Lamy and to an extent gen 5 felt the same way as we’ll towards myth. Couple more English lessons might help you read an entire post one day

>>65061394
Ignore any post in this thread that mentions Kiara because it's just a KFPiss making everything about HER HER HER HER HER HER HER and then projecting her narcissistic cuntyness onto everyone else

>>65042078
Because workers rights?

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I'm really glad to have an oshi like Shion. Someone who really cares about her fans. Even after her hiatus announcement, she does a short stream to explain her mental state and to outlook. She doesn't want us worried about her and doesn't want to leave us in the dark for however long it is. I hope she finds the happiness she deserves one day, regardless of what that means. She might be a bratty kusogaki to everyone else, but to a long time Shiokko, she's our considerate and kind hearted princess. I'll miss her during the break, but that's okay.

>>65062129
Raito will keep her company while she's away, don't worry shiokko!

>>65061732
And yet there's still no proof of them getting demoralized over someone like Gura, just as an example, sitting around doing nothing. I accept your concession though. Also project more.

>>65061752
careful you might get banned for saying that, some KFP tranny mods shill for her as well

>>65062256
see >>65060392

>>65061732
>couple more english lessons
>he just said they it's
the irony is palpable kek

>>65059845
Was I really not clear enough? Of course, they still have to go in and learn dances by practicing once in a while because they eventually have to record the dance mocap and they can't do that without knowing the moves. But they only perform it once in a studio and can have multiple takes. They don't have to practice it like real idols who go in every single day to memorize their routines for LIVE performances.

The same is true for the songs they sing. They have to learn them for recording, but not for performing live. Some of them do perform things live occasionally, and most of them do karaoke live, but they don't have to work as much as real idols who do live performances all the time.
Daily dance practice is not something that is required of them. Iroha elected to do daily lessons because she wanted to get better at dancing in general, but most of them don't have daily lessons.

>>65062603
The vast majority of performances are live you absolute mouthbreathing troglodyte
Next you'll say Towa crying on stage during her solo concert was staged and pre-recorded
Oh wait, you don't watch concerts because you're a falseflagging nijifag

>>65060057
They released a few pieces of sana merch for a while after she graduated because it was all stuff they had already planned. But the reason they don't release standardized merch of retired talents is because it's in poor taste, not because of mechandizing rights.
They could release t-shirts or acrylic stands or anything else with past characters' images on it, but they don't because doing so would make them look bad in the eyes of the fans of any of those girls that are still around.
Imagine the hard feelings that would happen if they released merch with Rushia on it after terminating her. Do you really not understand why that would be a bad idea?

>>65062129
do you really think she will come back? I seriously doubt it. Man, if we are lucky she will go the gura route so we still see her once a year, but else... yeah sorry man.

it's heartbreaking because she is the kindest person. if only she could stop reading every comment

>>65060719
>>65063012

>>65062232
Real fans dont see their oshi as a potential love interest or as a prostitute, you degen

>>65062734
You definitely don’t watch streams if you’re claiming it’s the vast majority

>>65063012
>Kawaii, Akio Air, Tsunderia, Nijisanji, Vreverie, Wactor, Phase, Sony, Idol, Vshojo (yes you sign away merchandising rights when you join)
You believe every single corpo is being held at gun point by western twitter because…

>>65063632
Then what does a 'real' fan see them as?

>>65058631
shes gonna do exactly that

She's in her early 20s, she wants to ride the cock carousel now.

>>65063800
Their oshi

>>65062734
nta but they are not or do you believe the fes stuff is live? (aside from talking parts) Most of the time you can tell if concert is live when there are no black transitions and the talent is out of breath. Irohas is good example. Or care to give examples all the ones you think are actually done live?

>>65062734
Anon, you are clearly misunderstang what I'm saying or you have no fucking clue what you're talking about. Probably the latter.

Solo concerts are usually always live, yes. That includes things like Watame, Fifth Gen, Pekora, and Towa's recent solo concerts for example. But there have been what, four? Maybe five of them this year? That isn't the "vast majority of performances" at all, you fucking retard.

Large events like Holofes, Connect the World, the HoloSummer Splash Party concerts, Blue Journey, The New Year's Countdown Concert, and nearly every single birthday and anniversary streamed concert on their channels are all pre-recorded. You'd have to be an idiot not to know that. They literally talk about recording for these things and in the descriptions of these videos it says they're pre-recorded. Why do you think they cut to black so often between every dance number? Are you stupid? The girls who are performing in the christmas concert this year are streaming live watch alongs of the concert on their channels for fuck's sake.

>>65064060
Iroha had black transitions and it was live, your angle doesn't add up

>>65064060
>and the talent is out of breath
so pretty much every single 3D live?
>>65064102
>in the descriptions of these videos it says they're pre-recorded.
where

>>65064060
Out of breath is a bad example because Luna but some put in the description that it’s live. Even then 99.9% aren’t fully live because the duets are usually prerecorded. Even some solo lives have prerecorded moments because of that as well. Okayu and probably Suisei have come the closest to a purely live Sololive since the second holofes

>>65042078
>I don't have any mental health so nobody else should care about theirs either!

>>65042078
Ever heard of a work-life balance? Or doing an extensive job with the feeling that it isn't enough to feel happy/motivated? You must be underage.

>>65064323
>You must be underage.
The consequences of containment-breaking niche internet microcelebrities is that half this board is underaged

>>65063783
It IS the vast majority, you dumbass. By far. Think about how many individual birthday/anniversary lives they do. All of those are pre-recorded. Koyori literally just recently talked about being thankful that 8 different girls could come record at least two different dances with her for her anniversary live last month.
You. do. not. watch. streams.
>>65064102

>>65041300
she's based

>>65064404
This whole spergout just to prove your headcanon that Shion is le lazy and that hololive girls don't have a hard job?

>>65062129
Wishing for the best. She isn't the first JP to go on indefinate hiatus, be it because of physical or mental health and they all returned. If only EN could learn from JP.

>>65064490
I DO think they all work hard, at times, especially during the time they're recording and practicing. But they aren't doing those things every day and they aren't putting in a 40 hour work week when they aren't streaming like you say they do. That's retarded. And shion has some of the lowest streamed hours and very few projects compared to other members in hololive.

>>65064323
>Regular job 40-50hr work week at least 1 day off some holidays and paid time off.
>According to this anon Holos work 200 hours a week no breaks, no holidays and must work until they break down
Wow I could never make it as a vtuber sounds like torture if they have no chance to have a life

>>65060910
Don't tell them about Gilzaren

>>65041300
Does she stream every day? Probably not, so what's stopping her from going outside when she isn't streaming or from taking a vacation? I dislike when people aren't honest.

just graduate Gura Ame Shion already if they don't wanna wark let them fuck off for good, maybe they will crawl back on their knees after having to work a MCdonald's
stupid lazy whores

>>65052077
Tell that to Gura.

>low cost to keep on hand
>makes the company at least 5-10x the cost to keep them around
Yeah maybe if you could convince their ATMs to stop spending and watching they’ll get fired. Otherwise nothing will happen

>>65060038
>offering them nothing
What? They still get monthly salary (which was already raised to minimum wage from the original abysmal amount). They still get their cuts from merchs and membership (not 2% merch cuts, thanksfully). They still get ad rev. That's clearly way more than nothing.
The only thing those talents are fully missing while on breaks is SC, that's about it.

>>65041300
>I've wasted my life being online
fucking normalfags

>>65067957
Monthly salary is if they get demonetized, only gura gets insane amounts of ad rev while not streaming, and she won’t have any official merch releases so she’ll only get a small cut from shit like acrylics. HE IS WRONG but you’re definitely not right. Even if you were right your statement implies exploitation is fine if enough money is on the table

Shion probably saw Gura doing fuck all and decided "well, if she can do that, so can I". She was just bit smarter on how to handle her fans

>>65064295
I think they're almost all pre-recorded, BUT there's chunks of it that they do in 1 cut, transitioning from the dancing portion to the MC portion. I'm guessing they don't have many takes, so it's usually done in 1 or 2.

Gura and her wife impregnated each other with magic

the nets paid kevin durant $50 million for a season they knew he'd be rehabbing his injury and playing zero games just to secure his future employment

>>65059556
This is why hags are the best, they do understand how life can be. Hell AZKi only quit her OL job earlier this year. Shion, despite being a high school dropout, has had a golden opportunity handed to her and doesn’t know what an actual job feels like.

This genuinely sucks but I hope she maintains her health. She should prioritize it above everything else. I'll obviously miss her but I can definitely understand wanting to experience life and avoid burn out.

>>65073142
Yea 1-2 takes is pretty normal for the original members as they lived through it being actually live and the talented ones. That said there have been a few lives going from performing to MC sections completely live. Like just because it is prerecorded doesn’t mean a good half or more can’t pull the whole thing off completely live. It’s just easier on scheduling and helps with giving the most optimal results for fans. Also I stand by Okayu being the best overall performer in the company. It’s all for the onigirya which makes it special

>>65058295
Why the fuck not let them dream? Lord knows life wasn't kind to us millennials. Let reality hit them hard when it has to, preferably with some fucking build up in building up a skill set, though.

>>65060681
I feel like Yagoo is just not the type to fire an employee unless he really has to.

>>65074146
I don’t think holos can experience life anymore than they already have. They’ve taken trips, made friends around the world, have no worries about money, interacted with celebrities, got to act out being celebrities, been on tv, performed live on stage, has songs chart for fun, visited other countries, and enjoyed so much freedom. They live the lives rappers and zoomers on tiktok lie about.

yeah she didn't strike me as mentally stable, right there in Matsuri tier
got recruited too young
the clout and gachikois messed with her head

>>65074288
I guess my point was that I think there's very few 'lives' that are truly live, as in the people in the chat are typing while their idol girl is singing and dancing on stage. That doesn't take away from the fact that it still takes some effort and ability to go from singing and dancing to talking in an MC portion with no pause, just that there's no real feedback from the crowd.
I can't tell you what the JP side does, because I honestly don't know and this is based on everything I know from what I've watched, but I really wish we could get more things like what Kiara had a Dokomi. If you don't know what that is, Kiara went to a con in physical person, preformed what was essentially a glorified karaoke truly live, getting feedback and playing off the audience, and I just want more shit like that. Obviously it's a lot of logistical set-up, but there's just something way better about it being a true live with the crowd right there cheering you on, able to hear everything. Sure, it leads to some goofy shit and accidents, but there's so much missing that makes shit like FES feel sanitized and disconnected.

>>65075018
We have that and they are called Solo lives and they are always on premises. The only partially pre recorded moment is if they have a duet with another vtuber but there are cases of that being live as well. Which is where my case of Suisei and Okayu have come the closest to a pure 100% live in recent time. Actually the gen 5 concert as well. Before that all lives used to have chat interactions because they couldn’t or just didn’t think about prerecording back then. There’s also the princess connect vr performances and during the Kaguya Luna time there was other live vr events.

>>65041300
THIS after she been away for years?! Shion literally just shows up when a new Pokemon game comes out.
I remember she was already gone when that Switch Pokemon game came out cuz she came back to stream it.

>>65058532
Does Shion pull in huge merch numbers though? Gura could have merch of just her with a tarp covering her and it'd sell out in 5 minutes so I understand why Gura refuses to stream. I know Shion is nowhere near that but what kind of numbers does she end up doing?

>>65074624
Thats not the problem. the problem is mentally ill curators who cull hololive and boost negative posts. She specifically said it's the negativity on sicial media that makes her sick.

>>65074146
She should quit then

>>65074146
>Less popular JP Gura

>>65074624
Shion has the talent for making everyone around her horny and I’m including other holos. The difference in how Gura described her day with Okayu and Shion always makes me laugh.
>I had a date with Okayu senpai then proceeds to talk about things friends would do and oh yea kiara was there
>I met up with shion then proceeds to talk like girl having her first date
Kiara being a third wheel was also pretty funny. But back to the point even if she ended up in a more normal life the only difference would be that she’d have men all over her as opposed to women. If you think she’s in a bad place while not having to worry about anything monetary wise imagine if she was broke she’d be a bigger mess

>>65079739
I know most of you don’t pay attention to JP but shion is probably top 10 JP talents and she’s not 10. She’s arguably top 10 in the whole company as well

>>65079785
>it's the negativity on sicial media that makes her sick.
if you let it get to you - you've already lost
and this is exactly what I meant by
>didn't strike me as mentally stable, right there in Matsuri tier
and inability to ignore negativity in social media stems from
>got recruited too young

>first Shion
>then Gura
Why the fuck it always gotta be the sexo lolis?!

>>65081197
they're the most sexy and young and thus attract the most black jealousy from hags

>>65081197
pandering to pedophiles takes a toll on the mental state of normal cute girls

>>65081420
hag post, pandering to 'daddies' is natural to young women

>>65081420
I was about to list off the other lolis then I realized they might be even more unstable. It still doesn’t make you right

>>65080078
Top 10 in what? She is definitely neither top 10 in viewership nor in merch sales
Don't get me wrong, she will still be undoubtedly profitable even while on hiatus, but you are exaggerating.

>>65079606
Don't be surprised when one comes out next year, a wild Shion will appear.

>>65081907
I’ll let you answer the question yourself name 10 jp members you think are above her

>>65082058
NTA but:

Suisei
Miko
Fubuki
Korone
Okayu
Subaru
Aqua
Marine
Pekora
Noel
Kanata
Watame
Lamy
Nene
Polka
Botan
Koyori
Chloe

>>65041300
I wouldn’t worry about her too much, Just let her rest and the Holohags will definitely help her.

>>65082058
They don't know her CCV numbers. And it looks like the other guy is just using their make-belief metrics. Rhetorical questions and trying to convince these idiots are meaningless.
I'd just leave rational arguments and call out lies for unbiased lurkers from someone that actually watches her

I've only used Shion('s design) as fap material and barely caught her streams but I hope she'll be able to make the most of her hiatus, whether it be for finding what she's looking for, or for getting fresher perspectives in life, or for whatever she plans on doing. As a young adult who's lost in life, I wish her the best for her future.

>>65082058
>>65083706
Wasn't paying attention to this thread, but if you are talking about merch sales, here you go - latest update on Holo friends with you series:
>hololive friends with u Vol. 6
>hololive friends with u Sakamata Chloe 5000 $21.00 $105,000.00
>hololive friends with u Omaru Polka 2974 $21.00 $62,454.00
>hololive friends with u Tokoyami Towa 5674 $21.00 $119,154.00
>hololive friends with u Murasaki Shion 2700 $21.00 $56,700.00
>hololive friends with u Sakura Miko 9984 $21.00 $209,664.00
>hololive friends with u AZKi 3074 $21.00 $64,554.00
>$617,526.00
She couldn't even beat Pol freaking ka, anon

>>65084769
If we are talking about CCV, Dec Average so far:
>Marine: 38.2k
>Pekora: 29.4k
>Miko: 25.8k
>Ayame: 22.5k
>Korone: 21.5k
>Aqua: 18.6k
>Subaru: 16.3k
>Mio: 15.9k
>AZKi: 15.8k

>Shion: 15.1k
You can argue that she barely got into top 10 here with Suisei having a weaker month, I suppose

>>65082639
So what criteria are you using by putting Nene there?

>>65084769
Friends with you series is far from the best metric towa is beating Chloe

>>65085724
You say this like Mio isn’t there with a stronger than normal month