/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

>>6493864
Triagle?

>>6493864
Her own Vtuber agency?

live bathtub party or something like that

>>6493864
Expect many seemingly random graduations soon.

>>6493864
it's just some News show again retards

>>6493864
The destruction of China.

>>6493864
Being a bitch whore?

Joining VShojo.

>>6493864
Weather Hackers becomes the new Chinese national anthem

>>6493864

>>6493864
I dunno if I want this or if I want to just watch her having lazy fun

>>6493864
interviews show, do your reps

>>6493864
Holy shit, she's making her own agency, the prophesy is fucking happening.

Not a vtuber. Fuck off

>>6493898
>>6494141
>>6493909

Do you seriously think Cover was dumb enough to not make her sign a noncompete contract?

>>6493864
getting married to me

TRUST THE PLAN

>>6494207
Yes she is goofy chink, do your reps or fuck off

>>6494219
It's cover we're talking about here.

>>6494219
Are you seriously dumb enough to think that would hold up in court after she's graduated? Cover doesn't have anything to worry about from Coco anyway, even if she did start her own idol agency. Unless she ends up being the worlds best recruiter, they'd do worse than Nijisanji.

>>6494219
>make her sign a noncompete contract
I don't think they could do that

>>6493864
starting escort agency with hologirls

>>6494219
>Do you seriously think Cover was dumb
Yes.

>>6493899
>live bathtub party or something like that
yeah, me with your mom & sis, you didn't know

>>6494299
I mean, they COULD, I just don't think Coco would sign it and I bet her lawyer could get that contract rewritten realllllllll easy.

>>6493864
She about to kyoani'd cover's hq

>>6494282
All she has to do is put less restrictions on talents and others will go to her. She's famous, she'll attract people.

>>6494382
see:
>VShojo

>>6493864

Coco:

>>6494382
Sure, she'll get some interest, and there will be a big initial push, but you need more than just a name to carry you. She'd have to recruit some serious knock-out talent to keep the company afloat beyond the first six months of "because it's Coco".

>>6494219
Absolutely

>>6493864
Given what we've seen, I'd think it'd be less of a full agency and more of a consulting firm. I believe that she really wants to help those who need it, and name recognition, experience, and connections, it would make more sense for her to do that then to try and make a full agency. This lets her help more people without getting bogged in trying to manage a bunch of talents.

I love how anons just assume that Coco's experience as an entertainer would translate into providing an agency that won't crash and burn as soon as she is supposed to avoid causing drama

Trust the Plan anon
soon it will all make sense

>>6493864
It's the scam as usual
Get all the sheep to jump over and milk them of their money and abandon that identity in a year or two.
But happily she'll get enough retards to shill for them here because SHE MADE CHINA MAD!! You're all suckers playing into her hands.

>>6493864
It normally fails when a person talks ahead of anything. That's how you cope when your present is failing.

>>6494219
Noncompetes outside of industries "of national security importance" got outlawed in Japan in 2013, I'll try to find the link later.

>>6494527
You’re right, the people at the hospital also want to take all of your blood and inject you with bad water

>>6494421
I said less restrictions, not no restrictions.

>>6494500
Unless she could guarantee they get to keep their hundreds of thousands they make per year there is zero chance they would jump ship.
Not to mention they lose their live2d and can’t advertise their previous life due to Covers NDA.
There’s only a handful of Holos that have been actively spotlighting their alt account.

>>6494553
>Believing and being excited for your future = cope that you are a failure
How is that ideology going for you anon?

What the fuck does Kson know about owning a company? She has experience as an entertainer. Unless she's been taking business courses behind the scenes I don't see her as some rising star mogul just because she was Coco.

>>6494448
True. But I'm one of those who believes in the rrat about Coco being at least partially responsible for EN picks. I believe she can get good talents.

>>6494662
Coco picked Kiara

>>6494580
I know you're memeing, but there was a hospital like this in Czechoslovakia back before the split, killing people this way to resell organs to the west.

>>6494241
WWG1WGA

>>6494682
You might not like her but Kiara is doing better than the vast majority of hololive. I'd say Coco chose well.

>>6494637
I don't give a hint of anything, results eventually follows. Recently installed 3kWh + 5kWh battery solar PV.

>>6494524
t. Q

>>6493935
Ogey Zhang, nice try go back to your NGA board and eat roaches with your friends.
https://youtu.be/vH7tFaTeIcc?t=10 [Embed]

>>6494654
>Unless she's been taking business courses behind the scenes
I don't think she's some genius but she's not some fucking retard who needs bullshit like this to succeed

>>6494241
>>6494524
>>6494696

Sirchamas, I don't think this plan will help us get back the White House.

>>6494747
But anon you are not an online entertainer. Kson is telling something to the public, that will need the publics knowledge of it to succeed. If you wanted to install solar pannels in your community, you would need to tell them and get them interested in the idea

>>6493864
Coco>Kson. Still waiting for that awsome not being held back by the management stream....kson stream is dead boring.

>>6493864
The biggest cope was kson herself all along

>>6494703
>vast majority of hololive
Name 'em faggot

>>6494219
>Do you seriously think Cover was dumb
yes, i hope she create a competing agency

>>6493950
only in your dreams dramabaiter, she said she won't join any agency anymore. So, if possible she would start her own.

>>6493864
Doing two chicks at the same time, followed by 8 hours of some jankass survival game.

>>6494896
Unless she plans on streaming butt-ass naked I can't think of anything Kson could stream that Coco couldn't. Coco did plenty of raunchy crap that the management probably didn't like.

>>6494308
>>6494362
Ogey Zhang, nice try go back to your NGA board and eat roaches with your friends.
https://youtu.be/vH7tFaTeIcc?t=10

Imagine doubting BIG PLANS
She’s not starting an agency, everything she said points out to a support role for indies but that’s as far as anyone should assume.

>>6494860
You did ask for result of that ideology, had my answer and it's universal.

There's no idea, but her daydream only.

>>6494219
Considering how global this fad is, I do think they were't dumb to make her sign a noncompete contract, In japan.
But I do think that they did not make the contract be valid worldwide.
She can immigrate back to USA, open a company there and start again if she wants to

>>6494918
and drag her talents down to their graves.

>>6494991
Keep crying retard, it’s not her fault your oshi lacks ambition and drive.

>>6494924
Ogey

>>6494448
Anon, Coco's numbers (SC and Views) came most of the time from Meme Review and Asacoco, her regular streams would get worse numbers than Kiara.
Coco main appeal is through collaboration overall, like Tamaki from Noripro because on her own it can't do much.

>>6495016
Ambition won't mean shit when Coco decides that it's worth making enemies of everyone because she can't be diplomatic to save her life whilst dragging everyone she hired until then into obscurity

>>6495016
Ambition and drive? coco lost that when she was having less than 10k viewers in her regular streams before the grad announcement.

She thought it was no longer worth it, wanted to escape the zhangs, not because she had more things planned.

>>6494654
>Unless she's been taking business courses behind the scenes
She actually does have a management-related postgraduate degree, though she didn't say exactly what courses she took.

>>6495109
While that is true, it’s also because she mostly played debuff games and kusoges.
She got the same numbers as most holos when streaming stuff like minecraft and monhun.

How are you coping with the slow decline of the vtubing golden age?

>>6494957
I agree with your ideology and I follow it myself almost to a fault, but in this case the ideology literally could not work. If your doing a group project and tell no one about it its not a group project

>>6495124
> escape from Zhang
> Zhang follow Kson anyway

Retardchama

>>6494247
No degree of separation from roommate = not a VT

>>6494917
Mel, Choco, Aki, Roboco, Luna, both ID Gen 1 and Gen 2, everyone else who has yet to reach 1 million subs
You can be a crybaby and hate Kiara all you like, but she is objectively a success.
>B-but she only averages 2-3k viewers!
Do you really want to humiliate Aki further? Leave her alone, asshole

Did OP expect anything from this board other than complete rrats with no shred of evidence? Who knows what is ricocheting inside the woman's head? She has enough money to sit back and relax for a while.

She's probably just talking about her soft re-debut, everyone calm your tits.

Also, from the looks of it from her latest stream she's just wants to help indies and smaller chuubas, I don't think she's planning to make a full-blown vtuber agency just yet

>>6495121
Sounds like you’re talking about a completely different person, you don’t know anything about her.

>>6495124
She never gave a shit about numbers in the first place, otherwise she wouldn’t tell her chat that they shouldn’t watch all her streams because she always tried to make content for different demographics.

She left Cover precisely because of ambition, you can cry all you want here but she’ll be streaming for a LONG time, better get used to seething from now on if you want to keep banging your head against a wall.

>>6495121
>enemies of everyone because she can't be diplomatic
Zhang detected

>>6495109
>SC from Asacoco and Meme review
lol

>>6495124
> Coco
> Escape from Zhang
> CHINK cannot spam Coco before graduation 2-3 months ago

>>6495225
I was a hair away from putting “only schizos and rrats allowed” when i made the thead

Kson is impotent
-Ugly (model)
-Bad at vidya
-Non-moé voice
-Cant sing
-Cant collab with chuubas

Never graduate kids

>>6495109
Do you ever watch her stream except Reddit meme review?

>>6495244
>>6495247
I'm no zhang, but i will still stand by that only an absolute retard would decide to rile up her antis before even finding out what the hell their deal is, but all in all i'm happy that the chinks removed themselves from the fandom after that, at least for the most part

>>6495315
She was easily among the 3 best monhun players in hololive

>>6495337
She did not do it to rile them up newfagchama she did it to get them off of haachama

>>6495337
Ah, you’re one of those that think the ending card is the reason chinks are angry.
You should have stated that you’re a newfag from the beginning.

World conquest

>>6495109
oi EOP newfagchama, Coco's high SC revenue streams were always from her Zatsudan & Bar Coco streams (in fact the lowest were the MonHun & Meme Review streams) which none of EOP scums ever bothered to watch as talked mostly in japanese.
Also, fun fact EOP nigger 92%~95% of Coco's SC in every stream came from the Jap gachikois.

>>6495372
The end justified the mean.
She really save Haachama intentionally it or not. Chink in NGA was planning to attack Haachama.

>>6495315
and she was still one of the most popular vtubers ever, and also one of the most influential, and will continue to find success when she starts streaming again
seethe eternally

>>6495315
Ogey Zhang, nice try go back to your NGA board and eat roaches with your friends.
https://youtu.be/vH7tFaTeIcc?t=10 [Embed]

>>6495382
it wasn't the sole reason retard, but it still provided ammunition to them, which she clearly has no problem providing whenever something happens

I really hope that she starts with something big and blow up even more.
Not only for her good, but for others sake.
If she became big and create own circle (not full agency) it can be a good sateftly net for corpo vtubers.
Haachama or Shion doesn't have anything beside Hololive and are on the brink of quitting. Kson can give them a second chance. Same with indies or others who quitted companies.

>>6495400
t. contrarianfag

>>6495408
It is not the end justified the means retard
it was obviously intentional

>>6494618
Mori is her own biggest doxxbeat

>>6495235
>she's just wants to help indies and smaller chuubas

So form a group like Koopa?

>>6495400
NTA but EOP know and watch about Bar Coco and Zatsudan stream too. I also watched hot bathing (Onsen?) Zetsudan with you jp bros.

T. Kiyru Kai American rainbow bedage

>>6494662
>Coco being at least partially responsible for EN picks
is that supposed to be a point for or against her?

>>6495435
Nah, if anything she’s too nice and diplomatic, living in japan for so long made her a fag.
Nothing changed after that card, they spammed her twitter with gore for a month before that and they kept at it even after she apologized on stream on her return.

>>6495486
No, form a group with Koopa

imagine it...a real life kiryukai...

>>6495443
Ogey lobotomized nigger whatever you say, but did you check her monthly playboard statistics.
Mine are facts and you are just a EOP retard who knows nothing about Coco or Kson and just came here to spout BS.

>>6495419
Anon we're talking about kson, not coco

>>6495441
I mean, on Haachama previous break before this one some schizoa raides some new debuted indie thinking is Haachama but at the it wasn't.
Yet the numbers during the raiding were far worse than Haachama.

>>6495553
Anon i dont know if you know this but they are the same person

>>6495400
Coco has gachikois?

>>6495460
It opposite anon.
This is the truth behind the scene.

> Chink in NGA was planning attack Haachama after she said Taiwan.
> after 8 hours in mid night , Coco TW happened. She did not know about Haachama incident.
> Chink in NGA screamed and angry Coco and create rrat " Coco intentionally said it for protect Haachama"

> The truth is Chink created this narrative by themself in NGA and 4chans

Source : NGA topic " about attcking Haachama " in September last year.

>>6495629
How many newfags can you spot in this thread? I think I see three!

>>6495629
they all do

>>6495419
Kson has never been popular retard

>>6495629
No, she doesn't.

>>6495664
Listen, i dont know if you are a chinamen, a jap or a SEA but you have to learn english if you want to speak to other english people, I cant understand you

>>6495629
Newfagchama.....

>>6495675
She's popular right now.

>>6495441
nearly every known jp vtuber is a corpo vtuber. most of them just dont make much money. shut-in trannies on twatter are too socially inept and anti-social to understand how society works, and they just romanticise indies an unrealistic way. "totally solo" vtubers are just amateurs.

the actual problem is if anything youtube. the amerimutt sjw platform forces vtubers to follow their crappy prudish moral standards and keep indies irrelevant. if kson is gonna ever run a new platform it may become a paradigm shift of the industry, but otherwise, nothing will change. the industry is already oversaturated.

She has no big plans you retards, You morons think she's just gonna open a fucking comedy with zero experience.
She's obviously brushing up her horrendous avatar.
Overlay/loading screens/ending screens/BGM/sub/follow/donation sounds.
She's literally just gonna stream games and sing, stop expecting something so grand you massive retards.

>>6495742
What tf are you talking about sjws for? The only thing they’ve impacted as far as I can tell is nyanners and who gives a shit about her

>>6495629
for god's sake get the fuck out of /vt tourist, you don't know shit about Coco.

>>6495579
Not that anon, but the one I was interested in was Hololive 2D dragon Coco, not indie 3D woman Kson who occasionally uses a 2D avatar. The same reason I don't see Holo's 3D roomates as the Holo themselves - connected to? Sure. The same? Nope. What made Coco, Coco was more than just the roomate herself

>>6495742
Now post without any retarded buzz words

>>6495714
his point is that Coco saying it to protect Haato is a rrat. which it is

>>6495714
Sorry , about that
Let make it short
> Chink in NGA plan to attack Haachama before Coco said Taiwan in the first place.
> Chink in NGA created rrat about " Coco want protect Haachama" by themself and believe it

> You can find evidence about this in NGA board. It postd around the end of September last year.

>>6494219
Only in America is that kind of contract viable. Japan doesn't do non-competes if the person is no longer employed with the company.

>>6495759
you are clearly a newfag, she clearly stated what she is currently working on this month in her last mildom stream.
If you are gonna make shit up in your mind and spew it here then no one will spoon feed you.

She's going go be the new prime minister of japan

>>6495815
>>6495809
Didn't Coco bring up Taiwan a couple of days after Haachama? If so, I highly doubt she was ignorant, holo managers must have been bouncing off the walls telling people not to talk about that kind of stuff

>>6495846
You can't understand Japanese so please stop talking, She'll grab a few indies and maybe some Holo room mates and create a group but it won't be anything official or too serious.

>>6495668
>>6495688
>>6495734
>>6495775
Jeez, that was a half joke post...

>>6495909
The other half: retardation

>>6495775
>you don't know shit about Coco
This post comes off as pretty ironic since apparently you're not aware gachikoi 0 was one of her oldest and most common running gags.

>>6495766
>>6495800
you amerimutts always keep denying your woke trash but factually the reason hololive stopped using swimsuit 3d models is because of youtube. kanata mentioned it in the jumpking stream, also its confirmed that cover is still aggressively using it for japanese.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r7vQrteO1SM

which means even indies cant do any radical or counter culture/punkish stuff as long as they use gaytube or twitch indies also have to follow youtubes puritanical globohomo standards the same way hololives do.

>>6495866
>Didn't Coco bring up Taiwan a couple of days
no. about 8 hours after Haato in a show full of scripted skits

>>6495962
Yes, that’s the joke she started, gachikois telling her they’re not gachikois... it’s a running joke, you’re not supposed to take it seriously.

>>6495501
Don't act dumb, ENs are fantastic, their huge success is due to how much of diamonds in the rough they are. Who knew that this indie rapper barely anyone heard about would be so popular/relatable/adorable, that this gap moe shtick would actually work. Who knew that this shut-in socially stunted artist can be so ridiculously cute. Who knew that a washed up idol at the bottom of her career can be so entertaining that she quickly gathered a cult-like following. Ame was just streaming apex and overwatch all day, 0 achievements, but now /hlgg/ is pretty much /ameg/. Gura was depressed, absolutely hated herself and her fans but given a second chance rose to incredible heights and made things she didn't even dream about before.
This is all about recognizing talent and potential. This is the key. It's like a textbook definition of an idol - some nobody you watch grow into a beautiful gem everyone loves and admires.
This is why so many people are not so satisfied with who they picked for Vsinger - she's not a diamond in the rough, she's already been polished for 10 fucking years, little room to grow. I like IRyS very much, but it's not the same idol feel as with the rest of EN.

>>6495866
A couple of hours, not days

>>6495995
Cover literally apologized and said it was their fault for not warning the other holos about what happened.
The tweets are still up

>>6495989
I am not american, but are you sure that it is sjw shit and not the fact advertisers (who are retarded) dont want their ads running on “edgy” content. Hell people get demontized for swearing is that also sjw shit?

>>6496031
nice pasta but i ain't hungry

>>6496063
I typed it right now, with those fingers. Read it!

>>6496031
No one is going to read your essay especially if it starts with ENs are fantastic

>>6495962
yes gachikoi 0 was a running gag in her channel but unfortunately it was only till may 2019 clipfaggot, and I know exactly which clip you got that from - the clip of her stream with Tamaki. That gag completely disappeared by August 2020. From, late 2020 Coco's catchphrase was in English version was "You guys may say you all are my gachikois, but am a bigger gachikoi for my tasunokos".
Do your nihon lingo reps and watch her streams more CLIPFAGGOT.

>>6495337
>>6495435

> only an absolute retard would decide to rile up her antis before even finding out what the hell their deal is
We know what the deal is with nationalists or religious fundamentalists. Did you seriously suggest we don't? Or that anything would change with such knowledge? Did you think that by that point, you would still be able to appease the nationalists who believe in their own BS narratives? Write an essay about how to do that.

Once you figure out how futile that is, and that the nationalists are pretty much unappeasable, the logic becomes clearer. She has no sway over them, but she has sway over the fanbase who already hate the nationalists' guts. If she capitulated or appeased, see what happened to John Cena. If she stayed silent, that kind of personality would not be half as popular as she is. Which brings us to the real reason, she is popular because she is forthright, and in the same vein, she took forthright actions knowing it will make her even more popular. The nationalists were a blip compared to the worse possibility of her base abandoning her. The base is her livelihood which is more important, not the harassers.

>>6496044
Was this a prerecorded video or a stream? If it was prerecorded and Coco herself uploaded it I'm believing the rrat.

>>6496079
>with those fingers
did you at least wash your hands before? hygene young man hygene!

>>6493864
International Vtuber Grand Nkodice Tournament

>>6496048
They don't care.

>>6496031
>The IRyS criticism meta is now "She's too good".

>>6495875
Unlike you EOP scum, I did my kana reps. So, I don't talk shit like you without proper info. Go back to watching clips faggot

>>6496094
Fuck you /hlg/.

>>6496048
thanks for adding to my point?

>>6495962
/vt/ cocotards dont know shit, they're the worse posters here

>>6495218
Shut up fag.

>>6496136
It was Asacoco and she mentioned that she was pretty surprised the management stopped her midstream, so it probably wasn't pre-recorded

>>6496050
what are the "prudish advertisers". never heard of such a thing. jp streams are all advertised by jp companies that dont give a single fuck about any sexual/violent content in anime like the nissins commercial actually aired on japanese tv.

also at least ive brought one evidence here. cover is still using their 3d swimsuit model so the ban wasnt covers decision. the stupid rrat about it is now totally dead. its actually because of youtubes gay ass sjw moral standards. if you are an indie vtuber and your avatar is in swimsuit, you also can be banned by youtube.

>>6496050
It's a bunch of different groups that have vested interest in keeping smaller companies from competing. SJWs use reporting and disproportionate vocal presence on places like Twitter to generate outrage, and larger news and entertainment companies run with the stories to spook advertisers so that everyone falls in line with mundanity, in which larger orgs will be able to big down their competition with their larger watchests.

Remember, they want a race/social war so you don't notice the class issues at play.

>>6496213
I dont know what that is because im not a faggot, Im not going to read an essay about vtubers, especially english ones, im too busy READING SHAKESPEAREAN PLAYS

>>6496179
It's one guy, and not even in an Irys thread. What is this diamond in the rough standard? I didn't know Cover had to hire losers and polished them up like some kind of underdog stories. In fact you aren't even supposed to know who they used to be.

>>6496259
Where do these newfags come from?

>>6496031
ENs are trash eops standards are low as expected

>>6496121
>till may 2019
Dude what, that's kind of embarrassing. She hadn't even debuted yet. Don't try to one-up people when it's clear your own point of reference is clips. The joke lasted all the way till the end, the revival stream from January was all about that. Even now if you went to freechat and asked them if they're gachikoi you'd get a bunch of chungus emojis.
I wasn't even the guy who made that first post but it was pretty obvious "Does Coco have gachikois?" was just him referencing the joke.

>>6496136
Anonchama, Asacoco take several to finish it and she just sleep when Haachama TW happened.

Coco had no way to know about Haahama TW incident because Haachama streamed in Bilibili not Youtube.

Bilibili is true culprit in Coco TW.

>>6496374
yea my bad it was may 2020

>>6494219
Of course

Consider the following:

>>6496332
Majority of Coco fans right before her graduation were newfags who came to whiteknight her because of Taiwan incident

>>6496277
>>6496279
I agree with the sjw shit dont get me wrong, but youtube in particular has pulled back on anything remotely controversial, they even demontize videos promoting sjw shit (because from what Ive heard they demonitze political shit in general. Ive heard Youtube has bots that scan the first 5 mins of vids for swearing and demonetize them, thats why some youtubers censor swearing at the beginning of the video but leave the rest of it. Sjw shit has obviously impacted advertising and media in general but for youtube its because of the whole companies dont want coke ads airing on “alabama nigger and i wanna be free” and hitler speeches

>>6496453
Whiteknightingjanai, I came to pay my respects

>>6493864
Looks like Kson is planning something special. Whatever that might be, I know for a fact she will deliver.

>>6496453
Not really, it's just that over here everyone feels the need to have strong opinions and have them heard even when they don't actually know anything about her.

Bilibili is true culprit in Coco TW

Reason
> Asacoco is pre-record
> Bilibili has translation group control and check about content of Hololive member.
> They can cut and censor before mirror stream in Bilibili.
> They can censor everything like Wuhan virus or Taiwan word in real time.

> But somehow , Translation group in Bilibili not do they job but let it TW segment pass.
> Drama happen

>>6494219
>Do you seriously think Cover was dumb enough to not make her sign a noncompete contract?

Yes.

>>6496644
Asacoco wasn't pre-recorded ESLchama

>>6495989
>No swimsuit for Pekora
since I can't blame changs for this one, I'll blame the jew

>>6496712
It is pre-record anon. She even said about use several hours to finish Asacoco with Watamage help.

>>6496793
There are pre-recorded skits but the whole thing isnt prerecorded

>>6496830
Can you tell TW segment pre-record or not?

>>6496793
Only the ads and skits were pre-recorded, the rest of the show was live

>>6495866
>>6496136
>>6496259
Why are you people here spreading your braindead narratives when you're so fucking clueless that you don't even know if Asacoco is a live show or not? It's called Asacoco LIVE you dumb motherfuckers. I know you don't speak Japanese, but even EOPs should be able to discern that it's live. Look at the title. Holy shit.

No, Coco do anything to "protect" Haachama. She just didn't know about the ban, and showed her analytics in response to a question from some EOP she got a day or so before. There is no conspiracy, just two girls coincidentally looked at their analytics in a short time frame because Cover never told them not to.

And Coco didn't recruit any EN either. In a company with more than 100 employees, streamers with no involvement in the business aspect of the company are not involved in the hiring process.
>>6496644
>>6496793
Do not make posts like this when you have no fucking idea what you're talking about.

>>6496793
Asacoco was live with pre-recorded skits/CMs and a script

>>6496445
Selfcest...

>>6494219
The Japanese constitution guarantees freedom of choice of employment. Most noncompetes in Japanese employment contracts are unenforceable because they would infringe on the employee's constitutional rights. Whether a noncompete is enforceable depends on damage done due to use of confidential information or business contacts. Also generally restricted to a term of 2 years. Though, given this I think a noncompete preventing creating a vtuber agency would be enforceable in this case as its hard to argue such an agency wouldn't rely on former business contacts and NDA information.

>>6493864
She is Trump's daughter. She just love to speak like that.

>>6494219
Cover didnt make them sign noncompetes because they thought owning the character and technology was the important thing and the talents are infinitely replaceable

>>6496981
This is the activation of the emergency broadcast system
Fuck Donald Trump
Fuck Donald Trump
Yeah, nigga, fuck Donald Trump (It's for our people)
Yeah, yeah, fuck Donald Trump
Yeah, fuck Donald Trump (Ain't nobody else gon' speak up, we gon' speak up)
Yeah, fuck Donald Trump
Yeah, nigga, fuck Donald Trump
Yeah, yeah, fuck Donald Trump
I got a question
How'd he make it this far? How the fuck did it begin?
A Trump rally sounds like Hitler in Berlin
Or K*K shit, now I'm goin' in
I'm just sayin' what's real, I don't give a fuck who I offend
'Cause it's gotta be said, it's gotta be said
It's off the top like the toupee on Donald Trump's head
This man's not peaceful, racism's evil
This man hates Muslims, that's a billion fuckin' people
If truth be told, Donald is a terrorist
Reasons why the world's got a problem with Americans
The fuck is goin' on? People just passed
A mass murder happened, you said thanks for the congrats
You tryna get your votes up, you don't got class
Orlando was a tragedy, you react fast
And then made it 'bout you, to boost your campaign
It's goin' all bad if he wins this damn thing
Man America is fucked if he's next up
Take a day to undo what Obama fixed up
It's Young Gerald so you know who said it
And Ivanka can get it, straight up

>>6496898
I understand it but I want to point about

" Coco do not know Haachama incident before she did Asacoco in that day"

And

> Translation group in Bilibili side should censor about this TW segment but they let it passed. Bolibili is sus in the beginning of Drama.

>>6497054
Asacoco is a live show. The translation group does not know what's in it until it streams, then they add translations to the archive.

>>6496890
I said it wasn't pre-recorded, though?

>>6496890
Asacoco has pre recorded segments, also why were chinks on Coco’s ass way harder then haachama if they both made the same mistake? Did chinks believe the rrat too?

>>6494682
Good pick

>>6497094
They can censor some words in the real time anon. They are the best in this regard.

>>6497094
The restream wasn't live as far as I know.

>>6494219
when Coco started in December 2019, Hololive was still small, and they never imagined how much it would grow, so it's very hard to think at that time that something like this would be a threat for the business, less likely that they would take safety meassures against it

>>6497135
>Did chinks believe the rrat too?
Yes, they think Haachama said Taiwan accidentally, then Coco said Taiwan on purpose.
>>6497180
They can not do that. Chinese people are not fucking wizards.
>>6497212
It was live and she literally got a permanent stream ban before the show ended.

>>6497135
> They created rrat by themself and believe it

>>6497212
If I remember correctly, They call mirror stream.

>>6497135
several reasons from what i remeber. a lot of them saw haachama as a retarded kid who fucked up while Coco already had lots of antis since she pretty much ignored billibilli. so with some fresh amunition the antis got more and more people involved

>>6497135
Coco is half hamburger so...

You guys don't actually believe that she could create a successful vtuber agency right?

>>6497263
Bilibili can anon.
It not really "real time stream "
but it's" mirror stream ".

Mirror stream= " Realtime stream " + Delay time like several seconds for censor or mute it.

>>6497372
more believable than the shitshows running cover, niji etc

>>6497372
She can do whatever the fuck she wants.

>>6497268
>>6497267
>>6497263
Chinese anti’s are bugs, I find it hard to believe they would spare haachama out of kindness. There is no way that a simple rrat could cause them to be so assblasted, some of them must have known that Coco saying it was an accident. This might be a little schizophrenic but Dragons are very very very important beings in chinese culture and are reserved for the highest rulers and emperors and shit like that, coco being a dragon unironically had something to do with the autistic rage

>>6493864
Not a vtuber go somewhere else

>>6497427
and fail

>>6497475
>She's not a Vtuber, because I said so.

>>6494219
WHAT'S KOKO KAZUMA DOING IN THE IMPACT ZONE JOSH YOU INSUFFERABLE FAGGOT

>>6494219
I mean...it's cover.

TLDR

Mirror stream in Bilibili = realtime stream + delay time ( second or minute scale ) for translation group can cut, censor or mute it.
But in this drama, something very wrong happened .

> Bilibili side just let TW mention segment pass without censor anything and this is very sus.
> We can say Bilibili want drama.

>>6493864
Literal Qtards ITT
Nuke this fucking board already

>>6497010
Nobody learned from the Kizuna Ai debacle, it seems.

>>6497415
They had the contacts, I guess coco has contacts in talents but she doesn't have any actual business contacts

>>6494964
She probably will in the near future. The way she spoke about KanaCoco house was that Kanata would be staying and Coco would be the one to leave if anyone left. The lease is probably in Kanata's name as the guarantor because Japanese housing is still very xenophobic(Coco was born in US) and won't let non-Japanese stay in most decent apartment complexes. Mori and Kiara learned that the hard way.

>>6495218
Oh so now you make the rules? Fuck off.

>>6497768
That mean KanaCoco is forever.

>>6493864
She started a corporation with alice lps a few months ago

Ib4 you guys dont know who alice lps is protip samegaki

>>6497675
if you're talking about corporate sponsors and investors, she doesnt want them

>>6495159
Also true. Coco actively avoided Nintendo titles completely until Kanata bought her the switch then she play Mario Kart a couple times with the girls and didn't touch it again. She worked for SEGA iirc, and basically swore off the competition back then and kept her word. Hololive just gets permissions from Nintendo much more easily.

>>6493864
Do you think she wants revenge on Cover management? I'm not sure given her friends still work there.

>>6493864
She is going to become jp codemiko with kumichou 2.0

>>6497389
Literally every website can stream with a delay, anon. It doesn't mean it gets used. Stop posting this retarded shit when you don't understand how livestreaming works.
>>6497429
You apparently don't understand bugs as much as you think you do. They believe stupid shit really easily, and the fact that they believe that one was an accident and the other was on purpose makes all the difference in the world.
>>6497768
She isn't leaving Japan unless she's forced to. And the apartment is in Coco's name.
>>6497879
If only there was a way you could be sure, like perhaps watching a stream.

>>6495825
There isn't any sort of noncompete they could have her sign that would even hold up in a US court.

>>6497879
>her friends still work there.
for now

>>6497768
>The way she spoke about KanaCoco house was that Kanata would be staying and Coco would be the one to leave if anyone left
Nah, they haven't talked about it like that. The topic only came up because uninformed people kept asking if her leaving Hololive means leaving Holohouse since that nickname had confused them into thinking it's some official Cover thing and not just their own place.

>>6497840
You kinda need them unless she feels like paying herself for all the art, rigging, salary, and whatever the talents need, assuming she doesn't want an office or establish a brand because if she wants to that's way more things to pay for

coming to my house and crushing my head like a watermelon between her thighs.

>>6497427
no one is doubting that she can create whatever she want and slap sticker with it's purpose on it, the question is if will be viable

I'm concerned. Why are anons in this thread shitting on Kson? Do you fucks have a vendetta against her or something?

>>6498136
Would you take the cocock

>>6494219
yes

>>6498109
she has 10x more money than cover did when they started out

>>6498183
are people not allowed to shit on her or something?

>>6498183
They are just envious of her.

>>6497909
> It doesn't mean it gets used
> China which country can ban and censor everything in this world
> Bilibili which can censor word like "Wuhan virus" in real time.

Do you really believe what you just said ? Sir

>>6498247
>I have no idea how to conduct business

>>6498183
>I'm concerned. Why are anons in this thread shitting on Kson?

Cover Bootlickers, Zhang antis and some misinformed newfags thrown in.

>Do you fucks have a vendetta against her or something?

Ignore all falseflagging faggots. They're not worth anyone's time.

Coco/Kson will never stream again

Coco please do a stream with Pomu

>>6498247
Cover didn't start as a talent agency in the first place, but even then the amount that coco needs depends on the scale of what she wants to do, something like vshojo where she just gets random people into a named group is basically free and actually viable but that doesn't sound like something she would hype up like the second coming of christ, trying to recreate what cover did is a shitton of work and money for one person

>>6498352
>My oshi is flawless
Everyone on this board gets shit thrown at them, why should Coco be exempt?

>>6498198
It would be both an honor and a dream come true.

>>6498255
I will now unload the week's worth of cum, that I've been saving up, right into your mouth.

>>6498286
Do you have any idea how many foreign vtubers have said Taiwan on Bilibili? None of them were censored in real-time. Stop believing retarded chinese propaganda.

>>6495235
>Also, from the looks of it from her latest stream she's just wants to help indies and smaller chuubas

Like Ironmouse and Domo? Hmm.

>>6493864
>become prime minister of japan
>break UN agreement and rally JDF west
>personally pilot an F-35 Lightning II hence "kson on air"
>commit atrocities worse than the rape of nanking

Crashing this industry. With no survivors.

>>6498578
Like Ars from Nijisanji or Hana who shown Pooh bear picture ? They are Nijisanji anon. They have Virtual Real branch in China and Bilibili . They are benefector and kneel to China but Hololive not.

You should focus how fast they censored word like Taiwan or Wuhan Virus word from Western media and I told you they are the best in the world in this matter.

>>6498456
>My oshi is flawless

Unironically this. Kson is too worshipped around here. Any mild criticism against her will have the entire board hounding you. The Zhang labeling won't win you the argument Kson fans. Your foot fetish posts won't deter the conversation. Just face the facts already. Kson has the best feet in hololive. And if you disagree with this statement then that means (You) are Zhang. Shut the fuck up Zhang.

>>6498529
wtf

>>6493950

In her last member only stream, Coco said she would not be joining another vtuber agency and if she decides to come back, it would be with Hololive only.

>>6498966
You're being schizo, anon.

>>6499629
come up with a better retort

>>6493864
Vtuber agency better than hololive, you can see quite a few artists/riggers alreay follow her.

>>6494433
bug

>>6493864
She is probably just preparing a new expensive vtuber model, original song, and all that kind of stuff.
You guys are overthinking this.

>>6494219
Coco wouldn't sign something like that to begin with not to mention you can go around it in multiple ways I'm sure since Vtuber business is so new and poorly defined.

>>6499204

>I wanna use my teeth to scrape off all the calluses under Kson's feet. Slurp on her very soft toes. And deepthroat her entire foot. I'm who I am Today because of this bitch. A Feet enjoyer, No no no, a Feet Chad.

>doomposting
Ah we are here. Listen if Delta was able to handle her own management duties for over 6 months as she made her comeback. To such a degree her new manager she just hired was impressed by how well she was doing by herself. I am pretty fucking sure Kson can handle this shit. If not she has the money to contract a manager herself.

By the way get used to doomposting for a while they'll stick around like flies until Kson blows them out.

>>6499204
>And if you disagree with this statement then that means (You) are Zhang. Shut the fuck up Zhang.

Holy shit I'm a Zhang now.

>>6500048
It was probably signed when she signed her contract. If a fucking waitress at a restaurant is forced to signs NDAs before they start I assure you Civer talents do as well.

>>6495219
She has access to a larger market and still fails to capture a respectable portion. The majority of subs are pity subs. Kiara is an active detriment to hololive.

>>6494596
It's not like Vshojo have no restrictions, there is always twitch bullshit and sponsors even if company doesn't try to impose anything they still have to kiss ass to those obnoxious anitubers and shit because their audience demands it.

The thing about Coco is that she was always creative and would know exactly what to do to stand out on the crowded chuuba market with projects more sophisticated than pure shock value or coomerbaits.

>>6494662
but she denied this one...

>>6493931
Probably not exactly this but yes, probably content related to make YouTube kson more than ark stream number 324 and to do an actual launch rather than the casual mildom stuff that doms your internet browser

>>6493864
buy a new house, get married like tamaki, and have kids

>>6493864
The more people talk like this the less it becomes true, so I hope she hurries up.

>>6494654
There's no way she would have interest in doing this. If she had built up contacts and partners and wanted someone else to do the non-talent stuff however it wouldn't be a massive surprise. But I don't buy it, not yet.

Kson's path towards going corporrat will be similar to VShojo - get to a certain scale and partner with people who deal with the tedious shit

>>6500219
Stop assuming everywhere on earth is beholden to the capitalist burger hellscape anon, none of that shit is legal in countries where workers aren't cucked on their rights

>>6500448
Very good point.

>>6494949
So an agency of some sort... I wouldn't expect her to copy nijisanji/holo model, "moral" questions about owning the characters aside she's just not in the same position as an individual, my bet is something more like upd8 but competent. Would be interesting if her agency actually did collabs with hololive

>>6493950
>join another company
>lose profit
oh boy you're super fucking intelligent

>>6500448
I'm eagerly waiting for the day one of the streamers leaves VShojo simply to see what will happen

>>6493864
sex

>>6493864
Yagoo resigns from Cover and becomes a babiniku chuuba for Coco's agency.

>>6494219
Cover has tons of retards with huge egos that seriously believe that their point of view is the only right way if it brings them quick cash, if it was up to them they would force more retarded shit, in fact I'm kinda worried they will try to tame down Marine like they have been trying to tone down Matsuri with the whole Luna incident.

>>6493864
Pan-Eurasian superstate groundwork by creating consciousness of Russian Horde a la Galkovsky's altenate timeline hidden history. Steppe-centered aristocracy, reinstitution of Qing empire as khaganate and GEACPS under the divine Emperor, Russian Tsardom restored based on the operations of Baron von Ungern-Sternberg. Plans for eventual union of the three imperial realms by blood, inaugurating the revival of the fifth and six human rootraces, raising of Atlantis and subsequent TAV.
>it's real
screencap this

>>6493864
It's this really, look at what she did
>Have tiny following on personal account
>Join cover and become a big vtuber
>Keep personal account active at the same time letting your fans follow both
>Stop vtubing and bring your dedicated fans with you
>Enjoy superchat and membership money without cover taking a cut

>>6493864
Make her own vtuber agency, no chinese or jewish investors allowed. Hire everyone in hololive. Kickstart another golden era of vtubers.

>>6493864
She wants to start her own JAV agency, hiring graduated Hololive members
So far she had Kanata record a softcore video of Marine and Noel.

She wants to walk into bathrooms say "big chest" and then leave again

>>6493886
Kson x Green Triangle collab would be kino

>>6497618
what they learned from the Kizuna Ai debacle is that you cant get a new person to play the same character
but they think they can just fire people and shelve the characters and hire a new person for a new character infinitely

>>6493864
>open patreon
>stream in her new avatar that look like a certain someone and it is in 3d
>then enter a certain silver hair girl that is also in 3d and look like s certain angel gorilla and they kiss on stream
>end the stream by saying you can see the rest and it is uncensored on her patreon
How much would she earns if she do this?

>>6494219
Yes Cover are borderline retarded at times, fully retarded at others

>>6493935
Ogey Zhang

Coco, big chest

>>6499675
Showing winnie the poop on stream isnt a crime against china you fucking retard

>>6493935
Eat shit Zang

I actually wish she could join Noripro
> One of the biggest agency after Hololive and Nijisanji
> Almost no restriction on what you do
> Would help them make an oversea audience
> Same work ethic as Norio

>>6511280
They never interacted again after the T incident.

>>6500407
>The majority of subs are pity subs.
>Kiara is an active detriment to hololive.
(You) need to take your meds.

>>6493899
She was what Noel, Kanata and Marine (if the rrats are credible)

>>6497618
>>6509093
Dunno why people keep pushing Kizuna Ai instead of Gamebu as the prime example for why replacement is a bad idea. The lesson from Ai's situation isn't about replacement but about explaining shit from the get-go or rrats will destroy everything.

>>6511368
Tamaki also has an original song with REDALICE for Muse Dash, that came out after the yab. She most definitely doesn't want to lose any ties to chinese money.

>>6511638
The nijis and the holos only care about shitting on Kizuna Ai

>doesn't want to return to another vtuber company that isn't Cover
definite
>still wants to help overseas relations in the vtuber community
probable
>wants to start a project that helps the vtuber community as a whole
definite
If I have to guess it is starting her own studio, but knowing her it's going to be completely unexpected yet vtuber related.

>>6511741
I mean, they could make the same choice as Hololive, leave China for the rest of the world. But I agree that it's a decision that would put them way out of their comfort zone.

To make a full comeback and cause chinks seethe until the inevitable Nuclear war. After which she's going to join the military, rise through the ranks, and personally behead Xi Jinping

I don't get why everyone is so adamant and deadset on her starting some rival company. In all likely hood she's just going to continue doing what she did before becoming coco, but with a little more technical know-how this time

>>6512030
>why everyone is so adamant and deadset on her starting some rival company
That was the rrat clipniggers are trying to push, while what she said is that she will improve her model and release more content and listed what she wanted to do (cooking, karaoke, southern english classes, cosplay)

>>6512006
Based if true.

>>6494219
>Do you seriously think Cover was dumb enough
Yes

>>6494219
>Do you seriously think Cover was dumb enough to not make her sign a noncompete contract?
As most other people have said, yes, but non-competes are ludicrously difficult to enforce and almost never legal even when you put them in the contract. People have a right to make money because they need to eat and you can't get them to sign it away. They're generally only enforceable if you agree to give them enough money that they don't need to work for the duration of the non-compete as severance.

>>6512006
Xi Jinping here. Can confirm.

>>6512030
Cause it would be way more drama inducing.

>>6495460
Cry more. The West bolsters Taiwanese independence more every day. Soon Japan will rewrite it's constitution to create a military and America will move Nuclear weapons into Taiwanese Strait.

>>6496277
>jp streams are all advertised by jp companies that dont give a single fuck
If you haven’t noticed, Japan and the US are different cultures. Remember the Giant Robo/Johnny Sokko GoLion/Voltron, or MazingerZ/TranzorZ adaptations and all the problems with them?

>>6497018
You will always be a nigger.

Bets on Holos who you can see leaving for Coco's new vtuber agency.

I want to say Ame by the way she has been acting lately, not turning superchats thus denying Cover money, and other recent comments.

A few weeks ago I would have also said Calli, but I don't know anymore, seems management has heard a lot of her complaints.

Kanata absolutely assuming her contract allows it.

Marine is a maybe by her comments too.

Shion? Who knows, seems she wants to go indi judging by her roomate's activity, but could also go with her if the deal is right.

>>6512939
Suisei, not only can she leave, but also take her character with her since she owns it

>>6512939
I like shitting on Cover and have good reasons for it, girls won't just leave Hololive to join Kson. They all have own goals and dreams and Cover, as shitty it is' is a way to realize those dreams.
I don't see anyone beside Haachama or Shion leaving Cover in near future, unless Cover went full 7'th trumpet.
And future Kson Vtuber circle is still uncertain and she's still too small.

>>6513022
i believe that she sold the rights to her character.

>>6512939
None of them you faggot
t. Tatsunoko

>>6512939
I like shiting on Cover and have good reasons for it, but the girls won't just leave Hololive to join Kson. They all have own goals and dreams and Cover, as shitty it is' is a way to realize those dreams.
I don't see anyone beside Haachama or Shion leaving Cover in the near future, unless Cover went full 7'th trumpet.
And the future Kson Vtuber circle is still uncertain and she's still too small.

>>6513407
>>6513617
Hmmmmmm

>>6513649
Saw fucked up grammar, Deleted post and send it again.

I think you guys underestimate how much time it takes to manage a company. I'm pretty sure she prefers spending time making plans for streams or videos instead of doing paperwork for hiring, making connections with artists and live2D riggers, maintaining a website, think about benefits, health insurance for the employees...etc

Sure she could hire people to work on most of these, but it's not her passion.
t. ex-employer

>>6513745
Didn't she originally apply for a management position though? Or was that a rrat?

>>6512614
Im not crying retard I have more respect for her if it was intentional