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>12/21 FINAL EN YTxTW DAILY TALLY14,485: FUWAMOCO (Hololive)14,082: Vedal (Indie)10,948: IronMouse (Vshojo)9,054 : Hakos Baelz (Hololive)7,884 : Koseki Bijou (Hololive)7,820 : Filian (Mythic Talent)6,654 : IRyS (Hololive)>EN YTxTW TINS FOR DECEMBER 20231) Selen Tatsuki (Nijisanji) - 11,895 - Birthday Concert2) Watson Amelia (Hololive) - 12,143 - Karaoke3) FUWAMOCO (Hololive) - 15,827 - Karaoke4) Selen Tatsuki (Nijisanji) - 21,694 - Apex Tournament (botted)5) FUWAMOCO (Hololive) - 21,293 - Fuwamoco Morning (botted)6) Koseki Bijou (Hololive) - 11,662 - The Exit 87) FUWAMOCO (Hololive) - 20,286 - Fuwamoco Morning (botted)8) Ironmouse (Vshojo) - 25,045 - VGA Watchalong9) FUWAMOCO (Hololive) - 22,983 - Fuwamoco Morning (botted)10)Ninomae Ina'nis (Hololive) - 39,746 - Birthday 3D Live11)Kotoka Torahime (Nijisanji) - 20,545 - Handcam cooking (w/ Yashiro)12)FUWAMOCO (Hololive) - 19,523 - Fuwamoco Morning (botted)13)FUWAMOCO (Hololive) - 23,159 - The Exit 8 (botted)14)FUWAMOCO (Hololive) - 16,240 - Fuwamoco Morning (botted)15)FUWAMOCO (Hololive) - 35,593 - Decorate FWMC Tree (botted)16)FUWAMOCO (Hololive) - 13,630 - Fuwamoco Morning (botted)17)Filian (Mythic Talent) - 38,417 - The VTuber Awards18)Koseki Bijou (Hololive) - 13,667 - Lethal Company19)Vox Akuma (Nijisanji) - 16,077 - Demon's Lair Gameshow (botted)20)Vox Akuma (Nijisanji) - 18,706 - NOPIXEL GTA RP (botted)21)FUWAMOCO (Hololive) - 14,485 - Fuwamoco Morning>PER GROUP14x: Hololive (8 botted)5x: Nijisanji (3 botted)1x: Vshojo, Mythic>PER STREAMER10x: FUWAMOCO2x: Selen, Bijou, Vox1x: IronMouse, Amelia, Ina, Kotoka, Filian >PER BOTTED9x: FUWAMOCO 2x: Selen, Vox1x: Mori, Bijou, Hakka, Shu, Millie, Reimu >POINTS PER STREAMER (tin = 5pts, rubber = 3pts, plastic = 1pt)56p:FUWAMOCO17p:IronMouse14p:Bijou12p:Bae 10p:Selen, Vox 8p: Fauna, Ina7p: Vedal6p: IRyS, Amelia5p: Kotoka, Mori, Filian4p: Henya, Vedal3p: Millie, OniGiri, Kiara1p: GEEGA, Snuffy, Ike
What's with all the Phase shilling? Is the thread actually being raided?
>>64986598>12/21 FINAL EN TWITCH DAILY TALLY14,082: Vedal (Indie)10,948: IronMouse (Vshojo)7,820 : Filian (Mythic Talent)>EN TWITCH GOLD FOR DECEMBER 20231) Ironmouse (Vshojo) - 9,801 - Lethal Company2) Henya The Genius (Vshojo) - 9,809 - VRCHAT3) Ironmouse (Vshojo) - 13,508 - Animation contest4) Henya The Genius (Vshojo) - 8,021 - Lethal Company5) Henya The Genius (Vshojo) - 10,099 - Lethal Company (/w Pomu, Elira, Millie)6) GEEGA (Vshojo) - 6,956 - Super Smash Bros Ultimate (/w Haruka, Zentreya, Henya)7) Filian (Mythic Talent) - 6,315 - Crused Trivia (w/Vienna)8) Ironmouse (Vshojo) - 25,045 - VGA Watchalong9) Henya The Genius (Vshojo) - 8,334 - The Day Before (/w Kson)10)Ironmouse (Vshojo) - 23,661 - New Model Debut11)Nihmune (Indie) - 7,268 - Birthday 48h subathon12)Vedal (Indie) - 10,459 - Just Chatting13)Ironmouse (Vshojo) - 11,745 - Lethal Company14)Ironmouse (Vshojo) - 10,867 - Ready or Not15)Snuffy (Indie) - 14,298 - House Flipper 216)OniGiri (Indie) - 12,151 - Winter Outfit Debut17)Filian (Mythic Talent) - 38,417 - Vtuber Awards18)Ironmouse (Vshojo) - 13,358 - Lethal Company19)Ironmouse (Vshojo) - 12,886 - Christmas Shopping20)Vedal (Indie) - 16,184 - Minecraft21)Vedal (Indie) - 14,082 - Ban appeals>PER GROUP13x: Vshojo6x: Indie2x: Mythic Talent>PER STREAMER8x: IronMouse 4x: Henya3x: Vedal2x: Filian1x: GEEGA, Nihmune, Snuffy, OniGiri>POINTS PER STREAMER (Gold = 5pts, Silver = 3pts, Bronze = 1pt)49p:IronMouse34p:Henya17p:Vedal 15p:Filian11p:Zentreya, Vedal9p:GEEGA7p: Snuffy, OniGiri6p: Nihmune, Snuffy4p: Shoto, Vei3p: Kson1p: Anny, Trickywi, OniGiri, Matara, Melody
https://x.com/shiorinovella/status/1737884696770470352https://x.com/shiorinovella/status/1737884696770470352https://x.com/shiorinovella/status/1737884696770470352
>>64986611Not a shill but the new gen buff has caused them mog a good chunk of nijiEN
Ririkatomo status?
>>64986665Sounds like stealth shilling to me
>>64986611the thread is always getting raided because its part of its freedom to be tribalfags, only twitchfags are the outsiders really
>>64986611Same thing happened with Idol when they were doing well. Doubly so this time because several of them are doing better then many NijiEN members at the moment with the debut buff, so it makes great bait
>>64986674Waiting for my asmr to get back my mojo.
>>64986611Paid shills.
Am I the only one find it kinda neat that yesterday Flare moved up to 21:00 (her usual slot is 22:00 or 23:00) to slot in for Pekora?Like I saw her putting the frame up at 21:00 and immediately know Pekora would take a day off. Sankisei schedules are pretty easy to read
>>64986687Numbers are numbers, if they are high /#/ will talk about them
>>64986674Looking for new earphones
why are you guys using the same image
>>64986611They are trying to get accepted in the cool guys club
>>64986803I personally prefer BA OP images desu
>>64986644Buy an ad
>>64986768lol, lmao
>>64986850DEMISEETHE
when is oboretai going to make VCR GTA clips?
Reading the TT discussion last thread made me found something interesting that idk if it was posted anywhere before -The Anime Man had an interview with an ex-idol last year and the whole video was basically "Le Idol Culture bad". Now the interesting thing is that when this girl was asked about any rare success stories, she named drop her "senpai Takanashi Kiara" and they even had Kiara's model pop-up in the video. Now that portion has been edited out. If you don't believe me, check out the comment section and there are several top comments about Kiara and the whole comment thread is a doxfest including talking about that video to further show how bad idol culture is in Japan.Cover must have contacted him to edit it out because I remember there were no comments sperging about 'doxxing' and there was no drama there or surprisingly even /here/. I don't know if he himself addressed about it or now.This is the video:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RRBV41izmUI
>>64986611Paid Discord. They are pushing this "incline" narrative to hide from the fact that they're botting streams.
>>64986909He is already doing that on the channels of other people
Who agrees with this?>>64986843
>>64986945Show the timestamp for the supposedly edited cut
>>64986611I was paid
>>64986945to be fair, Kiara is both an example of how toxic and abusive classic idol career model can be, and how much of a relative improvement the virtual, part-time idol streamer version can work in terms of both direct fan interaction and performance reach
>>64987096Them once being holo lite is the least of their problems.
>>64986611They just debuted a new gen that's getting lots of numbers so people are excited for them.They actually have some good hires too. I think Runie is holo tier talent
>>64987127BUY AN AD
>>64987138>getting lots of numbersOh yeah? Like what
>>64986674Cucked to hell and back now. Imagine your oshi adding Aururan and Miyabi to their thumbnails unironically now. Like not even a high CCV male to actually you know get out their and get more fans but unironically the most bottom dumpster of the holostars. That said I fell for her too but I jumped out as soon as she said she was as doing this shit. Should have seen the signs when she was greeting homos in pre debut
>>64987200You don't understand, small corpo usually gets 100 viewers, maybe 200 viewers if they're lucky. These are getting 4view streams it's a pretty big deal.
>>64987096I kinda agree. They literally catfished a lot of early fans, should've debuted males early.
>>64987138KYS SHILL
>>64987165I AM THE AD
>>64987138I've been enjoying both Runie and Hina. They're both pretty good streamers so I'm interested to see if they're able to grow.
>>64987278Fuck off phasekek >>64917211
>>64987270Anon I'm serious with what I say. Ok you love holo, we all get that. But since you haven't seen the others you are no place to judge.
>>64986945>Korean x Russian chick>real idolI mean, come on
>>64986945https://youtu.be/RRBV41izmUI?t=937Oh kek they did cut it out, you can see the jump cutUnderstandable, Cover takes direct "identity = rm" statements pretty seriously.
>>64987138Another shill
>>64987246Imma give you info that will explain most of it. YouTube made changes on how they read ccv like last month. They stopped culling viewers, same reason why HoloEn is now getting easy 8-10k streams again when they were in the dumpster. Yeah sure they inclined (new Gen btw) but it’s not as big as you think, especially since lots of Phase fans were Holofags before
>>64987096They would be dead on arrival if they got a mixed wave as their EN branch debut. Weren't their extincted pajeet branch a mixed wave too?
>>64986611Why does this thread think that:1. It's a shill2. It's a raidLike how new are you retards? This thread literally watches girls pissing to a few hundred viewers, has a pretty wide range of anons who know of 2view and 3view indies, talks extensively about the state of vtubing and PHASE is what bothers you?My guy, my RETARD, this fucking THREAD accurately predicted all 4 Advent members days before they even debuted. And guess what? 3 of them were fucking 2views and the other was a has-beenSo why the FUCK is it suddenly an issue that people want to talk about how a small corpo is literally competing with fucking nijiEN now? Are you some insecure pomufag or something? Are you upset that people are doing to you what you did to holo fans by spamming 6 months of "wow look at nijiEN they're competing with holoEN now!"
>>64987311>phase fan uses pcgbuddy i think you might be a geniusg2tph
>>64987296I like Runie more than Hina. I like Hina because I like soft spoken women in general and often put on Fauna's streams in the backround. But Runie has some real charisma and her voice is wonderful.
>>64987138>Look at this retard still trying
>>64986945Oh yeah I saw that and thought it's weird that people were talking about Kiara, though it was just something a commentor brought up and people latched on.
>>64987246They would be a big deal if idol didn’t have several of their girls hit 4 digits post debut during their debut buff, or if Pippa wasn’t about to become the highest ranked non Holo girl in the kaigai monthly tables (likely, maybe). Funnily enough, based on the new vtubers added by vstats, it’s not unlikely that even some Brazilians will join DaCapo and the rest of Algorythm project in outranking Phase so, it’s a “good for them, but not good enough” situation.
>>64987371Kys Phase Discord nigger
WE GOT A FUCKING SMALL CORPO SHILL INFESTATION IN THIS THREAD
>>64987210You don't even need to keep up with them. She said on debut she was going to collab with streamers. At least you got out early kek
Brave Groups spanish cat (she sounds like she has a slight french accent when speaking english)
>>64987371Nobody thinks phase is competing with holo. Half of the phase girls are fans of Holo themselves. It is funny to watch them competing with NijiEn though. It feels like a close horserace.
what were some of the funniest posts in this general in recent months? I liked>but I digest.
>>64987108I don't remember the timestamp bcoz I watched it a year ago but there are top comments that prove she was mentioned pre-edit
>>64987096>>64987255True. Nobody goes “oh no no no” when twitch vtubers collab with males because that’s always been the culture there.
>>64987371This is a holothread, not your literal who shill thread
>>64986945I mean i don't give a shit about flesh idols but dosent this just prove that Hololive is very different from idol industry in japan, and people shouldn't use a completely unrelated thing to say that hololive is a black company.
>>64986945The entire conversation around "idol culture" has been polluted by western media and it's bias towards negativity and "weirdness".People enjoying performers, going to watch them sing, shit like that is all "normal" and doesn't get eyeballs.Underground idols are no different from underground bands in the west, they sometimes languish in the darkness, and sometimes get picked by abusive recording companies (it's always funny when they highlight "muh black idol companies", because literally every single western recording company is blacker than most big idol companies and Japanese labels).And so the "dark size of idol culture" always gets highlighted in western media, which is what has given westeners a severe aversion to the term... despite them just being the equivalent of performers, singers and celebrities in the west.
>>64987367I don't see these changes affecting other small corpos though. Prism is still in 100 view land. Ex-tsunderia indies still have their usual numbers.
>>64987371>Why does this thread think that:>1. It's a shill>2. It's a raidPrevious experience with EiEn, AkioAir, IdolRN, V4Mirai (on the kaigai side)
>>64987096NijiJP started with a mixed wave.EN never had one until the 6th wave.Still not a single "weird" design either.NijiEN identity issues are because they tried to be too many things at once but never stuck to what they are best at. All Japanese companies seem to have this issue in some level though.
>>64986725I doubt they're paid.
>>64987210At this point she's being even more obnoxious about it than Kronii was with her homos.
>>64986272It either speaks a lot to the absolute lack of talented males that want to become VTubers...Or Cover's male talent scouting department just being filled with retards.I think the latter is the main problem.Being a "Hololive fan" has too much of a priority to the recruiters of males, when that should actually be treated as the huge red flag that it is.
>>64987096I don't think that matters now. Female only start, mixed start, nothing would really change if they would still end up hiring garbage human beings like Luca, Enna or Kyo.
>>64987210How many ASMR streams to win back her audience is she on now?
>>64986611shit phase. shit on holos. simple as
>>64987135when you include context of how the culture of hololive especially but vtubers in general is to keep their rm detached from the chuuba, which allows fan and chuuba to get the best of both worlds in what they're doing so the idol stuff should be safe from that.I think only Matsuri has fucked up properly with JP fans in allowing her rm to be too well known as a holo
>>64987096I can't believe there's still retards over there that haven't bailed yet roru
>>64987096I don't know if NijiEN would have ever got the initial burst of numbers to pave the way for Luxiem without Lazusydia being Holo-lite.If NijiEN were 2view and 3view shitters from the very start (because they put out a bunch of dudes at the same time as Lazusydia, and thus never got any holofag attention), would they have gone the way of NijiIN, nijiID, etc. etc. and languished in obscurity?You could make the argument that it all only worked because the male integration stuff rug-pulled the ex-holo fans once they were already too invested in talents like Pomu to actually leave
>>64986945TT has spent many hours going over how shit and dark idol culture is and how everyone gets exploited by their agencies.And then their corpo-sponsored asses shift to promote their next panel and fan meeting event tours.
>>64987645>I think only Matsuri has fucked up properly with JP fans in allowing her rm to be too well known as a holoYou dont think AZKi's rm is more well known?
>>64987431I think some anons /here/ have some sunk cost sort of thing going with Ririka, she was pushed by a few people as the best ReGloss, had a bit of a saviorfag thing with the sub culls and early low CCV, and had finally been inclining off her lunch streams. And then threw it away.
>>64986611I think it's interesting to keep an eye on Phase to see if they start to incline by moving away from Pippa and towards a more Holoesque style of content.
>>64987096For whatever reason, every single retarded 20 iq niji fan neglects to mention that 85% of nijiEN's fanbase post-boom were fucking SEA + Mainland China viewers during COVID, a period where they were all under lockdown.NijiEN post-luxiem were lucky, LUCKY to have ever gotten as big as they did, and that explosion of viewers is what led random strays to join the fandom. It was -never- about debuting males or females from the start. They got lucky just like Genshin got lucky for releasing during peak COVID where people got stimulus checks and dumped loads into the game and couldn't get themselves out.
>>64986611People are just in denial that they are getting more popular and people are actually starting to watch them. No amount of screaming that it's bots or shills is going to have any effect on that.
>>64987715Is Pippa the only chick there that has been overtly stirring shit in regards to hololive?
>>64987675NTA but yes, Shittaste are usually pretty big hypocrites.
>>64987645>I think only Matsuri has fucked up properly with JP fans in allowing her rm to be too well known as a holoShe’s not the only well known and a certain former OL is even more known. Matsuri is the only that is known AND is a fuckup but even the two Holo departures of 2021 and 2022 were sufficiently known to have immediately picked attention on their RM as soon as things started going south
>>64987701well as like using her personal social media as a character onlineI don't even know exactly what you're talking about, music?
>>64987135Funny the doggos seem to had a more positive experience in Japan.
>>64987580I’m paid in (you)s
>>64987096>>64987565it made some sense from a business perspective, there was underserved demand for that in the EN sphere.
>>64987210go back.
[Good News] Shiori is extremely horny
>>64987096What's the fucking appeal of cross-gender shit, jesus, just have a male branch and have a female branch and keep them separate.Do women really want to see Vox interact with Elira and Pomu? Because I guarantee Pomu fans never wanted to see her interact with Vox. Tolerate, maybe, some of them, but WANT? Fucking why? It literally seems like both sides would have been happier separated so what's with this autistic obsession with mixing oil and water
>>64987645> I think only Matsuri has fucked up properly with JP fans in allowing her rm to be too well known as a holoNoel? Azki?
>>64987836https://twitter.com/jakada_ani/status/1736495330634395753Why didn't she like this yet
>>64987856how has it been a fuck up?
>>64987774DON'T YOU FUCKING USE MUMEI YOU FILTHY WHORE
>>64987096They wouldn't be saying this if Luxiem and the other males were doing okay, instead of falling so hard to the point they can't even qualify for the cripple without buffs anymore.Funny how the "mistake," as in LazuDia and maybe Ethyria if only because it's an all-female wave, are now what's keeping the branch afloat, with Elira and Pomu leading the pack.
>>64987096Would have been completely dead from the start unless somehow China latched onto it from day one. I think if that had happened the branch would be even more fucked because they would have tripled down on China pandering and been up shit creek when it dried up, at least now they have the Holo-lite girls to fall back on.
I miss her
>>64986598Why are you not using an image like the rest of the tallies?
>>64987870>42k likesThe fuck?
>>64987502it's more of a general problem and mindset difference, West has a decent few examples of youths having the stardom beaten into them (Jackson, Spears, various Disney starlets), but Koreans, Chinks and Nips added the typical asian flavor of industrialized dehumanization, making the "celebrity production" process almost mechanically efficient but leaving tons of young men and women ground by the cogsas mentioned, Kiara took a shot at that career pretty early in her life (she was like... 14? 15?), but by industry standard she was already too old and went through typical gamut of exhausting physical routine (she still suffers from aftereffects), para-sexual exploitation (gravure, the wrestling shit) and intra-group competition that broke her careerall of those were pretty typical aspects of early/mid-2000s idol culture and it was and is something worth criticizing, especially when more relaxed and talent-first alternatives start succeeding in the scene (like Hololive)
>>64987870She just did
>>64987375I have too many vtubers to actively watch anyone new, but I think Runie is a breath of fresh air for the small corpo scene. Too many ESL Asian girls or girls doing squeaky character voices in that scene. It's nice to have someone with a pleasant normal voice who can enunciate clearly.
>>64987796Sure, but the question should've been whether YOU were the right company to sell it.It's not like you couldn't do full girl waves in the next one, I mean their entire company debut structure is designed for rapid deviations of culture through ACCELERATE.Start off with a 2 girl 1 male gen (remove either Finana or Petra), see the reaction.Debut more girls if the first one doesn't fly as well as expected.If there's no issue with the guy, debut more males.Their audience wouldn't be as bad it is now if they had kept to the FUNDAMENTALs of their company culture.It's like debuting Ethyria as HoloEN's first gen... can you imagine just how different the EN branch would be with those 4 at the head?
>>64987988Didnt even have to check
>>64987877I was talking about the latter half
>>64987375careful with the Runie praise, she's a deadbeat
>>64987951It has almost 30k bookmarksPeople are truly horny
>>64987502Pretty much. I wonder if any of them remembers the original marketing for Britney Spears, the "eternal virgin".
>>64987668They aren't even "ex-Holo" fans. There's no law that says you can't watch both, despite what this thread will tell you. Something like 45% of Pomu's audience watches Hololive as well. Even for the post Ethyria girls it's at least 20%.
>>64987870I mean she definitely saw it
>>64988127copechama...Denying reality it's not good for you.
>>64987757Other than that stupid Kiara crack ages ago, no.
>>64988197>the fauna vesper commentlol no, keep your plappa away from holo
>>64988075Yeah but my point was that only she's fucked up from the safety of possible negatives of idol shit reaching the rm part.Only Noels tits are famous
>>64987836Uh isn't that a Niji girl in the bottom right?
>>64986945don't worry, he already apologized to everyone personallyt. mori
>>64988197Why are phasekeks such terrible liars
>>64988245It's unironically okay if it's a sexo image.>>64988277They crave to be noticed by their holo senpai, and not even that, even their fans crave the attention of the holofags.
>>64988245She has big boobs so it is okay
>>64987744I mean, the subscriber count is really, really fucking sus. They're just barely past Kawaii's new gen in sub count and those debuts only had like 300-400 people and streams nowadays are high 2view / low 3view. The Phase girls should have at minimum 20-25k subs right now, especially the ones that have very well-known PLs/roommates.
>>64988245She's a Holo-lite so she's okay.
>>64988394>Elira>Holo-litelol no, she's a clique founder, she just has big boobs, so it's okay
>>64988362You're just used to Holo/Niji numbers. These guys will level off to 300-500 streamers soon enough, and then start building their fanbases. The new Idol girls also kept decently high numbers for a while, Roca can still get close to 1k with karaokes, but they leveled off too.
>>64987960Anon, song rights, monetary share to talents, permissions for Cover etc. is completely fucked up in the western music label scene.The eastern idol industry could at least be told to be improving - the Korean one due to western criticism (as they are the primary consumers) and the Japanese ones due to internal criticism.Japanese shit doesn't change that much from overseas criticism. The home market is still the priority for their idol companies.But in the west, none of the aforementioned shit has changed. Because unlike the eastern industries, all the abuse and fuckery that western labels do is never given serious airtime in reporting. Americans are obsessed will all sorts of retarded social issues, but the music industry's toxic nature has completely disappeared from the western cultural zeitgeist just from media companies not running those stories.The point I'm making is that westerners amplify ONLY the negative aspects of idol culture. It's not the 2000's anymore after all, there's been a lot of labor reforms and govt oversight that at least legally prevents a lot of shit that happens in the idol industry.And yet the culture of these talents bringing joy and happiness to millions of people is never highlighted. While in the west, celebrities and musicians (who all toe the line) are all pushed to the forefront of the audience.A lot of negativity that Hololive gets in the casual western audience that prevents them from growing a bigger audience is because of this negative stereotype.It sticks to Hololive despite them being the whitest of companies, and retards still perpetuate that shit without even understanding it, which is extremely damaging to HoloEN's prospects.
I have free time who should i watch?
>>64987565>NijiJP started with a mixed wave.>EN never had one until the 6th wave.>Still not a single "weird" design either.>NijiEN identity issuesAnon, you are partially correct in your assessment, but you are completely blind to the fact this is not a >NijiENproblem, but a >Nijisanjiproblem.You mention "EN never had one until the 6th wave.". Between Elira debut and TTT debuts NIjisanji had EXACTLY ONE mixed wave>Edengumiwith a single girl (Lain) debuting in a mixed wave.That's it. For all of NIjiEN history up until TTT NIjisanji themselves only had a single girl in a mixed wave. More than that, you have to go back ALL THE WAY BACK TO FEBRUARY 2020 to see another mixed wave>Meifu, Feb 2020 wave with Ibrahim, Furem and MelissaMore than that: you also mention "weird design". For that you have to go even further back to see any NIjisanji design that would qualify for "weird design" would be Gwelu, all the way back in November 2019.After that ALL of their designs except Naraka and Melissa were your basic bitch "high school club" stereotypes.The Nijisanji you knew in pre 2020 ceased to exist long ago. Everything after that was the exact same, be it for the main branch or NIjiEN.The identity issues you mention are not about "NijiEN", but about NIjisanji themselves.Wake the fuck up, you are locked into the memory of a NIjisanji that no longer exists for four years now
>>64987774Now this is a new one
>>64986611anon this thread is raided by plapkeks every single day
Mods are allowing Holo RM threads now it seems
V4Mirai x HimeHinawtfhttps://twitter.com/bravegroup_vt/status/1737670628801663024
>>64988127Yeah I can buy that I suppose. I can't empathize with it, because I find it's a lot easier to just find your oshi and follow their "extended universe", but I can buy that a lot of Pomu viewers are at least somewhat Holo fans. Probably not consistent daily Holo streamwatchers for the most part (because literally how could you be) but occasional streams, event box, clips, sure.
>>64988127I barely have the time to watch holos other than my oshi, let alone other corpos. Multi corpo fags strike me as jobless NEETs.
/#/, why is kotoka so cute but yet have bad numbers?
>>64987917I miss her massive ass.
>>64988693also clipfags
Vertical streams are so fucking gross man.
>>64988727she is a cumrag
>>64988543>And yet the culture of these talents bringing joy and happiness to millions of people is never highlightedThey do get highlighted. They get highlighted as preying on the insecurities of lonely men.
>>64988197>forgetting that Plappa also spread the Ollie fingering theory
>>64988727NijiENorgans don't get good numbers, especially the girls.
>>64988630Damn, this kinda explains the absolute mindbreak that Nijisanji fans of the 2018-19 era must've been experiencing...Not only did Hololive surpass their company, they also slowly started losing everything that made them special in the first place.
>>64988127>>64988695There's definitely a fair few Holo fans, that also will watch Pomu, Elira, Rosemi and Selen. Not so sure about later members though.It's not that high though, when the ~35k Advent LC collab ended Pomu gained a ~1-1.5k funnel.You don't see the bleed when they overlap that you would if the percentages were that high though
>>64986569Oh is this the anti-phase thread? Nice
>>64988821first I'm hearing of it, got a pic or smth?
>>64988727She just needs to have handcam offcollab with JP nijimale to get good numbers
>>64988655No, that’s just mods not caring about Gura as usual.
Soon!
>>64988859I used to watch Pomu, because I'm KFP, but I got jumpscared by niijihomos so many times that I stopped entirely
>>64988777you're not lonely sis?
>>64988931SEX
>>64988894I guess so? The arguing will die down ina few hours as the autists run out of steam.
>>64988945no he's right, that's how "supporting idols" is framed every single time it gets discussed in western media
* FINAL TALLY OF THE DAY IS IN *Here it goes>52,219: Kuzuha (Nijisanji)>50,454: Korone (Hololive)>29,613: Watame (Hololive)>19,952: Kanae (Nijisanji)>18,970: Marine (Hololive)>18,335: Aki (Hololive)>14,539: Lauren (Nijisanji)>14,485: Fuwamoco (Hololive)>14,229: AZKi (Hololive)>13,299: Fuwa (Nijisanji)>12,960: Hajime (Hololive)>12,793: Flare (Hololive)>12,623: Lize (Nijisanji)>12,022: Subaru (Hololive)>11,842: Koyori (Hololive)>11,529: Furen (Nijisanji)>10,294: Lui (Hololive)>10,201: Lauren (Nijisanji)Gold for Kuzuha VCR GTA, with Korone werewolf getting silver and Watame game of life, bronze
>>64987371Mental Gymnastic is calling you, your membership is due.
>>64988655Try to post old IM tweets and see how fast they get deleted, even though they are literal IM tweets.
>>64988931Holy sex
>>64988655if senzawa wasn’t a complete whore you wouldn’t care
>>64988931This artist drawing a Mumei version of this a long time ago is amusing to me.
Since Phasechads are here, fast paced summary on this?https://files.catbox.moe/s4t2dn.webm
>>64989051But enough about Ironlung.
>>64988984
>>64988530that's the thing, Roca had 25k subs a few days after her debut, which is where you'd expect her to be.
>>64989081Yeah I can help, that is the girl that hates JK Rowling because Rowling is a terf
>>64988834>they also slowly started losing everything that made them special in the first place.Look at the debut list at >>64988630 again, if becomes clear how things got to the point they got.You more or less can split NIji history in pre-Selejo and post-Selejo.Pre Selejo is the >anyone can be a vtuberera of NIjisanji giving anyone their app, a janky 1.0 model, poking them with a stick and saying>DO SOMETHING!After Selejo, and SPECIALLY after VTA, Nijisanji is unironically and self admittedly a>ENTERTAINMENT FACTORYwith indistinctive livers being churned from a literal training academy pre vetted and pre molded into an increasingly main channel controlled editorial line.
>>64988984grim
>>64988894They keep trying to shill here and it will be
>>64988984Where is Ririka? Shouldn’t she be inclining like Aki?
>>64989051I’m not a Chumbud, dumbass.
>>64988984KANAETOMOS WILL DEFEND THIS! There is a reason Princes are not even third in the line of royalty!
>buff stream>500 ccvwasnt this one of the promising talent on idol or is this a case of beloved by 4chan and unpopular
marine needs 50k more subs. can she do it?
>>64989202then don’t reply to me retard
i found out that the faggot who keeps making victoria "hololite" posts is ernoul
>>64989210why Kingfags why?
>>64988984Haachama has been collabing a lot lately
>>64988630Uhhh Sanbaka debuted before all of those and they're some of the most popular members? I don't think this has anything to do with Niji as a whole trying to copy hololive. They release mixed and non-mixed waves at roughly the same rate. The problem is that NijiEN stayed without any males for too long and fooled the holofans into thinking it was never gonna happen.
>>64989254Not in 2023, not without doing like Hikakin when he was about to hit 10M and doing a collab tour, challenges, endurances and exclaiming>I WANT TO HIT THE MILESTONEbut I doubt Marine cares that much about doing it in 2023 instead of Jan 2024
>>64988984>18,970: Marine (Hololive)WTF
>>64988984>Combined hololive collab>Lost to some tokyo ghoul looking mf
>>64989327CHU~
>>64988984Very natty botted graph as usual ssg Trash-ha
>>64989342did the amount of male collabs by so many different girls tip the scale too much?
>>64989327
>>64988113Yes, and what is the perception of it NOW, anon?
>>64988655Vtubers are on topic as long as it's not in the Hololive thread. It's the same reason one of the graduated fags are allowed here while the other isn't.
>>64988668Brave Group picked up HimeHina a while back
>>64989327Chu
is this buff content?https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=noaHDEe7xS4
>>64989326Overlapped by the 50k big collab stream on Korone's channel
>>64989326It was a sponsored stream but yeah still low for her. Guess no one wants to marry her Kek
>>64989401AIEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
>>64989342Totally legit.
>>64989401Nope It is basically a variant of a zatsu stream
>>64989327I already dropped you, unsubbed, un membered just fucking graduated already
>>64988984Kanaekeks status?
>>64989448Yeah eceleb leeching peaks.
>>64989401not at all
>>6498944850k is shit either way for a stream with those members. Korone and Botan are fuck ups this year
>>64989387You say that but watch what happens if you actually try making a thread on, say Sachiowo or any of the other girls.
>>64989342You can hide under whatever identity you want retard-kun, but remember that you glow.
>>64988543>The eastern idol industry could at least be told to be improvingYeah, told toWhether they actually do it is another story
>>64989448If it's not legit why did he win the tally?
>>64989390Brave Group is really going the "avoiding saturation" by just owning a whole lot of shit that you dont know that they own
>>64988984Sanya's lewds are better then Korone's
>>64989319>Uhhh Sanbaka debuted before all of those and they're some of the most popular members?Anon, the point the other initial was making was>NijiEN didn't follow the Nijisanji "mixed waves" and "weird designs" and that's why people expected something different from Nijisanji (the main branch)my point is that>The main branch did not release any mixed wave (other than one girl in Edengumi) and did not release any weird design for all of NijiEN existenceYou mention>I don't think this has anything to do with Niji as a whole trying to copy hololivebut that Hololive was not even mentioned at all in the post you are replying to so where the fuck did that come from?>The problem is that NijiEN stayed without any males for too long and fooled the holofans into thinking it was never gonna happen.That's something completely else, also not mentioned given that the original anon was talking about mixed waves.I disagree with this too, Nijisanji trademark is "male vtubers", there is very little way people didn't expect them to debut in NijiEN, but that's beyond the point.Anon was mentioning that NijiEN is a radical departure of the NIjisanji model and I put forward some info on how ** Nijisanji themselves *** departed from the pre Selejo Nijisanji model a whole lot before NijiEN even existed.
>>64989497Yeah, just need to ignore how the other leeching peak got flagged by the filter.
I’m more happy watching Phase for the past 1 month than I had been watching Holoslop for the past 2 yrs. You guys should move on too, these bitches don’t care nor do they stream
>>64989401I think yes. Should be a decent bit buffed.People will tune in to see what Kiara thinks of their oshi's game tastes and what game she'll buy them.
>>64989494Winning together with king
lol.
>>64989611
>>64989562Fuck off doxxfag
>>64989566Injections patterns of bots every fucking hour lmao
>>64989401probably a slight buff. she'll probably hit the tally but i don't see it getting more than 6k
>>64989655First army
>>64989611kek, too in the nose anon. It's a laudable attempt too>throwing some hatred towards the Holo girls>poisoning the well for PhaseThe problem is that you use "Holoslop" too much, so it is pretty much a signature for your retardation
>>64988977Not related, but that's how female Twitch streamers are treated as well, no?
Did this even helped Ririka any? Like is her subs better from doing this or is it just the same either way?
>>64989655>Staticticsproof reading is for fags
>>64989655and anons say bot-kun has not effect
/#/ is a cunny general.
>>64989579I swear going by their black reputation you would never have guessed that VSPO which has pretty good talent satisfaction was also under BRAVE. And the way they do this is just hand everything for the manager (une1-san) and barely brings up the connection to Brave in VSPO's promotional material. That's it, different cloth down to the branches, only shared thing is the bigger budget.
>>64989143Wonder how many people picrel mindbroke
>>64989709she gained slightly more subs. I think she really wants to hit 250k by year end so she went for it. She is on track to hit it now.
>>64989486
>>64989709No it's actively hurt her, and she's gained absolutely zero connections with anyone of relevance
>>64989709She's gaining some subs but losing viewership on her non VCR content while the GTA streams are struggling to go above 3k viewers.
>>64989745I mean they just recently bought VSPO and there are probably contractual protections from Brave fucking up VSPO too much
>>64989741SUMICHADS WON
>>64989655This is FWMC in another universe when they were HoloJP
>>64989448He missed the bot injection timing of the Nipplemen stream as well.>Kuzuha 21:49>Kanae 21:48>Nippleman 22:16Then tried to fix it and pray that nobody notices it
>>64989401Wait, didn's she say that she couldn't steam sales stream? Or am I misremembering something?
>>64989342Hololive is throwing away their advantage on their own
I LOOOVE MY MISTRESS AME :3
>>64989709If you’re asking about vertical streams, yes, they helped her, specifically the first two, she is still only 2K above ao though
>>64989401Eh, not really, but I also don't think it's debuff content. I guess I could see some people coming in to see what Kiara would get for their oshi, but I don't really see that being a major buff, maybe an extra 1k viewers on top of the 3k-5k viewers Kiara normally gets.
>>64989655I like Mio the most these days
>>64989709She pulled ahead of Ao, but she also did a bunch of shorts streams. She was one of the first to get on it, and it gave her a big boost (the first stream alone gave her 3-4k).So you can't really say if the GTA stuff has helped or hurt her in terms of subs yet
>>64989815That was a few days ago when she didn't have perms for it yet, but just yesterday she mentioned getting perms for the stream in a tweet.
>suddenly roommate posting is bad but when everyone was posting Matuli's roommate left and right a weeknago noone bat an eyeImagine if a world where /vt/ is consistent
>>64989826Where are her boobs?
>>64989841watching Mio*
>>64989741Proudly
>>64989884I think people just hate matuli.
>>64989709VCR ends in less than 20 hours so I guess we’ll start to see the state of her fanbase going forward.
>>64989655>Include all the botted as fuck streams>Dont include chuubas with less than 5 streams
>>64989733If this is how it's going to be then everyone should just bot their oshi
I see a gigantic amount of phase shillings, bit I'm yet to see any graphs, subs gained per period, someone comparing them with NijiEN, HoloEN, or literawhoCorp with data to even have meaningful discussion here. Discussing low numbers CAN be entertaining in one way or another as shown by the raspberry tally, but there's nothing of that sort in this thread. What's the purpose of /#/ again?
>>64988984The only girl in his gang is Karubi so here I guess
>phasecucks >doxxfags>twitchshittersnice thread
>>64989904its complete indifference
>>64989709>Did this even helped Ririka any? Like is her subs better from doing this or is it just the same either way?She's picking 1k subs per day for most of the last 30 days period, with two exceptions1) one burst of 6k subs in the 16th and 17th>which I guess came from the vertical stream2) 0 ticks so far in the past two days, first time (it seems)
>>64989884I don't remember her RM being posted
>>64989820this eceleb shit is incredibly stupid and worse, it makes them look ungrateful to their actual fans
>>64989884RM posting of any kind here is bad, take that shit to /hlg/.
>>64989709Lmao, she latched on to the absolute shitters instead of the high profile ecelebs
>>64989936>What's the purpose of /#/ again?This is the Fauna and friends thread
>>64989904I see no complains when other JP girls are also roommate posted either, did I mention consistency, it's a really important part of my post
>>64989938welcome to yuro hours
>>64990030Aruran collabs are in her future instead of playing with the likes of Shaka like she wanted
>>64989969>Nijifag-“based she is doing co Ed collabs now, SUB”>*proceeds to not watch her like 98% of their livers*I get why they do it but why at the cost of their current fans?
>>64990071she will do a collab with kotoka in some months
Pippa and Hololive finally in the same place, thanks Ollie...https://twitter.com/obakepam/status/1737903014029959510https://twitter.com/obakepam/status/1737903014029959510https://twitter.com/obakepam/status/1737903014029959510
>>64989892
>>64990004Obviously I knew as an individual fan I don't matter at all but this year was the only time I really actually felt it
>>64989706All female streamers/content creators are treated like that, twitch especially has cultivated a rabid incel audiance that hates all women.
>>64990071Did you hear her saying this? Why can't it just be to meet some new people and have easy content for 2 weeks?
>>64987885this literally have been said even before luxiem debuted, retard. >>64988630>>64989143Entertainment factory is something they say for 5 years imbecile. Much like some of the best vtubers they have came from VTA like Rikashi, Nozomi, Hibari, Yotsuha and Toru.Lastly, Nijisanji always alternated between mixed, female only and male only. The point people make about beginning with mixed in EN is because JP, KR and ID ALL began with mixed, only en didnt.
>>64990109Ollie is anti Hololive so it’s a given
>>64990142yeah, it's like they're saying "wow, who cares about hololive viewers when we could get SO MANY VIEWS FROM ECELEB FANS"
>>64989292Don't care do whatever you want Find the botfag that will be more interesting.
>>64990109Ollie is a cumrag so thats to be expected
>>64990237its worse with Korone since she did it to satisfy her self
Phase is supposedly doing better than nijien but that doesnt seem to be true?
>>64990152sister you're fucking retarded
>>64990109Ollie getting together with big names in the industry like Obake Pam, Pippa Pipkin, LaeDee. Hololive should be happy she's growing the audience. Maybe if this goes well, False will have her on his show and give her some exposure.
>>64989918If you stream less than 5 times a month then you probably don’t need to know your stream statistics anyway
>>64988984>solo King vs 11 holos>King wins
Why do /#/anons think that every talent makes decisions based on how much more CCV or numbers they can get and not what actually makes them happy/motivated/comfortable to stream. >Haha rawr XD. This bitch is regretting her decisions now that she gets less numbers!No retards, she was already aware this would lead to less numbers and drive away some fans but she is streaming more and is clearly more happier and enjoying what she does.I will give you an Important life advice for free:" Do what you enjoy and enjoy what you do for a living "It is no surprise that the runts/mid vtubers of each gen seem to stream the most and feels like they are stable and have good health.
>>64990294nah, quote the Shaka timestamp or the equivalent or you're the only retard here
>>64990237>we could get SO MANY VIEWS FROM ECELEB FANS>proceeds to not gain a single new viewer and lose some of your core audience who never gave a shit about ecelebsI still want to see Aki's numbers after 6 months without VCR slop because I'm pretty sure she would go back to her old pre-Ark server numbers.
>>64990109How did they get Ollie?
>>64990333>solo
>>64990120Nice.
>>64989611Stop crying faggot end your life somewhere else.
>>64990345no one does anything just to le chill and le hang with da boiz retard, this is a for-profit medium and Ririka has never been out for easy content.
How do we help her be the highlight?
>>64988984tokyo ghoul strikes again
>>64990338>No retards, she was already aware this would lead to less numbers and drive away some fans but she is streaming more and is clearly more happier and enjoying what she does.Kronii got a massive boost in how cheerful she is, literally dying from positive emotion overflow past 1 year or so.
>>64990237The fucked up thing is these viewers are only interested in male streamers. In many cases they blatantly hate female streamers and view them as e-thots. Trying to attract the male streamer audience is a fool’s errand.
>>64990292I don't see Niji EN on there?
>>64990357Probably just asked. She's doesn't seem like she'd say no. Especially if they butter her up a bit.
>>64990357what do you mean, she is literally the easiest whore to get in any context
>>64990357Probably the only affordable holo?
>>64990395Reincarnate as Japanese
>>64990402>"I never watched Kronii before and get all my knowledge of her from secondhand opinions in stealth anti thread, how could you tell?"
>>64990338>Taking shitposters seriously>Taking # thread seriouslyCalm down nigger
>>64988984Is 2ch right about the holobox falling apart? Those numbers seem oddly low for such a big collab.
What's his endgame?>>/vt/?task=search&ghost=false&search_text=femanons+add+me
>>64989486Yeah right, sis. Go back to the homobegging cesspool you came from.
>>64990338>the shitters have good healthLmao you don’t watch them or pay attention to them. They are literally the most menhara of them all
>>64990402Kronii seems a lot happier these days. She had a rough year last year.
>>64990338Man, sisters used to try a week ago
>>64990357Anon... It's fucking Ollie.
>>64990338ESL post hands
>>64990109The cancer that keeps on giving
>>64990357>”Open your legs”Literally like that anon
>>64990395I wish she'd be apart of it.
>>64989401Buff. It's a novelty for HoloEN
>>64988984That's even more like it
>>64990109Ollie aint part of Hololive
>>64988984GOLD IKUZO
>>64988984Appreciate the help from Lap-chan
>>64990631>DESTROYED THE HOLO ARMY>POST GOLD IKUZOAIEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE HE'S RUBBING SALT TO THE WOUND!
>>64989401Slight buff i would imagine, Kiara can really get a convo going about the other girls if she gets incentivized
>>64990685>Helps Kuzuha beat a big hololive collabWhat did she mean by this?
>Why do /#/anons think that every talent makes decisions based on how much more CCV or numbers they can get and not what actually makes them happy/motivated/comfortable to stream.>Haha rawr XD. This bitch is regretting her decisions now that she gets less numbers!>No retards, she was already aware this would lead to less numbers and drive away some fans but she is streaming more and is clearly more happier and enjoying what she does.>I will give you an Important life advice for free:>" Do what you enjoy and enjoy what you do for a living ">It is no surprise that the runts/mid vtubers of each gen seem to stream the most and feels like they are stable and have good health.
>>64990458>>64990481Not now globalfags, we love hololive here
>>64988984The king makes his return>Pekora? Marine? Haven't heard of them.>Toya? Kanae? IrrelevantHis brilliance shines upon faithful believers, as he's crowned once again
>>64990685because picrel
Uyu had a run in with Kuzuha, got to do a bit with him, got clipped, Didn't get a single sub from it. How does this guy just manage to avoid all growth when anyone else would have gotten something out of this.https://youtu.be/S9SZfpstHM8
Any Kuzuha topless fanart, Kuzuha fans?
>>64990895>Helping the enemy for eBoys attentionLaplus is really staying true to her previous self huh? the bitch needs to be crucified
Eww I almost entered the aspiring vtuber thread because of this OP
>>64990482You mean 5ch
>>64987096NijisanjiEN tried to catch the HololiveEN shiny and Tempus tried to catch the Luxiem shiny. Both failed miserable.
>>64990946Why would anyone sub to uru
>>64988543Wasn’t the head of the largest male idol group outed as having casting couched kids for decades like a couple months ago?
>>64991046Yes
>>64989969oof
>>64991046yeah but it's funny instead of terrible because it happened to males
>>64990958I'm only an ironic Kingposter but here's oneTbhonest it doesn't fit him at all since he's like a chill inkya dude playing vidya
>>64990946Unity. Beautiful. Now we need to get holoEN involved and all is good in this world.
>>64991114How can female idols even compete?
>>64988984>52,219: Kuzuha (Nijisanji)>10,201: Lauren (Nijisanji)KINGflip and Nippleboi>A tale of two men
>>64989969Ngl but I always find it funny how no one beside numberfags even noticed these things at all. Only /#/ is autistic enough to follow every single sub tick
>>64990357She is the 2 dollar whore of hololive, anyone can get her
Kiara 5k
>>64990946>clipped by non niji clipperit's over anon...
>>64991046More like years ago, but the case only came to a close this year.
>Kiara 5k 10 minutes inThat’s pretty good for her
>>64991150Gross.
>>64991184Our autists are the best. Shame we also have some of the worst schizos
>>64990734He's a closer friend to her than most Holos perhaps aside from HoloX and TowaNot saying if that's a good thing or not but it's just how it seems like
>>64991265Isn't this kind of like react content? Also, Kiara shilling Tunic, one of the biggest debuffs of all time.
>>64991129Yea this looks more like white haired vox
Alright i hate tonadmit it but this is actually a really great idea for a stream. Who did kiara steal it from
>>64991129I’m also an ironic kingposter, but not devoted enough to the bit to have any lewds saved
>>64991265That is actually pretty good for most en
Kiara 6k doryaaaaaaaa
>>64991327Shes rewatching the debut streams for the slide that has their game preferences so yes. In a way
>>64990958This used to be a /#/ OP btw
Grim, I had forgot that bondEN existed, they picked up one of the grooming targets of /ASMR/ and she left the company quite quickly
>>64991360It's good because people from other fan bases will tune in to see what she gets for their oshi
>>64989655>mio is the line between those who carries the brand and those who are carried by the brand
>>64990946>Kills Kuzuha>Bullied by NijiEN girlHe'll be lucky if he isn't harassed and lose subs over that.
Kiara spreading debuff trash to everyone.
>>64990357Ollies are sold at $1.99 stores
>>64991614Fucking Ori. Goddamn. Shes trying to bring them down to her level
>>64991550Never heard of it. Pushing 1view there....
>>64989401>What would the GIRLS want>to all EN GIRLSsubtle
I'm listening to Kiara after a long time, and... did she ditch her chicken voice? She sounds normal now
>>64991589Huh there were Niji EN girls on the server? Like Pomu?
Sus
>>64991732Theire shitters. Reimu and kotoka
Kiara leeching from Gosegu paid off, she's inclining
>>64991677I prefer this crack ship. Goth JP snake girl x Goth EN girl.
>>64990357>propping her up as if she isn't frequently beat by any sidewalk 3view shitter, whether it's an indie or some other small corpo literal whoI don't know. Replied to one of her tweets, probably.
Fauna putting her fat tits on my timeline
>>64991840FRAME SOON
>>64991794>the chuchu posting is coming from the holos themselves
>>64991894Its up!
>>64991829I am so happy that Riri is finding so much success, so fucking funny that I discovered her through that lewd that went viral and then she made a song for hololive
>>64989401this is a gigabuff, I remember pekora did something like this but just buying games for herself
Fauna does not matter, not Faunaschizo btw
I totally forgot that Ina put Apex on her favourite games list...
>>64990946I do watch and I know Uyu tries more than this. He comes across both Kuzuha and Kanae several times, and there was even an episode where he got beaten up by both of them while shouting "chronoir brutality". Aside from them, he also hangs around the people in Laplus gang and camp the hospital pretty often.I mean I don't know how it's reflected in numbers so far, but he surely takes this more seriously than fucking Ao and Ririka.
>Kiara gives Ina the entire Tales Of series, forcing takos to watch 3400 hours of tales snoozefest, dumping her numbers as hard as possibleLaughing my ass off
>>64991943You made me look fucker
>>64992026holy shit actual sabotage from wawa
Kiara is officially not a runt anymore
>>64988543i heard western artists are more fucked now because of the recent shenanigan Taylor Swift pulled to regain back her rights to her songs. major labels are now revising their contract to be more jewish about ownership and artists are being forced to sign it if they wanna renew.
>>64991988Nah Pekora do it the other way around, she give other girls money and ask them to buy her something
>>64991948I hang around in the vsinger channel more than anything else so I kinda always knew about her. That said, I'm happy for her too, her 3d funds finished in like 6 minutes or something. Quite the speedrun.
Kiara 7k dorya
>>64992054I tought bae was the runt
>>64992036It is up. Look again
7k DORYA!!!!!!
>>64992054She's likely been replaced by her biggest fan, so passing the torch I guess.
>>64991794
>>64992054looks like nerissa debuting was a good boost to her.
>>64992054>pomu is a massice debuffKind off funny
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bqHAOYTaD28https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bqHAOYTaD28https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bqHAOYTaD28Two streams!
>>64992139youtube unculling adblockers was the moment she gained about 1K CCV overnight though
>>64992026Should have given her Xenoblade series.
>>64992094I was about to say fuck you but it is indeed up. Thanks sapbro.
>>64992230
>>64992232i guess both helped her out, then.
>>649922302 streams?
>>64992026Kiara is doing guerilla warfare
>>64989748I honestly think one of the higher ups over there thought it sounded cooler in their head.Like, they literally said "エンターテーンメント・ファクトリー!" out loud in their head, thought it sounded cool and shipped it.I don't think they though through the implications of the word, or what their western fanbase things or anything else for that matter, because their "translator" is a guy that copy pastes text on google translate and just runs with it.To this day they do not have official translators for their JP talent announcements. Gundou, Asahina, Chihiro none of these girls have official graduation announcements in English.
>Kiara watching random Steam trailers on stream easily mogs the ROMEO AND JULIET OF VTUBERS collabHoly fucking KEK, unityfags are worthless
>>64992230Nice. But her POV isnt up yet.
>>64992300Lethal Company collab later tonight
>>64989401It's a variant of the > browsing steam for fun games to play meta, so I think it'll have a good pullBut then again it's Kiara so who knows
Isn't this kinda dangerous for Kiara? Watching trailers with sound on? She could get copyright strike
People in the chat getting Signalis and Stalaris confused and telling her Fauna played it.
>>64992339That's even if you combine them too.
>>64992339>ROMEO AND JULIET OF VTUBERSwho the fuck is that?
>>64992230And people told me it would be on Saturday. My win. I knew it's a better fit to do it today for the schedule she needs.
>>64992174it was 2 POVs so it just wasn't much of a bust
>>64992339It's like their 5th collab.
>>64992385Multiple JP girls have done it with no issue.
>>64992363What time?
>>64992339I dont know who the romeo and juliet of vtubing is
>>64992385She said management said it was find or something.Did peko not do something similar?
>>64989884maybe it's because no one actually posted her rm
>>64992453FST+4
>>64992059yeah but muh idol culture is far worse on god frfr
>>64992385She's basically shilling games for free, if any company has any complain about this they are fucking retarded (e.g Nintendo but there aren't Nintendo games on Steam)
>>64992359She may not have pov for today, but have one for amongus, not decided yet
>>64992322>>64989748why anyone would be mindbroken by something said since 2018? are you a retard?and nijijp not giving a shit about overseas is nothing new
yab
>Kiara ask wgo played payday>Instantly begins spamming homosI hate KFP so fucking much
>>64992645Not having a pov for LC would be retarded, Fauna please
>>64992661I only saw grey fags to be fair
>Rissa vibin' in a low 3view karaoke stream
>>64992385If Cover gave her perms for it, she'll be fine.If anyone tries to copyright this they better have god's own PR team because holofags will rip them to shreds.
>>64992661this is the biggest reason as to why no corpo should have a male branch
>>64992661> oh i meant the girlsKek. Kiara. At least chat was smart enough to tell her to get 2 instead of 3
>>64992661>>64992711screencap their names next time so I can check their opsec
>>64992719>not watching KiaraFake KFP
>>64990210You're a complete retard if you think anyone said "entertainment factory" as an expression is a novelty for NIjisanji.What was said is that they sterilized their content, the origin of their hires and everything else and Mayuzumi stated reason for graduation>which he went AT LENGTHwere exactly the "creative differences" in this respect.
>>64992739
>>64992767Retard
>>64992767Kiara told her to leave so she wouldn't see her Christmas present!
>>64992767Kiara asked her not to watch the stream, so she wouldn't be spoiled with her game gift
>>64992617it's not that the companies care, it's that automated IP bots can hit you and then you have to dick around with getting them removed, and be especially careful if you're streaming with 1 strike sitting on your account. If you have two, you basically shouldn't even stream until they clear.
Anons said phase is above nijisanji en but they arent even in the top 10 for the month and their numbers are counted in vstats
>>64992767actual retard lol
>>64992778Thanks for spoling this gore
>>64992719She got kicked out of Kiara's stream so what else is she supposed to do?
>>64992026kek, Kiara drive to escape being the Myth lowest ranked passes through sabotage!
>>64992778loico mackerchama...
>>64992657She's just like me fr fr
>>64992768This literally has been a thing said since 2018 by management you imbecile. Even mito made jokes about it 5 years ago.Stop acting like you know nijisanji just because you spend your day reading 2ch.
>>64992823>mogged by homostarsOH NO NO NO NO NO NO NO PHASESISTERS!
>>64992661>Immediately btfo
>>64992823Because one phase is above some NijiEN and the rest may as well not exist.
>>64992778You can find hundreds of these on Twitch. Maybe thousands even.
>>64992823Neoporte is more popular than 774? kek
>>64992767Imagine self-reporting yourself for not even threadreading.
>>64992823>he bought their propaganda21 out of 22 members are 3view shitters.
>>64992822I didn't know Youtube was so anal about that, I thought companies/owners have to report the stream themselvesWhen did she get the 1st strike btw?
>>64992230Its gonna be a great day
>>64992823HomoEN doko?
>>64992874No idea. She fucking shocked the fuck out of one of the new kawaii girls though.
>>64992719Who is she watching?
>>64992778I actually reported you for guro.Fucking disgusting.
>>64993054Isn't that the new one who had the twitter yab
>>64993070>>64993054
>>64992778Kys demi
>>64992914You absolute retard, learn english for fuck sake. Nobody is saying>Nijisanji started saying "entertainment factory" recentlyWhat is being said is that NIjisanji is exercising a much heavier editorial control over the content produced by their livers, making that statement reality instead of merely a slogan.Follow the thread, the initial anon said>NijiEN is different enough from Nijisanji due to no mixed waves and due to no "weird" designs.The response to that was that even Nijisanji main branch themselves didn't do that for most of the history of NIjiEN, with the only mixed wave up until TTT being Edengumi, and no "weird design" since Gwelu.Then and only then the "entertainment factory" came into play, with VTA being mentioned as an example of how much Nijisanji is controlling the origin of their hires, their training and their content in a departure of how they operated back before 2020.
>Kiara at 7.5k?
The pride of Jewdol...
>>64993054>$100 dono goal…and I bet she doesn’t always make it
>>64992823so nijijp is above holojp but when you put all holo branches in one they surpass nijisanji, interesting
>>64993054>daily dono goal>$100she's beaten it but jesas, ganbare small corpo girl
>>64993113Nope that is another one
>>64993054Nerisanjishojowaii
didn't people here say that this Kiara stream wasn't buff?
>>64992823Niji EN has like 50 people. No one is ever going to be ahead of them on sheer volume except Holo EN. What Niji will eventually be in danger of is losing in views per streamer if they keep flooding the market with 3view shitters.
>most of 'indochads' got banned>thread still shitso who`s the real culprit ? i thought indogs are nijinigger and homobeggar
>>64992972>Neo-porte has 2 of the biggest ex-indies counted in their numbers>774 lost Patra and Met, Uge now barely streams and 2 more will graduate soonAre you surprised?
>>64992778AAAAAAIIIEEEE
>>64993263it's the flips
>>64993263it turns out indos were blameless and filipinos were the real threat all along
>And she can play it with the ChumbudsKiara....
>>64992972>Neoporte is more popular than 774? kekAnon, 774 Inc. right now lives exclusively at the mercy of Haneru.Haneru leaves, they're dead.
>Kiara wanting to gift Gura a game to play with chumbudsThat's some optimism there.
>>64993185Probably would have been better siding with Lumi instead of the purple whore.
>>64993257The branch is already making less money this year than it did same time last year.
>>64993168Natural incline >>64992054Not streaming Tales of Dicks in my Ass #39 also helps
YAB
>>64993263Filipeños
>>64993371She will wake up in 2024.
>Open IRyS' Debut stream"I don't like Numbers"
A fucking VN for IRyS. Really kiara??
>>64993391Yeah no shit, they had the tail end of Luxiem popularity still going last year. Now it's beyond dead. Vox's carcass and Hex/Scarle are carrying them as far as SCs.
>>64993469kek
>>64993525Vox won back-to-back golds this week?
>>64993168All other EN fans are tuning in to see what their oshi gets, it's funEven I am watching
>>64993371KEK!!!
>posting his own comment
IRyS too dumb for a puzzle game.
Kiara 8k no raid incoming
>>64993606How brave! Totally spoke truth to power!
>>64993606https://www.reddit.com/user/pyrobola/
>>64993606>screenshotting yourself>greyFucking retard
>>64993606We love Gura and Chumbuds here
>>64993450Kiara HATES IRyS!
>>64993606>grey
>>64993589We're talking about money, keep up.
>>64993599Me too. Fauna next right?
>>64993667>lgbt>okbuddyhololive
>>64993667Jesus how did you find it so fast
>>64993606do these greyniggers think that their opinions matter?
>>64993606
>>64993667>r/okbuddyhololiveOf fucking course it's a homobegging sister. It's more shocking how she's actually watching a stream instead of clips.
>Gura and Kiara STILL hate IRySWhat did IRyS do to them?
>>64993768nta, but most retards are too lazy to run different usernames on different sites
>>64993667>r/okbuddyhololive>r/Vshojo>r/lgtb
>>64993667> muh gender> vshitshow> okbhJust throw it into the fire. No questions asked
>>64993667>OKBH>LGBT>VshojoKEK
>>64993606>>64993667Tranny-chan, kill yourself.
>>64993667
>>64993818Please peddle your made up rrat somewhere else.
>>64993836>>64993842Jesus Christ, disgusting subhuman.
>>64993836>>64993842>>64993856Why is this combo always appear on anti's profile?
>>64993768I am the bone of my sword, personally identifying information is my body and IRL harassment is my blood. I have doxxed over a thousand redditors
Are Gura antis all trannies?
The numbers poison apothecary trying to gift a game IRyS would be willing to stream sounds impossible
She should gift IRyS Gal Gun
>>64993738NTA but I think she's going by debut order
Fauna LC POV up
will she hit 8k?
>>64994003LMAOfucking leechhow's that embed going?
>>64993168I am bored and there's nothing else to watch
>>64993667>literal vwhorejo watching homobeggar tranny holoan Holy fucking shit, these subhumans are caricatures.
>>64994003What am i supposed to look at?
>>64994003She had a collab with Aura's roommate if that's what you screenshotted that for.
>>64993952Trannies hate Lolis
[Kiara yab]She's wants to buy Code Vein for Bae (the game is trash and a debuff)
>>64994123Who is that?
>>64993168These are just Kiara's numbers if she actually streamed at Eu hoursIt's just a good stream idea, hence the numbers
>>64994147It’s Bae, who gives a fuck
>>64994161New niji wave
>>64994147Everything Bae plays is trash and a debuff, does it matter? The fact that Yakuza is somehow better than her normal fare is telling
>>64994037Nice. Now for the other 3. It would be a terrible idea to have it only 1 POV
>>64987246>>64987367even the older gens have a few in the 600-700 range. even a couple of 4-digits.
>>64994123A Homostar
>>64994161If you're actually serious then it's one of the new homos who debuted a month ago and went on a twitter woketard tirade about lolis on his second week.
Kiara playing Russian Roulette for who has to take Tunic.
>>64986945>calls himself the anime man>never watched Hunter X Hunter
>>64994161Newest nijisanji wave
>>64994027But Fauna debuted after Sana and she skipped her. She did Bae now
>v4mirai have 2 streams overlapping>50 ccv on each onegrim, this is kawaii level
>>64994283Oh I see. I don't keep up with the new nijis or holostars. I assume they're all weirdos by default.
>>64994309Kronii got it
>>64994309Giving it to Kronii. KEK
>>64994309Rest if piece, Kronii
>>64994372>I assume they're all weirdos by defaultAnd unsurprisingly this always ends up being true.
I bet Fauna would get like 8k with Tunic and actually make it an enjoyable streaming experience.
>>64993935guess where that whole movement started?
>>64994397>>64994406>>64994422It's within the range of kusogames she usually plays, maybe even better
>>64994438>fauna>playing soulslike
>>64994372>weirdos That's generous, being weird isn't necessarily a bad thing. I think Moom is abit weird, but it's endearing and cute. I can't say the same for nijishitters and tempiss
When was the last time Kiara got liveposted like this? Kek
>>64994438Kiara's playthrough of Tunic was great so I bet Fauna's would be too.
>>64994484I would prefer watching that over her usual shit
Kiara is a cheapfuck lol
>>64994366Haven't they collabed with Ironlung, Kson and HimeHina already, and even had 3D debuts? How can their numbers be so GRIM?
>>64994147>>64994250Bae would probably get good numbers for the first stream with character creation at least...
>>64994366I tought kawaii was a 500 ccv? Or was that just nene?
>>64994527Stop exposing yourself for not even being a thread reader.
>>64994527Seriously. $60 Kiara. Fucking cheap for someone like her
Any Holo ever play Red Faction 3?
no mummy...
>>64994611Ironic post
>>64994527600 euro hard-limit pls understand
>>64994514Her SC reading a few days ago talking about the mongus collab, which nobody could predict beforehand she would talk about it, meaning there are a bunch of anons here that are always watching her.
Fauna the first one with a frame up: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WvwymfsCqUc
>>64994495Tunic is Soulslike? I thought it was like Zelda..
>>64994645IRyS and Fauna together is enough, but it's sad without Moom
>>64994604Nene is barely 1k during asmr and sub 300 for anything elseThat corpo is doomed
>>64994604Nah they are pretty low but they punch above their weight in donations
>>64994604lmao no
>>64994003Kiara is very popular among indies and small corpo chuubas, nothing new
>>64994680Why is the chat disabled?
>>64994527Kiara actually has to pay her EU slave taxes rather than try to escape to the Philippines to evade them.
>>64994739Because she has her other chat up
>>64994680numbers pov
>>64993606>>64993667
>>64994527Most euros are cheap as fuck especially germanoidst. northern germanoid
>>64994645>baeEvery fucking time
Did bae have that watchalong with clown faggot?
>>64987855because they can lead to funny interactions, are you autistic? normal people don't care about the gender factor here that much. it may not have turned out well (debatable whether they should've marketed to normalfags), but it's not an outlandish idea.
KIARA 8K!!!!!!!!!
>>64994876
kiara 8k dorya
8k DORYA
>>64994942
>>64994876Its tomorrow i belive
8k no raids all natural. Hololive is only growing stronger
>>64994972>>64995042>>64995048NijiCN status?
>>64995038Spoiler that shit faggot
>>64994972>>64995042>>64995048what the FUCK
IRyS frame up
>>64995038NIGGA I'M EATING HERE WTF
>>64994876She did, and she's going to do it again.
>>64994495she plays roguelikes.
>>64989454>>64989432>>64989502>>64989837is 8k not buff?
>Coffee TalkOH NO NO NO NO NO NO SAPLINGS! LOOK AWAY!
>>64995038just pay him on his notShinri fansly for his services
>>64994506yes, women are usually excused for stuff like that.
>>64995171I was aieeeeeeeeing because it was a steam purchase stream that was banned until recently
>>64993606>>64993667Lmao I was the one who posted it hopeing the normal Anon would find it. Was to busy making sure faggots wouldn’t choose something bad for IRYs and holy shit of course it’s a vshojo tranny faggot
mummy!!!
>>64995188I liked the game....
>>64989826She doesn't love you, in fact, she's disgusted by you
What did he mean by this
>>64993525>>64993391yes the branch is making less than last year because last year was the highest of their popularity, this is obvious. Its not impossible or even hard to surpass this year revenue in the next FY, in fact that happens most of the time.In any case, very doubtful they ever will merge or close down a branch that makes 1 billion in revenue, its not kr or id which barely made any money>>64993257ccv never will be the danger of anything, anycolor cares about revenue, and on this matter unless they reach kr and id levels, which is almost impossible, then yeah they will do something. Other than that they will continue investing and insisting in it for 2-3 years at the very least
Western vtuber fans are fucking deranged for this shit. No you dumb fucks watching clips on other people's channels is not support>b-but i'm juicing the algo with a view so someone who might watch streams/vods could stumble upon the clip cause of me and get hookedYeah and I've frequently called Vox a faggot apparently I have propagated his brand name and I'm a supporter
>>64995067nahoone>>64995150well after the marmite arc with roberu and drinking oga's green fluids he left in holo-office
>>64994739saplings were always disabled tho
>>64995336Takodachi from the future. He's already seen Fauna's full play-through.
>>64995188I actually enjoyed Coffee talk. My only gripe is that they keep leaving (you) as a hard mystery despite the fact that you seem to be a time travelling alien since you're related to the other 2 aliens
Sophie's Choice of shit games
>>64995373 well after the marmite arc with roberu and drinking oga's green fluids he left in holo-office *I'm not surprised
KFP aren't brain-dead with their vote
>>64988988>>64987484you can just post whatever you want. there are occasional posts about random Japanese 2-views. (and this is also the news thread.)
>>64995342And yet NijiJP surpassed last year's take this year.
>>64995342anons still think ccv and subscribers are the reason companies do anything. hell even anikuro gives merch and shit for shitters like aster
>>64995453Va11 hall a is fucking shit and people only care because it's crude. It's also not a game Fauna would enjoy playing on stream so inscryption is the only real choice
>>64995453holy fuck i remember the grim bae/mori va1 ha11a days
>>64995269>with @OuroKronii @CeresFauna @HakosBaelz it's over...
>>64995382AIEEEEEEEEEE PAINT THE BOARD ORANGE
>>64995585hoomans... not like this...
>>64995365Watching streams shouldn't feel like a job. You shouldn't feel like you have to "support" someone who makes 10X what you do. If you want to, great, do it, but don't feel bad if you can't. Do feel bad if you only can watch some streams or even clips. Just don't pretend you know everything about them when you're missing a lot of the content and it's fine.
>>64995531thats very much what I said, anon. NijiEN high popularity in their second year was a fluke, now they are stabilizing. nijijp is a much more popular brand and branch that only gets bigger.
Inscryption would be cool actually. It was fun watching Vinny play.
>>64995453Fauna would like va11 hall-a since it has lesbians in it
>>64995269>trusting the pon deberu's thumbnail over Fauna'sHookek...
>>64995585
>>64995663its cute when girls are a little retarded
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8MTObDnCgaQ&pp=ygUXb2dhIGp1Y2llICBiYWUgZHJpbmtpbmc%3D
>>64995489>thinking there are 8k KFPWill be interesting to see her chat overlap graph after the stream.
>>64995658>Fauna>Lesbiananon...
>>64995710a-chan is a hololive anti
>>64995658Based but you're wrong
>>64995453Based on some of the suggestions for various members, a lot of KFP just don't watch streams do they
>>64995728She likes lesbian not that she is one
Why is oboretai shilling his clips?
Were IRyStcrats the only ones to actually recommend a game their oshi might like so far?
>>64990338Lol why did this piss off numberfags? >Mumei, Gura, Fauna, IRySand then you have>Kiara, Bae, MoriTell me which group streams more
>>64995625Stabilizing is a cope. I imagine that's something they tell themselves to keep morale from cratering even further. Not sure what Riku thinks of the current status of the branch though. Everything is declining.
I roll my eyes every time any of those girls complain about game prices. Not like they should flaunt their wealth, but come on. Those are normal prices, for normal people.
>>64995760you really think he would be shilling his clips in Unicorn central?
>>64995771Last time people posted their holosorters, there was a lot of IRyStocrat/KFP overlap
>>64995839Yes.
>>64995815gaming is expensive anyways