/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

my wife

I love my wife so much!!

I will NOT read the thread
I LOVE GURA!!

Gurass

I don't understand what the fuck Gura is doing, frankly. Last month she was in the company discord jumping on any collab and now she's entirely MIA? Who the fuck can't even check discord phone for any important stuff every few days.

Like all it takes is a bit of effort to string everything along but she keeps somehow surpassing herself in how low she can go

I love Gura the most!

Still love her

Sex with a fembud.

>>64867598
She's at her parent' house not giving a fuck about Hololive. Watch her retweet something on Christmas when she finally remembers we exist

>>64867949
You're optimistic.

>>64845248
>Is 2024 gonna be better?
Even if she starts streaming regularly again, the answer is no. Things will never get better and the reason is due to these past few months revealing how she really feels about her fans.
From now on, you will always remember in the back of your mind that Gura is perfectly content to abandon chumbuds for months at a time and not miss us at all.
From now on, you'll remember how little effort it would have required of her to make have made her fans extremely happy and not worry, and yet she just couldn't be bothered.
From now on, whenever she says she cares about chumbuds, you'll remember how easily she left us to rot and how she didn't even think to tell us she was okay for months.
From now on, every time she sings a love song in Karaoke, you'll know that there isn't any meaning to it and that she's only there to make money.
From now on, you'll notice that she has no desire to talk about her projects with us because she isn't interested in our reactions or sharing anything with us at all.
From now on, you'll question whether she's really enjoying herself while she's streaming and wonder if she'd rather be spending time with the people in her life that she actually cares about.
From now on, you'll wonder if she's only saying what she thinks you want to hear.
From now on, as the stream is ending, you'll question if she's going to leave us again for months without a word, even if she seems happy and has plans for the following week like in August.

Things will never get better because you will always remember how little we meant to her during these past four months. Gura showed us how she really feels and so things will never be the same. Her love for us is dead and she wanted us to know that.

Day 22! Give it up for day 22!

>>64867986
Okay enlightened one and why are you here exactly?
>inb4 you just realized this cause no Advent calendar

>>64868120
The most dedicated crew always go down with the ship.

my wife

>>64867986
It's always been fake and you're a fool if you ever believed this was more than a job to her. If things get better I will just consume content and goom like I've always done.

>>64867986
She sure to tell Gura these things when you get the opportunity.

My Gurandma.

>>64867986
Nah I will forgive her when I hear her voice for a minute.

>>64868158
While bitching about the ship 24/24 apparently. And telling the other crewmembers that even if the ship doesn't sink we'll always remember when she failed us so crewing it will forever be a miserable experience. Fuckstupid analogy.

>>64867986
all is forgiven when she is ready, it's that simple my dude. have fun convincing me otherwise

I hate my life so much!!

>>64868202
You know I'm starting to doubt this opportunity can even arrive. Hasn't she been gone for like 4 months now in a row? When was the last normal, solo stream?

>>64868224
>>64868232
>forgive
But I still can't get mad at her

>>64868277
Don't know, but be sure to tell her these things when you do get the opportunity.

>>64867986
I've been through so much shit to hold a grudge against a glorified egirl. If there's streams then I'll just show up for them it's that simple

>>64868277
>normal, solo stream
I thought streams on her channel count? Are we adding more condition now?

>>64868181
You never would have said that even just a year ago, and if you had, you'd be shit on by everyone in the thread.
It's telling that the only fans of hers left are the ones that think like you, the cynical trash that so many of us started watching Hololive to get away from and avoid.

>>64867986
actions speak louder than words, huhaha

>>64868405
>now

It only counts when
>It's on Gura's channel
>It's a solo stream
>Frame should be made 10 hours before it starts
>Gura needs to tweet the stream 10 hours before it starts
>Gura has to write an 500 word essay to update us on twitter
>Made one funny on meme tweet and all these don't count
>It can not be a karaoke stream
>It can not be a watchalong
>It can not be a kusoge game playing stream
>It can not be an outfit reveal
>It can not be an anniversary stream
>It can not be an unarchived stream
>The stream should be at least 4 hours long
>Gura has to address her absent
>It has to contain at least 1.5 hours of SC reading
>It contains at least 3 criticism SC
>Those criticism SCs should be orange or above
>Those criticism SCs cannot be sent in ARS
>Gura has to read those criticism SCs out
>Gura has to answer those criticism SCs for not less than 3 minutes
>Gura has to apologize
>Gura needs to release a month of full schelude
>The stream cannot end exactly at the 4 hours mark.

>>64867986
Kiara lost, that piss poor production value she just showed us, won't, in a million years, spark the interest

>>64867986
>She streams
>I happy
simple as

This made me want to write a mean comment about her, but I will be a good chumbud and avoid toxicity.

Things are getting interesting.

>>64868408
And I was right

>>64868277
August 17 was her last normal stream that she did out of her own volition.
At least, we think she did it out of her own volition. I guess you can't really know anything for sure anymore when it comes to how she felt back then. It was probably always excruciating for her to spend time with us given that she is burnt out on her fans in particular.

>They finally have Binding of Isaac perms
Wtf took them so long? Gura been asking form perms over a year ago.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=2NjXXQYtUNY&feature=youtu.be

>>64868405
Anon what are we talking about, exactly? Why are you involving me in the counter shitposting?
I mention normal solo stream because that's when she'd be likely not to skeddadle instead of reading any confrontation messages/SC. Even in the last stream she had a little bit of a chat for 20 mins and then left.

>>64867581
SNIFFFFFFFFFF

>>64868481
You should send this to her manager.

>>64868405
NTA, but count towards what? All he asked was when her last normal, solo stream was, not when she last streamed in general.
It's like asking when her last karaoke stream was. Calm down, bud.

It's pretty pointless to be a member right now since there's no member content and such.

Graduation in the Spring still looks to be on schedule. You don't make a new school uniform outfit and never stream after revealing it. Cover is going to make it a whole spectacle making all members all hands on deck. Sukara petals will be falling for the whole week.

>>64868786
fuck off yesbud

>>64868931
>two weeks

>>64868405
People like to assume she's being forced to stream now because it makes them feel better about her being gone for so long.

I can post screenshots of my ingame status too

>>64868919
This is true but Google only charges me like 2.5$ and it's not like I ever donated or anything. Until I've had enough I consider it a "thanks for all the good times" donation. Sides, I did enjoy some of her recent stuff even if it wasn't streaming so eh

>>64868931
>Cover being bothered to get involved with anything when they are perfectly content with doing nothing

>>64868519
>>64868389
>>64868232
>>64868224
Genuinely don't understand how you find joy watching somebody forcing themselves to show up for people they don't care anymore and just basically being an empty shell of what they used to be

Gura is slowly but surely improving on her condition.

>>64869009
We don't even know why she's been gone. She just mentioned "being a little burnt out" in passing and people are just running with that.

>>64869068
I consider merch to have been my 'thanks for the good times' donations
the only thing I've ever truly wanted just to have it was dino, though I guess I got more use out of the bowl than I expected

>>64869159
What's her condition?

>>64869101
>WhY Are YOu StILL HaPpy NOOOOOOOOOOO
by not giving a shit about your shitposts I guess

>>64869101
I mean that's what a lot if Twitch streamers do but you don't really know what she feels, so don't know why you're pretending to know what she feels.

>>64869009
No one said that, retard.
Obviously, things like a concert, anniversary, outfit reveal, or a sponsored stream are all things she has to do. Collabs aren't normal streams either.
Pretending that you don't know what a "normal, solo stream" is is really disingenuous.

She's MIA. The advent calendar was funded by management and there's no way they can't contact her. It's also the reason why we don't have any news about the aquarium.

I just got home and I'm confused. How are we sure that Gura isn't in the Advent calendar? Didn't Kiara's video say she was going to be?

>>64869173
Merch can't be a donation dumb dumb, you got something for that. But eh, matter of opinion I guess.
I only bought Smol Gura and Dino Gura and really my logic of buying them was noticing how much it'd suck when she was gone and wanting something tangible to remember, spurred on by Sana leaving. Guess I was on to something.

>>64869318
Kiara said she was unable to get in contact with Gura so unless she shows up last minute she's not gonna be in it

>>64869159
She couldn't even be bothered to record a 2 minute short for Kiara's advent calendar after telling her she would.
If anything, she's getting worse and even more distant, not only from us, but from Hololive and her genmates as well.

>>64869290
>It's also the reason why we don't have any news about the aquarium.
Anon? She's not actually gonna be at the aquarium, there's no further need of her to post news about it other than RTs and shit.

>>64869290
>Management are also a bunch of lazy fucks who won't bother contacting her
No surprise

Did I miss something? Why is there shitposting again

>>64869399
>last minute
What does that mean anyway? How long does the calendar go? 20 days? 24? 25?

>>64869169
She won't tell us the real reason she's doing this because she can't.

>>64869406
>after telling her she would
When did that happen? Is this your cope for Kiara claiming it would include all of HoloEN when it didn't?

>>64869490
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>>64869399
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>>64869490
Hello?

>>64869414
It could get cancelled if Gura doesn't submit her voicelines for it so they could be waiting on her to do that.
>>64869418
You're right about management but Gura is at fault here for not having a way to let them contact her. For all we know she could've turned off her Hololive phone AND her personal phone

Gura has bipolar disorder and probably psychosis.

>>64869528
Hey what's up

>>64869628
Did I miss anything new? Whats up with the paragraphs

>>64869318
>How are we sure that Gura isn't in the Advent calendar?
https://youtu.be/lBpVkCx4nOA?t=5206

Also, Cover, a Japanese company, missed their announcement date where they were going to reveal more information about the Sendai aquarium collab.
https://hololive.hololivepro.com/en/news/20231128-01-54/

Something really bad is happening.

>>64869372
I consider it as such from my own personal perspective, since it's what gets her the best split of the cash and because I don't even particularly care about the stuff, the daki in particular was one thing where it was just a 'thank you for fighting to get this thing out and thank you for coming back' purchase, I don't even care about dakis

>>64869528
hewwo :3

>>64869068
>my feelings about Gura are nothing more than that of a customer paying for a service.
grim.

>>64869671
Who cares man. Has nothing to do with me. Management always sucks at stiff like this

Gura has avoidant personality disorder and imposter syndrome.

As grim as things are the fact that Jap-sama mentioned her makes me think that she hasn't told them she's planning on graduating soon and it's just that Gura's been ebbing for a long time and will one day snap out of it

Why are seethebuds so butthurt about my gigabased oshi again?

>>64868919
I like supporting my wife. Five dollars a month is like 20 minutes of work

Gura has syncope and pica.

>>64869784
You gotta stop using that word anon. Shitposters use it a lot

>>64869490
She wouldn't have said that it was going to include everyone if she didn't get confirmation ahead of time. Saying that another member will be in your project when you never asked them to be in it is not something any member of Hololive would ever do and it would probably be against company rules anyways because of the drama it could potentially cause.

>>64869569
>AAAAAAAARG I'M DOOMPOSTING
Alright kid that's enough, stop trying to spread FUD.

Will there be any fembuds at the Sendai Gurarium?

>>64869890
Oh are you guys talking about those retarded christmas shorts? I havent watched a single one

I hope Gura finds something that makes her feel fulfilled. We're left with nothing but swearing and moaning, watching her move on with her life while leaving us behind.

>>64869784
When will you finally realize this Jap faggot is using Gura's own words to mock you. He joined the company at the end of 2022 right when Gura started going awol.

Can I join you guys to shitposts too? Booba!

>>64870021
>we
Strongbuds aren't part of your pity party, and never will be. At worst they'll click unsub and move along.

>>64870111
Ngl, I love booba Gura.

>>64870021
I dont feel left behind but its good thats shes doing her life reps

>>64870111
worst post ITT

>>64870163
This. If she really is going to graduate, there's no reason for me to stick around.

>>64870021
don't worry, I'll make her happy!

>>64869414
>She's not actually gonna be at the aquarium, there's no further need of her to post news about it other than RTs and shit.
NTA, but a company as large as Cover with Japanese date and time autism isn't going to miss a deadline unless something happened. It's been two days and they still haven't revealed anything more about the collab like they said they were going to. Cover was sponsored by the Tourist Attraction Strategy Promotion Division of Sendai City's Culture and Tourism Bureau, and so they have to meet certain deadlines. The fact that they didn't is extremely concerning for such a large deal between the two organizations. It could be the other side that is having problems, but considering that Cover didn't update their website to say that the update was delayed, it's more likely that it's a problem at Cover.
Something is definitely wrong.

>>64870021
Not her fault you're not doing anything with your life.

>>64867986
Too many seething simps in the replies

>>64870479
Literally nothing you said has anything to do with Gura being around. Go drink yourself to death if you're so worried, but you won't spread that shit to us, no one but me even cares to reply to your drivel.

>>64869459
You don't know what an advent calendar is? It's a calendar with compartments for each day from December 1st to December 25th that usually contain candy or small toys inside.
How do you not know how many days are in an advent calendar? It's Christmas related, so you should have been able to guess anyways.

I had my first chumbieprime dream. I've obtained gura, ogayu, and now fauna.

>>64869671
Gura is being doxxed and she can't do shit

is goop goop streaming tonight

>>64870479
What the actual fuck are you talking about though? The event has already been fully announced, start to finish. We know when its gonna be, where its gonna be, when it ends. What news are you saying they missed?

>>64870701
She isn't on a break, so it's possible.

>>64870639
I did guess you dumb fuck, why do you think I stopped at 25? But I was confused why, if there are 7 days left (6 assuming the 25th can't just be Gura) is there this much doomposting like it's a done deal.

>>64870672
She got doxxed ages ago. There's no reason why it would be affecting her now

>>64870774
https://hololive.hololivepro.com/en/news/20231128-01-54/
this thing

>>64870479
As i said she is being doxxed
>theory

>>64869761
It doesn't seem to be management's fault considering that Kiara can't get a hold of Gura either. Not sure why you think the problem is Cover staff.

Another day another dino

I've missed this retarded shitposting.

>>64870833
This thing scares antis shitless.

>>64870871
She was doxxed by retards and these retards would keep a secret. No it must have been directly to her or her family. Maybe death thread?

>>64870479
Now we know that she's ghosting Kiara and her manager so either she doesn't give a fuck and will come back like nothing happened or something is very wrong and they're just waiting to announce her termination

>>64869837
When one side of a relationship always gives everything without asking for anything in return, and the other side always takes without giving anything back, that isn't love at all.

>>64869159
>>64870757
>>64870833
>>64870877
>>64870939
>>64871000
>>64871052
>>64871114
>>64871166
That's a girl wearing a dino suit

>>64869972
I haven't either, but that doesn't have anything to do with the fact that Gura flaked on her and seems to be getting worse.

>>64871069
Or... she's on holiday because it's the holidays

>>64871225

>>64870701
yes, she's streaming her hot piss down my gullet

dino always makes people feel better

>>64871069
At this rate Kiara will graduate before Gura, no reason to stay in this company if they don't value your idol skills, Kiara ain't masochistic

>>64871225
Yeah and Gawr is Gura too am I right?

>>64871165
Turns out Gura is the one pumping and dumping here

>>64871165
I know the deal already Mr.Koro. I don't expect the streamer to return it in the first place.

>>64870163
Silently moving on without telling the other side why is by far the weaker course of action, and is only befitting a coward afraid of an awkward confrontation with the other party. That "stoicism" you're so foolishly proud of belies your lack of passion, your indifference towards that you pretend to care about, and your insecurity dealing with other people.

>>64871598
Epictetus says suck my nuts

>>64867511
In the last 2 month I reported 164 times when gawr guras real identity was exposed on all social media . Someone or some group is spamming same thing over and over. Half of these was done last week .i don't know how but somehow it must have been seen by her family or her whatever . She knows too that why she has gone . If you want her to return stop spamming same shit over and over. And those brave souls who help me clean their shit . Thank you.
You MUST PROTECT HER IDENTITY.

>>64871384
Don't fall for Kiara's attention whoring. She's never going to graduate, she craves validation too much

>>64871647
All I've learned from this is that vtubing is dangerous and that I'm glad she isn't paying attention to all this shit.

You think Gura could sing metal?

>>64870852
>if there are 7 days left [why] is there this much doomposting like it's a done deal.
Probably because the other days are already planned and most of the others have submitted their videos already. Kiara literally said she doesn't think Gura is going to be in it after all.

>>64871725
But she is that why she is hiding. Just couple of hours ago i saw it again . They are using insta names like ysuu273hfhifuej3h
And only post about her her family her location her career and they got 10 - 20 likes before it is removed

>>64871745
>submitted their videos already
I doubt that since there have been two delays now in the past three days. They just plop a date overlay on the art once they submitted a video.

Glad you chumbies got it out of your systems.

>>64870628
>Literally nothing you said has anything to do with Gura being around.
While you're correct that we don't fully know the reason for the delay, an internal problem between Gura and Cover is likely the reason given that her involvement is integral to the collab and she hasn't been reachable by Kiara for either the full EN branch Among Us collab or for the advent calendar project that Gura agreed to be a part of.

>>64871413
Holy shit, we're onto something big

>>64871037
They never kept it secret in the past. There's zero reason to jump to the conclusion that Gura must be being harassed or threatened.

I see Fauna is playing The Binding of Isaac. I remember Gura mentioning that she wanted to play that.

I don't give a fuck anymore I need answers and I'm gonna find them one way or another

cheesestick

>>64872078
Perhaps my chumbieprime dream was a sign

Gura would come back in they got Muse Dash perms again. Fuck Coco for opening her mouth. Jap bitch

>>64872079
No you aren't lol

>>64870774
It would help a lot if you actually read the announcement article you're commenting on before you reply.

Gura daijoubu?

>>64871971
>While we don't know [headcanon]
Kay

>>64872216
I've always loved The Dino King, but I want nothing to do with the new Didney remake

Don't outstay your welcome KFPiss, we don't care what the ME ME ME bitch wants nor do we root for her

WHERE IS SHE

>>64870928
Managers have more leverage and its more if their obligation to keep tabs if employees than coworkers. Them failing to do is is absolutely a failing on their part.

Is Muyu a Fembud?

what if the rrats are true
what if gura is in a managerial position now
does that make sense? would it bring her more money than being a star?

Gura is Gawr, and they are both Gabby.

>>64872647
who?

Why can't I just get a new oshi like everyone else? Why do I stick to the one that doesn't give a fuck about her fans?

The best thing you can do, is end it all and leave forever.

>>64872524
trapped in a prison of her own mind and my basement

>>64872691
New Phase girl. She sang megu megu fire in her karaoke thats on right now.

>>64872802
You can still watch other vtubers anon. You are your own person

It's funny how not a single post in the history of these threads has ever been worth reading. That's the problem with threadshitters, their posts never have any value. Of course they don't, because they're just trying to be negative. Obviously nothing they post is worthwhile.

>>64872897
I'd give it a month or two before making any calls

sex with chumbies

>>64872647
I tuned into one of her streams where she showed off fan art of her kissing Gura, so maybe?

>>64873283
one of her past life streams, I mean

I like it better when threads are slow. People need to stop replying to bait.

>>64873466
Neat. Its good to have more chumbie representation.

>>64872647
She drew a Goob as a slime girl before but I didn't save it.

>>64872669
I sure as shit would not put Gura in any managerial position especially for a talent agency. She has no talent in managing logistics, coordinating and her idea of talent management is "it's okay to leave your fans in the dark for a quarter of a year and utterly disappear"

Gura is squarely in the "good talent that needs excellent tardwrangler" employee profile.

Is Gura a fembud?

>>64874060
lol why are people like you even here, you have zero understanding or appreciation of Gura. It's no wonder you're seething.

>>64874060
>her idea of talent management is "it's okay to leave your fans in the dark for a quarter of a year and utterly disappear"
I mean that seems to be what the current talent managers also think since they're allowing it.
>Gura is squarely in the "good talent that needs excellent tardwrangler" employee profile.
Too bad there doesn't seem to be any good tardwrangler in Cover.

>>64874209
Nothing in what I just said implies either of those things. It is a fact that she does not have the skillsets required to be a manager.

>>64874281
Neither do the current managers yet they are still managers.

>>64874057
Nice, I will watch this Fembud. She’s cute so far.

>>64874281
It's like saying Ame will never do a collab with males, get it? you're ignoring all the evidence so that you can downplay her

>>64871263
Usually you inform your employer that you're going to be gone for holiday so that they don't plan on doing anything that will require you to be there.
And you usually don't agree to be part of someone else's work if you plan on being gone during the time they need your agreed upon contribution.

>>64874788
Mane-san please stop venting here you useless sack of shit

>>64871642
>Epictetus
Huh? What happened to your idol that you used to lick the ass of in these threads? Did you oshihen from Marcus Aurelius?

>>64874281
If you mean spreadsheets and deadlines, no. If you mean higher level decisions, yes. Something they've consistently failed at.

>>64874943
Both epictetus and my boy aurelius have good things to say

>>64871647
Are you a newfag or are You just actually retarded? No one knows anything new about her and everything those faggots spam is shit that's been spammed and known for years by everyone. There's zero reason to think she's in danger or being threatened or stalked.
You can't do shit to protect anything because it's literally a single google search away and Youtube's algorithm literally feeds that information to you in their recommendations whether you want to see it or not.

>>64874788
Usually you keep tabs on your employees, contact them, and make sure they are there and if not announcing it beforehand. I guess doing the bare minimum is difficult for Cover managers. Also there's been no indication that she agreed to be a part of this.

>>64871900
>instagram
Wow, you're serious aren't you? You actually somehow think that any of what you're describing is new and hasn't been spammed across every platform for years. Is this your first time here?

My birds like making windshield wiper noises

Child

Can't wait for her Christmas stream!

>>64875679
I'm busy on christmas. I would be pissed if I missed the stream

>>64875679
her stream will be super sweet from all the christmas sweets she's been eating!

>>64875632
Mine

>>64872288
The indisputable facts are:
- Gura agreed to participate in the Advent Calendar.
- Gura didn't respond to Kiara when she asked her if she wanted to be in the Branch-wide Among Us collab and she was the only one who didn't.
- Gura didn't respond to Kiara when she asked for her video submission for the Advent Calendar.
- Additional information about Gura's collaboration with Sendai Aquarium was supposed to be released on the 18th.
- The date came and went without a single word from Cover or Sendai's Culture and Tourism Bureau.

You're a fool if you think there's no possible way that these things are connected.

>>64876137
>Gura agreed to participate in the Advent Calendar.
Unstated, you inferred it
>Gura didn't respond to Kiara when she asked her if she wanted to be in the Branch-wide Among Us collab and she was the only one who didn't.
>Gura didn't respond to Kiara when she asked for her video submission for the Advent Calendar.
Yes
>The date came and went without a single word from Cover or Sendai's Culture and Tourism Bureau.
Irrelevant to Gura

I notice schizos do this a lot. Look at things, conclude something, and act like people showing skepticism about the conclusion are insane and not the rational actors.

>>64876137
>these things are connected
to the fact that Kiara is an annoying leech

I LOVE GURA!

>>64876137
Man who gives a fuck about this advent shit

>>64876531
>who gives a shit about seeing Gura
and the mask finally dropped

The weirdest thing is that she did submit a video for Ina's live. Maybe she actually went on an early Holiday break and forgot about the advent calendar

>>64876656
What? Its like a 1 minute short. It aint shit

>see you next year! when my internship at Cover is over and the real deal begins
It all makes sense now

>>64876742
Ina's 3D was recorded a couple months ago.

>>64876985
Ina explicitly said the videos were sent in last minute anon, in her defense (the thing coworkers do publically btw, not bus throwing) of Ame's abscence

>>64876985
Retard. Those videos were sent last minute which is why Ame didn't show up because she ghosted Ina

>>64872147
Coco did nothing wrong. It was the chinese, newfag.
Coco merely read out analytics that Google gave her and the only reason Taiwan was so high in the list was because the chinese all used Taiwanese VPNs because Youtube is blocked in China by their government.
If you're seriously blaming Coco, then that means you have no idea what the chinese did to the other girls and the hate campaigns they went through before any of the Coco stuff ever happened.
And Gura supported Coco. She even dedicated two songs in one of her first Karaokes to her while she was suspended.
Also, picrel lol.

>>64876274
>>Gura agreed to participate in the Advent Calendar.
>Unstated, you inferred it
... Kiara said everyone would participate after being asked by a literal shrimp in a video posted on the official channel. I'm not sure that counts as inferring.

>>64877141
I’ve been dry aging a 32 ounce ribeye in celebration for when she finish atlantis. I think it might not be any good by now.

as a "weakbud" I just want to say I feel vindicated. she keeps falling lower and lower and all you patientbuds can do is post ~fem-buds and bushy shitposts here while watching other fanbases enjoy their oshi, coping by pretending gura keeps winning because dimitri jap posted cgdct.

>>64877162
It does. I am glad to educate you on how inferring works. Here is an example of a non inferred scenario
>Becky said Jessie confirmed her presence at the party.
Here is an example of an inferred scenario:
>Becky said everyone would attend her party.

>>64877301
Guga has done year long dry ages before, he isn't dead yet, try it and let us know how it turns out.

>>64877162
what he's doing is just the opposite of the schizo spectrum, or something, responding to yes-huh with nuh-uh and both of them are convinced everyone else is crazy
something is obviously up that isn't her being on holiday because it would have been accounted for, Kiara clearly expected her to be available at the beginning of the month and sending the message asking for mungus participation implies that she was obviously expected to be around in some capacity, but who knows
it's just gonna be more arguments and moping for christmas, another normal day

>>64872601
For all we know, they did contact her and she didn't respond to them either. And the missed date for the Sendai collab is a huge coincidence if it's unrelated.

>>64877335
Are you a fembud?

>>64877335
Enjoy winning an argument in this dumpster fire of a thread I guess. None of us is getting anything but we're gooming while you're just there shitting your pants

https://youtu.be/HLebHUTGpdU?t=280
can you do it chumbie? can you fix her?

>>64877462
>>64877460
>>64877346
>>64877162
Is arguing about stupid shit how you guys have fun?

>>64873002
>It's funny how not a single post in the history of these threads has ever been worth reading.
You're contradicting yourself by being here, then.

>>64877552
Yes. I still remember the pointless debate on what the word "promise" means with sociopath anon who thought it doesn't count unless you use the word.

>>64877346
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-XoicGv1IyE&t=90s
She is literally in the picture with the other participants lmao, are you the same dude that spergs out whenever someone mentions a "promise"?

>>64877335
I don't care what other fanbases are doing, anti. I can just find other things to do while I wait.

I didn't exaggerate it when I was saying Ame is Kiara's bitch, fanbase reflects the oshi

>>64877335
I'm watching fauna play a favorite of mine

>>64877462
>For all we know, they did contact her
Except we don't know since no one has said that, so I'm going to assume they didn't.

I thought Gura was Ame's bitch. Gura literally barked for Ame when she called her a bitch.

Why does she think she's too good for christmas amogus with her kouhai bros... did the fame go to her head?

>>64877536
I keep gooming to gura and shion
>>64877619
You can lie to the thread but you can't lie to yourself. No human wouldn't feel jealously in this scenario.

>>64877704
Why is Gura mad?

>>64877741
I told her not to play with them because I hate that game

>>64877704
I'd rather watch Gura play it. She's been wanting to for longer.

>>64877335
I'm not shit posting about her bushy pucci, I mean it, and I love her white forest.

>>64877601
Anon do I have to explain to you that this doesn't mean Kiara confirmed it with her personally? Maybe she asked god knows how much ago, maybe she also inferred she'd be around this month etc
I care only to point out you don't know jack shit and can only try and piece together what makes sense from your very limited access to relevant info, not that its impossible that you're right.

>>64877746
Why do you want me to feel jealousy? You goning on about other fanbases sounds like a personal problem on your end.

>>64877812
All good chumbie

>>64877741
She hates Bijou for ruining her plan to overlap her to death by being too loving, appreciative of her fans and streaming long hours

>>64878014
Nah bijou sucks. Shes not a fembud

>>64877601
Yes, Kiara lied about everyone being in it. We know. Your inferences are just headcanon.

>>64877601
Why strictly interpret second hand information in the first place? There could be miscommunication between Kiara and Gura which lead her to think something was a confirmation which wasn't, which you're then indirectly interpreting yourself. I'm not saying that happened, but obviously it easily could have. I don't see why you would treat something as a fact in that situation.

>>64878014

>>64878014
Gura was just streaming her usual hours while binging at bit with Holocure. Wtf are you even talking about?

>>64878014
Why did shitposters make this about bijou when Bijou is the only Advent to have an entire hour(or more) unoverlapped every single day Gura streamed? There were two days when Gura did streams as long as bijou and even then on one she ended prebijou so how the fuck was she supposed to know Bijou would end soon? It's just baffling.

>>64874209
NTA, but you seem to be the one that doesn't care about Gura at all. And it's rich for someone like you to say they understand and appreciate Gura when that couldn't be further from the truth.
Everyone can tell that something's wrong, and you're just doing the same thing you always do where you redirect your frustration with her onto her fans. You're even more pathetic than those that complain and whine all thread because at least they're honest about how they feel.

You're here 24/7, yet you pretend to be a passionateless normalfag, free from the desire to see her while admonishing everyone else that does with your impotent sophistry.
You won't ever be the last chumbud, btw.

>>64878237
>I don't see why you would treat something as a fact in that situation.
This is how /vt/ posting works. A board discussing ecelebs is stupid, 4chan is inherently a vile and negative place that turns on anything they see other anons like, outside of the very very niche boards like /ck/ or some shit

>>64878387
Shitting your pants will never be supportive behavior, schizo. You will never understand what it means to care about someone. You only think about yourself, after all.

>>64875387
>Also there's been no indication that she agreed to be a part of this.
If you believe this, then the conclusion you must reach is that Kiara said that Gura would be participating in the project without having asked her. None of them would do that and by every account, it's most likely against company policy to include other members in your projects without their prior approval.

>>64878675

>>64878636
You literally cannot wrap your head around what inferring means, can you? It's hilarious.

>>64878636
It's just a holiday project even if there was a policy like that, it might not apply to something like this. Also Kiara could have just thought making a 30 second video wouldnt be too hard for people to do at the very least. Also Kiara is doing the puppet thing and gonna use Gura soundboard for her part, so technically she will kinda be in it.

>>64878387
But what he said was rrats about the cause of the unusual things retard, maybe the only normalfag here is (you)

I fucked up logging in and 100 dollars worth of cashback didn't go through. I'm sad now

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>>64876531
This entire thread cared about it and (You) probably did as well until you found out that Gura wouldn't be in it today. But you'll definitely deny this because pretending you didn't want to hear from Gura for Christmas is more important to you than admitting you lost an anonymous argument on the Internet, lmao.

Reminder to not give Kiara the attention she craves for. This bitch is growing unhinged day by day

>>64879082
forgot the pic

I love Gura.

>>64869751
Yes. I've never thought of her as anything but an entertainer. That's how it's always been, and how it always will be. If at some point I don't like what she's selling, I'll just go somewhere else. There's no need to complicate it.

>>64877346
>>64877912
>>64878135
>>64878237
NTA, but you're saying that he's inferring that Gura agreed to participate, but here's the dumber inference, which is what your position seems to be:
>Both Cover and Kiara lied about Gura participating in the advent calendar and said she would contribute without ever contacting her.

>>64878925

>>64879082
How about you eat shit from my ass?

>>64879431
me on the right

>>64879431

>>64875498
Chumbuds want to protect and cherish this

>>64879356
No, I'm saying that either, both, are inferences. I'm asking why you'd assume either conclusion in the first place.

>>64879082
The only time most of this thread is even aware Kiara exists is when she mentions Gura.

>>64879356
>inferring my position
Schizochama...the lessons I'm trying to impart on your are pointless. You literally cannot exist outside of the "I must make a decision with the limited info I have" paradigm.

>>64879356
I don't see the big deal in Kiara assuming everyone can set aside 30 seconds to make a video. Last year Kiara said Gura was eager to make the video.

>>64879072
Just wait for the "Antis were the one's hyping it up this whole time, real chumbuds knew it wouldn't happen." line that comes out every time she does shit like this.

>>64879464
I do

>>64879464
ye

>>64879464
You misspelled mating press and ruin. But don't worry, I'll singlehandedly stop dino Gura's from going extinct by plowing that sweet scaly dinussy.

>>64879584
already halfway there with the hot spicy and original 'inference/inferred' argument that's probably gonna climax with 'no real chumbud ever assumed she was showing up at all'

>>64877619
NTA, but while you wait, Gura has moved on and is living her life without you. You are no longer any part of her life while other people are and get to talk to and hang out with her.
While you find other things to do, Gura is laughing, having fun, and enjoying her life, spending time with the people who are important to her, but you aren't one of them and she wants you to know you never will be.

>>64879556
Yeah, last year she cared more

>>64879798
>>64879805
>>64879763
Shes doing her reps and so am I

>>64879763
I just don't assume shit in general and wait to see what actually happens instead. It's actually pretty fucking easy.

>>64879458

>>64879972

>>64879762
excellent! I need a steady supply of Dino meat!

>>64878237
Kiara and Cover wouldn't have announced Gura's participation and even make a big deal about it by highlighting it with a gag in the announcement video without her saying she would participate.
If you really don't understand this, then you are hopeless and are trying to defend Gura in a pathetic attempt to deflect blame away from her in a situation in which all information we have seems to implicate her.

>>64879972
>>64880026

>>64878759
I am not inferring anything when I say that there is no known instance of any member of Hololive or management ever announcing anyone's participation in a project without confirming it with them directly.
You're actually retarded if you think that ever happens.

>>64879798
damn, that one actually hurt..

>>64880194
Stop inferring, virgin

>>64880038
>without her saying she would participate.
Allow me to repeat what I already said:
>There could be miscommunication between Kiara and Gura which lead her to think something was a confirmation which wasn't, which you're then indirectly interpreting yourself. I'm not saying that happened, but obviously it easily could have. I don't see why you would treat something as a fact in that situation.

it really is the promise argument microwaved, jesus

>>64878842
>it might not apply to something like this.
I want you to step back for a second and actually think about what you're saying. You are suggesting that anyone in Hololive announces other people participating in projects before they ever agree to do so. That is unheard of, not to mention extremely rude and inconsiderate to the person who doesn't even know about it.

>>64880288
I think these guys come to /ggg/ with their arguments already written out

>>64880319
I really hope not, that would be pretty sad.

>>64880288
Because it's the same philosophies of people who think of communication as a simple task vs people who think of it as messy and prone to failure

>>64880359
I'd be surprised if they weren't.

Is Gura a lonely loli god?

>>64880430
Gura's skirt really is short...

>>64880430

>>64878920
He said that Gura isn't qualified to be put in a managerial position within Hololive.
That remains true and you would only think otherwise if you were uneducated enough to assume that anyone could be a manager or talent director without any experience or education. You are completely oblivious to the technical and logistical requirements to manage talents within a large media company. This is like saying that he's selling Gura short as an electrical engineer just because she doesn't know calculus or any math involving complex and imaginary numbers.

>>64880038
Kiara lied about liking IRyS, forced Ina to be on her side (fake unity, a lie in some form or another) and never said a word about her wanting to be a REAL singing idol so people did not see the whole picture as to why Kiara and her bitch (Ame) hated Cover so much, which then caused a shit ton of unnecessary drama. Why should I believe this snake's words again?

>>64879190
Can you elaborate on anything she said in this pic that's unhinged or inappropriate?

>>64879331
>replying to that as if it were you
>new IP

>>64880618
You are a giga normalfag because you missed out that thread that had all the important info and no, I won't spoonfeed you

The thread is dumber than usual right now. Please post cute Guras thank

>>64880758
She told her loyal KFPhaggots to make more Gura anti threads with it

>>64880954

>>64881010
thank you nya

The thread is smarter than usual right now. Please post ugly Guras thank

>>64881115

>>64881115

>>64879497
No. I fully understand what you're saying. You're saying we shouldn't infer what happened based upon our limited information. That would be true, of course, if both scenarios were equally or even similarly likely, but they're not. You're dismissing everything that was said by Kiara and Cover by presenting a false dichotomy where the chances of them never actually having contacted her for confirmation is anything above insignificant.
It's disingenuous on your part, and you're basically saying that there's a significant chance that they lied.

These mucho texto posters aren't even pretending anymore

so wait, is wheel chair pajeet, who has a tiny penis even for an indian, posting here, poal and the dox site saying he met gura on gtavcr and that gura is an AI voice and that Kiara paid a girl to pretend to be gura to hang out with in japan and then used an AI voice to make people think it was gura?

>>64880954

>>64879556
Because you don't include other people in your projects unless you have their prior agreement. As socially awkward as Kiara is, not even she would do something like announce other people's participation without them agreeing to it first.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=27GX0ifCLaw&ab_channel=JianaMusic

>>64881476
>not even she would do something like announce other people's participation without them agreeing to it first
Until there's proof otherwise, that's what I'm going to assume she did.

>>64879942
>There's blood pooling at the bottom of this closed door, but why would I assume anything is wrong on the other side? I just don't assume shit in general and wait to see what actually happens instead. It's actually pretty fucking easy.

All the Gura Christmas content we got this month is an overpriced voicepack

>>64879895
Let's be honest, she's probably not the one doing the reps. She's pretty lazy and probably doesn't move much when it happens.

>>64881822
>overpiced
You downloaded it. Quit pretending like the price matters.

>>64881822
We love a findom queen

>>64880621
>schizobabble from a literal egg
lmao

>>64881822
I forgot about that thing, guess I may as well listen to it now before I forget again

Gura is not going to sing padoru padoru with us this Christmas is she?

>>64881743
In that situation you just open the fucking door. It's my door, obviously I'll check it out. If the door was behind a screen vastly removed removed from me, no, I'm not gonna assume I know what's happening on the other side. It could be blood, or maybe someone dropped some fucking beet juice for all I know. I literally can't find out without waiting to see if the door opens anyway, it's not even my door, so yeah, I'll just wait like a sane person.

I think its weird how we have 5 pass users here at any given time yet they never post images.

>>64881973
Haha, sure she won't. It would take a Christmas miracle for her to do something for chumbuds.

>>64881946
I have very, very mixed feelings about this thing
I guess the only thing I feel like posting about it is that her 'voicepack' voice has gotten better

Why is Gura ghosting her fans and colleagues? Are all white girls like this?

>>64882283
Or her managers to stop being useless, but that would also take a miracle.

>>64880900
I didn't miss out on anything. You're argument has deteriorated to "I'm right because she actually is qualified and there's proof of it but I'm not going to say what it is or link to it".
You have literally nothing besides shit like Dimitri Jap using phrases that she has said before. It's like you actually believe in the collective joke that he is secretly her. By the way, he isn't Gura and you are actually retarded if you thought there was any chance of that. The announcement of his completion of his degree program is publicly available and was published on their web page.

Saving the thread is too hard.
No one else wants to post dinos with me

I've been conditioned to just ignore any paragraph written.

>>64882475

>>64880970
How, schizo? Where did she say anything close to that? And Gura did participate in it anyways and by not saying who was going to be participating, she was being considerate to Gura, if anything.
You're a fucking retard.

I just want more swimsuit Guras to add to my goom folder. Is that too much to ask for?

>>64881369
She really loves babies, huh...

>>64882723

>>64882926

>>64882400
She doesn't want to have anything to do with the character she's been playing. Not forever, but for the time being.

>>64882614
Cool, but could you kindly tell your fellow KFP to stop assume things and piss off? also whether Gura wants to participate or not, its none of Kiara's business

>>64882036
So what you're saying is that there are situations where you wouldn't "just not assume shit in general and wait to see what actually happens instead."?
So what causes you do that versus not doing it? Is your requirement based on the amount of evidence? How do you make the distinction of when to start making inferences?
I'll tell you what your answer is because I understand people like you. Your answer is that you don't start making inferences when those inferences lead to a conclusion that's inconvenient for you.

>>64878750
Theres more where that came from

Why do they have to shit up our thread when they have their own containment thread?

>>64883143
>So what causes you do that versus not doing it?
When there's a practical difference that can be made in doing so, in other words: when it's a situation I have control over or responsibility for.

>>64883060
I don't watch Kiara, anon. But I don't hate her either. You seem to however, and it's pretty clear it's entirely based on your own schizo delusions.

>>64883060
>also whether Gura wants to participate or not, its none of Kiara's business
How is that exactly? She asked Gura if she wanted to participate in the family feud collab and Gura clearly said that she did. We don't even know if Gura was the one that was unsure if she was going to change her mind that Kiara was talking about in your pic.
So where is your delusional bullshit coming from, retard? Do you not understand how schizo you're acting?

>>64882474
It wasn't necessarily the litcherally be a manager point that I took issue with, it was all the other retarded shit you said that shows you're a retard incapable of assessing talent

>>64883299
No. I'm pretty sure I was entirely right about you.
Here's why: if what you said just now is true, and you never make inferences in situations you have no control over, then that means you wouldn't do so during something like a movie or tv show. That's absurd. You definitely make inferences everyday even in situations that you don't involve you. If you've ever watched the news or voted, then you've inherently done so as well.

>>64883550
So... proof next thread that Gura would be capable of being a talent manager at a large media company or is qualified for such a position in any way whatsoever?
And no, playing idolm@ster is not proof or qualification, lmao.

I guess I'll head out

>>64883948
adeios

>>64883948

>>64883915
>is not proof or qualification
Give me one good reason why, you little bitch

gura

>>64883915
Gura never played idolmaster.

>>64883772
Yes because that's literally intended, it's a part of storytelling and entertainment. And politics is a situation where you have responsibility and some amount of control. Behind the scenes actions of internet personalities who are real fucking people are not entertainment for you to speculate and assume shit about, nor are they things you have control over or responsibility for. They are not for your entertainment, nor do they involve you. Obsessive gossipy speculation about them is weird, immature, boring, and retarded.