/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

>>64842996
god i want to grape op

>>64842996
That would be subaru.
And it possible because she have someone to tard wrangler her.
Such a shame that mori lack a tard wrangler.

>>64843058
Don't ever compare Mori to the k*rean dyketroon

>>64843058
Kek, absolutely brutal.

>>64843104
mori tard wrangled herself

>>64843147
>>64843058
Deadbeat deflection thread against the fact that Mori lost the civil war against Gura and she failed to destroy idol culture?

>>64842996
I don’t know because I haven’t watched any streams with her in them since 2021

>>64843452
>civil war
The fuck even is that?

>>64843058
Ohnonono cuckbeats how can we respond?!?,

>>64843058
cuckbeats...

>>64843452
civil war? so mori is the reason gura is not active anymore?

>>64843058
You forgot how they call anyone who tells them to fuck off "ESL". Or claim that the thread is a falseflag despite the thread being nothing but white knighting if someone dares to point out Mori's ccv ain't that hot anymore.

>>64845721
so true sister

>>64842996
Her face turn won't be complete until she quits alcohol.

>>64843587
>>64844994
>Now they pretend it didn't even happen.
LMAO.
Gura won.

>>64843058
Outch, too accurate

what the fuck is a face turn? Are you talking about her rigging?

>>64845721
lmao. Someone is mad they are constantly being called out

>>64842996
Yagoo tamed her; his greatest project.

>>64847524
Wrestling terminology.

>>64847661
>Can't even beta bae

>>64843058
KFP did the same exact thing 2-3 years ago.

>>64845810
Won what? The never-streaming award?

>>64848072
Yup he's mad Kek. I'll be sure to enjoy both sololives mori was invited to next month doubly just for you.

>>64848159
>but what about KIARA

>>64848483
Yeah, what about Kiara? Nobody watches her lmao

>>64848423
the leeching continues
so tiresome

>>64842996
She's got go away heat with me brother.

>>64848483
from
>ME ME ME
to
>HER HER HER

>>64848978
English reps

>>64848781
>Mori spends entire month spamming collabs
>Loses to Kiara

>>64843058
lmao this is way too accurate

>>64849242
Any day now

>>64849242
>>64849411
i like how fauna has the least subs yet the most views?
it's like she doesn't need to buy subs nor viewrs

>>64843452
>Mori lost the civil war against Gura
It's more like Mori lost against herself. She pushed hard for the nijification of Holo EN and it completely blew up in her face. The experience left her so disenchanted with Tempus that when Vesper and Magni got terminated she didn't even give a shit.

>>64849177
KWAB

>>64847524
He meant to say "about face" but that was too esoteric usage for his tastes

>>64842996
No. She has not had a face turn at all, never mind one of any size.

I just feel like "not actively trying to kill idol culture" is a pretty fucking low bar to set for someone's so-called "redemption". She may be chill now but her initial attitude is hard to forgive. The negative personality traits it even REQUIRES to think something like "yeaaah i'm gonna burst da bubble and change da culture of this thing that i migrated into and have no idea about, because it suits me" to begin with is crazy.

>>64842996
No?

She's still the same person

>>64842996
Yeah, her face used to be round and now its even more round!

>>64852210
Pretty much this. This "face change" was only caused by her losing nearly half her viewers. If she somehow got it back she'd go back to her old self

>>64842996
No one knows because the only people that watch her have no standards whatsoever, they are either newfags or long-standing cuckbeats and there's no inbetween.

I must say though that Mori's strangely popular in the big discord servers, but they are filled with SEA so I guess it's not much of a surprise.

>>64843058
i still want to have sex with kronii....

>>64852554
No she wouldn’t. She’s in a different space mentally now. Her whole life revolves around hololive, it didn’t before

>>64849837
What is this schizobabble? Let me know so I can ridicule you for it.

>>64854245
oh yeah. She's actually changed this time right? Mori 9.0?

>>64842996
It took for her two favorite homos to graduate at the same time for her to suddenly become """"good"""", fuck off with this shit.

>>64843058
Lesbian correction sex and mental beatings will continue until behavior is corrected

If you count rm stuff, I think Nina takes the cake. And if fishman successfully wrangles the new dragon, that’ll definitely surpass Mori.
Mori was a bit cringe and tried to shill her rm too much. That’s nothing compared to Kana’s shit. But notKana hasn’t successfully rehabilitated herself yet.

>>64849411
Music buff, kiara is #2 of you go based on this

>>64854857
I have no interest in whether she’s changed or whatever. Just looking at the facts that she’s ceased pretty much all rm activities, streams for tons of hours and is always going out with other holos whereas before she was working three jobs and didn’t think holo things would go anywhere. Her life is always hololive now so I can never see her going back to the way she was.

>>64855065
Yeah, and? They're idols. Music is their full-time job. Streaming is just a side-gig.

>>64842996
No. Her "heel" status was largely stupid rrats made by retards. She hasn't really changed at all besides getting more comfortable with streaming and fame in general.

>>64842996
this mori astroturfing is getting fucking annoying. she's only acting nice because jap is carefully trying to patch her and kronii's reputations as being something other than homobeggar rebels against the Holo brand. granted current mori is better than what she was and Jap is doing god's work no doubt, but this is like hearing someone talk shit behind your back and act nice to your face, you know how she really feels still no fucking doubt and you're a fucking moron to fall for it.

>>64860388
I follow her from the start, and this isn't really true IMHO.
I think that, when she started, she was enamored with the idea of being a successful music artist and collabing with the people she always followed and admired.
But eventually she understood that, for a number of reasons, it's often more trouble than it's worth, and that while many fans may sound like rude incel losers while expressing their opinion, they may also have a point.

>>64848188
Don't need to stream when you're the winner who gets 5 views with ease.

>>64861395
Gura didn't won, Chumbuds won.
And their win is frankly more of a loss for Gura: if she streamed more, nobody would admire their loyalty.

>>64843058
unfortunately, idol culture is a thing

>>64861617
I see it as more of a double-layered thing - for the casual twitch indie watchers who are staggeringly ignorant of hololive they might just take such a prize face-value, while it's more of an ironic/pity prize without actually-saying it for everyone else who knows/sees the awkward contradiction such a prize highlights.

>>64861380
He probably didn't mean that. The most common peddled here is "she hates idol culture" or that she hates her fans.

i can't tell if people actually hate mori and kronii or if its just shitposting, like with gura not streaming (which is true)

>>64861380
i think this is the correct read. i would add tho, that her self destructive arc probably taught her to appreciate whatever diehard deadbeats remain.

>>64861617
Deadbeat cope like this is always strange.

>>64861100
Mori is the only one who actively tried to push the HoloPro angle for the longest time; Kronii was guilty of accepting pretty much every collab invite thrown her way, and people lashed at her in particular after a year of bait threads where they convinced themselves she was a man-hating tranny even though in reality she even made a point of saying she'd be open to collabing with the EN Stars a month before the DBD collab.

>>64842996
While she hasn't redeemed herself, I hope she does one day. It will make me feel less guilty when I cum to her fanart.

>>64862381
>Taking anything said on this board seriously

Bruh

>>64842996
She was better as a heel

>>64843058
KEK

>>64842996
she has only crawled back to the stage where I'll still watch a collab if she's in it

>>64848932
Being invited to high profile events is leeching? I think they might be right when they call you ESL since you obviously don't know the meaning of words.

>>64861100
Pretty much this. Mori had like what five "redemption arcs" now? The only reason this one is lasting this long is because this time a lot of people genuinely gave up on her for good and it's reflected in her abysmal solo ccv. Before she used to go right back to her antics as soon as her views and income recovered. You'd have to be an idiot to give her another chance.
As for the astroturf threads, the bullshit you posted by deadbeats in these is hilarious. I saw someone claimed she hadn't collabed with males simce vesper and magni left. They actually think people don't pay attention to JP stars. Or that people aren't aware of anything that happens outside of EN channels.

>>64842996
qrd?

>>64879003
>Five redemption arcs
No, only 2. One was before the condom money yab and the other is happening right now, The tempus collab ''yab'' would'nt count if we take into account she already collabed with JP stars, tard wrangled her audience about 0 shipping with them and never got the other girls to join the mixed collabs because we have confirmation from BOTH BRANCHES that management was the one organizing most of them, not the talents and that tempus was HIGHLY encouraged to be part of them.

Fall:
>I am the rapper bitch idols are lame Arc
Redemption:
>finding out her rapper friends are a bunch of leeches, releasing end of a live and putting more work into the Holobox
Fall
>Condom money supachat, getting drunk enough to reply to cuck art
Redemption:
>Not antogonizing anyone anymore, releasin music and overall having fun with Holomens while doing other stuff on RM
That's all I got so far

>>64842996
NOPE

>>64884027
I think the realization that her indie friends and the people she looked up to weren't happy for her but were jealous and salty that she shot past them was one of the biggest blows she received. it was only matched when she found out the e-celebs she liked were only using her for clout and to worm their way into more holo collabs

>>64842996
yes