/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

>「DAYBREAK FRONTLINE」 - 音乃瀬奏 (cover) *new*
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BWexRFqs3Wg
>「名前のない怪物」 - 音乃瀬奏 (cover)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=45ZfAdZuaok

*GENERAL NUMBERFAG SITES*
>https://playboard.co/en/
>http://ikioi-ranking.com/
>https://vrabi.net/
>https://www.vstats.jp
>https://live-ranking.userlocal.jp/vtuber-ranking

Hololive sites
>https://vt.poi.cat/
>https://www.hololyzer.net/youtube/index.html
>https://trackholo.live/en/
>https://www.hololive-songs.com/

Nijisanji sites
>https://niji-mado.web.app/stats/hourly
>https://twitter.com/2434rankings
>https://twitter.com/2434subscriber
>https://www.nijiuta.com/

Twitch
>https://sullygnome.com/
>https://twitchtracker.com/
>https://stats.roki.sh/

Full list at https://pastebin.com/nCGZL1Lp

I love Ina!

[Ina news]
She saw her award for best art vtuber, but she doesnt consider herself an art vtuber

* FINAL TALLY OF THE DAY *

>44,336: Kuzuha (Nijisanji)
>37,793: Kuzuha (Nijisanji)
>33,536: Kiara (Hololive)
>29,071: Marine (Hololive)
>25,094: Pekora (Hololive)
>24,537: Kanae (Nijisanji)
>23,605: Subaru (Hololive)
>22,602: Lauren (Nijisanji)
>21,795: AZKi (Hololive)
>21,729: Aki (Hololive)
>20,562: Okayu (Hololive)
>20,418: Fuwamoco (Hololive)
>19,076: Aki (Hololive)
>17,610: Kronii (Hololive)
>16,850: NeruMero (Indie)
>16,568: Mio (Hololive)
>15,839: Luca (Nijisanji)
>15,356: Shu (Nijisanji)
>14,799: Kanade (Hololive)
>14,477: Fuwa (Nijisanji)
>12,900: Lize (Nijisanji)
>12,440: Fubuki (Hololive)
>12,278: Watame (Hololive)
>11,787: Hajime (Hololive)
>11,281: Met (VSPO)
>10,947: Luna (Hololive)
>10,807: Hinano (VSPO)
>10,596: Koyori (Hololive)
>10,282: Matsuri (Hololive)
>10,157: Calliope (Hololive)
>10,108: Fubuki (Hololive)

Can someone give me an QRD on an random subject again?

>>64729295
>>64729268

>>64729279
>DECEMBER 2023 GOLDS
1) Aqua (Hololive) - 57,513 - Birthday Reverse Totsumachi
2) Hololive (Hololive) - 80,756 - HoloX 3D Live
3) Kuzuha (Nijisanji) - 54,582 - League of Legends vs k4sen (w/ Shaka)
4) Marine (Hololive) - 82,999 - Sankisei Game of Life
5) Miko (Hololive) - 63,915 - The Exit 8
6) Pekora (Hololive) - 74,623 - Sololive Free Portion
7) Mio (Hololive) - 73,070 - Anniversary 3D Live
8) Shion (Hololive) - 84,629 - Birthday 3D Live
9) Korone (Hololive) - 56,638 - Splatoon Tournament
10) Marine (Hololive) - 68,888 - The Exit 8
11) Kuzuha (Nijisanji) - 48,215 - VCR GTA
12) Kuzuha (Nijisanji) - 58,854 - VCR GTA
13) Ayame (Hololive) - 121,015 - Birthday 3D Live
14) Pekora (Hololive) - 46,053 - Return Stream
15) Marine (Hololive) - 100,551 - Breaking Watermelon With Rubberbands (w/ Pekora)
16) Towa (Hololive) - 52,740 - Mario Kart Tournament Roster Reveal
17) Kuzuha (Nijisanji) - 44,336 - VCR GTA

>PER COMPANY
13x: Hololive
4x: Nijisanji

>PER STREAMER
4x: Kuzuha
3x: Marine
2x: Pekora
1x: Aqua, Ayame, Hololive, Korone, Miko, Mio, Shion, Towa


>2023 GOLDS
>PER COMPANY
250x: Hololive
78x: Nijisanji
11x: Indie
6x: Neo-Porte, VSPO

>PER STREAMER
73x: Pekora
30x: Miko
24x: Marine
17x: Kuzuha
14x: Hololive
11x: Subaru
10x: Nijisanji
9x: Suisei
8x: Toya
7x: Aqua
6x: Hal, Mio
5x: Iroha, Towa, Yashiro
4x: Chiroru, Fuwa, Koyori, Lamy, Leos, Lui, NeruMero, Okayu, Shiina, Shion
3x: Flare, Fubuki, Korone, Watame
2x: Aki, Ayame, Botan, Chloe, Fuwamoco, Hajime, Hinano, Ibrahim, Maimoto, Mel, Noel, Polka, Salome, Tsukasa
1x: Air, Beni, Choco, Gaku, Gura, Gundou, Haachama, Hibari, Himawari, Hololive English, Ina, Kaede, Kanade, Kanata, Kanato, Kiara, Kobo, Kronii, Laplus, Lauren, Lize, Luna, Met, Mito, Mori, Mumei, Mysta, Nene, Nose, Nozomi, Nui, Ponto, Qpi, Raden, Rikiichi, Rion, Roco, ROF-MAO, Ryushen, Youko

Update on the Myth friends with u sales?

sub 7k drawing stream
grim

current numbers

>>64729295
Iroha sent a SC to Roberu

We already knew this was going to happen

>>64729295
BASED

>>64729295
It has been a month since the valo vsai and cjgg never had an after party

*FINAL EN TALLY OF THE DAY*

>12/17 DAILY TALLY
33,536: Kiara (Hololive)
20,418: FuwaMoco (Hololive)
17,610: Kronii (Hololive)
15,839: Luca (Nijisanji)
15,356: Shu (Nijisanji)
10,157: Mori (Hololive)
8,143: Filian (Indie)
6,593: Kiara (Hololive)
6,155: Meloco (Nijisanji)
5,720: Selen (Nijisanji)


>EN GOLDS FOR DECEMBER 2023
1) Selen (Nijisanji) - 11,895 - Birthday Concert
2) Amelia (Hololive) - 12,143 - Unarchived Karaoke
3) FuwaMoco (Hololive) - 15,827 - Karaoke
4) Selen (Nijisanji) - 21,694 - Apex Tournament Announcement (w/ Regis & Axel)
5) FuwaMoco (Hololive) - 21,293 - FuwaMoco Morning
6) Bijou (Hololive) - 11,662 - The Exit 8
7) FuwaMoco (Hololive) - 20,286 - FuwaMoco Morning
8) FuwaMoco (Hololive) - 18,386 - Hollow Cocoon
9) FuwaMoco (Hololive) - 22,983 - FuwaMoco Morning
10) Ina (Hololive) - 39,746 - 3D Live
11) Kotoka (Nijisanji) - 20,545 - Handcam Cooking (w/ Yashiro)
12) FuwaMoco (Hololive) - 19,523 - FuwaMoco Morning
13) FuwaMoco (Hololive) - 23,159 - The Exit 8
14) FuwaMoco (Hololive) - 16,240 - FuwaMoco Morning
15) FuwaMoco (Hololive) - 35,593 - Christmas Tree Decoration
16) FuwaMoco (Hololive) - 13,630 - FuwaMoco Morning
17) Kiara (Hololive) - 33,536 - 3D Live

>PER COMPANY
14x: Hololive
3x: Nijisanji

>PER STREAMER
10x: FuwaMoco
2x: Selen
1x: Amelia, Bijou, Ina, Kiara, Kotoka

>POINTS PER STREAMER (gold = 5pts, silver = 3pts, bronze = 1pt)
69p: FuwaMoco
13p: Selen
12p: Baelz
10p: Bijou
8p: Fauna, Ina
6p: Amelia, Mori
5p: IRyS, Kiara, Kotoka
3p: Millie
2p: Shiori
1p: Kronii

>>64729476
Oh new debuts today? Pass the link, I want to see future trainwrecks.

>>64729554
>2023 EN GOLDS
>PER COMPANY
272x: Hololive
73x: Nijisanji
5x: Holostars
1x: Idol

>PER STREAMER
41x: FuwaMoco
32x: Fauna
28x: Mori, Mumei
25x: Gura
19x: IRyS
16x: Bijou, Ina
15x: Baelz, Kronii
14x: Mysta
13x: Amelia, Kiara
9x: Vox
6x: Selen
5x: Nerissa
4x: Pomu, Ren, Shu
3x: Hololive English, Luca, Nina, Shiori
2x: Alban, Doppio, Finana, Fulgur, Ike, Millie, Wilson
1x: Aia, Bandage, Enna, Elira, Flayon, Kotoka, Kyo, Luxiem, Octavio, Petra, Regis, Rexford, Roca, Rosemi, Scarle, Sonny, Vesper, Victoria


>2023 POINTS PER STREAMER (gold = 5pts, silver = 3pts, bronze = 1pt)
347p: FuwaMoco
304p: Fauna
238p: Mumei
229p: Mori
191p: IRyS
183p: Ina
165p: Baelz
152p: Bijou
134p: Gura
125p: Kronii
117p: Kiara
105p: Mysta
104p: Amelia
77p: Vox
75p: Luca
60p: Nerissa
44p: Selen
40p: Shiori
37p: Shu
29p: Pomu
24p: Nina
21p: Millie, Ren
20p: Fulgur
19p: Enna, Ike
17p: Sonny
15p: Hololive English, Kotoka, Uki
13p: Finana
11p: Axel
10p: Alban, Doppio, Elira, Wilson
9p: Petra, Vesper
7p: Regis
6p: Bandage, Kyo, Rexford, Rosemi
5p: Aia, Flayon, Luxiem, Octavio, Roca, Scarle, Victoria
4p: Bringer, Magni
3p: Bettel, Claude, Crimzon, Goldbullet, Hakka
2p: Meloco
1p: Kunai, Maria, Shinri, Pippa, Poko, Reimu

>>64728693
Nothing, small corpos that don't take off especially after a lot of members leaving is just a sinking ship, a graduation especially that early have fans and talents very demoralized

>>64729295
>can someone QRD me
>he wants the quick Reandown
Haha, guess it's time to not hold back
>orphaned and adopted into a Noble family
>final student of a legendary swordsman
>secret son of the mysterious big bad who's actually good
>such a chad that he not only adds every woman to his ever-expanding harem but also the men
>his sister and her friend (who is the royal princess)'s vaginas becomes waterfalls at the sheer mention of his name
>chosen to pilot an ancient super mecha
>masters and can fully control his *psh nothin personell kid" demonic powers
>wields a tachi and can teleport behind you
>beats one of the most powerful swordsmen in history that's hyped up in Trails in the Sky
>grows up to become a teacher, can romance his underage students
>just saying "haha" makes everybody drop their pants for him
>uses the power of friendship to defeat the true antagonist interdimensional hatred curse that appears at the last second
>is technically royalty, his biological father is the reincarnation of an ancient Emperor
>breaks up budding romances between other characters that were developing in the third game because everybody sucks his dick in the fourth game
>even the protagonists of previous games hype him up
>kills himself in a noble self sacrifice with his fujobait boyfriend to break a curse but not really because the even bigger bigger villains rewrite the timeline to get the true ending
>becomes one of the strongest characters on the continent
>has the option to cuck Estelle away from Joshua, Tita away from Agate, Tio away from Lloyd, etc.
>now a version of himself from an alternate timeline is trying to kill him because he's too chad
>awakens a new inner power to combat this alternate self, giving him heterochromia in the process
>tops Japanese official popularity polls, brought his franchise to the spotlight,
>made it so that the majority of the franchise's games are about him
>is the writer's favorite character, writer goes on to call the previous protagonists embarrassing

>>64729625
sounds like kawaii. their thread is so depressing most of the time.

>a gen 1 from vreverie is tweeting about being afraid of losing everything she has worked for
Vrevierie is falling apart

>>64729295

>>64729625
And they have two right off the bat. Cyberlive is dead, Kawaiipro is reclining, Idol is smeared and that's just the ones on top of my head

>>64729732
Really? I never looked at their numbers but I thought Kawaii was in a good spot. They pulled off a live live, even if they did take a cheap shot at being the "first" in USA, and aren't they owned by Sony? At least they should have to worry about financial backing.

>>64729337
>>64729483
>>64729518
>>64729523
>>64729701
Thanks.
Also I find Rean anons endearing.

>>64729885
Quick, Idol, release more contract numbers so people will think you're revolutionizing the industry

[some] smallcorpos win, they just have to find the right grift
https://twitter.com/pipkinpippa/status/1468066184176324613

15/15

>>64729732
They're thread is mostly about Nene being a mastermind and wishing she gets poached by Hololive, also occasional seething At NijiEN especially for one of the reasons for their downfall and yet they still collab with their other members

>>64729893
Their rockstar 3rd gen all mutinied and Nene is the only real relevant one there. Their 4th gen came pre-groomed from kawaiicord and I think one of them has her bf as a chat mod.

>>64729880
And AZKi sex imgs should be mandatory in every thread. Regardless of horse races.

>>64729864
Does someone have a wiki with all the micro corpos?
Like 5 of them debut just the last 2 months. They're hard to keep track of.
Which one was Vreverie?

Please repost Magni and Vesper’s graduation notice. I need comfort in these trying times.

Another day, another microcorpo imploding.

Effortless 13k for queen Mouse

>>64729476
I wonder how many of the girls in this gen tried for hololive or 2434

>>64729986
5/15

>>64730003
>>64706936

>>64729997
Vreverie has that one purple girl Ophelia Midnight that collabed with Kiara and does Holo voice impressions. IDK any of their other members.

>>64729295
The theory of "The Wealth of Nations" is one which posits the reason for why some countries become wealthy and have high quality of life, and why some don't.
The main reason they cite is the growth and development of Institutional Incentives, and those countries which have Institutions that are "inclusive" to the greater majority of the nation are more likely to create a society which will develop and generate wealth for the average citizen.
In contrast to that, countries with poor development have trended towards "Extractive Institutional Bias," which is when a country's elite classes develop societal structures where the majority of the nation work to generate wealth that, by and large, is centralized in the coffers of the heads of state.
If a country is to do well, it will develop a set of Inclusive Institutions, which is generally portrayed as a set of legal codes which honor the property rights of citizens by and large, which incentivizes them to develop their property and generate personal wealth, safe in the knowledge that said wealth will not be arbitrarily taken by those in power, while also allowing for the funding of the government via things such as regular and universal taxation laws so that said institutions can be strengthened. Furthermore, it posits that Liberal Democratic nations, by their nature of being an Inclusive government structure of the whole voting population, are the best suited to generate prosperity and wealth for nations, because of the much higher barriers for anyone who wants to arbitrarily seize the wealth of the citizen population, or gate the population at large out of economic institutions that may grant them wealth arbitrarily.
I've made posts about how this correlates to Vtuber organizations before, and how Vtuber organizations who have an Inclusive culture will thrive, whereas Extractive models of corporate culture will lead a Vtuber corpo to collapse in on itself over time, but the greater theory is in the book, which I recommend to anyone who likes numbers and the context behind number growth.

>>64729611
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lWHwaPsJGEY&list=PLFwztMZ1xyUibCos8lskBIxYt_YkOY1F0
Phase Gen 3, starts in half an hour

>>64730047
There's no reason not to apply for Holo even if it's a longshot. Niji is debatable, but for someone truly desperate to get their foot in the door it's an option.

>>64730154
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xTSf5FDzJtg
watchalong starting right now

>>64729997
None of them in that picture, this is the god tier model that is graduating, vrev gen 2 debuted in april i think

I thought Fauna was gonna stream today?

>>64730162
I know we like to shit on Nijisanji here but obviously even in its current state NijiEN is a million times better than any non Holo/Niji EN corpo

>>64729893
A lot of them are on the edge of 2 views, only Nene is relevant yet she still gets lower 3 view sometimes. Idol and Phase surpassed them, all they have is Nene's bloated subs and even Rin Penrose shot past her

Oh cool, Ina took inspiration from FWMC

Mori will have the highest ccv lc pov

>>64730195
>Pippa not there
what's the point

>>64730093
Oh yeah.
Too bad for her, she came into making content about HoloEN after the boom ended.
Even Aruran was getting 4k in its prime, talking about English memes and relating it to Holo and HoloEN.

>>64730265
i think that actually IS the point, this is hosted by the CGDCT team

>>64730218
She said she might stream today.

>>64730218
https://youtu.be/-lmIBCGLvlE?t=15748
I mean she said she was going to but...

>>64730248
FWMC are in a league of their own after all

>>64730216
Her voice is really sweet but mature too.
Next model might not be the same.

>>64729295
Broken windows theory is true but everyone is taking wrong lessons from it, it's not about the physical state of environment but actual pursuit of it by populace

>>64730265
Phase is desperately trying to do everything they can to not be seen as "The Pippa Corpo" because their management is not a fan of that being their brand.
They don't want to be Hololive "Idol" style, but they don't want to be "yabbit" style, they just want to cultivate the concept of
>cute weirdo girls streaming to their niches
and are stuck with their top talent whose niche interest is "Internet Blood Sports"

>>64729476
Whats the appeal of being in one of these new gen debuts in a non-power corpo? They all seem to be locked into fractions of existing members CCV and for most of these small corpos the success rate is near nil. I think in Phase2 the only one doing well is Wontons girl? At least that reincarnation had a good reason for it
Even in Holo all First Army are from Gens0-3, if you dont get in on the ground floor it seems your best shot is to be a Salome-level one hit wonder

Honestly, none of the new girls phase me.

>>64730348
The criminology theory or the economic theory, because if I share a thread with a fucking Austrian School Economist I'm gonna shit

>>64730265
>They're slowly isolating Pippa from all the PR stuff and the other girls
Kek

I hate that it is going to be Phase that will take over NijiENs spot in western vtubing

>>64730265
I don't think fish man wants Pippa to be the role model for anyone else in phase, she's on her own island.

>>64729295
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VY0r_Ksn6y4
Ado is closer to speaking an English sentence than actually vtubing.

>>64730412
The hamster and moo girl have good voices / arent shit voice actors so far

is this Dizzy girl wearing literal shibari

>>64730365
Pippas never really pursued these event host collabs afaik, best you'll get from her is tag teaming with Tenma or another member with some numbers when they land an important outside collab with a bigger indie/corpo

>>64730248
>Ina took inspiration from FWMC
lol no retard

>>64730472
Nice try phasekek, no matter how shit nijikekd are, as long as NijiJP is alive, they'll forever be bigger than you

>>64730472
Why? They have a no male branch policy and decent talents like panko and jelly.

>>64729893
Sony is Prism, for all the good it does them.
They did get bought by some other Japanese corp, but if it's improved anything there is little evidence so far.

>>64730531
Yes and she is former management (she didnt want to hire pippa and shiina)

Hello.

The way the Phase thread seems to work to me is theyre mostly Pippa fans and they like the other girls if theyre Pippas friends or Pippa-aligned, you dont need to all out leech her like Koyori does just be somewhat aligned and publicly approving of her, iirc when Wontons Girl debuted she sucked up to Pippa and that got her on their good side even as they made Wontons jokes

>>64730265
>>64730452
Wasn't it a different girl who repredented the Fillian Award show when they won?

>>64730162
>There's no reason not to apply for Holo
Honor, knowing you didn't kneel, being able to say your too good for hololive without it sounding like a massive cope

2024 will be her year

>>64730664
Lia

>>64730293
>Lia
>CGDCT
Liacuck...

>>64730734
Lia is a good girl

>>64730620
>>64730662
Go to /pcgia/ if you wanna escape the pippafags.

>>64730520
I've seen some posts about the moo girl here, and idk mate, like the dogs thing got me honestly.

>>64730662
>Wontons jokes
Qrd?

>phasecucks shilling their new low 3views in # thread
what level of grim is this?

>>64730724
Why does this girl have a split of her own? They got cucked and got bullied out?

>>64730754
you’re thinking of the wrong girl

>>64730675
That's stupid. I don't put it beyond some people though. Nor do I doubt there's plenty of people who don't apply because they don't think they're good enough or don't want to be rejected/ignored.

>>64730003

>>64730803
They have a debut, what else interesting is going on today?

>>64730811
It just takes 1 really dedicated person to maintain a split.

>>64730811
They're the teamates of PC from what I've seen.

Fauna doesn’t deserve her fans, they should be fans of me instead.

>>64730427
The first one
The second one is also true though

>>64730265
she's losing to kobo. it's the most humiliating thing they've ever experienced, so they're too embarrassed to invite her.

Filian just said that Depressed Nousagi wrote the script for the vtuber lore part of the show
makes his SEETHE even funnier

>>64730910

>THE GRADUATING TALENT POSTS THE PLS OF THE OTHER GENMATES
IT IS FUCKING HAPPENING GUYS
DEFCON 1 AT VREVERIE THEY ARE IMPLODING

>>64730910
You joke but she literally doesn't deserve fans.

>>64730962
The absolute state of this shitshow

>>64730390
The biggest appeal right out the gate, is locking in a stable paycheck.
Corpos bring at least some form of guaranteed income, at least. I'm pretty sure they pay you at least a little bit before you make Youtube money, and that's a huge deal for someone who is looking for a job.
They also lock in at least A FORM of a fanbase, so you have some eyes on your for sure. That's more than an indie can get. It also locks in the capacity to get merch, even if it doesn't guarantee it.
The more long-term stuff is hoping that you can help build a corpo up into something big. Everyone wants to build a tower like Hololive did. Corpos like Phase aren't there, not even fucking close, but they're building. And that's something you can pour hope into, especially if you want to build it up and gain the status of an "OG Member."

That Lia girl seems a bit autistic.

>>64730218
Why doesn't this Fauna have sticks?

15 minutes to go

>>64730990
>Wnglish
What?

>>64730990
oh it was 2 days ago, but still the point stands

>>64730962

>>64730838
Probably a lot of people would rather not apply knowing they'd be rejected. Dunno if it is an ego thing or a self-esteem thing. Most people aren't Biboo, who was certain she'd get in no matter how many times she applied and worked at it.

Holy shit I love Shiori Novella of Hololive English -Advent- !!!!

>>64730616
No wonder the corp she managed failed.

>>64730962
Disgusting.

>>64731040
This is dog Fauna she's not a deer in this version.

>>64730125
Sounds interesting, albeit maybe it's not a universal truth when it comes to nations, other factors maybe weight a bit being in the right place and at the right time matters a lot. But it's an interesting way to analyse vtuber corpos. Not every corpo that thrives for equality between their members will suceed, but probably the one who have the biggest success of them has this mindset.

>>64731039
Apparently her shrink assumed she was already diagnosed.

One of the worst games she’s ever played on stream followed by two days of ghosting right before leaving for three weeks
Saplings eating good

>>64730962
Sorry, but that bait is too stupid for me to believe. Here's your participation (You)

I know I'm late for this but, ririka status?

>>64731064
Empty slot is too powerful

I'm waiting for Fauna's break so I can watch Fauna.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AjXmcXiaBQI
Meme song slowing down, thought it could reach 1Mil before 2024.

>>64731206
Shit's fucked.

>>64730811
Unironically they got cucked yes

>>64731253
>>64731206
Saplings are pathetic

>>64731093
She wasn't certain, she's just built different. I never heard of a casual viewer turned vtuber who dedicated their entire career shift, meticulously honing herself just to get a shot at joining her oshis

>>64731206
waiting one more week so I can watch Fauna from 3 weeks ago

>>64730990
THEY ARE ALREADY STREAMING ON THEIR NEW ACCOUNT BEFORE EVEN ANNOUNCING THEIR GRADUATIONS
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d0hWOmAd1uY
live right now
roru

>>64730811
They got cucked on stream and it was incredibly awkward for everyone involved except the cucker.

>>64731151
The biggest factor isn't "equality of outcome," but "equality of treatment under the law." Or in the Vtuber corpo's case, "equality of corporate attention."
Basically, if you see a situation like Kawaii where "Nene gets whatever she wants, everyone else begs for scraps" is law for a while, it's rough going for that corpo, whereas Hololive's "if you're in our group, you WILL get outfits, you WILL get 3D, your success has almost NO BEARING on that," mindset leads to an audience that's more willing to spread around between girls, as they see them all as being of a similar value.
I don't think the Holobox could exist if it weren't for this equal-ish treatment, the willingness to put money and the spotlight into the low-end and mid-end talents, even if they aren't the main money drivers.

>>64731376
>streamed since 12 days ago.
Also, it took Gundou and Coco like 6 months to get new models since they decided to graduate and this girl already has a fully functional new model before graduating?

>>64731376
Sir, this is numbers thread. These are no numbers.

>>64731332
There were for sure, probably a majority of them but they got rejected, it just happens to be that, the ones that joined earlier are grifters or are already veterans but not particularly obsessed with Hololive and would rather apply to both Niji and Holo

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I2QqUWJ7W7k
Drink some beer with Mio.

>>64731376
Apparently that Ophie girl is the breadwinner of that corpo. And I only recognized it was her cause I saw some of her KFP regulars in chat.

>>64731040
Faunya doesnt have horns

3k watching Phase debut program
2k in the waiting room for the debut

By the way, Lord of the Board's matchup in our bracket is happening now, it'll decide if we get to keep moving up, have to do sudden death, or just get dropped

>>64731521
>he thinks numbers is about numbers
this is the watercooler on /vt/

>>64731575
What was Idol's last Gen debut peaks?

>>64731533
Holo or nothing as they say.

>>64731420
Yes the treatment is a big factor for Holo success, remember a lot of the Gen0 girls (Miko, Suisei in INNK) were huge busts out of the gate but once they worked their way into the box they flourished
The top dogs have enough going for them in network effects and other factors (you ever notice that all First Army - except PekoMiko now- are friends with each other? Even Aqua and Pekora reconciled a half-decade grudge for the sake of numbers) that they dont need the special treatment

>>64730050
Actual real status in no particular order

CGDCT girls we love:
Kiara
Ina
Gura
IRyS
Fauna
Shiori
Biboo
Nerissa
FWMC
Mumei

In probation [subject to change]:
Bae (ends June 1st 2024) sentence reduced

Ame (ends June 1st 2024) sentence reduced

Kronii (ends June 1st 2027) sentence reduced

Mori (ends September 1st 2029) extended due to homo anniversary collab

Offenses:
Minor homo interaction (twitter replies or follows/hearts) = 2 weeks
Nijihomos+Starshomos interaction = extra 3 month probation
Flirting = 1 year
Off collab = 3 years

Appeals:
Refusing to participate when invited or potentially invited = - 6 months
Not Following homo debuts = - 6 months
Unfollowing, Unliking, Disliking, Cropping, Editing out homos = - 1 year

>>64729465
>>64729657
>>64730556
>>64731079
ZA MOST

>>64731420
If you want to stretch the liberal democracy analogy really thin, complaints about ID or EN being shafted or the homos getting special treatment mirrors complaints about a country’s shortcomings in living up to the promise of “equality under the law.”

>>64731690
I propose that vshojo interactions be added to the list of offenses

>>64731690
Question for you anon:
You took that from someone else, I think, but did you ever tabulate the actual offenses under that guideline ruleset to see if it lines up with the length of the sentence?

>>64731206
Same. I would prefer a 1hr stream everyday over a 4hr stream every 3 days. We'll at least get 21 days of non-stop Fauna during the break.

>>64731690
I approve of this message.

>>64731376
So what's wrong with her old corpo?

>>64731718
this thread is the most rent free thread in the entire board

Where is the sticky thread?

In this moment, I am Phase Euphoric. Not because of any phony Hologod's blessing. But because, I am enlightened by my smallcorpo intelligence

>>64731690
not a nijinig btw

>>64731788
who knows she talked about knowing that she can go far but feels like she is being held back so I guess corpo management fucking up as always

>>64731786
dude I'm howling laughing at the hairy fucking hands

This is gonna be the biggest Phase stream in that company's history
And there's five of them

>>64731420
There was equality under the law in kawaii, but the "law" was tied to numbers, and Nene was the only one who got any before (and after) gen 3.

>>64731760
I mean it was pretty obvious, need better production next time around.

1 girl vs 2 massive corpos dayo

>>64731900
Needs to hit 7k to match Pippa's foot stream

>>64731900
pippa feet stream got 7k though

Which one is the fox?

>>64731690
based

>>64731376
Oh for fucks sake.

>>64731987
>>64732030
Just got past the loading screen and we're on this now
It's on the tally now btw, what are we using to track this? VRabi doesn't have it, I'm pretty sure

>>64731420
Nene debuts some new costume or chibi 3d like every other month at this point while everyone else gets jack shit.
From what I remember, they have a points system that is similar to Niji's ticket system.

This beats Pippa feet, no?

>>64732116
vstats will track it

>>64731974
>subathon
if only ProJirad labeled his scam as such, he would have gotten away with it.

>>64732149
Pippa feet was 7k. It does beat her most recent stream

>>64732149
still climbing so it's on track to beat it yeah

>>64729625
StarsENfags never recovered

>>64731690
I KNEEL!

Is Phase's strategy of debuting more basic vtubers instead of doubling down on Pippa-style streamers a good one?

>>64731718
I think the last time we talked about niji was the Selen tournament but that was mostly falseflagging from sisters.

>>64729455
>>64729626
>>64729968
>>64730021
>>64730270
>>64730367
>>64730663
>>64731023
fresh seethe from /MANS/

>>64731747
No the offense will only happen if it's a collab or interaction with someone Kuro (Zen is too much of a question mark desu and barely has a personality above Neuro a literal AI).
>>64731749
The sentences were transferred over due to there being too much to sift through in order to adjust them. Appeals have already been introduced as a way to alleviate sentences also.
>>64731867
New Council took over to be more fair due to Nijinogs abusing it for antiposting.

13K with a beautiful graph for Miosha

>>64731533
Maybe the rrat about people who apply to both holo and nijisanji get neither as the big 2 collude.

>5k+
Have we ever had a mini corpo debut make the "EN tally" before?

>>64732309
Why are they seething again? Some of you guys sent that grim members opening for Armis? Kek

>>64731900
The apparent end of the Holo Dark Age has removed the small corpo debut buff. They're not all presumed to be girls HoloEN fucked up and didn't hire because the company is faggot-obsessed.
It's still true, but people don't think so anymore.

the phase dragon is much less cringe than her preview clip

>>64732309
mucho texto, not reading.

>>64731760
>the months of efforts in question

>>64730264
Nah it’ll be Biboo because of “Le gamer of EN” even though KoboMori did significantly better than Advent.

>>64732234
but combine it with the watchalong

Award buff doko?

>>64732428
mad about uproar outfits mostly

>>64732428
Bettel teasing something on twitter I guess.

>>64731094
we know demi

6.3k on the channel. 2k+ on the watchalong? so like 8.3k plus who ever is watching on filian's stream

>>64732394
idol peaked at 7.3k

>>64732370
Doubt it. Most of the relevant indies end up in one corpo or the other, and the chances that none of them applied to both is pretty low. I doubt there's many people kicking around in the vtuber world that haven't at least tossed one application at Holo since 2020. Also that's probably actually outright illegal.

>>64732546
This is the award buff

she sounds like a fucking child

What's the verdict is it HER?

>>64732432
>removed the small corpo debut buff.
Then that firmly puts Phase out of the "Small Corpo" sector now, because this is what she's at right now, this number is inconcievable for any corpo that isn't literally top of the top.
Mind you, it's also FAR, FAR below the real top corpos, but it's FAR, FAR above the small corpos
Phase is almost certainly in the tier under NijiEN, above IDOL. May be it's own tier now.

>>64730675
Just lie.

>Incels said Phase is in the same level as Niji.
>Niji gets 50-90k on debuts when Phase gets 5k

Incelbros... it's over

>>64732629
Yes, it's very obvious it's her. Just look up clips.

lol I thought that discussion earlier would have sisters fuming

Honestly would've been an easy phase cripple gold today if it wasn't for EN lethal company later

>>64732565
Graduation baiting so he can get his stream over 5k.

>>64732585
idol got murdered. 9k total on youtube

>holo head

>>64732637
It's a fucking debut stream. Niji got 25k on theirs. And people said Phase was competitive with Niji?

>>64732593
>and the chances that none of them applied to both is pretty low.
Some of the newer nijien waves feel like they applied to both.

I wonder if we will ever have someone switching sides.

>>64732769
>ignoring the fact that phase has routinely outshined nijiEN lately
no one was saying phase was beating nijiJP lmao.

>>64732769
Their ceiling is far lower than NijiEN's for sure
Their floors are growing to be on par

>>64732637
I guess we could call Phase and Idol medium corpos at this point. The scale between them and Holo/Niji and even Vshojo is immense though, and medium makes it sound like they're halfway there, which they aren't even close to.

>>64732627
You had a chance to watch her for years.

>>64730367
>certain someone's stream which gave the gachi's full ammunition to antagonize the remaining stars. (And for some reason multiple indie vtubers defended this dumb avoidable mistake.)
what's this?

>>64732673
Post that on Phase nijikek we don't care about Phase here

>>64732637
>celebrating 6k debut with massive ad shilling
do phasesharts really

>>64732637
wait how does this compare to previous debuts by this corpo?

Does anyone have a list of previous debut numbers?

>>64732585
Idol had a new gen?

>>64732957
Bummer, I guess?

>>64732774
Hell Shu applied to both, because he's a fucking retard.

>>64733018
I don't think multiple indies defended that

Are her art assets done by the same person that did Bae's? They look very similar.

>>64731726
I’m sure you could probably spin Holo and Niji into Keynesian demand driven vs neoliberal supply side.

>>64732927
If we only scale on ENs:
>HololiveEN is a AAA-rated security
>NijiEN, Vshojo are A-rated securities (NijiEN is sliding down from AA, Vshojo is about stable)
>Phase Connect is a B-rated security
>IDOL is a CCC-rated security
>Everything else is slumming around the DDD/F-ratings

>>64732737
idol had 25k average views across watchalongs

>>64732998
Sort of, it's just Cyberlive

>>64733081
They did not fucking get Mika for this, if that's what you mean
As for the other assets, eh, maybe

>>64732957
Al lot of them did dumb shit that triggered holofans(unicorns) but I guess it can be narrowed down to Ruze, Vesper and Jurard

What's the logic behind vtubers that graduate under the pretense of being done with the hobby, acting like they will never stream again, only to debut in another corpo shortly after?

>>64733201
I was referring to the stinger transition in particular.

>>64733107
This is making too much sense, it’s unnerving.

>>64733269
Milking their paypigs.

>>64733269
thinking that nobody will recognize them
which is stupid

>>64732637
Nigger the tempagpag debuts after the complete collapse of the whole branch had like 30k ccv

>>64732957
Ollie's nepo hire, possibly?

>>64733269
the realization they have no other marketable skills

>>64732370
I’m pretty sure that would be actually unironically a crime. Also we know Shu applied to Hololive so it’s not true at least in 2021.

>>64732428
UPROAR is getting another set of outfits while there’s still no hint of anything for HomoEN.

>>64733372
female post

>>64730264
>>64732500
CCV order will probably be:
Biboo > IRyS > Bae > Mori

she's being cringe

>>64733507
kys phasenigger

7K DORRYAAAAAAA

I miss the old days of when small debuts were scuffed, bring out the Ame kino.

>>64729476
and i have to read that phase is bigger than nijien when this is their debut number

>18 years
do you really believe?

7k

>>64733501
Is Uproar a separate branch like Regloss?

>>64733107
>Keynesian
>Demand-Driven
I'm baffled by this concept
If anything, I'd say that Hololive is the new-age neoliberal position (free trade between branches within Hololive, focus on outsourcing to developing markets to provide labor while expanding the market of the large market) while Nijisanji is merchantilist (fanbases are segregated, the best way to move up in the company is to focus on building your own resources up, sharing resources with other Nijis is seen as depriving your own country/talent's resources, all competing for what's seen as a zero-sum game of success at other talent's expense [the ticket system is/was the epitome of this])

>>64733631
that one really upset you girls huh

>>64732733
They haven’t even beaten Ina.

>>64731788
That's the big question as no one knows

>>64733501
Oh, I bet there's crickets at least from twitter vs the seethe Advent got with their New Year's outfits

By the way, this girl is an EST Vtuber from what she said on stream today, so congrats to ESTfags

>>64733667
no, but magni and vesper getting a redesign delayed their outfits and 3D

>>64732957
Probably Vesper and his speech about “triangle supremacists”

>>64732370
>as the big 2 collude.
The point of collusion is all parties involved get something out of it. Not sure what's the point of Nijisanji playing second fiddle only for Hololive to reap the benefits, especially considering the GRIM financials NijiCN is showing.

>>64731376
Is this the sex tiger or the other one?

>>64733682
Not really, it just make me feel like whoever says that is a retard who think one talent like pippa being big means the entire agency is bigger than it is. NijiEN even losing popularity still is far above the small corpos

>>64731788
Sounds like someone who was overperforming her contract and couldn't get it renegotiated to her satisfaction. Pretty common on the bottom of the vtuber foodchain.

>>64733372
Botted, doesn't count

qrd on the yab?

>>64733667
No

Bad news bros

>>64733674
Vtubers are the good. Hololive has explicitly said they release according to demand.
Nijisanji blows them out like a corn farmer getting subsidies.

men pol after watch a long

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IcCPEgNs2LY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IcCPEgNs2LY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IcCPEgNs2LY

A Kiara song? Unexpected but I wonder if Kiara will notice this.

>>64733776
Advent getting 3D first will cause such a huge meltdown that I hope it happens

>>64733775
There are ironically too many now, all of advent and ina/fauna/bae/ pile into the slot. Hope shes early.

>>64731788
manager was a groomer

>>64733999
i couldnt find the movie to stream

>>64733999
How long?

How did Phase manage to triple their CCV in just a year? I don't think they did anything too crazy.

>>64734126
they are paying filian to watch their debuts

>https://twitter.com/RissaVirus/status/1736418167981854829
>most downbad fanbase

>>64733939
>died to let a Holo thread win
pottery

>>64734032
How would she not? Doesn't Kiara own the rights to that song and would have to approve a cover of it? Since she at least partially commissioned it's creation.

>One Piece gets a remake while it's still running and Wit Studio (worked on AoT S1 & 2) is at the helm

>>64734104
30 secs
>>64734094
anon yo... your IRC reps...

>>64734032
>I wonder if Kiara will notice this.
I would assume they asked for permission, so yes she would know

>>64734126
They went the raid route.

>>64734153
>Saplings beating Jailbirds, IRyStocrats in the "who is the horniest" division
Fucking what

>>64734126
Pippa brings in an absolute shitload of money
they use that money for advertisement

>>64734126
consistently streaming lmao

>>64734032
leeches gonna leech

>>64732637
Anon, so far that was getting outranked by Pippa’s feet! Not even the higher CCV of the company

>>64734126

>>64733844
It's strange that there has only been 1 side switch in 5 years and only 1 person who had the option to pick between the two.

It's really suspicious.

>>64734202
bro im literally a retarded boomer im 32 with gray hair

>>64734183
>>64734203
Sorry misworded
By notice I mean like, actually comment on it on twitter or stream or whatever

>>64734032
These small corpo shitters are so shameless. They really sour the whole vtuber scene.

>>64734126
consistency in actually streaming and not being niji black

>>64734331
fucking cry about it holokek

>>64734104
Not even a minute

>>64734331
Nijiseethe

>>64734331
anon theres nothing wrong with covering a Holo girl's song
I'm sure Kiara will be flattered honestly

>>64734126
What was tripled? What are you talking about?

Phasecucks, you ain't slick at all.

did berylfags win?

>>64734306
I learned how to use IRC thing because I'm 33

9k doryaaaaa

I really really like debuts guys :)

>>64734262
How about right now

FEET DEFEATED FEET DEFEATED, BESTIALITY IS THE STRONGER FETISH

>>64734511
i dont wanna get doxxed with irc it shows your ip

>>64734443
Surprised no DOU desu, heart challenger was always a bit niche.

>>64733880
Pippa has been competing with and fairly often beating the top NijiEN members recently, but she's only one member.
There's a lot of NijiEN members between Pippa and Tenma, phase number 2. Not to mention the box NijiEN can put together is still far bigger then anything Phase can do at the moment.
So Phase is becoming more competitive with NijiEN but still has a long way to go

>>64734576
pay 5 bucks
if you dont have accesseven paying then use vpn + and pay 5 bucks

Someone said idol debuts peaked at 7.3k?

>>64734126
Well it hasn't tripled, but it has grown a lot!
Answer is consistent streaming, *minimal* yabs at least comparatively, Pippa, and of course recently the changes to CCV counting have helped a minor amount

>>64734688
>someone said

Any of these girls notable? Like girls that were being shilled as EN3/EN4? Also what were the numbers on the recent Niji debuts?

>>64734650
NijiEN's box is bigger....for the males. The girl's box is no bigger than 8k

>>64734153
I guess it's an insight into the twitter fans.
I guess twitter pebbles are a very different group then /gem/

>>64734190

>>64734688
7.6k according to vstats

>>64734650
Literally everyone is a 3view shitter other than Pippa, which is a low 4view shitter.

Wait was HER always EST? I thought she was australian or some shit.

>>64734888
When will Mori get a remake?

>>64734869
Every general is horny for their oshi, that doesn't mean anything. Biboo isn't traditionally sexy.

>>64734975
Nothing that anon said really contradicts this statement though. It's not that Pippa has become so great that she can compete with NijiEN, NijiEn has fallen so far that they compete with Pippa.

>>64734975
>One year ago
>Literally everyone is a 2view shitter other than Pippa, which is a low 3view shitter

>>64735100
She's perfect now.

>>64732733
Reminds me how Roca won gold on her debut. The only small corpo gold of the year, I think.

>>64733992
Keynes was all about government monetary policy to level off the amount and severity of boom/bust periods, and subsidizing demand when the market was in a bust period with money saved during boom periods.
If we apply that model to Vtubing, Hololive isn't subsidizing the consumer by releasing the good onto the market; they're subsidizing the production of the good and bringing it to market, whether or not they're getting the consumer demand that's required to succeed on the open market (see: Homos being literally subsidized).
Whereas Nijisanji is blasting the goods onto the markets and basically not caring whether or not they make market. It's producing goods and simply assuming that the market will buy them at a good rate, and letting them drop to the actual demand rate if it comes to that while focusing on the high-demand items. I'm not sure what economic model that would be in terms of release. They subsidize the amount of goods to market, so supply-side isn't entirely wrong, but that doesn't translate into a higher demand for the good. I guess it works as supply-side economics if the goal is to make goods that are cheap to consume per consumer, since the spending on each is relatively low?

>>64734640
It always felt like HC was more niche, but looking quickly on YT
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BcWKJCuPtgY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4mXMR6YTY9c
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IcCPEgNs2LY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fy4Lzfjh2g8
There were a good few amount I found surprisingly

>>64734936
funny that

>>64735100
we are at her seventh or something remake, anon

>>64735204
chuuuuuuuuuuuu~

>>64735162
Nope. The same statement applies exactly even a year ago.

>>64735088
Australians generally have an Australian accent.

>Goal: Stream consistently
Is she /here/ and taking advice or is this just finally normal knowledge in the 2view community

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DowCEUJ2ZtQ

>>64735310
Bae…

>>64734032
There's like 2-3 KFP in Phase now, right? Would explain why they're so shitty.

Last small corpo debuts I watched, one turned out to be a piss drinker, another turned out to be a druggy whore. Honestly it gets hard to watch these new debuts.

>>64734460
Depends if you consider Phase a win or not but she's none of them.

>>64735204

>>64734831
They still pulled 20k for the recent debuts, and that lethal company collab had over 10k between 3 of the girls. Bit of an outlier but still bigger. For now anyway, 2024 will be interesting

>>64735193
Honestly that makes it cuter/legitimate that they're possible KFP since it's often a bit overshadowed by the whole 'Stream Sharks' that happened soon after.

>>64735366
UUUUUUUUUUUUUU

>>64735342
I think most corpos request that. At least at the beginning.

>>64735464
there's no win unless it's Hololive

So is Beryl or Kana? They're favorites that catalogfags love to shove into holo

>>64735342
Do you not know who she is?

>>64735504
because the sisters were watching. Those people aren't going to consistently watch the girls, as we soon found out

>>64735550
IIRC Kana is in but Beryl is still MIA

>>64735459
You consistently pick the shittiest redflag girls in the whole batch. It's a talent I guess?

>>64734032
Kiara's mindshare is increasing, you would never see a corpo girl cover a mori original

>>64735342
Only the very brightest philippino stream scholars from /#/ could have found out that streamers should try to stream regularly

>>64735550
beryl's accent is pretty heavy

>>64735572
I don't know shit about these women

>>64735310
You know that the accent you cunts use for your movies is actually just the accent of a single specific area and most Australians don’t speak like that at all. A more accurate way of telling is a constant use of shortenings (Maccas, servo) and extremely casual use of crass or vulgar language.

Euphoria is the dedicated idol gen for phase. Interesting, wonder if phase will restructure their gens/groups

>>64735550
If it was beryl then you would've seen #blow up with Berylbros spamming.

>>64734650
Which is closer, the gap between Phase and NijiEN or the gap between NijiEN and HoloEN? HoloEN, at max, can pull about 120k for debuts.

>>64735550
She sounds exactly the same. Just pull up any Kana clip and listen side by side.

I subbed to the dragon

>>64735598
Is Kana this one? She made a Holo rep
>>64735342
>>64734032

>>64735545
Then berylfags didn't lose.

>>64734975
>>64735159
Tenma actually just manged a 4view median and average last month.
Yeah It's not so much that Pippa has grown, she has a bit, it's that NijiEN has fallen off a cliff this year

Next phase debut

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ETDbLLtDyEw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ETDbLLtDyEw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ETDbLLtDyEw

>>64735717
>It's not so much that Pippa has grown
look at Tenma's old numbers, she doubled them

>>64735204
RAAAPE chu~

>>64735713
they haven't won yet either

>>64735619

>>64735717
YouTube is not her main platform.

Just to be clear:
Saya is now officially the #1 Phase streamer of all time, having generated a max CCV of 7,611, beating the former champion

>>64735791
this one I am skeptical about

>>64735907
we probably will see that broken at least twice more tonight

>>64733269
>What's the logic behind vtubers that graduate under the pretense of being done with the hobby,
>acting like they will never stream again, only to debut in another corpo shortly after?
It's just this industry's form of quitting your current job at Company A for a different one down the street at Company B.
The only difference is, this job usually comes with a "Don't tell the customers where your next gig is." clause, which is immediately broken anyway.

>>64735806
ToT

Beryl bros is it time??

this Phase girl sounds nice

>>64735907
Phase relies on the NA market and peaks near 6pm PST. The closer we get to peak hours the bigger number will get

the advertising worked
I wouldnt have known about this if it wasnt on the award show

oh shit she sings well

>>64735798
Doubled?

IT'S HER!!!!!!

>>64736118
tripled

>>64735907
She just barely slipped to Roca. I'm sure at least one of her genmates will get higher though.

>>64735907
Didn't Pippa have a higher peak on wizard game?

holy shit this is fucking good music, this girl will be a superstar

>Long pink-haired girl with psuedo-Catholic aesthetics who debuts with a song and a deeper (but not too deep) voice

>>64736025
No.

>>64735908
I hope you listened to her opening song. That was a banger.

>>64736035
i actually liked all of their voices from the promo
in holoen theres always been one whos voice is grating each gen (kiara mumei shiori)

>>64735608
It's a skill issue honestly. I'm just drawn to small cute models and those tend to have red flags all over them.

>>64736187
Oh come on