/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

>>646789

>>646789
You mean Ayame?

>>646789
No Ayame is among western fans. People just find Luna kind of annoying.

>>646838
>>646849
What did Ayame do?

>>646849
Why the hell anyone would hate ayame?

>>646859
its better to ask what she didnt do

westerners might hate her. no fucks given. clipfags can go fuck themselves

as for jp holo fans, she has a quirky personality at first glance due largely to her ohimesama look and nanora talk so her start was slow but after everyone found her very good at collabs and jokes with boke and tsukkomi, she established her own position in holo jp. tldr nobody hates her. subaruna is one of the very popular tee-tees.

>>646789
Tbh, while Luna's gimmick on paper sounds retarded and dumb, it kinda hits me. She's very good at acting and throws some unexpected curveballs into it like her english teaching series in Asacoco.
>>646859
Problems with Ayame is her extremely poor health. I don't blame her and she's doing as much as she can but sadly i think sooner or later she will be forced to retire.

>>646859
>>646870
The perception is she doesn't respect her co-workers because she always streams through their special events while other girls plan their schedules around stopping before those streams. Also things like how few people went to her birthday stream despite being a longtime member make people believe she is generally disliked among the talent beyond the couple of girls who think she is super cute. Also some stupid gossip about her personal life which i won't even entertain here.

>>646859
>>646870

>>646870
Someone thinks that because people memed the fuck out of hating Ayame in old /hlg/ and /hlgg/ that the majority of western fans dislike her. In reality everything I've seen outside of here suggests that western fans who know she exists think she's really cute. As for Holos, a number of the JP Holos seem to love her despite the fact that she streams 2hrs/month.

>>647047
Why does this make her look bad? Her superchats suffered greatly because she doesn't stream enough. If you want to make a narrative how she doesn't deserve what she gets, this isn't doing a good job of it.

>>646970
I thought call-in streams are mostly invite only? Where you specifically ask a person to drop by? If that was the case, I think she might have struggled even inviting people for that. Never realized people thought of that as her being disliked.

Why is her health condition so poor? I never really knew what she has but I am aware that she does get sick quite often.

>>647047
If you looked at the SC totals for 2020, Ayame was one of the low-earners comparatively to other holo members. She got beat by Aki and Robocco. Maybe this was for a specific month

>>646789
no isn't it Fubuki or Korone

>>647150
Fubuki or Matsuri. Hated by nips because they collab with dudes

>the Holo with the most haters
>ever not being Coco
As a Coco fan myself, imagine getting flamed by an entire country for doing nothing wrong lmao

>>647047
Holy shit poor choco why

>>647159
lol kill yourself clipfag. do you even know what niji does

this board is really full of newbies.

>>646789
Nobody cares bout Robocco

>>647105
>>647139
I don't care how much SC she earns. The fact that she streamed less than several HoloENs who were only around for the last quarter of 2020 is pretty fucking embarrassing. Mel is understandable since she had her months long break because of that incident, what's Ayame's excuse?

>>647183
youtube puritans, mutt

>>647183
Choco is easily the most underappreciated holo

>>647186
Dude. There was even a whole interaction on Twitter with Matsuri and an anti. He hates fbk and matsuri because they collab with dudes. There was a whole poll about it. I don't hate the two. I like them a lot. I'm just saying that there are people that do hate them because of the fact that they do collab with dudes

>>647215
>>647230
I feel bad for her and roboco. Man some of them really put in the hours huh

>>647240
one or a few twatter weirdos represent "fans".

the fuck are you talking about you stupid dramaqueen

>>647203
Streaming hours? Cover never really hire people to do this work full time. Many of them have full time work or have side jobs. Cover knows this. So hating on Ayame because she has a life other than entertaining you is not really a reason. She has a choice.

>>647266
The question was who is the most disliked holojp. That is not overdramatization. If you can still see the twitter thread, Matsuri unloaded quite a bit explaining what kind of entertainer she wants to be and how collaborating dudes should not be an issue.

No, technically Coco is.

>>647266
And btw, I'm talking about japanase fans here. Overseas fans are really cool with a lot of stuff. Sometimes the hate Matsuri gets is so much that she has to address it. You probably don't notice it because it's in Japanese. It's similar to the hate that chichiro nijisanji gets

>>647307
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i fully understand japanese. the answer is that nobody is really hated because hololive jp is absolutely てぇてぇ driven. you are just exaggerating some partly drama. to put it another way, every holo member has antis but that doesnt mean they are "hated"

those melodramatic soap operas often happen in niji sanji. if you like shit like that learn japanese and watch niji videos

>>647342
says a clipfag

>>647371
Again. Most disliked. Which means people don't like the most. Hated is heavy. It means people that are infamous and are notorious. Like for example the trolling that Coco gets almost every stream. Those are actions driven by delusional hate. Matsuri got so much flak while playing the apex tournament. Where you there? Do you think she cried over nothing? Why do you think Oga was so careful when asked about his impressions towards the hololive girls? Do you really think everthing is all good??

>>647371
Honestly, if every effort that Fubuki and Matsuri has made in trying to promote holostars were received positively then we should be getting a lot more collaborations already. If anything, we are seeing less.

>>647096
No one hates her, only retards believe those narratives. Western fans forget she exists when she takes her long breaks.

>>646789
You guys really need to do your DAILY REPS.
Stop relying on clips my god.

>>647561
More like cause she does nothing when not on break. Oh boy more Zetsudan and Apex. Riveting.

>>647478
Most holo jp fans don't follow all the members and only care about their favourite ones, so unless you are an anti or an absolute holo nerd who researches every member, nobody even gives a shit about such a soap opera. Holo jp has too many members. Nobody can check all their streams.

Also There's a word "汚れキャラ". Dirty character. Vtubers like maturi, tamaki etc are very self aware of doing a somewhat dirty or radical thing. Fans are too. Nevertheless the てぇてぇ culture ends up wiping it out.

>>647166
Chinks aren't people so they don't count.

>>647150
>>647159
Antis do hate FBK but I forget why.

>>647657
Which is why I was asking you if you were following the stress that Matsuri and Chichiro was experiencing when the whole Apex tournament was happening. And just because the dislike is not trending on Twitter that doesn't mean it did not happen. I am somewhat scared for her because she's going to do another one with this CR Cup. I don't mind that you don't agree with me.Matsuri is my oshi though.I hope she will be happy with whatever outcome she gets in this cup.

Who's dumber Luna or Aqua?

>>647793
Lol. They both like to play dumb but they aren't really stupid. Nene though, that girl is so clueless at times it's adorable.

>>646878
to which the answer is "everything"

Luna is starting to grow on me.

>goes to friend of friend's house while they're going through some hardship
>immediately asks to eat their food
>was disappointed she didn't receive enough fan letters, so she demands her fans write her some
>plays the piano and sings
>loudly eats snacks on stream
>never breaks character
>grumpy avatar face is hilarious
>the whole octupus scene in the Hololive Kindergarten drawing segment

Her oblivious/childish nature really lives up to her character as a 0yo princess. She's cute, AND she's actually funny, memes aside.

>>647777
i dont give a shit about her. i mainly watch marine, luna, and subaru. all i know about matsuri is she helped luna a lot when luna had trouble collaborating with other members. matsuri looks totally fine to me. this is the average holo jp fans view. i mean if you were a jp fan who fully understands japanese you wouldnt give a shit about disliking/nitpicking other members.

>>647203
You can't reason with Ayamefags. They're all cuckolds.

>>647047
Why's Calliope the only one listed with the last name?

>>646789
I just can't stand her voice.

thats unironically matsuri since she actively attacks her own viewers

>>646789
That would be Matsuri, by far.

People would be quicker to overlook Luna than dislike her. Even in her own gen there's Coco and Towa. Coco has the entirety of mainland Taiwan out for her blood and even the management seems to be trying to passive aggressively force her out. Towa has the bulk of the JP viewership disregarding her as a whore and because of how obnoxious her western savior complex fans are they're liable to generate western antis out of spite. Also people seem to be convinced that at some point Watame did something wrong.

>>647186
>newbies
Yeah, and you’re one of them.

>>646789
Reddit dragon is far more hated.

Luna is not the most hated, just the most overlooked.

>>646789
most disliked - yes. most hated - no.

>>647159
Words cannot describe how retarded you are if you actually think nips hate Fubuki

>>647326
Chinks aren’t human

>>649339
Agreed, Reddit dragon is the worst of all branches of Cover Corp and it's not even close

>>646789
No, Himemori Luna is not the most disliked neither with overseas or jp fans, not even the chinks.

But there is a perception that she is hated, among overseas, you have the numerous clips on youtube picturing her as someone that "never breaks character" (Lunaitos know that she is just being herself) or the other clips when Marine says that she is annoying and wants to beat her, when in reality she adores her, is just that Marine tries a different dinamic with Luna, because she is the only that can handle it.

And that's pretty much it, Luna is actually the most versatile among the jp holos, she adapts herself with whoever she is collabing with, even though she in reality is timid, almost depressed and is really nervous, she works really hard to overcome and not showing it, and all this missunderstanding is originated by clipfags in youtube, and the results are the OP and this stupid thread.

>>646789
I cannot say the most disliked but clearly the least interesting, fuck you nanora bring something to the table instead of getting mogged by all your gen in every fields

>>647744
She repeatedly refuses to pander to them and won't let herself become a "waifu." She vehemently rails against traditional idolfagging, as everyone should.

>>646859
She's racist and hates Ina.

>>654683
Based, guess I should get her membership.

>>647744
The chinks hate Fubuki because she was going to quit if Cover fired Coco

>>653524
I mean, some people here believe that those relationships are 100% true and not scripted at all, it's scary to think how retarded some people are

>>646789
Isn't it usually Ayame the most hated? I think only Aqua is a distant second because they see her as a rival to Pekora and think she's haughty and none of the other holos like her. Only the Zhangs hate Coco, and nobody cares what they think.

>>648884
Why is Towa a whore now?

>>656779
Because I told you so, you just gotta believe me

>>656828
I want to believe that she does enjou kousai on the side in an attempt to become more devilish.

Japanese hate Towa the most because of the yab
Chinese hate Coco because they are bugs
Western normalfags hate nanora because of the baby RP
/jp/ and /vt/ schizos hate Watame and Ayame for some reason

>>657004
no one hates watame
they hate sheepposters at most
i don´t even remember the last time people said something bad about her except that she cries but that is chat´s fault

>>647196
Why though? She's extremely comfy.

>>659477
comfy = boring

>>649416
this is correct.
She's the very definition of a pleb filter

Can I be honest? I actually enjoy Luna. At first I found her annoying but honestly she really grew on me. She's not really as bad as people make her out to be and her piano playing is fun to tune into from time to time.

>>657140
Watame is unhateable, if you hate her you're not human.

im sure 99% of the posters on this shit board are clip faggots who cant understand japanese at all.

>>647259
choco's great but you can kind of attribute the insane hours to what can only be described as a "crippling ark addiction" for like half of last year

>>647047
autism

>>661229
Youre an idiot

>>647793
Actually stupid or pretending to be retarded?

Because the former is haachama
The latter would go to luna, she has mastered pretending to be a brainless annoyance

>>661310
Yeah Luna is enjoyable, but sadly she is not making use of the short video shitposting some of the other hololive girls are doing. I don’t think it would be hard for her to incline if she do them. The one where she wear sun glasses and riding a tricycle is hilarious, has that been upload on her channel instead of the main one, her sub should have gone up. She should make short video with that sun glasses or with the Godzilla costume.

>>662021
>brainless
never?
prove it clipfaggot

I've never seen anyone actually hate Luna - alot of people are filtered by her voice and baby/princess act but all of those I've seen seem to have the attitude that she's just not for them, rather than any kind of ill will. The only actual ill will I've seen towards her was a small amount around her debut for roommate reasons. So while she's not popular, I'd think shes one of the least disliked Holos if anything.

>>657140
>except that she cries
there is always a limit, and she abuses it, she used to be more funny and optimist

>>662021
shes self aware of everything she does. this is why clipfags like op are out of hand

>>662841
Do your full sentence reading reps anon

>>662941
I know, and i love it. Clipfags need to actually watch the whole stream, its getting sad

*filters you*

>>664302
Ok guguru

>>646789
fucking clipwatchers I swear to god...
No, Luna isn't the most disliked of the Holo JP. She isn't even the most disliked Holo in her own generation.

>>647196
I care about Robocco and I'm happy that her viewership is going up since her brake.
But her and Choco really need a little push from management.

>>647183
She deserves so much more, but youtube shat on her hardcore.

>>647047
KNEEL

>>646789
The only hololive that has a hater inside cover is Towa, she hates herself...

>>646789
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>>665153
She's making too many selfies for a self-hating person though...

>>646789
Whaaaaaat? Who hates Luna? Nobody hates Luna riiiiight~

>>649416
Indeed she is, at least a lot of 35Ps gave her a look and stayed loyal viewers to her after the 3 months Mikogedon since their humor is similar

>>664999
She did another near 8 hour stream today, the sheep cant be stopped

>>664999
I lover her void terrarium streams.

>>647517
That actually makes sense in a sad kind of way.

>>646789
Her baby antics is not my cup of tea, I always give every girl a shot for the first month but Luna is the only 4th gen I didn't stay subbed.

>>653524
>that callout against "real voice" clippers
She's pretty fucking based if you ask me.

>>662919
it's cute how she cries in any sadbait situation like in Anika & Girafe, she eats ramen like a pro

>>648884
Warukunai yo ne

>>647047
Choco......
just retire and marry me

>>647047
Kanata earns more than Korone? That's really unexpected to me. I always thought she was low on the card.