/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

*GENERAL NUMBERFAG SITES*
>https://playboard.co/en/
>http://ikioi-ranking.com/
>https://vrabi.net/
>https://www.vstats.jp
>https://live-ranking.userlocal.jp/vtuber-ranking

Hololive sites
>https://vt.poi.cat/
>https://www.hololyzer.net/youtube/index.html
>https://trackholo.live/en/
>https://www.hololive-songs.com/

Nijisanji sites
>https://niji-mado.web.app/stats/hourly
>https://twitter.com/2434rankings
>https://twitter.com/2434subscriber
>https://www.nijiuta.com/

Twitch
>https://sullygnome.com/
>https://twitchtracker.com/
>https://stats.roki.sh/

Full list at https://pastebin.com/nCGZL1Lp

UOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOH

* FINAL TALLY OF THE DAY *

>52,740: Towa (Hololive)
>43,557: Kuzuha (Nijisanji)
>42,506: Kuzuha (Nijisanji)
>34,310: Haachama (Hololive)
>30,711: Pekora (Hololive)
>24,614: Lauren (Nijisanji)
>23,914: Subaru (Hololive)
>23,463: Iroha (Hololive)
>19,089: Subaru (Hololive)
>18,323: Kanae (Nijisanji)
>15,407: Aki (Hololive)
>15,257: Ito Life (Indie)
>14,146: Aqua (Hololive)
>13,763: Fubuki (Hololive)
>13,630: Fuwamoco (Hololive)
>13,604: Noel (Hololive)
>12,907: Ririka (Hololive)
>12,899: Botan (Hololive)
>12,642: Towa (Hololive)
>12,610: Kanata (Hololive)
>12,189: Nui (Nijisanji)
>12,180: Fuwa (Nijisanji)
>11,969: Koyori (Hololive)
>11,823: Mio (Hololive)
>11,746: Patra (Indie)
>11,707: Fuwamoco (Hololive)
>11,556: Bijou (Hololive)
>10,908: Shu (Nijisanji)
>10,474: Necoma (KEMOMIMI-REFLE!)

>>64642063
/#/ is a cunny general.

>>64641893
>One hour untill the vtuber awards any last mintue predictions.
Numbers predictions for the awards show? Any chance it breaks some twitch records?

>>64642118
>DECEMBER 2023 GOLDS
1) Aqua (Hololive) - 57,513 - Birthday Reverse Totsumachi
2) Hololive (Hololive) - 80,756 - HoloX 3D Live
3) Kuzuha (Nijisanji) - 54,582 - League of Legends vs k4sen (w/ Shaka)
4) Marine (Hololive) - 82,999 - Sankisei Game of Life
5) Miko (Hololive) - 63,915 - The Exit 8
6) Pekora (Hololive) - 74,623 - Sololive Free Portion
7) Mio (Hololive) - 73,070 - Anniversary 3D Live
8) Shion (Hololive) - 84,629 - Birthday 3D Live
9) Korone (Hololive) - 56,638 - Splatoon Tournament
10) Marine (Hololive) - 68,888 - The Exit 8
11) Kuzuha (Nijisanji) - 48,215 - VCR GTA
12) Kuzuha (Nijisanji) - 58,854 - VCR GTA
13) Ayame (Hololive) - 121,015 - Birthday 3D Live
14) Pekora (Hololive) - 46,053 - Return Stream
15) Marine (Hololive) - 100,551 - Breaking Watermelon With Rubberbands (w/ Pekora)
16) Towa (Hololive) - 52,740 - Mario Kart Tournament Roster Reveal

>PER COMPANY
13x: Hololive
3x: Nijisanji

>PER STREAMER
3x: Kuzuha, Marine
2x: Pekora
1x: Aqua, Ayame, Hololive, Korone, Miko, Mio, Shion, Towa


>2023 GOLDS
>PER COMPANY
250x: Hololive
77x: Nijisanji
11x: Indie
6x: Neo-Porte, VSPO

>PER STREAMER
73x: Pekora
30x: Miko
24x: Marine
16x: Kuzuha
14x: Hololive
11x: Subaru
10x: Nijisanji
9x: Suisei
8x: Toya
7x: Aqua
6x: Hal, Mio
5x: Iroha, Towa, Yashiro
4x: Chiroru, Fuwa, Koyori, Lamy, Leos, Lui, NeruMero, Okayu, Shiina, Shion
3x: Flare, Fubuki, Korone, Watame
2x: Aki, Ayame, Botan, Chloe, Fuwamoco, Hajime, Hinano, Ibrahim, Maimoto, Mel, Noel, Polka, Salome, Tsukasa
1x: Air, Beni, Choco, Gaku, Gura, Gundou, Haachama, Hibari, Himawari, Hololive English, Ina, Kaede, Kanade, Kanata, Kanato, Kiara, Kobo, Kronii, Laplus, Lauren, Lize, Luna, Met, Mito, Mori, Mumei, Mysta, Nene, Nose, Nozomi, Nui, Ponto, Qpi, Raden, Rikiichi, Rion, Roco, ROF-MAO, Ryushen, Youko

I love them

*FINAL EN TALLY OF THE DAY IS IN*

>12/16 DAILY TALLY
13,630: FuwaMoco (Hololive)
11,707: FuwaMoco (Hololive)
11,556: Bijou (Hololive)
10,908: Shu (Nijisanji)
8,954: Baelz (Hololive)
8,301: Hakka (Holostars)
7,663: Nerissa (Hololive)
7,156: IRyS (Hololive)
7,013: Fauna (Hololive)
5,958: Ina (Hololive)


>EN GOLDS FOR DECEMBER 2023
1) Selen (Nijisanji) - 11,895 - Birthday Concert
2) Amelia (Hololive) - 12,143 - Unarchived Karaoke
3) FuwaMoco (Hololive) - 15,827 - Karaoke
4) Selen (Nijisanji) - 21,694 - Apex Tournament Announcement (w/ Regis & Axel)
5) FuwaMoco (Hololive) - 21,293 - FuwaMoco Morning
6) Bijou (Hololive) - 11,662 - The Exit 8
7) FuwaMoco (Hololive) - 20,286 - FuwaMoco Morning
8) FuwaMoco (Hololive) - 18,386 - Hollow Cocoon
9) FuwaMoco (Hololive) - 22,983 - FuwaMoco Morning
10) Ina (Hololive) - 39,746 - 3D Live
11) Kotoka (Nijisanji) - 20,545 - Handcam Cooking (w/ Yashiro)
12) FuwaMoco (Hololive) - 19,523 - FuwaMoco Morning
13) FuwaMoco (Hololive) - 23,159 - The Exit 8
14) FuwaMoco (Hololive) - 16,240 - FuwaMoco Morning
15) FuwaMoco (Hololive) - 35,593 - Christmas Tree Decoration
16) FuwaMoco (Hololive) - 13,630 - FuwaMoco Morning

>PER COMPANY
13x: Hololive
3x: Nijisanji

>PER STREAMER
10x: FuwaMoco
2x: Selen
1x: Amelia, Bijou, Ina, Kotoka

>POINTS PER STREAMER (gold = 5pts, silver = 3pts, bronze = 1pt)
66p: FuwaMoco
13p: Selen
12p: Baelz
10p: Bijou
8p: Fauna, Ina
6p: Amelia, Mori
5p: IRyS, Kotoka
3p: Millie
2p: Shiori

GRIM

>12/16 FINAL EN YTxTW DAILY TALLY
13,630: FUWAMOCO (Hololive) -botted-
12,151: OniGiri (Indie)
11,556: Koseki Bijou (Hololive)
10,908: Shu Yamino (Nijisanji) -botted-
8,404 : Henya the Genius (Vshojo)
8,954 : Hakos Baelz (Hololive)
8,301 : Banzoin Hakka (Holostars) -botted-
7,663 : Nerissa Ravencroft (Hololive)
7,156 : IRyS (Hololive)
7,013 : Ceres Fauna (Hololive)
5,958 : Ninomae Ina'nis (Hololive)
6,656 : Snuffy (Indie)
5,643 : Kson (Vshojo)
5,539 : Zentreya (Vshojo)
5,456 : Shylily (Mythic Talent)
5,450 : Pipkin Pippa (Phase Connect)

>EN YTxTW TINS FOR NOVEMBER 2023
1) Selen Tatsuki (Nijisanji) - 11,895 - Birthday Concert
2) Watson Amelia (Hololive) - 12,143 - Karaoke
3) FUWAMOCO (Hololive) - 15,827 - Karaoke
4) Selen Tatsuki (Nijisanji) - 21,694 - Apex Tournament (botted)
5) FUWAMOCO (Hololive) - 21,293 - Fuwamoco Morning (botted)
6) Koseki Bijou (Hololive) - 11,662 - The Exit 8
7) FUWAMOCO (Hololive) - 20,286 - Fuwamoco Morning (botted)
8) Ironmouse (Vshojo) - 25,045 - VGA Watchalong
9) FUWAMOCO (Hololive) - 22,983 - Fuwamoco Morning (botted)
10)Ninomae Ina'nis (Hololive) - 39,746 - Birthday 3D Live
11)Kotoka Torahime (Nijisanji) - 20,545 - Handcam cooking (w/ Yashiro)
12) FUWAMOCO (Hololive) - 19,523 - Fuwamoco Morning (botted)
13) FUWAMOCO (Hololive) - 23,159 - The Exit 8 (botted)
14) FUWAMOCO (Hololive) - 16,240 - Fuwamoco Morning (botted)
15) FUWAMOCO (Hololive) - 35,593 - Decorate FWMC Tree (botted)
15) FUWAMOCO (Hololive) - 13,630 - Fuwamoco Morning (botted)

>PER GROUP
12x: Hololive (8 botted)
3x: Nijisanji (1 botted)
1x: Vshojo

>PER STREAMER
9x: FUWAMOCO
2x: Selen Tatsuki
1x: IronMouse, Watson Amelia, Bijou, Ina, Kotoka

>PER BOTTED
9x: FUWAMOCO
2x: Selen
1x: Mori, Hakka, Shu, Millie

>POINTS PER STREAMER (tin = 5pts, rubber = 3pts, plastic = 1pt)
47p:FUWAMOCO
12p:IronMouse, Bae
10p:Selen
8p: Fauna, Ina, Bijou
6p: IRyS, Amelia
5p: Kotoka, Mori
4p: Henya
3p: Millie, OniGiri
1p: GEEGA, Vedal, Snuffy

Is there a way Cover can reconcile the dueling fandom opinions of Stars getting too much support at the expense of the girls and the Stars not getting enough support from management (and thr girls)?
The bed Cover has made cannot be comfortable to lie on.
Everything could work itself out if Stars ever popped off and become self sustaining, but the longer the doesn't happen, the worse rhe situation seems to get.
I side with the hololive side of things but it's crazy that there are two wildly different POVs on Cover's management.

>>64642260
>12/16 FINAL EN TWITCH DAILY TALLY
12,151: OniGiri (Indie)
8,404 : Henya the Genius (Vshojo)
6,656 : Snuffy (Indie)
5,643 : Kson (Vshojo)
5,539 : Zentreya (Vshojo)
5,456 : Shylily (Mythic Talent)

>EN TWITCH GOLD FOR NOVEMBER 2023
1) Ironmouse (Vshojo) - 9,801 - Lethal Company
2) Henya The Genius (Vshojo) - 9,809 - VRCHAT
3) Ironmouse (Vshojo) - 13,508 - Animation contest
4) Henya The Genius (Vshojo) - 8,021 - Lethal Company
5) Henya The Genius (Vshojo) - 10,099 - Lethal Company (/w Pomu, Elira, Millie)
6) GEEGA (Vshojo) - 6,956 - Super Smash Bros Ultimate (/w Haruka, Zentreya, Henya)
7) Filian (Mythic Talent) - 6,315 - Crused Trivia (w/Vienna)
8) Ironmouse (Vshojo) - 25,045 - VGA Watchalong
9) Henya The Genius (Vshojo) - 8,334 - The Day Before (/w Kson)
10)Ironmouse (Vshojo) - 23,661 - New Model Debut
11)Nihmune (Indie) - 7,268 - Birthday 48h subathon
12)Vedal (Indie) - 10,459 - Just Chatting
13)Ironmouse (Vshojo) - 11,745 - Lethal Company
14)Ironmouse (Vshojo) - 10,867 - Ready or Not
14)Snuffy (Indie) - 14,298 - House Flipper 2
14)OniGiri (Indie) - 12,151 - Winter Outfit Debut

>PER GROUP
11x: Vshojo
4x: Indie
1x: Mythic Talent

>PER STREAMER
6x: IronMouse
4x: Henya
1x: GEEGA, Filian, Nihmune, Vedal, Snuffy, OniGiri

>POINTS PER STREAMER (Gold = 5pts, Silver = 3pts, Bronze = 1pt)
33p:IronMouse
28p:Henya
12p:Vedal
10p: Zentreya
8p: Filian
7p: Snuffy
6p: Vedal, Nihmune, Snuffy, OniGiri, GEEGA
4p: Shoto, Vei
3p: Kson
1p: Anny, Trickywi, OniGiri, Matara
Sources: Streamcharts

>>64641893
Ironmouse will win vtuber of the year and shitposting will ensue, and hololive with sweep every other category besides that one but will lose one other category, and the member who lost that category will get shitposted about.
>>64642185
>Any chance it breaks some twitch records?
I can only really see it getting at most 50k viewers, so no.

FAUNA'S TALKING ABOUT MOLESTING MUMEI WITH A KEY RIGHT NOW

>>64642251
>2023 EN GOLDS
>PER COMPANY
271x: Hololive
73x: Nijisanji
5x: Holostars
1x: Idol

>PER STREAMER
41x: FuwaMoco
32x: Fauna
28x: Mori, Mumei
25x: Gura
19x: IRyS
16x: Bijou, Ina
15x: Baelz, Kronii
14x: Mysta
13x: Amelia
12x: Kiara
9x: Vox
6x: Selen
5x: Nerissa
4x: Pomu, Ren, Shu
3x: Hololive English, Luca, Nina, Shiori
2x: Alban, Doppio, Finana, Fulgur, Ike, Millie, Wilson
1x: Aia, Bandage, Enna, Elira, Flayon, Kotoka, Kyo, Luxiem, Octavio, Petra, Regis, Rexford, Roca, Rosemi, Scarle, Sonny, Vesper, Victoria


>2023 POINTS PER STREAMER (gold = 5pts, silver = 3pts, bronze = 1pt)
336p: FuwaMoco
304p: Fauna
238p: Mumei
229p: Mori
191p: IRyS
183p: Ina
165p: Baelz
151p: Bijou
134p: Gura
124p: Kronii
112p: Kiara
105p: Mysta
104p: Amelia
77p: Vox
75p: Luca
60p: Nerissa
44p: Selen
40p: Shiori
37p: Shu
29p: Pomu
24p: Nina
21p: Millie, Ren
20p: Fulgur
19p: Enna, Ike
17p: Sonny
15p: Hololive English, Kotoka, Uki
13p: Finana
11p: Axel
10p: Alban, Doppio, Elira, Wilson
9p: Petra, Vesper
7p: Regis
6p: Bandage, Kyo, Rexford, Rosemi
5p: Aia, Flayon, Luxiem, Octavio, Roca, Scarle, Victoria
4p: Bringer, Magni
3p: Bettel, Claude, Crimzon, Goldbullet, Hakka
2p: Meloco
1p: Kunai, Maria, Shinri, Pippa, Poko, Reimu

>>64641812
Not really. Playing with fans is random and they usually leave in a round and are just anonymous for the most part. These artists she's teaching reaching out to in DMs to specifically join and will mention their names in the stream title/description

>>64642202

>>64642251
>2023 EN GOLDS
>PER COMPANY
271x: Hololive
73x: Nijisanji
5x: Holostars
1x: Idol

>PER STREAMER
41x: FuwaMoco
32x: Fauna
28x: Mori, Mumei
25x: Gura
19x: IRyS
16x: Bijou, Ina
15x: Baelz, Kronii
14x: Mysta
13x: Amelia
12x: Kiara
9x: Vox
6x: Selen
5x: Nerissa
4x: Pomu, Ren, Shu
3x: Hololive English, Luca, Nina, Shiori
2x: Alban, Doppio, Finana, Fulgur, Ike, Millie, Wilson
1x: Aia, Bandage, Enna, Elira, Flayon, Kotoka, Kyo, Luxiem, Octavio, Petra, Regis, Rexford, Roca, Rosemi, Scarle, Sonny, Vesper, Victoria


>2023 POINTS PER STREAMER (gold = 5pts, silver = 3pts, bronze = 1pt)
344p: FuwaMoco
304p: Fauna
238p: Mumei
229p: Mori
191p: IRyS
183p: Ina
165p: Baelz
152p: Bijou
134p: Gura
124p: Kronii
112p: Kiara
105p: Mysta
104p: Amelia
77p: Vox
75p: Luca
60p: Nerissa
44p: Selen
40p: Shiori
37p: Shu
29p: Pomu
24p: Nina
21p: Millie, Ren
20p: Fulgur
19p: Enna, Ike
17p: Sonny
15p: Hololive English, Kotoka, Uki
13p: Finana
11p: Axel
10p: Alban, Doppio, Elira, Wilson
9p: Petra, Vesper
7p: Regis
6p: Bandage, Kyo, Rexford, Rosemi
5p: Aia, Flayon, Luxiem, Octavio, Roca, Scarle, Victoria
4p: Bringer, Magni
3p: Bettel, Claude, Crimzon, Goldbullet, Hakka
2p: Meloco
1p: Kunai, Maria, Shinri, Pippa, Poko, Reimu

How did retards let Fillian, just a vtuber, hornswaggle them into pretending her awards mean anything

Wait so, did the rangeban happen after the nijis got botted not after the months of FWMC streams...

>>64642302
50k would be insane for twitch.
That would be the biggest Vtuber stream on twitch, outside of the Opera browser embedded debut.

>>64642187
I'm surprised VCR is not getting more golds. I thought this month would be a real horse race between Hololive and Nijisanji but it doesn't look like Niji has much strength left for December even with a GTA buffed Kuzuha.

>>64642274
>I side with the hololive side of things but it's crazy that there are two wildly different POVs on Cover's management.
Why would it be crazy? There isn't a single topic outside of basic elementary verifiable facts that doesn't have 2 wildly different opinions on it. These days faggots will akshualy you on 2+2=4, a vagina makes you a woman, and water is wet.

I hope to god chumbuds don't win the award. I deal with enough retards shitposting about my daughterwife already.

>>64642380
Are you calling fwmc retarded? Asshole

>>64642274
Proper separation would do wonders

>>64642347

>>64642444
...you hope they lose so they'll shitpost about that? It's a lose/lose situation. That said I think it would be much more hilarious if Vox's schizo nest won "most dedicated" lmao

>>64642380
2view syndrome

>>64642380
Cover would do anything to access Filian's target audience

mv views growth in the last 24 hours:

Ui Loli Kami: 334k
PekoMari Bridal Dream: 223k
Marine Bishopai: 138k
Marine Maribako: 46k
Marine Loli Kami: 34k
GuraMari Shinkiro: 30k
Pmaru Sil Vous President: 21k

Bridal Dream's growth has already fallen behind the growth of Ui's Loli Kami.
Maribako's growth has overtaken the growth of Marine's Loli Kami

Loli Ui is still closing the gap on Sil Vous President by over 300k views a day.
There's only 23M to go, since Loli Kami is at 71M and President is at 94M

>>64642302
Ironmouse should win every award or the awards are a sham. The general public already acknowledged she's the cream of thr crop, so opinions to the contrary will just make vtubers seem bitter and jealous.

>>64642380
How did retards let Geoff Keighley, just a guy, hornswaggle them into pretending his awards mean anything

>>64642274
Proper separation, change of branding and acceptance that HoloPro will never work out like Nijisanji does. Hololive will always be solely about the girls and the whole "Hololive Production" is an extremely awkward way to say the homos are part of Hololive when literally everyone including their actual fans know that this couldn't be further from the truth.

>>64642546
Your analogy crumbles because Geoff not only was an industry veteran but he wasn't a game dev

>>64642185
Not a chance.
>>64642302
Pointless award show even among award shows. The Holo JP viewers being entirely unaware of it is about as big of a handicap as someone could give. Never stopped shitposters though.

>>64642529
>marine
>marine
>marine
>marine
>marine
SUISEi W H OMEGALUL
Marine is the idol of Hololive

>>64642274
Call it quits on the "Hololive Production" experiment and slice the company branding away at last

Rename Holopro into Cover Pro

Rename Holostars into Starslive or CoverStars or something

Disengage all twitters, reddits etc

Remove them from HoloEarth. Completely cut them off from 3d, they are just wasting money. Slice their song budget. Make it clear this is a streaming branch.

>>64642543
Ironmouse's win as like 80% judge/20% audience weighted, was it not?

>>64642637
least delusional Ichimitranny.

>>64642274
No. However firing a person behind twitter account would definitely help.

>>64642666
It was actually 90% judge, I believe

>Normal Tally doesn't include Pippa
>Schizo Tally does
ayo

>>64642302
>50k viewers
You have lost your fucking mind. The combined non HoloEN market cannot must that much and even then NijIEN and Ironmouse would be 60% of it.

>>64642666
>>64642713
TGA? 90%.

>>64642637
you can post suisei numbers if you want, but she hasn't released anything that interesting lately. Phony and Stellar Stellar were somewhat big deals but they both only grow at about 30k a day, so Maribako/Bishopai are going to overtake it soon. When Suisei releases something that goes big I'll track it too.

>>64642713
>>64642763
And how will Filian's thing be judged? Has she said anything on it yet?

>>64642780
That's because Suzie tied herself to midnight shitchestra for no real reason

>>64642820
She said it was purely votes, again I think

>>64642688
No kidding. Whoever is running it is causing a lot of unnecessary trouble all around

>>64642820
There's nothing on the site mentioning a voting jury so it might be 100% public vote.

Oh shoot, just remembered the vtuber awards are today. What time is it on?

>>64642202
>>64642304
>>64642347
>>64642465
Mumei doesn’t stream

>>64642991
We love Mumei here

>>64642732
Yeah the Matara and Henya debuts were ~ 40k, I think Matara might have been the only over 40k twitch vtuber steam all year.
The opera debut got a little over 60k but those number are questionable at best.
I think the last time it was posted the twitch vtuber record is about 44k, 45k, somewhere around there

>>64642763
Do you have a list of the voting jury?

>>64642274
Shutting down Stars would solve all the problems with little to no downsides.

>biggest shitfit the sister running the holoEN twitter ever got was from starsfans
ironic, cause she 100% did it to help the boysss and their numbers by drawing attention to the popular girls that would be attending the live plswatch

>>64643066
>questionable
Anon, they were embedded views without any question

>>64643083
There's like over 100 publications part of the voting jury but this might be the most important ones for people here regarding the absence of a certain vtuber agency.
https://thegameawards.com/voting-jury

>>64642274
Hololive fans don't care about holostar and true holostar fans don't care about hololive. So, the smart thing to do is separating them completely.

>>64642588
Fillian is an industry veteran as well.

>>64643194
I think it would dent Cover's reputation for leaving no one behind.
Not ruining it obviously since the girls will continue to have opportunities should they wish it, but yeah.
Maybe they do just need to rip the bandage off

>>64643290
It really should just be dexerto. They're the only ones proven to actually care about vtubers and to act in an unbiased nature.

>>64643270
Most of the people bitching won't even be watching the countdown anyway.

>>64642251
>11,707: FuwaMoco (Hololive)
>11,556: Bijou (Hololive)
>8,954: Baelz (Hololive)
>7,663: Nerissa (Hololive)
>7,156: IRyS (Hololive)
>7,013: Fauna (Hololive)
>5,958: Ina (Hololive)
Even if you remove the botted streams that's a damn solid tally.
FWMC would be somewhere in the middle to around 8k+ I'm assuming. Also Pippa hit 5k

Kuzuha caught back up, they're level again
Will Ui pull away again?
Or will Kuzuha take back his lead?

>>64643329
No she's not you fucktard

>>64642465
GIWTWM (either one)

>>64643329
lol

>>64643439
>nu-uh!
Uh hu

>>64643279
Sorry that was meant to be more sarcastic, that's why I was ignoring it for the record.
Still there's only been a very small amount of twitch vtuber streams over 40k

hebe pussy is the best

>>64643338
If Cover wants to get rid of them (which is unlikely) there's technically 3 ways they can go with: ripping the bandage off and nuking the branch under the excuse of not being able to keep supporting them and the girls at the same time but that will get them the most amount of negative press in a short period of time, continue with the downsizing and hope that this will inevitably convince them to leave on their own terms, or sell the branch to another company but I don't know how viable this is.

>>64643380
Nice joke

>>64643523
You forgot nr 4: honorble discharge.

Have your models, have your names, have your channels. But you aren't affiliated with us henceforth. Of course this one is not possible investors would just call bullshit on such a waste of IP. Giving away free money is not in any corpo's style.

>>64643380

>>64643616
>Have your models, have your names, have your channels.
Anon, there is ZERO upside for Cover to give up their IP and the whole HoloCN situation proved just that.
In the start there was some "pressure" by the audience to try to force Cover's hand into letting them go indie but sanity prevailed and they were all just sacked and that's it.

>>64638602
NijiEN lost to Tempus despite debuting more talents lmao
If they can't incline from that then they're absolutely fucked

>>64643523
All of these are a PR disaster. They should have just not been hired to begin with.

>>64643616
Honorable discharge would probably be my preferred method but it creates a precedence that people can leave with their model (somehow).
We'd never hear the end of it, at best.

>>64643616
That option was out the window with the IPO, arguably after the Taiwan incident when HoloCN management incorrectly told them they’d be able to do that.

>>64643701
Brave Group spun the Aogiri High School girls off just fine
>for variable values of the word "fine", considering their fuckup with their predecessor (gamebu) was so big there was nothing they could do in the aftermath that would ever beat that

>>64638602
Hot take: Holol JP will hit 14k when late December early January comes into scope.

Now that I think about it, why is the en twitter posting stuff about the starjp countdown when no staren is even going to be in it? Unless the holoEN in asterisk is starEN rather than any of the girls.

>>64643688
idol or phase is the go to agency to audition for if you can't get into holo

>>64643688
Iluna was a mistake. You can see that StarsEN stole some of their viewers during that time.

>>64642063
Another day, another HoloGold
Feels good to be a HoloChad

>>64643805
Niji probably tops idol and phase if you happen to speak Japanese fluently

>>64643616
Yeah, I don't see that ever happening. Maybe let them keep some part of the IP like the names, characters, channels and other stuff like songs tho they will need to commission their own new live2D/3D models and won't have access to Cover's vtuber app but even so it's highly unlikely this will ever happen.

>>64643701
Their existence is already a PR disaster so it's all about choosing the least worst option. I think the current one with the downsizing is probably the best one since the branch is not generating enough revenue to justify giving them the same treatment they give to Hololive but selling them might not be a bad idea since the homos would still exist just under another company.

>>64643777
It's funny that NijiEN has officially become the runt of all major boxes.

>>64643523
>nuking the branch under the excuse of not being able to keep supporting them and the girls at the same time
this should be framed as "we don't feel we can adequately support the HOLOSTARS in their careers going forward". be humble, apologize to their fans, and cut the tumor out.

>>64643338
Nijisanji survived something like 200 yabs at this point. And the only people who would get mad are ledditors who don't watch streams and the sisters who are too busy shitting on Holos to support their boys.

>>64643805
Most niji fem can't compete with Phase nowadays

>>64643777
>Holol JP will hit 14k when late December early January comes into scope.
Sadly VCR GTA and their multiple 8 to 10 hours long streams are offsetting what would otherwise be a very good month for HoloJP average.
Average is a "hours streamed" game, as long as Botan and Towa and Mel and Matsuri and Aki are dominating the hours streamed by the Holo girls they can't possibly beat 13k.
The current average for Hololive would be 12495 without the GTA streams, they're pulling the average down by some 300 which is massive for the small number of streams involved

>>64643405
Very strong showing by advent with a 30k box.

>>64644053
It's ending in a week though.

>>64643970
>holo en
>holo id
>vshojo
>tempus
>niji en /phase connect
is this the current power ranking?

>>64644108
tempus is debut buffed, they're below niji and heading for below phase

>>64644094
Remember when a full NijiEN branch event couldn't hit 8k?

>>64642187
So we didn't get much lewdposting, did the site change fuck up all the imagebros?

>>64643788
Because the Hololive English twitter account is a dumping ground for anything Cover related

>>64644134
NijiEn is also buffed otherwise they'd fall below 1k

NijiEN is closer to HoloEN than Phase/idol is to NijiEN.

>>64644094
I thought that would go on for the rest of the month.

>>64643970
how did tempus manage to incline? didn't niji also debuted some in that timespan?

>>64643970
Tbf StarJP isn’t on that graph, and they’d easily be lowest if they were.

>>64644202
*Phase/Idol is closer to NijiEN than NijiEN is to HoloEN
Sorry bros, got the order mixed up. Haven't had much sleep.

>>64644270
NijiEN did a mixed gen and nobody even their fans wanted that

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lv0ZcQ6nGYo
GOLD

Just a little info from germany. Domtendo, the nintendo dude Kiara watches said N*gg*r on stream and justified/defended himself in a video afterwards. Now I know where Kiara got her choice of words, kek

>>64643805
Brave seems to be failing with globie but trying with v4mirai
Who knows how VSPO EN will do

>>64644270
niji's newest darling vivi cucked her fans

Is FWMC the only one doing non member stream during prime time tonight? Where the hell did everyone go?

>>64644374
lol

>>64644158
it appeared in the other thread and tally was super late

>>64644270
They're not really inclining it's just that their debut buff is stronger because they have their own exclusive audience that doesn't need to divide their attention to a 30+ member mixed gender group. They'll probably go back to their free fall since we're already seeing armpiss members venturing into the 3view territory but it might be a scenario where both groups will start actively competing for the last place among the big corpos.

Vtuber XQC has been surpassed by Vtuber Sodapoppin, to become the top Vtuber in the Vtuber tag.

>>64644388
Cancel Kiara

>>64644374

>>64644270
Cover killed Anycolor on all fronts this time whether it be from male/female boxes to finances.

>>64644374
>It's on Youtube
Wait, why?

>>64644511
>Half of the streams with the vtuber tag aren't vtubers
I thought twitch banned streamers for misusing tags?

>>64644511
Sasuga Vei's husband.

>>64644417
They’re all kneeling to Filian’s vtuber awards

>>64644564
She knows twitch is a dying dead platform.

>>64644520
ogey?

>>64644565
If you big enough, you can do anything on twitch

Holo should hire Ami

>>64644565
>I thought twitch banned streamers for misusing tags?
They sometimes do, but you're probably thinking of people misusing categories. And while twitch might ban a smaller streamer for doing this, you'd be high tier delusional if you would think they would ban any of the biggest streamers on the platform for something like that.

>>64644565
They did for a bit 2 years ago, in turn, the streamers misused tags even harder and Twitch came out with a statement where they officially allowed it.

>>64644489
I saw a lot of niji fans watching those homos. Hell, even their page is more active than niji on that certain doxx site.

come watch this cutie, she's celebrating 6 months
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dlIlRbKvBxA

>>64644484
This place is going to hell

>>64644564
it's on both
11k and rising on Twitch, I doubt she'll get close to that on YT as YT's not really her domain, for streaming anyway

>>64644318
HoloEN: 6362
NijiEN: 1346

HoloEN is 4.7~ times bigger

NijiEN is more than 5 times bigger than idol and Phase.

>>64644388
I do think it's funny how Kiara got far less shit saying Nigga on stream and then justifying it than Mori did saying it almost decade ago.

>>64644565
>misusing
Stop gatekeeping chud!

>>64644685
As >>64644334 said Niji's last wave was mixed and had more girls than dudes so it's obvious that the site that only gives a fuck about males and male accessories would be more interested in the new homoEN gen than the new NijiEN wave.

>>64644709
Part of it is probably the fact there isn't kenzoku here in the first place.

>>64644712
As much as I may wish for the opposite, don't understimate the power of awards.

>>64644417
I dunno, but it's dumb. Holo fans don't care about that award shit.

Marine's short format views are ridiculous

I don't think this vtuber awards stream is going to get anywhere close to 50k...

>>64644374
I’m watching unironically, not like there’s anything else on

>>64644832
On Youtube? lmao
On Twitch? Who knows.

>>64644712
The ratio of viewers between twitch and Youtube is likely the ratio of people who voted from those platforms. Also she didn't seem to use a waiting room for Youtube. I looked right before the start and there was nothing there.

>>64644374
unlikely to even make the en tally

>>64644735
lmao no it's not anon. Phase's average girl gets 500 ccv. NijiEN is more like 2.5x bigger.
But the new NijiEN hires? They are about the same as Phase.

SOON
https://www.twitch.tv/filian

>>64644712
https://www.twitch.tv/filian
That's a hell of a lot of K-pop she's playing.

Question, will there be males at Filian’s award show?

>>64644698
Congrats to your chuuba but I don't watch random shills unless I know if they're affiliated with undesirables or not.
Have fun though. 6 months, good for her.

>>64644832
Did the winners send in messages?

>>64644900
Probably gonna get gold on the bot tally.

>>64644832
Only if it gets raided by the other Mythic guys, but they're busy with some WoW raid.

I'm mostly curious how many holos lowered themselves to participating in the awards with an interview or skit or what have you

KUROE NO

>>64644740
I missed her saying it? Was it the Nene Rigger thing or something else?

>>64642063
/news/ anchor
Reply with a short description of the news and a link to the source!

News from today:
>Koyori got peaches from Konami
https://twitter.com/hakuikoyori/status/1736002562124619815
>Changes to regulations for fan letters to nijisanji members
https://twitter.com/NIJISANJI_World/status/1735601170222305350
>OMOCAT x hololive GAMERS
https://twitter.com/_omocat/status/1735827080456405021
>4channel no longer exists
Imagine a link to this specific page here
>The vtuber awards 2023 by Filian
https://www.twitch.tv/filian
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lv0ZcQ6nGYo

Yesterday's news:
>New holoearth update out featuring character creation and room to test mechanics
https://twitter.com/Holoearth_EN/status/1735262216184893596
>Ookami Mio's Night Walk Album got 5th on Billboard JP Album Downloads chart yesterday
https://twitter.com/Billboard_JAPAN/status/1734793747437948950
>MGO ranked 3rd with 12k day 1 sales on oricon daily physical charts.
https://twitter.com/M_G_Orchestra/status/1734949416212345037?s=20
>Ina nendo
https://twitter.com/GoodSmile_US/status/1735506169953677491
>hololive x HoneyWorks albums announced
https://twitter.com/hololivetv/status/1735646449977970718
>Pekora manga released + interview
https://twitter.com/hololivetv/status/1735497500788937101
>V.W.P. song as anime OP
https://twitter.com/VWP_virtual/status/1734438393780883672
>HACHI invited to KING SUPER LIVE 2024
https://twitter.com/8HaChi_hacchi/status/1735602817719820359
>VShojo x V4Mirai
https://twitter.com/VShojo/status/1735782989156557002

>>64644996
THE INVISIBLE GUN IS REAL

Is this more successful than her last event? The one no one showed up to.

>jwu
>4channel is now 4chan
What happend? Also wtf did he mean by this? >>>/pol/452101469

>everyone in Filian’s yt chat is a holofag

>>64645076
>Koyori got impeached from Konami
No...

>>64644992
How many in holoen/id have even acknowledged their nominations? Obviously the JPs nominated probably don't even know this shit is happening kek.

>>64645152
I'm sure she learned her lesson and will pay the participation fees now. She's got sponsor money after all

>>64645034
Was her singing a rap song while barely keeping up with the lyrics. It was pretty funny because she was stumbling/mumbling over every single word EXCEPT for Nigga, and ended up blurting it out.

>>64644910
Don't give a shit.

>>64645182
How can you even tell?
If it's after emotes, a lot of streamers have Gura and other Holomember emotes.

>>64644992
Wouldn't be surprised if a JP sent something in because they didn't know what it was and it sounded important, just like Cover made more noise about Gura's win than Gura.

>>64645182
>Boosting her algo
Disgusting.

>>64645171
>>>/out/
>not even 10 points above that one, another conspiracy theory
lol

>at one point, NijiEN passed NijiJP
>at one point NijiEN was less than half HoloEN
what the hell happened? That is the ONLY branch achieving such a spectacular decilne over time

I don't think I have ever heard of this fire girl

ENTER THE NIGHTMARE OF NIJI

Anyone streaming over this doesn't support vtubers.

Watching the nobody award. Seriously?

holy shit that woman has a nice voice

>>64645422
Heavenly mandate ended with a yo momma joke.

filians twitch chat spam and trash compared to her YouTube chat. It's disgusting.

Is this gonna be the game thread for the award’s show?

>>64645422
Yo mama jokes

Twitch 20k
Youtube 2.7k

>>64645503
>Falseeyed
Awful.

What's a pre-show?

>Filian’s Twitch chat is barely moving faster than her YT chat and most of it is literal spam

>>64644946
Not with Kiara’s 3D later unless botter-kun is dumping his monthly paycheck on it

I can't believe Filian got Watari Hibari from Nijisanji JP to host her show.

>>64645595
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I7YvsJrCUlY
oh lol its the chick with this cover

>>64645449
RIGGED.

FUCKING RIGGED IN FAVOR OF HOLONIGS

>Camila
That musician that made music for EN?

>>64645503
Anyway, I'm bored. Let's listen to some music.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yJStEHvbxZw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XpgSrULHibg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZpE3oRKpJQE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BGsUL6xQ3LI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Yu5N07EgUg

>>64645709
>falsefaggot
the absolute state

Can anyone really believe these award’s are fair and objective when one of the announcers is a hard core NijiEN anti?

>>64645714

>>64645640
There were more people watching the advent collab last night...

>>64645756
No, the the one who shat on Shondo for being pedobait and now spends all her time dickriding Vedal.

>>64645756
Ye. Did a song with Ina and did the intro song for IRyS, if I remember correctly

>>64645756
nope, that's Camellia

>Fauna getting passed by Bae
>getting mogged by Advent in regular streams
>Getting mogged by Mori in ASMR
>Not going to win some award despite being a Holo

>>64645422
Omega and it's consequences has been a disaster for the human race.

Imagine being on par with HoloJP, the absolute cream of the crop, to being 2nd closer to 3rd than first. That's more pathetic than NijiEN's downfall.

>>64645687
Anon? Is this your first time ever seeing Twitch chat?
Twitch buffers the chat every few seconds so that you can read a chunk. It's the first thing every single Twitch streamer complained about YT when moving, that they can't read the chat anymore.

The Literally Who Awards 2023

>>64645776
Cutie.

>>64645886
Unironic skill issue

I expect our spies to inform us of the winners.

>>64645756
No, it's the pink one here.
>>64645503

>>64645823
I don't see any antis there. Just some random vtuber girl and a drama guy. I'm completely non-bias in this case. Just watching while waiting for Fuwamoco Rockin Rawr Party.

>>64645928
Yeah, Cocoa a cutie

>>64645939
Just look at the shows Twitter account. They will post the winners

>>64645714
I remember that this caused a controversy, but I don't remember what the controversy actually was.
Needless to say, I'm not clicking that.

All the anons watching the awards, only announce the winners in this thread if its Hololive
Other than that we dont care....

>>64645823
>hard core NijiEN anti
That's everyone with a brain.

Did they announce any winners yet?

>>64645595
yeah idk why they put her alongside some dude with voice changer lol

>>64645776
>Tenri
Still love her.

Sounds and looks like a discount Nerissa.

>>64646030
That's the one twitter found and decided to shit on her for being a vtuber and doing a cover when she can't sing very well.

>>64644374
just tuned in, did I miss any winners yet?

>>64644778
Don't need to be a kenzoku to appreciate good art

>>64646175
No

>>64646051
>we
Fuck off we like filian here

BOOO THIS BITCH IS FAUNA’S COMPETITION

GOLD
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xTkyYL4svGg

>>64646229
>we

>>64646171
>Twitter decided to shit on her
Now I am clicking that.

>>64646229
... I don't think so? Not especially.

>>64646187
True, but it means it's less likely people have Towa pictures.

>>64646240
If Fauna wins this despite her literally ignoring all fucking mentions of this award show then the entire thing is goddamn pathetitc.

>>64646240
With competition like that I don't want any Holo to win. Just let those awards rot among those 2views.

Oh? CottentailVA get a model that doesn't look like a bratz doll?

>>64646302
Too big.

>>64645595
>>64645714
hmm, 4chan didn't like the first Choco image.
Anyway, as I was saying, you don't automatically get to be a good singer just because you have a nice voice.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EEcid7RHPEs

>>64646321
Everyone has Towa pictures

>Some guy told me this awards show would get 160k+ viewers easily if all of the indies banded together
Where the fuck are the people? This show would be lucky enough to break holoEN 3D showcase numbers.

>>64646281
Not bad.
The numbers, that is. The lyrics are godawful.

This sure seems like a good opportunity to attach popular vtuber names to something where unpopular vtubers can vie for new viewers through short self shill interviews

Um, why so many tallies? The last time I'm here it was just two tally, the overall one and the EN one

>>64646413
No such thing

>>64646051
>we

>>64646495
That's exactly the point of this vtuber award.

>>64646495
No way!

Inb4 FWMC will appear later on

>>64646495
I never thought about it that way.

>>64646051
>we

>>64646523
Those two are the only relevant ones, everything else are either meme or shitposting tallies and must be disregarded.

I can’t wait until they announce chumbuds win most devoted fanbase lmao

>>64646495
Who is this? This is an insightful post, so she must be smart. I'm always looking for clever chuubas to watch.

>>64646661
that would be accurate tho, they are alive despite everything

>>64646635
They say the Aqua viewers are the greatest thinkers of the board

>>64646523
All tallies are shitposts

>>64642763
they should publish both winners and fan favorites, but they won't

>Bloodborne doll
Cute
>Actual tranny
Stream closed.

>thinking they will give any awards to Hololive members who will ignore their shitty award show
I can only see FWMC winning since they acknowledged them

>>64646763
Babiniku.

>>64642763
>jury 90% of vote
Oh… This is going to be a disaster, isn’t it?

>>64646523
Those are still the only real ones, every once in a while some 14 year old indonesian shows up wanting to become a thread celebrity by making a new tally that they keep up for 2 weeks before losing interest but what can you do

I'm having more fun seeing Anons' reactions to the Vtuber awards than watching it.

Towaposter I insist you desist! Lewds today should go to the winners of the vtubies

>>64646763
babiniku new fag

>>64646858
anon...

>>64646782
Kiara also shilled them

>>64646051
>we

>>64642274
>Is there a way Cover can reconcile the dueling fandom opinions of Stars getting too much support at the expense of the girls and the Stars not getting enough support from management (and thr girls)?
CASTRATE HOMOSTARS COMPLETELY - CUT THEIR DICK & BALLS OFF & ONLY THEN THEY CAN COLLAB WITH HOLOS

>taa lewd instead of Okayusex
Why are you guys so gay

>>64646880
Towa is always the winner

>>64646895
This is not global, don’t shit up the thread with this shit

>>64644374
>falseeyed
nijisisters, don't look!

>>64646858
anon, different show. This one is 100% audience vote.

>>64646923
banana is good for you anon

>>64646495
all these type events even outside of vtubing are just a big advertisement platforms for products or people.

Why are Towa posters in /#/? Are they lost.

>>64646922
Aruran grew his dick and balls back by reversing time or dimension hopping or whatever, so that won't do it.

>>64646880
>today
Vtubies are "tomorrow" anon.

>>64647070
>>64646976

>>64646923

>>64645503
Everyone streaming over this is a hero

>>64646858
It's a vote by viewers, but what do you get when your vote is mostly Twitch fags because the JP and Youtube side of things doesn't know who you fuck you are or care.

>>64645881
thank God for Advent. This December is already better than last year

>Ads so embeded they appear on youtube
Wait, is showing sponsored content even allowed on youtube without specifying it?

Man, fuck this shit. This racing game asshole ad is the first one I've seen in more than a decade now. Fuck this show.

PHASE ON SCREEN!!!
TENMA!!!!

Ngl phase’s models are pretty good, way better then all the ugly indie ones before

Bruh it's been almost an hour and they haven't announced any winners?

>>64647077
Fucking italian black magic, sick shit
https://youtu.be/iOf5Bz30jyM?si=ZbN8FsLoYuM6KTap

>>64647368
Buy an ad

https://twitter.com/Selen_Tatsuki/status/1736153082193719471
False is gonna interview Selen and Mika, lmao

>Panko
Isn't she that one girl with tons of good AI lewds

>>64647077
WHAT? Damn it aruran, thats why you were one of the good ones

>>64647236
It's not, but YT doesn't always punish channels for that

>>64647396
there were a shit ton of retards who were complaining that some awards at the VGA's were given out during the pre-show

Ok, this is cringe

not subtle, buy an ad

Enter

fucking kek

>>64647436
stealth suspension imminent

>>64647436
Who and who?

Enter fat dragon

>>64647236
Technically no, but Youtube has never done anything about it.

>>64647543
bodyswap, noice

>no false
FUCK

>>64647543
>Whoa look at this neck, am I high or what?

>you niggas still bronze in apex?

>>64647506
lol fauna being associated with a porn site

Enter the botter's real oshi

>Selen literally the first one to drop a cuss word during this award’s show
Why is she so crude?

So? Will Gura be presenting an award?

>>64647543
kek
is this the graduation and pre-graduation train?

>>64647034
>thinking it won’t be rigged

>>64647728
Tenma did it first

>>64647674
>>Whoa look at this neck,
>>64647682
kek

#Ad

it's on yt btw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lv0ZcQ6nGYo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lv0ZcQ6nGYo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lv0ZcQ6nGYo

The only thing more cringe than telling people to vote for you for this award is to actually be present on the event.

Anybody that is here is unironically immediately on probation,

what is this anime shit?

Oh is this the person who worked on that Myth Bad End shit

Wait, has Fillian appeared in the stream yet?
Or just in transitions?

>>64647851
vtubers bud

>>64647682
It will never not be funny to me she had to get pred in the ranked season that everyone agreed didn't matter just to keep her pride

>>64647815
>it's on yt btw
umm I'm watching it with me fellow Filipino homies here https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xTkyYL4svGg

>>64647815
That much is known.
No one wants to watch it.

>>64647871
https://twitter.com/mazumaro/status/1734011255781031971
Oh hey I was right

>>64647894
and she was boosted, too

Who the fuck is that boss baby looking nigga?

>>64647873
Are you a timelord? Or was that just coincidence?

Gosegu a cute.

ENTER KOREAN MATRIARCHY

>>64647977
you'll watch it like everyone else

>>64646880
Towa is more relevant lol

>>64647871
Its crazy, he did that project on his own for fun, later on got picked up by Kiara to do her outfit reveal, and now getting hired by corpos. The Hololive Work pipeline is real

>>64647815
Didn't ask.

Why does the mere existence of non Holos make.you guys so mad? What a bunch of corpo cocksuckers lmao.

>>64647815
youtube doesnt have 7tv emotes why the fuck would you watch it there

>>64647954
>gosegu appears right away
lol

GOOK LANGUAGE KEK

The fuck was with those two.

>>64647841
That's not how this works at all. Only girls I don't like are on probation. As long as the action doesn't make me dislike the girl, she gets away with it. Retards here making probation lists are the discord mods of vt.

>>64648113
The only one mad here is you

>>64648059
lol, I was just posting blue Fillian.

surely this breaks 100k right?

Combined total predictions?
At ~30k currently on Twitch / YT

Oh look it's the piss drinker shamelessly plugging her channel

>I'm in a corpo too, watch us!

>>64648113
>comes here exclusively to seethe
>lol u mad
RUMAO

>>64648229
not when everyone can live react to it

I despise twitch niggers so much this is the first time I heard the isegaya something korean girl I know from the twitch charts kek

>>64648171
Sorry, sister. Probation is voted by majority. If enough anons day a girl is on probation, they are

>$150 tier

>p-please watch our leech award show

>>64648068
I'm playing GSGs

>>64647894
It's just like these awards. It goes on their cv and wikis and there are no asterisks there that say *award itself was shit or *season was shit
So the nuance is stripped away but the glory isnt

>>64648369
HOW
HOW DO YOU GET WORSE THAN TEMPUS' $100 TIER
HOLY FUCK

>>64648343
no one asked

Filian is a super star

Okay, I've been playing a Touhou fangame for the last hour, only got a No-Miss, what happened?
Did they already present the awards?

Event actually starting btw

You know if Hololive wins any of these awards, we are getting congratulations tweet from HoloEN official account....

>>64648075
Really? Really, anon? You disingenuous piece of shit, tell that to my boy Kev Cow

I wouldn't mind smooching Filian.

That's it? The big vtuber award is a 20k stream?

Filian is unironically cute and i'm tired of pretending she's not

holy shit it's starting!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aPz_0kh2cSI

wtf is this shit? this is just a twitch circlejerk right?