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Shower edition

>> No.6454622

>Kuzuha doesn't stream if there's someone else from his company getting a lot of viewers
Numberfag confirmed

>> No.6454651

6 Nijis, 2 Indies, 1 Patra, and 16 Holos. This is actually an improvement. Before it would be 4 Nijis. Ib's mc reps are showing results.

>> No.6454681

ame bus was kino

>> No.6454744

what did Korone play to get 29K?

>> No.6454765

>>6454533
>Coomer shit beating Pekora playing a fun and different game
sad. also drop the noeflare shit if you aren't going to commit to liking flare.

>> No.6454776

>>6454651
2 of those 6 nijis are from yesterday actually

>> No.6454802

>>6454744
She didn't play anything. She read hololive staff's feedback on her and announced a new outfit.

>> No.6454808

>>6454651
I guess they finally realized that there is more to streaming than just APEX and your FOTM JRPG. I just wonder if they will ever be able actually "create a story" around their collaborative games.

>> No.6454822

>>6454765
>coomer shit
do you jerk off to the sound of your shower or something?

>> No.6454879
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6454879

This is the hourly for today. Irys took 3 hours whole for a timeslot that is not good for JPs and very late for NA

>> No.6454915

>>6454879
is always good to have less dead hours

>> No.6455050

>>6454879
>29-19k
>first stream
oof, that's a dud.

>> No.6455097 [DELETED] 

>>6455050
It's similar numbers to EN 1 debut but has a lower bottom because the stream went on for so long and goes into NA bedtime.

>> No.6455116

>>6455097
It really isn't, shark was at least twice that

>> No.6455143

>>6455097
dont interact with the baitposter, he doesn`t want to have any serious discussion

>> No.6455145 [DELETED] 

>>6455116
She is slightly higher then everyone but memeshark who was blessed by the numbergods. She will be fine and probably stabilize somewhere between Ina and Ame numbers.

>> No.6455273

>>6454533
am I mistaken or is Vshojo making less appearances in the top 25 as of late?

>> No.6455295

>>6454533
>>6454651
9 Holos got 20k+ live viewers.
Ibraham got 2 around that range but all of which are Minecraft streams aka 1 trick pony like Kuzuha's Apex.
Damn, Nijis really need to step up their game in order to compete.

>> No.6455304

>>6455145
she has zero potential with an average singing voice and a bad design. she isn't even Watame tier.

>> No.6455308

>>6455050
She picked the absolute worst timeslot to serve. IRyS needs to try targeting the 10pm EST/EDT slot if at all possible consistently to build a base there or she would have to move to late JP prime time to even be relevant to anyone west of Jerusalem.

>> No.6455357

Weekly VOD numbers
https://panora.tokyo/archives/29604

>> No.6455367

>>6455304
cope

>> No.6455382

>>6455367
it's not a cope, she's a poor EN2 pick, maybe they did it on purpose to make the real EN2 girls look better?

>> No.6455387

>>6454765
>playing a fun and different game
Do you only watch Hololive? Because everyone was playing gartic phone around a month ago.

>> No.6455404

>>6455382
cope

>> No.6455411

>>6455387
I mean for Hololive, I saw Mito and Ars and others play it too. For once Pekora is doing something new and it gets...average views.

>> No.6455474

>>6455304
Where are your numbers to prove that. She's at 423k now. Mind you that she hit 400k during her stream. Her EP topped several itunes chart in multiple countries. People are interested in her regardless. She has gotten 123k subs since her debut. If people are repulsed by what they show, they sure have a weird way of showing it.

>> No.6455544

>>6455273
When is the NijiEN girl's collab with Melody?
maybe they are getting ready for that?

>> No.6455560

>>6455474
Sure is weird how there are so many subs in a short time, but so few viewers.

>> No.6455594

>>6455474
The only thing I can hope from this is that Azki start streaming again in a regular way like before after her 2D update. Just twice a week is fine. I hope she collabs with Irys since they both live in Tokyo.

>> No.6455646

>casting for hololive ENGLISH
>pick someone in Japan
>stream in timezones awful for NA/EU
>have L2D that looks like a potato
explain.

>> No.6455649

>>6455544
Melody never makes it to the charts anyways. Im talking about Nyanners, Ironmouse and Veibae

>> No.6455674

>>6455560
650k views, 425k subs
seems pretty normal to me

>> No.6455676

>>6455560
29k during JP dead hours and dead late for half of the NA timezones is not "few" Her debut is at 1M views already. Ame and Ina's is at 1M views as well. Kiara is at 888k

>> No.6455688

>>6455676
given JP/EN built up the brand more, 29k is awful for a first stream.

>> No.6455689
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6455689

>>6455560
>but so few viewers.
You tell me, anon. Where are the majority of English viewers?

>> No.6455736

>>6455688
What is your basis for awful. Give me numbers to prove your retardation. I bet you were one of those braindeads that was estimating her debut would have 200k-500k live viewers

>> No.6455739

>>6455689
how can people even watch this hideous garbage
quite literally the worst vtuber model ive ever seen

>> No.6455764

>>6455736
shark with zero hype had 70k for maneater I believe? this is 29k with EN building the brand for EOPs globally.

>> No.6455793

>>6455739
still seething I see broniechama

>> No.6455801
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6455801

>>6455739
anon has already proven how much of an idiot you are, I`d suggest you to shut up

>> No.6455805

>>6455764
Zero hype?
Gura was hyped as fuck what are you talking about. Or are you a new fav?

>> No.6455838

>>6455308
Anon, it was literally at 10pm est, what the fuck are you smoking?

>> No.6455839

>>6455739
I don't disagree with the appearance of her model being "not appealing", but I guess people will watch anything when they have nothing else to look at. In any case, I think the model is the least concerning thing in the mind of a person that watches VTubers.

>> No.6455843

>>6455560
People click the stream, see that grotesque monstrosity, and leave instantly.
It still registers as a view, therefore her VODs are not that bad. But live numbers will always be a strugle, until she gets a redesign or a 3d

>> No.6455847

>>6455764
70k was her debut, retard. Stop shitting up this thread already

>> No.6455858 [DELETED] 

>>6455764
40k not 70, you're just concern trolling at this point. Vod viewers make up most of the english watch time anyways and have always been a better metric for interest for any streamer.

>> No.6455881

>>6455764
Ony Gura had those numbers. The only reason why Ame had better number on her 2nd stream because it was a collab. Is this your.proof? Nothing more? Nothing to scale at? If you consider the average for all 5 holoEN, Irys getting 29k is standard but if you consider the timeslot. It's impressive

>> No.6455888
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6455888

>>6443359
>I want to see matuli's chart
Like Aki and Mel, one of the few Holos not to benefit from the "Lapiz Lazuri" to "PekoMoona" Hololive incline mostly because she was doing her own things in the period.

Her views trail her subs hard too, mostly because she is one of the "gateway" Holos for EOP, lots of people got their first contact with Hololive either via "I am Hololive" clip; "I'm a hard working girl" cat Mario clip or, most notably, "went to school wearing band aids for bra" clip, which does not reflect her character or her streams the littlest.

Here is all of her streams with 10k+ peak, despite having Lyger on her camp she doesn't really care at all about EOP audience
>2021-06-04 :: 29810/37724 :: 【#ホロカラ覗き見】ホロライブのカラオケを覗き見!? / 3Dstream【ホロライブ/夏色まつり】
>2021-07-01 :: 19145/25891 :: すこしだけ
>2021-05-30 :: 19080/23544 :: 【APEXガチャ】半年間徳をつみました。いけます!【ホロライブ/夏色まつり】
>2021-01-02 :: 16813/22659 :: 【ガチ親】ママはVTuber志望らしい。【ホロライブ/夏色まつり】
>2021-06-01 :: 14567/17952 :: 【#夏色まつり3周年】3周年だ!あれもこれも見せちゃいます!【ホロライブ/夏色まつり】
>2021-06-01 :: 11606/15826 :: 【100万人耐久】歌って歌って歌い続けろ!【ホロライブ/夏色まつり】
>2021-01-03 :: 10082/14570 :: 【APEXガチャ】新年でめでたいし天井じゃなくてもひける説【ホロライブ/夏色まつり】
>2021-07-03 :: 7575/12101 :: 【Minecraft】おまつりまだ間に合いますか?【ホロライブ/夏色まつり】
>2021-03-28 :: 7790/11345 :: 【耐久】90万人超耐久!歌い続けろ!【ホロライブ/夏色まつり】
>2021-01-06 :: 7042/10848 :: 【マリオカート8DX】補助輪卒業2日目!まつりの成長みてね!先生ッ!【ホロライブ/夏色まつり】
>2021-01-05 :: 7266/10763 :: 【マリオカート8DX】補助輪卒業!ショートカットを覚える!【ホロライブ/夏色まつり】
>2021-07-05 :: 6985/10273 :: 【Minecraft】よふかし('ω')【ホロライブ/夏色まつり】
>2021-05-27 :: 8781/10107 :: 【#from1st前夜祭】ついに明日はライブ当日だぁ!!【ホロライブ/夏色まつり】

>> No.6455890

it's over ENbros... we're going to get mogged by nijis and holoJP forever now

>> No.6455914
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6455914

>>6455888
And here are her Q3 and Q4 streams over 10k, her greatest hits were mostly special events and collabs.
Matsuri didn't actually change, it is Hololive that grew massively around her while she stays put and does her thing. Same for Fubuki, for instance
>2020-10-28 :: 36217/49961 :: 【新衣装お披露目】本気の新衣装!ラフ案まで全部見せますッ!【ホロライブ/夏色まつり】
>2020-07-28 :: 34867/46038 :: 【新live2Dお披露目会】生まれ変わったまつりを見て!!【ホロライブ/夏色まつり】
>2020-07-22 :: 25276/30766 :: 【#夏色まつり誕生祭3D】夏色まつり誕生祭2020本日の主役はこのまつり!!【ホロライブ/夏色まつり】
>2020-06-20 :: 22195/30656 :: 【3Dライブ】2周年記念!今夜だけはまつりが主役!【ホロライブ/夏色まつり】
>2020-11-29 :: 18077/25355 :: 【APEXガチャ】地獄へようこそ。天井でしかひけない女が奇跡を起こす!?【ホロライブ/夏色まつり】
>2020-12-25 :: 17776/23577 :: 【#ホロライブクリスマス】SINGING!!プレゼントはお歌でどうですか!【ホロライブ/夏色まつり】
>2020-08-20 :: 14327/21346 :: 【APEX】キルするまでしゃべれない地獄!?【姫森ルーナ/白上フブキ/夏色まつり】
>2020-11-17 :: 16512/21049 :: 【オフコラボ】みんなでピザを囲んで女子会!!【夏色まつり/星街すいせい/天音かなた/桃鈴ねね】
>2020-12-02 :: 13042/17409 :: 【Phasmophobia】唯一ホラーが苦手なJKがプロ幽霊調査隊に強制送還!?【白上フブキ/夏色まつり】
>2020-09-01 :: 14725/17271 :: 【3D】祝!50万人記念!!暴れる!!【ホロライブ/夏色まつり】
>2020-12-27 :: 13688/16770 :: 【桃太郎電鉄】今宵は戦争じゃいッッッ!!!!!!!!!【鷹宮リオン/フレン・E・ルスタリオ/白銀ノエル/夏色まつり】
>2020-10-15 :: 11171/15569 :: 【ガチャ】APEX100連ガチャで沼発狂RTA!?【ホロライブ/夏色まつり】
>2020-10-17 :: 11744/15067 :: 【Minecraft】ホロトラップダンジョン制作!~素材集め編~#1【ホロライブ/夏色まつり】
>2020-11-24 :: 9325/13717 :: 【#ホロライブ運動会】運動場貸し切り!ぼっちの運動会!?【ホロライブ/夏色まつり】
>2020-10-20 :: 9277/13691 :: 【晩酌】よってま~す!!YEEEEEEEE!!【ホロライブ/夏色まつり】
>2020-11-03 :: 7674/12067 :: 【Human Fall Flat】私服組の楽しいおデート・・・?【白銀ノエル/夏色まつり】
>2020-08-14 :: 8540/11601 :: 【Fall Guys】ガチギレ注意!?I am No.1!!【ホロライブ/夏色まつり】
>2020-12-12 :: 9614/11322 :: 【オフコラボ】チキン食べながら歌ったりお話したり!!【小鳥遊キアラ/夏色まつり】
>2020-07-12 :: 7654/10790 :: 【マイクラらぶらぶ計画】嫉妬の激情に呑まれたルーナ姫に許してもらうためにある計画を始める....!【ホロライブ/夏色まつり】
>2020-11-21 :: 7202/10707 :: 【#ホロライブ運動会】写真家まつりとみる思い出の写真たち【ホロライブ/夏色まつり】
>2020-07-04 :: 5695/10546 :: 【APEX】1時間で出したダメージ=明日の食費!【ホロライブ/夏色まつり】
>2020-10-20 :: 7989/10539 :: 【Minecraft】ホロトラップダンジョン制作!~素材集め編~#2【ホロライブ/夏色まつり】
>2020-08-10 :: 6982/10345 :: 【APEX】1時間で出したダメージ=明日の食費!贅沢orもやし?【ホロライブ/夏色まつり】
>2020-06-30 :: 5706/10343 :: 【PIEN】ホラゲ苦手でもこれなら余裕でしょwww【ホロライブ/夏色まつり】
>2020-10-24 :: 5425/10222 :: 【歌枠】いつもお疲れ様!癒します!【ホロライブ/夏色まつり】

>> No.6455918

>>6455838
Wait, did she move it or did I mess with my calculus? I was under the perception that it was 11pm EDT.

>> No.6455933

>>6454533
>gawr gura
>14k
LMAO
now i see the reason of all the holocope

>> No.6455937

>>6455843
>if everything else fails, claim that vod viewers only watch one second of it
lmao here`s you are with your final cope again

>> No.6455940

>>6455764
Gura was found out to be HER on debut so many people were very hyped on her first stream

>> No.6455964

>>6455843
She kept up 25k+ on the first hour, then she 22 in the second and them 20k on the third. The only person that can keep up with this number is Gura herself on a good game

>> No.6455974
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6455974

>People comparing EN AZKI to regular vtubers

>> No.6455976

we can already report baitposter as spam/flooding at this point, can`t we?

>> No.6455987

>>6455843
Average singer by holo standards, bad L2D, not good at zatsudan/talking

She will be Ina tier without Ina's talent. (she deserves more viewers btw)

>> No.6455989

>>6455937
but it is exactly how holotourists contribute
click the stream, leave a like, then go back at shitposting on vt and farming reddit karma

>> No.6456019

>>6455987
Why are you even here in numbers

>> No.6456050 [DELETED] 

>>6455937
Yeah it is always cope, on aggregate higher vod views = more people who watched the vod, there will always be a portion of one second people on every stream/vod bigger vod view is more interest.

>> No.6456055

>>6455989
cope

>> No.6456093

>>6456019
I'm discussing why Irys is a flop specifically with numbers. Given gen 1 got a billion subs, it's a disappointment.

>> No.6456094

>>6455918
The one she had for yesterday the one hand clapping was at 7 pm pdt aka 10 pm est. the one today is going to be at 11 pm est. she is moving her time further and further away from the best time slot no doubt there but this could be her trying to figure out the best time slot for herself. The karaoke being at 11 pm pdt/ 2 am est is a bad choice though.

>> No.6456117

>>6456093
so you are just here to cope

>> No.6456120

>>6456019
to shit up the thread

>> No.6456136

>>6456117
Cope? All that hype and she is shit and has a shit design, it's a swing and a miss objectively.

>> No.6456171

>>6456136
yes, you are coping hard. Sad

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6456196

>>6456171
>redjuice is a great arti-

>> No.6456243

>>6456196
still coping, sad

>> No.6456275

>>6456196
>144p
is the internet that bad there at SEA?

>> No.6456279

The weird thing is Miko always on top viewers ranking but didnt appear on SC ranking for months. What happen?

>> No.6456285

>>6456196
h-holobros i do not feel so good...
first time it was huke, how it is redjuice... why...

>> No.6456286

>>6456019
He didn’t get enough (you)s in the split thread so he’s shutting up this thread

>> No.6456303

>>6456285
Just have Pochi make more designs, literally all they have to do.

>> No.6456311

>>6456196
>>6456243
Anons, if you are going for a shitflinging contest, just make another thread, it's free and easy rather than shitting up this thread

>> No.6456370

>>6456094
Amelia is playing MC to 3.8k viewers. Kanata was getting 20k during the same timeslot. Maybe there is a divide between jp and en viewers

>> No.6456381

>>6456311
nice try schizo but this is not your playground

>> No.6456413

>>6456094
That's the one that especially needs to be a 10pm EDT for sure. Thanks for informing me of the times. I'll have to look at her schedule again to make sure I got this shit straight.

>> No.6456452

>>6456370
she was just doing supa sunday and then suddenly decided to minecraft in the middle of it

>> No.6456707

>>6454533
What happened to Gura's collab? Isn't 14k kinda low for her? I was expecting higher

>> No.6456793

>>6456707
This proves that she needs to stay in her own timeslot for these MC streams unless they JP MC server because increases the chance of interaction with a JP senpai and people would want to see how she reacts to the different contraptions. The EN server has no novelty.

>> No.6456823

>>6456707
>She was streaming outside of her regular hours. Start from there.

>> No.6456893

>>6456707
it is also from yesterday, her real peak (17300 live) was cut

>> No.6456904

>>6456793
Maybe she should venture to collabing with the JPs. Obviously collabing with ENs just pulls her down

>> No.6456956

>>6456904
she doesnt care too much about the live numbers, and the vod numbers are still there for the collabs

>> No.6456971

>>6455308
I don't see it working out for IRyS trying to buttheads with Gura's timeslot. Even Ame learned to either start earlier or hit the late night window to avoid 8-10 est on nights where shark streams.

>> No.6456992

>>6456823
What the hell? I didn't even have anything in my clipboard and that arrow came from nowhere.

>> No.6457044

>that privated pekora stream
lol that's the one with this guy isn't it
https://twitter.com/MinionPussie

>> No.6457060

IRyS - :Caesura of Despair - EP Rank 17 on iTunes WW

>> No.6457094

>>6456971
Yeah. They probably reached a consensus to not clash your major stream time with another EN. You usually have Kiara already reading her SCs by the time Ina starts and then you would have an Amelia or a Gura. And then Mori will start JP primetime. Irys has to play in the middle of that. Only slot she can take is Mori's slot in the JP mid day.

>> No.6457177

>>6456793
This is missing the point, playing on the JP server isn't going to fix streaming in jp timeslot when most of her viewers are Americans (maybe some Euros but they never show up in the numbers).

>> No.6457179

>>6456971
I don't know if bringing one of the more inconsistent streamers in Hololive is helpful to your case. Mind you, Gura and IRyS may only have singing in common and that is likely were the difference will be split. This only begs the question as to who is are target audience. Is it Yorups and night owls? I don't know if west coast weebs will be enough to support her audience.

>> No.6457194

>>6457044
This is why we can't have nice things. Ina already alluded to this months before. This is the reason why she can't immediately host a stream where community art is done real time because some retard will do this.

>> No.6457230

>>6457044
give it a week and the jp nousagis will do their work

>> No.6457241

>>6457177
She got 40k in the last Usaken. She was the 3rd on the most viewed because everyone wanted to see her POV. Everytime someone enters the JP server with fresh eyes, they get a boost no matter what. Even Mio got a boost playing MC JP afternoon

>> No.6457278

>>6457044
Why are there stupid shitheads like this in the fandom

>> No.6457302

>>6457179
Irys seems to be getting some SEA-EOPS and a handful of JP viewers. A lot of NA are going to be vod watchers which is not that bad considering a majority of her content should be 4min MVs.

>> No.6457562

>>6457278
Holofags have always been like this, this guy probably takes the cake but even before hololive got popular their eop viewers have been absolute retards, but at least there's a lot of them am I right numberbros?

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6457607

>>6457562
kys

>> No.6457660

>>6457302
this is going to be a serious problem with the future gens, scheduling problems

>> No.6457696

>>6457562
They should gatekeep it harder. EOPs always make the fanbase worse.

>> No.6457764

>>6457562
A bunch of holofags are normal weebs, They have jobs. They are in college. They spend their birthday money on these girls on special occasions. I bet most of them are beta-cucks that will be quick to rationalize any bad behavior they will see in their oshi. Casuals. This one is an outlier. A very loud outlier. I;m surprised that it took this long for this kind of thing to happen. There were some weirdoes back then when they were just starting. Pekora had a troll before sending a marshmallow about Flare saying she fainted. It's a nip. She panicked and got stressed out.

>> No.6457822

>>6457660
You see this in HoloJP. A lot stream at the same time or even just 30 mins apart. What I do appreciate is that they give way for major events. They try to even hype it up by redirecting them to the said event

>> No.6457863

>>6457660
Inevitably they’ll have to overlap, there simply aren’t enough primo EN slots to go around. They’ll need to develop a real fanbase who will pick them over the other girls.

>> No.6458354

Out of curiosity, how long did it take for HoloEn (except Gura) to stabilize in subgrowth? And by stabilize I mean something like below 10k per week. I kinda want to see if IRyS has a shot at 1mil by end of the year if she follows the average curve that Holomyth had.

>> No.6458454

My prediction for IRyS has changed a bit. I was thinking yesterday that she will probably be in the middle (average popularity for Holo EN) in terms of popularity after the honeymoon phase; however, there are certain factors to consider.
Advantages:
1. It’s a single VTuber with all of Holo EN viewers going to her channel, rather than a release of 5 new girls. That in itself is a major boost, especially to subs. Most Holo EN viewers are subbing to her for now.
2. She sings decent. Her music is better than Mori, but not better than Gura (my opinion). Mori has higher subs than you would expect her to have, likely because of her music uploads. That bonus also goes to IRyS now. This will help to retain viewers in the long run. Also YouTube LOVES music uploads, and gives major subs to channels that do it.
3. Even though her older VTubing stuff doesn’t seem too great to me, it all under a Hololive label now, which is going to give more of a boost than I intentionally expected. The Cover boost is crazy.

Overall she might even end up second to Gura after she comes down a bit from the boost you get for being new. We shall see I guess.

>> No.6458476

>>6457660
>>6457822
>>6457863
This is less of a problem given their size and the time zone spread of the demographic. Coco was talking about Hololive's hard cap on the roster in the YAGOO interview, and he said there is no hard cap, but that is obviously false and the hard cap is decided by time and the size of the audience. HoloJP's audience is not big enough for the amount that they have streaming at times.

Judging by HoloJP current viewership, I believe the optimum size for the EN branch is no greater then 24, preferably less than16. Given that viewership has already sort of stabilized, adding too many will only end up impacting the group negatively.

The more important change going forward is having the talents have more variety in terms of regular content besides their particular talent specialties.

>> No.6459070

>>6457278
Mito never had an issue, EOPs are stupid toddlers

>> No.6459153

>>6457562
better than actual stalkers

>> No.6459197

>>6458454
There is no way she'll be that high, her design is already a pretty big filter, one that is exacerbated by her poor streaming set up. Plus her chosen timeslots is in the primetime of fucking nowhere. she'll probably do decently once the honeymoon period wears off but it'd probably be similar to Mori's performance where her songs get plenty of hits but her regular streams gets 5-7k

>> No.6459255

>>6458354
Per wayback machine:
Oct22:
Mori: 44k
Ame: 47k
Ina: 33k
Kiara: 36k

Nov27:
Mori: 36k
Ame: 31k
Ina: 24k
Kiara: 36k

Dec16:
Mori: 30k
Ame: 35k
Ina: 22k
Kiara: 38k

All 4 of them get 10-20k+ per week even now so their floor isn't below 10k a week.

It's still too early to determine how fast she'll race to a million but I don't think she'll do it any faster than Mori did, and maybe not even as fast as Kiara.

>> No.6459321

>>6457278
>in the fandom
it is literally a retard from /vt/, now how feel of us actually watch streams again?

>> No.6459671

>>6456285
Have you ever commissioned an extremely popular artist before? It takes guts or arrogance to critique someone on that level. Some people cant do it.

>> No.6459797

>>6455646
Brand. At this point recruitment can shit the bed and they'll still get positive results. This is why competition is badly needed right now, Cover is bein extremely complacent. Some hungry ENVtuber company has to supersede them. Its time.

>> No.6459865

>>6459321
Most people here don't even watch clips let alone streams.

>> No.6459882

>>6459197
>There is no way she'll be that high, her design is already a pretty big filter
That’s part of why I considered her to be ending up average (for Holo EN) over time, but the music boost is very real. She seems like she will have a strong work ethic as well. She speaks Japanese with a great desire to collab. I think you might be underestimating her, like I was doing before.
>timeslots
Yep, it’s pretty bad. I mentioned that a lot before, but I still think she will end up above the average popularity for Holo EN. Either 2nd to Gura, or at least 3rd place.

>> No.6459929

>>6459321
>>6459865
The hell. I watch streams. Who would willingly come to this board without watching streams?

>> No.6459953

>>6457060
Is this consider good or bad?

>> No.6460013

>>6459882
who do you see as the current 2nd place though? To me it keeps jumping between mori (when singing, jp collabs), watson (when doing weird shit) or ina (most consistent, but never gets too high views)

>> No.6460111

>>6459797
not gonna happen anytiime soon, they have no competition

>> No.6460139

>>6455649
Only the pink cat and the pink mouse make it into the top25 of Vnuma.
The rest, veibae included, do not.
Altho...I wonder how it will be like if Vnuma allowed chaturbate numbers for Melody.

>> No.6460202

>>6460139
Twitch peak viewership numbers are bullshit anyway because of raids, and with the current vnuma set up you can't tell if the peak numbers are because of raids or because the chuuba actually has that many fans.

>> No.6460205

>>6460139
>chaturbate numbers for Melody.
..do you have them?

>> No.6460387

>>6459953
New figures came in a little while ago, this factors in NA sales.
IRyS - :Caesura of Despair - EP Rank 1
For reference the highest Gura got was Rank 19 and Suisei Rank 48.

>> No.6460404

>>6460013
>who do you see as the current 2nd place though?
That question is EXACTLY why I think IRyS will ultimately end up in 2nd place for Holo EN. In my opinion, besides Gura, the others don’t stand out enough. Ina has good live views, but some consider her boring. Mori has good subs, but comes off awkward and weird during collabs. Overall, they aren’t as exciting as they should be (my opinion). I think IRyS should stand out a bit more, and ultimately hold some of that extra attention as well. And if you compare IRyS to Ame (who you also mentioned), IRyS speaks Japanese and can sing decently, and was decently successful in her past.

Overall I raised expectations for IRyS a bit, but that might just be a problem with Holo EN in general. Meaning, it is in need of greater talent. If it already had it, then maybe IRyS wouldn’t do as well. I think she stands out a bit. I think she could be 2nd.

>> No.6460507

Slept early so I only saw the collab on Kanata's channel and missed the one on Marin's channel. What did they do? Marine gets great numbers, but 81k is outstanding even for her.

>> No.6460522

>>6460507
Shower stream with Noel and Kanata

>> No.6460582

>>6460522
Spicy

>> No.6460663

>Holostats still down
>Problem is that the “poi.cat” domain suddenly stopped resolving
Author updated the source code on GitHub yesterday so it doesn’t look like himself bailing from the project but maybe some oversight on renewing the domain.

>> No.6460813

>>6460404
>end up in 2nd place for Holo EN
In subs or live viewers?

>> No.6460850

>>6459929
Clips and streams are just a gateway into shitposting about chuubas.

>> No.6460956
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6460956

> Irys VOD beating 1M
Youtube most definitely removed her "soft shadowban" because it is trying to suggest me to watch it after run of the mill basic bitch cosplay videos that has nothing to do with chuubas

>> No.6461039

>>6460582
It was surprisingly tame.

>> No.6461054

>>6460956
Recommended means nothing, I get vtuber videos I watched before recommended to me when I'm watching fishtank videos.

>> No.6461100

>>6460956
she´s over 400k already? holy shit, at this rate she´s gonna get half a million in less than a month, that´s pretty insane

>> No.6461152

>>6457044
His friend already got suspended

>> No.6461241

>>6461054
>Recommended means nothing
You may have missed the "soft shadowban" part. The "make or break" for most Holos is whether or not the algorithm will recommend them and it is a "positive reinforcement" system.
For instance, this week
>Subaru Oozora Police got recommended from multiple clippers on homepage and after random videos
>Click one, watch
>Now it starts recommending other Subaru clips not related to Oozora Police
That's on the "happy path" side. The alternative is either what happens to Aki where the algorithm never figured out she's part of the same whole of the other girls and never recommend her at all.

Irys clips getting recommended is already a major thing, Irys very own debut stream being recommended is IMO the reason it quickly reached 1M

>> No.6461267

>>6461100
Anons were not kidding about "next EN gen will debut at 500k subs".
Had them milked her pre debut stage one extra week she might have

>> No.6461338

>>6461100
Any bets on how long it'll take her to hit one million? I say three months but it'd be a damned close thing.

>> No.6461471

>>6461338
Can't make an accurate prediction until after a week I'd say. She still has her debut buff.
She gained 35k subs so far today.

>> No.6461580

>>6460813
In popularity, which means the rate of subs (not total, because others have a head start), and second to Gura in live views. But we will see.

>> No.6461600

>>6461580
>live views
you know damn well that's pretty meaningless for ENs

>> No.6461603

>>6461580
Out of EN alone, I assume

>> No.6461933
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6461933

>Merch collabs paying up big for Mio and Fubuki
Glasses are the ultimate "merchandise": cost of materials don't vary that much but these things can set you back 100 bucks on the frame alone, more if you need prescription lenses

>> No.6462117
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6462117

My genuine surprise here is how high Watame is ranking here. It pays off to grind, it clearly shows

>> No.6462156

>>6461933
well, that glasses look awesome

>> No.6462237

>>6462117
What metric is this?

>> No.6462268

>>6462117
>>6462237
I dont speak moon but for Shibuya Hal to be so high this gotta be something dumb like either total views or live watched hours

>> No.6462587

>>6462268
Just looked it up and you're right. It's hours watched.

>> No.6462608
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6462608

HERE NIGGERS, populate your host files
>104.21.40.105 holo.poi.cat holoapi.poi.cat

Truth be told anyone making any site should just forego DNS completely and just instruct their target audience to populate their host files.
Thank God the kind anon that makes that site decoupled serving the page and fetching the data

>> No.6462795

>>6460663
I've literally come here to see if I'm not the only one, glad to hear I'm not but not glad it still isn't fixed

>> No.6462900

>>6462795
See >>6462608

>> No.6462930

>>6462268
>>6462587
That's Giken's chart so it's always hours watched, I think hours streams x average CCV. Hal's numbers are actually pretty legit when he spams Apex tho. Watame streams Pekora-level hours to 9-10k people regularly so she makes it on the list. Chihiro is the real outlier because she streams like almost twice the hours of an average holo to 5.5k viewers and makes it on the list through sheer # of hours.

https://twitter.com/GikenTV/status/1410525588540952581

>> No.6462974

>>6462900
I'm retarded, I don't understand a thing that is written there, can you explain like you would to like 9 year old?

>> No.6463053

>>6462974
If you don't know about host files it is hard to explain in layman terms. The simplest explanation that doesn't involve holding hands is
>all you need is to edit your hosts files and add that line

From this explanation you can find out the rest yourself

>> No.6463151

>>6463053
ty, that will be enough for me to know what to google

>> No.6463180
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6463180

>I-IRyS-SAMA!?
Gotta say blasting right past Reine in the first day after debut caught me off guard. Even accounting for some slowing she'll blast past 500 before the end of this week.

>> No.6463275
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6463275

>>6455304
Don't use my wife as an insult you fucking nigger

>> No.6463349

No one will remember who ArsE is in a month. She'll be below Kiara in average viewers.

>> No.6463391
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6463391

>>6463349

>> No.6463442

It's actually pretty incredible how timezones don't seem to matter for holoJP viewers. Marine is now streaming minecraft at 7am JST to 12k (will probably end up being ~15k). Watame, Kanata, and Flare sometimes stream all night and their viewership increases to 10k+. Meanwhile, if HoloEN streams doing 9-5 hours, their viewership is vastly different than when they stream at 6-10pm times. Only exception is Ina's drawing streams, which always gets 10k no matter what time she's streaming.

>> No.6463755

>>6463180
dead subs from brand loyalist drones

>> No.6463781

>>6462608
>Truth be told anyone making any site should just forego DNS completely and just instruct their target audience to populate their host files.
lol

>> No.6463804

>>6463755
ai...

>> No.6463927
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6463927

Last day Hololive **averaged** below 7k viewers was May 18.

>> No.6463981

>>6463151
Ty anon >>6463053 I've managed to add it, I feel powerfull and I've learned something new today.

>> No.6464010

>>6463442
Double Ame and Ina's combined viewership.

>> No.6464030

>>6463927
s-sugoi~

>> No.6464140

>>6461600
Live views, VOD views, member numbers, SC numbers, sub numbers, it will all be considered to determine the success of IRyS. It all matters.
>>6461603
Yeah, for EN.

>> No.6464304

>>6463927
Graph anon, I remember you said you wanted to try making separate graphs depending on what the girls are streaming (Minecraft, utawaku, etc). Any progress on that? Lately I've been pretty curious on how big Minecraft buff actually is for the holo girls and whether if it's a flat number or percentage.

>> No.6464518
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6464518

>>6463927
Here is the **AVERAGE** live viewership data per month (without Irys which I still didn't add to this dataset)

>Jul-2020: 8159
>Aug-2020: 10145
>Sep-2020: 9578
>Oct-2020: 12258
>Nov-2020: 12750
>Dec-2020: 9203
>Jan-2021: 9250
>Feb-2021: 8183
>Mar-2021: 7161
>Apr-2021: 7601
>May-2021: 8446
>Jun-2021: 10359
>Jul-2021: 12476

This month is on pace to meet or even beat the best month on Holostats record.
Imagine having chuubas averaging under 10k live viewers to be effectively "below the average for the company".

>>6464304
>Any progress on that?
Soon after I finish including Irys

>>6463981
My pleasure

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6464772

>>6464518
Here is the number of streams averaging over 30k viewers, per month. Things took a jump even on the tail end and it creates momentum that carries forward

>> No.6464819 [DELETED] 

I think the most interesting number from Irys is the subs, nearly 500k in a week for a EN debut being the new standard is crazy. That could be even higher if EN2 does an all day debut scheme similar to EN1.

>> No.6464876

>>6464010
Marine actually fucking bred a blue axolotl in 1 hour. Kanata has bred over 3000 and still not gotten one. She can't stop winning.

>> No.6464898

>>6464518
So they're actually getting back to the vtuber boom levels of viewership now?
I'm assuming the numbers past December are all with the YouTube live viewership adjustments right?
Wonder what Nijisanji's chart would look like but I don't think they have a site like holostats

>> No.6464905

>>6464876
>Marine actually fucking bred a blue axolotl in 1 hour
No fuckin way, when?

>> No.6464962

>>6464898
>the numbers past December are all with the YouTube live viewership adjustments right
Yep but the "blunt" of the effect stops more or less on Dec 31, from 2021 forward the decline was more or less natural

>> No.6465040

>>6455888
Thank you numberchad! You are the saviour of this thread!

>> No.6465066

>>6464962
Yeah I noticed that when I looked at viewership a while back.
Seems like the bubble "popped" around Janurary. Nice to see it's gaining steam again.

>> No.6465205

>>6464518
I feel like since 2021 started, HoloEN has lost the starting hype and are starting to find their core audience, which is normal. There seems to be a need for new blood because their collabs aren't getting the same hype they used to be.
On the other hand, HoloJP is inclining really hard. Marine, Miko, Subaru, Suisei, and Kanata are just a few off the top of my head that were always pretty good numbers wise, but recently they're getting 15-20k+ consistently. It's gotten to the point where we shouldn't compare Kuzuha's apex numbers to Pekora anymore, he's actually closer to Marine.

>> No.6465286

>>6464518
>Jul-2021: 12476
Sorta skewed with Coco's graduation stream?

>> No.6465356

>>6464905
https://youtu.be/6fFnvGUENJg?t=2504

Just now. The Minecraft gods rewarding Marine after that kino bathing stream last night.

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6465396

>>6465205
marine is reclining and doing desperate shit like the coomer pandering stream to stay relevant. uparupa buff wasn't enough for her to beat the gambling chad.

>> No.6465514

>>6465396
i live in your fucking walls faggot post ibrahim one more time and you might not be awake again the next time you sleep

>> No.6465531

>>6465396
> using the same niji picture as last time
You gotta rotate and use multiple different images if you want to pose as a nijinigger.

>> No.6465585

>>6465396
oh so woken up already, SEA baitposter? only 6 hours of sleep must not be very good for your health..

>> No.6465602

>>6465514
Based male defender. GET BEHIND ME IBU

>> No.6465611

>>6465205
>It's gotten to the point where we shouldn't compare Kuzuha's apex numbers to Pekora anymore, he's actually closer to Marine.
Some numbers to back my claim:

Marine: https://vnuma.net/en/streamers/recent/10b192ef2c8440deaf28bb670073d79c/
Kuzuha: https://vnuma.net/en/streamers/recent/87aed2a5322845209736faed39420b72/

>> No.6465745

Marine is winning the numbers game without even playing.

Kneel.

>> No.6465765

>>6465205
HoloEN barely collabs as much as HoloJP, their chemistry is iffy because of the infrequent collabs (time zones) and no real life interactions.
Just compare Gen 5 to EN and the difference is huge.
Personally I think EN2 might be the chance to bring in a breath of fresh air to the branch. Especially if they don't hire 4-5 introverts again.

>> No.6465955

>>6461338
I'd say by the end of august she'll hit 1mill ez

>> No.6466972

>>6459929
/v/ doesn't even play video games, let alone discuss them. What made you think /vt/ was going to watch streams? That's just how 4chan is.

>> No.6467198

I can already tell that Kanata will get high numbers if she streams another blue lizard gacha stream tonight. Marine getting one in under 45mins using her setup is just hilarious. Kanata thrives in these setups.

>> No.6467860

My most recent HoloEN numberfag dream is for HoloEN (Ina in particular) to stream FFXIV. It's totally popping off right now on Twitch, Asmon is getting 100k+ peak viewers per FFXIV stream. We know Ina used to be hardcore in that game and Cover got permissions to stream it so I wonder if they can ride the same trend, instead of playing shit like PSO2. I think HoloEN can get consistent 20k+ if they play it just from the popularity of the game rn.

>> No.6468552

>>6467198
>if she streams another blue lizard gacha
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xlx_cAJP13o
The frame was up before Marine's stream even started. Kanata let out all of her frustration in front of the camera, but probably started celebrating the second she left that room.

>> No.6469282

>>6465205
Hololive EN already lost their hype. Jp always manage to make something big every week. EN on the other hand just streaming like everyday. It feel like EN dont have a real leader.

>> No.6469549

>>6469282
There's just 5 of them, while having a new addition.

Ina - has job
Mori - busy with her music production
Kiara - can take the role, but overly into it, it kills the mood
Gura - i don't know what the fuck keeps her busy when she only released 1 song so far
Ame - want to keeps playing different games (like Korone)

HoloEN need 2 more batches to set their own meta.

>> No.6470142

>>6464962
>>6465066
January would've been propped up by a lot of costume reveals & 3D debuts too. The incline doesn't seem to have been hitting all holos equally though.

>> No.6472496
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6472496

Top 5 when Hololive/Nijisanji year first started vs current year.

>> No.6472649

>>6472496
Interesting, thanks. What can be inferred from this? Toya and Aqua have a pretty stable fanbase huh?

>> No.6472661

>>6469549
Tbf they can always do something new by making big collab events with other chuubas. But welp we'll never see it happen with these autistic introverted girls. And yeah they are too small plus the chemistry just isnt there. They are more individualistic just like JP's 1st Gen minus Sora to connect the dot.

>> No.6472873

>>6472649
most of the niji old guards tbqh like Mito, Toya, Kanae.

>> No.6473299

>>6467860
The difference between someone like Asmon and Ina is that Asmon has carved his audience playing WoW for hours on end and the narrative he's built of 'jaded WoW vet trying something new' (truth, but still compelling story) is pulling all eyes on him since he's basically THE WoW streamer.

Whereas Ina is a chill drawing streamer that doesn't thrive in conflict like Asmon does, and doesn't have the hours available to push through the slower parts of ARR fast enough to maintain momentum.

Would I love for Ina to take a new character through FFXIV? Yes, but she's also already played the game so she doesn't get the 'fresh player reaction' bonus Asmon does.

>> No.6473425

>>6472873
Kanae feels like he’s more popular on the outside than as a Nijisanji liver

>> No.6473599

>>6472496
Damn Hololive fucking exploded, gained 10x the average viewership in 3 years.
What happened to Nijisanji in late 2018 to cause that much of a loss of viewership?
Compared to the beginning of 2018 though it doesn't seem their viewership has grown as much though. But I figure that's mostly because Nijisanji fans tend to only stick their favorite steamer and not watch the others.

>> No.6473747
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gambling chad is getting gura tier views on his vod, holy shit. this man's incline cannot be stopped.

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6473846

>>6473747
chumbuds... i don't feel so good

>> No.6474070

>>6473747
Third highest VOD in his channel

>> No.6474221

>>6473747
Buff from a massive minecraft project. Don't pretend it's an average incline.

>> No.6474242

>>6473846
This is a result of Gura's lack of ambition combined with various other debuffs.

If she bothered to put some actual effort into minecraft for more than just a stream or two every month people would be far more interested to tuning in to her minecraft streams.

They want to fight the enderdragon yes? If they want to get it done before Gen2 is out, she could honestly plan and arrange a set of streams and/or collabs to build up some hype. Then they can spend a stream or two dying in the end searching for Elytra for everyone.

>> No.6474323

>>6474242
EN hasn't killed the enderdragon yet? Why?

>> No.6474395

>>6473747
Average VOD views of Gura's channel are 650K~700K

>> No.6474570

>>6474323
They have to tard wrangle Mori and Gura into playing the game.
They both almost set back the server by quite a bit by almost destroying Kiara's village which has been providing a lot of the equipment and material. Ina has also been doing a ton of prep work for the raid. Both Kiara and Ina emergency logged on when they were collabing to make sure they didn't accidentally destroy the village. They set up their Ferris wheel right on top of the village with no torches so it could spawn mobs that would kill all the villagers.
There's currently a set date of next week to kill the enderdragon.

>> No.6474580

curious tourist here, what type of streams tend to get the most superchats? I'm assuming it's zatsudans.

>> No.6474604

>>6473747
>>6473846
Well I mean for a 4hr stream with 29k+ CCV, that's like double the CCV for Gura's Minecraft stream so it should get that VOD views. The question is can his VOD double that gura's

>> No.6474697

>>6474323
Because they all stopped playing minecraft consistently in 2021. Ina, Ame, and maybe Kiara are the only ones who actually manage to do anything in the game. It has been like 8 months since Calli first played minecraft and she is just as bad at it as the first session. Gura gets distracted by chat too easily and never gets her tasks.

>>6474242
>If she bothered to put some actual effort into minecraft for more than just a stream or two every month people would be far more interested to tuning in to her minecraft streams.
I don't want to say it, but Gura is the textbook definition of a lazy streamer that yolos her streams. She's cute and entertaining enough that a lot of people still tune in, but at a certain point people expect slightly competent gameplay after the 10th minecraft stream. Her building ability, creativity, and knowledge of the game are among the worst in the entirety of Hololive, next to Calli who is definitely the worst. People tune into watching Kanata struggle for a blue axolotl, but Gura can't even get to a state where she can even breed one. Everything of value on the EN server is built by Ina and Ame. Maybe we'll see HoloEN MC get HoloJP MC numbers one day, but it won't happen until Gura takes the game a little bit seriously.

>> No.6474831

>>6474580
Aside from special streams like birthdays, milestones or new costumes, I think it's a tie between zatsudans and utawakus. Sometimes clearing a game or a challenge in a game can result in a lot of superchat too.

>> No.6474864

>>6474580
Special event for sure. (outfit/3D/birthday)(graduation...)
There are some exception though.

>> No.6474876

IRyS subs:
Before Debut: 275k
Lost 5k subs a few minutes after stream started. 270k
Post Debut: 291k
1hr: 301k
12hr: 360k
24hr: 391k
48hr: 432k

>> No.6474978

>>6465205
My issue with Holo EN, is that the family friendly approach became boring over time. It’s possible Cover has loosened up a bit, as they did for collabs, but it feels too late.

I said I think IRyS will end up #2 after Gura for Holo EN, but that’s only because it’s been getting boring now. I think EN needs it’s own Coco to make things interesting.

>> No.6475053

>>6474580
#1: Nijisanji 3D
#2: General Birthdays
#3: Milestone/Special announcement
There are exceptions of course like Coco.

>> No.6475068

>>6474978
#2 for streaming? How about song/music achievement?

>> No.6475139
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>>6474604
it's already above most pekora's minecraft streams. she better watch out.

>> No.6475151

>>6474831
>>6474864
ah yeah, as soon as I typed enter I knew I should have mentioned not counting things like 3D debuts or new costumes since they're either a one time thing or something that happens very infrequently.

>> No.6475174

>>6474697
Yea. Like it or not, Gura has become the 'face' of HoloEN. She never wanted this, and it probably gives her nerves like you wouldn't believe, but if she wants to grow as a streamer she needs to step up into the role she's been thrust into.

In the worst-best case scenario, we wait until EN2 gets released and get an genuine Minecraft autist in realm of Pekora to drive getting things done in the EN server.

The absolute worst case is that no one in EnGen2 is really interested in minecraft and the server languishes forever.

>> No.6475204

>>6475068
Second after Gura for Holo EN, when considering live views, VOD views, member numbers, SC numbers, sub numbers, all together. An overall second place.

>> No.6475213

>>6475139
What is his average/median VOD views in recent 30 streams?

>> No.6475243

>>6474978
I don't think it's that necessarily.
In a full group collab they don't have much synergy.
Ame clams up and becomes a mute, Gura makes cute noises, Kiara talks and Ina quips back. Mori depending on the game either becomes over-focused or screams a lot.
I think people were pretty disappointed that they didn't collab with ID/JP enough.
Kiara seems to jive with JP a lot more than her genmates.
Ame is a hit or miss and it's plainly obvious how much she holds herself back when playing Apex with the JP girls.
Mori goes full naruhodo.
Ina does well but she's just overworked.
Gura pretty much never collabs.
>>6475174
It was pretty obvious when Kiara worked on the JP server for Usaken that she was sad that the EN server was dead as hell. She was amazed to play on the server with someone else in it.

>> No.6475296

>>6475213
Shall I count special occassions or pick a month where he didn't have 3D hype? Not sure how these averages work in this thread as that will most definitely be skewed

>> No.6475306

>>6473599
Before this I'd have said that Nijisanji grew its viewership by adding new livers. They offer enough variety that new livers tend to attract a new audience. On the flipside, it's just as likely that new audience don't really bother to check out other niji livers.

But from that chart it just looks more like their male streamers grew massively while the girls remained stagnant.

>> No.6475352

>>6475174
>The absolute worst case is that no one in EnGen2 is really interested in minecraft
No, a worst case for Holo EN gen2, is not getting another Gura-type of stardom. Like if everyone was just viewed as being okay. They need another superstar.

>> No.6475404

>>6475213
look at it yourself
https://vnuma.net/en/streamers/recent/40c34d17f8404e5b862066ec750debf4/

>> No.6475436

>>6475174
TFW the face of your company is a rhombus.

>> No.6475467

>>6475352
Oh, from a growth perspective getting another break-out talent that attracts people would be great, but I meant from a 'EN Minecraft server' perspective.

In the long-term, connecting it to the JP server would probably be the best for everyone (JP and EN) so that it's far easier for everyone to collab together. That'd also require them to upgrade the JP server though.

>> No.6475564

>>6475467
The server was working fine even with 30+ people on it after the staff did something behind the scenes halfway through the summer festival. Having that many people on at the same time in the first place is exceedingly rare anyway.

>> No.6475572

>>6475296
Median live viewer/VOD won't be affected by extreme number (but still affected by event hype/buff)

>> No.6475593

>>6475213
The recent minecraft, 3D, and pachinko streams have buffed his numbers quite a bit. Normally, Ib gets ~7k for FPS streams with the occasion 10k from a collab with other Nijimales. He's in the Fuwa-tier in Niji imo.

>> No.6475655
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>>6474242
>This is a result of Gura's lack of ambition
She’s so powerful without even trying. Pic related.

>> No.6475786

>>6475213
>>6475593
he's looking up to be potentially kuzuha tier or even more popular imo. joined the company relatively recently. plenty of room to incline a lot and his crazy mc numbers are proof of it.

>> No.6475804

>>6475139
I give him 24hrs for that VOD to reach 600k views or above. If not that means his VOD views mostly come from his CCV + length of the stream.

>> No.6475887

>>6475786
no

>> No.6475927

>>6475786
>>6475804
none of you even know why his numbers are that big for that stream, he is undertaking a gigantic castle with chii-chan, he's doing all the building, she's getting materials, it isn't like he's gained new viewers to nijisanji or is doing something groundbreaking. just people excited to see a project who are already familiar with him. anyone who starts large projects on the jp server gets a buff of numbers from general nijifans stopping by, now stay away from him

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>>6473747
>29k peak views
>285k views at the end of stream
>220k+ increase vod views
>$4000+
not bad

>> No.6476013

>>6475887
do you realize kuzuha was a nobody until last year? ibrahim joined in early 2020, kuzuha only started getting popular around mid 2020.

>> No.6476073

>>6476013
There is literally a chart posted ITT that disproves this.

>> No.6476096

>>6475786
>he's looking up to be potentially kuzuha tier or even more popular imo.
lol maybe if he keeps one up-ing himself and constantly building the next "biggest structure ever on the Nijisanji server".

Kuzuha has been a solid 20k+ Apex streamer for almost a year now, with 30k+ potential quite easily due to his connections with Apex ecelebs. Ib just got his first 2 20k+ minecraft streams months. At least wait till the end of the month before deciding if Ib's minecraft buff is permanent. Gura was once getting 60k playing minecraft despite awful gameplay if you can believe it.

>> No.6476128

>>6475927
based
>>6476013
cringe
>>6476096
based

>> No.6476275

>>6475927
Indeed, event hype can be a huge effect..
Like Usada/Akukin kensetsu relay, everyone got high live viewers. If you didn't watch their activities, you might think everyone MC streams can be 30K+

>> No.6476485

>>6455304
What's wrong with Watame? I'm a watamelonmate and your post is hurting me.

>> No.6477421

Are they stress testing the newbie? Gura isn't stopping her stream, Ame didn't stop her stream. I know they are checking which dead hours timeslot she most fit in but Irys' first few streams looks like testbed for future EN gens.

>> No.6477588

>>6454808
There's already stories on nijisanji minecraft anon, you just need to watch it...

>> No.6477901

>>6477588
Nijisanji JP minecraft has so many, and a lot of it is translated too. It's where Ebimaru was born, Nijisanjiland, saving private Kuzuha, the Kaida mass-bullying incident, the festivals and massive fireworks shows, bunch of groups plundering nether cities, etc

>> No.6477990

>>6476013
It’s true he started exploding in popularity around that time but I don’t know by which standard you’re claiming he was a nobody before then

>> No.6478263

Will Gura dip below 10k while IRyS is streaming.

>> No.6478300

>>6454808
So confident in implying they have no stories when you don't even watch them.
Are you proud to be so ignorant?

>> No.6478374

>>6478263
Maybe, it's getting late for EST time so more peeps gonna dip.

>> No.6478676

>>6475068
Ofc she'll be no.1 eventually. She was hired for singing! Expect countless OG MVs and cover MVs when she got her 3D in like 3-6month

>> No.6478717

>>6478263
She is reading SC now, below 10K is expectable

>> No.6479089

>>6477421
You are thinking too much anon

>> No.6479093

>>6474570
>a set date of next week

That's uh, not a set date.

>> No.6480058

>>6478263
I don't think she dipped below 10k
At least I didn't see the dip

>> No.6480125

Irys is still 20k in the same timeslot like yesterday. This time around there are a bunch of JPs in chat. Noone but her is streaming for both jp and EN. Good job for her

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>> No.6480694
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I wonder if she can maintain this long term?

>> No.6480786

>>6480058
She slipped under 10k for just a moment, but was above 10k before she ended the stream.

>> No.6480859

>>6480694
I think she can if she streams a little early. This can be her timeslot.

>> No.6481116

>>6480694
Wait a minute, her One Hand clapping stream peaks at 29k+ iirc. Is Vnuma broken? The same with Gura's stream as well (peak at 17k+)>>6454533

>> No.6481537

>>6481116
Trending is based on each hour.
Maybe 29K+ was over 24 hr

>> No.6481759

>>6472496
Thanks for this, this data looks interesting. Although wtf, Sora with 6k in 2018? When I got into hololive she never had those numbers and that was in 2019/2020

>> No.6482086

>>6481759
old guard + one of her early live streams.
https://vnuma.net/en/streamers/monthly/?sid=9078f79c492d4199a09983179e9e7936&ym=201806
because holo new gens do better than old gens in Hololive. the idol way

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Nijisanji top 5 male streamers (peak view and avg)

>> No.6482227

>>6482167
Nice and easy to digest info, good work anon
To the anon who said Kuzuha was irrelevant until 2020 I wonder where he is.

>> No.6482297

>>6482167
the random gwelu incline recently is making me laugh more than it should
fucking apex legends

>> No.6482339

>>6482227
wasn't Kuzuha an established streamer before he joined Niji?

>> No.6482354

>>6482167
kek just realized I put Nakao Azuma there on august 2018. should be Toya, Gilzaren, Yashiro, Chaika, Kanae

>> No.6482402

>>6482339
Yeah, an indie, don't know what his numbers were like though.

>> No.6482424

>>6482167
Lol Azuma isn’t a boy

>> No.6482463

>>6482339
he was an indie chuuba for like barely half a year

>> No.6482477

>>6474580
Basically everything rushia do will get a lot of super chat.

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6482487

>>6482402
Kuzuha median views
2018
>6 880
>7 697
>8 1351
>9 1343
>10 2376
>11 3916
>12 3300

>> No.6482519

>>6482487
3-4k views for an indie is a lot WTF

>> No.6482544

>>6482487
his old art was ok but the rig makes me want to overdose on OTC meds

>> No.6482577

>>6482519
by august 2018 he was streaming for nijisanji

>> No.6482652

>>6482519
He joined 2434 august 30th hence that incline

>> No.6482661

>>6479093
a set week, then.

>> No.6482740

>>6477901
my favorite was Maimoto getting bullied by nijisanji gyarus

>> No.6482809

>>6455764
stop saying bullshit you have no idea about faggot. She is literally the single most hyped EN in both Japanese and overseas market

>> No.6482844

>>6481116
Considered as a different day for streaming. Gura and Callie started streaming at about 11PM JST. They likely peaked 17k+ during the first 2 hours.

14k+ is likely the peak for the stream when the clock hit 1AM JST, which can be considered as a different day.

>> No.6482872

>>6469282
>>6469549
>>6472661
Losing coco here hurt them. If not anything else coco can organize some big collab between the jp/en/id. She is perfect to set it up, Kiara is not there yet plus with coco, it can get pretty vulgar which is interesting sometime. Another thing is her asacoco could set up a bunch of bs lore about the en girls and hype people up into watching them, hell her meme review while is cringe was also helpful.

>> No.6482915

>>6461100
Thats faster growth than Gura

>> No.6482922

>>6477901
https://youtu.be/b8e0VZRVS3U this one is a legend

there's also lots of special collabs like werewolf rpg, 腕試し, 逃走中 that weren't translated

>> No.6483442

>>6475174
>>6474697
EN1 doesn't much storyline left to go with since they are already so close to one another that they have to make an alter ego to create a brand new storyline (TTRPG).
There will be no EN minecraft anime until the branch grows at least twice of the current size.

>> No.6483522

>>6482872
>coco can organize some big collab between the jp/en/id
After the first few months coco very much kept to herself or her small groups in hololive. There were exceptions to this sure but i don't see her organizing such elaborate collabs. She said herself she was resentful of other's success, it was a reason she gave for quitting, she doesn't seem like much of a team player.
En management don't really want to collabs with jp anyway.

>> No.6484320

>>6483522
>She said herself she was resentful of other's success
No, she didn't.

>> No.6484472

>>6483522
stop saying fucking bullshit you have no idea over you fucking retarded nigger ESL.

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>>6484320
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bh0hj7Lh0nc

>> No.6484607

>>6484509
>comparing others
>being resentful
Learn english you ESL nigger.

>> No.6484645

>>6484509
How is that resentful, you retarded clipnigger?

>> No.6484740

>>6480521
>>6480694
22k and then 21k Vnumafags why is it giving different ccv for the one hand clapping stream?

>> No.6484859

>>6484509
LOL learn english, you retarded shit.

>> No.6486950
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She just doesn't stop

>> No.6487010

>>6486950
What's the cap? 5M?

>> No.6487644

Ollie: 7 months, 700k subs. Very well done

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>>6484320
>>6484472
>>6484645
>>6484859

>> No.6488145

>>6464772
Would you like to organize your graphs into a note or website? These graphs are very interesting to analyze

>> No.6488305

>>6488145
>Would you like to organize your graphs into a note or website?
Anon, they **are** in a website. Better yet, they are in a website with no barrier to post and embedded in the general comment about the subject matter, frozen in time along with everything else about the theme.

>> No.6488448

>>6484509
>En management don't really want to collabs with jp anyway.
We just had one this fucking week. How many more JP/EN collabs do we need before you retards stop spouting this shit.

>> No.6488621

>>6488448
I for one want to see a “story arc” that involve the jp and en girls. I think asacoco is a perfect show to set up those type of thing. It goes perfectly with Subaru police series. Coco can showcase ame being wanted by Subaru on her asacoco and in return ame went on asacoco to explain herself then turn it on Subaru with her detective skill and expose how Subaru spread rumor about okayu fingering herself then a back and forth between them with coco being the new reporter who flame both side and more entertaining with her bs new reporting and commercial. The number for that arc would be amazing, too bad it won’t happen. Fuck the chinks.

>> No.6488702

>>6488621
Good job satirizing the retardation of the lore seeking schizos. 10/10, would attend to your stage play

>> No.6488774

>>6475174
another worst case scenario is EN2 joins the JP server instead of the EN server

>> No.6488809

>>6488448
Who was it? Kiara doesn't count btw

>> No.6488818

>>6488809
Ina

>> No.6488829

>>6488818
Who?

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Gotta give it to Moona and Ollie: strong as fuck growth even with the ID handicap.
Also: based on current trend Kanata may catch up with Watame before 1M

>> No.6489200

>>6454651
Ibrahim numberfags should be happy that Chihiro is getting back into MC due to CR Mondo and asked Ibrahim to build her shit.
>>6455411
Others also played it like VSPO. People always whine about wanting new shit but for Pekora, those always get lower than MC, and for Kuzuha, those always get lower than APEX. Only times they don't is if its a collab or something special.

>> No.6489256

>>6489130
Ollie's loud and energetic as fuck. Not surprised she's doing well, tho it helps that Hololive has an EOP fanbase and PekoMoona happened before ID2 debuted. Moona got giga boosted by PekoMoona holyshit. Good on her for maintaining some momentum. Her singing and MC shenanigans are nice. Still remember some Moonafags in the /jp/ thread getting mad during the first PekoMoona meeting because Moona had more viewers than usual and she was just autistically arranging coloured wool in a chest instead of singing or something.

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6489264

>>6489130
Also
>That IRyS growth
Good thing Gura killed subs numberfaggotry for good because other girls would get self conscious if subs milestones still meant anything for Holos

>> No.6489723

>>6488305
>frozen in time along with everything else about the theme.
Yeah see about that...

>> No.6489740

>>6489256
>during the first PekoMoona meeting because Moona had more viewers than usual and she was just autistically arranging coloured wool in a chest instead of singing or something.
One of the capital moments for Moona
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vfhQjFm_1F8

That OCD clip was one of the breakthrough moments for Moona

>> No.6489764

>>6489740
oh my god my autistic moon what the fuck

>> No.6489852

>>6489764
HAHAHAHA, she's right that "it cannot be helped".
>Moona Got Triggered By A Stray Plant Planted By Her Senpai Flare
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yyILiIg5hcY

>> No.6490003

>>6489723
Archive reps anon ...

>> No.6490126

>>6488448
It's a common cope for chumbuds that management is prohibiting the JP girls and Gura to collab. Meanwhile everyone else in EN freely collabs with them, even Ame who knows less Japanese than your average weeb.

>> No.6490471

>>6475139
holy shit you are comparing the vod views from a 3hrs vs an 8hrs stream, you are literally retarded

>> No.6490712

Is holostats still busted

>> No.6490942

36k for Kanatan right now.
Her bad luck is really helping her incline.

>> No.6491006

>>6490942
kanatan really is a blessed one

>> No.6491012

>>6490942
She always gets max numbers during such events, the same thing happened during ehr jump king endurance and sans fight

>> No.6491028

>>6490942
The real blue uupa is the numbers she made along the way

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>>6490942

>> No.6491089

>>6490942
The real question is how many viewers will she be able to keep once she captures the blue oopa loopa? Or is it going to be Undertale all over again?

>> No.6491146

>>6491089
It's not like she doesn't know that the little shit actually being born is going to crash her show, also she's over 40k now

>> No.6491318

>>6489130
I wonder if instead of Moons, Peko stumbled upon Iofi - would it be the same? Could be Hey Lofi now, she can speak jp as well...

Or broken english was an important comedic ingredient?

>> No.6491520

>>6491012
This is already way above what she got during the sans fight, though that's partly due to holo incline in general. Also, I don't remember jump king pulling particularly big numbers. Though you're right that her numbers are probably going back to her average once this is done.

>> No.6491649

>>6489256
Tbf according to graphchad PekoMoona arc boost Pekora the most, even the whole holoJP who was present during that period.

>> No.6491685

>>6489264
Hope incarnate indeed

>> No.6492114

47k right now. Kanata did it.

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>>6492114
Already drowning in superchat. Sasuga Kanata for always turning mundane events into great feats of failure and overcoming her own obstacles.

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>>6492344
Excellent timing too, right at the top of the hour

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