/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

>>64529184
>The Twitchfag got banned from Twitch
I see that as a small win desu

You don't get banned on youtube

>>64529184
https://vwitter.com/StreamerBans/status/1735152495779786819

Yeah anon. It's a huge nothingburger. The guy got banned and matsuri stopped her latest stream and deleted the vod when the news dropped and his fans started showing up in her chat.

>>64529632
Cover would private it if they gave even a single shit.

>>64529781
The vod is literally there, in the OP, go click it. Your pic is something else.

>>64529899
Learn to read retard. I said "latest stream".

>>64529962
Okay. Since it's such a big deal and she's stopping streams and deleting vods left and right, why hasn't she deleted the actual vod of it happening? And why hasn't anyone from Hololive stepped in and made her do it? It's almost as though nooooooooooooooooooooooobody gives a shit.

>>64529962
>Learn to read retard. I said "latest stream".
Retard failed reading comprehension when he said the VOD FOR THAT STREAM ARE STILL THERE.

>cucks still in denial
this is why you shouldn't watch holojp

>>64530287
Anyone still watching fatsuri only has themselves to blame desu

>>64530119
What he means is that she deleted completely different vods from today, he just worded it confusingly. This is how he copes.
Nobody even noticed the yab btw, her VCR vods from last weekend have >2x the views of the """yab""" vod, this is normal Festival stuff.

If it was any other holo than Matsuri then I'd understand if some tried to make this bigger than it is...but it's Matsuri. This is exactly the kind of degenerate shit one would expect a degenerate like her would do when she'd get the chance, and she did just that. It's not shocking or surprising to anyone who isn't a newfag.

>>64530115
>>64530119
>>64530501
You Matsuri white knights really are retarded. I obviously know it's two different streams. I clearly stated "her latest stream".
Her ending a stream 50 minutes in and deleting the vod is clear evidence this isn't a nothingburger.
And as to why she didn't delete the vod of the incident? What's the point. Everyone has it downloaded and there's multiple viewpoints of it including laplus' viewpoint. It would just cause a Streisand effect.

>>64531237
Then why did she delete the 50 minute one Sherlock? And why are holos still streaming VCR?

>>64531237
And was Matsuri ever part of any unicorn brigade? She infamously always plays with males and people outside hololive. Can't ruin what was never there.

>>64531237
Keep coping. Whenever Hololive has a problem with something a holomen does, they take the vod down. Only dramafags care which is why is has barely 20k more views than the vod from the day before, whereas her first VCR streams have 100k+ more. There are barely 20k of you dramafags compared to a 100k casuals who were hyped for Festival VCR.

>>64530119
>VOD FOR THAT STREAM ARE STILL THERE
>ARE
ESLchama...

>>64531237
>My narratives doesn't hold up and I can't explain why so you guys must be Matsuri's white knights
This is gold XD

>>64529184
Cover condones this behavior if it helps bring in the Twitch fleshie audience they so desperately want.

>>64531598
They tried and failed a million times to bring in this cancerous audience but these people don't stick around. Not even lap managed to capture the twitch audience, streaming on twitch

>>64531794
That won't stop them from trying

>>64529184
and why do you people suddenly care about matsuri lmao
nobody likes her

>>64531933
Yeah I know, really don't understand who's the retard that keeps pushing for this and why he hasn't been fired yet

>>64532048
Because there is a much larger audience outside the holobox and they want a piece. It will literally never stop because this is an international corporation worth billions, not a mom 'n pop vtuber corner store.

>>64531373
It's differrant this time

>>64531598
https://twitter.com/_mittiii/status/1735373422421492169
>this is who holos are associating with to "expand" the audience
Fire whoever came up with HLZNTL and thinks the audience these kinds of people MIGHT bring in are remotely compatible with an idol company.

>>64532314
>differrant

>>64532314
ESL-kun, you need to learn proper english before posting here, okay?

I hate all of you trying to push your agendas and propaganda while the matsurisu just want their oshi back.

>>64532762
back from what? she's always been like this

>>64532762
Filipinos are the literal scum of the earth

>>64532762
So she can do what? Chikan the other girls?

The vod stays but her/mods/manechan actively deletes negative comment on hourly basis while keep the 'positive' one

>>64533257
The people that leave anti comments on day-old JP youtube vods are usually junshitters or even worse. Go leave a comment right now calling Jun a homosexual and you'll get half a dozen angry responses.

>>64529184
you are cancer

>>64532762
>matsurisu just want their oshi back.
she's always been like this, nice fucking larp fag

>>64532421
>>64532550
It's fine when Pekora does it, but I can't do it as a joke?

>>64531237
Unikeks getting clowned on as usual

>>64532794
Matsuri self suspension to match the guy's twitch ban.

>>64531058
This whole board is filled with braindead newfags.

>>64532853
Why you hatin' yourself nigger

>>64531058
When was the last time she did something like this?

>>64531058
The most civil and intelligent comment I've read about this issue. It must give antis the shits that the issue isn't blowing up as large as they want it but her community has gone through this before. This yab is low key compared to the other stuff she has talked about.

>>64529184
I don't watch Matsuri much and have been busy watching Towa more in VCR, the hell happened now?

>>64536171
>the hell happened now?
https://files.catbox.moe/zc0r18.mp4

>>64535287
Jesus fucking christ there's a reason why 4chan behaves toxic and it's to filter lazy leddit twit fuckers who like to shit post but put in no reps. If you want to anti Matsuri it's not that hard with plenty of Eng translations but your demented brains are so stunted by 10 second attention spans you don't have the capacity to create bad content like half decent shit posting.
No wonder you put content creators on a pedestal you fucks are so boring and cry about the stupidest yabs I honestly wonder if you all posses the ability of rumination.

>>64536334
Kek, the fuck did they expect would happen, it's fucking GTA and Matsuri of all people, I wouldn't be surprised if others were doing the same shit off stream.

The fact that she is still deleting ANY negative comments that bring up the incident on the vod is telling enough

>>64537561
why keep the vod then

>>64529184
>matsuri

so?

>>64537732
Because its either delete the vod to accept what she did was crossing the line, or keep it up and delete all comments that aren't from yescucks

>>64533862
*jork

>>64538069
didn't she already accept that she crossed the line

>>64538069
Cry about it. Antis and dramashitters get the boot. :)

>>64538692
Who's going to be left to watch matsuri then?

>>64538777
Me

>>64538777
The literal cucks that jerk off to their oshi fucking other men.

>>64539231
I know you are just here to be mad about it, but I can say for myself
I watch Matsuri because I like her personality and I don't care about pretend girlfriends. I'm sure there are also a lot of cucks that enjoy her, but there is also people who simply enjoy funny moments on livestreams.

>>64539175
>>64539231
I made these posts

>>64539534
Okay lyger

>>64539534
what's her personality

>>64539812
A bratty retard.

cuck thread

>>64529184
The VOD stays because Cover wants this kind of audience. HLZNTL failed and this is the path they're taking. If they just ignore the backlash they hope it will fade away. Cover stays untouchable on the server, but who is going to do this kind of shit with Matsuri or anyother holomem now? No other guy is risking his channel over that. It's just not worth it. They can find girls from corps more friendly to it.

>>64539965
good

>>64532419
>Fire whoever came up with HLZNTL
Another company named Vaultroom, good luck fighting them though cause they're at the point where they have actually contributed in the growth of several VTubers, Holos included.
And them leaving the scene will only end up making Hololive looking like an exclusive piece of work who loves to burn bridges just because their unicorns are acting like zhangs.

>>64540269
This is a good take. The warning stands that the guys will suffer all repercussions when teasing Hololive girls if they think they can take it up a notch.

>>64529184
Roberu's VOD where he saw the AV is privated, though, strangely.

>>64540818
>Be Matsuri, did the AV
>Kenja time moment, realized what she did, cringed to death and wants to delete that VOD so badly
>Management : "No no no, that stays up! You wanted it, you did it, others will pay the price. Enjoy!"
Actually worst kind of punishment

>>64541204
funny if true ngl

They just deleted a bunch of the negative comments and called it a day lol. JP branch is headed for a grim future under these pro-cuck managers.

>>64541461
UNICORNCOPE

>>64531058
>It's not shocking or surprising to anyone who isn't a newfag
Well the thing is this board has been infested with newfags, and not just normal newfags, these guys don't even know Japanese even though they're 'fans' of vtubers.

>>64541729
Mikeneko type audience

>>64541204
Kek

hololive isn't cohesive enough to be a thing in itself, they're not handling themselves that way at least

>>64536334
That's it? This the Final Yab that will destroy idol culture you faggots have been moaning about? Using emotes in a way that looks dirty for laughs, the same thing every twelve year does the first time they play a game that has emotes?

>>64529184
Remember when hololive was banned from VCR because of this? BVTM, your boys took a hell of a beating

I can get holo antis trying to drum up the drama to make it a big thing, but I don't get the people downplaying it to make it seem like it isn't anything worth talking about

>>64543732
they hate idol culture and are for normalizing stuff like this

>>64543732
the holo antis are the ones celebrating this and pushing for more stuff like this

why are people surprised coming from matsuri?

>>64543732
>downplaying it to make it seem like it isn't anything worth talking about
But its true, its nothing. Matsuri's audience have been largely her fans who are fine with her antics for ages already, so any "fans" making noise about it are 100% antis falseflagging.
And its fucking Matsuri. Back in the day she DEFINED the limits of what a Holomem can do, to the point that its also referred to by Holomem as the Matsuri Line. She's known for such shit.

>>64532419
Wtf, why is someone like this allowed to be on a server with a bunch of female vtubers?

>SHE'S DELETING THE COMMENTS
Yup lots of dumbass newfags here, its likely just Lyger doing this on his own to "guard" her. While he's pretty good when shit's going down like during the chink saga or when Matsuri is getting drama, he's also the type to ban people who try to livetl in her chat because he doesn't see as being "good enough" to do it.

>>64546926
Why not delete the VOD if he wants to protect her virginity?

>>64547243
adrev
that particular vod brings good views

>>64547323
degrading herself for chump change really does sound like a matsuri thing

>>64547243
We are talking about lyger the cuck here.

>>64547375
Why are you outing yourself as a tourist?

>>64547243
>>64547323
last i checked mods can't delete videos so what even is this retarded combo of posts?

>>64547443
how does making the connection between her current behavior and her usual behavior make me a newfag, what other reason is there for keeping the vod

being a anti used to mean something

>>64547569
Do your reps.

>>64529184
Great, hope more holo chuubas will catch this trend! Thank you, Matsurii~

>>64547643
why should I waste my time on an actual whore lmao

>>64545270
It's this stance of "boys will be boys" that I don't think I will ever get. When the situation looks bad from the outside looking in you can't expect me to think that every single one of her fans is okay with this and doesn't at all think that she deserves some form of reprimandation. It's like downplaying a college jock's sexual assault case so he can play in an important match next week.

>>64545151
People don't give a shit about Matsuri, but about Hololive and Matsuri shouldn't be in Hololive because unfortunately idol culture is a thing.

>>64547881
because sometimes, the thing is in fact, actually at that low of a level and it's insane to try and raise the level it's at

>>64529184
I've jerked off to this clip three times

This board is beyond funny
Keep failing to predict a yab, /vt/, maybe go watch streams next time

>>64548452
>failing

>>64548030
That's your viewpoint I guess. It is worth noting I suppose that Aogiri, another mostly female vtuber group, was rejected from sponsorships due to one of their girls being associated with lewd voice works (hand job tier stuff) way back when. They've gotten past that hurdle since then, but it should be an indication of how other people in their industry would react when Matsuri is identified as the girl who - despite the branding of the corp she is in - did sex roleplay with a guy who literally goes to a hooker the day after.

>>64548568
Calling that "sex roleplay" is an exaggeration.

>>64549254
True but tell that Miti who got banned for it. Twitch is rather strict with that stuff.

>>64531478
This post didn't age well.

>>64532419
This can't be good for Hololive's reputation

>>64549446
The stream now has over 200k views and the comments are full of his fans using it like a chatroom btw.

>>64549254
You wanna try humping your cousin and see what her dad thinks of it?
>inb4 he says he has better technique

>>64549956
wanna try joining a gang with your cousin and see what her dad thinks of that?
it's gta.

>>64536392
what

>>64549988
I can assure you showing your cousin's dad a video of you and her bumping uglies in a game would still make him freak out, provided you're not already inbreds

>>64550231
note that you needed to raise the severity from humping to actual sex to make your point. actual sex is also not what happened even in the game.

>>64550340
So you are telling me you know of parents who are okay with watching their daughter getting dry humped by some dude?

>>64550561
ingame,?

>>64550561
are you Matsuri's dad

>>64549988
>>64550340
Nta but why are you niggers trying to claim it wasn't sexual? The dude and her dont even deny that. Twitch agrees. Even his faggot fans joke about it like that. Is it just some weird false flag holo anti attempt?

Her gang in the game is disbanded. I'm sure that means something.
I hope they're having a meeting about what to do with her. She's more of a dangerous sexpest than I gave her credit for

>>64550643
It was a sex joke, but calling it "sex roleplay" is stupid because that term has connotations that imply something extremely different
Like emotions

>>64550702
>like emotions
Lmaooooooooo
Okay man if that's the hill you wanna die on. Thanks for the conversation

>>64529184
Hory sheeet
What happened to Hororaibu?

>>64550702
Now you sound like a woman.

>>64550702
What

>>64550698
the gang gone coz matsuri MIA...
she don't answer their discord message...
maybe because they afraid RUSHIA 2.0...
or matsuri feel bad coz mittiii get ban coz animal video they make...

>>64551079
this is worse than rushia though, that was just a discord message, matsuri LITERALLY had SEX ON STREAM

Are you /vt/rannies still stuck on this? Everyone's already chosen to move on

>>64551060
>>64551063
>>64550821
"Lust" is an emotion
To spell it out for you idiots, "sex roleplay" implies something other than "haha funny models rub together look like sex haha"

>>64551187
>noooooooooo stop talking about the whore it's literally nothing nobody cares except you stop stop stop

Nijiniggers really don‘t have anything better to do eh?
Go watch your 2view cocksleeves instead of remaking the same boring bait thread every couple hours

>>64551212
If you think so.

>>64548568
>a guy who literally goes to a hooker the day after.
What

>>64551297
>>64551237

>>64550702
>emotions
Oh he's serious.

>>64551111
>SEX ON STREAM
its you problem not me, coz i am see that video as gravure video...
and if you watch matsuri, you already know what she will doing inside GTA5...
gang/criminal/make that gravure type video to get money in the game...

>this is worse than rushia though
that rushia give company information to outside holo, what the fuck are you talking about worse than rushia...
if you don't like see your oshi doing unpure shit, make sure your oshi never play game R18 game...

>>64548568
>sex roleplay
Holy shit you people really need to get out more

>>64551357
Where the fuck did you come from flip

>>64529184
Thank you festival for doing this on stream. Now I know that every holo that plays VCR is a whore offstream so I can unsub immediately. Really you're doing god's work as always Matuli.

>>64551422
knowing what "sex roleplay" actually entails isn't even getting out
it's like
basic internet literacy

>matsuri has always had virtual sex with men, newfags
wait really?

>>64551422
>>64551491
Do you really believe the semantics behind what constitutes as sex roleplay matters to corporate suits looking at this whole shindig?

>>64551630
it's more about the principle of trying to portray it as one general thing when sane people view it as a different, far more mundane thing

>>64551706
And again, would knowing that difference matter to the suits?

>matsuri has always been shit so it‘s okay

>>64551808
Depends on which suits you're talking about
COVER suits? Absolutely, if they actually felt the need to look into what happened and decide if something needed to be done
Sponsor suits? Unless she ends up doing stuff like softcore pornography I doubt they'll give enough of a shit to look into any of it

>>64551998
So what you're saying is it isn't "literally nothing"?

>>64552139
I'm saying that it's the kind of thing that someone would hear about and think "I should see what actually happened to make sure it wasn't anything horrible" and then go see it and hopefully, if they were sane, say "oh ok it's just them being dumb and messing around with video game avatars and laughing about it"

>>64532419
>thinks the audience these kinds of people MIGHT bring in are remotely compatible with an idol company.
I joined via watching clips in 2020 and I'm not anymore 'compatible' with an idol company and yet I'm still here motherfucker.

>>64552245
Fair, congrats for not losing your shit.

>>64529184
>hololive humor

>>64538777
Every JP Holomember has at least core base of 1500-2500 fans. No matter how much you hate them and want them out of Hololive, they will always have those fans stand by their side and in vtubing that amount is still enough to keep them in the top 1%.
Get filtered and seeth more

>>64540715
>HLZNTL
>Another company named Vaultroom
Are you retarded? HLZNTL is all cover
https://note.cover-corp.com/n/n4056e1164321

>>64548568
I erp'd in goldshire in world of warcraft, can i add professional av sex roleplay to my resume anon?

>>64550561
ever heard of arranged marriages my dude?

Personally I wish Matsuri wasn't a holo, because she's too much of a whore imo. Not the good kind that acts lewd for her own fans or in ASMR either. But towards males and ecelebs she constantly collabs with.
I just consider her a negative for Hololive. But then again I also feel that way about Ollie and Laplus.

>>64552951
Slippery slope, if you wanna feel that way then close to a fifth or even a quarter of Hololive would need to be excised to appease people with your mindset who take it to the extreme.

>>64553064
pray tell, who is part of this quarter of hololive

>>64553107
Marine. Aki. Chloe. Mori. Kronii. All of ID.

>>64553064
I don't know. Sure if it were up to me we wouldn't have any VCR collabs or other such shitty collaboration content with dudes and ecelebs.
But I'm not drastic enough to where I would fire anyone over simply doing any male collab. Matsuri, Laplus and Ollie have done more than simply just collabed with a guy.

>>64553202
lmao that's not even all of them, and Marine and Chloe are clean

>>64553107
This list doesn't include just the ones who are 'whores' but also ones who have done things seen by some to be as bad or worse than being whores and have led to calls for them to be thrown out of Hololive at some point.
Roboco, Suisei
Mel, Matsuri, Aki, Haachama, Fubuki
Choco
Korone
Noel
Towa
Botan, Polka
Laplus, Lui
Ao, Ririka, Raden
Risu, Moona, Iofi
Ollie
Zeta, Kobo
Mori, Ame, Ina, Gura
Fauna, Kronii, Bae
Shiori, Nerissa

>>64553280
Why is Shiori and Nerissa there...

>>64553280
did any of the listed girls have e-sex on stream? no? ok

>>64553280
>Gura
Explain

>>64553334
Some consider continuing friendship with the ultimate traitor Kson to be worse than e-sex

>>64553358
The party

>>64553280
>Fauna

>>64553571
You hate Gura over her trying to survive an EDM rager by Mori's sister that had her hide in a closet all night?

>>64550561
and now we've swapped back down from "actual sex" to "dry humping but irl and infront of them". This is why people keep saying it's a nothingburger, because you have to be so weaselly to continue being upset about it. It's gta nigga.

>>64553358
you always add gura to lists like these. she's easy bait.

>>64553280
Not even the full list. Forgot Sora, Shion, Ayame, Pekora, Chloe, Anya, Reine maybe more idk. Literally most of the members are "a negative for Hololive". Schizos don't see a problem with that.

>>64553718
If you don't think there's something wrong with a holo having on-stream pretend sex with a male eceleb while moaning you can't be reasoned with.

>>64553280
>those holomen are as bad as matsuri

>>64553280
>>64553729
What the fuck are you two on about?
The kind of people who want matsuri to leave for being a giga whore and tainting holo MAYBE also feel that way about Laplus and Ollie but you fags are just listing random names for your strawman of a unicorn.

>>64553840
exactly. when anyone else fucks up i'll be around to talk about how they should leave. it's a form of whataboutism. matsura did this, yeah but whatabout... and then you derail the conversation.

>>64553791
Actually some of them are even worse than matsuri

>>64553840
Maybe YOU feel that way about only Laplus and Ollie but YOU don't represent ALL

>>64553947
Lmao no, not even close. Best you can say is that most of them are held in higher regard and much smaller mishaps will create bigger yabs.

>>64553771
You're right, but I'm more upset about the fact she's clearly carrying a gun and killing people. We should call the police on her.
>Happened in game
>No penetration
>Exaggerated noises for comedic effect
>Roleplay server
>While roleplaying as a virtual cheerleader
You can't even really call it pretend sex, it's more like pretend-pretend-pretend-pretend-pretend sex with the amount of layers separating it from actual sex.

>>64554140
Oh that makes it totally okay then for a holo girl to fuck a streamer guy live in front of her fans

>>64554257
>fuck a streamer guy
There you go being weaselly again. This didn't happen. Stick to one characterization of events and try not to change it when you run out of arguments for it.

>>64554327
It did happen, you just excuse it with "oh well they were only RPing and Matsuri happened to RP a prostitute so it's actually okay and fans should like it".
You are mentally ill.

My first thought is that it's not a big deal but thinking about someone doing that to Fuwawa, Mococo, Bijou, IRyS or Fauna makes me mad.

>>64554470
Nigga you're the one that can't tell the difference between reality and fiction when there's 5 layers of separation between what she did and real sex. You can't even stick to one version of events, that's mental illness right there.

>>64554547
They are vtubers. None of the sex they could ever have on stream would count as "'real" to a retard like you.
What Matsuri did was as close as it gets to that without Youtube outright banning her. It's still just as insulting to her fans.

If a vtuber says "I want to suck your dick, seriously" to a male streamer she plays with then that's just as much of a betrayal as her somehow streaming herself "actually" sucking the dick.

No matter how you try to frame the ERP
>oh it wasn't really erotic it was just models with an awkward animation
>oh it wasn't really SEX guys it's just a game lmao
>oh it wasn't as bad as real coomer ERP
The fact remains that holos (yes even matsuri) doing that kind of thing with male ecelebs is a new line and a new low. The faggot already got banned for it and decided that instead of apologising for crossing a line like matsuri did in the stream she archived he would go out and get some real (not virtual) whores and mimick the shit that got him banned.
https://twitter.com/_mittiii/status/1735373422421492169
You can interpret that tweet how you like but you don't have to be a unicorn to find the whole thing trashy and his response even moreso.

Anybody who thinks this kind of person should be in the same solar system as holos let alone "ERP"ing with them for jokes is an anti as far as I am concerned.

>>64531237
>noooo, be angery, whore whore whore
lmao
The pubescent whinging is hilarious

>>64545270
Still doesn't make any possible act she could do acceptable. This is just moving the goalpost everytime she does something more disgusting than previously

>>64554702
Also inb4 someone disingenuously links the tomari clip and says
>look it's EXACTLY the same thing newfag newfag
No it isn't and you know it isn't

>>64554702
>Anybody who thinks this kind of person should be in the same solar system as holos let alone "ERP"ing with them for jokes is an anti as far as I am concerned.

I agree. People like that should not be around holos.

>>64554695
>They are vtubers. None of the sex they could ever have on stream would count as "'real" to a retard like you.
This is genuinely hillarious to read.
>She got dryhumped in a video game while making over the top and clearly fake noises while roleplaying on a roleplay server, while already roleplaying as a virtual cheerleader
sure sounds like real sex to me.
>If a vtuber says "I want to suck your dick, seriously" to a male streamer she plays with then that's just as much of a betrayal as her somehow streaming herself "actually" sucking the dick.
Again with your weaselly examples. She didn't say anything like that or come even remotely close to it

>>64554702
>You can interpret that tweet how you like but you don't have to be a unicorn to find the whole thing trashy and his response even moreso.
trashy sure but the tweet reads like "why would I fuck some virtual bitch when I've got real bitches that are all over me?"

>>64554702
He should go work for Cover. They know how to tardwrangle whores and sex pests.

>>64554702
Keep living in your dream world where every Hololive member is some pure virgin who has never seen a penis in their lives or looked up something on fanza.

>>64554887
>trashy sure but the tweet reads like "why would I fuck some virtual bitch when I've got real bitches that are all over me?
Glad it reads the same to you as it does to me.
So do you think characterizing a holo as a "virtual whore" and showing off his real ones is remotely acceptable?

Well, I'm just curious about Matsuri's next stream. When and what.

>>64554929
>Keep living in your dream world where every Hololive member is some pure virgin
Not even close to what I said faggot, it's about standards and clearly you have none.

For anyone confused, no one likes an actual whore, not even the whores themselves. But girls predisposed to or has high potential to be a whore but resist it the best they can, men love. This mentality also applies to female vtubers.

>>64554547
As made clear with the much less spergier anon above, the semantics of what counts as real sex doesn't matter to the outside looking in. Anyone unfamiliar with the situation or uninterested in general will still have the impression of "oh this vtuber from an idol group fucked a guy on stream, damn son". And that as good of a reason that the prevalent downplaying of the event as "Matsuri will be Matsuri" is incredibly weird.

>>64554702
> doing that kind of thing with male ecelebs is a new line and a new low.
good. something new and fresh.
you are vocal minoruty, can only whine and ruin fun

I wouldn't be sad if Matsuri left. Doubt she will, but still.

>>64554934
Of course, fuck that guy, I'm not defending him but just cause he's trash doesn't make what she did real sex.

>>64555093
I never argued it did, glad we agree on him being trash at least.

>>64555088
those butts are aimed at me and not some dude playing gta.

>>64555088
>fanservice
vs
>virtual sex with a rando
be less disingenuous

>>64555093
It's just as insulting to her fans, however.

>>64555088
>Whoring it up with male ecelebs is new and fresh content
See? Obvious anti.

>>64554702
>this is the kind of personalities Cover is allowing holomen to play with and associate to

>>64555088
Really comparing apples and oranges with this one, anon.

>>64555039
>Anyone unfamiliar with the situation or uninterested in general will still have the impression of "oh this vtuber from an idol group fucked a guy on stream
They really won't, unless they also have trouble telling the difference between reality and fiction like you.

>>64555188
And now moving goalposts from "she fucked someone" to "she said she wanted to suck their dick" to "ok she didn't say any of that but it still FEELS offensive to her fans" when you're not even a fan of hers and are just shit-stirring. Her actual fans know what she's like.

>>64555088
You forgot to change the file name, falseflag-kun

>>64555188
The fans who would be offended have left long ago
Why are you trying to produce outrage on behalf of those who aren't offended?

>>64555088
>some new and fresh ntr
This is not it

>>64553280

>>64555398
>source 3
do you perhaps own more humorous images like this one

>>64555182
fanservice
vs
fanservice for pervs
>>64555200
>I'm a real fan, so you are *insert buzzword*. I say so!

>People crying about Sex in GTA

Time is a flat circle, is Jack Thompson /here/?

>>64555339
>They really won't
Do you have something to substantiate this outside of lalala I can't hear yous?

>>64555355
I'm offended as a fan of Hololive in general, unironically. Hololive is better than this and way too large and important for some girl to still act like a random twitch indie whore.
Events like this RP sex with some chucklefuck eceleb have no place in Hololive and thus Matsuri should at minimum be banned from further VCR participations if not temporarily suspended over this.

>>64555131
> aimed at me
at 3d studio staff

>>64555445
>>I'm a real fan, so you are *insert buzzword*. I say so!
Are you unironically slow? The post he was replying to literally contains a file called holo whores.

>>64555545
off stream

>>64531373
Virtual sex is definitely far over the line even for 2018 matsuri. Retards acting like this is a nothingburger too just because it is their go-to response for every yab is so dumb

>>64555339
>>64555458 (me)
Oh and to be clear I'm not claiming that people will have the impression that they actually had sex. I'm claiming that when you ask people about this the impression they will have of it will be "oh that thing where the girl had sex or something?", which of course isn't as "bad" as actual sex, but having that image imprinted onto the public about a supposed idol surely can't be counted as "nothing".

>>64555352
What? I like whores.
>le orrange reddit dragon (is memoryholed now)
You forgot to pick kosher reaction image

>>64550702
Please, have sex

>>64555582
>he doesnt know

>>64555692
it's not on stream.

>>64555458
The ability to discern reality from fiction. Their response will be "oh the girl who pretended to have sex in a video game?" not "oh the girl that FUCKED some dude LIVE" but you're the one claiming that's how they'll react so post your sources buddy.
>>64555627
>I'm not claiming people will think they actually had sex, I'm claiming that people will think "oh that girl had sex or something"
you're really not making yourself seem any less mentally ill

>227 / 13 / 86 / 2
ITT: 86 samefags passionately discussing the virtues of what is/isn't an idol will ultimately never voice their opinions about any of this outside of /vt/ despite their intense heartfelt stance on the matter.

>>64555505
Hypocritical puritan

>>64555352
>>64555580
>mindbroken over word
Holy shit. No surprise you keep seething over gta rp

>>64553280
Just put the whole hololive LMAO fcking clown

>>64555505
>Hololive is better than this and way too large and important
They are an entertainment company, you act like people will suffer and die over this bullshit. And if anyone actually does harm or off themselves over this then they are doing society a favor and winning the Darwin Award.

>>64555855
Don't forget to change the file name next time, you stupid retard

>>64555812
shh anon let the sisters have their fun. graduations, bad financial reports, more of their organs failing, complaining and cucking their fanbase. it's a tough time to be a nijisister right now.

CGDCT crowd really showing off their asses tonight huh?

>>64553359
ogey chingchong

>>64555944
it looks like the sisters just arrived actually. hello.

>>64529418
>banned from Twitch
kek bans on twitch are like a slap on the wrist and they wear their bans as a badge of honor, he'll be back in 1-3 days

>>64543494
Cuck mentality. I guess you would be fine with your gf grinding her ass against a dick, since it merely mimics sex.

>>64555944
>it's a tough time to be a nijisister right now
Kek when has it been a good time to be a Nijisister in 2023

>>64555754
>Their response will be "oh the girl who pretended to have sex in a video game?"
Ah so you agree with me that that is what their impression will be of Matsuri after this then. So how is it that you can still claim that it is "nothing"? Sure you can say "she's always been like that" to strangers on the internet, but can you convince the suits that that public image won't interfere with whatever thing they're sponsoring you for?

>laplus enters room
>sees matsuri and a dude fucking

Poor Laplus...

>>64556258
Nah that's the kind of ambient Matsuri and Lap+ wished for,

>>64556186
>twitter, reddit, youtube coments, 5ch all laughing of the "yab" as a joke
Anon I don't think there's anything that the suits have to be convinced about, but if you're still going on with your holy crusade here you go my friend best of luck to you:
https://cover-corp.com/en/report

>>64555733
cope. you guys will go crazy if there are actual sex sound behind the scenes and frozen 2d avatar. No one has had sex on screen, but you'll scream the opposite

>>64556127
Its called a menage a trois and that shit happens alot more than you think

>>64556186
Because non mentally ill people can tell the difference between pretending and real life. She's also done worse and it's not led to anything bad happening, no sponsors or advertisers dropped because of the piss jug, Coco did way worse on a regular basis (crackhead alter ego etc...) and nothing came of it. You would know this if you were a holo fan and not just someone shit stirring.

NTR live..

>>64556512
No, this is pretty much the worst thing Matsuri did.

>>64556586
K, so when is the graduation sister? 2 more weeks? or maybe 2 weeks of suspension?

>>64556630
Where did I say she's graduating?
I said this is the worst thing so far. Not that she'll be fired over it.

>>64556664
So when is the punishment sister? she is getting punished for the worst thing shes done so far right?

>>64556664
nta, that guy calling you a sister when those kind of viewers are the first to celebrate that type of behavior.

>>64556586
>>64556664
This is not the worst thing Matsuri has done by a large margin

>>64556690
She's no longer participating in this VCR event, yeah.
Hopefully further VCR events will also be NG for her, would be for the better.

>>64556746
It is though. Other times might have been more yabe in a general sense, but they didn't cuck her own fans as much.


Feel free to list any Matsuri events you think were worse though.

>>64556746
If you think so.

>>64555602
Back then she was doing ero stuff to make people give attention to hololive because hololive wasnt popular at all and she needed to manage to make it. Also in the era vtubing is a niche thing and cover wasnt nurfing anything either. It was that kind of era.

Shes now pretty much just another indie vtuber. She simply couldnt grow or failed to keep up with the modern hololive. She probably doesnt give a fuck about her or hololives reputations anymore.

>>64529418
>irl nudity and sex is fine on twitch but this gets you banned
?

>>64556512
And as stated way above, there has been cases where a vtuber who released r-15 level audio works was rejected from jobs due to being perceived as エッチ売り. In Matsuri's case it could even be potentially worse, as this thing clashes directly with the image she is supposed to have (to the general public atleast). Which is why the prevalent downplaying in every thread is weird to me. What is wrong with admitting "she fucked up"?

>>64556413
>the whole thing has blown up into multiple platforms and communities
>this is somehow still nothing
As I said at the very beginning I just find the need to downplay the whole thing as nothing to be utterly inexplicable. Doesn't seem like anyone outside of the one person to be able to articulate a good reason however, so that's the end of that effort towards understanding I guess.

> doing that kind of thing with male ecelebs is a new line and a new low.
> new line
lol
lmao even

>>64556512
>Coco did way worse on a regular basis (crackhead alter ego etc...) and nothing came of it
None of that was worse than this. The fuck are you smoking?
>You would know this if you were a holo fan and not just someone shit stirring
You would know Coco had many issues with management over that stuff if you weren't coping.

>>64556780
She's forgetting that a large part of her audience left precisely because of that behavior. Or was never attracted because of that.
But I know women can only double down instead of admitting to their mistakes

>>64557105
>pretending this was anything near as bad as improvised live simulated sex with random e-celeb

This is only a "yab" to EOPs. Japanese fans understand the culture and the context behind the interactions. It was nothing more than a funny skit. It's really no different than a regular idol appearing on a TV show.

>>64557434
This newfag is right. Real idols rp sex pretty regularly.

>>64557546
Try watching Japanese television some time, EOP-kun. This is tame in comparison to what real idols do on a regular basis.

>>64557434
no. this shit went viral. it didnt become a huge drama tho just because she was so niche now. i mean you are a shit falseflagger

>>64556962
>In Matsuri's case it could even be potentially worse
>could be potentially

>>64557142
>You would know Coco had many issues with management over that stuff if you weren't coping.
She only had issues with management after the suicide joke, after that she had to run everything past management for asacoco. She still did yab shit in shitpost reviews and coco kaine still made appearances. None of it was related to sex jokes or males, but you would know that if you had been around for it.

>>64557357
it's the same

>>64557663
Lol, that's some nice goalpost moving, specially considering Coco eventually graduated over the issues she had with management. Still doesn't make her crass humor any worse than what happened with Matsuri.

>>64557616
> this shit went viral
source?

>>64558067
http://jin115.com/archives/52386481.html
https://m32006400n.xsrv.jp/game-introduction/why-is-natsuiro-matsuri-where-michi-was-banned-from-vcrgta-also-under-fire/
https://www.menuguildsystem.com/natuiromaturi-gta/

>>64557105
Hot

Been a while since I've seen this volume of falseflaggers (those outraged with known uberwhore) taking the piss out of falseflaggers (those defending uberwhore because it's funny). Actually might be the only real person who's posted in this thread so far.

>>64558187
Bro those kind of sites milk every scrap of drama they can find for clicks. It's like posting a Sankaku article to claim something is "going viral", except they're just Sankaku-level quality while having 1/100th of the audience.

>>64560438
The only thing i wish is for is this causing a domino effect to end the sex pest e-celeb GTA server collabs entirely.

>>64560459 (me)
Oh, and the last one literally says it's a nothingburger. That's the only matome that's actually vtuber-focused (the other ones are complaining about holobuta and vbuta and blaming them for getting the dude banned) so it looks like the only people that gave a shit were on the eceleb fleshie side.

>>64557434
>saying this when JPweb exploded over it

>>64557434
>t.EOP

>>64562528
Lel. it never trended on twitter.

>>64557434
>Japanese fans understand the culture and the context behind the interactions
Based NTR-loving cultural context

>VCR GTA
More like NTR GTA

>>64536334
Just gross and in poor taste. Don’t hate her for it, but that’s not the kind of content I watch holo for

>>64550702
This is maximum cope

>>64553280
>Fauna
That girl is the most safe, seiso woman possible on stream. Get the fuck out of here with that.

I don’t want to watch the streamer I’m following get fucked on stream. I don’t think that’s too much to ask

>>64554327
You’re delusional bro

>>64554517
Yup. I wanna forgive her, but I think about how I’d feel if that happened to one of the girls I actually follow and realize I’d feel sick.

She’s a grown woman and can make grown woman decisions. Live with the consequences

>>64554517
>>64563416
This.

>>64554702
This far and away crossed the line for me. That’s just gross. 0 class and it’s brining down everyone else involved, regardless of intention

>>64555505
Couldn’t have said it better myself. She went way too far this time

>>64547881
This sounds like a mighty case of lurk moar with a hint of "I dont have a clue how (thing) is but my opinion is more important and I get to call the shots"
You know less than a clipwatcher if you genuinely buy this bullshit

>s-she crossed the line
>this is completely unacceptable for holo!!!
Then why isn't the vod down?

>>64555505
>>64563508
>Outrage mob offended over a sex joke
More proof that leftists have invaded this fucking hobby.

>>64563517
You mind explaining why properly instead of just sperging about it? Other anons have atleast offered the viewpoint of "I believe the public are able to look past the surface level drama and surmise that it's just people messing around in a game", which, regardless of my thoughts on how naive that is, is atleast an opinion.

>>64557434
-source: "I don't even speak japanese and I just made it up." There were shit tons of negative comments from JP. In fact Cover deleted over a hundred comments from the original video the next day. I saw it go from 202 comments to 85 the day after. Now it's back up to 225 again after being flooded by the beggars coming in to jerk off and celebrate. Censorship at it's finest.

Matsuri or any of these girls don't owe you anything.

>>64563707
>Still thinking this is about Faggicorns and Homobeggars
>When it's literally just mitti fans becoming antis bothering Matsuri because his lame ass sex joke got him banned on Twitch and love to white knight him.
Make a homo bait thread instead of spewing your nonsense lurkfaggot.

>LA+ still streaming VCR like usual
EOPs really make a big deal out of nothingburger lmao

>>64563814
Lol biggest cope I've read in a while.. Yep, keep dreaming of your dream cuck world where hololive fans loves this cuck shit and the only antis are some angry twitch fans. Get real beggar.. Most the negative comments that were deleted by cover happened even before the twitch sexpest got banned lol.

>>64563707
That's the manager being good at his job by preventing griefing from vocal minorities.

>>64563697
Sure, it goes like this:
You lurk , you bother watching and learning about the topic you want to have a valid opinion of, and then you form an opinion based on that information, hopefully your own, that doesnt out you as a tourist
Why? Lurk. Learn. Try typing natsuiro matsuri in youtube's search bar, find this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k1nsMRj1B_s and think "this should at least give me some insight about what I'm dealing with" and then reason "this probably is the heavily skewed POV of an struggling EOP (ill bet a kidney it is) but at least now I have a general idea how she is. Next would be, finding more stuff on your own, no more freebies from me

>>64563720
I actually disagree. Highly successful Content creators owe their fans a lot. Do we have say over her personal life? Of course not.

Should she grant us the curtesy to not litteraly grind on a random E-Celebs dick on stream? Yeah, she fucking should and should be ashamed of herself.


Actions have consequences, move on

>>64563992
>I-its cope because I said so!
Lol lmao..all the pissy twitch Zoomers spam her chat because she got their favorite twitchfaggot banned. The projection is so obvious you sure you're not the one coping?
>C-comments were deleted I've seen it!@
Prove it. Give me any line of negative comments that has your stupid culture war. Oh wait. You can't lol.

>>64564047
"vocal minorities" he claims based on nothing. Matsuri has some of the worst CCV in JP. Yep majority of hololive fans totally love this cuck shit as demonstrated by her dominating the scene, totally not getting 1/10th the viewership of Marine, Miko etc. You beggars sure have some interesting thought processes.

>>64564094
Lmaoooooo
So basically all that just to say the same "boys will be boys, it's fine" argument and blindly expecting that people will be okay with it. Alrighty then, good day.

>>64564386
100 comments got deleted, Wow., the masses definitely got silenced here.

>>64563707
> In fact Cover deleted over a hundred comments
Didnt happen.

>>64564386
>Matsuri has some of the worst CCV in JP.
Okay, and she's still routinely a 5view, makes tons of money, and gets to do whatever she wants, while you're here writing paragraphs to own le beggars.

>>64565062
whatever she wants? like play more vcr gta?

>>64563570
Cause Cover is retarded, unless you unironically think this is more a-ok than Marine and Botan talking about their fetishes and other harmless shit they took down over the years.
The whole
>VOD IS STILL UP!!!
cope just makes it worse, if anything.

>>64565062
>Matsuri
>5view
I will give you the benefit if the doubt, hand slip?

>>64566679(me)
Fuck now it’s my turn.

>>64566679
Not every stream no, but with a buff game or collab yeah. She got 11k for holosuika and 19k interviewing 2views in October.

>>64566586
> Marine and Botan talking about their fetishes and other harmless shit
>harmless shit
she loves ntr

>>64553659
anon...

>>64567508
Yes, fetishes, harmless shit. She's (or was) also a shotacon but nobody would assume she actually fucked a kid.

>>64565062
>routinely a 5 view
Wow, a tourist from the alternate dimension where she never played Apex, collabed with males, or had yabs. It must be beautiful where you come from.