/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

And here's yesterday's dailies

Bad time for a thread, numbers won't come out for a bit.
Why can turn this into /tribal/ in the mean time.

>>6440843
Flare got some good supas from having an endurance milestone karaoke but why on earth does she pull in good SC numbers in general?

Chigusa isn't that big of an earner, why is she there?

>>6440895
250k subs endurance karaoke

>>6440930
She seems to be a numberfag. If she /ourgirl/?

>>6440831
Huh Mashiro got pretty shit SCs for a niji male 3d debut. Is he unpopular or something?

>>6440831
Are Ayame fans the biggest cucks alive?

>>6440895
>why on earth does she pull in good SC numbers in general?
Flare is lovely but anemic towards all numbers except SC where a few gachikoi can make a huge difference. Niji's show this all the time when they get 2k viewers but big supas during events or even regularly. It's kinda fucked up how slow Flare's sub growth is considering that she's lower than Sora and Roboco (until yesterday) but gets way more viewers.

>>6441068
His 3D debut was only 36 mins when most people expected an hour so there wasn't as much time for people to donate a lot I guess. Regardless, he never got much SCs even on normal days, unlike fuwa, tomoe and Ib.

>>6441177
I only seen her in collabs but how on earth did she get some gachikoi? Does she lay the sugar on thick in solos streams?

>>6441316
You don't know? She's another type of GFE. The cool tomboy girlfriend who can sing and play games. She does long superchat reading too.

>>6441083
yes we also read 10 ntr doujins before going to sleep

Reflect has gotten six million views in a little over 20 days

>>6441316
Do yourself a favour and watch her solo streams. She’s great.

>>6441539
Flare's voice reminds me of Duffy. I love it.

>>6441432
I like her more for the gapmoe of the cool beauty exterior while being a sweetheart on the inside.

>>6441437
>Standard issue snark by online cuck who can't or won't answer an uncomfortable question.
Stop please, my confirmation bias can only take so much.

>>6441484
It's basically kept the pace of nearly a million views per week for two weeks now.

If it maintains this pace, it hits 10m in another month and 20m in 15 weeks. Of course it's not going to maintain this pace.

For some prespective, 【Ado】夜のピエロ hit 10m views in roughly 28 days, so Reflect is looking to track at roughly 7m in 28 daysish.

The fact that I can even put these two videos in comparison when Ado's has an MV is actually kind of nuts.

Could you imagine what kind of numbers REFLECT would have managed if by some miracle, they had been able to get the MV done for it on time?

>>6442193
Ado is also a significantly better singer, so she has that going for her numbers too.

>>6441228
Not to mention he mostly turn it off because he's often playing obscure indie games which are hard to get permissions for

>>6442360
Her music also became a “utaite standard” with each cover linking to and adding interest into the original

>>6442360
Ado is s popular JP singer, her songs definitely grow faster. Having 50% of her view growth is a big number for a vtuber

>>6442519
If she's so popular, why does she have less subs than Gura?

>>6442360
>>6442519
As numberfags, we know talent doesn't always translate into numbers. Plenty of talented people don't get numbers and vice versa. There's vocaloid songs without real singing that do better than Ado's songs. Ado is already mainstream after Useewa so anything she releases will get big numbers, much like Yonezu and Yoasobi.

>>6442360
Oh yea. Ado has done her reps bigtime, while Gura is really at the stage of "How much do I want to commit to getting better at singing?".

I'm confident with saying Gura is not the BEST singer in hololive, from a technical perspective. From what I can remember she's self-taught, and her videos pre-hololive indicate she used singing as a form of enjoyment and shitposting rather than anything of a serious career.

The fact that she very seriously contemplated about not getting pigeonholed into a specific genre when talking about her original songs(might have been an unarchived karaoke stream or something) leads me to think she's serious about her singing now.

I can't wait to see what kind of numbers her 2nd original tracks, especially if it's in full english, with an MV, and is something that can really capture her natural vocal talent (more acoustic than not)

>>6442543
This is how artist channel works.
1B views, only 10M subs.

>>6442360
I watched her Ussewa cover and was wholly impressed. I didnt know of Ado before this.

>>6442543
get the fuck out

>>6442543
Singer=/=Youtuber

>>6442543
You mean PDP is the best singer and T-series is the best music company?

>>6442610
>I watched her Ussewa cover and was wholly impressed. I didnt know of Ado before this.
It's not a cover Anon... Ado is the original artist of Ussewa which is a cultural phenomenon in Japan. Literally the most popular JP song of 2020 IIRC.

>>6442595
I've watched Ado's past videos and they weren't that amazing in numbers before until one of them blew up and she gained momentum. Her ussewa song really did it for her career, not to mention the MVs. I don't mind Gura focusing on music because she clearly could become a great singer and be an idol, but she seems to have other plans for her life and I'll respect that.

>>6442649
The state of things when people don't realize who's the original.

Also to that idiot who compared subs between two different types of channels, I hope you're just a dramabaiting faggot and not serious, because otherwise you need to go get your head checked.

>>6442649
Correction, Useewa blew up in 2021 and despite being a Oct 2020 song, it's still on the charts today.

>>6440831
Didn't that Mashiro dude just got his 3D?
Why is he so low in the rankings?

>>6442649
>>6442747
Nah, It's me accidently putting typing cover next to it. 159M is already a clear indication that she owns the song.

>>6441228
Any reason to why his 3D debut short?

>>6442839
he's on the middle to high tier niji.

>>6442839
Multiple reasons - it was short, he has a niche appeal as an occult obsessed trap, and the content of the 3d stream was a kino horror movie which isn't exactly ideal for getting SCs. Playboard doesn't have live analytics for the stream, so I can't give you the data, but from watching it live most of the donos were during his song after the film and there was only song so not a lot of donos.

>>6442881
It was one of the most technically challenging ones, they basically shot a horror short good enough for a theatrical release. I imagine that took about the same level of resources as a normal 1 hr 3d debut and he didn't wanna pay out of pocket for extra like Kagami did.

Lmao Matuli is collabing with Sakusan Kanon (The apex vtuber who inclined hard recently). Kanon is getting better numbers than her.

>>6443052
Beating Matsuri in numbers isn't really an accomplishment. She's been in the bottom 1/3rd of holoJP numbers for months now. Kanon is getting Kuzuha level Apex numbers rn so she's definitely beating Matsuri.

>>6443052
Was just about to say this. I need explanation in this

>>6442543
I hope you are not actually this retarded.

>>6443137
Matuli became Sora meaning you don't watch her but you know for sure that she is integral to hololive.

>>6443124
Do you think Kanon can beat Kuzuha, maybe not now but in the future, in Apex streams number wise?

>>6443227
She already does sometime when they stream at the same time.

>>6443137
Matsuri, despite being a 1 mil sub Holo, has a particular bad case of "dead subs" because she has a lot of EOP subs that subbed after watching Bandaids and other clips. However, her actual streams are not very EOP friendly and she's an Apex addict, which even her own core viewerbase dislikes. She can get 10k playing MC, but struggles to break 4k playing Apex, sometimes she gets 2k if she's collabing with smaller vtubers. In terms of Holo numbers, she's mid to low-mid level despite her subcount. The only time I've seen Matsuri gets outstanding numbers (30k+) is collabs on her channel or Apex gacha streams. She knows what she can do to improve her numbers too, she just doesn't give a fuck cuz she loves Apex.

>>6443227
No, her best chance was last week and I think she did briefly. Kanon went viral, but seems to be losing a bit of steam after the initial hype. Kuzuha is basically a lock for 20k+ when he plays Apex, much like Pekora is 27k+ lock when she plays Minecraft.

>>6443124
>Kanon is getting Kuzuha level Apex numbers rn
She did when she started inclining, but the hype has already died down. It could also be that the collabs are hurting her numbers.

>>6440831
>Cries again on members only
>Flow of money
Kek, Kiara has the game already resolved.

>>6443329
What did she cried for this time?

>>6443282
Is the numberchad anon here? I want to see matuli's chart

>>6443227
Aqua can beat both of them if she streams apex on a normal basis, say 3-4 hours instead of her 12 hour solo to Master games. Her apex streams a few months ago nets her around 22-28k views for hours. Although she doesn't play it atm, she keeps two big guns ready whenever she needs it, Minecraft and apex, or Darksouls if they ever get the permissions. She's just too occupied with sponsorships right now.

>>6443349
Cover doesn't fund her music and IRyS got an album for free in her debut.

>>6443407
is this rrat or real? If it's real then it's not a surprise that a lot of people hates her.

>>6443407
Then she should have applied to be a vsinger if she didn't want to front money for a new song.

>>6443431
Half a rrat, she only mentioned Cover not helping her (and this goes to everyone, i remember Kanata saying she had to pay for everything on her last song) but it's pretty obvious the lid finally popped off after IRyS getting support for you know- doing what's shes was contracted to do.

>>6443500
Cover didn't hire her to sing and everyone with an utaite background is used to paying for their own songs in the first place. What a weird thing for her to be unhappy about, you'd think she'd have known how the industry works going in.

>>6443500
Now, let's swing this back to numbers (of a more speculative nature.

What cut of SC/Streaming revenue do you think Cover takes from a V-singer vs the standard chubba? If they're funding more of their stuff, they probably take a higher %cut than the standard one.

Sakusan only has 10k viewers. The Matsuri debuff is real.

1mil+ holochuuba versus two 150k indies
How do we save festival?

>>6443572
It would be the same, the difference is the cut in music revenue

>>6443572
I'm guessing Hololive has an entirely different business model for VSingers where they behave more like a music label than a normal vtuber model. I guess they still take the same SC/membership cut as anyone else but Cover will invest more resources so she can get music gig (for anime or CM or something), creating album, solo concert, etc.

>>6443593
We can't save Festival, only she can save herself and you know what? I can respect it if she doesn't want to force herself to play buff games and chase numbers.

>>6443572
This is rrat but I think the most logical way of setup for them is to maintain the 50/50 cut for stream profits like SCs and Memberships. However, they will probably take a bigger cut for the song related profits like song purchases, royalties, merch and cover funded concerts. Likely profit distribution is 30/70 with 70% going to Cover. They may give her a 50/50 for sponsorships though. This is the most logical to me since she is setting up a lot of streaming hours.

>>6443593
Another 1mil+ subs should do it. Maybe then she can't compete in the numbers game.

>>6443572
I doubt there'll be a change to SCs/streaming. Remember, the stuff they're funding is stuff like MVs and music, of which you can expect most of the profit to go back to them. Think of it like Bloom, where Cover paid for a bunch of songs to be made. Any profit made off the Bloom album/concert would be slanted towards Cover in comparison to songs the girls financed on their own.

>>6443646
Pretty much. She already accepted that this is going to be her viewership since this is the direction she wanted. She tries hard to appease her fans with other streams or a twistcast in the evening so there's that

>>6443646
Yup Festival worked hard to expose Hololive to a wider audience. I respect that and if she wants to play Apex then she can play Apex, she earned that.

>>6443593
This -> >>6443646
Matsuri is completely uninterested in getting good live viewer numbers because she knows her core fanbase hates watching her play Apex, which hurts her numbers and SCs a lot. She also gets 0 respect from the Apex autists despite getting into Master rank. When she landed a gig to commentate on a pro match (essentially a dream gig for an Apex addict like her), chat was just telling her to shut up cuz she sucks.
I wouldn't be surprised if Matsuri has reached Fubuki levels of zen where they're content with doing w/e they want and dgaf if their numbers get eviscerated. Both of them are kind of in retirement mode and haven't tried doing anything ambitious in a few months.

>>6443745
>She also gets 0 respect from the Apex autists despite getting into Master rank.
Because she was carried hard. Why would anyone respect her for that?

>>6440831
How did Kanae get a lot of SCs? Does he have a lot of gachikois?

>>6443745
well her casting was quite weak

>>6443788
I meant to say she gets 0 respect regardless of her rank. I think Towa is lower rank and arguably worse than her, but still gets more respect from Apex autists. Aqua got a lot of Apex tourists too when she was hardstuck in diamond.

>>6443500
>she only mentioned Cover not helping her (and this goes to everyone, i remember Kanata saying she had to pay for everything on her last song)
Duh, that’s exactly how it always was
>official promotional material is paid for the company
>personal projects are paid for by the talent
The reason is obvious too: why would the company bankroll every whim from a talent without concern for viability or profitability? It doesn’t work like that in any industry, let alone entertainment industry.
Things like this clearly show who takes this thing as a professional enterprise and who treats it as a “side job with benefits” thing.
Hats off to Lamy for coming up with the idea, bankrolling and producing her own brand of sake: that shows how confident she was in the idea.

>>6443814
Birthday stream so it's a Niji payday. He also had this cool UI that had special effects depending on what SC he got so he basically got nonstop SCs the entire stream.

>Does he have a lot of gachikois?
Yes, he's 13th in all time SC money for vtubers.

https://playboard.co/en/youtube-ranking/most-superchatted-v-tuber-channels-in-japan-total

>>6443572
Like all the other anon said, i think it's mostly still the same. Think of it as the bonus for the whole Project Hope team. The real money lays in the future album sells and sponsors.

>>6443500
Sauce?

>>6443872
To add on, he is #13 with less than half the # of SCs as the girls around him and averages $18/SC. This means the SCs he gets are big akasupas, and not so much the giant waves of blues that Coco gets when she goes to the washroom.

>>6443855
Wait lammy fund her own sake? I thought it was a product collab. Just like Pekora's plum wine or aki's wine and the homo

>>6443872
>Lamy's almost at 100 million yen and broke into the top 10 not even a year into her career
That's pretty impressive, on top of that she seems to sell a lot of merch too.

>>6443855
>Things like this clearly show who takes this thing as a professional enterprise and who treats it as a “side job with benefits” thing.
That's a mighty big assumption you're making off one 1 out-of-context sentence said in a member stream that no one in this thread has a sauce for. The original anon literally admitted that he was rrating. It could be a joke for all we know.

>>6443970
She has 2 liquor deals. The first one is a group sponsorship with Noel and Aki. The second one is just her. I don't think she spent any money on the production because it is a business deal at this point with the sake company . She was involved in everything. The calligraphy on the box is hers.

>>6443872
What happened to Mori?

>>6444038
impressive

>>6443970
>Wait lammy fund her own sake
To the best of my knowledge, yes. If my japanese didn't betray me she got a partnership with some local maker and there is an upfront cost that is shared between them

>>6444039
She's listed as an artist, not a vtuber. Playboard kinda sucks.
She's right behind Kanae, despite being like 2.5 years younger in vtuber years.
https://playboard.co/en/youtube-ranking/most-superchatted-all-channels-in-japan-total

>>6444038
>it is a business deal at this point with the sake company . She was involved in everything. The calligraphy on the box is hers.
Time is money anon. If they're not paying for her time it is worth the same as money in the bank, invested by her into the success of the product.
I doubt she's not shelling hard cash tho

>>6444061
So she did shelled some money? I thought she didn't. Maybe just on design or something

>>6440831
Sasuga, waga Ojou-sama. KEK LOVE.

>>6442595
Gura's probably the best natural singer in Hololive, which means her ceiling is still really high if she'll devote time to getting better. Her only limit is her vocal range which I don't think can expand that much no matter how much training you do.

>>6444079
I know that. She had like a series just to update everyone with the whole process

>>6444096
She's not using her natural voice. Singing or even talking the way that she does is probably not good in the long run.

wtf kiara is rushia of en

>>6443500
Cover would lose a bunch of money if they paid for everyone's songs. They make jack shit off youtube ad rev on something so short and for every Ahoy there's a bunch of songs that Aki or Roboco do that just sit there at a few hundred k views and everyone forgets about.

>>6444096
>Gura's probably the best natural singer in Hololive, which means her ceiling is still really high if she'll devote time to getting better.
I don't think she'll ever reach her true ceiling honestly. Have you seen the clips from her latest members karaoke? She is still talking/giggling/laughing in the middle of singing for almost all her songs so it hardly seems like she's taking it seriously. I'm not saying she has to be Suisei level of tryhard for her karaokes, but Gura's karaokes "trainwreck" because she can't stop talking or laughing more often times than any HoloJP member.

>>6444038
Damn lammy is based. With her success sell i expect more liquor deal in the future

>>6444184
I think that's just her way of playing it off, like "don't be mad if I flub something cuz I'm obviously not taking this seriously lol". A lot of people have trouble to committing to trying to do something right in front of other people.

Is Holostats down for everyone else? I keep waiting for them to add IRyS but it seems broken now.

Lets keep the topic withing the numberfag anon. Keep the oshi discussion to a minimum or safe it for another thread

>>6444296
yep its down. fuck

My oshi rushia stream less this week and still get 25k?

>>6444296
been down for hours for me

>>6444296
>I keep waiting for them to add IRyS
They did, but default unchecked. You can go to settings and check
>when it comes back to live

>>6444184
Gura is the only thing holding her back.
Had she the drive of say Kiara or Mori she would truly be the “king” of vtubing.
Instead we get wasted talent.

>>6443987
She sold enough merch that for a short time she was negative in monthly earnings.

>>6440831
Newfags here, do members only SC count?
if not, how much it add up to public SC? 1 or 2% ?

>>6445162
plaboard can't count member scs proper, they get a few of those in the waiting room but once the stream starts they have no way to keep track of it. it sucks since my oshi got at least 4k$ in two of hers that will just never be added

>>6445101
What do you mean?

>>6444037
I am talking in more general terms, not about Kiara or this situation. It’s a recurring theme
>why doesn’t the company fund all girls projects regardless of viability or profitability
I mentioned this before, it’s the “unironic simp” mentality that the girls should be catered to no matter what they’re planning.

The “professional” part was to introduce what the girls taking the opportunity seriously are doing: taking personal risk for the chance of personal bigger reward than just the monthly paycheck and whatever donation flows their way.

It cuts both ways too: Aki (if my memory doesn’t betray) created and produced Shallys (high quality MV included) all from her pocket
https://youtu.be/Ii7rtNaGlls

And yet it didn’t pay off big. That’s the nature of risk, people will try and succeed or fail but they’ll keep struggling and pushing forward.

Incidentally if you look for “Aki Rosenthal Shallys” a clip of herself reacting to it is shown instead of the MV
>MOSTLY BECAUSE SHE DOESN’T USE LATIN SCRIPT IN HER CHANNEL NAME
Any Rosetai with an inside channel should suggest it to her. Much like Haachama rebranded herself from “HaatoSama”, Aki would benefit tremendously from a rebrand into
>AkiRose

>>6444096
>Gura's probably the best natural singer in Hololive
I don’t know if Moona had any vocal training but if you catch her singing impromptu on her Minecraft streams
>she sings like a fucking Siren
She seems to be a natural and the funniest part is the mood whiplash of Moona
>singing with the smoothest most beautiful voice
then
>FUCKING HIGH PITCHED ULTRASONIC DOLPHIN LAUGH

Why and how did ibrahim suddenly become a top3 niji
His average tripled post 3d

>>6445717
He's starting a megaproject in Minecraft, people naturally going to check him out.

>>6445710
Not a good comparison since moona was literally an ex-idol

>>6445778
I may have missed some roommate reps but wasn’t she a ex runway model trying to become an idol?

if Kanatan can keep up that momentum she might make #1 in live viewers this month

>>6445769
Hes just building an artificial sky rock for tens of hours straight. Doesnt seem so entertaining.

>>6443431
It's a rrat, do your archive reps

>>6445884
This is correct, Moona stated she joined Hololive thinking it was a proper Idol agency and was a model before she joined Hololive.

>>6445482
Holos pay part of the cost for creating merch out of their own pocket, it’s why they get most of the money.
Lamy sold so much merch that she owed Cover money for a short period of time before she got paid (meaning she sold enough merch to surpass her monthly SC cut)

>>6445914
For you maybe, i find it quite interesting watching big stuff being made in Minecraft.

>>6445974
>Lamy sold so much merch that she owed Cover money for a short period of time
Produced, not sold. Cost of production beat her income for a period of time

>>6445974
Considering how much she rakes in from superchats, she must be loaded right now due to merch sales.

>>6445884
I saw a few videos of her singing in a shopping mall concerts. So I assume she was an idol or a singer as well.

>>6445891
For holo only, Coco is the no.1 at 60k+. Cant beat that shit.

>>6445582
Still about Aki, here is the difference between searching for
>Moona Hoshinova
and
> Aki Rosenthal
on a private window in a new mobile IP (to ensure no bias added by previous searches)

Moona: mostly stuff from her channel, SSSS from Holo channel (they must have done a very good SEO job there) and a couple of stray clips

Aki: SSSS, clip, “that” clip, clip AND A KIARA COLLAB ON KIARA CHANNEL all because it has her name in Latin script.
It’s not rocket science: she got an immense break with “that” clip from overseas saviourfags and should have taken advantage like Towa to increase her base with “this one simple trick”

>>6446263
Missing pic here

>>6443285
But collabs are the only thing she has going for her

>>6445891
huh?

>>6446263
Cover and their managers and talents in general need a crash course in how YouTube works.
Kiara recently fucked herself with her song by putting it in the wrong category (gaming), her artist name was put in Japanese instead of English and she changed her tags, which makes the algorithm stop recommending the video for whatever reason.

>>6443592
It actually might be since I think more of her fans are into regular streamers than actual vtubers

>>6446044
huh?

>>6446009
>25k
Well, i cant argue with the numbers. But, you guys are weird. Its not like hes building a tower, a castle, disneyland, its just a fucking rock.

>>6446450
>need a crash course in how YouTube works.
There are people and whole companies doing that for a living, many even on a “result based” arrangement and with proven track record and success stories to serve as reference.
The problem is that Japan internet surely works different (with Google Translate mediocre results proving that sometimes what works well for the west doesn’t necessarily do for them).
I usually mention Haachama in this regard because she had one of the most brutally efficient SEO of all Holos be it in title, tags, thumbs and everything else
>because she didn’t shy away from experimenting
By trial and error she figured out why certain thumbs were detected and cropped them (or covered just the right bits with kanji) at the exact point to fool YTkun.
She also figured out the “barcode” trick and the even better “jail bars” trick and got away with the lewd streams.

Aki could just experiment a little to “rattle the cage” because she plateaued hard. What’s the worse that can happen, getting double shadow banned?

>>6446680
Sometimes, like Watame and Haachama, Minecraft is just a zatsudan with an activity attached

>>6443970
>>6444061
Lamy's father is a yakuza, her sister is a nurse and her brothers are a CEO and lawyer respectively she is only in hololive because she has no friends irl, she used her fathers blood money to make her sake

>>6440831
Ayamebros

seems like sakusan is going to do an apex gacha stream

Ibrahim has been popping off with his minecraft thing.

>>6446731
>What’s the worse that can happen, getting double shadow banned?
Aki...

>>6447035
>Lamy's father is a yakuza
>blood money
Anon, plz. Yakuza is a bunch of friendly neighbors taking care of their community for a modest fee. Think of them as the nip “HOA”, except they’re not so vindictive and bureaucratic

>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pFDQjXs6ieM
Noel and Senchou in the bath together. Surely this will bring the numbers.

>>6447577
tts donations are such a buff for this kind of streams

>>6448044
This isn't really against YT's ToS right? It got 35k already

>>6448155
It's just audio. Should be fine.

>>6448044
bu-but the cover restrictions.

>>6448326
It's a meme that the ledditars and newfags took seriously

>>6448044
Is this archived?

>>6448446
I haven't seen anything to suggest otherwise.

>>6448326
Appearently all it applies to is saying mother fucker on stream

>28k watching
That's close to Pekora's numbers. Kneel.

>>6448044
58k already, and rising. wow.

Oh boy I can't wait for the fanart to come out of this stream

>>6448044
>Noel and Senchou in the bath together.
>>6448601
>58k already, and rising. wow.
Given how popular NTR tags are among nips Flare could make a subsequent
>reacting to Noel Marine bathing together
and get DOUBLE that easy peasy

I realized a bit that niji sucks even if they had more creative freedom. They can't get 75k people watching a bath asmr. Kuzuha with his e-celeb among us collab is gonna be beaten by this holy fuck.

is holostats dead

>>6448044
> Mimicking Niji and Vshojo
Sluts

>>6449097
Someone upthread mentioned it had died yea.

>>6449107
at least they do it better and with good numbers

>>6448044
Coomers win today

>>6448795
79K.....

>>6449193
>at least they do it better
What's the difference between sluts and sluts doing bath streams?

>>6449296
no m*les involved in this instance

>>6449084
Creative freedom doesn’t mean shit if you don’t use it.

>>6449084
Well yeah. What's the point of having creative freedom when they're not creative enough to take advantage of that?

It broke 80k

>>6449239
Coomers always win.

>>6449376
first time I see a regular stream broke 80K, not gonna lie

>>6449239
>>6449398

Yeah winning at shit taste

>>6449420
I'd hardly call this a 'regular' stream.

>>6449420
And it doesn't even have video

>>6449296
they can get 80k with a bath asmr

>>6449084
mayuzumi lore stream had similar numbers
i would call it more creative compared to a simple bath stream, which even holos have already done a dozen times

>>6449420
you mean a guerilla stream

>>6449296
Ever heard of people being sexier barely clothed than naked? This is that but bathtub streams.

Marine is basically turning us into voyeurists.

>>6449538
Eighty thousand ichimi will be found dead from dehydration in their bathrooms.

Ibra getting an honest 30k on Micra while holowhores have to pander to coomers. Sad

>>6449643
> Ibra
Try better next time, falseflagger

Suisei lost 5k to coomers, even after bringing in Roboco and Rushia. I mean, it's Apex, but still...

>>6449643
Zhangs love that shit
Now that Cover can return to chingchong pandering, holo doesnt need to be Ad-friendly for eops

samefagging cause his bait is shit, sad

>>6449736
nvm, she got them back
hoshiyomi are early shooters, it seems

>>6449736
I detest apex, so I had to betray Suisei to hear that bath stream. I wasn't disappointed at all.

Bros I can't even watch that bath stream and already got a boner

80k live yet 280k on vods
holofags cum rather quickly

>>6449296
You are missing the big picture anon
>local whore takes her clothes off in the local strip club and show every nook and cranny: gets some 150 bucks in singles and tenners
>Dita von Teese keeps most of her body covered and show and hide and insinuate for a whole hour: jam packed theater for 150 bucks a seat, 5000 seats guaranteed
It’s **not** what’s is being shown and given for free easily, it is what is being hidden

>>6450072
Wait till YouTube processes views anonchama.
This always happens during high live viewer livestreams.

>>6450074
Best take on the vod views numbers. Kek

>>6440831
What was that site where you can check the max and average number of live viewers of a stream again?

Suisei over 20k, I kneel

>>6450293
its kill anon , move on.

>>6450293
Holostats is down right now and Vnuma is not exactly enough

>>6446680
He's building sky castle afaik, of course the foundation would be just rocks.

>>6445717
Ibrahim is the one of best Minecraft Builder in Nijisanji. His two previous project the"Nijisanji bridge" and "Downtown shopping district+Hotel" is now considered a landmark in that server and famous for stylish.
And Minecraft is also mean TTS superchat shenanigans.

>>6446680
It will Castle but with Sky island, it's a collab Mega Project. Him and Chihiro(yes the APEX goblin)

>vnuma is shit
>holostats is dead
>2434analytics is dead
Numberbros…

>>6450618
M-maybe the true numbers are the friends we made along the way?

>>6450707
491K those are the only numbers you need.
>RIP Coco

kneel to the gambling king.

>>6449945
You just missed a kino trio with Meteo, Roboo, and Rucifer

>>6450912
Who are the top three, anon?

>>6450618
Don't worry the tribalniggers got this

>>6450912
>who would win: a stream debut or a gacha addict?

>>6450912
>#4

>>6450983
He beat an EN debut stream, Irys is a flop

>>6450912
Why can’t the Niji girls pull the same numbers? Is it cause they’re not as entertaining as the guys?

>>6451028
still mad rejectedchama?

>>6445769
>>6445914
I thought Chihiro asked him to build a house for her.

>>6451036
They pull the numbers that matter. 260k subs, btw.

>>6450912
You could have at least fetched the top 25, anon

>>6451036
ibrahim is a girl, dont let the appearance fool you

>>6451081
Always happy to bring this up

>>6445914
And Haachama was making the tower of Babel, same idea.

>>6451036
sadly yes, Mito and Lize are the only ones that pull good numbers

>>6451102
Give the guy some slack, hes trying his best to falseflag as an obnoxious nijinigger

>>6451123
And I love Coco! She deserves it. Too bad Cover management couldn't appreciate her.
>>6451145
False flag? A fucking EN2 stream got less than Ibra.

>Ibra
Yeah he's not even trying

you are trying too hard falseflagger-kun

>>6450912
next time dont crop out the actual top, pajeet

24gk

>holostats ded
>no numberchad anon
Guess this is /tribal/ now

>>6451239
The point of the post is Ibrahim beating the first real stream of an EN2. Irys is a dud. With a shit design. What were they thinking?

>>6451263
Not sure how I typed “24gk”, when I only meant to show the pic.

>>6451263
Fuck, I really hate that guy in the chat that baited Pekora w/c forced her to delete the stream

>>6451274
I don't find the significance of your point. You saying that means Iris was also beaten by Marine, Pekora and Kanata.

>>6451269
>holostats ded
it is not

>Kuzuha doesn't stream if there's someone else from his company getting a lot of viewers
Numberfag confirmed

>>6451269
it's back up

Why do people say Melody is bad when Marine does stuff like this?
>durr vshojo bad
same fucking thing.

>>6451274
Her design doesnt really fit live2d concept. I dont know why they even wasted money on the rig.
Arent vsingers supposed to be 3D anyway.

>>6451365
tribalism isn't rational, anon

>>6451336
>isreal

>>6451397
tell that to /vt/

>>6451365
Sir, this is the numbers thread. Global thread is two blocks down.

>>6451335
>>6451363
its sitll down for me

>>6451274
>bragging about being ahead of EN AZKI

>>6451431
>h-her subs!
>it doesn't count!
lol, ok.

>>6451365
People dont say melody is bad, because like Marine she can be entertaining without it, if she wants to. Veiwhore in the other hand..

>>6451274
damn, not even a week and she already lives rent free in your head? sad

>>6451366
I think they just wanted a more notable artist, red juice is in huke’s circle of artist friends.
Cover seems to be going for higher profile artists and getting them hooked into their brand.

the pride of nijikeks

>>6451365
Wierdly enough, most people in this board likes Melody and Mousey, the ones they don't like is Nyanners and Veib

>>6451522
oh no no no nijibros we got too cocky

>>6451498
what´s their circle name?

>>6451528
Truth be told most of the board (bar a handful of retards) like what they like and don’t even know enough of others to even acknowledge them, let alone “dislike”

>>6451365
You mistook mel for someone else, anon.

>>6451540
>Gura ahead of Mori
Reflect buff?

>>6451522
poor ibrahim, gambled for 60 minutes and made lots of money.

>>6451365
>>6451397
Very few say Melody is bad; the worst she's been called is "a literal whore" which is true. What people distate in VShojo is the over-reliance on sex for humor and the degree to which they take it in terms of explicitness.

Makes me wonder if the numbers they get correlate with this, since they seem to be hard stuck under 10k CCV and raids only ever get them to barely above 15k

>>6451638
I assume so

>>6451673
->
>>6451123

>>6451679
Melody is honest, Marine is just pretending to be "sexy".

>>6451673
>>6451123

>>6451729
Yes, I like Coco, but you're shitting on Ibrahim who also made a lot of money. I'm not a tribalfag like you. Literally no one will ever beat Coco, I know.

In 2 days we have Okakoro relay costume reveal, any predictions?

>>6451498
whatever. should ve debuted her as a 3D like all other corporate vsingers
but i guess they simply dont want to miss the chance to milk some akasupas from her eventual 3d debut

>>6451365
I have legit never heard of anyone shitting on melody here, it's always nyanners, Veibae, Zen, and occasionally froot whenever cuckery is mentioned.
I feel like most people here have a grudging respect for Melody for being a vtuber before the boom and making e-thots seethe

>>6451498
and huke and redjuice are both shit artists with the 2 worst designs (Kiara, Irys)

coincidence?

>>6451863
She's Coco but does chaturbate

>>6451365
People mostly shit on her for being associated with Nyanners and Veibae.
Those two having to rely on sex jokes to be “funny” or moderately entertaining.

>>6451522
the pride of holosharts. 10x more subs btw

>>6451522
imagine losing to a WoW arena player

>>6451965
Nyanners also has personal beef with alot of people on 4chan so the hate isn't inexplicable.

Its like they saw Kaf and thought wooow a dorky cute schoolgirl with futuristic alt-costume and expressive singing... just like Inori (guilty crown), right?
Surely redjuice will be able to repeat his success and design another masterpiece

>>6449084
everything kuzuha channel does is ultra scuffed and his mind never thinks further than UNGA BUNGA PEWPEW VIDEO GAME so the presence of 'creative freedom' changes nothing for him.

>>6449084
Ibrahim had over 100k watching him play pachinko for an hour.

literally.

>>6452037
I've been wondering, did he ever reach 150k+ live viewers in a single stream before?

>>6452150
Did the shark ever make 17 million yen in a single stream?

>>6452101
For as much as nijiniggers crow about "muh creative freedom" they never seem to actually, you know, do anything with it.

>>6452136
mashaAllah brother

>>6452174
personally i don't think 'creative freedom' is the right choice of words anyway but that wasn't my point, my point was that kuzuha is the worst example.

>>6452174
They’re free to talk about their sex toys like Finana.

>>6452174
You can't do something tame like Asacoco, yet this is normal in Nijisanji:

>>6452174
lolis? booba maids? dominatrixes? pick your flavor.

>>6452286
I wonder how young you have to be to find this funny

>>6452330
I seriously cannot unsee Kanae as the Space Marine from Strange Journey.

>>6452136
Gura had 194k watching her rate outfits and do an outfit reveal kek

>>6452170
Nope, not yet exactly, but it doesn't seem too hard to reach that much if she had her own 3D debut. I mean, she had $120k+ more than him in less than a year. Your days are outnumbered.

>>6452286
>>6452330
There's a whole lot of nijicope at the moment. Imagine needing to justify those acts as good "creative freedom" when it isn't

>>6452459
beating women? the older you become, the funnier it is

imo we should stop saying creative freedom and just say freedom or something. they're obviously not completely free since they're under a company but management seems to be more lax.
some talents like mayuzumi take the opportunity to try something different.
but for others like kuzuha it just means being able to sit and lazily play the same 2 games for hours in a row without being disturbed.
there are advantages and disadvantages, just like with the hololive approach. i think both have given us good streamers and moments.

>>6451336
The funny thing is I’ve seen people say this whenever he streams over a stream with big numbers

>Pekora does gartic phone, a fun game
>more people watch coomer shit
this annoys me, why even bother when you can pander to the lowest denominator

>>6452286
Yeah it's too bad we don't have men in maid outfits and joker knockoffs. Maybe one day....

>>6452286
>>6452459
you can`t expect anything higher than the stooges level of humor from them

>>6452531
Pekora was pandering to neo-nazis though

arent there always like 20 tribalfag, holoanti and nijianti threads in the catalog
go there and feel free to dump your shit
this is a thread for numbers

>>6452498
You can't really reason people who uses creative freedom as their argument. They're mostly shitposters. There's different levels of creative freedom and a line was drawn for Holos, while niji's line is further back than them. What hachama did goes beyond niji's line and for whatever reason coco wants to do that she risked graduation, I don't know either. She probably got bored/tired reading superchats or meme reviews or manager holding her back.

>>6451814
if it is in this order:
Okayu: 85k; Korone: 130k

>>6452480
Ibrahim is soon going to surpass Gura's pitiful SC numbers. He's making more money per week. Cumsharts are poor favela dwellers. She made only $16k in that costume reveal video, kek.

>>6452575
>Pekora was pandering to neo-nazis
S-Sauce?

>>6452699
~30k members = 150k monthly, anonchama

>>6452699
Yet she has 10 times more subs
How do we save Gura?

>>6452728
The stream was deleted, some nazi baited Pekora to draw a swastika on stream or something

>>6452779
in Japan the swastika isn't even offensive, it means something else

>>6452699
Just a normal day in Nijisanji. One get incline others will decline. Im more interested in the decline of Pekora and Kuzuha.

>>6452779
it was a fan drawing, not hers, that she quickly scrolled through the screen

>>6452779
A swastika doesn’t even mean anything in Asia, unless you also believe the OK sign is equally as bad

>>6452779
>baited
Pekora "If they're brown, gun em down" Usada definitely did it on purpose. Her ban hammer. hatred for minorities is only kept in check by Susan and her banhammer.

>>6452734
>Muh member cope
Memberships are not even worth a yellow SC

Just out of curiously, I remember hearing that Deron has a deal with a record company, does anyone know how well her music sells?

>>6452842
yeah but i think some of the pictures have "i love hitler" on them

>>6452531
i think they have to keep it as an unusual event otherwise it would get boring real quick

>>6452842
>>6452910
No literally a 'fan' drew a nazi swastika, red BG, white circle, and the symbol even the twitter of the dude who baited her have him proclaiming he baited Pekora and posting screencaps of it

>>6453116
I'll add that browsing his twitter, he has a lot of Hololive girls edit with swastikas and shit

>>6453116
this is what happens when you pander to EOPs/SOPs

>>6452892
>Im more interested in the decline of Pekora and Kuzuha.
cumsharts really are pathetically sad

>>6452892
you wish they were declining lol kuzuha is doing fine as always and peko surpasses herself every day, leave the king and queen of chuubas out of your shitposts.

>>6451979
>End with near 270k views
How?

>>6452892
32k for gartic phone which is a current meme game, with PEKORA is very low. I'm actually surprised. She does more with Minecraft.

>>6453116
its someone from this board
https://twitter.com/MinionPussie/status/1399177056609394688

>>6451979
Reminder that Tokyo Ghoul' shill streams still get 20k+
The difference between a charismatic person and a bait for pedophiles and underage minecraft addicts

>>6453116
Same difference. I wonder if people realize nips were Nazi allies in the WWII and that not only they never apologized (and still have the shrines to the heroes that raped Nanking or something) but old nazi and Italian fascist monuments are gathering dust in corners nobody care about all over Japan.

Fetishizing “evil” is a recent western retardation, Alexander is still “the Great” and Charles, still “Magnus” even if they wiped out as many people (proportionally) then their successors in success.

Nips themselves, what they did to whatever poor sods got in their way makes Hitler look like a chump

>>6453258
391k now

>>6452699
>Hayato being surpass by chumkids
Niji males...not like this...

>>6453364
Get out

>>6453420
Wut? What was said in that post that is not factual?

>>6453350
based kuzuhachad

>>6453275
maybe because she was forced to cut the stream short because of that incident? I don't know, I did not watch it

>>6453386
it's supposed to be impressive that a chuuba with 3 million subs outperforms ones with under 400k? really chumbuds?

>>6453364
Everyone knows this. Also, it's completely off-topic. Get out.

>>6453478
Mito played the game without issue, I guess EOPs have to ruin everything.

>>6453350
it depends what game he's shilling, mid to late 10000s is common.

>>6453275
>current meme game
It's new for holos. Her and Miko were the first ones to try it out with hololive audience. And with what happened, also most likely the last.

>>6453491
Nah, it was just context related to why a windmill of peace showing is not something remarkable on a nip stream.
Didn’t Miko even made one in her shrine?

>>6453536
can't do that when you have a huge EOP audience.

>>6453531
Games with audience participation in any form attracts the worst cancer. See
> that game Haachama played which the author self inserted in such a retarded way it made everybody cringe hard including the streamer

>>6453531
peko is doing again, but only members will be able to participate on the drawings next time

>>6453488
>Gura debut on Sep 2020
>Hayato debut on July 2019

>>6453618
as people already mentioned, the problem is most prevalent in eop audience

>Holostats still down
>Problem is that the “poi.cat” domain suddenly stopped resolving
Author updated the source code on GitHub yesterday so it doesn’t look like himself bailing from the project but maybe some oversight on renewing the domain

>>6453686
Yeah, nip cancer is different. See: APEX

>>6452062
Difference is Kaf is actually a good singer...

Pekora should have used members only. No member would do something stupid, random EOPs? Yes.

>A-Anons...
Best part is that this number means fuck all except for haters, which seethe hard at the implication of success this number carries

>>6453488
260k subs, btw.

20k for Patra ASMR right now.
That was a slow rampup, because when I checked before she was at about 11k.

>>6453675
she still has 3 million subscribers vs his 380k. she SHOULD be doing better than him.

I thought Hololive was the only viable company?

>>6453845
>>6451123

>>6453894
the comparison is to shark, retard. We all know Coco is the best and always will be.

>>6453891
>ibrahim getting kuzuha numbers for minecraft
it's what my boy deserves

baitposter, if jannies implemented IDs to every poster, how close would you be to suicide?

>>6452699
Unless Ibrahim pulls out a second 3D debut out of his ass, your soon is going to be 2 years at the current rate

>>6453932
maybe people will finally realize none of the people baiting in numbers threads actually watch the chuubas they bait with

>>6453932
That implies jannies even doing anything to begin with.

>>6453891
holo mostly streams for kids, so not much point in contesting such timeslot

>>6454030
Ibrahim is streaming to a JOP audience. Hololive appeal to all timezones. There's no excuse, really.

>>6454055
boyfriend has a job tommorow so holowhore has to go to bed much earlier
the cock wont suck itself

>>6454055
cope harder nijibronie

Who has the highest live viewers or VOD views in a solo game stream?( chatroom allowed)

>>6443227
It's possible but probably not soon The initial boom is over and her live viewers are down from peak hype levels. That said, she gets a solid 10k+ on non-zatsudan at 200k subs which I haven't seen anywhere else. Her gacha stream after the collab (now unlisted) peaked at 15k or so. I think this was higher than the collab itself. I think her growth will in part be dependent on how good she can get at Apex.

>>6443285
>>6446387
It depends on who the collabs are. Important to remember that she's more part of Apextube than Vtube, like Hal and Vspo. Collab with Bodoka and Nyantako played better to her audience than collab with Matsuri and Sqla. Her highest numbers are still on solo streams but this also coincides with the hype so it's hard to tell at this point.

>>6443359
>I want to see matuli's chart
Like Aki and Mel, one of the few Holos not to benefit from the "Lapiz Lazuri" to "PekoMoona" Hololive incline mostly because she was doing her own things in the period.

Her views trail her subs hard too, mostly because she is one of the "gateway" Holos for EOP, lots of people got their first contact with Hololive either via "I am Hololive" clip; "I'm a hard working girl" cat Mario clip or, most notably, "went to school wearing band aids for bra" clip, which does not reflect her character or her streams the littlest.

Here is all of her streams with 10k+ peak, despite having Lyger on her camp she doesn't really care at all about EOP audience
>2021-06-04 :: 29810/37724 :: 【#ホロカラ覗き見】ホロライブのカラオケを覗き見!? / 3Dstream【ホロライブ/夏色まつり】
>2021-07-01 :: 19145/25891 :: すこしだけ
>2021-05-30 :: 19080/23544 :: 【APEXガチャ】半年間徳をつみました。いけます!【ホロライブ/夏色まつり】
>2021-01-02 :: 16813/22659 :: 【ガチ親】ママはVTuber志望らしい。【ホロライブ/夏色まつり】
>2021-06-01 :: 14567/17952 :: 【#夏色まつり3周年】3周年だ!あれもこれも見せちゃいます!【ホロライブ/夏色まつり】
>2021-06-01 :: 11606/15826 :: 【100万人耐久】歌って歌って歌い続けろ!【ホロライブ/夏色まつり】
>2021-01-03 :: 10082/14570 :: 【APEXガチャ】新年でめでたいし天井じゃなくてもひける説【ホロライブ/夏色まつり】
>2021-07-03 :: 7575/12101 :: 【Minecraft】おまつりまだ間に合いますか?【ホロライブ/夏色まつり】
>2021-03-28 :: 7790/11345 :: 【耐久】90万人超耐久!歌い続けろ!【ホロライブ/夏色まつり】
>2021-01-06 :: 7042/10848 :: 【マリオカート8DX】補助輪卒業2日目!まつりの成長みてね!先生ッ!【ホロライブ/夏色まつり】
>2021-01-05 :: 7266/10763 :: 【マリオカート8DX】補助輪卒業!ショートカットを覚える!【ホロライブ/夏色まつり】
>2021-07-05 :: 6985/10273 :: 【Minecraft】よふかし('ω')【ホロライブ/夏色まつり】
>2021-05-27 :: 8781/10107 :: 【#from1st前夜祭】ついに明日はライブ当日だぁ!!【ホロライブ/夏色まつり】

>>6455490
And here are her Q3 and Q4 streams over 10k, her greatest hits were mostly special events and collabs.
Matsuri didn't actually change, it is Hololive that grew massively around her while she stays put and does her thing. Same for Fubuki, for instance
>2020-10-28 :: 36217/49961 :: 【新衣装お披露目】本気の新衣装!ラフ案まで全部見せますッ!【ホロライブ/夏色まつり】
>2020-07-28 :: 34867/46038 :: 【新live2Dお披露目会】生まれ変わったまつりを見て!!【ホロライブ/夏色まつり】
>2020-07-22 :: 25276/30766 :: 【#夏色まつり誕生祭3D】夏色まつり誕生祭2020本日の主役はこのまつり!!【ホロライブ/夏色まつり】
>2020-06-20 :: 22195/30656 :: 【3Dライブ】2周年記念!今夜だけはまつりが主役!【ホロライブ/夏色まつり】
>2020-11-29 :: 18077/25355 :: 【APEXガチャ】地獄へようこそ。天井でしかひけない女が奇跡を起こす!?【ホロライブ/夏色まつり】
>2020-12-25 :: 17776/23577 :: 【#ホロライブクリスマス】SINGING!!プレゼントはお歌でどうですか!【ホロライブ/夏色まつり】
>2020-08-20 :: 14327/21346 :: 【APEX】キルするまでしゃべれない地獄!?【姫森ルーナ/白上フブキ/夏色まつり】
>2020-11-17 :: 16512/21049 :: 【オフコラボ】みんなでピザを囲んで女子会!!【夏色まつり/星街すいせい/天音かなた/桃鈴ねね】
>2020-12-02 :: 13042/17409 :: 【Phasmophobia】唯一ホラーが苦手なJKがプロ幽霊調査隊に強制送還!?【白上フブキ/夏色まつり】
>2020-09-01 :: 14725/17271 :: 【3D】祝!50万人記念!!暴れる!!【ホロライブ/夏色まつり】
>2020-12-27 :: 13688/16770 :: 【桃太郎電鉄】今宵は戦争じゃいッッッ!!!!!!!!!【鷹宮リオン/フレン・E・ルスタリオ/白銀ノエル/夏色まつり】
>2020-10-15 :: 11171/15569 :: 【ガチャ】APEX100連ガチャで沼発狂RTA!?【ホロライブ/夏色まつり】
>2020-10-17 :: 11744/15067 :: 【Minecraft】ホロトラップダンジョン制作!~素材集め編~#1【ホロライブ/夏色まつり】
>2020-11-24 :: 9325/13717 :: 【#ホロライブ運動会】運動場貸し切り!ぼっちの運動会!?【ホロライブ/夏色まつり】
>2020-10-20 :: 9277/13691 :: 【晩酌】よってま~す!!YEEEEEEEE!!【ホロライブ/夏色まつり】
>2020-11-03 :: 7674/12067 :: 【Human Fall Flat】私服組の楽しいおデート・・・?【白銀ノエル/夏色まつり】
>2020-08-14 :: 8540/11601 :: 【Fall Guys】ガチギレ注意!?I am No.1!!【ホロライブ/夏色まつり】
>2020-12-12 :: 9614/11322 :: 【オフコラボ】チキン食べながら歌ったりお話したり!!【小鳥遊キアラ/夏色まつり】
>2020-07-12 :: 7654/10790 :: 【マイクラらぶらぶ計画】嫉妬の激情に呑まれたルーナ姫に許してもらうためにある計画を始める....!【ホロライブ/夏色まつり】
>2020-11-21 :: 7202/10707 :: 【#ホロライブ運動会】写真家まつりとみる思い出の写真たち【ホロライブ/夏色まつり】
>2020-07-04 :: 5695/10546 :: 【APEX】1時間で出したダメージ=明日の食費!【ホロライブ/夏色まつり】
>2020-10-20 :: 7989/10539 :: 【Minecraft】ホロトラップダンジョン制作!~素材集め編~#2【ホロライブ/夏色まつり】
>2020-08-10 :: 6982/10345 :: 【APEX】1時間で出したダメージ=明日の食費!贅沢orもやし?【ホロライブ/夏色まつり】
>2020-06-30 :: 5706/10343 :: 【PIEN】ホラゲ苦手でもこれなら余裕でしょwww【ホロライブ/夏色まつり】
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