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new twitch policies just dropped
onlyfans in SHAMBLES

https://safety.twitch.tv/s/article/Updating-our-Approach-to-Sexual-Content-and-Content-Classification-Labels?language=en_US

>> No.64449605

>>64449526
Previously prohibited but now Allowed With Label
>Fictionalized (drawn, animated, or sculpted) fully exposed female-presenting breasts and/or genitals or buttocks regardless of gender. There is a thriving artist community on Twitch, and this policy was overly punitive and did not reflect the impact of the content.

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My queen shall reign

>> No.64449641
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64449641

>>64449605
Twitch I kneel

>> No.64449680

>>64449526
Holy shit are they turning twitch into a softcore porn site

>> No.64449730

>>64449526
>Twitch is now a camsite
Can't wait to see kson's pussy.

>> No.64449763

>>64449680
too bad the koreans got banned

>> No.64449936

>>64449526
Lmao. Desperate.
Thots will reign supreme, and the culture will collapse, bowing down to money. All as intended.

>> No.64449944

>>64449605
>They didn't make exceptions for loli and shota
Can't wait to see how this shitshow plays out.

>> No.64449960

>>64449680
>>64449730
not really it's just closer to youtube now, twitch used to be way more prude.
>>64449936
holoseethe

>> No.64450081

>>64449960
Guess that's why they had to cover choco's cleavage because she kept getting shadowbanned. Because youtube is too lax.

>> No.64450098

>>64449526
Holy shit, i didn't expect with all the advertisers push for them to go full whore.
Good on Matsuri for being a trailblazer.

>> No.64450151

>>64450081
no it's because they got mass reported, dummy

>> No.64450184

Bet Senran Kagura is still banned from being played though

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>>64449526

>> No.64450341

Actually sounds good for once. Thots are gonna thots anyway, so making them stream under a label instead of pointlessly playing whack-a-mole with them is reasonable.

>> No.64450366

>>64449680
The site is bleeding money. Youtube never made a profit and now they are trying to get past adblock to get around that. This is all because the meme flu fucked the economy and tech companies are getting assfucked as people want to know where the money is.

>> No.64450469

>>64449960
>twitch used to be way more prude
Only if you didn't know someone behind the scenes.

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>>64449526
they went full PORN wtf

>> No.64450497

>>64450366
>Youtube never made a profit
Because Google killed everything they make after 1 year if not sooner

>> No.64450499

So vtuber can show pussy as long as it's animated? Also you can play hentai games as long as it's not bestiality/rape/loli/guro?

>> No.64450498

>>64450366
>This is all because Biden and the EU printing money for Ukraine fucked the economy
Fixed that for you.

>> No.64450505

>>64449680
Twitch has always been the sleazier website but now they are deliberately chasing after coomers.

>> No.64450558

>>64450469
there's literally porn with full nudity on youtube, you just have to pretend to be a doctor

>> No.64450560

Twitch is a porn site.

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64450570

>>64450499
Not really, it needs to not represent the streamer.

>> No.64450578

>>64449526

Damn, the ad change did that much damage to them huh

>> No.64450580

In light of these new changes, /vt/ should be a NSFW board.

>> No.64450587 [DELETED] 

>>64450499
sexual interaction with another person is still banned
you can grind your pussy on a pole but no sex

>> No.64450629

>>64450498
Oh fuck off. The Ukraine shit is nothing compared to locking down the entire country and paying people to stay home. The former is just America donating old surplus instead of leaving it in the desert.

>> No.64450679

>>64449630
I wonder if she will maintain a split for whatever reason.

>> No.64450687

>>64450498
Solid bait, not bad.

>> No.64450701

>>64450570
I see. Well hentai games don't represent the streamer so those are gtg at least right?

>> No.64450721

>>64450366
>>64450497
youtube is profitable
it stop losing money like 5 years ago.

>> No.64450733

>>64450701
no, games with sexual content are banned
unless they are AAA

>> No.64450772

ohoy sponsors are gonna love to see big cleavage cartoons on the site now or women twerking on streams now.

Seriously what are they thinking?

>> No.64450808

>>64450772
They want simp money like OF.

>> No.64450855
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>>64450721
>youtube is profitable

>> No.64450884

>>64450772
those categories aren't on the front page anymore

>> No.64450892

>>64450808
what fucking money?
are they really that fucking desperate that they would risk spnsors over extra bits?

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>>64450580
This

>> No.64450964

>>64450570
That's old policy, it says nothing of the sort in the article going over the new policy.

>> No.64450973

>>64449526
>female presenting breasts
yeah, to me.

>> No.64451018

>>64450570
>present as a woman
draw a woman and call it a man (female). They hate this one simple trick.

>> No.64451060

>>64450964
There is nothing in the article that says all of the old policy is thrown out either

>> No.64451063

>>64450892
You haven't looked at twitch in a while, have you?

>> No.64451070

Oh, not a bad idea.
If it needs to be categorized it can be blocked altogether.

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>>64450964
The attire requirements still apply.

>> No.64451096

>>64450098
I can't believe YAGOD got out his phone and called John Twitch and threatened him over the VODs.
I kneel. It wasn't even her stream that mattered.

>> No.64451105

>>64449763
Why do you think they can now try to unban a lot of stuff?

>> No.64451113

>>64450679
Anon, she has one, it's older than /vt/.

>> No.64451144

>>64449680
They need every viewer they can get

>> No.64451156
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64451156

>>64450855
i mean those big names and sponsors are all on youtube.
We might not like what it entails for the content but lets not be blind.

>> No.64451162

>>64451113
He's talking about splitting her streams between Twitch and CB, he's not talking about /pmg/

>> No.64451200

>>64451156
Youtube is profitable, livestreaming on Youtube probably not.

>> No.64451219

>>64451156
jesus 2015 to 2018 was grim

>> No.64451266

>>64451162
Ah, you're right.

>> No.64451283

>>64449526
I didn't know twitch streaming weddings was a thing.
...Why are people twitch streaming weddings?

>> No.64451284

>>64451156
covid made the rich richer

>> No.64451285

Um, based? Never thought Id complement Bezos but seriously this is a great idea.

>> No.64451286

>>64450580
Burn in hell coomer

>> No.64451309

>>64451200
nigga ads, sperchat and all that happens on all fo them.monetization happens same way.
Youtube livestream has more watchhours than twitch unless you are only counting youtube gaming.

>> No.64451350

>>64451283
knut had a big wedding stream 2 months ago
even the CEO of twitch was there playing the keyboard

>> No.64451359

>>64450721
No it never. It never recovered from the adpocalypses and people leaving for other sites.
Literally every "it does" is "analysts predict it is" suffixed to the number.
They horribly misunderstand how obscenely expensive it is to deliver video, especially recently with the 4k meme and increased bitrates.
It's hard to know the true cost of Youtube because most of its traffic is ran over Googles CDNs, if it wasn't Youtube straight up wouldn't exist period, would have died years ago because of the stupid costs that make the recent Twitch Vs Korea stuff look generous.

>> No.64451366

>>64451284
they were hitting green numbers on 2018 they exploded on covid and doubt anyone cant take that crown of them. Youtube is just the king of media in general.

>> No.64451384
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64451384

>female-presenting streamers

>> No.64451432

So is Twitch no a porn site?

>> No.64451441

>>64451309
>youtube has more watch hours than a business that has never made a profit
Why would doing unprofitable things more be profitable?

>> No.64451446

>>64451286
Where do you think you are?

>> No.64451451

>>64451359
>>64451156

>> No.64451454

>>64450570
The question is whether Live2D is animation or augmented reality.

>> No.64451475

>>64451432
no but you won’t get banned for being “too revealing” anymore

>> No.64451515

>>64451451
>hurr bigger number
One of their own staff revealed the site is barely break even and that was before covid.

>> No.64451522

>>64450679
The ToS still prohibits depictions of masturbation and sex, so yes she still has plenty of reason to stick with CB.

>> No.64451549

>>64451441
more adds, more people watching.
the issue with twitch is it cant get more people and it cant get the current ones to watch adds.
Even with addblocker they were still hitting 20B dollars on reveneu a year becasue a lot of people are still watching youtube adds.

>> No.64451590

>>64451515
did you miss the big 40% jump on that big number from 2019 to 2020
Nigga youtube is profitable what are you getting mad at that?
that shit will probbaly outlast us.

>> No.64451605

>>64451454
Seeing as Live2D translates a real-life movement into a digital character, it most likely counts as augmented reality,

>> No.64451634

>>64450570
>vtuber
>haha we are no woman
watch as they pull this shit.

>> No.64451673

>a bunch of camwhores use twitch to direct teenagers to their onlyfans
>twitch: this is so wrong
>relaxes sexual guidelines
Clown world.

>> No.64451804

>>64451673
They have much less reach with these changes though

>> No.64451815
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TOTAL
WHORE
DOMINATION

>> No.64451875
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64451875

>>64450570
>still no underboob
then what's the fucking point

>> No.64451880

>>64451549
Twitch probably has better ad compliance than Youtube because popular adblockers often don't work there, whereas Youtube had to resort to threats to get people to turn them off

>> No.64451878

>>64451283
>Hyperreality is a concept in post-structuralism that refers to the process of the evolution of notions of reality, leading to a cultural state of confusion between signs and symbols invented to stand in for reality, and direct perceptions of consensus reality. Hyperreality is seen as a condition in which, because of the compression of perceptions of reality in culture and media, what is generally regarded as real and what is understood as fiction are seamlessly blended together in experiences so that there is no longer any clear distinction between where one ends and the other begins.

>> No.64451918

>>64449605
What so hentai is allowed? If I'm reading this correctly than lewd chuubas with revealing models and ero artists that do draw streams are fine as long as they label their media

>> No.64451938

>>64451673
Can't have onlyfans taking money they could be spending on twitch bits instead.

>> No.64452030

>>64451454
They clarified that applies to vtubers

>> No.64452068

>>64450570
>>64451875
For real though, why is underboob somehow so much more terrible than exposing half the breasts at the top?

>> No.64452100

>>64452030
Source?

>> No.64452130

>>64452100
Vtubers have been banned for underboob

>> No.64452200

HELL YEAH, I LOVE TIDDIES.

>> No.64452204

>>64452130
Under the old guidelines. We're trying to get clarification here how these new guidelines apply to vtuber models.

>> No.64452254

>>64451590
I dunno, I trust actual Youtube staff over someone misreading graphs. (probably ex staff by now)
There's a reason they lost most of their good staff, their management is fucking retarded.
They HAD to replace them all with pajeets and retards doing summer schools because everyone knows how hellish it is in the company through word-of-mouth and nobody is going near them with a barge pole.
It's in a shitty sorry state now. You'd be lucky if they have any programmers of worth in the numbers of images currently in this thread right now.

>>64452130
Some even get banned if they put a teddy in front of their chest that simply happens to be close to flesh colored.
lol
Even happened on Youtube a couple days ago to a Taiwanese L2D rigger who got her VOD nuked.
I remember it also happened to Korone and A-chan when Korones face was put below A-chan at her chest, some drawn image, and the image was constantly being detected as boobs and gto the streams nuked several times. (that was back at the start of the pandemic when they turned their shitty automoderation tools up to 11 and half of Youtube were getting banned for stupid shit)

>> No.64452473

>>64450580
All boards should be NSFW. The whole argument about boards turning into a porn spamming dump if it turns red is just jannys not wanting to do more unpaid work.

>> No.64452490

>>64449680
>turning?
it always was onlyfans light

>> No.64452628

>>64449605
CUNNY ON TWITCH LETS FUCKING GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

>> No.64452679

>>64449630
I guess it's time to sub to Mel finally.

>> No.64452687

>>64449526
Gross.

>> No.64452698

>>64450184
oh right, now maybe Huniepop will be unbanned

>> No.64452724

>>64449526
>vtubers can now go fully nude on twitch
lmao based
take this 3D sluts

>> No.64452766

>>64451384
They don't want to upset mtf trannies by calling people with tits women.

>> No.64452788

>>64452473
so you agree that it’s gonna turn into porn spamming dump

>> No.64452791

https://www.twitch.tv/growlypatas
Its starting...
Gay furry penis...

>> No.64452796

It's my time to shine
I'll wow the gaming world with my in depth playthrough of Violated Heroine

>> No.64452797

>>64452254
nigga the whole fucking talk was about being profitable and youtube is. what the hell are you balbbering about?

>> No.64452842

>>64452791
yeah twitch didnt think this trough uh?
cant wait for the loli drawings

>> No.64452853

I actually think the new twitch rules were a reaction to the video Asmongold made a week or two ago about how confusing Twitch's sexual policies are.
Now they're doing exactly what Asmongold wanted and literally allowing stripteases and poledances

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NpcXIL0lF2A

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64452865

>>64451918
Only drawing hentai, being hentai isn't allowed
An artist can draw a vtuber model with tits and hole on stream and not get banned, but using that model and showing the tits and hole will get you clapped
>>64452628
pic related

>> No.64452908

>>64452628
>broadcasting nude or partially nude minors is always prohibited, regardless of context

they haven't changed that, I'm not sure the "she's actually a 30 year old woman behind the avatar" and "the character is 1000 years old" is going to help against Twitch jannies.

>> No.64452912

>>64452473
That's a quick and easy way to see the entire site devolve into /b/. They tend to be extremely lenient on NSFW here in particular anyway, so I'm good chief.

>> No.64452927

>>64452865
>this girl is actually 20 years old
there done

>> No.64452929

>>64452791
bruh

>> No.64452931

>>64452473
This. Coomer content filters seething females too, it would drastically increase the quality of the entirety of 4chan.

>> No.64452993

You better be ready to clip and record every bit of insanity that gets streamed over the weekend because its going to be a wild west before everything is set in stone.
Nipples, cunnies, maybe even buttholes. People are gonna go crazy with their own interpretations of the rules.

>> No.64452998

>>64452068
Old Twitch lore is why. Titty streamers used to wear those super short crop tops with the entirety of their tits outs so the underboob rule was implemented. Twitch rules are often created in reaction to something happen on the site.

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>>64449526
>female-presenting breasts

>> No.64453067

>>64452791
twitch chuubas ought to jump ship to youtube now if they want any trace of dignity to what they do. coming soon (like, today even) - vshojo streams next to coomer titty streams and furry porn streams. or hell maybe vshojos will all get nude models now too because Twitch itself is now turning tricks to survive.

>> No.64453108

>>64453067
>or hell maybe vshojos will all get nude models now too because Twitch itself is now turning tricks to survive.
kek
imagine
all the vtubers are gonna become digital ewhores

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64453151

>>64453108
>become

>> No.64453158

>>64449526
this could be really based

>> No.64453159

>>64450629
You do realize the us support for Ukraine is only 31% surplus, the rest is money and new buys. Try to actually have facts before you speak, dumb anon.
https://www.cfr.org/article/how-much-aid-has-us-sent-ukraine-here-are-six-charts

>> No.64453184

>>64453151
i mean ALL of them

>> No.64453220

>>64453159
>>>/pol/

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>>64453184

>> No.64453281

>>64452797
But it isn't now, is it?

>> No.64453378

Fuck i'm going to be jerking off so much...

>> No.64453412

Spending most our lives living in a coomer's paradise...

>> No.64453429

>>64452788
Not if jannys do their fucking jobs properly and set limits.

>> No.64453456

>>64452865
Okay, but with anime, how will you define which is considered "youth"? I've seen cutting boards old enough to drink and titty monsters in middle school...

>> No.64453517

>>64453429
Its hard enough to have normal conversations amidst children and shitposters without throwing groups of people gooning into the mix.

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64453647

>making these changes right before all of the children get out of school for 2 weeks of christmas break
What did they mean by this?

>> No.64453705

>>64453647
They gotta hook em young, you know?

>> No.64453739

>>64453067
>dignity
>on twitch

>> No.64453769

>>64449526
>people bitching for years about the onlyfans sluts streaming porn on twitch to kids
>twitch finally does something about it by giving the whores even more freedom
lol is this real

>> No.64453847

>>64453769
only seething 1views with blue-dyed hair complain about this shit

>> No.64453849

>>64453456
Same way you define pornography, you'll know it when you see it

>> No.64453880

https://www.twitch.tv/slugbox
Slugbox about to try drawing tits

>> No.64454030
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Wont the fleshtubers throw a gigantic bitchfit when they see that vtubers like Mel can show their tits on twitch but they can't?

>> No.64454069
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>>64454030
They can't.

>> No.64454091

>>64454030
Mel can't, it uses tracking therefore bad.

>> No.64454126

>>64449763
Porn is banned in korea, they wouldn't have been able to take advantage of this regardless.

>> No.64454218

>>64449526
>>64454069
>two completely contradicting statements
Looking forward to the shitshow this will turn into.

>> No.64454245

>>64454069
>>64454091
That rule is vague and they'd have to clarify it. For example they obviously wont let Mel ride dildos on VRChat, but would she care if she had a Live2D that showed tits on stream?

And then if the answer is yes, whats stopping her from just using an animated GIF as her avatar that has no tracking? That loophole is way too big to not exploit.

>> No.64454491

>>64454245
That's why all the whores (affectionate) are hesitant to do anything just yet, they don't want to be the one to cross the new line

>> No.64454818

Even some of the artists I know aren't tempting fate. Some of them having been hit by bans before, some for just drawing panties under a skirt. Seriously.

>> No.64454975

>>64449763
This is a W. Koreans need to talk to their retarded government if they want twitch back

>> No.64455031

>>64450366
YouTube isn't expected to make a profit. Alphabet would be more than happy to increase its revenue streams but in the meantime YouTube serves as their loss leader, the write-off item used to get you-- the consumer-- in the door so they can start making real money off your data. The ad block thing is just an attempt to make you pay for the pleasure of commoditizing your information.

>> No.64455189

>>64454218
>>64454245
they don't contradict. you can draw a nude picture. you can't be a nude vtuber.

>> No.64455272

>>64455189
>use a nude image or animation that has no tracking as your vtuber avatar
Explain how this violates their rules then.

>> No.64455314

>>64455031
Pretty much this. People are confusing revenue for their profit, they aren't even close to profit now because of the monumental increase in viewership from the run-on effects of the pandemic.
It never really translated to a major increase in subs. Ironically vtubers resulted in a huge amount of their actual incoming money, despite shafting them for like 1.5 years during that period back at the start of it.
The anti adblocking moves is one of their hopes, likewise selling higher bitrates and resolutions.
They could do so much more, but they don't have the raw talent to do it, most of their devs are thick as shit. Youtube source and the sites very operation is FILLED with bandwidth wasting shit.
They HAVE been tweaking some of that recently, loads of people noticed them doing some weird A/B testing with bandwidth, bitrates, buffer sizes being larger or shorter, pausing videos quicker if you unfocus, to name a few I personally noticed.

>> No.64455328

>>64451156
>revenue = profit
Holy fuck this board is retarded

>> No.64455365

>>64455314
>The anti adblocking moves is one of their hopes
lmao that already backfired on them.

>> No.64455472

>>64455365
Eh, not really. For us it doesn't matter. The average normalfag probably panicked and simply turned it off.
MAYBE some of them will figure out how to google and find some guides to fix it, but after a few more times of that and they'll probably just cave for good.
The normalfags are the ones that sit with Youtube open all day in the background, the ads just blend in to the noise for them.

>> No.64455526

>>64455472
They're move to remove adblockers created an arms race, adblockers are getting more sophisticated and now there's more adblocker users than ever. Reminder even the FBI recommends you use adblockcers, and Youtube has a poor track record of letting malicious ads through.

>> No.64455578

>>64455526
>They're
Their
Fuck

>> No.64455813

>>64455526
True, it's a short term victory at best.
There are ways they could automate a lot of shit to make it hell for people trying to block ads, but it will only get worse if they go that route, for them that is.
This is why they are desperately trying to push through their new shitty API for extensions to try murder adblockers on Chromium browsers.
Wait, no, sorry, to make the web safer so malicious extensions can't inject themselves in to your webpages!!!

>> No.64456030

>>64451156
>revenue = profit
/vt/ ladies and germs

>> No.64456114

>>64449944
The same way everything has always gone on twitch: If they don't like you, they'll ban you. If you have twitch staff masturbating in your chat, you can do whatever.

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>>64449526
>female presenting
These newspeak words just keep getting more retarded

>> No.64456200

>>64453847
That’s a weird complaint have you ever thought of just watching porn

>> No.64456268

>>64449526
>resulted in female-presenting streamers being disproportionately penalized
They got a slap on the wrist at worst, and would be back by the end of the week. Meanwhile, if a male so much as sneezes out of line, they'll get a permaban.

>> No.64456276

>>64449526
Inflation is a bitch

>> No.64456309

>>64455328
You just noticed that these people are retarded

>> No.64456492

>>64456276
You probably need to go to Rule34 for that.

>> No.64456511

>>64452473
/pol/, one of the two busiest boards doesn’t have much porn and when it does it usually gets reported and deleted swiftly. Any porn there is typically from retarded trolls rather than people actually posting porn for genuine reasons.

>> No.64456573

The koreans died for this.

>> No.64456690

>>64454126
They were already doing most of this, Twitch KR ToS were more permissive.

>> No.64456860

>>64456573
Thank you Korea. Regardless of whatever will come out of this.
Even if it might not allow vtuber nipples because they'll probably interpret the changes in whatever way they want.

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>> No.64457324

>>64457125
lmao
women

>> No.64457558

>>64455272
Moron. If a nude tuber is treated the same as a nude streamer, obviously that would just be treated as if you had a gif of a nude streamer

>> No.64457613

>>64457558
>If a nude tuber is treated the same as a nude streamer
*that uses tracking
You left that part out. Its not the same at all.

>> No.64457848

>>64455365
Personally I think it's a repeat of the early days of captcha where we all started training Google AIs under the guise of security checks. This is, in my opinion, the early days of an as yet unknown overarching automated algorithm that Alphabet will use to sell you the means to secure yourself from being monetized by any info-tech concern that isn't Alphabet or their customers and investors. They already use Google search to tell you what they want you to know, YouTube to keep you entertained while they harvest the minute details of your life, Android to control your communication and monitor your "offline" habits, and chromium to offer you the illusion of choice; an AI entity designed to make the most efficient use of all that data is the logical next step.

>> No.64457864

>>64449526
Won't they just not tag it so they can get on the front page?

>> No.64458032

>>64450366
There's utility in controlling the largest video site in the world beyond pure profit, and Google can easily afford to keep it going.
Think of it a bit like the american defense budget. Sure, it might seem like a huge waste of money in peace times but it also gives the US enormous leverage in geopolitics.

>> No.64458073

sometimes i just wanna listen to some chatting or watching videos together while i play some videogames or work.... i like masturbating but if pornography is being shoved on my face all the time it just gets fucking annoying

>> No.64458107

>>64457613
Reading it again, apparently animated gifs would be allowed so its likely an artistic depiction would be allowed as long as its not a gif of the augemnted character with body tracking. You're not a moron.

>> No.64458244

>>64457864
They'd get banned and any chuuba that gets money out of Twitch wouldn't risk something that dumb unless they were seriously retarded on second thought, that's a lot of twitch streamers

>> No.64458321

so... can loli vtubers simply just appear with the nude toggle now?

>> No.64458344

>>64457864
if you break the rules they automatically apply the tag to your account for some time

>> No.64458353
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>>64458107
Thanks anon. For an example of what I mean:
https://ci-en.dlsite.com/creator/9053
Scroll down to pic related. This sort of thing should be 100% allowed based on these new rules. Not the actual audio itself, mind you, I'm not saying they can get away with that. Just the live2d animation being used here that isn't using tracking. Nothing in the new rules suggests it wouldn't be allowed.

>> No.64458354

>>64458073
Sorry anon, but you're in a coomer's paradise. You'll just have to deal with it or you're a misogynist incel or something. Now please take the latest vaccine.

>> No.64458371

>>64453517
If it means I get to filter SEA posters, then it's completely worth it

>> No.64458408

>>64458073
Nobody is forcing you to enter porn channels though. There are plenty of streamers who will never ever do anything with this.

>> No.64458427

>>64458344
I can already see some women making a twitter campaign about the discrimination of it all.

>> No.64458448

>>64458107
>>64458353
Actually that one is a bad example, I think that one actually does use tracking for the face. But there are a bunch like it that don't, so you probably get my point.

>> No.64458551

how much power will Vshojo have now?

>> No.64458562

>>64452797
but it isn't and you're a fucking retard that doesn't understand what the terms mean

>> No.64458918

>>64458551
I don't even want to think about those fuckers right now.

>> No.64459074

>>64458551
The only thing that actually changes for Vshojo is Froot drawing nudes

>> No.64459334

I wonder if mastercard and co will try and pull out of twitch because of this like they did with onlyfans

>> No.64459419

>>64458073
I disagree, casual nudity is hot as fuck. Just seeing a cute vtuber talking while naked at the corner of the screen feels really nice.

>> No.64459570

>>64459074
Mel can stream with a naked live2d animation as long as it doesn't have tracking.

>> No.64459751

>>64450366
No, it's because google want to wage war against chatgpt and now they need to increase youtube revenue to fund their billion dollar internet warmachine.

>> No.64459811

>>64450475
So, they now can put on body paint and doing striptease like a whore on a pole?

>> No.64459864

>>64449605
So drawing dicks is allowed?

>> No.64460012

>>64449605
This one rule alone is about to kill the entire pomf.tv population kek

>> No.64460205

>>64458353
>Nothing in the new rules suggests it wouldn't be allowed.
Nigga, just read the rules. Sex and masturbation is still TOS.

>> No.64460312

>>64460205
>Sex and masturbation
Reread my post.

>> No.64460403

>>64460312
You can literally see her masturbating with a huge ass dildo, what's your point?

>> No.64460472

>>64458551
>No Korean Vtubers
>More lewd allowed
Two stones in the infinity gauntlet

>> No.64460771

>>64460403
I'm saying masturbation is only banned by the TOS when the STREAMER is doing it. In other words, as long as that live2d has no tracking, nothing about it is against the new TOS.

And even if that were true, it doesn't change the fact that vtubers can still show full nudity, as long as its not tracked and they don't show sex/masturbation. Nothing in the new TOS says they can't do that.

>> No.64460862

Give me some vtubers taking advantage of the new rules

>> No.64460922

>>64460862
Here you go bro
https://www.twitch.tv/alucardaliceforsubstar

>> No.64460951

>>64460922
based

>> No.64461082

>>64460771
>I'm saying masturbation is only banned by the TOS when the STREAMER is doing it.
Just read the fucking rules man, it's only a click away.
I agree with your second statement but still, read nigga, read.

>> No.64461108

>>64460922
Are there any with big tits taking advantage of it?

>> No.64461198

>>64461108
I mean, she's got the vagina out and everything. Most probably won't go that far.

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MILKY SHOW YOUR FAT MILKERS ON STREAM

>> No.64461206

>>64461108
Hasn't brought it up yet but I fully expect this one to since she has a nude live2d
https://twitter.com/TaraKaminarito

>> No.64461528

>>64461206
>scroll down
>https://twitter.com/TaraKaminarito/status/1731456207964004802
oh neat
cute model too, might take a look later

>> No.64461575

>>64458353
"Live2D animation that isn't using tracking" is just porn, that's called regular porn. That isn't allowed. You need to read ALL the rules, not just the new section.

>> No.64461692

>>64461206
Nudity on Live2D is still against TOS. The full TOS specifically says Vtubers follow the same attire rules as normal streamer. What she's doing is TOS and she'll probably catch a ban if people report her, but it's an alt so who really cares.

>> No.64461881

>>64461575
>is just porn
Except if i theres no sex or masturbation its just nudity and thats EXPLICITLY SAID to be allowed.

>> No.64461944

I went to pools and hot tubs to check these changes out and I literally saw a woman's pubes.

>> No.64461950

>>64461692
>Nudity on Live2D is still against TOS. The full TOS specifically says Vtubers follow the same attire rules as normal streamer.
Only if they use tracking. If you don't use tracking that rule doesn't apply.

>> No.64461980

>>64461881
you need to read the whole thing man, not just the new sections you like. Nudity is allowed for drawing, modeling, etc. if you are creating the art. please, please don't be this stupid on purpose.

>> No.64462076

>>64461950
If you don't use tracking and you just have a looping gif of a nude girl even if she isn't masturbating, that means you're just playing porn. Porn is against TOS. The creation of nude art is what's allowed, not a looping porn gif

>> No.64462211

>>64461980
>>64462076
The rule doesn't say anything at all about it ONLY being allowed for artists, it just says two things
>fictional drawn nudity is allowed
>nudity from streamers using tracked avatars is not
Nothing about a looping gif of a nude girl breaks these rules at all whatsoever. In fact its explicitly said to be allowed. You're taking an example statement about how "twitch recognizes there are artists here" and applying it as if its a rule. The rule says nothing other that fictional nudity is allowed and tracked avatar nudity is not.

>> No.64462316

I want someone who is really good at drawing hyper realistic things to just draw a giant penis and see how long it takes for them to get banned.

>> No.64462339

nothing ever changes

>> No.64462358

>>64462316
so youre saying youre a fag

>> No.64462389

>>64462358
No, I just think that the new rules are retarded

>> No.64462433

>>64462316
>>64452791

>> No.64462516

>>64461944
>check the category because of this
>top streamer has a giant baguette plushie
kek

>> No.64462558

>>64462433
I said hyper realistic not gay furry penis

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>>64449526

>> No.64462797
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>>64450366
>and tech companies are getting assfucked

Nvidia and AMD are making record profits. Should've invested in AI.

>> No.64462803

>>64452473
Not true, it's Hiro trying to make them advertiser friendly.

>> No.64462854

>>64461199
she apparently is only just now hearing about it, cross your fingers

>> No.64463207

>this entire start of the game
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bLlPUnLAeJ8

>> No.64463213

>>64450964
It literally does though moron.

>> No.64463341

>>64462211
went to go read what people why people were saying you're wrong and it seems like there's a weird contradictory area that needs to be covered because the rules also say

>Users are prohibited from broadcasting, uploading, soliciting, offering, and linking to pornographic content.

but also

>Content with a focus on fictionalized (drawn, animated, or sculpted) sexual body parts regardless of gender (such as doing nude figure drawing) is allowed with a Sexual Themes Label

It makes me think the intent is simply for artists to be able to draw nudes but they were too stupid to specify it the same way they flubbed "augmented reality or mocapped avatars" when a png vtuber wouldn't be affected by the attire rules for vtubers. I think it's just a lack of foresight on their part and will likely be fixed once it's abused because these both feel directly in conflict at least as written.

>> No.64463347

Come on Snuffy BF hurry up with the plapping i need to watch her, atleast leave the mic on.

>> No.64463447

>>64463347
guess she is making it up to her parents for missing the thanksgiving dinner.

>> No.64463517

>>64463341
Yes, its a loophole, but it exists nonetheless. In fact, there's TWO loopholes:
>>64459521
This vtuber is currently exploiting the "bodypaint" rule to stream nude. Will she get away with it? Probably not, but I expect these loopholes will be patched up soon.

>> No.64463701

>>64463517
The bodypaint rule requires the nipples and genitals to be covered doesn't it? That's not a loophole she just didn't read it.

>Buttocks and genitals must also be fully covered by opaque attire.

It's why girls wear pasties.

>> No.64463832

>>64463701
It does, but I didn't realize that loophole was a thing until I saw her tags.

>> No.64463910

>>64456188
"female presenting" just means "looks female." It's to include people and vtubers that blatantly look like women from claiming "actually I'm a guy so it's okay"

>> No.64463929

>>64463832
It's not a loophole if the rules literally say "You need to cover up your nipples with opaque material" and hers are visible.

>> No.64464101

>>64463929
Well it kind of still is because showing your breasts with only pasties on isn't allowed UNLESS you're doing bodypaint.

>> No.64464106

>>64460922
oh shit, lolis are okay then? NOW I will watch twitch streams

>> No.64464222

>>64464101
That's not a loophole it's a contextual exception written very clearly in the rule and has been there for a while, along with bikinis.

>> No.64464323

>>64464222
The vtuber bikini loophole is honestly the dumbest thing in the Twitch TOS

>> No.64464336

holy fuck that asianbunny stream
thank you based Dan Clancy

>> No.64464445

>>64451060
retard didn't even read the OP >>64449526
> Previously prohibited but now Allowed With Label

>> No.64464526

>>64452842
the new CEO seems like a guy with a good head on his shoulders, so it might make cunnychuubas mainstream (and make twitchfags seethe in the process)

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>>64449526
>>64449605
Based as fuck

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>>64449526
twitch is tired of pretending they are not a softcore porn site i see

>> No.64464683

>>64454218
> contradictory
see first line you absolute mongoloids >>64449605
fucking hell are there actually people in here that don't have the attention span to read more than one fucking sentence before their eyes glaze over and they start foaming at the mouth?

>> No.64464864

>>64464683
>fucking hell are there actually people in here that don't have the attention span to read more than one fucking sentence before their eyes glaze over and they start foaming at the mouth?

first day in vt?

>> No.64464874

this is brought on in part because the biggest streamers on Twitch have been promoting onlyfans with the WoW guild onlyfangs. now all the guild members who were stealing twitch revenue through other sites can sell their bodies on twitch first and foremost

>> No.64464980 [DELETED] 

I imagine my oshi start getting more and more hate to the point people start figuring out where he lives. They start small, door ditching or TPing his home. The acts then begin to escalate; delivering tons of orders from Uber Eats and they foot the bill to him, bricks are starting to be thrown through his windows. It has gotten so bad now to the point his friends and family members don’t want to associate with him because they don’t want the risk of the same actions being happened to him. He begs the police to do something but unfortunately there are too many suspects to deduct and can’t do much besides for him to wait for more answers.

He goes through a downward spiral, constantly on edge and praying almost the entire night, hoping no one kills him while he sleeps. Trying to stay sane and optimistic by giving himself a pep-talk from his reflection from his bathroom mirror. But even then, his thoughts soon become delusions and his reflection now tells him directly that he is nothing and to give up.

It finally ends when he turned in his form for resignation after weeks of consistent mental torture. In the end when he returns home, he finds a note pinned to his door with a single candy, bubble sticker. He reads it and. . . it was absolutely true. After a few minutes of him having a blank expression, he slits his throat with a broken glass shard he found on the ground after the multiple incidents with his damaged windows. What did the note say?

“I can’t believe no one even cared that you left!”

>> No.64465099
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https://www.twitch.tv/alucardaliceforsubstar
Well nevermind the loophole, she's full on naked now.

>> No.64465202

>>64465099
I can picture the dextero tweets

>> No.64465364

>>64451156
numbermonkeys are dumb as hell

>> No.64465401

>>64465099
>flashes cunny for a few seconds too
Yeah she's pretty based.

>> No.64465404

>>64465099
no

>> No.64465579

>>64465099
I have been coming in every now and then waiting to see if I can catch a live ban. Two and a half hours and still nothing.

>> No.64465678

>>64465099
why does she have better tracking than most nijis

>> No.64465776

>>64465099
Yeah I'm thinking based, I hope she gains some traction out of this

>> No.64465779

>>64450570
>Cover your nipples
All they did was add blue balling.

>> No.64466002

>>64465099
>>64465515

>> No.64466146

>>64452473
>All boards should be NSFW.
>/a/,/co/,/jp/,/vt/,/v/(and related boards),etc will be filled to the brim with loli/shota stuff
>boards like /tv/ will do the same with actual cp
anon?

>> No.64466193

>>64466146
>>boards like /tv/ will do the same with actual cp
Anon... literally what is stopping them now? CP is straight up illegal.

>> No.64466224

>>64466146
alright you sold me

>> No.64466352

Another one testing the rules, showing bare tits/nudity artwork but not the model
Its a guy though.
https://www.twitch.tv/marina

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>>64451156
>that fucking spike when COVID begun
jesus, this is fuel for /pol/schizos

>> No.64466388

>>64449526
depends how good this content will be

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>>64466352
>a guy named marina

>> No.64466559

>>64466352
First thing I saw when I opened the stream was the model's tits jiggling and showing nipples, I'd rather stick with Alice's stream though

>> No.64466635

>>64449960
>holo mention out of nowhere
rent free

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>>64454069
So could you technically make a fully naked AI vtuber like Neuro-Sama as long as you don't use real-life movement data to create the animations?

>> No.64466812

>>64466761
and you could stream yourself making her model too.

>> No.64466911

Actually looking at the current live vtuber streams, it seems like a bunch of people are absolutely pushing this new TOS and testing it out. So yeah, either lewdtubing on twitch is allowed now, or they're gonna drop the hammer and rewrite the rules to protect their precious fleshstreamers real soon.

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>>64466761
I mean, you can already be naked, you just can't show anything

>> No.64467018

>>64466911
Like who?

>> No.64467048

>>64460862
Tiddy art
https://www.twitch.tv/mayavtuber

>> No.64467078

>>64466761
>neuro-sama but naked is perfectly in line with the new twitch rules
I really like whatever caused this change

>> No.64467284

>>64467048
Man is it weird seeing full on tits and vag fullscreen'd on Twitch.

>> No.64467327

Too bad I still won't watch her irrelevant twitch sluts

>> No.64467414

I give it a week before the advertisers threaten to pull out because they don't want to be associated with a website that went full porn

>> No.64467472

More proof women ruin everything over time. Remember when they tried to fight so hard to just have low cut tops? Slippery slope is now their breasts they are oiling up for preteen money and click over to their porn sites.

>> No.64467544

>>64467472
Yeah, they're pretty shameless.

>> No.64467702

>>64465678
Holos and Nijis have the worst rigging in the vtuber market.

>> No.64467770

>>64466371
yep, covid was invented so youtube could stop bleeding money, funny thing is, nobody actually knows that it happened, as they were blindly following orders from the almighty algorithm that all google employees must interact with atleast twice a day for 30 minutes a session

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>>64449526
CASHING IN ON THE ETHOTS

>> No.64467860

>>64467414
PewDiePie caused the adpocalypse by saying nigger
If nothing happens here, the whores have truly won and we will eventually see a live fisting, impregnation, or some other insane shit.

>> No.64467938

>>64467791
yeah until mastercard backs out of twitch

>> No.64467988

>>64467938
Na, it's not on the homepage. User consent blah blah blah. The tiimmmes they are a changin

>> No.64468110

>every indie is just gonna go topless and afk
>coomers will still donate

>> No.64468207

>>64468110
The Gura experience

>> No.64468312

>>64465099
She was shadowbanned

>> No.64468405

>>64467791
They carring twitch hard right now.

>> No.64468463

>>64467860
ask /asmr/ sometime about the live impregnation chuuba we've already witnessed. She gave birth recently.

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>>64468207

>> No.64468519

Let's get real for a sec no one want to watch these twitch girl streamers without T&A.

>> No.64468614

>>64467414
Why would they? Twitter has always allowed full porn but advertisers were fine until Elon said let's have more free speech.

>> No.64468734

Another artist.
https://www.twitch.tv/leaczolotl

>> No.64468852

>>64465579
Reporting is surprisingly uncommon even for people breaking the rules and they've probably got an influx of them to deal with now. She was 100% breaking the rules with the "body paint" since her areolas weren't covered but unless it's actually reported enough and in the moderation queue nothing will come of it. It's her alt so if you really want to see something happen report it but otherwise they tend to not go hunting for people to ban

>> No.64468886

>>64468463
That was on fantia. I'm talking someone getting dicked down on shitch. Not trying to hide it or pretend. Just giving in and enjoying it.

>> No.64469536

>>64468734
>your childrens' gaming platform is now chaturbate
>but how does this affect you personally

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>>64449526
Time for our menhera to rise

>> No.64469709

>>64469577
> For example, you may not show, offer, or promote [content warning]:

Explicit, simulated, fictional, or implied sex or masturbation. This includes oral, anal, and vaginal sex, touching of genitals in self or mutual masturbation, or prolonged audio that implies sex/masturbation/orgasm.

We're about to see a mass exodus of whores followed by a bunch of them complaining due to not reading the TOS.

>> No.64469771

>>64469577
Where's the audio?

>> No.64469952

>>64469709
Given enough time they will probably let up on these rules.

>> No.64469988

>>64469952
Doubt it

>> No.64470076

>>64449526
Doesn’t this just mean you can draw hentai on stream and not much else?

>> No.64470114

coomers stay winning, i guess

>> No.64470181

>>64470076
The rules technically don't restrict it to drawing hentai, but having it (minus masturbation/sex acts) on stream. You can basically have a bunch of porn on your stream despite it contradicting the rule that says "no porn". I imagine they'll clarify it means actively drawing it pretty soon though, I keep seeing streams with porn plastered on the side like those zoomer subway surfer videos

>> No.64470231

>>64468614
Twitter is like the one exception

>> No.64470336

>>64470076
From what I can gather, the situation just comes from them not including the "Attire" rules in the update post (since they didn't change) which left people confused as to whether vtuber models count as art. Then it was spurred on by people who interpreted it liberally because they wanted to see their oshi's tits or wanted to see Twitch devolve, or both.

>> No.64470664

>>64469536
>your childrens
Not seeing how that effects a soul in this board.

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>>64454069
that standard outline is outdated now, twitch does allow fleshtubers to be partially nude and emphasise their tits and buttocks now
even strip teases are fair game now for 3dpd

>> No.64470762

>>64469536
Any parent not monitoring this already has kids that have seen worse.

>> No.64471530

I can already see how this will going, your oshi doing something pretty slutty just for the whole mood to be killed thanks to some superchat saying something pretty cringe

>> No.64471578

>>64470679
The attire rule still specify what you can and can't wear, with this addition of "strip dancing" you're basically still stripping into clothes that cover the same things you had to cover to begin with. The closest you can get to real stripping or nudity on camera is stripping from clothing into a bikini while in the hot tub category

>> No.64471605

>>64471530
Sounds hilarious, a new breed of painfully cringe simps will be born from this.

>> No.64472035

The Internet is fucking retarded and gay, I hate this timeline.

>> No.64472108

>>64472035
Only because it's owned by megacorps now.

>> No.64472294

>>64450366
the chinkflu psyop has been a success it seems

>> No.64472410

>>64449680
always has been

>> No.64472524

This will hurt indies more than corpos with idol culture.
Not all want to go the explicit content route, and now have to compete with them.

>> No.64472731

>>64472524
The biggest streamers have always been relatively SFW ones. Far more people are looking for an entertainer rather than the coom of the week and once the views for it die down (as they always do for these girls) we'll see where things lie. Vtubers beat out the top women on Twitch already without pushing porn, I don't see why this is any different

>> No.64472915

>>64467860
Didn't the adpocalypse started because some journalist found out that youtube played BBC's ad on ISIS video? That article made BBC and other advertisers pull out of youtube.

>> No.64473313

>>64449526
twitch thots be wild with these new rules i have seen more bush in the last 10 mins looking at twitch than i have all day when looking out the window at my backyard twitch straight up went full mask off lmfao

>> No.64473646

>>64454126
Porn being banned in korea is how korea became king of softcore

>> No.64473678

>>64468312
>gets shadowbanned
>gets unshadowbanned
>then gets shadowbanned again
lmao I guess some seething femanon spammed reports on her

>> No.64473717

>>64473678
Seething fleshtubers getting run out of business.

>> No.64474031

Another one is showing her naked model on stream.
https://www.twitch.tv/fennzey

>> No.64474104

>>64474031
>her

>> No.64474403

I don't think the actually relevant, successful chuubas using this for some cheap views realize it will completely fuck up their chance with sponsorships which is where the real money is.

>> No.64474502

>>64474403
At the very least people don't have to worry about some overzealous nigger mod banning them because they got some ass or extra tit skin in front of the camera.

>> No.64475200

>>64465678
Holonigs and nijimonkeys are way behind in terms of models

>> No.64475286

>>64450366
>Youtube never made a profit and now they are trying to get past adblock to get around that.
You're parroting information which is nearly a decade out of date. Youtube has been making good money for several years now.

>> No.64475469

>>64474031
Shes really talking shit while abusing the art tag

>> No.64475511

>>64474031
The model looks okay but the nudity looks bad. It was clearly tacked on as an afterthought.

>> No.64475973

>>64472524
You will see which are the real ones and which will ride the nude model fad, which nothing wrong with that, but I could imagine it would change content of some, drastically

>> No.64477597

this one is actually talented
https://www.twitch.tv/canniny

>> No.64477644

>>64449944
>fictionalized (drawn)
I think they already defined that drawings aren't real. Either way, they have no real say. All the TOS is controlled by payment providers, and they'll ban out of caution like they always do.

>> No.64477722

>>64477597
3 sets of honkers on one screen

>> No.64477806

>>64477597
It is a nice style.

>> No.64477842

>>64466761
based intelligent anon

>> No.64478015

>>64477597
HAHAHA

NIPPLES ON TWITCH!!!

HEHEHEHE

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