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64305469 No.64305469 [Reply] [Original]

I don't like this timeline I want my cute dorky gyaru wife back...

>> No.64305593

She isn't that much damaged but if you want to keep supporting her you at least need to accept that she will keep homocollabing like nothing.

I will continue to watch her but won't support her as an oshi.

>> No.64305646

>>64305469
It's over, bro. Just treat yourself with respect and move to greener pastures.

>> No.64305745

Just move on bro. It's gonna be a regular thing from now on.

>> No.64305774

>>64305469
Which other girls did you make this same post about in the past at the smallest drama?

>> No.64305827

>>64305646
We are. It's just hard to move on so soon. She convinced us she was more otaku with the outer shell of a gyaru. We were played. What makes it worse is she was actually climbing in popularity kind of like Koyori during her early days once the Chloe and Laplus hype died down. Why do women have to be so fucking retarded and not think long-term about their actions and ruin a good thing they've worked hard to build? ENs do it all the time...

>> No.64305977

>>64305827
She did think about the long term
>Do whatever you want, even if your paypigs don't like it
>Do asmr to appease them and they return
>????????
>Profit

>> No.64305989

>>64305469
You were never a fan

>> No.64306027

>>64305469
OP may or may not be baiting but I want every actual unicorn to understand that getting caught up in debut hype will lead you to ruin if you want to make a new girl your oshi wait at least half a year ideally a year

>> No.64306089

>>64305827
Probably she was convinced by Regloss shit producers. It's like Nene forced to join Holizontal trash by the shit management. Ririka was actually talking about it like she was making the decision with her mane on the last Holo game stream.

>> No.64306104

>>64305827
It was obvious that ReGloss was going to be handled differently and even if the initial pitch failed miserably with hlztnl happening right before their announcement, the interactions with the homos pre-debut and the 3-4 streams dedicated to explaining why the fuck they're a new branch that never gave a direct, non-corpo answer Cover rarely refuses to give up, for better or for worse, and in this case you can certainly bet this decision was 100% influenced by management tho that doesn't take away her blame for the dumb shit she said to reassure her fans who were against her playing on the eceleb leeching server. In any case be glad that it happened sooner rather than later so you can move on faste .

>>64305989
It's been 3 months since ReGloss debuted and all their fanbases are still extremely volatile and so no one became a "true fan" of them yet.

>> No.64306156
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64306156

>>64305827
Except Koyori was looking for long-term hololive hakooshi popularity and not just some ephemeral streamer bullshit

>> No.64306160

She drew a pretty clear line, she'll go on things like VCR or garibenger for the sake of growing her audience, but she's not going to go beyond friendly but impersonal conversation and jokes with any guys. This is actually pretty obvious already even in just two streams, whenever she's talked with any of guys it's always focused around a particular goal, and once she achieves that goal she leaves them behind and goes back off to do her own thing. The only connection with a sign of lasting engagement so far is starting a pizzeria with another girl vtuber.

The problem, of course, is that there's different levels to unicorns, including a level to which making a joke at a guy or laughing at a guy's jokes is tantamount to having sex while chat is forced to watch. This strict definition of unicorn is what people here mostly seem to have in mind, and if that's the definition you want to use, then yeah, she probably isn't for you. But her line in the sand is that no matter what, even if she does talk with a guy, she's not for that guy, she's for her audience, and no one else.

Even this much maligned line
> Rather than saying "I love you" to girls who don't know males and never interact with males, surely it's a lot better when she knows a variety of guys, but only loves YOU right?
is, if you actually read the sentence instead of jumping to conclusions, not just harmless but affectionate. She's not using the biblical sense of know, she's just saying she's aware of their existence. (Also, I disagree with translating 色々 as "a bunch", it's more about the variety of types of guys, not the quantity of them). She's saying that it's not that she loves her audience because she has no other options, it's that she is aware of other options but will never be interested in them and will always pick her chat instead. And if that's still over your personal line, that's perfectly reasonable, everyone's line is different places.

The dumb thing though is the people that immediately jump to some sort of NTR scenario where "knows a variety of guys but loves you" is read as "has an orgy with dozens of guys while you're tied to the cuck chair being fed scraps of affection". And if that were just comedic hyperbole, that would be one thing, but an awful lot of people seem to be just making up new sentences to get genuinely mad at.

>> No.64306204

>>64305469
she's the same.

>> No.64306221
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64306221

For how little interest there was on the board for Regloss as whole, much less the individual members, there sure are a whole lot of catalogue threads suddenly...

https://archive.palanq.win/vt/search/subject/regloss/type/op/
>>64070596
>>63465061
>>61761447

They could barely even keep up a general for the whole branch. Their biggest thread in the past month had a whopping 11(!) posts, and suddenly Ririka gets like 10 threads in day? Looks to me like the false flaggers are baiting for fish that aren't there.

>> No.64306235

>>64305469
It's hard to feel sympathy for retards who support girls that have been open about their intentions from the start.

>> No.64306248

>>64305827
>>64305977
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QnMvAZJr2NU

>> No.64306344

>>64305977
The ASMR would've worked a little if she didn't fucking mention it the way she did, as if it's just a tool. Now it just looks so insulting and degrading. The thing I respect about Choco is whe was an open whore from day 1. She never did GFE and if she did, it was ironic and just to tease for the coom. Everyone was (and still is) on the same page with her which is why she still has a lot of members. Choco has never insulted her fans. What Ririka did in of itself isn't that bad, but in context of how she has behaved since the beginning it really stings and was unnecessary. Almost like the whole thing was a waste of time. She didn't need this normalfag fps popularity boost like Aki did, she was doing fine.

>> No.64306346

>>64306160
I want you to know I read your effortpost and mostly agree, even if this is a shitty bait thread. I still think she should have skipped this though, a TV appearance with a male host, which she has done is fine but this is just male vtuber leeches.

>> No.64306389

>>64306160
>garibenger
Even Miko appeared there so comparing the two is extremely dishonest. Also regardless of what she's doing in the server this whole situation is about a portion of her fans not being interested in her doing this. Yeah, some will sperg out like schizos but this is no different than people who don't want their oshis playing nu-fps slot like Apex or Valorant and then dedicating a entire week to that garbage because they were invited to a tournament, tho this is arguably worse because I believe the server will last for almost a whole month so those who don't give a shit about GTA will have to wait what's almost a fourth of her career before she goes back to her standard schedule.

>> No.64306504

>>64306344
>>64305593
>>64305646
>>64305745
>>64305827
>>64306089
>>64306104
You don't speak Japanese and you don't watch Ririka. You've been fed a drama narrative that you're parroting.

>> No.64306549

>>64306504
There's always someone like you that turns up in these kinds of threads, after these kinds of yabs. You're the biggest copers and/or cucks.

>> No.64306643

>>64306504
Hope she sees this anon

>> No.64306770

>>64306346
And I think that's perfectly reasonable. I'm actually not particularly interested in the streams myself, I just find some of the most extreme takes on it pretty silly. For what it's worth, it does say a lot about her intentions that she'd clearly much rather spend time and build connections with a 3view female vtuber than any of the guys with much bigger audiences.

>> No.64306954

>>64306643
>>64306549
He's right, whenever Ririka streamed before this vcr shit, there were only around 3 people talking about her stream. You fags don't watch her, you're here to salivate over some hyped up drama

>> No.64307024

>>64306954
We call those people dramatrannies. They are not men, and should be looked down on even by the women who inhabit the board.

>> No.64307042

>>64306504
this. joining a normalfag streamer server full of male fleshbags isn't even a yab for Japanese holomems at this point.

>> No.64307066

>>64306954
I swear niggers like you get a kick out of feeling like you're the only people that watch your JPs. Nearly every JP general has obnoxious faggots like you convinced it's only you who watches them. Ririka almost always has an active translator and I've watched the shit out of her from roughly 2 weeks in. Not every stream and VOD, but about 75% of her content, and I'm sure other anons here have, too. I ignored her at first and it was actually an anon that made me realize I judged her too harshly at first so I gave her another shot.

>> No.64307178

>>64305469
People like you make me glad I'm a guy, thanks

>> No.64307180

>>64306954
>catalog not shitting on your oshi is a bad thing

>> No.64307195

>>64306770
why do you ignore how she broke trust? she was selling herself as a gamer otaku, but gave up on it for numbers. first it was the cooking spam, then vertical streams that she said she wouldn't spam and did anyway, now it's this while laughing at her own fans. gta with streamers couldn't be more incompatible with the otaku gamer introvert image she sold
i don't hate her, but she did everything to lose trust. eop idiots here say pekora and koyori chase numbers, but they never put them over their fans as she did

>> No.64307209

>>64306770
There are much better ways to do that and they don't involve joining a server with dozens of people that you're better off not interacting with on your fourth month after debut.

>> No.64307216

>>64305469
Your fault for watching the fake 7th gen.

>> No.64307309

>>64307195
She was fucking drunk. Why does everyone keep ignoring this? The only thing you should get mad at is the fact that she wasn’t careful and made those remarks while drunk. She’s watching her comment section even NOW despite being tired as hell reading what fans (and falseflagging antis) are saying
Also
>vertical streams
What the fuck are you talking about, this feature hasn’t even been out that long. Who is mad about that? Why? EVERYONE is trying out this new feature. It’s like getting mad at the girls for trying out spaces when those were a thing. Get over yourself.

>> No.64307322

>>64307066
Keep telling yourself that

>> No.64307327

>>64307066
if there's so many of you fags, why did you keep letting /rgg/ die??

>> No.64307335

>>64305469
She's still there, just stop being such a faggot.

>> No.64307342

>>64307195
There is like 2 vertical streams only.....

>> No.64307359

Ran out of fuel for your shiori (3 months and counting) bait threads? Nobody replying to your shitty gura threads?
Being a anti used to mean something

>> No.64307389

>>64305469
you should be happy at least she didn't pull an ame/kronii... yet

>> No.64307431

>>64305469
Gyarus are bitches
Bitches ain't shit but hoes and tricks

What did you think was gonna happen

>> No.64307462

>>64306389
miko used to collab with males regularly. she stopped doing it when the idol route started to give her bigger numbers.

>> No.64307534

>>64305469
Sorry OP, she belongs to the streets now. The streets of VCR GTA.

>> No.64307540

Reminder that these threads are made by nijiniggers attempting to divide holofans

>> No.64307602

>>64305469
She always seemed suspect, even after debut. Glad you found your place OP.

>> No.64307660

>>64307309
people actually believe hololive members get drunk during those streams...

>> No.64308000

>>64306160
>it's that she is aware of other options but will never be interested in them and will always pick her chat instead
Zero awareness there. It probably evokes a ton of "I liked a girl, but she picked a giga chad" from her audience. Career ruined.

>> No.64308046

>>64307327
You can watch a vtuber without contributing to her general, you realize that right? Generals are overrated. It's just the same anons chatting the same shit and posting the same images and if it's slow, it's effort to keep them alive from catalog bait. Sometimes they can be fun during streams but when it's a shared general it becomes noise. I'm starting to think the obnoxious anons that convince themselves it's only them who watches their JP oshi are those that live in their generals, so if they don't recognize the writing style outside of it from an anon claiming they also watch her, they assume it's some lying schizo.

>> No.64308287

>>64305469
I blame yagoo and a chan for debuted her in stupidass branch, if she's in JP7 she wont resort to this gayass homo eceleb collab slop

>> No.64308376

>>64305469
>people here suddenly all watch ReGLOSS
LOL you're killing me. You guys were avoiding them with a 10 foot pole, and not even discretely. What happened to "I'm not watching them because they weren't branded JP7"?

>> No.64308563

>>64308376
Nijifags are the only "people" that dont consider them jp7 for whatever retarded reason
Nobody gives a shit what they think

>> No.64308577

>>64305469
Now we know why Regloss wasn't accepted as JP7.

>> No.64308644

Could I get a QRD? I don't watch ReGloss

>> No.64308645

>>64306248
Video starts at 2:13.

>> No.64308772

>>64306504
She won't fuck you.

>> No.64308856

>>64308772
Ironic thing to post when you're mentally crippled by a male collab. She was never going to fuck, date or know you exist.

>> No.64308873

>>64305469
Haha you fell for the good gyaru act

>> No.64308903

>>64308287
Laplus is on the server and she's part of the Japanese flagship gen. Lui and Chloe took part in that FPS thing with Holostars too.

>> No.64309136

>>64308376
>You guys were avoiding them with a 10 foot pole,
People were avoiding them because their redebut shilling and interactions seemed to indicate they may homocollab. And would you look at that, those people were vindicated, at least for 2 out of 5 members so far. There's so much outrage about Ririka's comments specifically, because she was helping push that preconception away and getting unicorns to watch her, before she fumbled.

>> No.64309390

>>64308376
You are dumb if you believed that. /vt/ was avoiding them because they dont know nipponese.
Anything JP after gen 5 wont get much discussion here. There's barely any genuine JP discussion here to begin with

>> No.64309442

Ririka bros this is a CODE RED situation, Luca Kaneshiro has been spotted on the server!

>> No.64310273

>>64308903
>Lui and Chloe
Yeah, an one time thing that had zero interaction with the homos outside of the game itself and that both Lui and Nene (who was part of the previous one) revealed to have been asked insistently by management to do it, with IRyS straight up saying that she was invited almost at the last minute (and also making the beggars seethe by saying it was a collab with the JP girls). The whole hlzntl bullshit was so hated by pretty much everyone that it's been months since the last activity on it's Twitter account and there's a good chance that Cover just canned the whole thing.

>> No.64310954

>>64305827
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TSKizLRFbTo&list=RDPfw0pj7NeCQ&index=3

>> No.64311272

>>64305989
True
>>64306027
Cope fagtron

>> No.64311419

>>64306248

Wow so the entirety of mainland china and probably the rest of asia is women who would have thought? This is actual, unironic incel shit lol

>> No.64311458

What happened? Overnight yab?

>> No.64311526

>>64311458
I don't know. I'm seeing threads about her and am just parroting the points.
I don't even watch Rikira.

>> No.64311847

>>64311419
>incel shit
lol the comments are full of married guys talking about how this applies to their wives.

>> No.64311894

>>64305469
reminder that male hand in op pic is not yours...

>> No.64311990

>>64309390
If you have the blue dorito then EOPs are going to at least pretend to be a fan with their dead sub and by parroting one meme that sticks. The most ReGLOSS has is Raden being acknowledged for her smoking habits.

>> No.64312031

>>64311847

Yes, if you cast a net wide enough some people will undoubtedly be (>that's literally me) just like horoscopes. Speaks more about the power dynamic in the relationship than anything else

>> No.64312727

>>64305827
Jesus christ you're such a fucking loser. Go outside and do something with your miserable life.

>> No.64312967

>>64312727
>t. loser faggot

>> No.64313037

Imagine being a JPfan and still acting superior. Your oshi will always have a chance to collab with male e celeb shit with more events to come. It's time to embrace unity, Nobody will do GFEshit anymore after what happened to Rushia

>> No.64314496

>>64313037
>It's time to embrace unity
I'd rather not have Hololive becoming nijislop 2.0.

>> No.64314686

>>64306156
Question
is Ririka a HAG or not?

>> No.64314795

>>64314686
Maybe a Japanese (IE 25) Hag at best but no way she's 30+

>> No.64314889

>>64306504
They can’t help themselves, if your oshi was a NijiEN you’d be grasping at straws too

>> No.64319605

>>64305469
she's not yours anymore

>> No.64319868

>>64307309
nta, but I think getting drunk on stream is worse than colabing with males.

>> No.64320167

>>64307660
It's so baffling why people think they'd risk everything. I'm sure they drink and get a bit tipsy and fuzzy, only to then exaggerate their speech and actions, but never drunk. Their manager would literally end the stream if that were the case. Bunch of fucking morons defending these stupid whores and their shitty actions.

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>>64306504
Oh yeah?

>> No.64320627 [DELETED] 

>>64306549
>yabs
thing a huge swath of vtubers regularly do is a yab, only on /vt/

>> No.64321588

>>64306160
Thanks for that, made me feel better about the situation. I didn't really care about the server in itself, more how she reacted on the zatsu stream.
I'll just chalk that up to alcohol, and maybe I'll check out the GTA streams.

>> No.64321802

>>64306504
/thread

>> No.64321926

>>64320627
I like the way you forgot what kind of content she's made since she debuted. If you asked /vt/ only last week who would collab with a male first, Ririka or Shiori, most people still would've placed their bets on Shiori. I'm comparing them because they're both runts that fucked up at the start with red flags and leaned into GFE.

>> No.64321951

Used to be the only Regloss I watched, now I won't bother. No skin off my back though, she's only been there for three months and there's a lot of vtubers in the sea.
I hate VCR and ecelebs with a violent passion and would even have prefered a regular homo collabs. Good luck chasing numbers, I guess.
It's weird how there's been so much more threads and posts about this today compared to when the "yab" actually happened. Seems very organic as usual.

>> No.64323455

>>64307195
>incompatible with the otaku gamer introvert image she sold
She never sold that image. You are just projecting what catalog tell you. She was trying to jump on the other Re_Gloss girls when they go out to a public bath. The introverted girl in the generation is Raden and maybe Kanade.

>> No.64324183 [DELETED] 

>>64321926
>what kind of content she's made since she debuted
Literally anything other than an outright promise to never speak to a male on stream makes this not a yab

>> No.64325139

>>64306504
yes, i am completely misunderstanding the stream where she's playing gta with males because i'm not jp literate. right.

>> No.64325279

>>64321926
How did Ririka fucked up at the start? I don't remember, just because she has gyaru model?

>> No.64325369

>>64323455
business yuri.

>> No.64325737

>>64325279
To be fair it wasn't just her, but she was interacting a lot with the JP stars on twitter. They were all forced to do it. It looked forced because after debuting, they all went CGDCT and in Ririka's case, GFE. Although sex, Ririka went hard with fetish art. So you had a gyaru model with a woman that commisioned bondage art during debut time, interacting with males on twitter and she had a very outgoing loud personality like a male collaber would. Kind of a red flag combo...however, once most of her genmates took off in popularity, leaving her an AO as the resident runts, she had to find a niche to fill. She started 'opening up' and tried to convince everyone she's just a soft otaku nerd. Her lunch streams were great and got increasingly popular as time went on. She streamed like crazy. Very sweet GFE-like interactions with her fans on twitter. Used her English skills to branch out and collab with multiple ENs and interact with EOPs in chat. Her chat also had active translators making her streams easy to follow. She was the whole package and people like me shilled her /here/ because of it.

Then she had one recent stream where she (pretended) to be drunk and basically revealed who she really was. Now she's left with a fanbase that's either petty and seething (Me) or coping hard that she did nothing wrong (faggots above).

>> No.64325980

>>64325737
Totally not biased last part. But I forgot about whole homostars twitter interaction, you're right.
I don't watch her, because I'm not jap or know jap, but she seems really nice, and she is really the only one out of regloss, who's streams I watched multiple times, mostly when she was playing AC.
I honestly think she is a good girl, but male collabing is eh...ASMR remark was kind of shitty, but that was probably a jork. Don't think on it too much, few days later you either drop her, or think how much of a retard you were seething so much about this nothingburger, anon.
And I agree with her statement btw, I'd rather have a girl who acknowledges existence of men, but says she loves you, than someone like Kanata, who ignores existence of men, which is fine too, but first one feels more genuine, but I get that a lot of viewers are very jealous and possessive of their chuubas.

>> No.64326395

>>64325980
>I'd rather have a girl who acknowledges existence of men, but says she loves you, than someone like Kanata, who ignores existence of men
I get what she/you are saying, but most members of Hololive are like this even though most aren't even GFE. That's what makes this worse. She's actually GFE and still wants to hang around with males when trying to appeal to lonely schizo jealous men who throw A LOT of money at her for a very easy job. In the real world I don't feel this way towards women. Of course I expect them to interact or even hang out with guys and I wouldn't be with someone if I couldn't trust her doing that. But this is schizo virtual anime land, these women need to respect that if they want to get men throwing money at everything they do for basically nothing, they NEED to toe the line and know their audience. They can hang out and have fucking orgies with 20 men before and after streams for all I care, but on stream just don't be a whore for 3 hours a day yet they still can't do that and need to have their woman moment. It's insane.

>> No.64326452 [DELETED] 

>>64326395
>they NEED to toe the line and know their audience
Has literally anyone ever actually declined after this board's unicorns have declared her persona non grata though

>> No.64326484

>>64326452
yes

>> No.64326504

I wanna eat the creampies straight out of her pussy

>> No.64326619

>>64326504
I appreciate this mans honesty.

>> No.64326638

>>64326452
Kronii and Ame

>> No.64326846

>>64326395
Yeah, nah, I'd rather have her talk with men on stream in the game than having orgies off stream, because I enjoy a real girl that has anime avatar and bit of kayfabe rather than a whore actor playing pure and innocent anime girl. To each their own I guess.
I mean, if I don't like something I don't watch it, and If I see posts on 4chan shitting on it, I'll check it out for my own entertainment and sometimes share my view on it. I don't even watch vtubers anymore, outside of occasional random click on Marine/Pegor/whoever else or advent, I haven't got them recommended in a while though, outside of FWMC morning.

>> No.64326897

>>64305469
Once a Whore, Always a Whore
Once a Cheater, Always a Cheater.

>> No.64327166 [DELETED] 

>>64326846
>Yeah, nah, I'd rather have her talk with men on stream in the game than having orgies off stream
I feel like almost every member of Hololive is either in a relationship, fucking at least once a week if they're single or married with kids. They're charming young women aged 20-40 at the end of the day so I know they're all fucking constantly and it doesn't upset me. I just don't want male shit in streams and it's clearly not just me for most of Hololive doesn't do it and those that do are almost always runts. It's only untouchables like gen0 or gigastacys that get away with it. I don't know why these women can't control themselves for a few hours. I'd happily only collab and chill with male vtubers for a few hours a day if I had a bunch of horny disgusting menhera hags throwing that kind of money at me.

>> No.64327415

>>64325737
"and basically revealed who she really was"

Who is she really?

>> No.64327575

>>64327415
Hoshikawa Sara basically

>> No.64327665

>>64327575
Come on, she's not THAT slutty.

>> No.64327885

>>64326846
i don't care what they do off stream. that's nothing i'll ever be exposed to. i only care what they do on stream.

>> No.64327962

>>64327885
I don't see why would you attach yourself to Ririka then, when there are plenty of options in holo, is she really that unique compared to others?

>> No.64328140

>>64327166
no one in japan has sex

>> No.64328179

>>64327962
she was the one i like the most out of her gen, and they were still new enough to be interesting solely for being new. and her streams were at hours i was around.

>> No.64328235

>>64311458
>>64311526
Its like the second day of the third day you retards

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GRbuMZDr4zo&t=10898s
> Nooo~ I don't want the unicorns to just silently leave~ I want them to stay~
> It's fine for you guys to stay!
> Ririka wants to fix your horn~
> It's fine to take it off when washing, but I want it to stay! Isn't it fine?!
> "Are unicorns even here?" - chat.
> Of course they are!
> I don't want them to disappear! They won't disappear, I'll just put the horn back in.
> It's fine, I'll revive them with my ASMR.
> Isn't this better though? Isn't this more like a "boyfriend" experience?
> Rather than saying "I love you" to girls who don't know males and never interact with males, surely it's a lot better when she knows a bunch of guys, but only loves YOU right?
> Yeah, so. I don't know what I'm saying but *intermittent laughter*.
> I might have messed up my words a bit here and there, but I just wanted to tell you guys that you don't have to worry.
> Rather than be silent and ignoring the elephant in the room, I wanted to convey my feelings.
> These are my feelings! Yoroshiku na!

>> No.64328300

>>64328235
>second day of the third day
second OR the third day

>> No.64328696

"We all had her but anon oshi her"

>> No.64328831

>>64305469
>bimbo exhibits bimbo behavior.

>> No.64329273

>>64328235
>> Rather than saying "I love you" to girls who don't know males and never interact with males, surely it's a lot better when she knows a bunch of guys, but only loves YOU right?
>> Yeah, so. I don't know what I'm saying but *intermittent laughter*.
>> I might have messed up my words a bit here and there, but I just wanted to tell you guys that you don't have to worry.
So does this kind of gambit work?
>collab with males but also do hardcore GFE to "cancel it out"

>> No.64329356

>>64326395
It's true that GFE doesn't need to follow the rules of real relationships, but there is no single set of rules that it does need to follow either. You and many others may see girls interacting with guys as something you accept in real relationships but avoid in idealized virtual ones, but to Ririka, it IS her ideal. If she were a viewer looking for GFE/BFE she would want that to be a part of it, so as a GFE streamer she wants to provide it. It clearly isn't everyone's cup of tea, but she's new enough that it's fine for her to still be carving out her audience.

>> No.64329369

>>64329273
I mean the gambit might've worked if she didnt fucking say it out loud

>> No.64330182

>>64314795
>a Japanese (IE 25) Hag
That's called a cake you dumb newfag

>> No.64330948

Ririka lost

>> No.64331281

>>64306160
>She drew a pretty clear line, she'll go on things like VCR or garibenger for the sake of growing her audience
No, no, no, don't start with this bullshit of moving goalposts.
It starts with no male collabs ever, then it goes except for some sponsors with professional figures, then e-celebs, then recordings duets are fine, then big collabs are fine if they're purely professional, then there's problem then laughing lots and having with them if they're in groups more than two, then duo collabs are fine if they're not common and finally you get them being 80% of the channel content.

>> No.64331455

>>64331281
the slippery slope. you stop it now or move on to another streamer. it'll all just end up with her addicted to valorant flirting with guys during the buy phase.

>> No.64331564

>>64306160
This is basically trying to normalize steps further and further until the trojan horse is completely in btw.

>> No.64331886

>>64306160
All of that would have been defensible if not for her "joke" about reeling the unicorns back with ASMR.

>> No.64332323

I was wondering why you guys care so much, but then it hit me. For unicorns, talking to a girl is a distant dream. So her even briefly talking to a dude is a bitter reminder of what you can't have. I see now

>> No.64332690

>>64306504
You're actually the dumbfuck that hasn't been on message boards and seeing the shit people have been saying about her.

>> No.64332712

>>64332323
Somehow I don't imagine a guy trying to fight some shitty culture war on the 4chan vtuber board is getting much action with women either.

>> No.64332923

>>64308046
Fucking based sane anon that doesn't belong on /vt/

>> No.64333102

>>64305977
Telling everyone openly what your scheme is and spoiling your secret backup plan isn't exactly a great strategy to expect it to go flawlessly afterwards. It basically says "I know they're gonna hate me for it but they're just idiots I can wrap around my finger by force again after" which is, in essence showing that she has 0 respect for her fans but wants their money anyway.

>> No.64333298

I was wondering what you all were whining about. I thought Ririka did something crazy.
Turns out it's just because she played on the VCR GTA server...
Why are unicorns insane like this?

>> No.64333409

>>64333298
retard

>> No.64333432

>>64332323
>briefly
Anon, when they get to this point they spend consecutive weeks talking to male e-celebs for over 6 hours per day.
You pay 6 dollars for a 5 minutes long voice-pack that isn't even written by them.

>> No.64333462

>>64310954
It's crazy that this is 5 years old and talking about 35yo women who lost they damn minds over being a rainbow haired slut in college lmao.

>> No.64333526

>>64329273
Not if you explicitly say it.

>> No.64333555

>>64306089
YOU VILL VATCH AND LIKEA ND SUBSCLIBE TO ZEE HOMOS

>> No.64333600

>>64333102
She's just like me with my employers.

>>64312031
I'm sure all those women will have sex with you bro.

>> No.64333632 [DELETED] 

>>64333432
The thing I don't get about unicorns is why you can't just not watch the male collabs. You know every one of these women is having actual sex with other men behind the scenes. Why can you ignore their boyfriends but not click hide on male collabs and move on with your life?

>> No.64333657

>>64306248
It's actually worse when they 'apologize' because they make big promises of setting things right and then refuse to deliver or pretend like they forgot lol. They just want the social credits for being seen as a good person, without actually going the mileage. Conversely, never do anything for women or apologize to them.

>> No.64333740 [DELETED] 

>>64333657
Also fascinating to me is how someone can hate women this much and still want GFE. Just jerk off to violent degrading porn and play videogames or something like a normal person.

>> No.64333779

>>64333632
Same reason you can't help but try and tell Unicorns how they should behave. Can't you just ignore these threads and move on with your life? You'd never know this drama existed if you didn't live /here/

>> No.64333977 [DELETED] 

>>64333779
I'm only here as a diversion while the one thread I actually follow is dead. But that was a genuine question. What makes platonic male collabs so impossible to ignore compared to the guaranteed reality that these women are having sexual and romantic relationships with men that aren't you? It's not like they pop in at random mid-stream unless you watch NijiEN or some shit

>> No.64334068

Ririka destroyed me emotionally

>> No.64334350

>>64333298
How new?

>> No.64335676

Why did she do it?

>> No.64339621

>>64335676
the alcohol let her true feelings come out

>> No.64340016

>>64333298
Nah she also mocked unicorns saying something like "I'll do ASMR then they'll heal themselves lol"
Mocking unicorns is not a problem but treating ASMR like a tool to lure them didn't sound good to her other fans that genuinely looked forward to it
and kinda disrespectful to other Vtuber who take ASMR seriously as their content including some Holo senpais

>> No.64340685

>>64306160
I think you fundamentally misunderstand.
There was never any problem with them going on programs like Gariben Girl V. Those are variety shows where the host is essentially interviewing the guests. Even the holos who say they will never collab with males, go on that show or do interviews like that.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3tiKejlKo2g

The issue comes from having to sit there while your oshi talks to male e-celebs and becomes friends with them. At that point, you feel like a third wheel to their friendship. It's like getting invited to a party by the girl you like but then you end up sitting on a couch with a drink in your hand while she ignores you and talks to other guys the whole night while adding them on Line or Discord. Why would I want to watch other guys get to have fun her when I don't even get to do that? You can say that Ririka isn't doing that, but all the others that join VCR servers like Towa, Laplus, Aki, Mel, Matsuri, and Suisei are all literally adding the guys they play with to Line and becoming friends with them off-stream. The only one who doesn't seem to do that is Botan.

Aki ended her stream by telling her fans that felt tired and so was going to go sign fan cards and go to bed. But then she was caught playing Street Fighter 6 with totomix for hours with her hololive account.
https://twitter.com/gK24E08y6FDOi9f/status/1722320166762226037
What's worse is that he also told his viewers that he was going to bed right after Aki said it, so she literally sent him a message to go play in secret.

You have people giving these women tons of their support, money, and time for years, all of which she asks for, and she thanks them and calls them her fans. Then some random male streamer comes along and she immediately calls him her friend. What the fuck is wrong with you? Why would you want that?

>> No.64341676

>>64340685
>Aki ended her stream by telling her fans that felt tired and so was going to go sign fan cards and go to bed. But then she was caught playing Street Fighter 6 with totomix for hours with her hololive account.
kek. They really like these e celebs

>> No.64341789

>>64341676
Aki is getting on in years, she's looking for a mate, pls forgib

>> No.64342088

>>64340685
>Aki ended her stream by telling her fans that felt tired and so was going to go sign fan cards and go to bed. But then she was caught playing Street Fighter 6 with totomix for hours with her hololive account.
Dire, that's why this coed eceleb mixer content is trash. Yeah a lot of these girls are likely going to end up with another streamer someday anyway but you are nothing but a proud cuck if you clap your hands and support them doing it infront of your face and pay for the privilege of watching.

>> No.64342249

>>64340685
>Aki ended her stream by telling her fans that felt tired and so was going to go sign fan cards and go to bed. But then she was caught playing Street Fighter 6 with totomix for hours with her hololive account.
Okay yeah that's kinda fucked. I'm not even really super against collabing, but that'a just rude to your fans.

>> No.64343028

>>64342088
Well even if they don't do that on-screen you don't know what's going on off-screen. Look at what happend to Rushia, or even Suisei.
If you hate that there's even a chance your oshi ends up with another streamer, then you shoudln't be a fan of vtuber in the frist place.
Only Holomem who I can say "she doesn't do that" with some confidence is maybe Kanata and that's all.

>> No.64343247

>>64333298
>>64340016
You shouldn't speak about things you don't understand, especially if you don't know any Japanese.
Ririka wants unicorn fans to stay. She wasn't trying to mock them. Tease them, maybe, but she wasn't trying to hurt them.

>ユニコーンは黙って離れないで!
>やだやだ!離れないで欲しい!ユニコーンいて欲しいの!やなの!
>いていいのユニコーンは!ツノ刺すから!!ツノの刺し直しをしたいのりりかは!
>わかる?ツノ洗うために外すのはいいんだけどいて欲しいの!やなの!別にいーじゃん!
>『ユニコーンいるかな?』いるだろ!消えるのやだ!消えない消えない刺すからまた
>大丈夫ASMRで!ASMRで復活するから大丈夫!

She said it's fine if some of her fans are angry with her and she doesn't mind if they leave as long as they come back. And she knows they'll come back for ASMR. The problem is, that's not really how these things work. What she said seemed way too cold, calculating, and impersonal, especially with the jovial faux-whiny tone she was using.
Basically, she insulted all her viewers by reducing them to numbers that she will min/max without considering their feelings. It felt like she was looking down on them and saying that they'd come crawling back so it doesn't matter what she does. It felt tone-deaf and out of character for someone who's been so sweet, affectionate, and reassuring towards her fans up until now.
That is why her comments section blew up and why so many of the negative comments are from her members.

>> No.64343607

>>64343028
>If you hate that there's even a chance your oshi ends up with another streamer
I didn't say that, I said it's one of the more likely things to happen. Regardless of people like Kronii gaslighting with the
>no we would never date our colleagues who does that?
spiel if you live in reality then work associates/ people in the same entertainment sphere are THE most likely to actually get in your oshi's pants.

The point is not to facilitate it happening yourself by supporting all this eceleb chasing stuff JP is trying to do. I don't even think that is a unicorn position, I just want them to do that shit on their own time as their rm and not have it make up holo stream content. Nobody wants to see it except hetshippers and even some of them get filtered when it becomes a real thing and not just a soap opera.

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>>64343247
>she insulted all her viewers
I'm one of her viewers and I don't feel that way, FULL STOP. If you're hurt just say it stop this "all" nonsense. You're just like the retards claiming Ina hated all her fans during the Guilty Gear collab with Mori.

>> No.64343886

>>64339621
What a bitch

>> No.64344060

>>64343689
>I'm one of her viewers
Weeks go by and this girl is hardly ever mentioned. This shit happens and suddenly she has viewers everywhere in every thread. Curious.

>> No.64344708

>>64343247
Oh don't try to teach me the laungage that you won't ever be better at.
確かに"馬鹿にしてやる"って強い意志を持って言ってた訳じゃないけど、結果として"ASMRをユニコーンを連れ戻すための道具"として扱った訳だろ?
それがASMRを普通に楽しみにしてたリスナーやASMRを誇りをもってやってる他のホロメンに失礼だって言ってんの。それも"ホロライブ"って箱に90%以上下駄履かせてもらってる新人の分際でな

>> No.64344939

Ri chan hates me

>> No.64345110

>>64342088
>Dire, that's why this coed eceleb mixer content is trash.
Pretty much, and we got to the point that they are treating their viewers/members just as a nuisance.
This is sad.

>> No.64345721

>>64345110
There're many Holomems who appreciate their fans. Most of those who don't are irrelevant in the first place like Aki so why do you care? Let them be.

>> No.64346526

>>64343689
You're talking as if how you personally feel about what she said changes the content or context of what she said. It doesn't.
Yes, she insulted ALL her fans by saying what she did. FULL STOP. She dehumanized those that have supported her since the beginning by reducing them to numbers and making light of how they feel. You're a fool if you think she was only talking about "unicorn fans" when she talks about her not minding large segments of her fanbase to leave because she'll just make up the difference as if no particular fan matters to her. It's entitled and gross.

>> No.64346733

>>64343247
>she insulted all her viewers by reducing them to numbers that she will min/max without considering their feelings.
she is redpilling nips who are the most bluepilled people on heart. she is doing a great service to them actually.

>> No.64347456

>>64306504
Retard

>> No.64347969

>>64344708
>that you won't ever be better at.
If you really do know Japanese, and aren't using MTL, then you might very well be better than I am. I'm not touting to be an expert; I am still new to learning it. But you aren't better than native speakers, and many of them have said the same thing I have.
>結果として"ASMRをユニコーンを連れ戻すための道具"として扱った訳だろ?
That was her implication, yes.
>それがASMRを普通に楽しみにしてたリスナーやASMRを誇りをもってやってる他のホロメンに失礼だって言ってんの。
My problem with that is the assumption that she thought what she was saying applies to other holomen and so she was somehow insulting them and their viewers as well. I sincerely think the only people she was thinking about when she said that were herself and her own viewers, or maybe she just wasn't thinking at all, because what she said was so tone-deaf. I never said what she said wasn't hurtful.
>それも"ホロライブ"って箱に90%以上下駄履かせてもらってる新人の分際でな
Her being new obviously means that what she says is going to be scrutinized, but I think it's also important to give her a chance to show what she means before condemning her. That being said, I think she should apologize, but only to her fans. She wasn't insulting the other members or implying that ASMR is a tool to make up for mistakes. She was implying that fans' hearts are easily swayed and so she should apologize for taking the support she receives for granted.

>> No.64349362

>>64306504
You can't fool me

>> No.64350519

>>64347969
She already apologized next stream.

>> No.64350786

>>64340685
Your central premise is that she's making friends with male e-celebs and starting down a slippery slope, but is she? She's actively avoided long term engagement with every male she's met, up to and including going off to do her own thing on a stream that was originally supposed to be playing with Mel, who just so happened to be doing long term group activities with holostars, when arguably the more 'natural' route would be to join the group with her senpai. The closest thing to a friendship she's made is with a girl from vspo, where they wanted to work at a pizza shop owned by another girl. If her true goal was seducing male e-celebs, running away form all of them to make friends with 3view vtuber girls is a pretty weird way to go about it.

You acknowledge that it is possible for there to be cases like Botan, all I'm saying is that her behavior so far makes her seem more like Botan, than say, Mel or Aki. And while I've seen some criticizing her for laying out what they think is the wrong line, I don't think anyone has said the line she laid out is unclear. The idea that she'd lay out her line so explicitly, literally stake her reputation and her audience's trust in her on it just so she could break it live on stream is nonsensical. She laid out her position, and you might think it's too far down the slope, but she's not sliding yet, and it'll be obvious if she ever does.

>> No.64351406

>>64350519
>still trusting

>> No.64351585

>>64350786
of course she's going to walk it back after what she said. now will she stick to that or go back to her original plan after she thinks things have cooled down?

>> No.64351704

>>64331886
>about reeling the unicorns back with ASMR.
did she seriously do that? kek

>> No.64352167

>>64340685
>It's like getting invited to a party by the girl you like but then you end up sitting on a couch with a drink in your hand while she ignores you and talks to other guys the whole night while adding them on Line or Discord. Why would I want to watch other guys get to have fun her when I don't even get to do that?
Why are you putting yourself on the same level as them all? You and other fans aren't streamers so you would never be at such a party in the first place. Feels like this parasocialism has gone to alot of peoples' heads and made them believe they are as vital to vtubing as the vtubers themselves.

>> No.64353277

>>64344060
Its the same reason why people might enjoy a place but not leave a 5 star review while if someone hates it they will almost -always- leave a 1 star review. No need to defend until someone starts shitting up the place and to counter their sky is falling narrative.

>> No.64355108

>>64352167
The part of his post you quoted literally shows he doesn't put himself on the same level
It doesn't make it any more pleasant to watch as content and if you really don't understand why you must be a woman

>> No.64355422

>>64355108
You're invited to a party of streamers.
Why are fans at a party for streamers?
Regardless of whether ignored or not, why are fans at the party?
The analogy is stupid and shows how warped his mindset is.

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>>64355422
>tripped up this badly by the slightly clumsy analogy
Just retarded then okay.
Also if you are not a sad sack lonely fuck who gets attached to their oshi and feels the natural emotion of jealousy when they pay attention to other men then you are too casual and don't belong on this board.

>> No.64356024

>>64355872
>then you are too casual and don't belong on this board.
Which board would suggest then cucked incel?

>> No.64356122

>>64356024
>parasocial
>le warped mindset
>incel
I would suggest
>>>\r\eddit

>> No.64356629

>>64356122
Alright then, this will be my last contribution to this particular thread but just remember
YWNBJ and your oshi will never acknowledge you in the way you deeply desire

>> No.64356673

>>64356629
can you post pits before you go?

>> No.64357250

>Still seething about this
Why are unicorns so fucking vile?

>> No.64357591

>>64352167
>he considers himself inferior to a fucking streamer.
what good self-esteem, lol.

>> No.64357680

>>64357250
Because they are genuinely mentally ill.

>> No.64358845

>>64305469
Yeah, I actually thought she was gonna be a much superior and younger Choco. But I don't think even Choco collabs with males..

>> No.64361669

>>64352167
Imagine thinking and accepting that your idol thinks you're unworthy trash, lmao.
You literally sound like a cuck anticipating the bull railing your girlfriend. You're fucking disgusting and you're right: (You) ARE trash.

>> No.64361710

>>64355422
idols aren't the same culture as cucked western celebrity worship garbage
go back, faggot.

>> No.64362056

Cucks

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>>64357250
>>64357680
Not like you faggots are any better.

>> No.64363059

>>64305469
Go ahead and call me an EOP or whatever the fuck, but why is it bad to join a huge server with actual celebs like Yuichi Nakamura and building your connections with the top celebs?
Yes, there's e-celeb garbage along the way but I thought you fags didn't care about shit like that as long as it wasn't the homos.
Not only that, actual celebs were always celebrated like the Pekora collabs with real celebs.
Why's it different when Ririka does it? Because it's only 4 months in? Doesn't that just mean she's getting an early start that her senpai's got later on? Shouldn't kouhai's be entitled to profiting off what their senpai's did earlier thanks to their experiences?

>> No.64364097

>>64363059
There's so many people in that server that the chances of any of them to interact and network with actual celebrities are extremely low, not to mention how in these big servers if you don't take initiative you end up as a human NPC that depends on the actual play makers to do something involving you, and last time I checked the only Holo who ever achieved that status was Aki during the Ark server which is why her numbers were (and still currently are) so much better than literally any other Holo playing there. Also I believe the server will be up until the end of the month so for the rest of December at least half of her content will be GTA which is a game she's never touched on stream before and something that a part of her audience isn't interested in. Granted, she pretty much just debuted and doesn't really have a established audience yet but doing this so soon in her career is potentially a suicide move, especially after how Cover literally sent ReGloss to die with their awful debut timing (just after the hlzntl debacle), nonsensical rebranding and unwillingness to explain why the fuck they're a new branch, all things that made a part of the core Hololive audience uninterested in them and what Ririka (and Ao) are doing is just making things worse for them because that audience (the so called Holobox) likes Hololive near exclusively, which is why Raden's drinking collab with Noel had more viewers than the sum of all VCR streams both of them had in the same time period. In summary she's gambling access to the greater Holo audience that she would potentially get by grinding (and she was showing progress at that) for a chance to get a bunch of tourists interested in her without knowing how to make said tourists become long term viewers by the things she's doing on the server (tho I'm only going by what anons here said because I'm not wasting my time watching GTA RP), so pretty much taking a shortcut that might not end up in a positive way and she made things considerably worse with the retarded unicorn comment.

>> No.64364467

If she didn't homocollab nobody would've seen her unicorn comment "problematic". It would've been just treated as a joke.

Anyway she will keep homocollabing so anyone who expects GFE from her should stop watching her. If you don't care much about homocollabs you can still enjoy her. That's it. I don't think this is a very big issue compared to other holomems fuckups like the recent Suisei one or what Laplus has been doing. She could be like Matsuri in the end though.

>> No.64365512

She had such a promising career
a shame

>> No.64366749

>>64305827
>She convinced us she was more otaku with the outer shell of a gyaru
How old are you? If you're above 19 you need to grow up.

>> No.64366790

Only chuubas who collab with men are brave enough to do a penis rating stream

>> No.64366936

>>64326395
>She's actually GFE
Unless she comes out with engagement rings merch this is a nothingburger.

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>>64328235
JP comments mocking unicorns is brutal.
I'm going to start using the pointing emoji too.

>> No.64367185

>>64339621
>the alcohol let her true feelings come out
You speak like a woman.

>> No.64367280

>>64343247
>What she said seemed way too cold, calculating, and impersonal
If you're patently insecure as a person, then yes. The words themselves make it seem that way but not if you actually listen to the video itself.

>> No.64367289

>>64305469
Nothing has changed, you're just a schizo. Take your meds.

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>>64367155
Man the unicorns really made themselves look pathetic when she pulls this amount of SC after driving them away
Seems like Ririkas unicorns never really donated

>> No.64367398

>Mori collabs with Kiara
>Yabs
>Kronii collabs with Kiara
>Yabs
>Ririka collabs with Kiara
>Yabs
This is all your fault Kiara...

>> No.64367504

>>64367345
I don't get their lingo around using cow and horse emoji but it's really fun going through the comments.
There seems to be a theme of mocking unicorns as "weak bodied men" too

>driving them away
They've done that themselves. Her entire monologue was in a joking manner rather than any serious talk.

>> No.64367542

>>64367345
>Calls her fans cucks who will stick around no matter what she does
>They do
Kek

>> No.64367986

So, Ririka's fanbase is the new fandead?

>> No.64368559

>>64367986
No, that was different. The comparison here is with plusmates.

>> No.64368900

>>64367986
No her fanbase will be like Sukonbu. Fubuki does tons of homocollabs but still keeps gachis. The common thing is that both have very friendly interactions with their fans.

>> No.64369401

>>64368900
Gachi are just paypigs who stay no matter what. "Friendly interactions" or not don't matter, since gachi don't make any demands. As soon as they make any demands they're unicorn incels.

>> No.64370528

>>64367542
like a pottery

>> No.64370683

>>64367504
So strong-bodied men would be okay being permanent third wheels while Ririka cavorts with homos and ecelebs?

>> No.64370768

It's not her fault if her fanbase is full of cucks. It would be a waste if she didn't take their money.

>> No.64370784

>>64370683
You don't understand japanese culture, a "strong" man there is someone who opens his wallet for a woman.

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>>64370784

>> No.64371198

>>64370683
>>64370784
Only If he doesn't complain. A strong man will pay a woman to fuck another man because he's secure in his own masculinity. That's yamato damashi

>> No.64372356

>>64362899
>irrelevant reddit screenshot
See how mentally ill you are you cuck? Everything is binary to you SEAfags. Can't deal with the fact everyone makes fun of you so you cope by inventing boogeymen and strawmen you can attack.
Pathetic.

>> No.64372393

>the gyaru character is mean to nerds and otaku
No way!!!!!

>> No.64372409

>>64372356
Lotta buzzwords for a seethe post.

>> No.64373722

>>64309136
So you guys are just the average catalog dramarino got it.

>> No.64373770

>>64325737
Forced? Lmao.

>> No.64374181

>>64372409
He has a point anon, why are you using reddit screenshots from some who as an argument?

>> No.64374365

>>64374181
Why wouldn't I?

>> No.64374570
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64374570

>>64305469
Women are so sensitive, why do they have to bitch and moan about everything? You dont see men crying over the the smallest thi- >>64305827

Oh... nevermind.
Get a grip bros its just a GTA collab, you're all star5ting to sound like femanons

>> No.64375404

>>64362899
mindbroken

>> No.64375440

>>64305827
>Why do women have to be so fucking retarded
Why are men so fucking retarded? Why do you fall for made-up shit so easily?

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64375577

>>64305469
It's a canon event

>> No.64375581

>>64375404
Yeah, the beggars after dumb and dumber got graduated. Maybe next year there will be more going by what the menhera seaweed talked about in a recent stream.

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64375629

I'm out of the loop, wtf is a unicorn?

>> No.64375748

>>64375629
>in JP idol fan jargon
fan who only oshis girls who are confirmed single and avoid casual interaction with men
>in bastardized /vt/ slang
fan who only oshis chuubas who don't collab with male streamers, regardless of what they do offscreen

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64376210

>>64375748
thanks!

>> No.64377228

>>64343247
>She said it's fine if some of her fans are angry with her and she doesn't mind if they leave as long as they come back. And she knows they'll come back for ASMR. The problem is, that's not really how these things work.
Good, makes sense, kinda cynical but hey some people need to be moody.

>What she said seemed way too cold, calculating, and impersonal, especially with the jovial faux-whiny tone she was using.
Basically, she insulted all her viewers by reducing them to numbers that she will min/max without considering their feelings. It felt like she was looking down on them and saying that they'd come crawling back so it doesn't matter what she does. It felt tone-deaf and out of character for someone who's been so sweet, affectionate, and reassuring towards her fans up until now.
That is why her comments section blew up and why so many of the negative comments are from her members.
Odd, paranoid, and fetishistic. If you really believe that, monch on some meds and GWS. If you are unwilling, try the ipposite perspective and argue with yourself a bit to see if you make sense. Also drink some water.

>> No.64377276

>>64377228
>she insulted all her viewers by reducing them to numbers that she will min/max without considering their feelings
Lmao
Are you a woman or what? Why do you speak like this?

>> No.64378193

When a person is drunk, their true colors are revealed.

>> No.64378258

>>64377228
Her joke on that stream is so funny that no one is laughing. She has done literally nothing to be treated like someone special. She bleeds when she gets stabbed, just like everyone else.

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>>64378258
the top comments made me laugh though lmao

>> No.64378481

>>64378193
this. alcohol just made her stupid enough to say what she was thinking.

>> No.64378484

>still coping about "i-its jork"
A drunk mind speaks a sober heart.
It's fine to be a proud cuck, there's nothing wrong with that in le current years but don't insult others for not feeling the same.

>> No.64378931

She was drunk enough to make a joke she wouldn't have normally been bold enough to make. Still a joke.

>> No.64379693

>>64375629
A vTuber fan who doesn't like watching their favorite vTubers collab with and flirt with men on stream and complains about it and/or stops paying money to a vTuber who does it.

>> No.64380331

>>64306504
/thread

>> No.64380869

>>64378931
that she had thought about before.

>> No.64381887

>>64363059
Aside from the fact it's not really practical like the other anon said, I personally don't really want a vtuber I like to "network" with some male celebrity and get clout as a result, any normal fan would much rather their vtuber oshi stay as a normal down to earth streamer than treating the job as a bridge to become a VA (which usually results in one or two minor roles btw).

>> No.64381921

>>64378484
Yes but the fact is that it's simply not that deep or offensive.

>> No.64381960

>JPigs jumping through hoops to justify what she said

>> No.64381987

>>64381960
Very cool, now show us your membership status.

>> No.64382838

>>64378454
Good for you. Not for Ririka though.

>> No.64383054

Has Ririka actually done anything wrong?
Or is it anti-unicorn/Niji deflection tactic?

>> No.64383604

>>64381987
I don't member anyone before 6 months. If you did you are stupid.

>> No.64384895

>>64383054
Not really. This backlash is really disproportional to the offense. It's a bit weird, but I'm guessing there's just not been enough to make drama about lately in Hololive (jp) so they try to milk it as hard as they can.

>> No.64384975

>>64384895
And they got TWO Niji graduations for it in return. Karma is a most beautiful thing.

>> No.64385212

>>64306504
go fuck yourself, she came onto Kiara's channel to appeal to us, she spoke entirely in english to appeal to EN idol fans

what a disingenuous little snake you are, acting like this shit didn't happen

>> No.64387636

Riri why?

>> No.64388675

>>64385212
>acting like this shit didn't happen
I don't even know WHAT happened. All people keep saying is that she's a traitor for reasons.

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64388856

>>64388675
This is the cause for the outrage. You can be the judge of the severity of this,

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GRbuMZDr4zo&t=10898s [Embed]
> Nooo~ I don't want the unicorns to just silently leave~ I want them to stay~
> It's fine for you guys to stay!
> Ririka wants to fix your horn~
> It's fine to take it off when washing, but I want it to stay! Isn't it fine?!
> "Are unicorns even here?" - chat.
> Of course they are!
> I don't want them to disappear! They won't disappear, I'll just put the horn back in.
> It's fine, I'll revive them with my ASMR.
> Isn't this better though? Isn't this more like a "boyfriend" experience?
> Rather than saying "I love you" to girls who don't know males and never interact with males, surely it's a lot better when she knows a bunch of guys, but only loves YOU right?
> Yeah, so. I don't know what I'm saying but *intermittent laughter*.
> I might have messed up my words a bit here and there, but I just wanted to tell you guys that you don't have to worry.
> Rather than be silent and ignoring the elephant in the room, I wanted to convey my feelings.
> These are my feelings! Yoroshiku na!

>> No.64389441

>>64388675
so fucking read the threads. it's not like people haven't discussed the details over and over.

>> No.64391712

>>64375629
it's another word for "tranny".

>> No.64391775

>>64305469
she's a manipulative bitch, get over it

>> No.64392347

>>64391775
But I love her...

>> No.64392443

>>64391712
It's hilarious how you faggots are still trying to push this when it's your homos who keep talking about "muh nonbinary" and "supporting the cause".

>> No.64392611

>>64392443
and it's hilarious how you retards still try to use this argument when the discussion is about fanbase behavior. you and Altare can both be retarded.

>> No.64393097

>>64305469
Not my oshi, blocked and ignored until she returns to the path of good.

>> No.64393514

>>64393097
Her hymen won't fix herself

>> No.64393537

>>64305469
so what will she do once the tourist public that only cares about the e-celebs get tired of her non collab content and leave?

>> No.64393539

>>64393097
Once a whore always a whore. There is no coming back from that.

>> No.64393574

>>64393537
Not my problem

>> No.64396102

>>64305469
holy boobs

>> No.64397026

>>64388856
That's it? That's what people (schizos) are mad about?

>> No.64397460

My cute gyaru wife

>> No.64397956

>>64397026
To be fair they were going to be mad with just the gta announcement.

>> No.64398358

>>64397956
Sounds like schizo antis foaming at the mouth getting ready to find a reason to anti her considering nearly everyone else in Regloss has been shit on one way or another. It was only a matter of time before it was her turn for something dumb.

>> No.64399540

>>64305469
Just so I make sure I got this right. The girl who looks like she would fit in as a character in from Rent-a-girlfriend from the gen that people thought was going to be the male collab gen, that already talked with guys on twitter... Some how tricked people into Unicorn for her only to do whatever expected her to?
Why is this shocking? Who in the fuck would ignore multiple big signs then decide "yep, this is my Oshi. She won't collab with men"?

>> No.64400056

>>64397026
Unicorns know that they are such low-quality males that no girl would ever love them unless they were the only possible option

>> No.64400237

>>64388856
Bad translation

>> No.64400271

I wanted my own Marin

>> No.64404121

>>64305469
boobs

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>>64305469

>> No.64405592

>>64388856
oh not another nijikek reject

>> No.64407013

I had high hopes for her

>> No.64409450

>>64397956
her schedule is making me not want to watch at all

>> No.64410324

She fell off

>> No.64411665

>>64407013
Same.
I'm not some blackpilled faggot who assumes all women are whores and I can't help but resent her for doing nothing but reinforcing and justifying that mentality
All she had to do was be a decent person

>> No.64412351

Come be cucks
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TX0xZVuUVjA

>> No.64412781

>>64412351
I might start to buy bots to fuck up her views to interaction ratio so that the algorithm screws over her visibility at some point later this week
I told myself to follow the "give them a week" rule for years now though so I guess it kinda depends on her, really doubt she can fix it though. All she's said just makes me think less of her.

>> No.64413246

>>64412781
you should like a women honestly.

>> No.64413980

>>64413246
is this ESL or just a very ambiguous sentence?

>> No.64415070

>>64413980
i guess he meant that you should have love in your life

>> No.64415756

>>64413980
probably meant "sound like a woman" and got autocorrected

>> No.64417423

>>64397026
The people that shit their pants at the thought of men are also the only """people""" who would get mad at their oshi over shit like this.
It's sad to see.

>> No.64417506

>>64308856
You failed to understand the issue completely. Kill yourself instead of shitting up the threads. You aren't capable of contributing because you lack basic knowledge of the subject.

>> No.64417620

>>64388856
>>64397026
It's lacking the context of her being GFE and going out of her way to bait unicorns over previous weeks.

>> No.64417658

>>64305469
>Trusting a guaru
You might as well trust the party girl in the Miami club that sucked her 2 dick of the night in a bathroom

>> No.64418180

She betrayed us all.

>> No.64418271

>>64305469
she was never gonna be your wife

>> No.64418357

>>64418271
Did you get lost, twitterfag?

>> No.64418379

>>64418271
She literally promised though

>> No.64418616

>>64418271
I'm literally married to her in GTA and we're having sweaty erp sex right now

>> No.64418865

>>64306156
The audio mason. Where is the audio?

>> No.64420161

>>64415070
If I didn't have love in my life I wouldn't be able to be disappointed by ririkas choices
If that was the intent of that sentence then that posters read of me is the exact opposite of everything I believe in(that relates to this)
>>64415756
oh yeah fair enough, that sounds more like the usual for faggots /here/

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>>64388856
thats actually funny
>putting the horn back
my sides

>> No.64426094

>>64368559
that certainly seems to be the baitposters' narrative, yes.

>> No.64426209

>>64412351
>eating stream
ok I recovered

>> No.64426681

My cute wife

>> No.64429093

Her content and viewership is going to stay exactly the same because none of you faggots matter or will ever do anything. Consider killing yourself OP and anyone else who shares this view.

>> No.64429554

>>64429093
She knows her audience well, she's 100% correct in the fact that she can do what she wants as long as she sprinkles a little bit of asmr occasionally, and all the losers will keep giving her money, LOL.

>> No.64429577

>>64429554
that's wrong. some or even most will continue watching but they won't donate.

>> No.64429782

>>64305469
I just want to confirm to this thread that OP is a homosexual and also lives in a mud hut

>> No.64431036

>>64429093
>>64429554
>>64429782
It's so obvious you never watched her and only showed up here to participate in culture war.

>> No.64431892

>>64393537
Again, how will she react once the e-celeb public ditches her for not doing enough collab content?

>> No.64431893

>>64431036
As an avid findom enjoyer I can confirm that none of the shitposters watch or understand her content.

>> No.64431951

>>64431036
nope i watched her armored core playthrough
you guys are pathetic

>> No.64432874

>>64431951
And how much have you donated? Because the value of your opinion depends on that. Nothing right? You only watched one playthrough, didn't member her, didn't even know about her GFE content and promises made to unicorns. You never thought seriously about her other than "oh, she played the game I'm interested in and wasn't insufferable so I gave her a watch".
It's easy to not care about problems when you are distanced from the issue. Of course some retarded casual who isn't mentally capable of sympathizing with other people won't care about vtuber being a liar if they never invested into her and refuse to acknowledge point of view of other, more invested fans.

>> No.64432948

>>64432874
sorry that i'm not mentally ill like you

>> No.64433011

This thread must be ironic right. You can't be serious.

>> No.64433219

>>64432874
She already promised she's make it up to you after she's done having fun with real men. If you don't like it, how about you do some extra work until the nijimales and holostars are done with her. I'm sure she'll appreciate a breadwinner like you waiting patiently for her, ready to donate.

>> No.64433340

>>64433219
What's the thought process behind making such dishonest posts?

>> No.64433379

>>64433340
he's calling you a cuck, it's not that deep bro

>> No.64433387

>>64305469
Your wife showed her true colors after she hooked you in. Happens to the best of us. Dump her and move on.

>> No.64433756

>>64433379
so he's a newfag shitposter with no thought processes, got it.

>> No.64433821

>>64305469
I like my Gyaru tainted with the smell of semen from other man. Especially coming back to see her sore red breast and pussy after getting manhandled by all the celeb boys trying to sneak their micropenis into every cervice of Ririka.

>> No.64434537

>>64314496
Anything Niji can do, Holo can do better. In due time.

>> No.64434660

>>64434537
>looks at the homos
Yeah, about that.

>> No.64434831

>>64357250
Envy is the biggest sin of all.
Remember, the whole Tree of Knowledge incident in the Garden of Eden was all because Lucifer was envious God mankind above angels.

>> No.64434958

>>64434831
Is Ririka God or Eve in this comparison?
Either way, I'm Adam.

>> No.64435044

>>64375629
A disease on the vtubing fandom. Comes in two strains: xx and xy.

>> No.64435410

>>64434660
2 grads vs 2 grads. We just added 4.

>>64434831
Arguably Eve.

>> No.64435470

>>64435410
>2 grads vs 2 grads. We just added 4.
The fuck you're talking about?

>> No.64435898

>>64435470
You know.

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