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Who triggered the schizo spammer
When did the JPnigs turn into such shamless bootlickers? They act like 2018 nijifags these days. It's sickening.
>>64190486BASED OP PIC!
>>64190421>Asking Twitter to subscribeWhat was it? 4% conversion rate?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ch0Wlp0ItBo>Vertical Miko GFE>10k waiting already
>>64190486GRIM
YTxTW tally doko?
>>64190513Yeah, just look at him go>>64190516
>>64190460because they only want le unhinged clips
>>64190548can't wait for sora's
>>64190548>Combine 2 FOTM gimmicks togetherMiko is literally the god of abusing gimmicks
>>64190389Kiara and Mori don't live in Japan anymore. They are willing to put some effort into traveling to Japan for the stuff that needed to be done there, meanwhile the rest...Also IDs are poor and make do with what they have to the fullest and produce good contents for the holofans to watch too. They never complain about Cover not bringing them to Japan or something.
>>64190548guerilla at 1am wtf is she doing?
>>64190548
>>64190516Anon, admitting that some EN girls are lazy and not innovative with their streams is not bootlicking.
>>64190574>>64190582It's also a 1.9M subs countdown streamhttps://twitter.com/sakuramiko35/status/1733510542827094388
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ch0Wlp0ItBohttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ch0Wlp0ItBohttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ch0Wlp0ItBo
>>64190629You jumped to management's defense in the last thread. That's the definition of bootlicking.
There are no such things as vshojo fans or nijisanji fans. There are two types of people in the world: holofans and holoans.
>>64190660based
>>64190649Cover management is often has the right of it.
>>64190637Damn talk about buff stackingWhile I fine this blatant numbefagging attempt disgusting, I do respect the hustle
Fuwamoco are botted whores
Ririka on that short live grind. She really wants her 250k subs before the year ends.
>>64190660true true
>>64190660vshojo has more fans than holoEN at this point.
>>64190649I didn't "jump to management's defense". You brought it up as a cope and I told you it is not true. They are free to do what they want as per IRyS.
>>64190548I hope Youtube adds a theater mode for PC>Put it on the middle of the screen
>>64190702>Grinding for 250kGrim
So what did we learn from the last thread anons?
>>64190683They've also royally cocked it up a fuckton too, especially with how they've handled EN over the years. Their particular track record on that front is not stellar, and at best can be called 'negligence caused by circumstances'.
Mika inclining.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2WLiYCiiXkgThey are talking about organs.
>>64190752The NijiEN AR live is back on because they felt humiliated by it being cancelled and CtW being announced weeks later.
I love Advent so much bros
>12/09 FINAL EN YTxTW DAILY TALLY22,983: FUWAMOCO (Hololive) -Botted-14,965: Mori Calliope (Hololive)8,334 : Henya The Genius (Vshojo)6,852 : Zentreya (Vshojo)6,205 : Matara Kan (Vshojo)5,933 : Takanashi Kiara (Hololive)>EN YTxTW TINS FOR NOVEMBER 20231) Selen Tatsuki (Nijisanji) - 11,895 - Birthday Concert2) Watson Amelia (Hololive) - 12,143 - Unarachived Karaoke3) FUWAMOCO (Hololive) - 15,827 - Karaoke4) Selen Tatsuki (Nijisanji) - 21,694 - TSB HoloNIJI Apex5) FUWAMOCO (Hololive) - 21,293 - Fuwamoco Morning (botted)6) Koseki Bijou (Hololive) - 11,662 - The Exit 87) FUWAMOCO (Hololive) - 20,286 - Fuwamoco Morning (botted)8) Ironmouse (Vshojo) - 25,045 - VGA Watchalong9) FUWAMOCO (Hololive) - 22,983 - Fuwamoco Morning (botted)>PER GROUP5x: Hololive (3 botted)2x: Nijisanji1x: Vshojo>PER STREAMER4x: FUWAMOCO2x: Selen Tatsuki1x: IronMouse, Watson Amelia, Bijou >PER BOTTED4x: FUWAMOCO >POINTS PER STREAMER (tin = 5pts, rubber = 3pts, plastic = 1pt)27p:FUWAMOCO 10p:Selen Tatsuki8p: IronMouse6p: IRyS, Watson Amelia, Bae, Bijou4p: Henya The Genius5p: Mori2p: Ceres Fauna1p: GEEGA
>>64190752this sounds like a good meme template, except vox
sister seething over advent new outfit, apparently homos didn't get enough charity special treatment
Ririka joining VCR too.
>ririika is joining GTA VCROh boy
The problem with the EN scene is that there has only been a single superstar that was actually incredibly popular in her own right without leechingAnd now she's mostly awolThere are other "stars" in the scene, but nowhere near the same levelMori is the only other EN chuuba that could claim to be a superstar but only in music, since her stream numbers are usually dogshitKronii was supposed to be Council's star but she fumbled in all sorts of waysMumei is so-called Gura-lite but still normally only has about half Gura's CCV for both normal streams and karaokesFauna probably takes the stable CCV crown now that Ina doesn't give a shit, with Biboo close behind, but they still can't guarantee 10k CCVFWMC are promising hard workers, but their high ceiling (specially when pandering to JP) is crippled by their constant debuff contentOutside of holo, there's only Ironmouse, but other than the fact that she is indeed a hard worker, she requires leeching off others to sustain her numbers, and like all other EN twitch chuubas she suffers from the smaller "box" thereFilian (and to a far lesser extent, Rin) abuses shorts for subs and normally has mediocre streams numbersThat AI chuuba made a big splash but I barely hear anything about her (him) these daysPreviously Luxiem used to rival Gura for certain streams, but they're practically dead
>>64190801>12/09 FINAL EN TWITCH DAILY TALLY8,334: Henya The Genius (Vshojo)6,852: Zentreya (Vshojo)6,205: Matara Kan (Vshojo)>EN TWITCH GOLD FOR NOVEMBER 20231) Ironmouse (Vshojo) - 9,801 - Lethal Company2) Henya The Genius (Vshojo) - 9,809 - VRCHAT3) Ironmouse (Vshojo) - 13,508 - Animation contest4) Henya The Genius (Vshojo) - 8,021 - Lethal Company5) Henya The Genius (Vshojo) - 10,099 - Lethal Company (/w Pomu, Elira, Millie)6) GEEGA (Vshojo) - 6,956 - Super Smash Bros Ultimate (/w Haruka, Zentreya, Henya)7) Filian (Mythic Talent) - 6,315 - Crused Trivia (w/Vienna)8) Ironmouse (Vshojo) - 25,045 - VGA Watchalong9) Henya The Genius (Vshojo) - 8,334 - The Day Before (/w Kson)>PER GROUP8x: Vshojo1x: Mythic Talent>PER STREAMER4x: Henya The Genius 3x: IronMouse1x: GEEGA, Filian>POINTS PER STREAMER (Gold = 5pts, Silver = 3pts, Bronze = 1pt)20p:Henya15p:IronMouse8p: Filian, Zentreya6p: Vedal5p: GEEGA4p: Vedal, Shoto, Vei3p: Kson, Nihmune1p: Anny, Trickywi, OniGiri, MataraSources: Streamcharts
AhhhWas Haachama always like this?
>>64190795buy an ad
HAPPY BIRTHDAY YAGOO
>>64190801>4) Selen Tatsuki (Nijisanji) - 21,694 - TSB HoloNIJI Apexbiased sack of shit
>>64190752botterfag really wants a belojogo version for holoen, fuwamoco especially
>>64190731Yeah, grim as it may be, she settled for this goal before the year ends. Come, watch her do blowjob attempts on the bottle she drinks. Heh
>maybe we should remove EN from the tally>maybe we should add an asterix to the botted numbers>maybe, maybe, maybe.how about we let it be and let the fag waste his money on the streams?i highly doubt you fags take the actual tallies seriously when hololive already won the year MONTHS AGO.and NijiEN haven't been competitive with HoloEN for a year +the only reason you would care about cripple tally is because (you) want your chuuba to win cripple tally, which is basically holo vs holo and makes you look like an ass.you know what i say is true.
https://youtu.be/CYZWD--6yCUAlright brats, you know her type
>>64190690Butt enough about Ironmouse and selen
MIGOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOI CANT WAIT ANYMORE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
>>64190830>>64190833>Everyone would rather join VCR GTA server Miko GTA server dream died for this
>「DAYBREAK FRONTLINE」 - 音乃瀬奏 (cover) *new*https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BWexRFqs3Wg>「名前のない怪物」 - 音乃瀬奏 (cover)https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=45ZfAdZuaok
>>64190795same but also Promise
>>64190883you know you're talking to the fag right?
>>64190801>>64190850
Remember when Ao and Ririka sent tweets to all the stars and people here coped "it doesn't mean they're actually ever going to collab with them"
That's a lot of people waitingMiko might be able to challenge OkaKoro gold
>>64190897>bot vs bot
>>64190910doesn't matter when there are many fags that hate him but possibly share that viewpoint.
>>64190819delicious
>>64190819ESL sisters...
>>64190819OH NO NO NO NO NO
>>64190839Post stinks of number rot, anon.
>>64190958>FAGGOTS viewpoint == 0pointThe only good FAGGOT is a Dead FAGGOT
>>64190958 he's been entertaining this thread for two months now. idk about heate
>>64190854Yes? Are you retarded?
>>64191028not numbers fuck off
>>64190899holy shit that waiting room
>>64190854Kind of, but now she really wants me to get her pregnant.
Miko cute
>>64191051
Miko is about to drop a huge stream before 1 week break and you fag would rather discuss VCR GTA
>>64191051nijiseethe
>>64190854hownewru?
MIKO GOLD AH AH AH AH
>>64191078Sex face
>>64191051We love Biboo and Kaela here.
MY HANDS FEELS SUDDENLY WARM
>>64191051I see two zeros
>>64191098Based, revenge for tanking her average
>>64190819Dangerously ESL
>>64190819desu, they deserve some boring, uglyass man kimonos too.
>>64190900Call me a schizo all you want but I'm starting to think this was an internal sabotage from Cover wanting to break "muh walled garden" and gambling on non-planned interaction between Holos and homos.
>>64190940>remember I don't actually. Didn't pay attention to them then and don't pay attention to them now.
>>64191078cute beeb
>>64191051back to your dead thread nijisis
>>64191024Nah number rot is looking at JP streams and thinking 30k is low because the their overall numbers have kept climbing YoYEN meanwhile still lacks a single consistent 10k+ chuuba other than an active Gura
they went full on short video format mode, Filian really shaked the meta
>>64190942
>>64191156You might have a pointI mean the people who aren't gonna benefit from it are Holo who supported the walled garden, they are not going to get that boost everyone get
>>64191051holoboardholothread
>>64191156The "walled garden" has always been EOP redditor nonsense. JP and ID have been open to outside collabs for a while. EN on the other hand prefers to hide inside their tiny little bubble and leech off of the hard work of JP while avoiding the larger streamer community.
>>64191078When is biboo going to realize she'd made herself the sidekick? You're a sidekick to a fucking holoID, lady. Mori sidekick also since bae has better things to do now.
>>64191221Nice gif! Im gonna save it!
>>64191203Go on and post the normal stream numbers for non Holo EN vtubers, EN streamers in general
>>64191210>Shitlianlmao
>Miko doing a numberfagging stream begging for subsi'll allow it
>>64190819>Tempus already one year but nothing got new outfit or anythingPost THAT image
>>64190710Fuck right off. You really bring up the most mismanaged girl in the company as an example?
>>64191221
>>64191274Shes one of us
>>64190940Anon help, i think im turning into a frog in a pot. Now im moving my standard to “its ok as long she wont be like how mel interacted with axel”
>>64191221I put my dick on the screen
>>64191274In a way, "begging for sub" is also a buff, so Holo should be allowed to use it
>35niggas actually unsubbingbased
>>64191322koyori does it pretty frequently
How did the Selens leech tournament go?
MIKO IS NUMBERFAGGING RIGHT NOW
>>64191338Wrong thread sis, we love Miko and 35p her e
>>64191239You fucking JPniggers and the shit you shamelessly type when your vtubers switch gears is hilarious.
>>64191278
>>64190660>Being a HolofanYou must be 18+ to post here.
>>64191203Holo numbers are superstar numbers was my point, anon.
>>64191372nijiseethe
>>64191338First time watching Hololive sub marathon stream? They always do that to prolong the stream
HEY ANONS!>IS THIS WHAT YOU REALLY WANTED?!?!?LOOK AT THIS! LOOK AT WHAT YOU HAVE DONE!>TAKE RESPONSIBILITY! NOW!
>>64191229Said boost only happens when the server is up with the majority losing most if not all of it when they go back to their usual content.>>64191239Yeah, and I'm sure all of JP is super excited that they might interact with the male failures, right? Something something invisible gun, amirite?
>>64190940That's why I never invest in ReGLOSS coin from the get-go
>>64191390Cope beggar
>>64190819Yeah, they only got 8 new genmates. God, sometimes women make it hard to love them.
>>64191239>>64191372>Holo vs Holo Hello, Nijifaggots
>>64191418NIJISEETHE
>>64190940ao has literally nothing to lose, low ccv and low income, while ririka has low ccv but high income
>>64191416>complaining about JAPANESE vtubers interacting with JAPANESE male streamerscome on, now
>10k waiting room>21kHoly cull, these short streams really are not that good for ccv
>>64190819This is embarrassing, NYE outfits don't even count as real outfits and unironically tempiss would have gotten theirs if 2 of them didn't blow the branch uphell they might still get them its not like NYE came and went
>>64190576>Mori doesn't live in Japanwhat bait is this? Also Mori gets most of her shit through UMG not Cover.
>>64191390>hating last samurai is nijiseethe rumao
>>64190830>>64190833
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=buF_TtzS9SA>Met 3D live tomorrowI actually didn't know she had her 3D (re)debut yet.What we thinking? 30k possible?
>>64191451I see alot of grays in chatIts good for farming subs
>>64191436EN is perfect as it is, you should go watch your niji organs sis, they need the help now that EN wont let them leech
>>6419148330k Z'ed to 60k
>>64191229VCRfags are VCRfags. Aki quickly slid back to the bottom of the pile with their ARK server ending.
>>64191432ENcuck deflectionEN is not hololive, never will be
>>64190576>MoriShe definitely has a foothold in Japan, she lives there more than in the US
>>64191483the Z alone will be 30k+
>>64191446I wonder if you'll say the same thing if they interact with the homos.
Miko go do the poll shit so that we can see how many passed by your stream
>>64190839>GuraOn the first point yeah, I agree that there is really just one superstar, and Gura having a long hiatus is not her own problem to solve, they need someone to shoulder her burden in EN.>MoriShe is hardworking and too ahead of her times for her own good. She knew that if hololive as a brand need to incline in the west, she needs to approach people outside of hololive, basically having a foot in the door toward the undiscovered blue sea. But alas, fans were not ready for that. She is still correct and her collab numbers speak for themselves.>Kronii and FaunaBoth of them did nothing but coast after the first month. Kronii would have her strong floor if not for her fuck ups. Fauna only inclines because the box has no where else to go. Again all of their content are as safe as possible. None of them were trying to do something new.>FWMCDebuff contents are there to test their floor, and on top of that they are genuinely interested in the content, which is rare and should be celebrated nontheless. What they need is to develop a better gaming skill, and some gimmick streams every week or 2 to keep people interested and encourage clippers to clip them.>IronmouseI would like to mention that she is our queen just to rile some people up, but I should refrain from doing that in this serious discussion. She was part of the old guards and is maintaining her numbers pretty well, I will give her that, but there really isn't that many ways to incline as a twitch streamers, except for drama.>FiliansNah. Streaming is what keeps a vtuber alive as a brand.>Vedal/NeuroIt is just a chatbot, people put it in their background and most others just watch her clips.>LuxiemLet's be honest they have a lot of antis, even among the female viewers. They are destined to fall.Actually I realized that after typing all these, I realized that those are just unnecessary words because it all boils down to>JUST DEBUT MORE CHARISMATIC AND ENTERTAINING VTUBERS LMAO
>>64191501>>64191477NIJISEETHE
>>64190839>Previously Luxiem used to rival Gura for certain streamsThe fuck? They were at best competing with Mumei
>>6419148360k floor
>>64191508
If a CGDCT holo joined Asmongoloid or Sodapoppins hardcore wow guilds would you be angry or supportive?
>>64190819
I see that Saturday night in glorious Nippon has brought out the very best anons to seethe.
>>64191552Reminder that this schizo is Indonesian, so they can only resort to spamming English text from the textfile they've saved. Truly sad.
>>64191456knowing cover yagoo the homolover staff they will definitely get new outfit, those 2 grifters fucked everything up
>>64191535>She is hardworking and too ahead of her times for her own good. She knew that if hololive as a brand need to incline in the west, she needs to approach people outside of hololive, basically having a foot in the door toward the undiscovered blue sea. But alas, fans were not ready for that. She is still correct and her collab numbers speak for themselves.Retardbeat hands typed this drivel
>>64191528yes; she'll say "they already interacted with male celebs, did you really think they wouldn't collab with the stars?"
>>64191562Their karaokes had like 5x+ their normal numbersGranted the graphs looked suspicious as fuck
>>64191570it's only acceptable when JP holos do it
>>64191465>>64191525She is staying in Japan but I don't think that is her permanent residence. Case still in point that none other made this effort.
>>64191570Stop taking surveys /here/ Inter-kun
>>64191591>sister runs out of arguments>proceeds to make shit upkek keep dancing for us nijinigger
>>64191535>MoriShe wasn't wrong but she chose one of the worst group of outsiders that she could, with two of them acting resentful towards Hololive on stream.
>>64191570>p-please talk about my cuck fantasies
>>64191570Total flesh streamer death
I honestly am getting triggered by the vertical streams where members are begging for subs. Like just today I saw Kanade have a constant popup on hers to subscribe, Yoshika has had her verticals show her subcount, Miko has her subs showingIt’s 1 single day of its existence in the vtuber field and people are already numberwhoring and metagaming it
>>64191535>>FWMC>What they need is to develop a better gaming skill,It actually baffles me over how bad they are at some stuff seeing their passion for games. Korone aint got nothing on their passion/lack of gaming skill combination
>>64191628>She wasn't wrong but she chose one of the worst group of outsiders that she couldIf you were Mori, who would you choose instead?
>>64191627>gets called out>resorts to buzzwordsSad!
>>64191663keeps seething sister you lost
>>64190819>SEA>homolover>shit opinionsof course
>>64190854Anon? She unironically showed this on stream>pic relatedstream is still up there if you want to check
>>64191672EN is inclining. I've never been happier.
50k VCR GTA debut or bust
>>64191614Fucking lol. When was last time JP had any influence on EN? Early 2022?
>>64191702>caring about VCR GTAWrong thread splitfag
Miko dropped my hand after getting 1.9m. Anons, is this how it feels being used just for sex?
Migo 1.9M GETTO!>She let go of my hand the moment she reached her goalIm kinda heart broken a little KEK!
>>64190833it's over just like that huh? such a shame
>>64191702>jfif.jpg
>>64191650It's not the covid era anymore, anon. Being proactive now helps keep their numbers up in a year or two+.
>>64191650holos do it because they can get their 1 mill wish faster
>>64191634japanese flesh streamers are fine. the SF6 training arc and the VCR servers have all been kino so far. i'm looking forward to the next VCR GTA event.
>>64190833unsubbed, this is why gatekeeping is important
I can feel and smell Migo's breath
This short stream thing is fucking vile, it have incredible algo power, Miko been camping on my recommendation page despite me spending the last 20 minutes trying to see if I can force her out
>>64191615>but I don't think that is her permanent residenceI don't think EITHER are her permanent residences. She is >and I say this without any hint of ironyan international star now, she has lots of commitments that require her to be sometimes stateside, sometimes in Japan
>>64191773Post your beggar fantasies elsewhere nijinig
fuwamoco encourage their fans to buy ccv bots
>ITT: anons pretending to care about regloss one way or another
>>64191657It's hard to say when there's so many ironic fags in the western streaming scene that makes it hard to actually try to expand to an audience that might genuinely enjoy vtubers, but the TT fags would still be very low on that list with only awful creatures such as xQc and Hasan being below them (funnily enough they actually had the latter in their podcast).
>>64191773Tell me you are EOP without telling me you are EOP. Nice try last samurai.
>>64191791Now I want Gooba stream with this
>Holobegging streams are a thing nowThis is not Idol behavior
>>64191773These are the anons were ran off the the JP split just because Gura cunny was posted lmao
>>64191797And it is all due to her own hard work, and a little bit (a lot) of connections. Kiara wish she was Mori.
>>64191841show me one EN moment that compares to thishttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K5h0wTrENRg
>>64191841>anon falseflags>anon bites many such cases!
>>64191657>>64191836I genuinely can't think of a western internet personality that I'd tolerate. I've been avoiding all of them for years.
>>64190833NOTHIS IS NOT HAPPENINGSAVIORFAG YOUR RIRKA
>>64191650u no like?
>>64191871The entire streamhttps://youtu.be/fkSc8zoA9TA
>>64191871>Links clip
>>64191849She's better than that
>>64191878this is why you stick to JP. much better environment with better people.
>>64191834i watch ao, sadly i will not watch the VCR because i hate RP + game streams
>>64191849Would be impossible to push out of the algoI have to resort to Shounen, K-pop and Homestuck combined just now to defeat Miko, if Gura do it I fear only Mr.Beast can defeat her
>>64191836>It's hard to say when there's so many ironic fags in the western streaming scenePersonally disagree but I will give you that so we can move on to the next question: do you think you can choose a better collab partner than Mori back in the days?
Filian 2mil subs had Miko begging on the cold street like a NewYork bum, gotta meet the quota by the end of the year. the corpo pressure is real.
>>64191834It's pretty funny. But soon Re_flop will be huge success on the EN market. Two more weeks and few more Homo collabs.
>>64191871>jpkek is a clipnigkek
>>64191508You're in the wrong thread, brownboy: >>64189418
>>64191869>And it is all due to her own hard work, and a little bit (a lot) of connections. Connections are hard work too>Kiara wish she was Mori.I doubt. Kiara (and notKiara) has been in this entertainment world for longer than most people in this thread even grew facial hair, she knows what it takes to succeed and NEVER EVER EVER made any movement in that direction.Actually, she tried every single shortcut and it ALWAYS blew in her face
>>64191853Idols have distributed flyers and begged in the streets to watch their shows. Sub-begging seems to be in line with that practice.
>>64190819It's funny that sisters think Cover is the reason why dumb and dumber didn't do a graduation stream.
>>64191915gura has no algo pull any more. she's actually a debuff going by her 3D live appearances and that flop song with marine.
>Copying Miko in record time
>>64191841>>64191871>>64191928>t.nijisisters
>>64191853Anon? One of the hallmarks of idol activities is "outreach", sometimes they literally do impromptu evens in town squares and ask people to buy their albums / attend their events
>>64191953Hey anon you should check the most replayed part of Marine’s 3D live!
i dont know why but theres a sudden rise in homo begging during yuro hours
>halschizo begging for (You)srumao
>>64191871I don't get it, what was supposed to be so great about this?
>>64191909You know, from what I've seen of Japanese e-celebs, I really doubt it
>>64191955Japanese vtubing just feels so soulless these days.
>>64191404This send shivers down my spine
>>64191915Yup, its too powerfulI saw alot of grays on Migo's short stream>Just like WWE buffs but without massive ccm
>>64190833I would like to thank Ririka and Ao for proving me right about holding out on supporting Regloss.
HOLY FUCK!>there is really an anon so new he doesn't know about Haachama's R-18 streamsHOW THE FUCK IS THIS EVEN POSSIBLE?
>>64191570it will complete the holy trinity
>>64191871I genuinely think that when you take a holo away from her cute girl environment you realize it's just another woman. What a horrible thing to do, like putting some majestic multi scaled fish in a bucket
>>64191921No collab partner is better than just TT and no a single other outsider in over 3 years, but I do think it's possible to find people who would actually help expand the brand in a healthy way and not invite a bunch of ironic fags who don't watch streams.
>>64191931>she knows what it takes to succeedI doubt, because as you said>she tried every single shortcut She probably still thinks she can do it another way.
>>64192009I have never subbed nor watch them>I only care about true hololive girls
>>64191886This is the next suggested short to me as well after migo ended.
Peko VCR soon
>>64192019Should be Shiori and Rissa there.
>>64191982But that’s Bae, her dancing is making her incline
goldbridge 70k and rising
>>64191989All the anons you see in the JP# thread, are most active at this hour. During EN hours they're drowned out by saplings and EN posting, during JP hours its the same, but with actual JP fans and residual EN posters
>>64191156this is why they deliberately hamstrung regloss; now they'll be receptive to management's ideas for growth. I unsubbed from all of them.
>>64192067What are Shiorin and Rissa looking at?
>>64192027>No collab partner is better than just TTSo yeah, thanks for confirming. Mori make the most logical decision that have the most potential to incline hololive outside the box and the least potential for it to end badly.
>>64192067>shiori and nerissa ninjalooting and roaching out in wow hc>asmongoloid watching clips of it and acting like a proud fatherkino
>>64192009I did sub to Kanade, but havent watched her much.
>>64192091>Bou score a 3rd goal right when this was posted.
[FUN FACT]Ririka vertical stream increased over time.Yesterday she got 1.9k and now she has 4K CCV.Also both stream gain her 3k subs/stream totaled 6k i
>>64192027>but I do think it's possible to find people who would actually help expand the brandAnon, the proof is in the pudding here, just mention a single name in the whole western streaming / content creation sphere that people would go>eh, that could workSaid name must qualify in two ways1) it must not be "polemic" in any way: politics, behaviour, preferred topics2) it must not be a midget with more to gain from leeching from Hololive than to offerI genuinely can't think of any. No, wait, I can think of one>I could see a HoloEN - Tom Scott collaborationbut I don't think ANY of the HoloEN girls dabble in "sciency" topics to warrant such collaboration.Other than that, I'm drawing a blank here
>>64192015Influx of newfags during advent debut where haachama was inactive.
>>64191570I would love to see FWMC collab with Asmongold. Let's be honest, even the CGDCT crowds wouldn't complain about such a collab because Asmongold is huge.
>>641921361 was on a weekday, the other in the weekend. might make a difference, no?
>>64190833She was my favorite regloss too. What a shame.
>>64192136she got pushed by Algo
HoloEN - Nicocado collab is the way to go.
>>64192136nigga she had 2 vert streams with over 3k peak. This one was 4k, which can easily just be the time of day, the lack of competition and other factors. What is this retardation
>>64190920So the vtubers themselves had to have noticed this by now, right? What do they even think of it? the actual narrative behind the bots (some schizo is trying to shit on a random thread in 4chan that tracks numbers) is so obscure and unrelated to any of the popular vtuber narratives like parasocial fans or whatever that I'm not even sure the vtubers themselves would think. How would you even explain this situation? Imagine if Selen wants to brag about the numbers for this event but now she can't because the graph is sus to even a casual viewer.
>>64192166has a huge dick yeah
>you need muh ecelebs for growthJust another homobegger angle spliced in with JPfags coping about how HoloJP is doing itI literally see no incline for HoloJP from eceleb shittery btw, but that's masked about how they're always on the rise so its easy for people to act like this shit is the cause
>>64192217If the faggots in r/virtualyoutubers know about it, you can assume management would as well.
>>64192043I follow her career from way before she debuted on HoloEN, she reminds me a little bit of Dick Dastardly, from the Wacky Race.In SEVERAL occasions (like Dastardly) she was ahead in the race and could just cruise to victory, but then she decided to take a shortcut / do something to get a bigger advantage and fumbled it.As an example, I offer her current Kiara incarnation. She has a VERY FUCKING PLEASANT VOICE, you can hear than when she did her Twitter Spaces (likely with a different mic setting) but she absolutely refuses to fix that for her live streams and it holds her back tremendously for three years now.Likewise, she can be very entertaining when she picks a decent game or subject for talk but she ALWAYS retreats to talking about herself and her IRL escapades and nobody body the current crop of KFP yes-men wants to hear about that.
>>64192166Shut up nigger, I fucking hate asmongoloid
>>64192249HoloJP is more well known in japanese streaming while HoloEN is insular as fuck
>>64192159Do you remember Nick Pitera? I don't think he's been on youtube for a long time but someone like that would have been ok.
>>64192286>HoloEN is insular as fuckBASED BASED BASED
>>64192217>How would you even explain this situation?>>64191567
>>64192115>least potential for it to end badlyDo we live in the same reality? It ended horribly with her cutting all interaction with TT as Mori after that Welsh fag couldn't stop himself from resentful that the Hololive audience will give more importance to new Holo debuts than some random 2view indie and the hafu's 10-minute rant about Nene on Playboy that ended up being posted as a clip on their channel.>>64192159>but I don't think ANY of the HoloEN girls dabble in "sciency" topics to warrant such collaboration.Unironically Shiori.
>>64192113Me
>>64192205I can't wait for Fauna and Nicocado offcollabs mukbang - 100 beef burgers without the patties covered with fried bacons and panko.
>>64192274>(likely with a different mic setting)She could just get a new mic, drop the chicken voice at the same time and blame the change on the mic. No one would complain or think too much of it.
>>64192091MMMM THE SEETHE. AAAAHHH. DELICIOUS
>>64192217Youtube probably gives them more specific(/correct) graphs, numbers with the suspected number of bots separated or some shit. Intern-kun please confirm.
>>64192286>HoloEN is insular as fuckAnd that's a good thing.
>>64192286Yes and? How did this place go from>god I love how these girls give something the rest of the market doesn't, this is what we need in streamingto>well actually scratch that, please whore yourselves out to the ecelebs it's not enough for me that you dominate the vtuber market because Ironmouse is also around and she gets eceleb attention
>>64192324>pankooh no wonder, the homobeggar was a phasefag
>>64192159The yogscast
>>64192286holoEN is completely irrelevant. ironmouse alone mogs all of them combined.
>>64192321>Do we live in the same reality?Yes we do, but the difference is that you have a 20/20 hindsight.
>>64192297Anon, he's past his prime by at least some six years. That's part of my general point>nobody can point out anyone in the north american and western scene that 1) would be acceptable and 2) wouldn't be a leechI could EASILY see an Ina-Bob Ross collab but, sadly, they would require a necromancer and .... yeah .... Hololive is one short right now
>>64192286Good, and long may it stay that way.
>>64192286>HoloEN is insular as fuckCongrats you've stumbled upon HoloEN's appeal and niche.You are literally being a suit right now>yes yes we seem to be doing great with our product>NOW MAKE IT APPEAL TO EVERYONERetards like you almost sank HoloEN with the homo shit.
>>64190833Unsubbed, Fuck I had just warmed up to her and started watching the past 2 weeks. Fucking shame
The walled garden was one of the best things to happen to Holo, even if it was from the necessity of the rest of the industry turning their back on them, and it really helped build up the close-knit feeling of the fanbase and streamers. I'm sad it's getting less and less prevalent, especially in JP, these days.
>>64192382BASED BASED BASEDIM ZASED
>>64192367Its the the IMfag and probably one of the nijinigs from the split crying over EN again
>>64192342Anon, bots and other fuckery get filtered out yea. That sort of stuff gets snuffed out, and its reflected in the CCV as well (view-botting is different than CCV botting, and tends to get around the automated systems by using some degree of human action). So yea, they're definitely aware, but they've also probably been told not to worry about it.
>>64192274The chicken voice is basically her trademark and her charm point now, if you can believe it. Also she knew what people want to watch and what people don't want to watch, and yet still stream garbage during garbage hour, so I will give you that.
>>64192388My 20/20 hindsight is knowing that TT was a podcast full of Japan-hating ironic weebs before HoloEN was even a thing but I guess inviting these fags' audience was a completely sound idea.
>>64192286>HoloEN is insularThat's exactly the reason I watch them. If I wanted anything else, I would watch something else. Not unsurprising a beggar like you can't see it though.
>>64192381Dead for years and years.
>>64192427I dunno how brains fried /here/ and suddenly it's>WE NEED ASMONGOLD AND XQC AND CHARLIE TO COLLAB WITH FWMC NOW
>>64192395>Anon, he's past his prime by at least some six yearsyeah me too... I only watch old men using machine tools now so I don't know anyone popular but there must be someone inoffensive out there
>>64192321>Unironically Shiori.Anon, Tom Scott doesn't deal with "pop science" or "I love science, I watched Big Bang Theory!", he usually deals with serious science subjects and even when not, having a "dumb anime girl" as his partner would be a detriment for both>>64192381>The yogscastLITERALLY streaming right now something that would fail "1) it must not be "polemic" in any way: politics, behaviour, preferred topics"
>>64192419just go watch some 3view gfe chuubas
Please Kiara, don't put that t-shirt on.
>>64192406what appeal? they regularly get mogged by vshojo and twitch indies.
>>64192019Asmon is already taken, find your own maleshttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=anBWKALlmf4
>>64192419That is just a cope. Pekora did a lot of outside collab. Her fans and the circle of creators don't love her less because of that.
>>64192286>HoloEN is insular as fuckand that's exactly what we want, we don't really want them to grow and end up like IM
>>64192043That's the reason why Kiara wouldn't want to be Mori. Kiara want to be popular in the fashion that she choose for herself. She could perform much better by following a lot of trends and FOTM, but she instead want to become popular in her own way.Which isn't really succesful, but It's something I can understand.
>>64192466I wanna see a shiori+vsauce collab.
I never heard of these guys before but they look like absolute faggots. hard pass.
>>64192466>. I only watch old men using machine tools now kek, the "other" rabbit hole got you too? I don't even own a car but somehow youtube started suggesting "blokes explaining / fixing engines" and I'm a goner, constantly watching this sort of videos.
>>64192455>TT was a podcast full of Japan-hating ironic weebsCan you give me an example? Also who would you rather collab with, non holo of course, if you were Mori?
>>64192499Don't you have anything better to do with your life? That shit was even a non sequitur, are you a bot?
>>64192502>Pekora did a lot of outside collabHow many in 2023?
>>64192486>>64192533>yogscast>1kNever let any schizo claim holoEN isnt doing well in the EN streaming market
>lived to see /#/ become eceleb beggers because Ironmouse won some shitty award no one cares about
>>64191570>WoW
I think holoen should collab with my flesh oshi gorgc.
>>64192419They don't need walled garden anymore. Some of the members like towa, matsuri and laplus are more interested in external collabs instead of internal collabs. This era of CDGCT is kind of over, that feeling of Hololive being the all girls highschool group has ended.
*FINAL EN COPE TALLY OF THE DAY IS IN*>12/09 TALLY (1.000 - 4.999)4.315: Bettel (Holostars) | Party Animals w/ Tempus VG & Armis3.943: Pomu (Nijisanji) | Fortnite3.255: Luca (Nijisanji) | Post-Cover Chatting3.051: Elira (Nijisanji) | Honkai: Star Rail2.959: Doppio (Nijisanji) | Handcam Stream2.710: Ike (Nijisanji) | Just Chatting2.651: Selen (Nijisanji) | Fortnite2.537: Axel (Holostars) | Just Chatting2.134: Maria (Nijisanji) | Karaoke Stream2.151: Octavio (Holostars) | Party Animals w/ Armis & Tempus VG2.094: Reimu (Nijisanji) | Super Mario Bros. Wonder Zuttoღo Collab1.890: Sonny (Nijisanji) | Super Mario RPG1.801: Meloco (Nijisanji) | Just Chatting1.656: Kotoka (Nijisanji) | Karaoke Stream1.638: Octavio (Holostars) | Unarchived Karaoke Rebroadcast1.512: Vantacrow (Nijisanji) | Pokémon Scarlet1.225: Alban (Nijisanji) | Apex Legends1.117: Uki (Nijisanji) | Minecraft1.059: Shinri (Holostars) | Just Chatting1.038: Vantacrow (Nijisanji) | Phogs! w/ Kyo
>>64192600Its euro hours, what do you expect?
what about Colin Furze? I'd watch a holo collab with Colin Furze. Is PhotonicInduction still alive?
>>641925703
How did you guys land on this topic again
>>64192542Why the fuck you're always coming back to "who would you collab with then"? Are you some TT fan who's hurt that I called your fags "ironic weebs"? Gonna justify the Welsh faggot's rant about new Holo debuts getting "undeserved" attention? Jesus, I'm starting to think that you "down the walled garden" types jerk off to the mere idea of a Holo collabing with fucking Hasan.
HoloEN should collab with Joe Biden and Donald Trump. The presidential race will 100% incline the branch. I am expecting 1M ccv no less if the collab ever happen.
>>64192533How the times change...Tom's good though.
>>64192502Anon, Pekora is the worst example you can use, even until now she still only have like 6 outside collabs? (If you base on number of streams) She is barely the JP with most number of outside collab
>>64192606He needs to win a TI first
so out of all the holos joining vcr who can honestly incline from it?Botan, Ao, Ririka, Mel, Aki, Matsuri, LaplusTowa likely won't join
>>64192654If we're going that way, how about Styropyro?
>>64192662Nijinigs from the split got told to go back, so they decided to shit up the thread instead
>>64192645It was happening in JP hours too
>>64191849Gura isn't a numberwhore, she would stay far away when she finds out it pushes you in the algorithm.
>>64192600The future of EN is for Ironmouse, the award is just the start
>>64192613Then make it end faster so I can finally have an excuse to drop this hobby and never go back to this garbage board.
>>64192600Anon, people are discussing the exact OPPOSITE of that, that there is nobody in the whole western scene that would be a good fit for HoloEN and, hence, they're better off alone>>64192592>Never let any schizo claim holoEN isnt doing well in the EN streaming marketAny Fauna, Mumei or FWMC 10k outranks pretty much the ENTIRE western streaming scene except for some very exceptional cases, SPECIALLY given the fact they're doing it on Youtube of all places
What a wild world where 90% of you fumed out the mouth over TT yet are now sucking the cocks of ecelebs...
>>64192667>Are you some TT fanNo I just want you to give a concrete name other than TT that Mori should collab with instead of TT.
>>64192600Yeah man, this thread during even Luxiem’s peak was better than this shit we have now. Where the fuck is my holobros and where the fuck are the shitposters with above room temperature iq……
>>64192662Schizos like to repeat topics over and over again
>>64192701There's a solution to this problem.
>>64192689None, they all will fall back to their usual numbers after the bump.> But muh akiArchive reps
>>64192659Three doesn't seem like "a lot" for someone that had 317 streams between Jan 1st and Nov 30th.
>>64192645>>64192701Are there any regions that have overlap in the weekends with both JP and Euro hours?
stfu and listen to my Yoshika's singing streamhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sd7jbfj0A5g
>>64192683She is in fact the best example. People always had an illusion that sankisei never did outside collab and attribute their incline to the wall garden, No matter how many collabs she did, the fact is that the wall garden is not there anymore and she is still inclining in spite of that. This proved that wall garden helping the holos is just pure bullshit.
IRyS should spam shorts streams and beat Mumei to 1 million.
>>64192731And the funniest thing is that, JP have never close off completely to outside collab, the like of Suisei, Towa, Matsuri, etc still does outside collab all the time even in 2021 and 2022So the spergout that only happen NOW seem very dishonest
>>64192731I am the representative of /#/, we like e-celebs nowAlso we are trans now too btw
>>64192450She has 3-4k diehards and a tiny bit of tourist traffic that will come through if nobody else is streaming. She's not charming anybody.
>>64192703Gura is just jaded that no one cares about you unless they are tryna leech.
>>64192533They were absolutely huge when Minecraft multiplayer was released, but poor game and brand management tanked them hard. Even a channel that had 7 million subs back 10+ years ago can tank themselves with bad choices. Vtubers need to make smart choices.
>>64192736I don't have any because they're either not big enough to help grow Hololive or completely divorced from the same sphere Hololive is and that still doesn't justify collabing with TT when they brought fuck all to the table outside of unironic beggars.
>>64192731Anon, people are discussing the exact OPPOSITE of that, that there is nobody in the whole western scene that would be a good fit for HoloEN and, hence, they're better off alone
>>64192731As I said, Mori was too ahead of the time for her own good. She did the right thing.
>>64192731tldr?
>>64192533They were pretty fun before they started appealing to children. I’ll still watch Sips streams occasionally.
>>64192601>he wouldnt join the guild run by his oshi and then fight a mak'gora for a raid spot so you can princess carry your oshi through the raidgay
>>64192798Do you know why? Because she still mostly stay within the boxI mean like cmon now, even in those sponsored Minecraft event, she is still in a full Holo team. In the first place using only her as example already seem dishonest
>>64192847>tldr?Here is the best I can give you>anons are saying "there is no eceleb in the western scene worthy of collabing with HoloEN" and anons are pretending people are saying the opposite
>>64192817>3-4k diehards>She's not charming anybody?
>>64192847
>>64192533i member...
Goldbridge 90k DORYAAAAAA
Welp, my wife is ready to work now.
picrel would be a good fit for an off collab, preferably once a week
>>64192827Well pretty much I can say that TT was the only choice Mori had back then and that's it.
surely they don't think they're blending in right?
>>64192009I blocked them all on debut and I’m so glad I didNever get close to girls who Cover has basically designated as whores
>>64192792I wonder who that could be...
>All these flesh e-celeb worshipperMy oshi are Reimu and Marisa
>>64192829Vinny is the closest one and he would only work with like 3 of the girls
This thread become more dum dum
hey relating to numbers, these guys were huge, always on 'front page' until youtube softbanned organizations/agency - same thing is or might start happening to hololive and other big vtuber corpos in the future.
>>64192883Why larp as if the argument you're bringing forth is the only one being stated? It's not "anons", it's fucking you.Don't pretend /#/ hasn't been under siege by both JPnigs and IMfag about how EN should totes break the walled garden, it sucks, they should do the IM thing and attach themselves to some bigger male and trade away all fans love about them
>>64192912Sorry for your loss Ririka fag….
>>64192073
I hate HomostarI hate WokeSanjiI hate VwhorejoAnd I will never watch themHeil Hololive888888888888888888
>>64191955Eh, these are just trends t bh
>>64192947Ofcourse, how could I not have known? Except I did.
>>64192963That's because I'm looking for new cunny pics and not really posting here.
>>64192965Hololive is already softbanned
>>64192671I legit would like this to happen, probably as a moderator of the debate. It will definitely expose hololive to more people and 1M ccv is not a dream.
>>64192970
>>64191404Fuck man, that's cute
Reminder that only reason anyone wants HoloEN to collab with ecelebs is out of spite and wanting to kill HoloEN because they don't pander to them. Beggars don't want unity, they want HoloEN GONE.
>>64193022Confusing post. Nijiniggers especially would love if HoloEN came down to their level, after all they had sucked eceleb cock since the very start it's just that ecelebs wanted prettier whores
>>64192600>Ironmouse won some shitty award no one cares aboutIt is funny that you don't care about the award but keep mentioning it anyway. More importantly, it actually make some people seethe.
>>64192970This shit isn’t even new, this thread turned to shit since the homos debut and people riding them to shit on Nijishits. This thread got replaced by actual number fags with “people” that want frequent change.
>>64193042Everyone knows this but anons are being exploited in a vulnerable time because:HoloJP is doing it so anons have to defend them.IM won some award so now some weak pure numberfags crave this.A bunch of eceleb collabing whores was literally what everyone feared HoloEN would be before debut, it's hilarious to see people now arguing its what they should become.
Most of the content creators I enjoy stay away from other content creators and do their own thing. RLM doesn’t fuck with other movie reviewers and at most will occasionally do a video with a minor Hollywood celebrity like McCauley Culkin.
>>64192970Walled garden? What walled garden? Is it something similar to invisible guns?
You bunch of retards remind me of when a lucub successfully gaslit anons into thinking wanting EN3=nijinig. If you are not a newfag you would remember this.
>>64191650Got to invest the kiddies watching shorts somehow so they stay longerWhat I really want is AZKi one
Pick your seat
>>64193080I...are you stupid? Yes I'm going to mention the award and its effects, how is that seething or how does that prove it was a relevant award? Cause it affected 3 retards in /#/?
Kiara don't go...
>>64193062>HoloJPnigs>HoloENnigsYou always reveal yourself, sister.
>>64192829they just ain't big enough for Messi or Ronaldo. Skill issue.
>>64193142ok but I still think no one would have been mad about colin furze so I win and TT is gay forever
>>64193154Between Taso, Sora and Peko. I'm gonna skip class if I get any other seat.
>>64193154>second last seat over the window is already takenI am not attending this class.
>>64193138Pretending to be retarded won't win you any arguments.
>>64192939That's like telling someone that they can only chose between shooting themselves or throwing themselves off a bridge. The interactions with TT only brought problems for her for an entire year until she finally stopped trying to convince people that those fags were remotely decent and stopped bringing them up altogether as Mori, but by then the damage was already done and a huge contingent of the future beggars were "fans" who came from the TT podcast.
>JPnigs viciously defending male fleshbag collabs and mixed streamer serversHow did it come to this?
>>64193120>it's hilarious to see people now arguing its what they should become.Anon you've been overtaken by your own delusions.
>>64193199Ah yes because there's definitely absolutely no tribalism coming from JP fags in these threads. All nijiniggers. I've never even heard of /hlg/ actually! Probably a nijinigger psyop
>>64193217Pretending that holoEN stagnated because of no outside collabs won't make you win any argument either.
>>64193129Yeah same, idk what’s the fucking appeal. My only fav fleshstreamer literally told raid beggars that they already knew who his friends were but they didn’t watch them unless he was streaming with them so what’s the point.
>>64193222One of the funniest things is that they are her PERSONAL IRL FRIENDS and, yet, the level of respect they gave to her career choice was not even zero, it was negative.They treat the wife of one of the TT retards with more deference and she's a fucking sex worker, work an Onlyfans and a career or reviewing sex toys.Mori surely can pick her friends...
>>64193222Did the TT crowd murdered your father or something?
I think the world would be a better place if I could push my face between Shiori's thighs
>>64193261What? You are literally arguing with someone stating the opposite, you fucking schizo turn off friendly fire and learn to be useful to the side you're arguing for
>>64193154Between gura, marine, peko and Kanata
>>64193154First row far right
English e celebs who are safe for holoen to collab: forsen, gorgc, tenz, s1mple, aceu and iceiceice. All approved by me.
>>64193154between aqua and Iroha
>>64193378>westoid trash>safe
>>64193154Behind aqua so I can cum in her hair
>>64193378Northernlion too
>>64193154>Gura to the left, I can pretend to look out the window all day>Pekora in front so I can peak over her and look at her tiny titties>unicorn princess to my right to faun over>Marine behind me so she can bully me Easy choice
>>64193312Condoms for Connor sis
>>64193378Am I getting too old if I don't know ANY of these five, and only know the name "forsen" from hearing it in this thread?
>>64193378Forsen would never stoop that low to collab with some e-whores pretending they are some anime characters.
>>64193305Yeah, I really want to know what the fuck went on that hafu's head when he shit talked one of her coworkers for 10 fucking minutes. I know he's a massive nijifag but being an open tribalist when you're friends with someone from the competing company is a level of retardation that I didn't know was possible.
>>64193154Between akutan and gotalu, the 3 of us can be quiet together.
>>64193305Mori is an autist and will always attract people looking to take advantage of her. It’s kind of a problem for most of the HoloEN girls and why they were smart enough to mostly break off ties from their RM’s peers. Even Shiori, despite the fear she’d collab with her 1-view nobodies turned into nothing once they turned in her for daring to find success without them.
>surely today these ENcels will learn to be cucks and love ecelebs if I go full schizo and spam enough
Hololive losing its mindshare in EN this fast is actually worrying.
>>64193473don't worry, they have a dedicated botter to fool the investors with fake numbers
How can EN incline while staying insular?
I know Gura sure missed the chance of a lifetime by ignoring Callmecarson
>>64193378I literally don’t know any of them. I only know Forsen name and that he sits motionless all day watching react videos that’s it
>>64192794>This songUltra based
>>64193469You have been spamming on cooldown repeating the same thing over and over again, you should stop now.
>>64193473it lost its mindshare years ago, council was the sharpest drop, and shitshojo by virtue of being twitch became the shart standard.
>>64193489This is what the last samurai jerk off to these days.
>>64193418Excluding tenz, everyone is older streamers than vtubers.
>>64193418When it comes to internet personalities I know like Spoony and AVGN and the Yogscast, that’s how far back I have to go to be familiar with these people. Today I just watch Food Wishes and Townsends and Baumgarner Restoration.
>>64193489Funny part is she didn’t incline from collabing with him. She inclined by herself and her reward was that co collab
Holo EN is doing better than last year. Is everyone in this thread pretending to be dumb today?
>>64193524non shitposting answer, debut more to reach critical body count for a self sustaining box. that's what holojp did, outside collab dropped significantly since gen 4 debut.
>>64193378qrd? Are they from England or something? I've never heard of them.
>>64193436>shit talkedqrd?
>>64193260Holo vs Holo won't be tolerated, sister.
Chumbuds…
>>64193599Forsen was a really good entertainer. What you are seeing right now is basically him soft retiring, like Gura.
>>64193669BASED
>>64193436Unironically, they fell for the same meme Hana Macchia fell and more or less contemporaneously.>pic relatedBack in mid 2020 there was an ongoing meme that ended up shaping the whole "Twitch vs. Hololive" perception back thenhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vazl5U86uaQFrom that point on it was established that Hololive as a form of entertainment was "superior" to what was being offered by the then current crop of Twitch women>correctly, if you as meand a lot of people lashed out at the comparison.Hana Macchia not long after did her "vtubers are just e-girls" career destroying tweet and it is natural that those TT retards, being 100% coomers and involved with the exact brand of twitch thot being lambasted in said comparisons, would come down hard against the Holo girls.
>>64193620Theyve been sperging out for days. Please forgive them. They having nothing else in their life
>>64193599But nah, EN HAS to collab with shitty ecelebs if they want to incline.>>64193636Nene was included on some Playboy list that wasn't about vtubers and the animeman went on a 10 minute rant about it.
>>64193524this >>64193625Hope a few of them make it big in the meantime, which means getting good talent *cough* beryl *cough* and talent that might break out into the mainstream. That means NOT purely numberfagging as they did with Shiori, who's sub numbers were artificial.
>>64193596>Baumgarner Restoration.ABSOLUTELY PATRICIAN
>>64193625So around 28 holos? 2-3 more gens.
>>64193631Holoen will have to beg for collabs became they don't collab with females on stream.
>>64193312Trash Taste fans permanently ruined anime discussion on the internet, like Critical Role did to D&D
>>64193620>Holo EN is doing better than last yearthat's because of the new gen debut retard
>>64193686>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vazl5U86uaQI have a similar one to show youhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r246NXXBslk
>>64193620You know why? Because we have EN3. You remember what we had last year? Nothing, andwhole lots of homo "hype."
I will take a Townsends-Gura cooking stream.
Ririka is directly communicating with and reassuring the unicorns in her chat that while there are parts she's excited for there are aspects she's anxious about for the VCR GTA thing, because she understands their feelings, and is promising that she won't do anything to betray them. And the chat is the a positive mix of gentle teasing and honest support as usual, including the people sending messages, so things seem good on that front for now.
>>64193749And like holoEN fans ruining vtuber discussion.
>>64193755Sounds like EN should grow at its original pace and stop wasting time on western faggots and homos. Glad we agree!
>>64193473tonight's 3D stream probably won't even hit 30k. rough days for holoEN
>>64193792SO true sister let’s go back to the doxxsite and chat some more there
>>64193792
>>64193778I want to see Gura collab with Aquaman on the big screen.
I think Shiori should do a collab stream with one of these cosplay piano playersRu's Piano is even a chuuba from what I remember
>>64193708>and the animeman went on a 10 minute rant about it.WORSE! He pulled a "reverse last samurai">last cowboy?and said something to the effect of>AND ONLY IN JAPAN SUCH THING WOULD HAPPENonly to have shoved in his face that the US Playboy Magazine had Margie Simpson as their centerfold >in TWO THOUSAND AND FUCKING NINE!making him an even bigger idiot
>>64193755So advent are actually doing their job. Great. Promise, take notes.
>>64193782That's how it always is, people who care just leave quietly.
>>64193778
>>64193756Enna is being performative and insincere.
The twitter lesbians are on our sideThanks Nerissa for your service in drafting them into the HoloEN twitter army
>>64193473Don't worry about it, my fellow Hololive fan.If things ever get too bad, I have a plan to jumpstart their mindshare. I can't say much obviously, but let's say it involves Archduke Ferdinand and Ame's gun.So just sit back and enjoy streams, as you do.
>>64193154Aqua, goob and Marine
>still thinking anyone outside of japan gives a shit about Re_flop
>>64193883Cope. She is always truthful to her viewers.
>>64193741yes, or they can set up a box game ie mc and have someone start an interesting story arc like what pekomiko did. that requires dedication though and frankly i don't see anyone capable of that role so far.
>>64193782Anyone taking exception with her actions will just not show up for the next stream, "chat being supportive" is the only possible consequence
I only like giguk, the other two are just ironic weebs jumping in anime for the clout.
>>64193832I mean playboy had tomb raider in 99
>>64193749Anitubers in general have done that. At least with English speaking content there is no one knowledgeable about the craft of animation or storytelling that can give educated thesis’s on why something is good or bad. At least in the deluge of movie reviewers you can find people who actual movie making experience or at the very least knowledge of theory from whatever podunk film school they went to. Anime reviewing is just full of Nostalgia Critics and Cinemasins who have no fucking clue what they’re talking about
>>64193917Virgin, btw. 100%. Never had sex. Not even once, even though she had a boyfriend for years. Complete non-sexhaver.
>>64193782Does she give any explanation about why she is joining VCR in the first place?
>>64193940pic related
>>64193782Lucky that ReGloss is a separate branch, so they can try out shit like this without much pushback
>>64193378
>>64193889the only thing this fag gets right is that he prioritizes the holo girls. But on the other hand, fag is still clinging on council instead of promise
>>64193782>she understands their feelings, and is promising that she won't do anything to betray them. And the chat is the a positive mix of gentle teasing and honest support as usualKronii also got a lot of support from chat and only a small handful spoke up to tell her it was the wrong decision. One year later, her numbers are proof enough that most Kronies silently fucked off
>>64190920based
>>64193958Anal is not real sex, homo.
>>64193978VCR probably gave an invite to all Holos and homos and Cover likely influenced her to accept it.
>>64193840advent growth is still kinda disappointing. even though they beat promise easily, promise shouldn't be a benchmark for the new gen, the bar is not high at all
>>64193782Nah fuck her and fuck Re_flop I give this bitch a chance and she blew it,joining eceleb server for what?
>>64194019Advent is trying to make up the slack for the two year lull in EN.
>>64193958She is an Asian and a second generation immigrant. It is entirely possible especially when her aunt is a devout (read: crazy) Christian.
>>64193782As usual, the Japanese holos prove themselves to be 100% trustworthy.
>>64193892you're alone by yourself since they're too lazy to come to school
>>64194012Anal is 100% real sex exactly because I'm a homo, faggot.
>>64193919Welp, guess no choice but to wait for new gens to fill the body count.
>>64193978I can imagine the Re_Gloss management was probably pushing for it to a certain extent, but who knows. Guess we will see if any more of them end up joining.
>>64190801>per bottedjej, put shartmouse and a bunch of the nijis in there
>>64192798You retarded newfag, Sankisei literally do outside collab since debutSomeone should show you the ancient image of Sankisei collabing with Niji losing to Maimoto. They were doing that normally until the chinkout cause everyone to distance themselves from Hololive. Newfag often mistaken it was because of Hololive deliberately isolate themselves for some noble causeWhat they actually built was the funneling system, which created a group of audience who jump from Holo to Holo, and thus, create an audience who only watch Holo. It never have anything to do with "No outside collab"
>>64194019Vtubers, at least the western ones, will never experience the rate or growth Myth did unless they untap some market like China or something.
>>64194023for growth obv
>>64192019wrong fleshie
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yT2ety9RfIohttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Viaecc1InnQWhy is Nerizzler overlapping her senpai?
>>64193782I've been avoiding regloss because I have no idea who they're for. They have unicorns too? Go figure.
Aqua collab with apex pros like genburten when?I just want to see how she fares with or against pro players.
>>64193721Beryl is a nice singer to listen to but as a streamer she's kind of ass
>>64193978Kinda feels like Cover saw what Aki went through and are hoping it happens to all Holos that join. Complety missing the reason why Aki inclined so much in the first place. This past year it feels like management is pushing them to step out to gain an even bigger audience which, unfortunately, ends up being hostile to the already existing audience. Very much feels like theyre trying to get rid of their current audience
>>64194019They're streaming and didn't come in with minimal effort expecting to be another myth, so that's good enough for me.
Why is there such a psychotic urge for some anons that holos should collab with outsiders?
>>64194019Give them time. They are working hard fixing the damage to hololive that EN2 has done.
>>64191570i'd pretend celebrate here if its an EN
>>64194104Why care about someone who intentionally fucks over their career
>>64194133It's shitposters.
>>64193832Only in Japan could an online personality be an influencer... What an ignorant dumbass.
>>64194086I still don’t get why management waited a year to debut Council instead of the usual 6-month time period like they did with the JPs at the time. Myth’s success should’ve pushed them into aggressively expanding. Yet they did that with the homos. Like why are they so much more aggressive with a flailing market than one that absolutely should have steam left over for more growth?
>>64194019Too little, too late. Early next year would be the time to debut EN4 to keep that ball rolling but you know... See you in 2025.
>>64194121Sadly she aint qualified for EN4Mori is banned from Nepohiring
>>64194133holoJP does it regularly, so it must be fine.
>>64193945Nah, I agree that anitubers ruined anime but disagree on the reasonUp until 2014 (more or less) anitubers were nothing but "containment breakers" taking memes from the general community to youtube>lolis? UOHHH ToT>incest? More like "wincest", amirite?Two things changed (in a great way due to the first adpocalypse)1) the current western cultural orthodoxy more or less in 2015 started to change into what is called today the "cancel culture" where anyone even moderately successful would have their every public word scrutinized and ANYTHING that was perceived as a slight would be reported, amplified and, as a result, the person at the crosshairs would be hard pressed to find anyone willing to sponsor or even hire them2) Companies like Crunchyroll, Netflix and Kadokawa noticed that anime was actually popular in the west despite most of the support and localization coming from fansubs, fandubs and piracy in general and moved in to make it all "kosher".As a result, one of the things they did was to elect their "spokespeople">people allowed to post anime content onlineand FUCKING COPYSTRIKED EVERYTHING ELSE, EVERYWHEREThe end result was people that understood how the game had changed>like the Trash Taste retardsabsolutely selling out, going full blown>lolis bad OK? and ultimately swearing off their old "weeb" ways and trying to go with the current mainstream sensibilities
>>64194127>Very much feels like theyre trying to get rid of their current audienceConsidering the homo push that happened in the past year I wouldn't be surprised if this is at least partially true.
It is not a matter of they should or they should not. It is a matter of when.
>>64190833UnsubscribedUnfollowedDon't recommend channel
>>64193154Seat between Marine and Towa.
>>64194121No worse than any of the other Holos right now, IMHO. The fact she can perform live is the strongest reason to bring her onboard, no need for a manicured pre-recorded performance for her to do well.
>>64194133Its the same fags from yesterday. Just doing a new angle
>>64194133Can say the same about the opposite too, though it's more like a reaction. I myself will just watch whatever is interesting.
>>64194127The irony is that these audiences aren’t just hostile to the current Hololive audience but of female streamers in general. I don’t think Cover realizes how much hatred women streamers usually get. These audiences don’t want them to exist, period.
>>64194087Could you not sell her short? Growth AND challenge
>>64194153but enough about the shark
>>64194104please anon, nerissa's backrooms numbers aren't going to be enough to affect ina's. Though if she delays, it'll be better because she'll catch the funnel
>>64194225>t.clipwatcherNo wonder homos and NijiEN are dying
>>64194019The graphs are an indicator of how much the shitters like Mori, Kiara, Bae, and Nerissa pollute the average. CGDCT girls are inclining since Advent debut
>>64193982A long time ago when I was in elementary school, my friend was always talking about a rare Tomb Raider game called Tomb Raider: Spring Break. I still hold out hope it exists out there somewhere.
>>64194192Two more weeks. Unironically. This time it's true.
>>64194255Comprehension reps.
>>64194184>Two things changedNothing has changed. Western culture never has the capacity or the patience for any foreign culture. The mainstream western culture always reject anything foreign. You'd think the current woke culture is a new thing? No. If you look deeper, it has its root in the western judeo-christian tradition.This is also why vtubers can never be a thing in the west. The mainstream culture will always reject it at all cost.
>>64194055Do you realize how big of sluts western Asian women in their 20s are. It's a statistical impossibility that she is a virgin.
>>64193596Seananners...Tobuscus...
>>64194184I don’t disagree. I just think anime reviewing is really bad, even by online movie review, MovieBob level of low standards.
>>64194127>Very much feels like they're trying to get rid of their current audienceIs this the curse of Business Expansion?
>>64194332I already told you. She is not fully westernized. Her parents were still teaching her using the old Chinese way.
>>64191570>JP girls collab with menJP: how dare you?!EN: it's fine>EN girls collab with menJP: it's fineEN: how dare you?!
>>64193782This never works. Nobody has ever made this work. People that have tried (Lui with HLZNTL) just end up never doing a male collab again in any form straight after.
>>64194171Cover was legitimately shell shocked by Myth's success. If I remember right they were expecting them to be ID tier or maybe a little worse. It's a problem that still affects EN; Cover's tyranny of low expectations.
>>64194218I wish they could just find something they wholeheartedly enjoy to spend their time on. This is no way to live.
>>64194395Japanese fans seem to be very receptive to the JP girls collabing with males, going by recent events.
>>64191374NOTENOUGHSUPPORT
>>64193596The only internet personalities of that nature I ever watched were... well this was back in 2012 >ssohpkc>Jim Sterling>Zero Punctuation
>>64194384I dunno man, with how she talks about them like she was fully westernized since elementary school
>>64179851
Is it true that Bettel is gonna graduate soon?
>>64194438>low expectations But not for homos, apparently.
>>64194438I mean, EN is regularly mogged by ID these days, so the initial expectations were correct.
>>64194127>Very much feels like theyre trying to get rid of their current audienceFeels that way to me too desu
>>64194447Next year public stockholders meeting will be very brutal against the homos
>Nerissa still fucking streaming on top of Ina Is she retarded? It's been a full fucking week for her to realize what's happening and adjust.
>>64194436You're not entirely correct. Maybe Hololive has never made this work, but dev_is is different. This is the sort of challenge they were created to conquer and grow from.
>>64194321You are fucking retarded. Western culture has always been about adapting what works and discarding what doesn't. And the "woke" shit is entirely a foreign body introduced during the cold war to demoralize and divide the west.
>>64192286You guys loved to talk about how great the JP walled garden was until they decided to break the walls themselves.
>>64191628Don't shit on her friends, holofag.
worst vtuber names?I'm torn between bandage, dropkicks and bazinga
>>64193782The only Regloss member I care about is Raden.
>only 700 waiting for ina's 3D thingthis is going to be brutal
>>64194460She actually talked about the time when she was in elementary school>some white little girl was asking her to play together in English>she replied to her in Chinese and the white girl cried because she didn't understand what Enna was sayingAs westernized as you can get, it seems.
>>64193631iceiceice is malaysian iirc
Reminder that the current state of HoloEN was a combine effort of management, the girls themselves, AND the fansDon't single out anyone
>>64194127Hololive succeeds by being unique and doing things differently but Cover is trying to lose their differentiators>streamers who stream for their fans not themselves>streamers who don't farm HUHs every 5 seconds>streamers who at least pretend to like each other on cameraDoing what everyone else does will make them fall to being just another group of just some more streamers
>>64194490So we all know all the big success stories of shedding initial audience for wider one but why doesn't anyone mention all the failed attempts at it or companies that managed to become big without doing it?
>>64194519Name one other female chuuba that has this tortured relationship between collabing with males and pleasing unicorns. It's insane. It's not sustainable.
>>64194449>JimSTEPHANIE YOU ASSHOLE (i miss the good Jim)
>>64194235What do you mean by "these audience"?Because the ones who get flagged the most in either>the long history of CR and Ojiji's many fuckupsor >all the VCR servers up to nowwere all dudes
>>64194446>nips who can't get it up to save their fucking race are cucksWhat a huge surprise.
>>64192996salami runs out of gimmick, so she can only play the "just copy hololive" chink card
>>64193782Management is actively hostile to female streamers and is desperately trying to figure out a way to force males on their audience
>>64194441Hating Hololive is their hobby. Its like a drug to them
>>64194490Diversification is one thing, but audience purging doesn't sound smart. I'm no businessman, but what does this serve when they audience they want to get rid of are actually supportive of the talents
>>64194512Eh could just be a simple case of pon, may move her frame away later.
>>64194539>open smoker who goes to pachinko parlors
>>64194566No. Hololive succeed by hiring Miko, Suisei, Subaru, Aqua and Sankisei.
>>64194476They where expecting homojp numbers for them. For a good amount 9f time, they did get better viewership
>>64194579Yeah what the fuck happened to him
>>64194475I hope so. The homos could use another nail in their coffin to make sure of things.
>>64194321Anon, you're an absolute retard and this has nothing to do with anything "foreign" or "judeo-christian" or whatever babble you are talking about.What happened was>companies saw a grassroots niche and wanted it sanitized before investing in it
>>64194436When did Lui do a homo collab? Except that HLZNTL Holo vs Homo match I mean
>>64194535Dazzlegarden
>>64194574Regloss will be the first. They'll get the first mover advantage and jump start their channels and skyrocket past Gura and Marine.Victory goes to the brave
>>64194601>Terminally on Twitter misses the announcement and Ina's tweets after Eh
>>64194651Drug addiction and loosing over 200k subs
>>64194574Mori to a certain extentHilariously enoughLook at the way she grovels back after her fuck ups
>>64194535I quite like the girl, but Pipkin Pippa isn't really a great name.
>>64194535ouro kronii
>>64194703>pon
>>64194651Double fisted a giga helping of woke cuck tranny juice.
>>64194664If people still bring it up in regards to IRyS, Lui shouldn't get a free pass. Same goes for Chloe. HoloX is the flagship Japanese gen and IRyS is just a sidebranch member. EN shouldn't be held to higher standards than JP.
>>64194724And it is sustainable unlike what the other anon suggested. Her collab numbers are high and she is probably the top holoEN in terms of income.
I bet you my cats balls that Nerizzler will delay her stream when someone not retarded tells her to .
>>64193620All thanks to CHADVENT GODS.
>>64193669Chu Chu Chu
>>64194535T Rexford and Crimzon simply because those 2 fag name should have been switched
>>64194664Exactly, that's the point the anon was trying to make.
>>64194651What amateur wrestling does to a mother fucker...fucking sad because I could still enjoy his STEAM playlist.
>>64194795Chloe also handled the backlash somewhat badly.
>>64191599He's right tho
>>64193992Kronii didn't fucking follow through and did a complete 180 to all the shit she said she'd do, because she never said she'd stop collabing, just that she wouldn't communicate with them much if at all on Twitter and that she wouldn't have the collabs on her channel, both of which she immediately went back on .
>>64194709Do you think that could work in reverse for Kronii? Like she loses 200,000 subs then starts being hyper-feminine and straight edge?
>>64191628>>64191657I would like to painfully remind everyone that THOSE collabs were sanctioned by both Cover and Kadokawa for business favorsShe literally cannot say noSame with Kiara when she joined the Shadowverse tourney
>>64193620Nijiniggers, Homobeggars and trooncord are on full swing on trying to shit the most influential threadAnd still zero result
* FINAL TALLY OF THE DAY IS IN *Here it goes>56,638: Korone (Hololive)>38,734: Miko (Hololive)>30,656: AZKi (Hololive)>28,609: Salome (Nijisanji)>22,983: Fuwamoco (Hololive)>22,595: Subaru (Hololive)>22,062: Suisei (Hololive)>21,589: Nijisanji (Nijisanji)>21,053: Suisei (Hololive)>20,635: Subaru (Hololive)>20,425: Koyori (Hololive)>19,767: Kuzuha (Nijisanji)>16,950: Fubuki (Hololive)>16,311: Fuwamoco (Hololive)>16,131: Ito Life (Indie)>15,174: Fubuki (Hololive)>14,965: Calliope (Hololive)>14,636: Kanata (Hololive)>14,597: Nene (Hololive)>14,292: Nene (Hololive)>14,185: Lamy (Hololive)>13,980: Ema (VSPO)>13,522: Nui (Nijisanji)>13,065: Aki (Hololive)>11,625: Koyori (Hololive)>11,394: Lui (Hololive)>11,047: Honhima (Nijisanji)>10,931: NeruMero (Indie)>10,467: Toko (Nijisanji)Gold for Korone for the Splatoon tournament with Miko SC6 getting silver and AZKi for a surprising 30k+ bronze, soundly outranking Salome playing the same game
>>64194600they’re not supportive of the right talents. they won’t support the homos that the spiteful malicious female managers want to push
>>64194724Hey she got bills to pay and alcohol/lean to buy and that aint cheap.Homobeggars and sisters arent exactly the best cash cows...
>>64193782It feels like the management asked them to join to find a new audience. "Grow and challenge" or some shit. Not to mention the fact that RegLoss streams very little, 4/5 members don't even like playing video games
>>64193782I'd rather have Vtubers just tell people to fuck off instead of this "uwu I really care about your feelings and I know some people wont like this thing but I'm gonna do it anyway please keep supporting me".Feels like they're just trying to have their cake and eat it too and usually things only gets worse after this.
>>64194877IRyS having the best response is the reason it always gets brought up time and time again. Homobeggars and nijifags will never forgiver her for turning their brief moment of victory into an utter defeat
>>64194921Kiara joined the shadowverse tourney because Mori asked her to
>>64194954Homobeggars and sisters are mostly Pagpags
>>64194963>man without any stake in the outcome discloses that he prefers the bold and daring alternative course of action with the biggest risk How brave!
>>64193978Here's a timestamp.https://www.youtube.com/live/GRbuMZDr4zo?si=q2iJFNJ6R8smNjnU&t=10660A rough summary is she's anxious about it, but she thinks its necessary if she wants to grow her viewerbase, and she thinks she can maximize the upside and minimize the downside. She even directly swore that she wasn't going to betray her current viewerbase either in the process, that they'll always be her first priority, and she's not going to stop doing lots of zatsudan and drinking streams and member streams, and even will be doing her first ASMR stream soon.
>>64194963Vox...Mikeneko...
>>64194921And Cover is fucking retarded for agreeing with it, news at 11.
>>64192419Walled garden was only ever a thing because of the chinkout. Hololive JP have always been collabing with chuubas outside of Hololive.
>>64194127>>64194193>>64194490>Very much feels like theyre trying to get rid of their current audienceYou're basically retards.
>>64194937> king directly below Pekora's daughterTaking care of business while her mom is resting. Proud of her
>>64195022Cuck buttering. A JP classic. Towa does this all the time.
>>64195022Don’t worry guys I’m just going to seek out new fans who want the opposite of what you like but you totally aren’t being replaced
how are the grimbros doing?
>>64194937HOLY FUCK! HOW DID AZKi FIND 30K PEOPLE!??!
>>64194983That night/morning the collabed was fucking hilarious. For a few hours homobeggars/sisters were on top of the world, like they finally slayed their white (hafu) whale, but then IRyS explained what was what and their dreams came crashing down again. No wonder their hate has been so mindless for her.
>>64195073This is why EN will never truly be part of Hololive. They were built on a false premise and they don't fit in with the old and current version of what hololive stands for.
>>64195022Holy shit, the amount of cope she is trying to make them swallow is terminal.
>>64191535>FaunaShe's literally talentless she has nothing else to do but coast. Do not understand what the fucking retards at cover see in her
>>64195022So exactly like Nene... and that gave her a meltdown
>>64195077Then explain why it took almost 2 whole years for Advent.
>>64195167sister please
>>64192159I mean, the entire YT old guards could work right? Pretty sure Mark and Pewd would down for that (Not sure about Pewd since, you know, he's in Japan now and has a kid)
>>64192827You fucking retard, TT collab was all about spreading for hololive influence with Kadokawa. Why do you think HoloEN got those bookwalker collab streams not long afterwards?
>>64194921Retard.
>>64194600Seems like theyre betting on the new audience being just as supportive of the talents as well as the stuff theyre trying to push. Its a gamble that is gonna end up biting them in the ass. Its a tale as old as time with these suits. They never fucking learn.
>>64194184a lot of brand wants to be the next Taylor Swift, huh?It's a huge gamble at the cost of turning a portion of your former fans into long term antis
>>64195172Nene is a known menhera. It didn't give give her a meltdown, her brain didi
>>64195192Do you understand what>trying to get rid of their current audienceis you ESL retard?
>>64195226>PewdAnon, let him go, he's retired and chilling in Japan with his wife and daughter.He's long past the "hanging with anime girls" arc, he's now in the>gotta find some other ojisans and play mahjong while reminiscing about being youtube #1arc
>>64195211You can continue to post this shit as if I give a shit about niggersanji but it won't change what I've said. Just because there's people worse than she is outside of Holo doesn't mean she belongs in it
>>64195022Im lucky to brush them off even before debut>Truly FAKE Hololives
>>64194924>Tourist discord nijivermin seething about hololive in /#/Nothing out the ordinary. It's just the usual band of pathetic niji dogs who love barking up the tree because it makes them feel better about themselves. Classic small dog syndrome nijidrones. Pathetic as always.
>>64190690God, I fucking hate Fuwamoco so much
>>64195077> no arguement just namecallingWelcome back sis. The thread was feeling very pleasant without you
>>64195231And that whole thing was still utterly retarded when they only thing HoloEN got was a wave of ironic fans who literally became the very first beggars.>>64195278Yeah, and it sounds exactly what was happening in 2022 with the massive push for the homos and homo collabs.
>>64195328>Yeah, and it sounds exactly what was happening in 2022 with the massive push for the homos and homo collabs.Actual retard.
>>64194937>56,638: Korone (Hololive)>38,734: Miko (Hololive)>30,656: AZKi (Hololive)>22,983: Fuwamoco (Hololive)>22,595: Subaru (Hololive)>22,062: Suisei (Hololive)>21,053: Suisei (Hololive)>20,635: Subaru (Hololive)>20,425: Koyori (Hololive)HOLY MOTHER OF MOGGING
>>64195289Yes yes. Nippon #1. Hai hai.
Bummer, I guess.
HoloENs big draw is tits and I think everyone should get upgraded tits excepts Gura, Ina, Mococo and Biboo
>>64195321>Anon doesn't know what words mean, says stupid shit, and gets called a retard.
>>64195022>she wants to grow her viewerbaseIf you look at the previous GTA VCR, all the female streamers had lower than their average viewership
kek, anon made a thread in the catalog yesterday or the other day saying something like>Google's AI now can be a better anime girl than vtubersTurns out it was ... fake?
>>64195167
>>64195433>excepts GuraTOO LATE!
>>64195289
>>64194937>56,638: Korone (Hololive)>38,734: Miko (Hololive)>30,656: AZKi (Hololive)>22,983: Fuwamoco (Hololive)>22,595: Subaru (Hololive)>22,062: Suisei (Hololive)>21,053: Suisei (Hololive)>20,635: Subaru (Hololive)>20,425: Koyori (Hololive)WELCOME TO MOGGING CENTRAL.
/hlg/ is melting down me and greenchad are destroying them KEK KEK KEKlast SEAmurai LOST
>>64195396You don't even have to go to the JP talents, Advent in general are proper hires. Even in her own gen, Bae, IRyS and Mumei are proper hires. Kronii may kind of suck but she still has talent, she just needs someone to help her tap into it. But Fauna is quite literally talentless.
>>64195211jesus christ the current state of Vox
>>64192981>Original peakAnon, come on nowYou can replace her with literally any JP and it would produce the same result
>>64195022>there are no girls in the world in this day and age that don't talk to malesno...
APOLOGIZE to ReGLOSS. Shartvent gets mogged daily by them despite them not being under the main branch. Shartvent is a disappointing fail while ReGLOSS surpassed expectations
>>64194937>56,638: Korone (Hololive)Horayo~!
ユニコーンは黙って離れないで! やだやだ!離れないで欲しい!ユニコーンいて欲しいの!やなの! いていいのユニコーンは!ツノ刺すから!!ツノの刺し直しをしたいのりりかは! わかる?ツノ洗うために外すのはいいんだけどいて欲しいの!やなの!別にいーじゃん! 『ユニコーンいるかな?』いるだろ!消えるのやだ!消えない消えない刺すからまた 大丈夫ASMRで!ASMRで復活するから大丈夫!https://www.youtube.com/live/GRbuMZDr4zo?t=3h01m38s
>>64195532Based
HoloEN'S big draw is small girl feet. Everyone should get a barefoot model except Bae, Mori, and Kronii who should graduate.
>>64195561Huh, did Cover come out and say the had zero expectations for regloss?
>>64195532kek
>>64195536Kronii has a personality that is bully bait, but only a few members in the company can work with that. Sana being the best one
>>64195438I can easily point out a few examples that contradict your statement. But whatever i guess.
>>64195611This you?>>>jp/45462758&
>>64195629>Bae, Mori, and Kronii who should graduate.t. nijinigger that is showing her true color
>>64195545Sounds like the whore is projecting. >there's no girl in this day and age who doesn't let a boy fuck her anus on the first date.
>>64195433I prefer Biboo as a shortstack/oppai loli but I agree with the other 3 choices.
>>64193625Want to wait 4 more years?
>>64195689Don't ever reply to me again, scum.
>>64195370I sure am, beggar.
>>64195611Anon you have to make it as a new thread and add some MTL
>>64195703We have seen Beboo's art sheet, she is flat
>>64195611>Stay, unicorns stay!I'll get the horn!I'm gonna reattach the antlers! You know what?I don't mind you taking it off to wash the horn, but I want you to stay!kek literally begging
>>64195741kys nijinigger
>>64195022You'd think a branch that was crippled by being perceived as homocollabers would try to right the ship but noLooks like regloss is all challenge no growth
>>64195611Unicorns shut up and don't leave!Oh no, no! I don't want you to leave! I want the unicorn to stay! Oh, no!Stay with me, unicorns! I'll get the antlers! Rika Inori has re-stabbed the antlers!You know what I mean? I don't mind if you take it off to wash the horn, but I want you to stay! I don't like it! I don't care!"Do you need a unicorn?" You're right! I don't want it to go away! It won't go away, it won't go away, it'll sting you again.Don't worry, ASMR will bring it back!
Let's watch as # once again gets absolutely wrong and nothing positive nor negative will happen to whoever joining the vcr server.
>>64195438What holo was in the prior GTA server?
>>64195639Wasn't it clear by the fact how they definitely did not force them everywhere before debut. This post is sarcasm.
>>64195784Yeah, just like Kronii has been more successful then ever!
>>64193686I mean, another element that people often overlook was that >Fan of female Twitch streamers are often worse than your average Vtuber fans, funnily enough
>>64195793Botan la+
>>64195793Tiea and lap
>>64195442It's like how Todd edited all of the loading screens out during the Starfield gameplay presentation.
>>64195784I think you care a little too much about this threads opinion
>>64195532>announcing raidFalseflagging Nijifaggot.
>>64193782I can understand sponsorships but this is her choosing on her own to do this.
>>64193889Can't believe I will die shitposting side by side with /u/
>>64195532based ENchad
Man turning this into a poll instead of just doing it is some level of disrespect. It's a literal woman shittest (and jailbirs failed it so far kek)
>>64195561have fun with your mixed streamer server streams, ReGLOSSbro
>>64195784I simply will not watch or support them
>>64195611>>64195781Well, it took a while for her to go mask-off, but that's it I guess, huh?
>>64193721>beryltop western mainstream medias are filled with non-asianeven the best-selling girl group is all non-asianno matter how much talent you have, the west won't support asian
>>64195611So when the vod will go private?
>>64195938Shes doing it on purpose(she'll move it anyways)>Stop being an idiot
>>64195938?????????? this is fake yes?
>>64194086I mean, just debut another pandemic
>>64193782So reassuring >>64195781
>>64195749>Thinks getting called a retard for trying to suggest Cover wants to get rid of its paying audience makes someone a beggar.You're basically brain damaged, anon. Since I don't actually think you're THAT stupid I'll assume you're a Nijifaggot.
>>64195784I doubt anything explosively negative will happen, in any case.It's still early in their careers, so the small amount of unicorns they could have gathered by this point will just quietly leave and that'll be it for that. And with any luck they'll get the new audience they want
>>64193620Last year HoloEN didn't have raids
>>64195987That is currently being worked on
>>64195827Ah fuck, she slipped my mind. Guess I have to add the criteria on those who didn't explicitly pander to unicorns before.>>64195873Maybe you are right, should just stick to testing my numberfagging model.
>>64195986It's not a fake, she ended up moving an hour after because of an overwhelming 94% saying yes. The fact that she even fucking asked is baffling.
Alright so what's your honest estimate for Ina's sololive today?
>>64195986It's unironically real.
>>64196044>sololiveit's just a regular 3D live and she won't even hit 30k. easily slip territory to selen or mousey, let alone JP.
>>64195938And people were saying >Oh my God it's her being Pon! It was fucking deliberate. Jesus Christ.
>>64195938No Nerissa, if you don't see the need to delay the stream, then by all means, keep it where it is. I can laugh at your shit ccv even more that way.
>>6419604458k and 2 video game songs
>>64195665if you are already a rock-bottom whore, the only possible path is to go up
>>64196032but now she's overlapping selen, there's no good options should have left it alone.
>>6419604430-40kThere's simply no hype for a basic 3D live with no guests at amerilard hours, also Ina has really let her mindshare die this year
>>64196077HOLY KEK
>>64195611>men always say they love girls who don't know other men>but isn't it better if she knows a lot of men and chose you over them all?is what she says right after the asmr line. ririka... you really are a woman
>>64195611>>64195781Actually kind of revolting. At first I was just feeling vindicated I never gave her a chance, but the way she put this is just kind of shitty.
>>64196105Who?
>>64194321>The mainstream western culture always reject anything foreign.Anon, you can literally say the same shit about Eastern cultures (China, Japan, Korea, to name a few)Well, "foreign", not really, but "inferior" might be a better word
>>64196117her waiting room numbers look extremely grim too
>>64196105And holoen fans are suppose to care why?
>>64195919It's the same shit Nene said, they think they won't grow if they don't do this, probably someone at Management poisoning their minds.
>>64196044I can see it reaching 30-40k. 50k? Nahh. No way
>>64196013nta but shit can get bad if drama happens like last vcr gta.
>>64195938God damn this level of disrespectwoman, you owe your entire career to her
>>64195433This. It's either perfectly flat small girls/women, or big ass tiddy bitches. None of this "medium is premium" cope.
>>64195938Clearly this woman doesn't understand how impossible it is for EN to get one of these. Myth is the EN golden gen and they're still struggling with that shit. Maybe one day Nerissa will think "hey can I have this" and she'll remember this moment as the suits say no sorry, Goro Niviu from Uproar gen 3 booked the whole year
>>64196150>last vcr gta.What'd I miss?
>>64195938I'm happy enough that Shiorin defied initial expectations.Nerissa can continue to be a lost cause.
>>64196105>selenWeird way to say Fuwamoco
>>64194566>Hololive succeeds by being unique and doing things differentlySuch as?
>>64195611no wonder this is not JP7what a rough experience
>>64196142>>64196117>>64196149>>64196044grimgods eating good tonight
>>64195938While there is technically no rule saying she has to, she should have some better awareness about the rarity of 3D streams for EN and how that means other people might respond in kind to her, or at least how it'd make her look. It's like throwing a fat steak to trolls.
>>64196147Nene at least already got her 1 mil but Ririka is really screwed. She was incline on some of her content as well.
>>64195611>>64195781She has the option to stay silent until things calm down but she chose to say this...
>>64196182King rp-ed too hard with Ririmu which caused his fans to attack her, but he did tell them to fuck off. Could have something else minor ie leeching allegations that I wasn't aware of.
>>64195938Lmao this is the exact opposite issue of Fauna who dodges every single event because she doesn't want to overlap them even if something like a birthday doesn't fucking matter anymore and it's frustrating when she cuts her stuff short for them
>>64196105And who the fuck cares about your purple whore?
>>64196182Something went wrong and no one could log out, and if they died in the game they died irl. Shit got a little crazy
>>64196150Nothing would happen aside from the most hardcore committed larpers, like Shaka or Ririmu. Even Laplus wasn't nearly at that level so it's not Ririka or Ao's problem.
>>64195611woman moment
>>64195938Being a fan of Myth (-Gura) instead of Promise should be a dealbreaker for future candidates. No respect for Hololive
>>64195611this can`t be real, she can`t be that retarded
>>64194924Anon, look at how fast this thread derailed whenever that subject is brought upI'd say they already success, but well ...
>>64196219who?
>>64196266That's just another friday night for a japanese gamer.
>>64196257Women are inherently dismissive of anyone trying to tell them not to do something. It's an odd thing and you should be happy so many holos resist it
>>64195053Kek, and you want 2020 Cover to play balls with Kadokawa, how?
>>64195938the answer is obviouswhat made her think otherwise?
Look this Nerissa thing is bad, but isn't Shiorin streaming over IRyS' outfit reveal much worse? 4 times as worse.Nerissa as we know is tight with Kiara, who is tight with Ina, so we can easily assume Ina gave Nerissa her blessings.Shiorin though is a bitter skank trying to steal IRyS' duality gimmick with her black and white hair. It's sad. She might as well go all the way and collab with her old friends.
>>64195611I bet she thought she was being cute about it too by pretending to be drunk and bratty.
>>64196147Based EOP
Ririka needs to be banned from doing drunk streams because she went full retarded there. Comments are roasting her ass, even members