/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

*GENERAL NUMBERFAG SITES*
>https://playboard.co/en/
>http://ikioi-ranking.com/
>https://vrabi.net/
>https://www.vstats.jp
>https://live-ranking.userlocal.jp/vtuber-ranking

Hololive sites
>https://vt.poi.cat/
>https://www.hololyzer.net/youtube/index.html
>https://trackholo.live/en/
>https://www.hololive-songs.com/

Nijisanji sites
>https://niji-mado.web.app/stats/hourly
>https://twitter.com/2434rankings
>https://twitter.com/2434subscriber
>https://www.nijiuta.com/

Twitch
>https://sullygnome.com/
>https://twitchtracker.com/
>https://stats.roki.sh/

Full list at https://pastebin.com/nCGZL1Lp

Who triggered the schizo spammer

When did the JPnigs turn into such shamless bootlickers? They act like 2018 nijifags these days. It's sickening.

>>64190486
BASED OP PIC!

>>64190421
>Asking Twitter to subscribe
What was it? 4% conversion rate?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ch0Wlp0ItBo
>Vertical Miko GFE
>10k waiting already

>>64190486
GRIM

YTxTW tally doko?

>>64190513
Yeah, just look at him go
>>64190516

>>64190460
because they only want le unhinged clips

>>64190548
can't wait for sora's

>>64190548
>Combine 2 FOTM gimmicks together
Miko is literally the god of abusing gimmicks

>>64190389
Kiara and Mori don't live in Japan anymore. They are willing to put some effort into traveling to Japan for the stuff that needed to be done there, meanwhile the rest...

Also IDs are poor and make do with what they have to the fullest and produce good contents for the holofans to watch too. They never complain about Cover not bringing them to Japan or something.

>>64190548
guerilla at 1am wtf is she doing?

>>64190548

>>64190516
Anon, admitting that some EN girls are lazy and not innovative with their streams is not bootlicking.

>>64190574
>>64190582
It's also a 1.9M subs countdown stream
https://twitter.com/sakuramiko35/status/1733510542827094388

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ch0Wlp0ItBo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ch0Wlp0ItBo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ch0Wlp0ItBo

>>64190629
You jumped to management's defense in the last thread. That's the definition of bootlicking.

There are no such things as vshojo fans or nijisanji fans. There are two types of people in the world: holofans and holoans.

>>64190660
based

>>64190649
Cover management is often has the right of it.

>>64190637
Damn talk about buff stacking
While I fine this blatant numbefagging attempt disgusting, I do respect the hustle

Fuwamoco are botted whores

Ririka on that short live grind. She really wants her 250k subs before the year ends.

>>64190660
true true

>>64190660
vshojo has more fans than holoEN at this point.

>>64190649
I didn't "jump to management's defense". You brought it up as a cope and I told you it is not true. They are free to do what they want as per IRyS.

>>64190548
I hope Youtube adds a theater mode for PC
>Put it on the middle of the screen

>>64190702
>Grinding for 250k
Grim

So what did we learn from the last thread anons?

>>64190683
They've also royally cocked it up a fuckton too, especially with how they've handled EN over the years. Their particular track record on that front is not stellar, and at best can be called 'negligence caused by circumstances'.

Mika inclining.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2WLiYCiiXkg

They are talking about organs.

>>64190752
The NijiEN AR live is back on because they felt humiliated by it being cancelled and CtW being announced weeks later.

I love Advent so much bros

>12/09 FINAL EN YTxTW DAILY TALLY
22,983: FUWAMOCO (Hololive) -Botted-
14,965: Mori Calliope (Hololive)
8,334 : Henya The Genius (Vshojo)
6,852 : Zentreya (Vshojo)
6,205 : Matara Kan (Vshojo)
5,933 : Takanashi Kiara (Hololive)

>EN YTxTW TINS FOR NOVEMBER 2023
1) Selen Tatsuki (Nijisanji) - 11,895 - Birthday Concert
2) Watson Amelia (Hololive) - 12,143 - Unarachived Karaoke
3) FUWAMOCO (Hololive) - 15,827 - Karaoke
4) Selen Tatsuki (Nijisanji) - 21,694 - TSB HoloNIJI Apex
5) FUWAMOCO (Hololive) - 21,293 - Fuwamoco Morning (botted)
6) Koseki Bijou (Hololive) - 11,662 - The Exit 8
7) FUWAMOCO (Hololive) - 20,286 - Fuwamoco Morning (botted)
8) Ironmouse (Vshojo) - 25,045 - VGA Watchalong
9) FUWAMOCO (Hololive) - 22,983 - Fuwamoco Morning (botted)

>PER GROUP
5x: Hololive (3 botted)
2x: Nijisanji
1x: Vshojo

>PER STREAMER
4x: FUWAMOCO
2x: Selen Tatsuki
1x: IronMouse, Watson Amelia, Bijou

>PER BOTTED
4x: FUWAMOCO

>POINTS PER STREAMER (tin = 5pts, rubber = 3pts, plastic = 1pt)
27p:FUWAMOCO
10p:Selen Tatsuki
8p: IronMouse
6p: IRyS, Watson Amelia, Bae, Bijou
4p: Henya The Genius
5p: Mori
2p: Ceres Fauna
1p: GEEGA

>>64190752
this sounds like a good meme template, except vox

sister seething over advent new outfit, apparently homos didn't get enough charity special treatment

Ririka joining VCR too.

>ririika is joining GTA VCR
Oh boy

The problem with the EN scene is that there has only been a single superstar that was actually incredibly popular in her own right without leeching
And now she's mostly awol

There are other "stars" in the scene, but nowhere near the same level
Mori is the only other EN chuuba that could claim to be a superstar but only in music, since her stream numbers are usually dogshit
Kronii was supposed to be Council's star but she fumbled in all sorts of ways
Mumei is so-called Gura-lite but still normally only has about half Gura's CCV for both normal streams and karaokes
Fauna probably takes the stable CCV crown now that Ina doesn't give a shit, with Biboo close behind, but they still can't guarantee 10k CCV
FWMC are promising hard workers, but their high ceiling (specially when pandering to JP) is crippled by their constant debuff content
Outside of holo, there's only Ironmouse, but other than the fact that she is indeed a hard worker, she requires leeching off others to sustain her numbers, and like all other EN twitch chuubas she suffers from the smaller "box" there
Filian (and to a far lesser extent, Rin) abuses shorts for subs and normally has mediocre streams numbers
That AI chuuba made a big splash but I barely hear anything about her (him) these days
Previously Luxiem used to rival Gura for certain streams, but they're practically dead

>>64190801
>12/09 FINAL EN TWITCH DAILY TALLY
8,334: Henya The Genius (Vshojo)
6,852: Zentreya (Vshojo)
6,205: Matara Kan (Vshojo)

>EN TWITCH GOLD FOR NOVEMBER 2023
1) Ironmouse (Vshojo) - 9,801 - Lethal Company
2) Henya The Genius (Vshojo) - 9,809 - VRCHAT
3) Ironmouse (Vshojo) - 13,508 - Animation contest
4) Henya The Genius (Vshojo) - 8,021 - Lethal Company
5) Henya The Genius (Vshojo) - 10,099 - Lethal Company (/w Pomu, Elira, Millie)
6) GEEGA (Vshojo) - 6,956 - Super Smash Bros Ultimate (/w Haruka, Zentreya, Henya)
7) Filian (Mythic Talent) - 6,315 - Crused Trivia (w/Vienna)
8) Ironmouse (Vshojo) - 25,045 - VGA Watchalong
9) Henya The Genius (Vshojo) - 8,334 - The Day Before (/w Kson)

>PER GROUP
8x: Vshojo
1x: Mythic Talent

>PER STREAMER
4x: Henya The Genius
3x: IronMouse
1x: GEEGA, Filian

>POINTS PER STREAMER (Gold = 5pts, Silver = 3pts, Bronze = 1pt)
20p:Henya
15p:IronMouse
8p: Filian, Zentreya
6p: Vedal
5p: GEEGA
4p: Vedal, Shoto, Vei
3p: Kson, Nihmune
1p: Anny, Trickywi, OniGiri, Matara
Sources: Streamcharts

Ahhh
Was Haachama always like this?

>>64190795
buy an ad

HAPPY BIRTHDAY YAGOO

>>64190801
>4) Selen Tatsuki (Nijisanji) - 21,694 - TSB HoloNIJI Apex
biased sack of shit

>>64190752
botterfag really wants a belojogo version for holoen, fuwamoco especially

>>64190731
Yeah, grim as it may be, she settled for this goal before the year ends. Come, watch her do blowjob attempts on the bottle she drinks. Heh

>maybe we should remove EN from the tally
>maybe we should add an asterix to the botted numbers
>maybe, maybe, maybe.
how about we let it be and let the fag waste his money on the streams?
i highly doubt you fags take the actual tallies seriously when hololive already won the year MONTHS AGO.
and NijiEN haven't been competitive with HoloEN for a year +
the only reason you would care about cripple tally is because (you) want your chuuba to win cripple tally, which is basically holo vs holo and makes you look like an ass.

you know what i say is true.

https://youtu.be/CYZWD--6yCU
Alright brats, you know her type

>>64190690
Butt enough about Ironmouse and selen

MIGOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
I CANT WAIT ANYMORE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

>>64190830
>>64190833
>Everyone would rather join VCR GTA server
Miko GTA server dream died for this

>「DAYBREAK FRONTLINE」 - 音乃瀬奏 (cover) *new*
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BWexRFqs3Wg
>「名前のない怪物」 - 音乃瀬奏 (cover)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=45ZfAdZuaok

>>64190795
same but also Promise

>>64190883
you know you're talking to the fag right?

>>64190801
>>64190850

Remember when Ao and Ririka sent tweets to all the stars and people here coped "it doesn't mean they're actually ever going to collab with them"

That's a lot of people waiting
Miko might be able to challenge OkaKoro gold

>>64190897
>bot vs bot

>>64190910
doesn't matter when there are many fags that hate him but possibly share that viewpoint.

>>64190819
delicious

>>64190819
ESL sisters...

>>64190819
OH NO NO NO NO NO

>>64190839
Post stinks of number rot, anon.

>>64190958
>FAGGOTS viewpoint == 0point
The only good FAGGOT is a Dead FAGGOT

>>64190958
he's been entertaining this thread for two months now. idk about heate

>>64190854
Yes? Are you retarded?

>>64191028
not numbers fuck off

>>64190899
holy shit that waiting room

>>64190854
Kind of, but now she really wants me to get her pregnant.

Miko cute

>>64191051

Miko is about to drop a huge stream before 1 week break and you fag would rather discuss VCR GTA

>>64191051
nijiseethe

>>64190854
hownewru?

MIKO GOLD AH AH AH AH

>>64191078
Sex face

>>64191051
We love Biboo and Kaela here.

MY HANDS FEELS SUDDENLY WARM

>>64191051
I see two zeros

>>64191098
Based, revenge for tanking her average

>>64190819
Dangerously ESL

>>64190819
desu, they deserve some boring, uglyass man kimonos too.

>>64190900
Call me a schizo all you want but I'm starting to think this was an internal sabotage from Cover wanting to break "muh walled garden" and gambling on non-planned interaction between Holos and homos.

>>64190940
>remember
I don't actually. Didn't pay attention to them then and don't pay attention to them now.

>>64191078
cute beeb

>>64191051
back to your dead thread nijisis

>>64191024
Nah number rot is looking at JP streams and thinking 30k is low because the their overall numbers have kept climbing YoY
EN meanwhile still lacks a single consistent 10k+ chuuba other than an active Gura

they went full on short video format mode, Filian really shaked the meta

>>64190942

>>64191156
You might have a point
I mean the people who aren't gonna benefit from it are Holo who supported the walled garden, they are not going to get that boost everyone get

>>64191051
holoboard
holothread

>>64191156
The "walled garden" has always been EOP redditor nonsense. JP and ID have been open to outside collabs for a while. EN on the other hand prefers to hide inside their tiny little bubble and leech off of the hard work of JP while avoiding the larger streamer community.

>>64191078
When is biboo going to realize she'd made herself the sidekick? You're a sidekick to a fucking holoID, lady. Mori sidekick also since bae has better things to do now.

>>64191221
Nice gif! Im gonna save it!

>>64191203
Go on and post the normal stream numbers for non Holo EN vtubers, EN streamers in general

>>64191210
>Shitlian
lmao

>Miko doing a numberfagging stream begging for subs
i'll allow it

>>64190819
>Tempus already one year but nothing got new outfit or anything
Post THAT image

>>64190710
Fuck right off. You really bring up the most mismanaged girl in the company as an example?

>>64191221

>>64191274
Shes one of us

>>64190940
Anon help, i think im turning into a frog in a pot. Now im moving my standard to “its ok as long she wont be like how mel interacted with axel”

>>64191221
I put my dick on the screen

>>64191274
In a way, "begging for sub" is also a buff, so Holo should be allowed to use it

>35niggas actually unsubbing
based

>>64191322
koyori does it pretty frequently

How did the Selens leech tournament go?

MIKO IS NUMBERFAGGING RIGHT NOW

>>64191338
Wrong thread sis, we love Miko and 35p her e

>>64191239
You fucking JPniggers and the shit you shamelessly type when your vtubers switch gears is hilarious.

>>64191278

>>64190660
>Being a Holofan
You must be 18+ to post here.

>>64191221

>>64191203
Holo numbers are superstar numbers was my point, anon.

>>64191372
nijiseethe

>>64191338
First time watching Hololive sub marathon stream? They always do that to prolong the stream

HEY ANONS!
>IS THIS WHAT YOU REALLY WANTED?!?!?
LOOK AT THIS! LOOK AT WHAT YOU HAVE DONE!
>TAKE RESPONSIBILITY! NOW!

>>64191229
Said boost only happens when the server is up with the majority losing most if not all of it when they go back to their usual content.

>>64191239
Yeah, and I'm sure all of JP is super excited that they might interact with the male failures, right? Something something invisible gun, amirite?

>>64190940
That's why I never invest in ReGLOSS coin from the get-go

>>64191390
Cope beggar

>>64190819
Yeah, they only got 8 new genmates. God, sometimes women make it hard to love them.

>>64191239
>>64191372
>Holo vs Holo
Hello, Nijifaggots

>>64191418
NIJISEETHE

>>64190940
ao has literally nothing to lose, low ccv and low income, while ririka has low ccv but high income

>>64191416
>complaining about JAPANESE vtubers interacting with JAPANESE male streamers
come on, now

>10k waiting room
>21k
Holy cull, these short streams really are not that good for ccv

>>64190819
This is embarrassing, NYE outfits don't even count as real outfits and unironically tempiss would have gotten theirs if 2 of them didn't blow the branch up

hell they might still get them its not like NYE came and went

>>64190576
>Mori doesn't live in Japan

what bait is this? Also Mori gets most of her shit through UMG not Cover.

>>64191390
>hating last samurai is nijiseethe
rumao

>>64190830
>>64190833

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=buF_TtzS9SA
>Met 3D live tomorrow
I actually didn't know she had her 3D (re)debut yet.
What we thinking? 30k possible?

>>64191451
I see alot of grays in chat
Its good for farming subs

>>64191436
EN is perfect as it is, you should go watch your niji organs sis, they need the help now that EN wont let them leech

>>64191483
30k Z'ed to 60k

>>64191229
VCRfags are VCRfags. Aki quickly slid back to the bottom of the pile with their ARK server ending.

>>64191432
ENcuck deflection
EN is not hololive, never will be

>>64190576
>Mori
She definitely has a foothold in Japan, she lives there more than in the US

>>64191483
the Z alone will be 30k+

>>64191446
I wonder if you'll say the same thing if they interact with the homos.

Miko go do the poll shit so that we can see how many passed by your stream

>>64190839
>Gura
On the first point yeah, I agree that there is really just one superstar, and Gura having a long hiatus is not her own problem to solve, they need someone to shoulder her burden in EN.
>Mori
She is hardworking and too ahead of her times for her own good. She knew that if hololive as a brand need to incline in the west, she needs to approach people outside of hololive, basically having a foot in the door toward the undiscovered blue sea. But alas, fans were not ready for that. She is still correct and her collab numbers speak for themselves.
>Kronii and Fauna
Both of them did nothing but coast after the first month. Kronii would have her strong floor if not for her fuck ups. Fauna only inclines because the box has no where else to go. Again all of their content are as safe as possible. None of them were trying to do something new.
>FWMC
Debuff contents are there to test their floor, and on top of that they are genuinely interested in the content, which is rare and should be celebrated nontheless. What they need is to develop a better gaming skill, and some gimmick streams every week or 2 to keep people interested and encourage clippers to clip them.
>Ironmouse
I would like to mention that she is our queen just to rile some people up, but I should refrain from doing that in this serious discussion. She was part of the old guards and is maintaining her numbers pretty well, I will give her that, but there really isn't that many ways to incline as a twitch streamers, except for drama.
>Filians
Nah. Streaming is what keeps a vtuber alive as a brand.
>Vedal/Neuro
It is just a chatbot, people put it in their background and most others just watch her clips.
>Luxiem
Let's be honest they have a lot of antis, even among the female viewers. They are destined to fall.

Actually I realized that after typing all these, I realized that those are just unnecessary words because it all boils down to
>JUST DEBUT MORE CHARISMATIC AND ENTERTAINING VTUBERS LMAO

>>64191501
>>64191477
NIJISEETHE

>>64190839
>Previously Luxiem used to rival Gura for certain streams
The fuck? They were at best competing with Mumei

>>64191483
60k floor

>>64191508

If a CGDCT holo joined Asmongoloid or Sodapoppins hardcore wow guilds would you be angry or supportive?

>>64190819

I see that Saturday night in glorious Nippon has brought out the very best anons to seethe.

>>64191552
Reminder that this schizo is Indonesian, so they can only resort to spamming English text from the textfile they've saved. Truly sad.

>>64191456
knowing cover yagoo the homolover staff they will definitely get new outfit, those 2 grifters fucked everything up

>>64191535
>She is hardworking and too ahead of her times for her own good. She knew that if hololive as a brand need to incline in the west, she needs to approach people outside of hololive, basically having a foot in the door toward the undiscovered blue sea. But alas, fans were not ready for that. She is still correct and her collab numbers speak for themselves.
Retardbeat hands typed this drivel

>>64191528
yes; she'll say "they already interacted with male celebs, did you really think they wouldn't collab with the stars?"

>>64191562
Their karaokes had like 5x+ their normal numbers
Granted the graphs looked suspicious as fuck

>>64191570
it's only acceptable when JP holos do it

>>64191465
>>64191525
She is staying in Japan but I don't think that is her permanent residence. Case still in point that none other made this effort.

>>64191570
Stop taking surveys /here/ Inter-kun

>>64191221

>>64191591
>sister runs out of arguments
>proceeds to make shit up
kek keep dancing for us nijinigger

>>64191535
>Mori
She wasn't wrong but she chose one of the worst group of outsiders that she could, with two of them acting resentful towards Hololive on stream.

>>64191570
>p-please talk about my cuck fantasies

>>64191570
Total flesh streamer death

I honestly am getting triggered by the vertical streams where members are begging for subs. Like just today I saw Kanade have a constant popup on hers to subscribe, Yoshika has had her verticals show her subcount, Miko has her subs showing
It’s 1 single day of its existence in the vtuber field and people are already numberwhoring and metagaming it

>>64191535
>>FWMC
>What they need is to develop a better gaming skill,

It actually baffles me over how bad they are at some stuff seeing their passion for games. Korone aint got nothing on their passion/lack of gaming skill combination

>>64191628
>She wasn't wrong but she chose one of the worst group of outsiders that she could
If you were Mori, who would you choose instead?

>>64191627
>gets called out
>resorts to buzzwords
Sad!

>>64191663
keeps seething sister you lost

>>64190819
>SEA
>homolover
>shit opinions

of course

>>64190854
Anon? She unironically showed this on stream
>pic related
stream is still up there if you want to check

>>64191672
EN is inclining. I've never been happier.

50k VCR GTA debut or bust

>>64191614
Fucking lol. When was last time JP had any influence on EN? Early 2022?

>>64191702
>caring about VCR GTA
Wrong thread splitfag

Miko dropped my hand after getting 1.9m. Anons, is this how it feels being used just for sex?

Migo 1.9M GETTO!
>She let go of my hand the moment she reached her goal
Im kinda heart broken a little KEK!

>>64190833
it's over just like that huh? such a shame

>>64191702
>jfif.jpg

>>64191650
It's not the covid era anymore, anon. Being proactive now helps keep their numbers up in a year or two+.

>>64191650
holos do it because they can get their 1 mill wish faster

>>64191634
japanese flesh streamers are fine. the SF6 training arc and the VCR servers have all been kino so far. i'm looking forward to the next VCR GTA event.

>>64190833
unsubbed, this is why gatekeeping is important

I can feel and smell Migo's breath

This short stream thing is fucking vile, it have incredible algo power, Miko been camping on my recommendation page despite me spending the last 20 minutes trying to see if I can force her out

>>64191615
>but I don't think that is her permanent residence
I don't think EITHER are her permanent residences. She is
>and I say this without any hint of irony
an international star now, she has lots of commitments that require her to be sometimes stateside, sometimes in Japan

>>64191773
Post your beggar fantasies elsewhere nijinig

fuwamoco encourage their fans to buy ccv bots

>ITT: anons pretending to care about regloss one way or another

>>64191657
It's hard to say when there's so many ironic fags in the western streaming scene that makes it hard to actually try to expand to an audience that might genuinely enjoy vtubers, but the TT fags would still be very low on that list with only awful creatures such as xQc and Hasan being below them (funnily enough they actually had the latter in their podcast).

>>64191773
Tell me you are EOP without telling me you are EOP. Nice try last samurai.

>>64191791
Now I want Gooba stream with this

>Holobegging streams are a thing now
This is not Idol behavior

>>64191773
These are the anons were ran off the the JP split just because Gura cunny was posted lmao

>>64191797
And it is all due to her own hard work, and a little bit (a lot) of connections. Kiara wish she was Mori.

>>64191841
show me one EN moment that compares to this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K5h0wTrENRg

>>64191841
>anon falseflags
>anon bites
many such cases!

>>64191657
>>64191836
I genuinely can't think of a western internet personality that I'd tolerate. I've been avoiding all of them for years.

>>64190833
NO
THIS IS NOT HAPPENING
SAVIORFAG YOUR RIRKA

>>64191650
u no like?

>>64191871
The entire stream
https://youtu.be/fkSc8zoA9TA

>>64191871
>Links clip

>>64191849
She's better than that

>>64191878
this is why you stick to JP. much better environment with better people.

>>64191834
i watch ao, sadly i will not watch the VCR because i hate RP + game streams

>>64191849
Would be impossible to push out of the algo
I have to resort to Shounen, K-pop and Homestuck combined just now to defeat Miko, if Gura do it I fear only Mr.Beast can defeat her

>>64191836
>It's hard to say when there's so many ironic fags in the western streaming scene
Personally disagree but I will give you that so we can move on to the next question: do you think you can choose a better collab partner than Mori back in the days?

Filian 2mil subs had Miko begging on the cold street like a NewYork bum, gotta meet the quota by the end of the year. the corpo pressure is real.

>>64191834
It's pretty funny. But soon Re_flop will be huge success on the EN market. Two more weeks and few more Homo collabs.

>>64191871
>jpkek is a clipnig
kek

>>64191508
You're in the wrong thread, brownboy: >>64189418

>>64191869
>And it is all due to her own hard work, and a little bit (a lot) of connections.
Connections are hard work too
>Kiara wish she was Mori.
I doubt. Kiara (and notKiara) has been in this entertainment world for longer than most people in this thread even grew facial hair, she knows what it takes to succeed and NEVER EVER EVER made any movement in that direction.
Actually, she tried every single shortcut and it ALWAYS blew in her face

>>64191853
Idols have distributed flyers and begged in the streets to watch their shows. Sub-begging seems to be in line with that practice.

>>64190819
It's funny that sisters think Cover is the reason why dumb and dumber didn't do a graduation stream.

>>64191915
gura has no algo pull any more. she's actually a debuff going by her 3D live appearances and that flop song with marine.

>Copying Miko in record time

>>64191841
>>64191871
>>64191928
>t.nijisisters

>>64191853
Anon? One of the hallmarks of idol activities is "outreach", sometimes they literally do impromptu evens in town squares and ask people to buy their albums / attend their events

>>64191953
Hey anon you should check the most replayed part of Marine’s 3D live!

i dont know why but theres a sudden rise in homo begging during yuro hours

>halschizo begging for (You)s
rumao

>>64191871
I don't get it, what was supposed to be so great about this?

>>64191909
You know, from what I've seen of Japanese e-celebs, I really doubt it

>>64191955
Japanese vtubing just feels so soulless these days.

>>64191404
This send shivers down my spine

>>64191915
Yup, its too powerful
I saw alot of grays on Migo's short stream
>Just like WWE buffs but without massive ccm

>>64190833
I would like to thank Ririka and Ao for proving me right about holding out on supporting Regloss.

HOLY FUCK!
>there is really an anon so new he doesn't know about Haachama's R-18 streams
HOW THE FUCK IS THIS EVEN POSSIBLE?

>>64191570
it will complete the holy trinity

>>64191871
I genuinely think that when you take a holo away from her cute girl environment you realize it's just another woman. What a horrible thing to do, like putting some majestic multi scaled fish in a bucket

>>64191921
No collab partner is better than just TT and no a single other outsider in over 3 years, but I do think it's possible to find people who would actually help expand the brand in a healthy way and not invite a bunch of ironic fags who don't watch streams.

>>64191931
>she knows what it takes to succeed
I doubt, because as you said
>she tried every single shortcut
She probably still thinks she can do it another way.

>>64192009
I have never subbed nor watch them
>I only care about true hololive girls

>>64191886
This is the next suggested short to me as well after migo ended.

Peko VCR soon

>>64192019
Should be Shiori and Rissa there.

>>64191982
But that’s Bae, her dancing is making her incline

goldbridge 70k and rising

>>64191989
All the anons you see in the JP# thread, are most active at this hour. During EN hours they're drowned out by saplings and EN posting, during JP hours its the same, but with actual JP fans and residual EN posters

>>64191156
this is why they deliberately hamstrung regloss; now they'll be receptive to management's ideas for growth. I unsubbed from all of them.

>>64192067
What are Shiorin and Rissa looking at?

>>64192027
>No collab partner is better than just TT
So yeah, thanks for confirming. Mori make the most logical decision that have the most potential to incline hololive outside the box and the least potential for it to end badly.

>>64192067
>shiori and nerissa ninjalooting and roaching out in wow hc
>asmongoloid watching clips of it and acting like a proud father
kino

>>64192009
I did sub to Kanade, but havent watched her much.

>>64192091
>Bou score a 3rd goal right when this was posted.

[FUN FACT]
Ririka vertical stream increased over time.
Yesterday she got 1.9k and now she has 4K CCV.
Also both stream gain her 3k subs/stream totaled 6k i

>>64192027
>but I do think it's possible to find people who would actually help expand the brand
Anon, the proof is in the pudding here, just mention a single name in the whole western streaming / content creation sphere that people would go
>eh, that could work

Said name must qualify in two ways
1) it must not be "polemic" in any way: politics, behaviour, preferred topics
2) it must not be a midget with more to gain from leeching from Hololive than to offer

I genuinely can't think of any. No, wait, I can think of one
>I could see a HoloEN - Tom Scott collaboration
but I don't think ANY of the HoloEN girls dabble in "sciency" topics to warrant such collaboration.

Other than that, I'm drawing a blank here

>>64192015
Influx of newfags during advent debut where haachama was inactive.

>>64191570
I would love to see FWMC collab with Asmongold. Let's be honest, even the CGDCT crowds wouldn't complain about such a collab because Asmongold is huge.

>>64192136
1 was on a weekday, the other in the weekend. might make a difference, no?

>>64190833
She was my favorite regloss too. What a shame.

>>64192136
she got pushed by Algo

HoloEN - Nicocado collab is the way to go.

>>64192136
nigga she had 2 vert streams with over 3k peak. This one was 4k, which can easily just be the time of day, the lack of competition and other factors. What is this retardation

>>64190920
So the vtubers themselves had to have noticed this by now, right? What do they even think of it? the actual narrative behind the bots (some schizo is trying to shit on a random thread in 4chan that tracks numbers) is so obscure and unrelated to any of the popular vtuber narratives like parasocial fans or whatever that I'm not even sure the vtubers themselves would think. How would you even explain this situation? Imagine if Selen wants to brag about the numbers for this event but now she can't because the graph is sus to even a casual viewer.

>>64192166
has a huge dick yeah

>you need muh ecelebs for growth
Just another homobegger angle spliced in with JPfags coping about how HoloJP is doing it

I literally see no incline for HoloJP from eceleb shittery btw, but that's masked about how they're always on the rise so its easy for people to act like this shit is the cause

>>64192217
If the faggots in r/virtualyoutubers know about it, you can assume management would as well.

>>64192043
I follow her career from way before she debuted on HoloEN, she reminds me a little bit of Dick Dastardly, from the Wacky Race.
In SEVERAL occasions (like Dastardly) she was ahead in the race and could just cruise to victory, but then she decided to take a shortcut / do something to get a bigger advantage and fumbled it.

As an example, I offer her current Kiara incarnation. She has a VERY FUCKING PLEASANT VOICE, you can hear than when she did her Twitter Spaces (likely with a different mic setting) but she absolutely refuses to fix that for her live streams and it holds her back tremendously for three years now.
Likewise, she can be very entertaining when she picks a decent game or subject for talk but she ALWAYS retreats to talking about herself and her IRL escapades and nobody body the current crop of KFP yes-men wants to hear about that.

>>64192166
Shut up nigger, I fucking hate asmongoloid

>>64192249
HoloJP is more well known in japanese streaming while HoloEN is insular as fuck

>>64192159
Do you remember Nick Pitera? I don't think he's been on youtube for a long time but someone like that would have been ok.

>>64192286
>HoloEN is insular as fuck
BASED BASED BASED

>>64192217
>How would you even explain this situation?
>>64191567

>>64192115
>least potential for it to end badly
Do we live in the same reality? It ended horribly with her cutting all interaction with TT as Mori after that Welsh fag couldn't stop himself from resentful that the Hololive audience will give more importance to new Holo debuts than some random 2view indie and the hafu's 10-minute rant about Nene on Playboy that ended up being posted as a clip on their channel.

>>64192159
>but I don't think ANY of the HoloEN girls dabble in "sciency" topics to warrant such collaboration.
Unironically Shiori.

>>64192113
Me

>>64192205
I can't wait for Fauna and Nicocado offcollabs mukbang - 100 beef burgers without the patties covered with fried bacons and panko.

>>64192274
>(likely with a different mic setting)
She could just get a new mic, drop the chicken voice at the same time and blame the change on the mic. No one would complain or think too much of it.

>>64192091
MMMM THE SEETHE. AAAAHHH. DELICIOUS

>>64192217
Youtube probably gives them more specific(/correct) graphs, numbers with the suspected number of bots separated or some shit. Intern-kun please confirm.

>>64192286
>HoloEN is insular as fuck
And that's a good thing.

>>64192286
Yes and? How did this place go from
>god I love how these girls give something the rest of the market doesn't, this is what we need in streaming
to
>well actually scratch that, please whore yourselves out to the ecelebs it's not enough for me that you dominate the vtuber market because Ironmouse is also around and she gets eceleb attention

>>64192324
>panko
oh no wonder, the homobeggar was a phasefag

>>64192159
The yogscast

>>64192286
holoEN is completely irrelevant. ironmouse alone mogs all of them combined.

>>64192321
>Do we live in the same reality?
Yes we do, but the difference is that you have a 20/20 hindsight.

>>64192297
Anon, he's past his prime by at least some six years. That's part of my general point
>nobody can point out anyone in the north american and western scene that 1) would be acceptable and 2) wouldn't be a leech
I could EASILY see an Ina-Bob Ross collab but, sadly, they would require a necromancer and .... yeah .... Hololive is one short right now

>>64192286
Good, and long may it stay that way.

>>64192286
>HoloEN is insular as fuck
Congrats you've stumbled upon HoloEN's appeal and niche.
You are literally being a suit right now
>yes yes we seem to be doing great with our product
>NOW MAKE IT APPEAL TO EVERYONE
Retards like you almost sank HoloEN with the homo shit.

>>64190833
Unsubbed, Fuck I had just warmed up to her and started watching the past 2 weeks. Fucking shame

The walled garden was one of the best things to happen to Holo, even if it was from the necessity of the rest of the industry turning their back on them, and it really helped build up the close-knit feeling of the fanbase and streamers.
I'm sad it's getting less and less prevalent, especially in JP, these days.

>>64192382
BASED BASED BASED
IM ZASED

>>64192367
Its the the IMfag and probably one of the nijinigs from the split crying over EN again

>>64192342
Anon, bots and other fuckery get filtered out yea.
That sort of stuff gets snuffed out, and its reflected in the CCV as well (view-botting is different than CCV botting, and tends to get around the automated systems by using some degree of human action).
So yea, they're definitely aware, but they've also probably been told not to worry about it.

>>64192274
The chicken voice is basically her trademark and her charm point now, if you can believe it. Also she knew what people want to watch and what people don't want to watch, and yet still stream garbage during garbage hour, so I will give you that.

>>64192388
My 20/20 hindsight is knowing that TT was a podcast full of Japan-hating ironic weebs before HoloEN was even a thing but I guess inviting these fags' audience was a completely sound idea.

>>64192286
>HoloEN is insular
That's exactly the reason I watch them. If I wanted anything else, I would watch something else. Not unsurprising a beggar like you can't see it though.

>>64192381
Dead for years and years.

>>64192427
I dunno how brains fried /here/ and suddenly it's
>WE NEED ASMONGOLD AND XQC AND CHARLIE TO COLLAB WITH FWMC NOW

>>64192395
>Anon, he's past his prime by at least some six years
yeah me too... I only watch old men using machine tools now so I don't know anyone popular but there must be someone inoffensive out there

>>64192321
>Unironically Shiori.
Anon, Tom Scott doesn't deal with "pop science" or "I love science, I watched Big Bang Theory!", he usually deals with serious science subjects and even when not, having a "dumb anime girl" as his partner would be a detriment for both

>>64192381
>The yogscast
LITERALLY streaming right now something that would fail "1) it must not be "polemic" in any way: politics, behaviour, preferred topics"

>>64192419
just go watch some 3view gfe chuubas

Please Kiara, don't put that t-shirt on.

>>64192406
what appeal? they regularly get mogged by vshojo and twitch indies.

>>64192019
Asmon is already taken, find your own males
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=anBWKALlmf4

>>64192419
That is just a cope. Pekora did a lot of outside collab. Her fans and the circle of creators don't love her less because of that.

>>64192286
>HoloEN is insular as fuck
and that's exactly what we want, we don't really want them to grow and end up like IM

>>64192043
That's the reason why Kiara wouldn't want to be Mori. Kiara want to be popular in the fashion that she choose for herself. She could perform much better by following a lot of trends and FOTM, but she instead want to become popular in her own way.
Which isn't really succesful, but It's something I can understand.

>>64192466
I wanna see a shiori+vsauce collab.

I never heard of these guys before but they look like absolute faggots. hard pass.

>>64192466
>. I only watch old men using machine tools now
kek, the "other" rabbit hole got you too? I don't even own a car but somehow youtube started suggesting "blokes explaining / fixing engines" and I'm a goner, constantly watching this sort of videos.

>>64192455
>TT was a podcast full of Japan-hating ironic weebs
Can you give me an example? Also who would you rather collab with, non holo of course, if you were Mori?

>>64192499
Don't you have anything better to do with your life? That shit was even a non sequitur, are you a bot?

>>64192502
>Pekora did a lot of outside collab
How many in 2023?

>>64192486
>>64192533
>yogscast
>1k
Never let any schizo claim holoEN isnt doing well in the EN streaming market

>lived to see /#/ become eceleb beggers because Ironmouse won some shitty award no one cares about

>>64191570
>WoW

I think holoen should collab with my flesh oshi gorgc.

>>64192419
They don't need walled garden anymore. Some of the members like towa, matsuri and laplus are more interested in external collabs instead of internal collabs. This era of CDGCT is kind of over, that feeling of Hololive being the all girls highschool group has ended.

*FINAL EN COPE TALLY OF THE DAY IS IN*

>12/09 TALLY (1.000 - 4.999)
4.315: Bettel (Holostars) | Party Animals w/ Tempus VG & Armis
3.943: Pomu (Nijisanji) | Fortnite
3.255: Luca (Nijisanji) | Post-Cover Chatting
3.051: Elira (Nijisanji) | Honkai: Star Rail
2.959: Doppio (Nijisanji) | Handcam Stream
2.710: Ike (Nijisanji) | Just Chatting
2.651: Selen (Nijisanji) | Fortnite
2.537: Axel (Holostars) | Just Chatting
2.134: Maria (Nijisanji) | Karaoke Stream
2.151: Octavio (Holostars) | Party Animals w/ Armis & Tempus VG
2.094: Reimu (Nijisanji) | Super Mario Bros. Wonder Zuttoღo Collab
1.890: Sonny (Nijisanji) | Super Mario RPG
1.801: Meloco (Nijisanji) | Just Chatting
1.656: Kotoka (Nijisanji) | Karaoke Stream
1.638: Octavio (Holostars) | Unarchived Karaoke Rebroadcast
1.512: Vantacrow (Nijisanji) | Pokémon Scarlet
1.225: Alban (Nijisanji) | Apex Legends
1.117: Uki (Nijisanji) | Minecraft
1.059: Shinri (Holostars) | Just Chatting
1.038: Vantacrow (Nijisanji) | Phogs! w/ Kyo

>>64192600
Its euro hours, what do you expect?

what about Colin Furze? I'd watch a holo collab with Colin Furze. Is PhotonicInduction still alive?

>>64192570
3

How did you guys land on this topic again

>>64192542
Why the fuck you're always coming back to "who would you collab with then"? Are you some TT fan who's hurt that I called your fags "ironic weebs"? Gonna justify the Welsh faggot's rant about new Holo debuts getting "undeserved" attention? Jesus, I'm starting to think that you "down the walled garden" types jerk off to the mere idea of a Holo collabing with fucking Hasan.

HoloEN should collab with Joe Biden and Donald Trump. The presidential race will 100% incline the branch. I am expecting 1M ccv no less if the collab ever happen.

>>64192533
How the times change...
Tom's good though.

>>64192502
Anon, Pekora is the worst example you can use, even until now she still only have like 6 outside collabs? (If you base on number of streams) She is barely the JP with most number of outside collab

>>64192606
He needs to win a TI first

so out of all the holos joining vcr who can honestly incline from it?
Botan, Ao, Ririka, Mel, Aki, Matsuri, Laplus
Towa likely won't join

>>64192654
If we're going that way, how about Styropyro?

>>64192662
Nijinigs from the split got told to go back, so they decided to shit up the thread instead

>>64192645
It was happening in JP hours too

>>64191849
Gura isn't a numberwhore, she would stay far away when she finds out it pushes you in the algorithm.

>>64192600
The future of EN is for Ironmouse, the award is just the start

>>64192613
Then make it end faster so I can finally have an excuse to drop this hobby and never go back to this garbage board.

>>64192600
Anon, people are discussing the exact OPPOSITE of that, that there is nobody in the whole western scene that would be a good fit for HoloEN and, hence, they're better off alone
>>64192592
>Never let any schizo claim holoEN isnt doing well in the EN streaming market
Any Fauna, Mumei or FWMC 10k outranks pretty much the ENTIRE western streaming scene except for some very exceptional cases, SPECIALLY given the fact they're doing it on Youtube of all places

What a wild world where 90% of you fumed out the mouth over TT yet are now sucking the cocks of ecelebs...

>>64192667
>Are you some TT fan
No I just want you to give a concrete name other than TT that Mori should collab with instead of TT.

>>64192600
Yeah man, this thread during even Luxiem’s peak was better than this shit we have now. Where the fuck is my holobros and where the fuck are the shitposters with above room temperature iq……

>>64192662
Schizos like to repeat topics over and over again

>>64192701
There's a solution to this problem.

>>64192689
None, they all will fall back to their usual numbers after the bump.
> But muh aki
Archive reps

>>64192659
Three doesn't seem like "a lot" for someone that had 317 streams between Jan 1st and Nov 30th.

>>64192645
>>64192701
Are there any regions that have overlap in the weekends with both JP and Euro hours?

stfu and listen to my Yoshika's singing stream
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sd7jbfj0A5g

>>64192683
She is in fact the best example. People always had an illusion that sankisei never did outside collab and attribute their incline to the wall garden, No matter how many collabs she did, the fact is that the wall garden is not there anymore and she is still inclining in spite of that. This proved that wall garden helping the holos is just pure bullshit.

IRyS should spam shorts streams and beat Mumei to 1 million.

>>64192731
And the funniest thing is that, JP have never close off completely to outside collab, the like of Suisei, Towa, Matsuri, etc still does outside collab all the time even in 2021 and 2022
So the spergout that only happen NOW seem very dishonest

>>64192731
I am the representative of /#/, we like e-celebs now
Also we are trans now too btw

>>64192450
She has 3-4k diehards and a tiny bit of tourist traffic that will come through if nobody else is streaming. She's not charming anybody.

>>64192703
Gura is just jaded that no one cares about you unless they are tryna leech.

>>64192533
They were absolutely huge when Minecraft multiplayer was released, but poor game and brand management tanked them hard. Even a channel that had 7 million subs back 10+ years ago can tank themselves with bad choices. Vtubers need to make smart choices.

>>64192736
I don't have any because they're either not big enough to help grow Hololive or completely divorced from the same sphere Hololive is and that still doesn't justify collabing with TT when they brought fuck all to the table outside of unironic beggars.

>>64192731
Anon, people are discussing the exact OPPOSITE of that, that there is nobody in the whole western scene that would be a good fit for HoloEN and, hence, they're better off alone

>>64192731
As I said, Mori was too ahead of the time for her own good. She did the right thing.

>>64192731
tldr?

>>64192533
They were pretty fun before they started appealing to children. I’ll still watch Sips streams occasionally.

>>64192601
>he wouldnt join the guild run by his oshi and then fight a mak'gora for a raid spot so you can princess carry your oshi through the raid
gay

>>64192798
Do you know why? Because she still mostly stay within the box
I mean like cmon now, even in those sponsored Minecraft event, she is still in a full Holo team. In the first place using only her as example already seem dishonest

>>64192847
>tldr?
Here is the best I can give you
>anons are saying "there is no eceleb in the western scene worthy of collabing with HoloEN"
and anons are pretending people are saying the opposite

>>64192817
>3-4k diehards
>She's not charming anybody
?

>>64192847

>>64192533
i member...

Goldbridge 90k DORYAAAAAA

Welp, my wife is ready to work now.

picrel would be a good fit for an off collab, preferably once a week

>>64192827
Well pretty much I can say that TT was the only choice Mori had back then and that's it.

surely they don't think they're blending in right?

>>64192009
I blocked them all on debut and I’m so glad I did
Never get close to girls who Cover has basically designated as whores

>>64192792
I wonder who that could be...

>All these flesh e-celeb worshipper
My oshi are Reimu and Marisa

>>64192829
Vinny is the closest one and he would only work with like 3 of the girls

This thread become more dum dum

hey relating to numbers, these guys were huge, always on 'front page' until youtube softbanned organizations/agency - same thing is or might start happening to hololive and other big vtuber corpos in the future.

>>64192883
Why larp as if the argument you're bringing forth is the only one being stated? It's not "anons", it's fucking you.

Don't pretend /#/ hasn't been under siege by both JPnigs and IMfag about how EN should totes break the walled garden, it sucks, they should do the IM thing and attach themselves to some bigger male and trade away all fans love about them

>>64192912
Sorry for your loss Ririka fag….

>>64192073

I hate Homostar
I hate WokeSanji
I hate Vwhorejo
And I will never watch them
Heil Hololive
888888888888888888

>>64191955
Eh, these are just trends t bh

>>64192947
Ofcourse, how could I not have known? Except I did.

>>64192963
That's because I'm looking for new cunny pics and not really posting here.

>>64192965
Hololive is already softbanned

>>64192671
I legit would like this to happen, probably as a moderator of the debate. It will definitely expose hololive to more people and 1M ccv is not a dream.

>>64192970

>>64191404
Fuck man, that's cute

Reminder that only reason anyone wants HoloEN to collab with ecelebs is out of spite and wanting to kill HoloEN because they don't pander to them. Beggars don't want unity, they want HoloEN GONE.

>>64193022
Confusing post. Nijiniggers especially would love if HoloEN came down to their level, after all they had sucked eceleb cock since the very start it's just that ecelebs wanted prettier whores

>>64192600
>Ironmouse won some shitty award no one cares about
It is funny that you don't care about the award but keep mentioning it anyway. More importantly, it actually make some people seethe.

>>64192970
This shit isn’t even new, this thread turned to shit since the homos debut and people riding them to shit on Nijishits. This thread got replaced by actual number fags with “people” that want frequent change.

>>64193042
Everyone knows this but anons are being exploited in a vulnerable time because:
HoloJP is doing it so anons have to defend them.
IM won some award so now some weak pure numberfags crave this.

A bunch of eceleb collabing whores was literally what everyone feared HoloEN would be before debut, it's hilarious to see people now arguing its what they should become.

Most of the content creators I enjoy stay away from other content creators and do their own thing. RLM doesn’t fuck with other movie reviewers and at most will occasionally do a video with a minor Hollywood celebrity like McCauley Culkin.

>>64192970
Walled garden? What walled garden? Is it something similar to invisible guns?

You bunch of retards remind me of when a lucub successfully gaslit anons into thinking wanting EN3=nijinig. If you are not a newfag you would remember this.

>>64191650
Got to invest the kiddies watching shorts somehow so they stay longer
What I really want is AZKi one

Pick your seat

>>64193080
I...are you stupid? Yes I'm going to mention the award and its effects, how is that seething or how does that prove it was a relevant award? Cause it affected 3 retards in /#/?

Kiara don't go...

>>64193062
>HoloJPnigs
>HoloENnigs
You always reveal yourself, sister.

>>64192829
they just ain't big enough for Messi or Ronaldo. Skill issue.

>>64193142
ok but I still think no one would have been mad about colin furze so I win and TT is gay forever

>>64193154
Between Taso, Sora and Peko. I'm gonna skip class if I get any other seat.

>>64193154
>second last seat over the window is already taken
I am not attending this class.

>>64193138
Pretending to be retarded won't win you any arguments.

>>64192939
That's like telling someone that they can only chose between shooting themselves or throwing themselves off a bridge. The interactions with TT only brought problems for her for an entire year until she finally stopped trying to convince people that those fags were remotely decent and stopped bringing them up altogether as Mori, but by then the damage was already done and a huge contingent of the future beggars were "fans" who came from the TT podcast.

>JPnigs viciously defending male fleshbag collabs and mixed streamer servers
How did it come to this?

>>64193120
>it's hilarious to see people now arguing its what they should become.
Anon you've been overtaken by your own delusions.

>>64193199
Ah yes because there's definitely absolutely no tribalism coming from JP fags in these threads. All nijiniggers. I've never even heard of /hlg/ actually! Probably a nijinigger psyop

>>64193217
Pretending that holoEN stagnated because of no outside collabs won't make you win any argument either.

>>64193129
Yeah same, idk what’s the fucking appeal. My only fav fleshstreamer literally told raid beggars that they already knew who his friends were but they didn’t watch them unless he was streaming with them so what’s the point.

>>64193222
One of the funniest things is that they are her PERSONAL IRL FRIENDS and, yet, the level of respect they gave to her career choice was not even zero, it was negative.
They treat the wife of one of the TT retards with more deference and she's a fucking sex worker, work an Onlyfans and a career or reviewing sex toys.

Mori surely can pick her friends...

>>64193222
Did the TT crowd murdered your father or something?

I think the world would be a better place if I could push my face between Shiori's thighs

>>64193261
What? You are literally arguing with someone stating the opposite, you fucking schizo turn off friendly fire and learn to be useful to the side you're arguing for

>>64193154
Between gura, marine, peko and Kanata

>>64193154
First row far right