/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

More like cuck connect lmao

>>64137466
Women management. They gave them enough freedom and support to be whatever they wanted.

Shit competition.

>>64137466
The answer to most questions about PC is 'mental illness.

>>64137674

Rio ron probs had more freedom than them though

>>64137665
No, more like menhera harem connect

>>64137466
They pander to the lowest common denominator. Conservative white upperclass NEETS living off of trust funds that have never touched a boob in their life.
It's a good model to make easy money.

Didn't the bear blurt out what university she attended on stream? Anyone remember what university it was?

Pippa brings in a shitload of money
Using this money they hired more people and advertised the brand.
Plus tons of pippa fans doing free advertising for them.
4chan on their side helps tremendously

Now they're growing rapidly and will soon rise to the #3 spot behind Holo and Vshojo

>>64137759
Freedom to sleep with a nearby manager?
Freedom to do drugs while streaming?
She got fired for that. (From what I hear) and no one is sleeping with Sakana or any of the other ladies.

And as example, the one departing member of the company was let go *quietly* so as to protect her and the companies reputation.

>>64137761
>attractive
>married
>ran a successful startup that was raking in cash
>decided to start a vtuber company that hires exclusively menheras
How did this happen?

>>64137852
>They pander to the lowest common denominator.
That IS the whole business model, anon. All vtubing is a thing because there are massive amounts of lonely people, schizotypal people that can only love objects or ideas from afar. The mental illness of the talent are nothing compared to their audience in most cases. Kronii, Gura, Mel, Choco, no different form Pippa, Panko, Lia

>>64137892
>4chan on their side helps tremendously
Not half as much as you might think

>>64137852
Female post

>>64137466
they have management who does not fuck their talents

>>64138120
I doubt it. Looks more like male post.

t femanon ITT

>>64138155
>>64137674

And though abut half of them are probably bi, they don't live near management, so this is a weird/uncommon issue

>>64137466
While I like the corpo, I believe gen 3 will really fuck them up, where the hell was the filter

>>64137852
vast majority of vtuber fans that I know are asian, followed by hispanic, followed by white. Even if you count hispanic as white there's still more asians.

Phase has 5 really strong natural growers. Pippa is a mini Holo, and Tenma, Lia, Lumi and Shiina are all extremely strong.

>>64138337
>I believe gen 3 will really fuck them up
how so?

>>64138474
Probably just doomposting about K**a

>>64138191
LONDON

>>64138191
I'm a dude. I just hate how pandery and political phase is. I just want cute girls being cute not some crazy Appalachian redneck screaming about glowies and globalista posting her guns and feet.

>>64138654
Just don't watch Pippa

>>64138474
phase connect is a gen1 company and their gen1 will always be the flagship.
they go as gen1 goes, especially since tenma and lia both took massive steps this year and uruka is making a charge.

>>64138753
Jelly is on the rise. She just needs a big break and she'll be massive.

>>64137945
>attractive
he's like 5'5

>>64138851
define massive.
Phase Connect is never going to be a music company. Her strengths are not what make Phase good and make Phase stand out.

>>64138654
>Still complaining about first year Pippa
Being oneself isn't pandering. She's been off the "political" rants for awhile, but no matter how many times she filters those crazies they keep coming back, to "correct" her or some shit. Don't blame her for their mental illness.

https://i.4cdn.org/wsg/1701991346955889.webm

>>64138989
Low tier Holo.
She's a great streamer too.

>>64138909
being a millionaire adds six inches

>>64138909
You would

>>64139265
sponsored by onions

>>64139038
She is alright whenever I watch her. there is nothing remarkable about her or her streaming content. Jelly's music and singing, on the other hand, is top shelf.

The standout singers/musicians in Phase all are behind the rest of the company. It's because that is not what makes Phase Connect special and stand out. If people want music and singing, that stuff is dime a dozen in this industry and there are other small corpos who do it a lot better than Phase

>>64139108
yeah, mine

>>64139355
sakana is now trying attempt #3 at making phase a music company. 3 of his 4 top talents can't sing to save their lives.

>>64139011
She's reaping what she sowed, no sympathy for her or her company

>>64139519
Lame twitter-headed notion.
God, both your camps suck ass.

How badly did she fuck up?

>>64137466
Are you trying to jinx their corpo, anon

>>64139911
He's a third worlder trying to get people who only know second hand information about Phase Connect to shit on it

>>64139911
people have been trying to jinx them since 2 months in. I don't know what it would take to kill them.

>>64139858
Despite trying to keep it quiet and respectable, the internet finds out. Embezzlement. Now let it go, please.

>>64138654
That’s literally just Pippa. I’d argue the main reason that Phase is inclining is that the other girls are getting noticed. Lia, Tenma, Shiina, Lumi…
/pcg/ is divided into capipis who only care about their “based” oshi and no one else, and everyone else. Which is all to say that Phase Connect is way more than just Pippa.

>>64139858
>was on the team
>gets fired
>Phase starts taking off almost as soon as she leaves
>major sponsorships
>major collabs
>her friends are now all pushing 4view or higher and making dreams come true
>will be named the Top Rising Vtuber Company in 1week
>now is swimming alone in a sea of 150 ccv twitch, waiting for kirsche to call
it's pretty bad

>>64140356
I would trade all 4 invaders for Yuri back in an instant.

>>64139858
Yuri...

>>64140415
She's doing better than she was in Phase. If you actually cared you'd just keep watching her.

>>64140522
>She's doing better
in what metric? is she even streaming again? she disappeared for 2months.

>>64140577
uhhh she got the indie merch deal that every indie has. and gamersups. and gets to talk with vee openly now

Having a CEO as autistic as the talents means there's no sexpest shenanigans.

>>64139355
You wouldn't get it unless you have a certain type of male brain

They have a hag that isn't afraid to smack all the other retards upside the head when they try to burn down the company

Is Shiina having her Lia redemption moment? Girl's been going hard on the streaming after all the donothon shit.

>>64141539
The donothon stuff wasn't real outside of /pcg/

>>64140688
what are you on?

>>64137852
> They pander to the lowest common denominator. Conservative white upperclass NEETS living off of trust funds that have never touched a boob in their life
Funny I’ve seen this being said about both Hololive and VShojo, too - arguably the most successful EN corpos at the moment. Maybe PC is doing something right after all

>>64139463
Are we talking about Lumi for the fourth one? Her problem, of course, is that even if her songs got popular, the algorithm can’t exactly throw twitch streams into the recommended bar.
Shiina’s been doing well recently, although one problem is she’s doing it by playing a bunch of nerd shit like yugioh and warhammer. That might be too niche to the kinds of people who discover her songs and then get her streams recommended to them.
As far as I can tell, Jelly is still the best bet for Phase to have a truly famous vsinger who draws in viewers to the company’s streams. But the fact that the best singers and the best streamers in the corpo are different is a major issue.

>>64141835
Shiina is doing well by being the biggest pickme in the company. Her love for Yugioh is genuine but the gunpla/Warhammer/Halo shit rings so hollow and just seems like she's copying Lumi.

Jelly is a great singer even if her streams are on a whole other level of autism. Hopefully now that she went to the doctor Uruka can start doing more music as well.

>>64141715
Most of the Phase talents’ roommates are troon lovers with liberal political opinions that are mostly typical for young women. And that’s perfectly fine. They don’t bring up political shit while vtubing, and they stick to creating content that fits Phase’s brand of “CGDCT but schizo.”
That’s what Hololive does too, and that’s what most of the newer vshojo members who have been inclining are doing too (just *look* at matara kan’s rm. she’s a raging sjw but knows to keep that shit separate).
Everyone in Phase (except Pippa, and even she’s toned it down) is popular because their content is entertaining and they don’t then ruin it by shoehorning politics where people don’t expect it. And their audience is made up of people who appreciate that.
In fact, I think Phase getting big enough for the apolitical talents (ie not Pippa) to get noticed is why it’s inclining. You can be a leftist and like Lia’s or Tenma’s streams. You might even catch Pippa in a collab and realize she’s funny when she doesn’t have to constantly tardwrangle her chat.
>tldr: fishman was right. Politics filters viewers no matter what side of the spectrum it’s on

>>64141835
Most of Shiina's standout content compared to the rest of Phase lately is art and handcams, her 40k stuff is secondary and just her trying new stuff but she explicitly said she's not a "40k vtuber" she just goes through phases of stuff that grabs her attention like Tanagochi or gunpla or stationary and pens.
>>64142562
>pickme
I've never seen a comment with that word that wasn't just whining and seething. Saying she's copying Lumi is also pointless tribalism because if you watched Lumi you'd have heard her say in her last Holoknight stream how much she loves Shiina and is the one that's pushing Halo stuff on her and that Remi is also getting into 40k. Friends share interests Being mad that friends share interests is pure brainrot.

>>64143166
Shiina is actual diagnosed autism like Lia, right? That would explain the "phase of interest in stuff" thing. I agree, I associate her more with her art streams. Also it's funny when people talk so much shit about Lumi when all of the talents have said unprompted that she's one of the nicest girls in the company.

>>64139265
I've said it before and I'll say it again: this nigga is the most Kevin-looking chink I've ever seen.

They bought ads

Also Shiina is genuinely very good, like Ina if she weren't boring

>>64142562
>Hopefully now that she went to the doctor Uruka can start doing more music as well.
Uruka’s practically the poster child for Phase’s problem of the good singers having weak numbers on their stream. I don’t know why Uruka’s considered one of the weaker members of the corpo, since I didn’t really follow Uruka much until the recent campfire karaokes. I know she wasn’t streaming because of health issues until recently. Are there any other reasons she isn’t one of the more popular members of the company?

>>64140522
You're comparing her as an indie now, to her in Phase several months ago. Apples and oranges. Phase has inclined quite a bit since then, and a rising tide lifts all boats. So I think it's safe to say that she'd be doing even better if she was doing whatever she's doing now--but under Phase. Saying this as someone who liked Yuri, and still watches her as an indie. She made a mistake, and that's that.

>>64137466
I've got to ask because it's been bugging me
Is the blue bear looking thing a tranny?
It's voice literally ruins collabs for me I can't hear it without thinking "troon"

>>64143166
I definitely prefer her handcam streams, mostly because I don’t care about 40k or any of that other stuff she’s trying out regardless of whether she’s doing it to pander or not.
It’s not even because it’s her hands. I just like seeing her show off stuff related to her hobbies. Plus, I also use fountain pens and buy expensive notebooks with fancy paper (I buy unlined ones and use them as sketchbooks; they cost the same but the paper’s smoother). That gives me a bias.

>>64143572
>Are there any other reasons she isn’t one of the more popular members of the company?
I don't think she has a solid niche that she consistently panders to.
Like you and others have said, she hasn't been able to make music her niche because of her health issues. And she also doesn't have the react content niche like Pippa, or the RTS niche like Lumi, the art streams like Shiina, or even something like Dizzy's OOC. She doesn't really have a "thing" that she can build a reputation around.
I personally like watching her because she has good zatsus I can listen to while I work, and I like her personality, but that alone isn't really something you can market to a broad audience of normies who have never heard of Phase.

>>64143837
Women can have deepish voices retard. And she doesn't have that obvious vocal fry that's typical of trannies who've been voice training.

>>64143837
she sounds like half of the college age chinese american girls I meet

>>64137466
Phaseniggers are fucking aids.

>>64143930
Yeah she's very cute when she talks about stuff she likes. I imagine you already know she's showing off her pens this Sunday.

>>64144036
I know they can shitter I was just asking because I wasn't sure
I didn't think she was, especially since I don't see pippa streaming with a tranny
I wanted to like her cus her model is actually pretty good and she's in a lot of collabs, just had to make sure
Still don't like her voice very much but as long as it's not some fag troon in my cute girls stream I can suffer it

>>64143837
Uruka isn't a tranny. She's just Chinese.

>>64137466
None of their vtubers feel like vtubers. They have a market on weird, out of pocket, and shitpost when it comes to vtubers. I have friends who have never watched vtubers watching Lia just for the unhinged weird ass rants she goes on about some niche internet autism she likes. Same friends will send me Hime's shitpost shorts out of nowhere and they couldn't name a single Niji or Holo if their life depended on it.
That's why I think they do so well and their growth is doing well. It's a grey area between a vtuber and a retarded girls doing non-twitch thot streams. That grey area is where they pick up their audience.

>>64143572
I think it's partially because Uruka is a giant dork. Like an actual, antisocial awkward dork. I love the bear but it's deff whiplash for people who are used to the "teehee I'm so nerdy" type.

>>64144297
>especially since I don't see pippa streaming with a tranny
Ah, yeah, you're definitely new. Sorry, I was too harsh.
>Still don't like her voice very much
You will take the sultry-voiced woman pill soon enough.

>>64144297
Listen to her sing. That'll fix your issue.

>>64144465
>Uruka is a giant dork. Like an actual, antisocial awkward dork.
This is exactly what I love about her. Hnnng

>>64144208
>>64144346
Huh.. I didn't know Chinese girls seem to have deeper voices around their 20s
Then again pretty much the only time I hear a Chinese girls voice she's got a high pitch moan going

>>64144297
>I didn't think she was, especially since I don't see pippa streaming with a tranny

These harines, I swear.

>>64140577
Guess you should have donated more.
You're both leeches.

>>64144612
>These harines, I swear.
This isn't really a harine take, this is more of a late-Capipi/tourist take. They know better now, but this is what they were like as new tourists.
t. late-Capipi who now knows better
A harine take would be "Pippa loves trannies, and that's good! More male collabs plz".

>>64144485
I'm pretty knew to both Phase for watching VTubers, and 4chan as a whole, so yeah
I wonder how me saying Pippa wouldn't stream with trannies gave it away, has she done that before or something?

>>64144560
I'm not really a fan of deeper voices on girls both when they talk and in song
But who knows, now I'm going to try giving those collabs a chance I might find I actually like her

>>64144405
>retarded girls doing non-twitch thot streams
That's what Hololive was before it became a giant. Minecraft shenanigans, Haachama "cooking", that one Matsuri clip, that was the stuff that made people notice Hololive. I like what Holo is now, everything they do is just on a different level to basically the rest of the industry, but I think it's important to remember how they got to where they are now.

>>64144754
Please lurk for 30 years

>>64144754
>I'm pretty new to both Phase for watching VTubers, and 4chan as a whole

Listen, theres nothing here for you. Nothing here is helpful or going to enrich your experience in ANY hobby you have. You will not have deep, meaningful conversations here. You will become cynical and hate other people that do not even exist in the real world.
Leave now.

>>64144754
How the hell did you get here

>>64144754
It’s because Pippa has toned down the politics considerably for, like, the past year. Her chat is still a place where /pol/tards types are tolerated as long as they don’t break containment. That gives a reputation that Pippa currently panders to that segment of the internet more than she actually does.
Also, Pippa’s rm is fine with troons, as is pretty much everyone in the company. They just don’t feel the need to go all “trans rights” over every little thing twitter gets mad about

>>64144754
>I wonder how me saying Pippa wouldn't stream with trannies gave it away
People arguing over whether Pippa is "le based" or not is a constant timeloop that is discussed to death.
But people who have been around long enough are privy to certain knowledge about her that proves she has a very weird mix of views at best, and is just a grifter at worst.
Personally, I'm in the former camp. She does have some based takes that I appreciate, but she really is more of the prog lolbertarian type, and most of the "based" stuff she says are just jokes. Regardless, her views definitely aren't full-on /pol/. Fortunately or unfortunately, depending on who you ask.

>>64144866
>>64144945
I'm using this place to escape the cesspools of Twitter, which I used to escape the cesspools of Reddit
Please allow me refuge here while I find my next place
Besides, I like looking at the yab drama and occasionally seeing posts for things I didn't know about the VTubers I like, good and bad

>>64144813
Holo got attention that way now they have to jump the shark or keep on the cutting edge of the industry. A 3D model, or live 3D concert is great and all, but individual streams and the retarded girl streams are where you need to start. Small corpos almost always try to jump the shark off the get-go without even getting a base level audience.
For example, Rin Penrose's shorts got her where she is now, but no one can name a single short from Calie, Fauna, or Shiori that isn't a clip or a real interesting look into their character, who they are, or why you would want to watch them play "Game of the month" for an hour. Meanwhile, Rin found a way to bring people in from a completely different area to her streams, regardless of how big the margins are, while other corpos are spitting out song cover after song cover thinking they will get the next Irys if they throw enough at the wall.

>>64144977
>as is pretty much everyone in the company
Why the "pretty much" qualifier? If Pippa is fine with troons, then everyone else *definitely* is, because no one else has given as much of an indication of being anti-troon as Pippa has.

>>64145071
>escape the cesspools of Reddit
>escape the cesspools of Twitter,
>Please allow me refuge here while I find my next place

Femanon, what I'm trying to tell you is you've come to the COMPLETELY wrong place to do that.

>>64142987
That's all well and good but they were known as the "based" corp and that's gonna be hard to shake going for mass appeal.
Like if I had a rainbow flag in my handle and commented in chat i bet some of the fans would dog pile on me.

>>64145236
Please don't comment on things you are so ignorant on. Thank you.

>>64145236
Didn't one them say to give tranners the rope?

>>64145148
I always found it funny that in between the coomers, shitposts, antis, and love boxing; we get some actual insightful posts and thoughts.
But anyways, kys you closeted homo.

>>64145275
I love urugas sweatdrop expression

>>64144977
>>64145056
Truthfully I'm one of the tourists that found her because of the Pikamee, Hogwarts Legacy, Twitter drama
I stuck around at first just watching clips and I loved her chaotic energy and the way her and Tenma bounce off of each other so well
One of the first streams I really made sure to catch and watch fully with Pippa actually included the 3 of them with their recent Minecraft stream.
I do still see the occasional based takes, she doesn't seem to talk about troons or the gay group much but from her takes on liberals and all the ATF/2A rights I assumed her opinions on that group
I see her kind of like Asmongold, who I know she likes actually. She doesn't really outright talk about a lot of the politics or issues, but sometimes expresses certain takes that definitely make you feel like they're based but keeping it under wraps for appearances

>>64145334
I'm pretty sure she didn't even realize the whole thing was about trannies. She just saw people cancelling others for playing a game, and said "fun ruining cunts get the rope". But then she backtracked completely once she realized it was trannies who were doing it.

>>64145056
>proves she has a very weird mix of views at best, and is just a grifter at worst.
Another right wing grifter no different than the guys at TPUSA.
She knows there's lots of sexually frustrated young conservative men out there and is fully taking advantage of them.

>>64145275
Pippa doesn't regurgitate idiot schizo theories. She looks into the actual conspiracies and has sensible takes. Sometimes joking around with obvious junk like lizard men. (Which was invented by David Icke so he could speak about the British crown/govt. Something the LaRouchites, not even stationed in the UK, pay for for telling the truth about)

>>64145409
>she backtracked
She didn't
>>64145148
I think HoloEN, at least council which was all we got for quite some time, just lacks the strong personalities that HoloJP had.

>>64145344
Yeah I like to drop them when I'm not derailing threads and anti'ing Fauna.
But after you, fag.

>>64145409
I dunno that sounds pretty convenient. I think she dog whistled a little too loud then back tracked. She knows about the day of the rope and shit

>>64145275
I get travelling from one shit pool to another isn't going to wash me clean of shit
But I'd much rather be in a shit pool that smells better than the others, ie has opinions I can actually somewhat stand

>>64145495
I dunno I'm pretty sure I heard her screeching about George Soros

>>64145381
>that definitely make you feel like they're based but keeping it under wraps for appearances
There is definitely a contingent of oldfag Capipis that still believe she is full-on /pol/ levels of based, but is just hiding her power level.
But the problem with that view is that it would require her to have done a complete 180 on certain issues in the last couple years, based on posts she made under different identities a couple years ago (without going into specifics).

>>64145481
It's the former. She grew up in tumblr furry circles then eventually found Metokur and started absorbing his views. Even in that screenshot the beaner uses to show she's a nigger lover she was going all wishy washy saying both black and blue lives matter.
I don't think it's a bad thing really. I don't pick my friends or the content I consume based on their beliefs and her arguing with chat when she has a bad take is honestly some of my favorite content from her.

>>64145570
It definitely comes across more as her back tracking because she caused too much of a ruckus, and not because she upset a few trannies on Twitter
>>64145526
But as this Anon says I don't remember anything about her backtracking her statements, she just sort of pulled back and cooled off a bit, let the heat die down and moved on

>>64145732
>it would require her to have done a complete 180 on certain issues
Are you forgetting that she's a w*man?

>>64145761
>her arguing with chat when she has a bad take is honestly some of my favorite content from her
Based. That's also one of my favorite things about her. That she can argue with chat, without taking it too personally, and making good content out of it.

>>64145797
Upsetting twitter trannies is a ruckus. The majority of people in the west support trans people. If you have crazy trans twitter calling her a biggot a lot of people are gonna believe them. That's not a good view for any company.

>>64137892
Other then /pol/ coming together to burn Shia Lebouff's He Will Not Decide Us flag with a flamethrowing drone 4chan doesn't help anything

>>64145732
Her doing a 180 is totally plausible in my opinion
In the early 2010s I was one of those people that believed gay marriage should be legal, abortion was a choice, racism was bad etc etc (I was younger, forgive me)
But in the last 5-6 years I've done a complete swing, I started nooticing and am now massively against all those things I listed above
>based on posts she made under different identities a couple years ago
Another Anon in the thread said, she was apparently big on blm shit, and I can see that too, she's a young white woman who isn't might not be rich but doesn't seem to have had the worst finances growing up. So she totally could have been swept up in the momentum and push for the blm message, then later realised it was all a pile of shit and has only continued to ruin and destroy America to this day

Is the 4pm Runescape waiting room just a carryover from before that she forgot to cancel or is Pippa actually going to be on?

>>64145797
And then people got mad at Tenma when she turned out not to be a white nationalist by getting upset at Class of '09

>>64146185
This post is so funny since it perfectly illustrates how what these antis think is a bombshell is actually a perfectly reasonable thing to people who actually watch streams.

>>64146185
I also am one if these but I didn't quite move the full 180. I am fine with tyrannies as long as they keep it too themselves, but the more they push their crap, the more I move to finish the 180 rotation.

>>64145853
This would be a solid argument, but the Sleepycord messages are more evidence that Pippa still holds at least some of those views from a couple years ago. And that her reputation as a "basedtuber" bothers her.

>>64145943
>The majority of people in the west support trans people
lol lmao maybe on Twitter and r/gamingcirclejerk
The only ones who like them in 2023 are loud minority and the people who own the pharmaceuticals and surgeries
Your average Joe never used to give a fuck about them but they're waking up as it's pushed more and more in their lives especially on to kids
The majority nowadays doesn't like regular gays let alone trannies

Pippa's political views are whatever Colress' are.

>>64146420
You must not live in a city.

>>64146474
Ik this is a joke, but Pippa doesn't seem to be like other women in that way. She's definitely a dom, and the main reason she probably likes twinks like Colress is because they're easier to push around--and that's when she even likes men. She seems much more interested in women most of the time.

What the fuck is up with all these falseflag shilling threads recently, are nijifags really feeling THAT threatened by Pippa?

>>64141835
>Are we talking about Lumi for the fourth one?
No I was meaning Shiina. Pippa, Tenma, Lia and Shiina are locked in ahead of Lumi.

>>64137945
Tsunderia rejected his offer of investing and he got mad enough to start his own

>>64146258

>>64146481
I don't, but just because cities do something doesn't mean the residents agree with it
Have you seen that video in the UK of the man taking the British flag down to replace it with the gay one? Pretty sure that was in the center of London and the people there hated it
So lesson learnt, just because politicians do something to their city/state, doesn't mean the people who live there agree with it
Unless you're California

>>64146295
Can I get a qrd on the Class of '09 situation with Tenma? I totally missed it. Why would Tenma getting upset at the game show she's *not* a white nationalist? The game includes white nationalism, but from a very mocking anti-white nationalist angle. So if Tenma was upset at the game's take on white nationalism, wouldn't that make her pro-white nationalism? I'm very confused.

>>64146642
Pippa just needs to be broken back into accepting her natural feminine submissiveness. Shes just confused

>>64146474
The nearest political group she fits with is libertarian
She basically wants everyone to fuck off so she can enjoy her womanchild hobbies in peace

>>64146939
Well I live in Seattle, and I can assure you that every single resident absoultely does agree with it here. Or at least the dissenters are so outnumbered that they never dare oust themselves.

>>64146642
IDK if I agree with that. I think she likes the idea of being a dom, but anytime she's out of her comfort zone she clams up. Like some of her collabs, or heck with Metokur. The little sperg immediately spilled her spaghetti meeting one of her idols. It was actually adorable.

>>64147076
Or everyone has to agree with it or become social pariahs and enemies of their community (which would include other people who "agree" out of fear of reprisal). I dont live there or anywhere culturally similar to seattle, i think its ectremely rare for "everyone here agrees with thing" except for the most basic and mundane of ideas

>>64147220
That was a long time ago. In all her most recent collabs, she defaults to relentlessly bullying her collab partners. She even did it with Henya.

>>64143572
With Phase, the musical chuubas are a problem.
They are almost all behind in subs, viewers, and they have poor supas compared to the non-singers.
Their covers don't do that well and they do nothing but cost the company money.

>>64146952
Tenma got disturbed by the white nationalist ending and upset enough to end the stream, saying she couldn't really have any fun with it. It was part of a larger issue where she couldn't relate to anything the game was (poorly) saying about modern american high schools. Some people on /pcg/ were upset because it just wasn't a very good stream and felt Tenma should have understood the game was a joke, others were mad that she wasn't le based.

All moot when Panko played it though. Her ESL made the game tolerable.

>>64147312
I don't think Seattle is particularly unique in that regard. Portland is certainly the same, if not worse. I imagine LA, Chicago, and the Northeastern cities are all the same too. Even the major cities in Texas seem to be that way.
And guess where the vast majority of people live: In those cities.
The only exception might be Miami.

>>64147076
Well that makes sense why you think that then
The West coast states are fucked, especially the cities
Seattle, Portland, LA they're all ran by communist dictator wannabes who push the gay message, decriminalization, and affirmative action bullshit on to their subjects

>>64147318
And then this year joined a DND group, wore a mask and hoodie, and slept on the couch away from everyone.

Tbf that group sounded insufferable so I don't blame her.

>>64147441
So it was more that she was such a snowflake about it that she was upset they even joked about it?

>>64147372
according to playboard, you're not wrong.
granted supas don't account for streamelements and members, but it is a great indicator. if you are getting good supas you are generally also getting other good donos.

>>64147441
Sounds more like she didn't understand the game or the jokes and misunderstood the messages so she got upset and ended the stream, which is understandable
Then again I didn't personally watch the stream because even if it has a pro white nationalist ending I can't stand the characters, which I suppose is the point in the end

>>64147607
IIRC Ember gets a lot more streamelements/members stuff but this is correct otherwise. The runt of the litter will always be Iori though. When's the last time she's been mentioned here?

>>64147469
Well yeah, but my point is, you can't say it's "just" the west coast, when such a large portion of the population lives there.
My experience living in Seattle is more representative of what most people have to experience than your experience living in your bumfuck nowhere sanctuary, where the ideas that are taking over the world haven't quite reached yet.
Unfortunately the vast majority of people are either troon-lovers or are living in a place where they have to pretend to be troon-lovers. Your experience away from it all is an atypical experience, and that's giving you a falsely optimistic view of the world.

>>64147672
Pretty much. The game was trying to condemn white nationalism but like everything else about it, it did a shit job. Tenma didn't seem to understand that the game was an awful overexaggerated piece of dogshit and took it too seriously. I wasn't personally upset by it or anything, but I do remember some people being mad that she wasn't "based"

>>64147607
What's the deal with Airi? Why are her supas so disproportionate to her subs?

unironically fishman being a punching bag dummy taking insults and partial blame from the talents gives the company the feeling of openness

>>64147950
Power of boobs. Airi has some hag whales. She made $40k alone on her birthday donothon.

>>64147950
Airi (and Dizzy) are insane donobaiters.

>>64147607
How did Jelly end up being the runt of Invaders 2? Wasn't she /pcg/'s favorite at debut?

>>64147950
Airi is a textbook definition of a model babby

>>64147978
>>64148092
Huh. I guess /pcg/ is not representative of the general market in that way. Spending time there would have you believe that cunny is a much stronger buff than boobs.

>>64147931
Right, it probably wasn't the white nationalist part, or at least not all the blame was on it, for why Tenma didn't enjoy the game
If she didn't understand that it was an exaggeration and didn't get the cultural jokes made in it, she probably just got sick and tired of the shit the characters where saying but finished the game just because she had to
I kind of feel bad for her, she had to play the trend of the month despite it being a shit game with annoying ass characters with a shitty failed message insert

>>64148072
I try not to let my wife get too popular.

>>64148072
timeslot

>>64148072
Timeslot + as the chart shows: primarily musical chuubas in Phase Connect don't make money.

>>64147931
Reminds me of the "Keep your rifle by your side" song from Farcry
It was apparently meant to be a social commentary about guns likers bad, gun likers are a cult or some shit
But it ended up becoming the best pro 2A banger this side of the 2000s

>>64137852
>Conservative white
>upperclass

>>64137466
>I rate fishman

>>64148651
>I rape fishman

>>64140325
/pcg/ has been split into a few threads for months now anon

>>64147607
>sometimes streams less hours a week than tenma does a day
>only $2k less in supas
imagine if lia treated vtubing than more than just a side hobby. she must drive sakana crazy she leaves a lot of money on the table.

>>64141237
He keeps trying to get them to play his autism games with him though

>>64138654
>I just want cute girls being cute not some crazy Appalachian redneck screaming about glowies
Then go watch literally ANY other chuuba, and for those of us who enjoy that type of content, let us have this for once.

>>64137466
I’ve been keeping up with Phase since predebut and I’ve been able to see the company transform quite drastically over time. I think most small corpos fail because they fail to have their own identity, and Phase was the same way for awhile. Vtuber corpos were something fishman never really had any experience with, and as a result they tried to retain a clean image in the beginning which many talents didn’t agree with. Only when Phase actually embraced being the weird schizo corpo did it ever actually get anywhere. Corpos like Prism or Kawaii that try to emulate the bigger corpos are always going to be seen as second to them in the end, regardless of the talent they may have.

>>64149008
Based and true

>>64149022
And it's not just that Phase rejected the clean image, because if they went full Twitch-thot, they'd be second to VShojo, just like Prism and Kawaii are second to Holo.
Phase embraced a unique identity in which they have enough freedom to be weird and unhinged, but while respecting idol culture and not being gross whores.

>>64138057
phase does a horrible job of pandering to lonely guys though

Have they really solved anything when they have the highest relative amount of /vt/ fans?

>>64149317
Why do you think that?
I suppose if you're looking for a GFE then yeah I don't think anyone in Phase pushes for it, but other than that they're still CGDCT

>>64149460
>they're still CGDCT
Ehh, I wouldn't even say that. All of the top talents have collabed with men before at least once.
And yeah, if Phase really wanted to pander to lonely men, then they'd be pushing GFE as much as possible. The fact they aren't demonstrates that pandering to lonely men is a secondary consideration at most.

>>64149460
little GFE is one thing but not a big deal, a lot of the girls in phase just remind me of twitch fleshstreamers, especially lumi, uruka and lia

>>64149426
3 of their 4 biggest talents don't pander to /vt/

>>64149723
>especially lumi, uruka and lia
Ah yes my favorite types of fleshstreamers
An RTS player with a lovely singing voice, a Chinese NEET that can shred on the violin and sing, and an autistic fujo obsessed with Vash the Stampede and gay furry porn.

>>64149809
Eh, Lia and Shiina kinda do.

>>64149242
You hit the nail on the head. Phase Connect is the equivalent of one of those underground idol groups where they play screamo metal songs, spit at the crowd, and do mosh pits. The point is “look at this idol doing crazy shit, that’s awesome.”
A company like vshojo doing unidol-like shit is just like you or me doing unidol-like shit—we aren’t in a position where we’re expected to know or follow idol culture, so there’s no appeal to idol fans in seeing it.
That said, what counts as “idol culture” is subjective, and it all boils down to whether the audience accepts it as part of idol culture. And for EN vtubing, “idol culture” means “whatever HoloEN’s doing”.
TLDR: Phase Connect attracts plenty of former holofags as fans because Phase is basically “Hololive, but if all the girls were schizos and every stream was cursed”. That’s very different Nijisanji and vshojo, whose branding is “not Hololive”

>>64149317
>I prefer my geisha house. Yours is too common, too menhera
Doesn't matter.

>>64150130
Lia hasn't pandered content to 4chan since the fall of 2022

>>64150463
Honestly, deep dives into tumblr fandoms from the perspective of a menhera yume is exactly the type of content 4chan would be interested in. I do think Lia does them because she likes it, and not to specifically pander to /vt/

The fuck is going on here? I just enjoy anime girl with edgy joke.

>>64150667
that is like saying "you play vidya, so you are pandering to /v/ aka 4chan"
pandering to 4chan is people like pippa, kirsche, sawa, nyaru, lumi, marimari etc etc

>>64149460
>>64149581
>No one in Phase does GFE
THE ABSOLUTE STATE OF HARINES

>>64150936
this man doesn't even watch Panko and therefore
doesn't know about the real phase GFE

>>64144977
she plays the stereotype of the conservative american. this seems politically slanted because the overton window is so far left, but basically shes more "90s/00s american" than actually political

>>64148072
because shes not american, but SEA just like me

>>64149723
Coincidentally I don't watch those 3
I feel like Phase is split up between cliques but that's not an entirely bad thing
Depending on who you choose to watch you'll usually be contained within the little clique aside from large collabs

>>64150314
do phasethirdies actually see themselves this way?
everyone else just sees you as annoying browns like bvtm and DN

>>64148072
It’s timeslot. Wemi is also the runt of her gen because she’s also SEA. Pippa has a large South American audience because she streams pretty early in the evening, which happens to work well with South America, most of which is hours ahead of the U.S. East coast.
Numberfags try to come up with explanations for this vtuber or that vtuber having good numbers or bad numbers or lots of fans from this country or that country. There are plenty of legitimate reasons related to content that a vtuber might see variations in their numbers, but half the time it’s because of the timeslot they’re streaming in.

>>64137852
lol, commie gobbledegook.

>>64150314
>That’s very different Nijisanji and vshojo, whose branding is “not Hololive”
Perceived brand image, not their de facto brand identity.

>>64151714
Yeah, they’re the loudest, they’re obnoxious faggots, and they mostly watch Pippa if they actually watch vtubers at all.
A bunch of Jakartan shitposters aren’t making Uruka’s campfire songs incline. They’re not tuning in to Phase’s majsoul group collabs. They’re not watching Shiina play yugioh.

>>64151765
the only bad timeslot is Jelly, Michiru, Remi timeslot tbf.
People trying to pretend Tenma and Panko are in bad timeslots is laughable. They have euro primetime all to themselves.

>>64137466
really strong and funny niche personalities in 1st gen. and luck.

>>64143572
Music isn't very important to most vtuber fans. Simple as.
>Verification not required.

>>64152044
and when i say luck i mean holo council

>>64152013
i'm not watching that shit either and i don't really care to distinguish you from your brethren
my only exposure to phase connect is weird pippa fans on twitter with phillipines flags in their name saying my oshi is a whore

>>64144754
Pippa's politics lean way more into libertarian anti-government area than conservatism. /Pol/tards were convinced for a while that she was an uber-conservative because they are retarded.
>Verification not required.

>>64152051
especially Phase fans. It's why when you have anon's like this >>64138851 saying their best pure musical talent is gonna be a low tier Holo for Phase, he is out to lunch and misses completely of why Phase Connect is what they are and how they got here.
They didn't get here by singing. It doesn't mean don't ever sing or don't do covers, but the thing that got Phase Connect noticed in the industry is mostly its loud and bombastic personalities from 3 Gen1's. Pipp,a Tenma and Lia have worked with a who's who of top industry names, and there isn't an average singer between them.

>>64152272
That's true I can definitely see that
She rambles more about 1A and 2A rights, the ATF, CIA, and other gov organisations
She's certainly anti establishment/government, as for her thoughts on other topics and issues like the gays and trannies, she hasn't really said anything concrete but then again she can't can she
I still think she leans slightly more to the right, but nowadays even the center is "right wing" according to MSM and leftoids
>Verification not required

>>64152272
thats just the american red state schizo tendency. like everyone knew for 50 years jfk was an coverup and ufos were real

I've been out of the loop but my impression of the small corpo scene prior to the Riro termination was that Phase and Idol were neck and neck in terms of being the top group. Did Idol have any more yabs besides that?

>>64152769
idol is no where close to phase. they only "seem" big because of the money they put into ads and all the transparency pandering. their dedicated fanbase is very small. only rin made some impact and that was from her shorts. the moment she stopped she fell off the face of the earth.

>>64152769
no more Idol yabs, but Phase has lapped Idol they are about as close to eachother as Niji is to Holo. Yuko would be 9th biggest talent in Phase.

>>64152839
Rin is doing way better now.

>>64148983
Founding a vtuber company to get some people for your multiplayer games sounds kind of based

>>64152769
Its kinda been back and forth for Idol and Phase, there was a period where it looked like Idol was doing better but then Phase had some growth fairly recently. Idol’s strategy has relied very heavily on advertisements and shorts, it made them see some explosive growth short term but I don’t think it’s fostered a dedicated fanbase, at least not to the level Phase has. That could change though, Idol could see another boost in excitement whenever EN3 or IdolES comes around.

>>64152026
HoloEN absolutely won’t touch it because JP anime corpos really don’t like dealing with western countries besides the U.S. if they can (manga was an exception). Traditionally, JP corpos knew that the easiest way to get something popular in the west is to make it popular in America first.
Vtubing does NOT work that way, because the appeal is in catching a stream live. Because of time zones, you HAVE to focus on Europe to incline there. You can’t make it popular in America and hope Europeans will be interested in it.
Cover’s operations in NA and JP are too big for them to divert resources to EU. They can do it for ID because Indonesia is cheap and JP corpos feel even more comfortable working in Indonesia than they do in America.
Only a corpo small enough like Phase Connect, which doesn’t have a VR project and a physical 3D recording studio to suck money from its budget, can take a chance with Europe.
The amount of times I’ve seen Panko get recommended purely because anon was European and wanted a vtuber who streamed in his time zone is insane.
The European market means too little to JP corpos like Hololive for them to ever focus on it. But it’s large enough to still mean a lot to small corpos. It might actually be an underserved market that small corpos need to look into more

>>64144465
Is she down for being the big spoon.

I need an Idol vs Phase history lesson. Holo vs. Niji vs. vshojo bores me it isn't competition anymore

>>64145281
As they should

>>64137466
They collabed with big names on Twitch like Henya and Filian.

>>64155131
Maybe? But she's a sub IIRC.

>>64154780
Idol only "looks" better because that's all they are good for. They are highly dependent on advertising, but when it comes to core community, they have never once gotten even close to Phase. I even think they are not as strong as EIEN or even VREV when it comes to core fanbase. During the height of their EN2 hype, with all the advertising they did, they sponsored Offkai as the grand sponsor and the turn out for them at the event was a complete blown out. The number of Phase viewers who showed up compared to idol was on the 100 to 1 and that's probably being kind to idol.

>>64142562
Lumi does not have the monopoly on old ass games anon. It would be good if Shiina decides to do Halo 2 with Lumi though, or Dizzy since she was interested in playing.

>>64145281
They would because no one is going to pander your attention seeking bullshit. If the context pops up via the chuuba it is fine and you won't get dog piled, but they don't bring up those topics at all.

>>64156923
>Fillian
she collabs with anybody and everybody. She is not a special collab.

>>64157417
I think you’re kind of underselling Idol to some extent, the revenue they’ve pulled from donathons has been pretty nuts. Even if they don’t necessarily have Phase’s numbers, I find it hard to ignore the amount of whales they have.

>>64159188
>the revenue from donothons
anon they have to spam that shit in order to make back the money of the failed advertising campaign

>>64139858
KEK WHAT A TERMINATED BITCH

>>64159580
It’s not like it costs that much money to run some ads for a week, especially when getting like 20k-40k from a donothon is pretty normal for them. I don’t see many other companies able to pull that off other than Phase, but they don’t just spam donothons either.

>>64159922
Anon they paid an at-the-time low 3view nobody Kirsche $3000 to do a watchalong. Imagine what they paid Fillian, Neuro etc etc etc etc

>>64159162
Other way around.
It's the fact that PC is willing to engage with her, other indies and even Vshojo, plain and simple networking with a massive segment of the EN viewerbase.
All the while other small corpos stay in their bubble at their own expense, trying to copy what Hololive did without possessing the clout or means to do so.

>>64160193
That is all true, but that does not change the fact that Fillian is not a special collab. She collabs with anybody and everybody.

>>64160055
I was just talking about the donothons, which I’ve seen earn over 50k even before the watchalongs. The point never really had anything to do with how much money they spend on advertising, it was that its worth acknowledging that they have plenty of people willing to whale for them. Idol was being compared to EIEN or Vreverie which I don’t really see getting a similar result, I don’t watch much Vrev so maybe I’m wrong though.

>>64156061
TLDR MUCHO TEXTO Headcannon guide to Phase vs. Idol in 2023 (with a guest appearance by Kawaii)

January 2023
>Idol, Kawaii and Phase were locked into a white knuckle fight for small corpo supremacy
>Idol's new EN1 had a lot of momentum and they were mogging Phase's 6-month old Gen2
>Yuko had a lot of momentum and looked like she was on the path to 4view and was going to be the Pippa killer
>Kawaii was surging with 2 new potential stars: Aletta & Oceane. They were getting big viewers, big subs, and big donos. Kawaii's future looked bright.
>At this point for Phase, things felt kinda stagnant they only had Pippa strong with Lumi on >Twitch trying to retain viewers from a much advertised rebut subathon at the start of the month that had her hold 4view for the entire time, something she had never done before.
February-March 2023
>Kawaii suffered consecutive devastating blows, Oceane was fired and then 6-weeks later Aletta quit. These 2 events destroyed Kawaii's momentum and took them out of the small corpo fight
>Phase's once promising Lumi begins a year long Genshin sponsorship which stunts her growth, causing her to lose any gains she made from the re-debut campaign.
April/May 2023
>Idol's Rin redefined the shorts meta and changed the game and exploded, becoming a YT sensation overnight.
>Her shorts translated to new fans and she went from about 200-300 ccv to a sustainable 4view. Meanwhile Yuko took a backseat and began to stagnate.
>Then Fuura Yuri got fired by Phase in April, causing the first real blemish on Phase's corpo credibility because people were crying about who owned her model etc
June 2023 (this is when it looked like Idol was real and had blown Phase out)
>Phase debuts Invaders2 with a modest advertising/hype.
>Meanwhile Idol went full retard and hit the gas for their new EN2 gen debut. They pay huge money to anybody and everybody to watchalong + infinite YouTube ads
>Initially, it seemed like it worked because all of their EN2 held high 3-view to 4-view for their entire debut month, with Roca and Coni being the standouts and looking like they will be legit 4views in no time
>Phase's Invaders2 paled in comparison, only holding about 1/3 of that viewership
>To this point, Phase was still kinda just Pippa getting noticed with a little bit of Tenma
July-to-October 2023
>Idol's EN2 debut month proved to be nothing more than a marriage, as viewership retention began to tank. some blame Advent for this.
>Meanwhile, while Idol is bleeding viewership every month, Phase Connect started their growth arc
>Tenma and Lia began making moves and started hustling away from Pippa, between them scoring major collabs with the likes of Pomu, Henya, vedal, Onigiri, manlybadasshero, Punkalopi and this caused them both to gain new non-Phase viewers
>Shiina struck shorts luck and gained a lot of subs, with some of them translating to new viewers.
November/December 2023
>Idol now finds themselves in major scandal with Riro Ron and black smoke surrounding them
>Phase Connect continues to surge beyond Pippa, as now Tenma is a real 4view and Shiina and Lia are hitting it with regularity.
>Panko, Uruka, Dizzy for Phase also surging doing big numbers from time to time
>even Phase's once stragglers Hime and Remi are now doing 400+
>now Phase has ads running for their upcoming Gen3, so their is a lot of hype and excitement for them

>>64159922
anon their whales are usually never seen in the fanbase, never found in discord. so there's something to consider.

Uruka was banned for fraud because she claims to be seiso when she very obviously is not.

>>64159922
there's also kawaii which has a pretty insane ccv to dono ratio, but that's from going hard on gfe

>>64161724
nice. thanks for getting me up to speed (assuming even half of this is true)

>>64161724
Missed one of the largest blowouts in EN vtuber history - Offkai. Idol snatched the grand sponsorship from Offkai but Phase blew them out completely at the event. It was not even close. Made idol looked like a nobody at the con.

>>64162157
offkai doesn't really matter for viewers that much, I think maybe the one beneficial thing it might give a company is giving indies a positive impression of them and making them more likely to apply

>>64162156
Pretty accurate for the most part.

>>64162247
It definitely improved morale

>>64162064
I like her thighs

>>64148983
That monster bought them diablo 4

Lumi should play HOI4 imo

>>64137665
Based
I want to have sex with wonton girl

>>64137945
>>married
Being married to your hand isn't the same as being real-married.

>>64150433
>ywn be a samurai in 18th century Edo shitting on other samurais' favorite whores, knowing they can't challenge you to battle because the shogunate will arrest them
It's dishonorabu, but it's funny.

> get an ad for dora the explorer on hime's channel
the short live really did bring in children lmao

>>64149008
We all know his kind doesn't want to watch other vtubers, he wants to ruin yours.

Uruka must be retarded

>>64140356
>>64139858
She's that guy who was in nirvana but quit right before they released smells like your mom.

>>64152113
Your oshi is a whore

>>64162946
Thats why shes cute

>>64137466
CEO who can calculate cashflow. That's it. That's where everything else starts. You can't have good team without money.

>>64137466
They didn't hire shitty trouble making people, so far at least.
Hopefully that doesn't change with the new gen.
Good management, who happen to be women and didn't groom them.
Autistic married CEO.

>>64169312
>They didn't hire shitty trouble making people, so far at least.
Heh. This is about to age poorly.

>>64170261
If Phase can tame Pippa, Lumi and Lia, the tsun flunky is nothing.

>>64170711
Excuse me but Pippa and Lumi are BASED.

>>64158800
Lumi did just tell her about the game. I think that's all that guy meant.

>>64159162
She's as big as Pekora, anon. And Filian loves Phase girls, Pippa especially. The work she does as an independent is special for western vtuber growth.

>>64171357
They're pretty awesome, but I dunno how you're using le meme word here. Really shit people are suing it as code for something un-based

>>64172448
you’re being pedantic. nobody is saying Fillian isn’t big.
What is being said is her collabs don’t matter for her collab partners because she collabs with anybody and everybody.

Fillian is like “be in my collab and I use you for content and you can say you too were in a Fillian collab. Deal?”

If everybody collabs with Fillian, it ceases to be special. Do you understand? She is basically the Bob Barker of vtubing.
It is not a rare collab scalp to have.

>>64149460
They might be cute but ranting about the ATF is not cute.

>>64173872
To your point: half of Phase has collabed with Fillian and haven’t gotten much out of it besides this rigged vtuber awards thing. Phase gained from their collabs with Henya, Pomu, vedal those collabs have meant a lot more for their talents involved

>>64173872
And appearing on Johnny Carson did nothing for any of his guests.
Simply no.

>>64174115
fillianfags trying to claim phase’s success is hysterical. phase connect has been inclining long before fillian started begging pippa for collabs.
phase’s top 3 rising talents this year have never worked with fillian.

>>64174388
Also didn't Idol pay Fillian to watch some of their Gen 2 debuts? They still stagnated after that.

>>64172549
Meme word?

>>64174053
>ranting about the ATF is not cute
I beg to differ. Speak for yourself.

a very insightful thread on /vt/??? no way

>>64176557
A welcome surprise. I only watched lumi for warcraft and halo.
I will now watch your chuubas.

>>64137466
sex

>>64137466
no male managers and just not collapsing like all other small corpos

>>64170261
I keep hearing this, whose the problem child and what did they do? Spoonfeed a wagie anon.

>>64138474
>including lumi in this
lmaoo

>>64137945
He tried to invest in other Vtuber companies and they wouldn't let him, so he decided to make his own. That's what he said on stream anyways.

>>64182509
The company he tried to invest in (Tsunderia) dissolved and disbanded. Now fishman is picking up all the free floating members that want to join, including staff. I'd say he won in the end.
Buy phase coffee

>>64137852
The irony is that you have to be self-diagnosed with 6 mental illnesses, while actually having 6 less trendy ones, to believe something like this.

>>64145281
Nobody would comment on it at all as long as you left a regular-ass comment and didn’t leave a comment about trans rights or something

People are there to watch the stream, not monitor chat for anyone with a rainbow flag. Jesus christ. The world isn’t all about you.

>>64145679
The Open Society Foundation and Mr. Soros’ largesse is no conspiracy theory. The guy throws a lot of money around to move the needle in his preferred direction, the only thing to debate is whether you like the same policies he does or whether or not someone should have such outsized influence

But I don’t want to get into a whole thing about it so have a lumi

>>64137674
>Women management.
Why everyone forgets about Sakana?

>>64183566
Sakana was terrible at dealing with the menhera emotional side of things, the talents themselves have said the first year of Phase was rough and things picked up after they hired Muumi

>>64183463
Everyone ignores the rapture queen when it is doing it's laps around the streams.

>>64183534
>is no conspiracy theory
They are very open about what they are doing. They aren't even being subtle about anymore and are taking delight in rubbing the average citizens face in it.

But I don’t want to get into a whole thing about it so have a lia

>>64183566
Even homosexual men struggle to get down to a female's level.

>>64141715
The difference, as I'm sure you'll notice, is that Hololive and VShojo have a reach that extends much further than 4chan and small corners of Twitter

>>64184056
>homosexual men
Cope more

>>64184137
He's married and has kids

>>64184075
Hololive has the JP, weeb, otaku reach
Vshojo has the twitch, drama, ex-companies chatubate reach
Phase has 4chan, /pol/, "meta" reach

>>64184188
What do you mean by "meta"?

>>64184075
How about Nijisanji?

>>64184075
You're talking like Filthy Frank wasn't one of the biggest creators on YouTube

>>64184340
Filthy Frank wasn't thoroughly and irreversibly poisoned by the 2016 election

>>64184188
Its pretty funny when people just out themselves as threadreaders.

>>64138989
Fool.
https://youtube.com/@PhaseConnectMusic

>>64138654
Kirsche is what people who don't watch Pippa think Pippa is, and this post confirms it once more.

>>64147469
>>64147470
People act like this is new for major west coast cities. Seattle has been trying to go commie since the 70s.

>>64160355
Yeah, the point is that it’s that easy, and yet Phase is the only one who bothered. The other small corpos are probably scared about their image because they take /vt/ too literally.

>>64148624
Kek

>>64185956
This. Kirsche is literally the cancer that everyone thinks Pippa emanates. It's actually far from the truth. At worst Pippa is just a retarded center-right attempting to grift. At worst she thinks people like Kirsche are intelligent or good.

Kirsche if you're reading this fuck you. You're literally retarded AIDS for this industry

>>64161724
One thing not mentioned here is Pippa still inclining steadily throughout the year. She is close to some event breaking into a 5 view stream.

>>64162247
Drink the coffee. Phase coffee that is.

I think this is probably the most civil phase connect thread I've ever seen in the catalog.

>>64185734
Everytime I see a vtuber company do a separate music channel it never really works out, the music is usually just better off on a chuubas channel, maybe Phase will prove me wrong though.

>>64184188
Most phase talents don't have a breathe of /pol/ shit affecting them and they have rapidly inclined recently. If anything, it would be the fact they fixed the counting algorithm. I wouldn't be surprised if the majority have adblock and its only recently they factor those numbers in.

>>64186377
You gotta start them off good

>>64174464
Yes. Iirc they payed several large indies to watch the debuts. It'll be interesting to see if PC does the same on the 17th. Another interesting thing is that anons thought phase would not be able to gain sponsorship but that seems to not be true. Since they've had that mobile game, mahjong soul, forcing pippa to watch a genshin card game.... To me it seems that phase is getting large enough that companies will hold their nose and sponsor them anyway.

>>64183566
Sakana isn't a manager. He's a CEO. He doesn't deal with the talents having meltys because he's not good at it. However instead of being a moron he went and hired people who are good at it.

>>64148072
Literally SEA debuff but the good thing is that they still have good numbers. The runt is still sadly JP branch. I honestly want them to boom.

>>64186505
Secretly I think the attitude of companies have also morally changed. As long as there are numbers they would do business in the West. Meanwhile JP still has strict draconian morals to adhere too.

>>64183566
he's too busy making them play league and not sending me my packages to do anything. I'm sure the fort he made in his warehouse looks very cool

>>64183566
Sakana is the numbers guy. He’s good at the business side and getting the company enough money for the girls to focus on streaming. He’s not good with the human side of things.
Honestly, I wouldn’t be surprised if that’s why he originally wanted to invest in Tsunderia first. He probably thought he didn’t have it in him to be a CEO and have to actually manage the girls.
He’s right about that last part. Fishman’s a good CEO, but thank god for Muumi.

>>64186544
>The runt is still sadly JP branch. I honestly want them to boom.
How would you boost them? They're kind of stuck on an island at the moment because the main benefit of being in a corpo, sharing a fanbase, is lost when the vasr majority of Phase fans don't speak Japanese.

>>64186505
*paid

>>64186626
Sakana realized that it’s better to stick to his strengths, he has his shortcomings but he mostly employed people that could more adequately cover his weaknesses while he does his thing, knowing your limits is good and is something a lot of CEO’s could probably learn from.

>>64186660
JP is honestly Phase’s equivalent to Holostars. They’re a group of talents who don’t fit with the corpo’s main demographic (English speakers). The corpo inclining is unlikely to make them incline, and their best bet is probably to collab with JP indies or otherwise leave the box. And finally, if the corpo wants to help them out, they have to do it by neglecting the core audience (ie debut more JPs, who most of the current audience won’t watch because they’re EOPs).
Thankfully it’s not *as* bad. I just mean similar problems arise when it comes to trying to improve JP’s poor numbers.
At least they’re girls though. The only thing stronger than the language barrier is the gender barrier. Most people would still rather watch a girl they can’t understand than a male they can

>>64186660
Sakana had done an interview where he spoke about this like over a year ago. He said that he’s tried to employ the same strategies that worked for PhaseEN but JP as a market was just too different and crowded. Sakana supposedly is hiring new JP members in the future so maybe he’s got something up his sleeve now, either that or he’s hoping that EN community can prop them up since PhaseJP still gets a lot of support from raiding and memberships.

>>64186850
2 of Gen 3 are likely JP. The hamster and the elf.

>>64182408
I still think about that guy who got interviewed who admitted he had no idea what to do and just tried to wing it

>>64186850
PhaseEN’s talents and fans view PhaseJP the same way HoloJP’s talents and fans view HoloEN. They like them and want to support them, but most people just can’t/won’t take hours out of their day to watch someone in a language they don’t understand.

>>64137674
>management gets arguably the damn cutest model in the company

That ain't fucking fair. It just isn't.

>>64138654
Honestly that's just Pippa and she hasn't gone as hard about that in a while. Personally I really like Airi.

>>64187008
Muumi shares the same illustrator as Jelly and Yuko from Idol Corp
Here's Mauve mama's channel
https://youtube.com/@mauvefactory2453

>>64145281
>Like if I had a rainbow flag in my handle and commented in chat i bet some of the fans would dog pile on me.
This summer there was one commenter who showed up in nearly every chat, super chatted hello with a trans flag and stayed silent for the rest of the
stream.
/pcg/ noticed it and found it kind of weird, but nobody insulted him in any chat I saw.

>>64145281
Interestingly enough there is often a person that shows up in some Phase chats with both a Trans and Rainbow flag and no one cares because it doesn't really matter.

>>64145334
Tenma said fun-ruining cunts get the rope and later clarified that to mean Twitter bullies.

>>64187761
Raptured Queen still does that shit

>>64148072
doesn't Jerry get bigger ccv than most invaders? I always thought that was the case
but if I had to guess something besides timeslot is that Jerry particular brand of the 'tism will filter the "normie" part of potential viewers very quickly, and anyone autistic enough to stay listening to someone say awawawawa for 3 hours(kino stream btw) is probably autistic about their money too
also she's boring, mistreats Alice, and kills chicken and cow, it's objectively wrong to watch her to stay away

>>64188007
yeah that's the one i was thinking of

>>64148072
shit timeslot and doesn't stream much, she also feels insecure about her own strengths and hides her powerlevels too much
unhinged jello is way more fun than seiso jelly

>>64148072
probably lumis fault

>>64137466
pandering to right wing chuds
PC has most transphobic fanbase of any vtuber company, sick to think that there is a big vtuber grup that denies trans rights