/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

Koreans will save you

>>64125988

>>64125988
Why are these sorts of things announced behind a paywall? Everyone knows there's a stigma surrounding sharing membership content. Why not just post that on twitter?

>>64125988
mothertruckers can't just say they want a vacation
over christmas

>>64125988
I've seen these kind of announcements, 70% of them most likely ended up with graduations later on.

>>64125988
>end of year coming up
>"health stuff" hiatus

Hasn't this happened to literally like half of holoEN if not more than half? I mean if they wanted to take time off because they want a winter break like they're in school still, just fucking say so. That or it's the "contract negotiations happen around this time and when shit goes bad they go on breaks" type rrat. Or Ame walked by a bakery and ate like 5 loafs of bread and almost died.

>>64126115
Gura route incoming bois. This is how it starts

>>64126186
This is literally Gura's message one year ago.

Ame was never the same once she found out about being celiac
Not being able to eat the stuff she likes anymore and lacking vitamins destroyed her mental and physical faculties

>>64126149
Holos don't graduate. They switch to Ayame mode.

>>64126211
Nah Gura never announcement it properly like this, she mostly just fucked off

>>64126219
I will cure her with my semen.

>>64126219
is she a celiac? didnt she eat bread in japan?

>>64126172
>they wanted to take time off because they want a winter break like they're in school still
This might come as a shock to you since you're a NEET but wagies get time off for the holidays too.

>>64126253
No, she had a proper message last December. It's just the whole year after that there was no explanation.

>>64126253
this, the Gura way would be "ahh it's so good to be back I love you all let's do another stream soon, like next week maybe? k see you then!" (no delivery) (no delivery for like 2 months) (likes like 1 post on twitter) (no delivery for another month)

>>64126172
didn't they do exactly the same annoucements last december
en masse

>>64126280
Yeah I know, I get the last week off December and a couple days around new year's off. But it's not like 2 months which is what a Holo type hiatus is. Month+ off only happens for school kids (unless you're a teacher/professor and get that time off along with the students).

>>64126269
Yeah the issue is more likely the horrible quality of food in the USA.
Maybe an adverse reaction to corn starch/syrup?

>>64125988
Thank you Kiara for info

>>64126269
Doubt it, job is too good and she doesn't have anything else going on
She said it herself on stream she has no plans to graduate because hololive is all she has
She'll just go on a long break and appear on some collabs like Gura

>>64126331
There are many additives the US adds to bread because it often needs to be transported across huge distances, so it needs as long a shelf life as possible. Japan doesn't usually have that issue.

>>64126334
Oops, meant to >>64126149

>>64126219
>Ame was never the same once she found out about being celiac
>Not being able to eat the stuff she likes anymore and lacking vitamins destroyed her mental and physical faculties
She did mention the bread in Japan to give far less stomach aches than the ones in the U.S.

As a day 1 chumbud and day 1 teamate and also a long time Haaton and ex-fandead, who should I member and support next?
I've got a good feeling about it!

>>64125988
based german leaker

>>64126332
You're welcome Anon

>>64126381
Ollie

>>64126381
Shiori Mori and Kiara please

>>64125988
She went on hiatus for me on the day of the Worms stream

>>64126187
KEKW

Props to Ame to actually give damn about her fans but darn is Myth almost a dead gen at this point and is little bit crawling to the promise too. Now I don't feel bad that I am slowly going for the JP branch.

>>64126381
Get rid of Kiara please

>>64126410
Sir I believe you dropped this

No Ame
No Mumei
RED ALERT ! /vt/ will be an absolute Ame gen and Mumei gen biohazard, not to mention the catalog without streams to contain them to their gens

>>64126381
Go support some aspies

>>64126381
Normally I would say Mumei but, you know....

This is now a bread thread.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FovIyqov1uA

>>64126448
Moomps is just doing her finals, I mean I would half expect she might want to lump up her winter break into that as well afterward since might as well but it's a different situation, also consider Ame has rarely been streaming lately unlike mumpers.

Also a comment after this
Basically confirming her family is leeching off of her

>>64126533
Ame is probably doing family stuff and 5th Fes work, i'm not worried

>>64126532
That's a lot of red flags from family.

>>64126532
bitch gotta take care of her 401k
how do you mess up your health insurance
jesas

>>64126420
KEKL

>>64126651
You just know they're burning all her holo money on buying a new house, getting themselves new cars and phones and other stuff

>>64125988
How do you go on hiatus from not streaming? That's like Gura announced she was goin on hiatus.

>>64125988
Current EN members on hiatus
>Ame
>Gura
>Mumei
Current EN members on soft hiatus
>Ina

Impressive

>>64126741
ina has been streaming fine recently tho?

>>64126714
She's been burnt out for a long time now. It's not like it's even the first time she mentioned being low energy and lacking motivation. Let's hope after this break she'll come back full force, somehow.
>>64126741
It's pretty rough. To be honest I'm glad the dogs have been so much fun the past 3 months, spent a lot of time watching them now, they made it easier to ignore how little Myth has been around for me.

>>64126741
Lazy cunts

>>64126702
I can see it happen because she already did paid for many of her family things (biggest I know was electricity fine) even before watson

>>64126773
To be fair, most of time I forgot that Ina even exists. She seems to be so inside her own bubble

>>64125988
Holostars don't go on hiatus after not streaming for six months

>>64126532
>I like chatting with you all
yeah that's why she stopped doing members posts for months

>>64126651
She was raised by her Aunty because her mom was a dropkick, no clue about her dad though. Recently her mom is back in the picture and no doubt leaching. After she bought her Aunty a car I'll bet mom saw her cash cow

>>64126149
going by Sana, ye its very similar

>>64125988
Vshoujo will welcome Gura and Ame. negotiations are going smoothly it seems.

Myth is finished, it's legacy setting out to be as the single most overrated gen in the history of vtubing

>>64126113
This. I hope she at least posts a short notice on twitter.

>>64126862
Ina has outright stated, as Ina, that her Hololive career is secondary to her art career. Not bashing her for that; it makes perfect sense and is a very logical decision to make considering she's a well known artist who makes good money from corporate commissions. It probably feels like she has her own bubble because she does. She treats being Ina as a fun side hobby.

She is pregnant.

>>64125988
(takes foreverr)

Lmao gura and ame are so tired of japanese perm autism just like Magni/Vesper.

>>64125988
You kinda saw it already with the way she’s acted this year. Not even close to the same energy in 2021.

>>64126985
>is a very logical decision to make
Most Hololive members make more money than artists, personal preference for what work she wants to do aside

>>64126991
yeah with me

>>64127048
Posted from within the womb.

>>64127038
>Most Hololive members make more money than artists
Most artists are dirt poor. Ina isn't. I specifically mentioned the fact that her art career is bringing in good money for that reason.

>>64126248
>Ayame mode
Cover failed to nip the problem while it's budding. Now, everyone would just follow this tried and tested method of not giving a fuck because everything hort.

>>64126985
>>64127082
you're misunderstanding her motivations. hololive makes waaaaay more money than drawing shit for a gacha game. she's not prioritizing it because it makes more money, she's doing it because hololive isn't a long-term gig so she wants to keep her main job running so she has something to fall back on. same reason why the younger holos are prioritizing school.

>>64127082
Ina's art career isn't making as much money as a Hololive member would
They're different income brackets

Ame had superchats on for like 2 streams in the past 3 months
Like 1% of all people will maybe drop membership over this

What I'm saying is that she'll make the same money whether she streams or not.
If you had the option to do something or do nothing and still get the same income, wouldn't you take that chance too?

>>64127173
>hololive isn't a long-term gig
Says who?

>>64125988
Something bad will happen

>>64125988
SHE HAS A FUCKING BRAIN TUMOR NOOOOOOOOOOOOO

>>64127173
It's ridiculous to think it isn't a long term job once you made it big. Even the two big holos who left still are vtubers.

>>64126113
>there's a stigma
on reddit maybe
this is piratechad website

>>64127173
>>64127198
You're misunderstanding my point. I never said it makes her more money. All I said is that her art career is making her very good money and she has been clear about this too. Her art alone allows her to live very, very comfortably. She debuted at the perfect time for vtubing in the West and is fully aware that it's only been going downhill. It's perfectly logical for her to view her Hololive career as secondary.

>>64127306
An art career will never be "very good" money, you can live comfortably as a single, it's still much less than Hololive
If she looked at it purely for an economic perspective, focusing on Hololive would be the smarter thing to do, but I guess she likes art more

>>64125988
SHES BURNING OUT!!!
JUST LIKE
GURA
SANA
VESPER
MAGNI
SOMEONE SAVE THEM AIEEEEE

>>64126381
>day 1 teamate and also a long time Haaton and ex-fandead, who should I member and support next?

She'll be in vshojo this time next year

>>64125988
Graduating

>>64127348
>An art career will never be "very good" money
Oh I see. You're retarded then.

>>64127247
Her teratoma is acting up again, that's all.

>>64125988
Love that she is being transparent and communicative about it. Rest well Ame.

>>64127406
No, I'm an artist
You don't understand how much they make

>>64127430
thats exactly what chumbuds said last year lol

>>64126381
Go find a 2view to support. It's what I did and it's nice watching someone who actually gives a shit.

>>64127491
Yeah, and?

>>64127489
I do. Most artists are dirt poor like I said. Ina is making six figures from her art alone. You've established that you're not in this for an honest discussion and you don't know what the fuck you're talking about so I'm done with you.

>>64127491
Nah, Gura didn't say jack shit besides go "this is the new normal OK" in response to people going apeshit on her in prechat/comments about her 0 communication shit.

>>64127348
Not the same anon
That is an unbelievably naive opinion to hold. Regardless of how popular they are, vtubers are still a very unstable job to fully lean onto, especially when you have a stable source of income already. One single slip up can cause a domino effect and everything comes crashing down, or simply the bubble pops and interests wanes for the next big thing.
And you're fucking retarded if you think art career cant be good money. Look at how many unknown artists who can survive on commissions alone, look at how much it costs to have an animated MV and then look at how much money gacha games pull in, especially when character art is a huge fucking reason why they are able to do so.

>>64126381
I think Kiara need a rest and her physical problems might need to take care of.

>>64126381
Unironically support tempus, armis, or fuwamocco.

>>64127430
>transparent
It's membership post. She didn't say anything on twitter.

>>64125988
It was time already for her to say that because she seemed to be in a months long hiatus already.

>>64126149
>Sana
OHNONONO We're seeing a patterns in here.

>>64127537
"6 figures" ranges from 100,000 to 999,999
Someone at Hololvie is probably making twice as much as a properly employed artist, maybe more

>>64127562
> vtubers are still a very unstable job to fully lean onto
Depends what kind of vtuber you are
If you lean hard into pretending to be the audience's girlfriend, that will blow up on you eventually
If you are just a streamer then there's no reason you can't do it for over a decade or more

>>64127552
retard
https://twitter.com/gawrgura/status/1605615746981122048

>>64126741
It's not like the JP side doesn't also have constant hiatuses with little to no explanation, or several members who burn out and only stream once or twice a month.

>>64127575
dont worry about it

>>64127631
She really needs to post shorter version on twitter or public post on youtube

>>64126381
Pomu

>>64127755
>ambiguous
nothing ambiguous about her

>>64127730
>this retarded
Holy shit. You're either trolling or you're dense as fuck.

>>64127273
As long as its Holo, any other memberships get vacationed for posting "Irl/unrelated to vtuber activities"

>>64127807
You have no argument

>>64125988
hiatus FROM WHAT

>>64125988
Is she going to actually see a doctor and FOLLOW THEIR ADVICE?
Or keep eating garbage and not being active whatsoever?
Sorry your life is so hard, people expect you to show up for maybe 10 hours a week and you can't even manage that.
So glad I dropped Ame last year when it was clear this was just how she is. It will never get better. Just a series of excuses and complaining.

>>64127869
You're too retarded to understand a simple fact. That's not my problem. I tried to educate you and your ineptitude held you back.

>>64126532
I love it when fucking holo vtubers bitch and moan as if they have money problems

>>64126532
Holy shit how do you fuck this up
Fucking retarded womanchild

>>64127923
Maybe they are actually making only 100-200k and not the millions everyone assumes?

>>64127732
>health reasons

>>64127230
says people who aren't retarded.

>>64127923
Where in that post does she bitch about being poor or not having money?

>>64126248
Well Sana did but she was already ayame mode for a long time.
You are right in spirit though, with all the passive income they just soft-retire

>>64126532
>Messed up health insurance
This is how you spot someone who has never had a real job before.
Ame is straight up fucked.

"I'm still planning on doing collabs" Aka I'll collab with Gura. Gura "I'll collab with Ame". Neither will stream though, so checkmate lol. There goes the quarterly Gura collab.
Anyways, just kinda amusing they need a break from streaming when... they already don't stream. Those 5 streams a month were too taxing I guess. White girl power.

>>64125988
nobody cares, ame. bye.

>>64127995
There's nothing that says streaming is only a short-term thing
So many career streamers have been doing it for over a decade at this point

>>64127917
I understand that she's making a stable income as an artist, the point is that Hololive makes significantly more than that

>>64127971
>only 100-200k
case in point

>>64127996
The part where she complains about being caught unaware by health insurance payments

>>64127996
Remember the key to not being poor is to spend way less than you make.
I have a friend who makes less money than most of the people in our group, but he has way more savings than us because he minimizes his expenses and doesn't waste money on trash like subscriptions or going out.
Also buying a house in this economy is a fucking scam.

Kiara time to buff your back

>>64128153
What? She thought autopay was on but wasn't. She said nothing about not affording it.

>>64128124
You're completely fixated on am utterly meaningless point that I never refuted or contradicted. Just shut the fuck up you dense retard. You're talking because you want to hear yourself talk.

>>64128194
>POOF

This is 1 trillion percent more communication than Gura has ever given us. I can't even be mad

>>64127877
None of them had these issues when Japan was closed off and all they had to do was stream. I blame the constant travel and other preparations they have to do now that they have a concert or other event to do every other month. Seems like most of them are always in Japan for all this shit instead of just playing games.

>>64125988
>ctrl+f pregnant
>only one result
She really couldn't be making it any more obvious

>>64128281
They need to stop pretending everything is live and just go to Japan for two weeks to record everything for the year.

>>64126248
>Around the Holo there forms a Shell of members and memes and clips and merchandise and vods, until at Last the Holo Dies. And this may not be noticed.

>>64128222
>You're completely fixated on am utterly meaningless point that I never refuted or contradicted
So why are you arguing with me?

>>64128226
That just sounds to me like they stopped her insurance because she didn't pay, and she didn't pay because she thought that it was automatic pay, not that she didn't couldn't afford it.

>>64126324
>(unless you're a teacher/professor and get that time off along with the students)
You really shouldn't talk about professions you have no idea about

>>64125988
Maybe you should've let her do content she wanted instead of being little babies about it.
You also should've given Gura her react content when she suggested it.

>>64128379
The sound is commonly used to indicate something suddenly disappearing. It would not make any sense to think that it was about the health insurance coverage itself, since that had been stopped a long time ago. It refers to money, implying the amount involved is anything but a pittance to her.

>>64128355
Because you're retarded and keep regurgitated the same non-argument in response to the fact I am stating. You have contributed nothing of value yet you act like my statements are wrong. Please tell me you're just baiting and you're not actually this dense.

>>64128379
She probably didnt know you have to manually renew your insurance every year

>>64128484
You said it would be logical to treat Hololive as secondary because she makes very good money as an artist. I refute this by saying nobody makes "very good" money as an artist, and Hololive makes significantly more, so logically it would make more sense to focus on Hololive

>>64128465
Anon, she's saying that she's singing up for health insurance again. Because her last insurance was cancelled because she didn't pay it, thinking it was automatic. How is that hard to understand.

>>64126149
So another HoloEN talent is having a solo stream hiatus with only a vague management approved explanation. The contract renewals in the winter of 2022 were heated but 2023 might be worse even if Cover didn't hand out any radio silent "health" breaks. I doubt anyone in Myth is thinking of graduation but there is definitely a hurricane level fight going on behind the scenes.

>>64128554
>I refute this by saying nobody makes "very good" money as an artist
Which you are wrong about.
>Hololive makes significantly more
Irrelevant given the context which Ina is intimately familiar with.
>so logically it would make more sense to focus on Hololive
Once again confirming you're a retard.

>>64128710
>Which you are wrong about.
No, I'm right about this, because I work in the fucking field
If you think anyone doing illustration makes enough money to not have to finanically plan for their future or that it would approach something a decent Hololive member makes, you're delusional
If you approached it purely logically you would do the thing that makes more money

>>64125988
its been one step forward, two step back for her, ever since she debuted. what a shame.

>>64125988
you are telling me she wasn't already?
Ame has done a total of 0 things this year

>>64128088
i know this is a hololive fanboy board but let's not be stupid. streaming is insanely volatile. for every streamer who has been around for a decade there are a dozen who didn't last more than a couple years. and that's individuals who mostly aren't taking any risks. hololive is a huge corporation with like 400 employees and a game dev studio, running purely off of streaming revenue. they're making money now but that can radically change in a week.

>>64128765
>No, I'm right about this, because I work in the fucking field
Fallacy. You're objectively wrong about this but trying to claim you're automatically correct for a meaningless reason.
>If you approached it purely logically you would do the thing that makes more money
Once again confirming you're retarded. Please stop embarrassing yourself.

H-holoEN isn't a black company...

>>64128554
Here is what I think you are missing. Once someone has achieved success in Hololive, they can stop focusing on it and still make good money just from their previous inertia and barely any future effort. This is why holos can go ayame mode.
Some want to continue to grow and push and become even more successful, but others get tired of it and just start to rest of their laurels.

>>64128027
Ame still has more stream hours than several amount of JPs roru

>>64128689
reread what I already said, because you sure as hell didn't address it.

>>64128825
>You're objectively wrong about this
Really? Why do you think so?

>>64128814
Streaming can be insanely volatile, depending on the time of streamer you are
If you are just someone who is entertaining, plays video games, and does not pretend to be the audience's girlfriend or gets caught sexually assaulting other people, there is no reason you can't maintain your audience for over a decade

>>64128894
Because it's an objectively false claim. Ina is one such example. She has not been shy about the fact that she makes a very comfortable living off art alone and if you knew anything about her you'd know why this is. Yes, most artists make shit for money. Ina doesn't. Yes, she's in the minority here. That doesn't matter because this is a conversation about Ina, not artists.

>>64128875
She didn't pay it because it wasn't automatic, not because she didn't have the money to pay it.

Announcing her hiatus on the same day that Ironmouse wins content creator at the VGA.
Call me a schizo, but I think these 2 events are related. Ame has gradually lost faith in herself and the holo management. That's why she passive-aggressively called them out in this post.
Her channel is pretty much dead in the algorithm, and she has to wade through tons of red tape to do anything about it.

She was likely contemplating this decision for a while, but seeing Mousey win finally broke the stalemate. It made her realize that she's been long surpassed by people who were tiny when she was at the top. That's gotta be a devastating realization for a content creator.

>>64128960
>it's an objectively false claim
Do you have reason to believe this? Do you know what they actually make? Ina is a regular professional artist, she's not special or a highly paid celebrity

>>64125988
Yes, she's pregnant

>>64126532
>health insurance was terminated due to nonpayment
Imagine being the guy on the phone hearing watson rage kek

>>64128993
Ame should've accepted being Gura's sidekick

Come to think of it, Kiara said something like that "I will support her even she doesn't do anything" on previous Holo Parade stream.
(It was talk about in-game character AME, but obviously something in mind)

It's the right attitude in ethically standpoint, but Vtubers are "replaceable" in realty.
I'm just a random person for them, even ones I was support them.
I'll stick with "Vtubers are not friends" philosophy.

>>64128991
Again, how did you misunderstand what I said? You're saying something that has nothing to do with what I said.

It's been so surreal seeing Myth completely fall apart within the past year for seemingly no real reason at all.

i too wish i could take breaks from playing some videogame for 2 hours every now and then wearing just my smelly underwear because nobody could see me anyways
it sure is a highly demanding and stressful job, i couldn't possibly do it too, Ame is such a strong girl...

>>64129198
Mori and Kiara have never been doing better than now though?

>>64129026
>Do you have reason to believe this?
Yes. See: Ina. Please stop being retarded and please pull your head out of your ass.
>Ina is a regular professional artist, she's not special
Retard. The very fact that she's making good money off her art already makes her "special" because a vast majority of artists live in poverty without a secondary source of income. It's odd how you find ways to get so fixated on the dumbest, most irrelevant shit.

>>64126532
That actually makes some sense, open enrollment is November to December in the US.

>>64129275
There's no group dynamic anymore.

>>64128443
Retardo

>>64126149
Or they are just Shion/Ayame and plan to stay another 10 years, but rarely stream.

>>64129307
Not many artists are career artists, so that makes her special I guess, but as a career artist she is not special, she makes around about what other career artists make. Which is significantly less than most talents at Hololive make

>>64128281
>>64128320
>t.totally Hololive enjoyers

>>64129383
>fallacies
>still regurgitating the same non-arguments
At this point I'm just going to accept your concession and allow you to wallow in your idiocy. This is your cue to get the last word in because I know your ego demands it. Go ahead anon, prove me right yet again.

>>64129405
oshi > company
imagine fawning over a company

>>64128957
that just isn't true, you can confirm it by looking at any older twitch account like mine. plenty of scandal-free streamers have died just due to viewer attrition over time as people move on to other fads. others have died due to having to take breaks for whatever reason. a miko or haachama style health break would be career ending for most indie streamers.

>>64126253
SEE YOU NEXT YEAR

>>64125988
Advent is literally the Myth buster lmao

>>64129235
life is 2hard for them, poor things make millions from playing games and talking about nothing and thanking people for giving them money for nothing but having an anime girl mask they didn't make themselves and joining a company... i cry evry tim... bring our brave girls home...

>>64128991
Actually fuck you, I'm not going to wait for you to stammer out a third reading comprehension error. I'll just rehash everything for you and call it quits if you still can't grok that.

Ame:
>In the past I had health insurance
>I thought it auto-renewed, but it didn't. I was not covered, but didn't know that.
>I found that out when something health-related happened and I had to pay the bill in full
>my money went POOF at that moment

The response:
>Fuck millionaires and bitching about amounts that are pennies to them.
Referring to the health bill she paid in full, not the missed insurance payout, you absolute dumpling.

>>64129422
I have no idea what point you're even trying to make because you're frothing at the mouth so much. You keep saying Ina is in a special position but when I say she isn't you just get mad and say that wasn't your point

>>64129546
So basically what >>64128544 said.

>>64126532
Ame and Kronii really do suffer the most.

>>64126906
Ok, I actually sympathise with Ame now. My brother is overseas but has started to show signs of leaching. Meanwhile we have our shitty jobs at home and he was the one who left his high paying job for his greater purpose in life. You always have thag strong feeling to fuck off but get caught becsuse feelings of family.

>>64127384
>Membership
>Transparent
Retard

>>64129546
How is that bitching?

>>64126741
Fauna is about to be on a 3-4 week long vacation too and Bae is moving to Japan soon. Shiori is supposed to take a couple of weeks off soon, but she also said she might try to stream

>>64125988
Just say you want a Christmas month to have sex everyday

>>64125988
>trying to get some things done with the company(takes foreverrr)
Average Ame excuse, yes it's true but every holo suffers that yet she's on the bottom even though she's supposed to be le creativity

>>64126741
Ina is dependent on her artist schedule. When nobody commissions her, she can easily pump out 3+ hour streams almost every day.

>>64129721
Yeah, with me.

>>64125988
She saw the Game Awards, and decided that this society and hobby had nothing worth it being attached to it.

>>64127430
>Membership
>Transparent
Retard

>>64125988
She still streams? It's amazing how fast you fall off the radar when you unsubscribe to someone

>>64127082
Lmao
You can bet an average holo makes more than some top tier gacha artist and Ina is quite far from that yet, if we're talking about mangaka then forget, besides a handful of the stars like Oda most of them earn 1-5 minimum wage

>>64127348
It's a stable income that you can work with until you grow old (if you have enough skill). If you're at a level similar to Ina though, it's far easier.

That nonstop headache and low energy? Me whenever I turn up on her doorstep to fuck her brains out.
All me baby. Sorry Teamates. I had to do it.

>>64125988
Not like she streamed anyway.

>>64125988
She's actually going to take care of her health? Dyrbi?

>>64130044
No way, doing art is far more laborious than being a streamer, it also pays less
Stability is the only thing it has going for it

>>64129941
She's done with holo culture and bullshit, she might need to do drastic move if she wants to grow her career. It's understandable.

I wonder why people always blame the talents when it seems like Cover is giving them bs busy work. /vt/ is filled with the weirdest wagies

This reminded me that the Shark exists
She's been ghosting for over a week (again)
I guess the excuse this time is gonna be
>I made calendar videos so that should be enough to make up for not streaming for a month

Anywyas Ame (and Gura and Ina) don't even exist to me with how inactive they are in EN. They contribute literally nothing, and it sucks for Mori and Kiara that they need to hard carry their entire branch

>>64128705
>retards believe in “contract disputes”
There has literally never been a contract dispute in Hololive. These girls are given infinite leeway in how they operate and how often, with the only firings ever happening due to non disclosure violations followed by lying about it. They have zero ground to stand on in any hypothetical “dispute.”
Amelia Watson isn’t streaming because she’s bored of the job. She’s been exposed as a worthless loser and dragged through the mud, going back to her Outer Wilds yab.
You’re like those retards that think Gura isn’t streaming because of “heated contract disputes” and not because she’s too busy sexting and napping all day.

>>64130044

>>64130018
Sure but Ina still easily cleared 100k just from her art and that shit is actually stable
Not like she has some sort of extravagent lifestyle that requires millions of dollars so why not focus on the sure thing which she enjoys more anyway

>>64130154
>Cover is giving them bs busy work
Anon if you actually read the OP it goes against what you're claiming
You're fucking retarded

>>64130154
Pointing out Cover's flaws will get you labeled as a nijikek even if they're true.

>>64130154
because most of the talents get on just fine regardless. seems like a few in EN are the only ones who crumble. and they arguably have to accomplish much less than their JP counterparts which is even more pathetic.

>>64130234
>seems like a few in EN are the only ones who crumble
soft graduations are consistent across every branch really

>>64130184
entire gen* I meant

>>64130154
Holy retarded, nijizhang or vshojocuck? Call it!

Dyrbi?

>>64127273
>piratechad
No such thing. Men pay their way honestly. Little boys and faggots steal.

>>64125988
>takes foreverrrr
What did she mean by this?
Are her projects getting stalled or something?

>>64130225
I did. Cover is giving them too much bs busy work

>>64127732
>a bunch of healthy 20-something girls suddenly need months-long breaks for undisclosed “health reasons”
Hahahahahahahahahahaha!

>>64129712
Shiori wil be gone gone for a week, and then streaming zatsudan and watchalongs from her laptop until like mid-January.

>>64128554
>>64130124
>nobody makes "very good" money as an artist
That's very subjective. It depends on your skill level. People at Ina's level can pump out art easily. Your average twitter artist ranges from making scraps to making big money. All she needs to do is to stay in her room and draw.

Being a vtuber in hololive is more than just sitting in front of a PC. You have to entertain an audience, sing, dance, do live shows, interact with various people. Both field of jobs require different skillsets, and Ina is more comfortable with art. Doesn't mean she dislikes being a holomem though. Just in her case it's more laborious vs drawing.

>>64130435
>20 something
lol
The vast majority of holos are 35-40

>>64127173
You are really fucking stupid.

>>64130435
>suddenly
they were all vaxxed, that's why

>>64128389
>Teachers are… le underpaid and overworked!
Teachers are the whiniest fucking losers in the world. They absolutely are not working 40 hour weeks during the summer, despite their insistence otherwise.
The average teacher makes ~$80k, by the way, with much better benefits than most working Americans.

>>64127732
Its been a whole ass year

>>64127265
More importantly
>school
Yeah bro you make 500k as a streamer but you're going to quit to get an entry level job that pays 39k a year and work your way up makes a lot of sense.

>>64130522
>>64130566
luckily holos aren't as retarded as you are

I only know the dog women twins are in their 30s, they are veterans, who else is 30+?

Ina is probably trying to milk FGO as much as possible since she knows that the game hasn't had any content since lostbelt 6 and its a rapidly sinking ship.

>>64125988
I blame holoENs dogshit management. it's run by sisters that keep fucking shit up and de-moralizing the girls like WHERE ARE THE LETHAL COMPANY PERMS!?

>>64126149
Ina and Haachama both came back, Sana was the weird one

>>64130649
>WHERE ARE THE SHITTY FOTM GAME PERMS THAT EVERYONE DOESN'T WANT TO WATCH!
Neck yourself

>>64130637
ina

Is this the wagie seethe thread? Theres too many of those on /vt/

>>64130184
I know you don't watch Ina but I wouldn't call this "inactive" and she has a 3D live coming out. She still has hours put in despite her other job.

>>64130474
No they aren’t, retard.
Are you also one of those morons who thinks Sora is 40?

What does a "talent manager" even do in hololive? They are completely worthless employees if they can't even manage the talent in such a way that she/he remains healthy to stream

>ctrl f
>'gura'
>20 matches

>>64130458
If you make it as an artist, you're one of the chosen few who manages to be good enough to actually gain regular employment, then you will be making about as much as an average middle class job
And it's a fuckload more work than streaming

>>64130566
Yeah and I‘m sure they‘ll still be streaming to thousands of people in 20 years and totally won‘t either have graduated or eke out a living as 3views

>>64130728
>my corporation
>my brand
>my rigged model
>my revenue
>talent tells paypigs it's okay to pause memberships while she's on a long ass hiatus
yeah personally I would fire that manager for letting this happen

>>64130728
Fuck holos and spread rrats on /vt/

>>64130910
Doing a job you like vs doing a regular job makes a difference on how easier to work with and productive you can be.

>>64129333
There never really was

>>64127631
>>64129958
Why should she tells this to people that aren't her fans? What do they care if she goes on hiatus?

>>64126113
yeah there's a stigma
stigma balls

>>64130555
... you sure about that, anon?

>burned out from playing video games

>>64130191
>going back to her Outer Wilds yab
>yab
lol you can't be serious

>>64125988
Shouldn’t have given your energy towards the homos project Ame . They get everything while the girls are left to wait and wait losing motivation. Oh well I don’t mind if they graduate anymore, I’ll watch them elsewhere

>>64131683
yeah if anything that was more embarrassing for the teamates who stayed yelling HOLD for hours like me, why the fuck did i do that like a fucking pathetic fag

>>64131653
happened to me

>>64131991
I did it because it was fun, great times

>>64125988
She was my first EN oshi, and watching her live in the early days is still my favorite experiences in this hobby, but she really has pretty much called it quits mentally since early 2022.

I'll be really sad to see her go if she ever does, but i wont be surprised.

>>64130690
It doesn't matter if people don't want to watch. What matters is if they want to play. It's the one game Gura said she wanted to play with Ame.

>>64132230
I don't think she'll leave anytime soon, the job is too good and its the only thing she has. Sana had her art career.
She'll just be like Gura, only showing up for some collabs and maybe she'll get a second wind next year
She struggles a lot with health issues, depression and lack of motivation for a long time (since 2021 at least was when she found out about being celiac)

>>64132106
>it was fun
keyword WAS

>>64130435
They all got long covid clearly

>>64126087
i wanna glide in Ame's fur kanal
if u know what i mean

>>64125988
>Lately I just have non-stop headaches and extremely low energy
Isn't she vegetarian/vegan?

Maybe having a shitty diet makes your life feel like shit.

>>64125988
>""""health stuff"""""
HoloEN's are still under the impression that just saying you want a break from streaming is a bad thing. Just say you want to go on vacation for Christmas, jesus christ.

>>64132106
>sitting in an empty stream being laughed at by /vt/ was so f-fun guys
The cope is impressive. It’s good to see how hard teacucks lost.

>>64132689
Celiac, can't eat bread. She does sometimes anyway and shits blood / damages her intestines because of lack of essential vitamins

>>64132695
Yeah, it is terrible to do. People were worried about Gura and thought she was in the hospital for months for her health stuff when in reality she finally admitted a year later she is just burned out.

>>64125988
More like Lazylive

>>64126381
Kiara needs more love anon, be sure to support her!

>>64126532
>American families
>American healthcare
>America

>>64132774
>being laughed at by /vt/
Eh? I think there was like one thread there, which turned around when she came back.

>>64127751
Except they are the ones we don't give a fuck about. The real ones are still grinding.

>nijiniggers defaming Cover again

>>64132946
It began her years long descent into abysmal performance, and it humiliated teacucks to no end.
She will never, ever reclaim what she once was. I broke her and her fans, and it feels incredible.

>>64133105
This larp is boring.

>>64132918
honestly the fact a for-pay insurance plan could be so badly managed shows that the leftist meme that the most expensive service in the world could ever be free affects every single living person negatively, you can either do communism or not, in it's current state all the medical beast senses is profit and it's become so bad with actual money it can't even call a debtor on the phone. It's being fed intravenously now, it can barely move.

>>64126381
Please kill off Fauna or the dogs. Make this board a better place.

>>64125988
At some point EN is just going to be Biboo, the dogs, Kiara, and Fauna.

It's always interesting to hear when people think Amelia went to shit, because everyone seems to think it happened at a different time.
If you're still a member during year three of "burnout" you unironically are a paypig.

>>64133273
>b-boring
The wounded cry of the deflecting cuck.
You lost hard, teacuck. You will never, ever live down this humiliation.

>>64130704
Anon, it's time to accept that ever since the health break last year when it comes to Ina she is just dead to those posters no matter how much her activity says otherwise.

Rip Mori's back, in addition to those perfect massive cowtits, it now has to carry this whole lazy gen

>>64126532
I still don't get it, she has a poorfag mentality for everything, except for her family. She often talks about how she doesn't believe people, that you have to doubt everyone, that no person who approaches you does it with good intentions, but she has been suffering because of her "mother" since she started earning money. The story is
>Ame, the 2nd child from the "family", doesn't know her dad and her mother abandons her or treats her like trash while going with 8 different mans
>As if she were an object, her mother gives her to her aunt and grandmother, the people she values most in her life because they fulfilled the role of mother even if they were poor
>You can't make friends at school because you change cities practically every year due to economic problems, you even have to kill your pet fish because there is no money to pay for electricity, you even live next to a dump
>Your grandmother and aunt do everything so that you have a happy life, they also give you a PC
>After several years, you join Holo, a stroke of luck since that same year your grandmother, the person you loved most in the world, died
>You start earning a lot of money, you even buy your aunt a car, so much so that your mother also finds out
>Your mother comes back into your life and introduces you to a new brother, FOR SOME REASON every time she shows up she just asks you for money, to take her on a walk with your new little brother, to buy things for her and your new brother
>Literal story: Every time her family goes to her house and something from them breaks, Ame has to pay for it and buy them a new one. The example she gave was headphones, but who knows how many other things she made her buy
>Now for some reason after your mother made you pay for expensive Thanksgiving meals for days, you are now the leader of the family
Seriously, someone pay a hitman and take down that person who calls herself her mother. She is just a leech who will never let her daughter be happy

>>64133424
I am proud paypig!
Even considering to upgrade my membership.
I know whats shes going through with her family, and its not an easy road to go.
I will support Ame any day!

>>64125988
>i have a headyache :(
damn I wish I could get out of working that easily

>>64133767
Her mother is treating her how she deserves to be treated. Her mother is a hero for making the blonde cunt’s existence miserable. It is what the blonde cunt deserves.

>>64133767
>tolerating a worthless mother
It's often said that females in the entertainment industry have some kind of mental illness and this seems to be Ame's

>>64133816
>upgrade
>implying I'm not already T3
Don't even joke about being me.

tldr - Im lazy and privileged

>>64132684
Make sure (You) wear a mit.

>>64133767
>I still don't get it, she has a poorfag mentality for everything, except for her family. She often talks about how she doesn't believe people, that you have to doubt everyone, that no person who approaches you does it with good intentions, but she has been suffering because of her "mother" since she started earning money.
anon that's a classic tale as old as time. Jaded bitter person who has been burned plenty of times somehow only lets in the people who continue to burn them. They're the source of their own problems, or at least can't bring themselves to stand the fuck up for themselves and/or cut off those who are harmful to them. It's like a vice. Ame probably wants family love and so she's doomed to suffer

>>64133741
Ina and Kiara still stream regularly. Mori is taking a break from solo streams for a while too.

>>64127173
hololive isn't a long term gig, and being kr she needs a respectable job that she can talk to people about and not shame her parents with

Name something more iconic than EN and their breaks.

>>64132918
Remember that "free" healthcare is a sham because there isn't an infrastructure in place to support up to 500 million customers at once.

Now we can be alone together teamates.

>>64134468
>Remember that "paid" healthcare is a sham because there isn't an infrastructure in place to support any amount customers at all.

>>64134705
Found the canadian

>>64130191
>There has literally never been a contract dispute in Hololive.
Vesper got into a huge fight with management, received the first public suspension in the EN branch, and several months later was given a 2.0 redesign. Do you believe that sequence of events was random chance? Even without knowing the RM stuff it was obvious that Vesper and Magni didn't like their models. Magni even implied the rest of Tempus helped them get redesigns so a contract fight will sometimes involve an entire gen. Cover has every reason to hide contract fights since that might hurt their reputation.

>They have zero ground to stand on in any hypothetical “dispute.”
This will be the second winter in a row where HoloEN is having a suspicious number of breaks.

>>64134760
trust me, as an American, insurance companies will find ways to fuck you over before and after you get something is/was approved.

>>64134795
You know vesper's model I never thought was that bad but magnis was legit some "how to draw anime" tier shit

>>64134795
I would hate my model too if i had pako for a mama.
Fuck male fgo servants, fuck unpopular fgo servants, fuck the bleach-esque designs, and fuck the clown suits.

>dramamonkeys
>making shit up in their heads then get mad about it
many such cases

>>64134933
This is true.
>doctor tells you that you need a procedure and it could be life threatening if you don't get it
Insurance companies
>Sorry this procedure clearly isn't necessary and therefore we won't cover it

>>64133424
I'm a day 1 member but I only keep mine up using purely third world currencies just for the purposes of shitposting.

>>64130231
>>64130282
Like clockwork honestly

Is this all Todd's fault?

>>64134468
>Pandemic happens and is still happening to this day
>Free hospitals in europe immediately fold
>Hospitals in the US faired minutely better before folding
>Not even the greatest hospital system in the world and based in the US managed to keep it together
Healthcare infrastructure everywhere has always been ass. There are too many people and too few doctors and a ton of red tape and not enough supply.

>>64135279
I wonder how she felt seeing Bethesda so their whole
>l-look it wasn't a flop!!!!
thing last night at the game awards

>>64125988
MONTHS?

>>64125988
Maternal leave

>>64135358
True but it's likely that if Ame were European she wouldn't be talking about how bad her medical expenses were

>>64126269
and she suffered for it

Jannies, stop being over protective. The comment about Bethesda was related to their starfield trailer they released. Ame literally had an entire outfit dedicated to the release of starfield which was extremely lackluster.

>>64135476
Kiara does that all the time.

>>64127173
>hololive isn't a long-term gig
lol, you're dumb as a brick

>>64135567
>he thought he could get away with criticising a member of myth

>>64135636
LMAO what is Cover doing then? She should have a private insurance and all her expenses covered while getting better service in general.

>>64135750
Kiara does have insurance, but Cover, a japanese company, isn't going to be able to provide Austrian insurance directly. She has her own self-serve insurance like you're saying Ame should have if she lived in Europe.

>>64133899
This really is the wagie seethe thread

>>64125988
Did she also go to moris party and get pregnante?

>>64135835
thats not what seething means
they wont have sex with you

>>64125988
She's been streaming? Huh, bummer I guess.

>>64125988
Rest in piss
Another holofaggot done in by the black company

>>64135726
Shit not even a criticism, I legit felt bad for her because I too thought starfield would be at least on the same level as Skyrim or even fucking fallout 4. like shit, it's been like 10 years since they announced it.
I was hyped for her starfield outfit and even bought the game day 1.
I haven't been this disappointed since ME Andromeda.

I can only imagine how she felt when was the one with the outfit

KIA
>Sana

MIA
>Gura
>Ame
>Mumei

Out of action
>Kronii
>Ina

Civilian
>IRyS

Frontline
>Bae
>Fauna
>Fuwamoco
>Shiori
>Nerissa

Cannon fodder
>Mori
>Kiara
>Bijou

>>64134795
> This will be the second winter in a row where HoloEN is having a suspicious number of breaks.
Almost as though people don’t want to work during Christmas.
You retarded fucking faggot.

>>64135865
Will you have sex with me?

>>64125988
Not gonna lie, this made me choke up a little. It's practically a goodbye.
See ya, space girl.

>>64136096
Oi vey! You dare ignore the wonderful holiday that is hanukkah. No goy slop for you young man

why is everyone doomposting, is it so weird for her to take a break after so long?

>>64134468
>>64134705
>Infrastructure to support any customers at all
>"Ah, tummy hort? Well our department needs to cut down on costs, have you considered killing yourself?"
I feel so supported lads
I also can't blame Ame at all, dealing with even the tiniest sliver of bureaucracy literally makes my head spin and my eyes glaze over to the point of literal nausea

>>64136581
Yes. Because she wont be streaming on the holidays which means shes getting FUCKED. Why else would she abandon us like this?

>>64136638
im sorry that you dont have a family to spend the holidays on

>>64133767
Classic redneck trailer park trap. Same problem niggers have; they immediately parasitize any of their own who happen to be even marginally successful. If your family has been poor for generations, your problems are 100% self-inflicted due to passing on a shit culture.

>Kamioshi Selen
>her mother is a leech and a stalker
>Holo oshi Ame
>her mother is a leech and cause problems every time she visits Ame
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHH

>>64130154
Because 5 out 60 members are the only ones crying about it, Pekora complains about it sometimes but she still does her job, those bitchs complain and stop doing it like a child, you can complain but do it anyways like a responsible adult, afterwards you resolve what you didn't like

>>64128333
Anon, no one around here reads enough to get that reference.

>>64126283
>>64127732
yea but she came back after that with an official 'shark is back' stream. We're talking about her most recent 70+ day hiatus which she finally said she was burnt out in a sponsored stream

>>64130704
damn her viewership sank like a rock because of all those pikmin and final fantasy streams

>>64136096
>Almost as though people don’t want to work during Christmas.
Why are so many of them taking breaks that go on for weeks/months? HoloEN didn't they have any problem in the winter of 2021 when they had a full branch collab on Christmas. After Sana's "graduation" their view of management changed and their contract renewals became more heated.

>>64130154
Because /vt/'s oshi is the company, not the talents. Anytime a holomem has a complaint about Cover, the fans will immediately tell them to shut up, sit down, and be thankful that they can continue to be millionaires through purely passive income.

>>64138356
>Nooooo it's not FAIR why do YOU not have to sell your soul to the sucking-bugman-cock grind like ME
>NOBODY is allowed to have different circumstances or better fortunes than ME
Green is the color of envy
And /vt/ is home to many, many green women