/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

>cockroach vtuber
>giving it attention
why are you faggots like this?

>>64117571
Nina please keep rubbing it in every single time you get something you never got in nijisanji.
Please.

have you ever thought about the fact that by all means, matara and nina arent the same even if the same person, so shes talking about matara herself? even if nina didnt get it, this doesnt mean she trying to do any shade.

>>64117626
Because NIJISEETHE

>>64117571
I'm sorry Nijicuck defenders, I couldn't help but laugh. This was genuinely funny. Good job, shitposter OP

>>64117626
You WILL drink the bug milk

>>64117673
Your argument might hold water if there's even the slightest effort by matara to keep the fact that she used to be nina a secret

>>64117673

Is this your first day on /vt/

>>64117626
quiet nijidog

>>64117626
>>cockroach vtube
I never understood why she did this, her old design was 10/10

>>64117857
Because she got ptsd from nijisanji

>>64117857
she doesn't own her old design

>>64117896
that dont even make sense, her fear of people hating her isnt due to niji but luxiem sisters at the time making the bitch list shit

>>64117642
Should add FuwaMoco getting two silver play buttons to the compilation

>>64117857
Are you retarded?

>>64117626
Certified NDF post

>>64117827
im the furthest thing from that but ok

>>64117626
>>cockroach vtuber
Damn there's a Turkish vtuber?

>>64117972
So, exactly because of nijiniggers?

>>64117972
The key contributor of which is literally in the same company as her too. Mysta's fans were unironically the ones who were the most awful about attacking her because she tried to get mysta to kiss another boy on stream and revealed to the world he wasn't as gay as he pretended to be.

She then quit to escape them and signed up for a company where he was at again. Any PTSD is self inflicted at this point
t.deadbeat

>>64118181
And isn't it nice that Mysta told all of them to shove a rusty pike up their stinking vags when he joined vshojo?

>>64118170
the guy there is saying she has fear because niji is black company, but thats different because its en sisters being retards

>>64118272
You mean nijisisters right? Because they are doing the same thing to Selen and pomu right now

>>64118246
Nta but give it another couple of months. I've seen the stream stats they're pretty awful and the lead person behind his discord fan server literally asked on Twitter the other day why so many people abandoned their oshis trying to understand why his fanbase was already dropping like flies.

He already went back to fujobaiting

>>64118361
>but give it another couple of months.
That's quite a long time cope you set up.

since you can apparently just order more, can't 2434 talents just dish out some $ from their pitiful 2% to buy one to take home?
or does the company frame it as an opsec/privacy thing and prohibit that too?

>want to see what she can achive in VS
>she only plays the same games

what a let down.

>>64118436
Not really. I just expect him to do what he's always done. Double down on the most idiotic choices possible

>>64117571
This kind of thing is moronic. You really could argue that the gold plaques deserve to go to the vtubers, but the silver ones are 100% guaranteed with well known vtuber redebuts, even on a VOD channel, when you motivate an already established fanbase to go and do it. They're guaranteed in Holo and Nijisanji, until the most recent Niji waves anyway.

>>64118505
Appearently yeah

based bug

>>64118528
So it's not actually guranteed in nijisanji?

>>64117642
What's the weird one Kaela got?

>>64117626
I want this cockroach to rape me.

>>64118519
Oh don't forget she also released a really mediocre song that did really mediocre numbers.
At least it's better than mysta who just does reaction content half the time and then has his discord mods ask why nobody is watching him.

>>64117673
What this anon said >>64117742 Mata talks about her time in "Hollywood" how she refers to Nijisanji so she doesn't say it all the time. She also mentions Pomu without saying her name frequently enough that people have started calling it out at /vsj+/. She won't say it because she's not allowed to, but literally everyone knows what she's talking about.

>>64118528
To be fair she just barely got enough subs to actually get the silver. Kuro got 100k subs almost instantly but her vod channel literally JUST reached 100k. It's dead as fuck

>Holocucks getting cucked once again deflection thread.

>>64118632
The most super chatted youtuber in Indonesia

>>64118777
impressive

>>64118632
looks like the 100M one PewDiePie (huh...the name is known to autocorrect) got way back when. But also looks like cheap acryl to save on shipping or something. It COULD be a silver one reflecting the red box I guess.

>>64118320
none of them are doing anything to pomu or selen. In fact none of the current membrs has anything even close to what nina had

>>64118691
did she even release mor music beside debut?

>>64117857
She wanted to be a monstergirl, her options were cockroach or snake, but as a vtuber you rarely show your tail so she want roach.

>>64118632

>>64118519
Wait a minute, she also played Vampire The Masquerade and Dwarf Fortress in Nijisanji?

>>64118877
Yeah she just released a song but it's kinda mid and literally nobody cared enough about it to shill it.
https://youtu.be/Kg-7priYpgg

>>64119151
she has been playing that since debut to the point is kinda boring.

>>64119171
jesus that channel is dead

nijiseethe

>>64118566
The most recent wave has had a terrible time getting any traction. Niji does really well when it can reach new fans, but it hamstrings itself in markets where fans are already spread too thin.

>>64117857
Are you zoomer or something? Can't you tell that her mama literally made Monster girl quest.

>>64119397
So, all the markets they are currently in?

>>64119466
Yeah, they aren't bad but they don't do anything new, so while they aren't bad vtubers there's no place to get new fans from. That is more unique to the EN market though. They just are finishing auditions for people with "acting skills", which definitely is going to target a different kind of fan, but who knows if something like that would catch on.

>>64119646
HoloEN is getting new fans fine so that seems like a nijisanji issue

>>64118519
But she already played a ton of different games?

>>64119833
Hololive appeals to a different kind of fanbase that Nijisanji can't, partially due to being allowed to be cruder, and partially due to the male/female mix. Both companies really don't seem interested in expanding more in the west, though.

>>64119868
boring ones. her content really dried up.

Huh? Vwhorefags don't call them dead subs?

>>64118519
Turns out that she was a flop for a reason

>>64120135
That's entirely subjective, it's a bit sad you already have to move the goalposts however, nijidrone.

>>64120144
Its only dead subs if its other corpos. All hail Vshojo they can never do any wrong

>>64117642
Not jist her but pretty much everyone that leaves Niji and is getting one is rubbing it in.

>>64117571
I wonder if Anycolor will actually send out the plaques eventually to answer people making fun of them for this nonstop, I mean that would be one way to try to say "we do try to care for our talents despite what JP headquarters/you think" although since it's been this long, I dunno, I guess Riku really rather would line up their central office with them like trophies instead of cough up like $100 per talent to buy them an extra plaque. They aren't even limited to strictly one-ever, they can fucking buy an extra one to keep around the building themselves, they are just too cheap to do that despite making so much fucking money (which anycolor fans like to gloat about).

>>64120408
Even if they do it'd be too late

>>64120408
Too late, it's already ingrained into the general vtuber community that nijisanji livers don't get plaques

>>64119833
It's really not though.
Myth have been streaming to some of their lowest numbers since debut while the new gens seem to siphon off of the older ones. Even people like Shiori and Nerissa have fallen off to 6k or below. Each gen seems to take a lot out of the last one, you can check Kroniis numbers lately compared to how they were before advent and see for yourself that Kiaras fears of council stealing her audience weren't unfounded as every new gen just seems to shift a good chunk of the existing audience over to them

>>64120435
>>64120466
Kek, based

>>64118361
>the lead person behind his discord fan server
You're stalking his fans? pathetic

>>64117571
Riku needs it for his yacht, please understand

>>64117626
ahh yes i love the smell of Nijisister tears in the morning

>>64118519
>>64118691
But hey at least her view count is higher since she muted tab views are a thing right?

>>64117626
Unironically what the fuck?

>>64117571
based roach

>>64117626
you vill watch ze bug. live in ze pod

田角反省しる

>>64122739
Yes, I will watch ze bug.

>>64118505
Talents have to go thru Anycolor to buy a copy, they can't do so purely out of their own volition. And of course, the company denies them that possibility. It's likely the reasoning they give is indeed opsec/NDA-oriented, but it's obvious it's also a power play.

>>64117571
please don't wake up ever again, ty

>>64123907
NIJISEETHE

>>64117642
I never got why niji withholds them. Yes they already treat their talents like shit, but giving them the damn play button is basically an ever present way to stoke their pride and ego, which will motivate them to be more committed to the company and vtubing.
That's the entire reason YouTube started the play button award in the first place. To have content creators stick it on their wall, see it everyday, and think "Wow I've achieved so much, people love me, I need to keep making more content so more people love me".
They are literally kneecapping themselves out of YouTubes free content creator skinnerbox. It's the most retarded thing Niji does in my opinion and that's saying a lot.

>>64124266
If what the girl who shitcanned for not being a fan of baseball said when she earned her silver, the Niji offices has a hallway of them you have to walk through to get to any meetings. It's a tonedeaf attempt at a power move.

>>64124266
because THEY ARE MINE!
ALL MINE!

>>64124296
>hallway of silver play buttons
kek

>>64124296
Yeah I know what they do with them. It's still retarded. YouTube is hands you a cruelty free whip to make your employees work harder and you stick it in an office where it not only won't have the intended effect, it will actively make your talents resent you and work less. Even letting it go so far to where talents shit talk you for not giving them the fucking dopamine whip.

The only potential benefit you get is shareholds/board members walking down and thinking "cool the company is doing good". And the same exact effect could be gotten by A. requesting 2 or B. Just making your own damn hall of fame display that will probably look a fuck ton better then a hall of silver plaques.

It is an absolutely braindead practice.

>>64124296
As >>64124644 said that does not explain why they won't let them order another (even on their own dime).

>>64124644
I mean it's not like holos earn it in the first place. Just being in holo gets you one before you even debut kek.

>>64124820
>sour grapes

>>64117571
SILVER PLAQUE DORYAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

>>64117857
becasue sobin is fucking overrated and overlord sucks cock

>>64118773
If youre talking about the christmas minecraft thing, I do not claim them.

T. Holofan

>>64124820
Nijinigger, it's not about earning it, that has nothing to do with what I'm saying. YouTube made the award to farm more content out of creators who have already proven their popularity. That is the net benefit for them as a company, that and a bit of good PR.
Niji is taking YouTube's very well crafted skinnerbox and actively fucking themselves with it by denying their talents from having it.
Every YouTuber wants the fucking play button. "Earned" or not it doesn't matter. The end effect of "Wow look at my big number, look at this physical reminder of my big number! I'm gonna hang this memorial to my big number on my wall where I can see it everyday. Man, I need to keep making content so that someday I can get the shiner gold or even diamond big number reminder!" is the whole fucking point.

>>64124820
You already said it yourself anon.
>Just being in holo gets you one before you even debut kek.
They already deserve and earned those plaques simply from the fact they manage to be one of the five lucky girls in the most coveted seat in vtuber industry.

>>64124266
The company apparently has a culture of trying to make you feel worthless without them.
It might also be why they kept blocking Selen from organizing anything for a while.

>>64124820
Homos dont count as holo right?
Tch.

>>64125083
From the boss himself

>>64125083
This, the reason why Selen was probably allowed to organize the Apex event was because both Nina and Mysta jumped ship and are infinitely happier in their own outfit.
And Any Color in a moment of clarity realized if they keep shitting on their most popular EN, she will jump ship when her contract expires.
It's still sad for Selen since it's battered house wife syndrome and she'll always have antis both from Niji and Hololive after her.

>>64120144
>>64120269
NIJISEETHE

>>64125249
>>64125083
This, while completely true, is still retarded and doesn't apply to this case. As an individual outside of a company earning a play button is "wow I did this, I'm amazing!". But that's not the case for Niji or holo talents. The vast majority of Niji or Holo hires never achieved or just barely achieved the the sub count needed for a play button in their indie career. The plague still has the benefit of making them feel acomplished, but it now comes with the added effect of "I could never do this before getting into Niji. I'm so happy I made it in!".
Even if they fucking hate the company, even if they hate how management treats them, even if they want to deny it on a surface level, the plague reminds them they are nothing without the company. And it reinforces to them that only by being in the company can things like this become possible for them.
Niji's whole fucking company culture is gaslighting their talents and they can't even do it right.

>>64120408
If it's so cheap, why isn't Anycolor sending the originals to their livers and buying extra ones for themselves?

>>64124315
>>64125203
Also I feel bad for Selen for being forced to make Riku a Yagoo clone when Yagoo used as that friendly uncle who's also a punching bag for the idols.
Meanwhile Riku just looks like the villain in a high school drama.

>>64120473
>Myth have been streaming to some of their lowest numbers since debut
NTA but this isn't a fair comparison. Myth debuted at a time where people were desperate for any form of at-home entertainment. A vast majority of their subscribers likely don't even watch vtubers in general anymore. Growth across the entire EN branch is at a crawl because there simply aren't that many people still getting into vtubing who aren't already interested in them. The bubble has burst in the West which is why it's only Japan that still sees growth. Japs love this shit. It's mainstream for them. Vtubing was basically just a fad in the West and once people got their lives back it went back to being a niche thing like it would have been from the beginning if it wasn't for covid.

So of course their numbers are lower. The market is a shell of its former self in the West.

>>64125580
The Umbridge of vtubing
Gad I hated that fat bitch in the books. And the movies. She's every student's nightmare.

>>64125993
who?

>>64119136
Looks cooler than most of the play buttons anyway.

>>64126200
well yeah, it not mass produced so they can afford to spare abit more on it without worrying about mass production costs

>>64125935
Which is a good thing

>>64119136
Wonder if they'll do this again for 2023

>>64117626
Fucking nijiseethe holy

>>64117571
With people saying how popular Nina was, Matara getting 100k, was kind of slow? I guess its because shes on Twitch now than Youtube, but still congrats on the plaque.

>>64127514
There's surprisingly little overlap between Twitch and Youtube. They each have their own distinct brand of retarded communities.

>>64118519
>Yeah still better than 2% kek

>>64118691
NIJISEETHE

>>64124644
You can also just pay a hundred bucks for a duplicate

>>64120484
Kek

>>64120269
Nijidrones kneel before the Queen

COCKROOACH MILKY MWAH SUCKY CHEWY NIPPLE MILKY MOMMY MILKY WAAAAA IM BABY I WANT TO DRINK BOOBY NIPPLE SLURPY

>>64117673
>>64127604
can confirm, am a twitch retard and I basically don't watch YouTube streaming

>>64129943
Me too, Cheebs, me too

>>64125935
Even past that though, the latest gen, advent, are struggling to maintain 6k viewers. Nerissas already dropped to 4k 3 times this month alone, bijou has had several sub 6k streams this month (before they were raided into), Shiori isnt fairing any better either even having a sub 4k stream this month until being raided. Fwmc have been being botted for the past month but before then were also regularly hitting just barely about 6k. Bae and Kronii both hitting sub 6k on the regular lately and it's not like things are much better in Myth with Mori having one of the lowest months she's ever had last month frequently dipping below Kiara who herself can't even hit 6k lately. What's even sadder is that there's not a ton of overlap of talents. A lot of them share the same base of fans which has been slowly but steadily deceasing over the past two years to the point where even the latest gen, despite having a ton of hype, have crashed to council numbers or below and don't stream over each other that often in comparison to nijis who have 20 streams at the same time.
There are a total of two people in hololive en who can still regularly hit 10k and one of them hasn't streamed for anything but pr/merch for over 3 months.

To make matters worse not a single member of council has hit 1 million subs yet. All signs point to HoloEn declining and not growing.

>>64117626
Because mommy milkers

>>64124266
riku snorts coke off of them

>>64117642
This, but unironically

>Captcha
kek, even the board itself agrees

>>64117642
use the latest one bro

>>64126042
Dolores.
Umbridge.

Uppity landwhale introduced in Book 5 of Harry Potter. Dies in 6 (?)

>>64137085
who?

>>64137155
Okay now youre just being an mf

>>64124820
Sisters think that the very act of entering hololive being enough proof of status is supposed to be a bad thing

>>64132557
The FuwaMoco botting cope is so hilarious. I'm not reading your nonsense. Get fucked.

>>64124820
Your time shitting on Holofags is better used on buying an ad for your 3 view Niji spleens.

>>64138825
KEK

>>64137727
Ah yes the perfectly natural loss of 7k viewers 11 minutes into your stream.

>>64135288
Needs an update with fwmc

>>64132557
>doomposting about 6k viewers
That's still like 6x what the average Niji gets. Even on the high end I rarely see a Niji get above 3k. Don't throw stones in glass houses

>>64135288
The Kuro tweet on the left is funny. He actually showed some of the vids he made when he was a kid on stream and yeah he was legitimately a fucking child when he started this shit.

>>64140499
Not so much doom posting as much as I'm pointing out that a gen that was super hyped and extremely wanted has already fallen to the same level as everyone else or even below them and that the fanbase isn't really growing.
Even as late as a year ago people in en were getting 8-10k regularly.

The HoloEn fanbase is shrinking a lot on a year to year basis. 6k and shrinking with little to no overlap isn't exactly a great sign from the biggest vtuber company in the west.

>>64140669
And hes still... mid? When it comes to actual content creation and not just having a british voice that the chinese like?

>>64141560
>I'm not doomposting, I'm just doomposting.
Do nijiniggers really

>>64141586
I think you're confusing Kuro with Vox

>>64141610
Call it doom posting if it makes you feel better but you're not really arguing against it. We've gone from a 10k standard across the board for holo to an 8k standard to now a 6k standard and decreasing. A new gen wasn't enough to stop stagnation and if you compare advents peak to councils peak not only was the peak of council larger but it lasted longer too. Not even a year later and some members of Advent are barely beating out people like Kiara

>>64142126
Nta but they're both pretty mid. There's a reason why kuro has hardly any paypigs post luxiem and why vox can barely get 2k anymore

>>64142241
Yeah anon it's not because he told you to shove a rusty pike up your vagina or anything

>>64142270
I'd have to have a vagina to shove a rusty pike up there first but you'll have to be more specific. Vox told his audience to fuck off too.

>>64124266
It literally only costs $100 for additional play buttons too.

>>64141586
https://streamable.com/vowtzu
He absolutely doesn't want the chinese audience

>>64137085
Nope never dies

>>64124266
At this point it’s on them if you want it so bad order an extra one it’s like $100 or if you prove it’s a group effort they give you up to 3-5 (don’t remember the exact number) seeing how fuwamoco got 2. At a certain point getting mad because you smell shit but won’t clean it makes it your fault

>>64120473
>>64125935
Gura’s numbers aren’t much worse it’s been the same since yt changed how they count views at the end of 2020. Kiara only dropped off sometime this year around the time she acknowledged the homos

>>64143300
If they could they would, Nijisanji doesn't let them do it

>>64142199
>Myth has virtually no competition
>Huge success
>Other indies start getting spotlight/more viewers
>A large chunk of Myth fans become vtubers themselves and have less time to be Holo viewers
>this continues into Council and Advent
>HoloEN goes from the face of EN Vtubers to just another channel they can watch on TV or they can watch Niji, other indies, their friends or stream themselves
It's not a Holo problem. It's an "everyone else carved out a their own slice of Holo's shares" problem

>>64143381
Gura hasn't streamed enough to even get an idea of what her current true viewership would be. Every stream she does is a "return stream"

>>64143433
Of course it's not a holo exclusive problem but as I was saying to begin with, signs do not point towards growth in HoloEn. Signs point to the opposite of that. The original comment was that >>64119833
>HoloEN is getting new fans fine so that seems like a nijisanji issue
But when you actually take a peak at the numbers you'll see there's been a large decrease in the support of HoloEn. The large corporations are not having as much success here in the west and in fact indies are slowly gaining more and more popularity as large corporate chuubas are slowly getting less popular

>>64143381
Gura is an exception as well as fauna. Both of which have maintained a sizable audience and have been able to regularly hit 10k when they stream.
That said, an exception is just that, an exception. Generally speaking myth council and advent have all declined in numbers and have continued to do so as time goes on.

I blame cover for their lack of interest in en events same thing as anycolor really

>>64144019
>indies are slowly gaining more and more popularity
Such as who?
No really name me one indie that can regularly get 5k, nevermind the stuff HoloEN usually gets

>>64144411
here's the first ones i could think of, but there's more
EN
>Shylily
>Filian
>Vedal987
>Vei
KR
>vo_ine
>viichan6
>jingburger

>>64144171
I blame the fact that you only have 2 schools in en shit on your fans then beg for them to come back or complain about the amazing you life you live. Gura has people begging her to complain about her problems or anything really while bleeding the least viewers in en. Maybe the rest of en should just mind their business and just be fun entertainers. It’s easy for jp to get things but at the same time you don’t see the ones that get passed over complaining they just go maybe next year

>>64144730
Are you going to post their numbers?

>>64145766
According to stream charts shylily in the past 30 days peaked at 9.8k viewers and has an average of 4.9k.
Pretty good.

Fillian
9.3 k peak
5.8k average

Vedal
8.2k peak
5.3k average

Vei
18.3k peak
5.2k average

Really not much different from Holo.

>>64145714
Sure you could definitely argue that, there's a lot less kayfabe in en But it does not dismiss the fact that both any color and cover are really fucking awful at e n events. 3D lives are rare and the studios are always booked and etc etc, while JP gets access even if they're less successful than EN. It's kind of frustrating and sad because it's not just one company that does it, both companies have been doing it and it's shitty.

>>64146302
They also need to make more appearances at other larger events.
Where the fuck are they with panels at other large, non anime exclusive events like Vidcon or Comic Con?

>>64124296
paris has a hallway of FAKE ASS copies of PAINTINGS
this bitch ass chinaman should have done the same, but no, fucking ego rampant all over the place

>>64140190
No wonder they are desperately trying to shit on Ironmouse.

>>64146476
Yeah, there are a lot of problems with both companies and their Japanese oversight that has flat out ignored cultural norms and how to properly grow themselves in the West It's actually very frustrating to look at from a non-tribal perspective because both companies are really bad about literally hardly advertising the people that they have working for them.
Nijisanji in particular keep getting invited to the same convention over and over again and hololive has a ton of fans who'd love to see them at different conventions performing live but ax was the first and only place they've performed and even then it was pre recorded because it HAD to feature JP and id

>>64146476
See the answer is cover doesn’t care they didn’t even start doing a big push for cons until recently coinciding with new debuts and I don’t mean council. Ironically they started adding jp and id as well to these events ID for some reason giving them the bigger events. If you’re not part of the special 10 members who literally can’t be ignored because they’re usually picked by name only the members that play ball gets everything. Depending on your views on meritocracies it’s in some ways worse than Anycolor. Like Kiara by en standards is a shitter bottom 3 but she’s above almost all of ID like 20 members of JP while getting less than them it’s a bit unfair

>>64146189
2 are barely straddling the 5k line one of which is ex corpo but even more interesting is shylily’s absence. So among thousands of indies you got a handful comparable to the lower members of holoen. That’s not indies getting bigger that’s special cases attaching themselves to bigger streamers and getting bigger

>>64147189
It’s so weird honestly and it’s not a JP thing say what you want about kawaii but for a company that can’t afford to pay Nintendo for their games they somehow get things done way faster than the big ones. En songs both covers/originals, con visits, perms are way faster, they pulled off the first American vtuber concert which was somehow closer to being live than CtW, and they appear at a lot of cons. It’s definitely not a money thing either considering they can’t even afford new outfits on demand and again they can’t even play Nintendo games because they can’t afford the fees. It’s frustrating

>>64117571
all niji organs and anything they might receive while being part of the nijisanji family BELONGS to Riku-sama and if Riku-sama wants to keep the youtube plaques for himself then it is an absolute rule.

>>64124266
They do not want any physical evidence that you were a member of Nijisanji when you leave the company.
You can see evidence in that when they try to claim people who left the company just didn't want to be a VTuber anymore.

>>64117988
Hilarious.

>>64120466
what a surprise that a hololive channel has nijisanji antis.

>>64125580
Forced lmao theres members who do and who dont talk about him

>>64125249
Are you retarded? A holoniji event like this isnt organized that fast and soon and procedures arent changed that fast in a jp company either. This shit was in the making for at least 6 or more months.

>>64125083
There's no such culture in there. Literally no one ever said that, and dont come with zaion shit when she never said anything about that just about the own members feeling that way

>>64148951
you mean the evidence is a Q&A shareholder meeting where they will never speak in a way to make the company look bad?

>>64150276
>This shit was in the making for at least 6 or more months.
And it only takes a minute for management to ratfuck the entire thing with a message saying Selen can't do it.
Time isn't the issue.

>>64119440
MGQbros.... we're 40 now

>>64150701
>MGQbros.... we're 40 now
And Part 3 of Paradox still has no release date haha...

>>64150370
yes time is a issue. you clearly dont know jp companies if you think things are changed that fast.

>>64117571
What does a twitch streamer need with a youtube plaque?

>>64150276
>you mean the evidence is a Q&A shareholder meeting where they will never speak in a way to make the company look bad?
Yes, the Q&A shareholder meeting where they lied point blank to their investors, which is rarely a winning strategy in the long run.

>>64117571
Matara stop throwing shade to your ex black company. You are going to make Millie very sad and possibly cry :(

Did Pikamee ever get a silver button?

>>64117988
>mfw FuwaMoco play buttons made me realize that Nijisanji could literally just order another copy of the Play button for their office and let the talents keep the originals.

>>64160565
That would take money and effort. Livers don't deserve those nor should they have physical proof they used to be in Niji

>>64124936
>this retarded

>>64161065
yeah, it was anykara who brought out the talents for them to be vtubers.

>>64147713
>Lower
the average for HoloEn at this point is 5.8k and it's not exactly rising either. This is 6 months after debut. 6 months after one of the most explosive debuts since myth.

>>64147982
Maybe there's too many middlemen in Niji and Hololive. Not even just Yagoo/Riku and the managers but a bunch of other staff that created their own red tape as is the norm with large Japanese companies

>>64163008
Why do you retard keep comparing Twitter CCV to YouTube CCV?