/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

>>64109174
Yeah!

NOW she's an idol, after looking down on the culture for years lmao. Rich.

>>64109174
So when is she going to collab on someone else's channel? It was funny at first, but now her leeching is so shameless.

>>64109174
>a whore*
ftfy

Why are both kronii and mori acting this way?

>>64109174
Thanks for the ad i will watch this

>>64110079
Gee I wonder.

>>64109174
Now she wants to act like an idol?

>>64110265
ruffians can't stop winning

>>64109449
NIJISEETHE >>64110007

>>64110945
I don't consider Mori a member of hololive. I pray she fucks off to nijisanji or vshojo.

>>64110630
You mean losing money

I'll suffer Mori for you, Friend.

>>64111037
Seething 2view Vtweeter hands wrote this

>>64111080
Best post

>>64111080
are you really losing money if you spend it on something you enjoy?

>>64110079
If you'd give me the opportunity I'll explain it.

Most female content creators, not just vtubers or streamers, have phases in their content creation.
This is typically tied to their age, but it's also an approximation of their lived experiences forcing them to evolve.
Now I'm going to dissect Mori here to show you what I mean.
>spent her teenage years not caring about her future, just engaged with Alt culture
>eventually convinced herself to move to japan to live a said Alt culture lifestyle since nothing was tying her to her home
>spent the next few years trying hard break out in said culture she idolized as a teenage girl while wage slaving as an english teacher
>her success was middling, she was investing most of the profit from her job after bills directly into music production and it never really made more money than it costed to create
>none of the people in her social circle were particularly successful either
>this all changed when she applied to hololive with her friend milkyqueen and sydsnap as a joke
>over the course of a month, she went from barely being able to fund her own projects, to now having breakout success in a gig she was never intending to take seriously
>in the following months she would try to spread some of her newfound wealth and success with her social circle
>they either directly tried to leech off of her and her company, or they completely scorned her in general for becoming corporate and fake
>this caused a big schism in her mentality, she felt that her success was different from Calliope Mori's success, so she sought to redebut her IRL persona with aggressive marketing and events
>this ended up not working how she would have hoped, and she ended up getting jaded that Calliope Mori is now much more famous than she would ever be
>this caused her to start antagonizing her own fans at some points when they didn't deserve it, and would start drinking heavily in order to stream
>she had a series of meltdowns during this dark period where she felt trapped as Calliope Mori and actively self-sabotaged herself, along with other issues she had IRL
>her music suffered heavily during this period as well as the songs were costing more to produce but were not seeing the same returns like she saw with her earlier songs
>after other talents that she collabed with had graduated or terminated, she started reflecting on what exactly the opportunity in Hololive meant for her personally, and how her whole mentality of focusing on what people outside of hololive think of her has always been toxic
>this in turn caused her to reevaluate the way she treated her fans who stuck by her despite the meltdowns, she realized that she is honestly grateful that they stuck by her despite being a fuck up and that she wants to give back to Hololive that has stuck by her no matter what

All in all, her and Kronii's story is basically about figuring out what's personally important for yourself.
For a lot of female content creators, the fans either becomes a distraction for moving on with their life, or their fans become their life.
And they decided that their fans that stick by them no matter what were the most important thing to them.

So now they make content to appreciate the guys that work hard and send them their hard earned money, like Kiara says;
>"You know guys, giving me money like this that I spend on food and stuff to live my life, it's almost like we're married"

>>64111037
t-two weeks, sister... surely...

>>64109174
She's not an idol. You can like her and still acknowledge this. Not all performers are idols

>>64110265
Homo doko?

>>64112336
Good job anon this was insightful

>>64110079
what way?

The pillars of Hololive

>>64112336
>Schizo ramblings of an alternate world
KEK. Every single assumption on these greentext sounds like the ramblings of an unironic 2view who thinks Mori stole a spot from her in HoloMyth.

>>64112336
i see, thank you for giving me a different point of view on mori's character arch

>>64111080
Some people have money to spend on luxuries instead of using all their wages on daily portion of pagpag.

>>64110265
You're making it blatantly obvious that you don't watch streams

>>64110007
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z_i0kH9f9YQ
She's been the one organizing most of these collabs (L4D has a FBK pov as well, since she organized), so I think you're being retarded on purpose.

>>64109174
I've never seen Marin play l4d before. She's pretty good at running away. FBK will survive, she's a veteran

>>64112336
This may have some validity to it but I think "UMG needs her to stop damaging her brand because it's a risk to her music's performance" is the real push that got her to change tune, and either she decided to fix her shit herself, someone else convinced her to (other Holos, friends etc) or Cover outright got tired of her antics and tardwrangled her hard.

>>64109174
Ironically the only one in that Collab that is an idol is Marine.

>>64109174
>2M subs line up
HOLY SHIT

>>64112953
>>64114746
Most of it is schizo rambling and theorycrafting
t.actually watches her instead of building narratives off of narratives about her

>>64109174
>>64108202
>>64112751
>>64113758
What's with all the Mori seethe threads?

>>64112336
almost every single thing in here is factually, verifiably wrong but the conclusion is ultimately correct

>>64115341
>still pushing for this narrative.
We all know that you're still grasping at straws, schizo-kun.

>>64115467
Can you explain why "beancounters at UMG observing her stats and performance want their fucking money back" doesn't make sense? They wouldn't give a fuck about Mori's shitty childish attitude and tell her to stop fucking up or they will drop her.

>>64115441
It's so bizarre how commonly I'm seeing that these days. People actually seeing who she is as a person after years of eating rratshit wholesale, but the rrats are so ingrained they have to work backwards trying to justify it to themselves.

>>64115436
Ya boy has been getting popular again.

>>64115499
Because Mori is a runaway success for them and they see her as a valuable asset, and there are literally business articles from UM that expressly state as much.

>>64110630
they have to split the money though

>>64115317
Oh do what you're saying is that nobody wants her on their channel and that's why she does nothing but collabs on her channel?

>>64115499
Schizo-kun , stop making things up that didn't happen. Any speculation that her releases have been flops are just biased wishful thinking from people like you.

>>64115528
Posting this over and over won't make people give her an eleventh chance. Just accept that her solo numbers are garbage. Lowest views during the sports festival for a reason. She deserves it.

>>64115647
Just stating things as they are, friend. No one wants to win over numberfags

>>64115553
>Advent and JP is keepig her channel on life support
Fixed that for you.

>>64115713
Just admit that you're :
>If that were me instead, I'd have better CCV than the thief who stole my spot!

>>64115499
>Can you explain why "beancounters at UMG observing her stats and performance want their fucking money back" doesn't make sense?
Because we know the brass at UMG actually think, and it massively differs to your baseless schizo conjecture (we also know her last project was one of her highest selling ever since being signed with them by that's besides the point)

>>64115713
Nah, there's some legit zoomerbeats who discovered her through Spotify.

>>64112336
The reality is Mori and Kronii both failed at waitressing/working in fast food and are quickly realizing not only is this the only thing they could be good at, they don't even have to be good at it to make money so better ride this gravy train while it lasts.

>>64115840
Imagining championing some other fag's schizopost
>gigachad.jpg
kek

>>64112336
This story is 80% conjecture

>>64115840
>The reality is Mori and Kronii both failed at waitressing/working in fast food and are quickly realizing not only is this the only thing they could be good at
God DAMN, this post REEKS of bitter "IT SHOULD'VE BEEN MEEEEEEEEE!" energy lol
Cheer up sis, maybe if you watch them enough you'll learn a thing or two that'll help you EN gen4's auditions open up

nominates herself in a vtuber awards hosted that pos loser filian and it's sponsored by Fansly


yea what an idol she is

they only way a vtuber female can remain relevant is do the cringe lewd stuff it seems. or have a sexo model.. no talent

>>64115436
Someone has a meltdown over her every couple months and spams the shit out of the catalog. Maybe his range ban finally ended. Based on one of the the threads it is probably a leantourist that is mad Mori just learned from that mistake instead of becoming "le epic tab machine" they wanted.

>>64115994
Mori "learns from her mistakes" every 6 months when her ccv and sc income starts freefalling.

>>64115568
but they also split their expenses.

Twins win every time.

>>64116163
Anon, just train for the next audition. Seething like this for almost 4 years is not helping your entrance to the corpo you want.

>>64112336
I’m not reading all this

>>64116163
Sis, stop seething her """mistakes""" are just you being ass mad over shit that doesn't even concern you

>>64115372
Hah, lemme guess, because no males.

>>64115976
nta but I would think it'd make senseat least Kronii realized she is blowing it and her post-Holo career might well just be mostly cashing in on her old Holo fame either way, so she might as well start to actually try to make the most of where she is because years from now if she's mostly known as being "that lazy mopey holo who hated her model, couldn't stop riding vesper's dick and blew her chances" would not be a great reputation to hinge off of later. She needs a redemption arc to eventually retire with grace whenever that is, if her future self intends on still being some kind of public figure/entertainer - and the same applies to Mori.

>>64115323
She played it with sankisei some months ago

>>64116378
>"that lazy mopey holo who hated her model, couldn't stop riding vesper's dick and blew her chances"
The thing is, nobody but like 100~ or drama addicted monkies who browse this board and don't even watch her (or vtubers in general) know her as that

>>64116584
We know her merch sales absolutely fucking tanked a year back, and that was a serious indicator that yes her goslings were generally totally gone and it was very-probably due to essentially forcing her fans to pick sides over Vesper/stars collabs. Whatever you want to wish into existence, the tussle over hololive/starsEN interactions was not at all contained to here.

>>64116163
Lmao EXACTLY like this person. It's basically clockwork at this point.

>>64116672
>We know her merch sales absolutely fucking tanked a year back, and that was a serious indicator that yes her goslings were generally totally gone and it was very-probably due to essentially forcing her fans to pick sides over Vesper/stars collabs.
No, it tanked because they were charging like 100 bucks (+shipping, +tax) on a fucking bento box lol

>>64116672
Anon, your reality is on a parallel universe. Stop making assumptions based on your biased worldview.

>>64116330
There was a dude spamming this exact thing in Mori's pre chat. I really want to know what triggered him so badly suddenly.

>>64116163
your channel will never pop off roastie

>>64116745
Her shit was the last to sell out and was conspicuously still available well after the other girls' sold out. Does not take a PhD to figure out what happened. And even if you somehow doubted hard evidence in plain sight, someone had figured out that there was a way to learn the sales per item from the order site and we know that was real because they went and patched it immediately after word got out people peeped and noticed Kronii's sales were a complete crater.

>>64115840
Kronii never tried to own the haters. That's a lie

>>64116860
Anon, her records/EPs/Vinyls sell gangbusters, stop projecting your 2view life unto her.

>>64116378
There's no evidence she ever hated her model and she didn't "ride vesper's dick"

>>64116860
Proof? Right, none. Kys

>>64115436
Deadbeats are very easily baitable. Just like IMfags

>>64116903
She didn't do Mori-style "I know you hate this and I'm doing it very-specifically just to spite you" kind of shit, but she waffled a ton over the Stars backfire situation and they key breaking point was that went back on her word after she told her fans, members in specific, that she was going to limit her interactions with them and then later reneged on it hard. The other context was Kronii was a huge gosling magnet and also was heavy on the business-yuri side of things so to speak. The presence of Vesper getting her panties audibly wet completely vaporized the KroniiRyS type thing they had going and so on. Basically Kronii broke the most core things about her structure.

>>64111080
Isn't giving money to your prefered chuuba kinda the point here?

>>64116910
>Deadbeats white knight Mori even when people aren't talking about Mori
Fucking KEK. You fucks have a persecution complex and are in denial about her low solo ccv.

>>64117057
Anon, please. You have to come back to the real world. Your family is worried. Your delusions are not reality, no matter how many times you repost them.

>>64117035
If thats was the case You wouldn't need to spam bait threads suddenly unless you had a mental break.

>>64117135
Please spare me the delusion, you've been saying this for almost 4 years, without anyone believing you.

>>64116933
her bday merch was the only one that had to get a sale extension. like I said it was fucking outright known the exact numbers, the exact digits, of how much was sold per council member and kronii's sales were abysmal. denying shit right in front of your face just makes you look like a moron.

>>64117197
and yet You kept biting, knowing full well it's a bait thread.

>>64117233
Yikes. Kronii used to be the top performing Council. Now she is the runt of her gen.

>>64110265
wtf I assumed the dogs were shitters when it came to superchats and Shiori was the superchat queen of Advent. Looks like I was wrong... Ruffians are something else.

>>64116933
>There's no evidence she ever hated her model
Their evidence is super funny because it's just "SHE HIDE HER TITS!"
But if you've every actually watch her her stream you'd notice that she just cuts her model off at the bust (Like 90% of vtubers do) it's just that her torso is like 70% breast so some of it obviously gets cut off by her OBS capture
Their argument is ostensibly is "Kronii doesn't shake her tits on screen for me to goon my cock to, so she hates her model!"
Meanwhile she's like constantly talking to Wada to on twitter lol

>>64117316
Shiori clearly intended on trying to be what the dogs are, but her one singular flub about "respect muh collab choices" right from debut sank her reputation and made her fanbase very wary and schizo-y, because novelites then right away needed to implement a constant self-reinforcement feedback mechanism of "I'm fine everything's fine she's totally our wife isn't this great haha.." to cope with the fact she said that. For now it's "two more weeks" etc but I mean, if that dam ever breaks (and I honestly don't know if it will, I don't have a crystal ball) she'd plummet.

>>64116766
Dont know exactly how or why and I may not wanna know

>>64116933
Heh, pls understand, to them: collab=sex

>>64115980
>nominates herself in a vtuber awards hosted that pos loser filian and it's sponsored by Fansly
Anon, those nominations were determined by popular vote, I'm not sure Mori is even aware those awards are a thing.

>>64117444
retarded catalognigger only reads, no watching of course

>>64117397
What if my evidence is that disgusted paizuri is hot?

>>64117866
Then you're pretty fucking based

>>64117057
she didn't reneged hard, she had 1 twitter interaction.
>Vesper getting her panties audibly wet completely
you didn't watch the collabs

>>64117213
Okay let me help you understand what happened here:
This anon >>64116860 you replied to with this >>64116910 was talking about Kronii...

This is why this anon >>64117135 said that you have a persecution complex

>>64109449
A classic that never truly goes down.

>>64109174
Who?

>>64117625
Male collabs = flirting = cheating

>>64112336
>Tldr

>>64112336
I have a more realistic take for you
>thinks vtubing is fake and gay
>thinks the money must be nice though
>apply because why not
>didn't actually believe they'd get in
>money rolling in
>stream still thinking it's all fake and gay
>thinks fans are fake and gay
>antagonize said fans
>fans leave
>money goes down
>vtubing might be serious business
>pretend past didn't happen
>new fans join
>be nice to new fans
>money rolling in
>suddenly give a shit now
It may be water under the bridge but they already burned the bridges

>>64123596
this entire argument crumbles under the fact that Mori was good on both SC, memberships and merch sales through that entire period

>>64109449
So true!

>>64123752
>merch sales prove they don't think vtubing is fake and gay
Ogey
>b-but muh numbers
Nigger her view numbers have gone down to average near half since debut. If she hadn't fucked herself the first year her merch sales would've been higher

>>64123752
Of course it is still good. They are Inside hololive. their low is still high

>>64123983
>her numbers went down since debut
>shockedgasp.jpg
you're a real genius there, dude
>t-the sales could be higher tho!
when you retreat that much you might as well ditch the argument as a whole

>>64124047
I'm talking in context of "them" as HoloEN tho
Mori's bday merch outsold Fauna's, who was highest in promise, and that was with Mori's being tracked by a shorter period
she's also on par with SCs while getting so much membership gifts she actually went past her near debut membership peaks
she asked Cover to double the stock on her most recent limited set to make sure fans from different timezones will have a shot at it and it still sold out
and that's not even counting the UMJ shop merch she's pushing because that's not something /#/s can easily track

>>64124063
>no rebuttals
Concession accepted

>>64109449
I don't like real life idols either, mostly because of the restrictions companies put on them.
But as a vtuber you can do anything you want, as long as you keep your private life separate.

>>64115436
first time?

>>64109174
>Mori Calliope is an idol!
Yes but for how long?

>>64110265
I'm glad to see Raden up there. She's really brought a fresh but fitting cultural aspect to Hololive.

>>64109449
ehhhh

>>64126188
9 months

remember that incident where associates were involved in [REDACTED] and janny annihilated an entire seperate general for a year because of the subject matter without even bringing up the association? even funny when the vtuber got [REDACTED] and just because of association it the news got deleted on sight

>>64115570
Anon?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z7mYvNybjZY

>>64110265
kek

>>64110007
never ever

>>64126188
two more weeks, sister
her fall is inevitable after that

>>64110079
Kronii's still fucking around doing her own thing
Mori is bending the knee hard after her clique imploded and she lost the EN civil war to Gura.

>>64110265
Bijou not making this list is physically painful for me. She gives pebbles so much and they give her nothing.

>>64116745
>>64116751
beggar seethe

>>64139478
>she lost the EN civil war to Gura.
Ah yes, Which is why Gura is heavily streaming right now.

>>64110630
>baby faggots who clap and giggle at the shitpuppers
>winning

>>64110265
BAU BAU

>>64139478
>the EN civil war

>>64115568
>they have to split the money though
Nope, they share everything. Watch streams.

>>64117316
Ruffians are basically all working ojisans who REALLY love their oshis

>>64110265
Cornering the ojisan market was a good move

>>64139722
Zoomers step it up and give your oshi some superchats

>>64141438
More specifically, the gachikoi ojisan market. It's surprising just how many oshiless rich ojisans were out there.

>>64110265
Considering they have to split their earnings in half, most of the girls are doing better than them.

>>64112336
So like this tweet says?
>>64123871

>>64123871
>I listened to it fifty times

>>64139478
To who?

>>64142080
Anon first of all they share everything and live in the same place saving them a shitload of money.
Second of all, how is that relevant? Mori and Kronii used to top the list. Now they're not even on it. They've "improved" because their income took a giant nosedive.

>>64110265
It's good to see Ririka so high. She's been great

>>64142440
Mori doesn't need Superchats anymore, idiot. Most of Mori's revenue are EP sales and Merch.

>>64142597
>Her ccv and sc income are in the shitter but the numbers nobody has access to are waaay up, trust me my dad is yagoo

>>64142080
>Considering they have to split their earnings
Nope. They confirmed that they share a bank account. Watch streams.

>>64139478
>Mori and her closer friends (Kiara, Bura) are the more active ones in Myth, both gura and Ame on extended breaks and burned out/struggling with management
>out of Promise, the most active ones are Bae and IRyS, who're close to Mori, Kronii got even closer to her after the SQUAD broke up, rest of SNOT going on extended breaks
>Advent basically bends over backwards to her
she really has Italian blood in her veins, she knows how to lose wars and end up better off than the winner

>>64142440
>Mori and Kronii used to top the list. Now they're not even on it.
Mori STILL tops the list, anonchama
/#/ autists went over it, Mori is up there for the year along with Fauna, while pushing more limited merch than her in a shorter timeframe, while having a separate merch shop just for herself

>>64142776
Wonder how long it will take until she pulls a "shenanigans" on Advent members and they act like she doesn't exist outside of shill collabs and concerts like Gura and Ame. She's lucky Kiara forgave her. She herself admitted she mistreated Kiara.

>>64143010
>ignore the chart in this thread showing sc income from last month

>>64143221
and I'm talking about the yearly income
people were going over Mori crashing and burning every time she had a dip but she at worst ends up as Top 3 EN in income for every year of her activity, showing why looking at shit short term is retarded

>>64143010
>/#/ autists went over it
I don't even disagree with you, but I would literally never trust those retards with anything. They purposefully misinterpret shit all the time to suit their narratives.

>>64143342
Mori's downfall started when advent debuted. Her simps fucked off to advent. Just look at sports festival. Lowest ccv in hololive. Any overlap kills her. She won't recover.

This is like Midnight's Edge predicting Star Trek's DOOM for the 246279134567982435697th time.

>>64143221
>last month
>the month she took mostly off solo streaming
>she also doesn't read collab SC so people don't SC during those
Yes and? If she charted during that month I'd be worried about the rest of the company.

>>64143408
I mean actual autists, the ones that show their methodologies, the scripts they used or that shown the exploits in Cover's merch pages
I honestly don't get why people have to cope that hard with the earnings, just stick to the viewership situation at least since for the most part Mori/Kronii's viewership had been below average for most of the year, there's no real contesting that
but there's that... idk, desire for them to be materially punished, which is dumb, they're in the earning bracket where even losing like half becomes something you don't really feel aside from long term investments, because your bottom line spending is completely covered

>>64143555
>simps
>muh CCV
this circular argument is really funny. CCV doesn't matter because a view is a view, regardless of when it happened.

>>64143645
Like I said, I literally don't disagree with you about Mori. She's probably one of the few in HoloEN who gets a majority of her income through her non-streaming ventures. I'll just never trust that place because all of them have an autistic agenda. I've seen them purposefully misinterpret Covers financials many times in the past for dumbfuck reasons.

>>64143632
yeah, people don't really SC her during collabs, but another thing is happening now, compare the Fubuki frame and hers real quick
neglible difference in SC, but then you look at the memberships

>>64143632
>Spams collabs
>More collabs with advent than the rest of hololive combined
>median ccv lower than Kiara's
RUMAO

>>64143687
This, CCV only fags can't fantom that a view (in their case a live view) doesn't translate to a fan like a sub, membership or music sales do.

>>64143893
Nothing wrong with collabs.

>>64143893
How can we believe that you're not one person, when the bullshit you spout is the same thing from 3 years ago?

The exact sales numbers will get posted any day. Meanwhile Mori vs overlap.

>>64112336
I feel like this is all bullshit, since I cannot correlate so-called breakdown and self sabotaging to actual events.

>>64144032
So?

>>64144107
He is a schizo who is mind broken by pink women.
https://archive.palanq.win/vt/search/image/BxcBPGeq_98cZ816tEpuyg/

>>64144156
I seriously still think this is a woman who unironically thinks Mori stole her spot from Holomyth and hasn't recovered since.

>>64143948
it's always the same person.
>>64144156

>>64144215
There are vtweeters who are still mad at her for OWTH, wouldn't be surprised

>>64142080
Watch streams, they share the same bank account.

>>64144156
>Deadbeats false flagging
I'm sure everyone shitting on her on twitter, youtube and tiktok are one person too

>>64143801
Dunno why people switched to sending her gifted instead. The dude still doesn't have a point since her SCs for the year are still up high up on the list and cherry picking the one month she did barely any solo streaming won't change that.

>>64124213
Idols have nothing to do with you openly being a cuck

>>64144498
plaping your modem to make it show a new IP doesn't change your typing style mr.schizo.

>>64139478
>she lost the EN civil war to Gura.
pretty sure they made a song dedicated to this forced faggotry
what was it called again...
Z?

>>64142716
>>64144413
this is such a weird argument, the only difference it makes is not getting double yt/Cover/govt taxed, but you still have two people living of the same income (and in the latter case it might be worse since if split they might've classified for a lower tax bracket)

>>64139722
she really is EN Miko

>>64144683
He can have his delusions, but Gura winning is a hilarious cope.

What this guy is describing is a lot like Kamille Winning against Scirocco.

>>64144688
No it isn't. They not only share a bank account, but they share EVERYTHING. All subscriptions are for both of them. All food they buy is split between the two(poorfag mentality). All merch they buy is for both of them. All games are shared. All accounts are shared. They literally share a ROOM in a shitty apartment. These girls are practically married. Actually, what they have is probably beyond marriage.
This "le divide by two" retardation is conjured up by jealous retards who hate that they make so much money.

>>64144904
"New Thread" because the coward is doing a temper tantrum.

>>64145016
Why do you act like you have autism?

>>64145016
the tax thing should hold regardless since I think there's no problem in including a family member in the statement if you either share or are the sole source of their income, so you can count that bit out, but other than that there are physical realities of being two people compared to one that your emotional description won't overcome
it's two people to feed, two people to dress themselves, two travel tickets require when going to/from Japan, two 3D suits/tracker sets if they want to do 3D stuff at home etc.
rent and merch go a long way but they're not all the expenses they go through.

>>64145896
> two travel tickets require when going to/from Japan, two 3D suits/tracker sets if they want to do 3D stuff at home etc.
These are the only real valid points, but this still does not take away from the fact that they are exceptionally high earners and some of the highest earners at the moment. The "divide by two" nonsense is always cope from jealous retards.

>>64146281
the argument, at a baseline, makes perfect sense
they're not as individually wealthy as a holomen that earns more than a half of their income because they will both have less basic, unavoidable expenses, they also can spend it all on themselves - which I assume neither Fuwawa nor Mococo would do with their shared account, as it'd be an extremely dick move towards the others
it won't realistically affect them since they most likely live within their means and have more money than ideas to spend it on aside from big shared projects
it's not a dig at them, just autistic people trying to be correct, which is to be expected

>>64139722
>panders to zoomers and genA
>they are all still going to school and none of them owns a credit card
>doesn´t get much superchat money

gee, i wonder why

Kiara panders to 90s otakus who are in their 30s/40s, are lonely but got a job and stable income
that´s how she manages to be one of the highest earners while having one of the lowest views

>know your audience

Muhammad iqbal its been 3 years...
your Philippines ancestor will be sad looking through at this thread ..

>>64147675
Anon, The Philippines is majority Catholic. Where did you get the idea that they're muslims?

>>64110265
>Raden #2
wtf? She is popular?

>>64148188
Zatsu focused streamers tend to get decent SC because there's a lot of focus on audience interaction and people want to stand out
that's why Mori had such a ridiculous head start in EN, due to her circumstances she was like 80% zatsu focused

>>64148400
Shit literal virtual hostesses

>>64109174
lol

>>64122751
The only acceptable chuubas

>>64151982
Nice end of page 10 necrobump bro.

>>64112336
>>64112336
>would start drinking heavily in order to stream
When has Mori been actually so drunk that you could say she drank "heavily" on stream? I remember the Scarface watchalong, and I think that's it, but I don't watch Mori much.

>>64109174
FBK and Marin ended up carrying the rest. Easy mode too safe to make it exciting

>>64157866
I'm pretty sure Suisei had the top score.

>>64158046
Suisei and Mori had most kills, with like 30 kill diff at end of chapter
Fubuki told everyone where to go since she was the only one that played before
Senchou mostly was the damsel in distress

>>64158311
Yep, Marine was the "gasoline princess" though kek.

so... how was the collab

>>64158826
fun, they finished a chapter on Easy just in time for Shion's concert
Suzy was trying to show off her eigo since Mori was around, Fubuki and Marine were funny as usual and Mori got herself in dumbass situational comedy (like accidentally jumping from a window 10 minutes into the run since she didn't have a grasp on controls yet)

>>64109449
more zealous is the convert, anon

>>64159138
Subaru is another good example

>>64117444
bullshit, nobody outside this cesspool gives a fuck or even remembers that

>>64146956
>while having one of the lowest views
You're just wrong.

>>64142716
bros.... is being twins the way to win at life? they are unironically going to be with each other until death

>>64123871
Explain the logic behind joining a virtual idol company if you don't like idols

>>64124174
>Being in hololive still give you numbers even if you're a shitty streamer.
Blue dorito buff

>>64162169
i wonder how many of those are from her pre-UMG songs

>>64162169
>Mori's channel is "excuse me RIP" and q.
Wonder how long that will last.

>>64164564
Anon, you're really out-of-date. Also, It's not really a "win" if you point out that 1 or 2 songs literally is equivalent to another's whole viewcount.

>>64165061
i would be surprised if she only has 1 or 2 songs with big viewcounts

>>64165267
Which is not the case at all. EoaL is already @ 16M.

Also consider that her Spotify Plays are also factoring in.

>>64165640
does this image >>64162169 count spotify views or is it just youtube views?

>>64165921
It's just Youtube.

>>64112336
nice writeup

>>64115419
Anyone who watches knows the rollercoaster and how obviously uncomfortable she was with the persona until semi-recently

>>64109174
>calli realises being le epic slay queen girlboss to own le haters doesn't actually make her happy
>realises her happiness as a streamer and idol comes from being an effeminate woman for her viewers
>this is somehow a bad thing

>>64139722
What do you expect from ex-chumbuds? They didn't give gura anything either.

>>64109174
WITH MY JAP FRIENDS!

>>64162169

jesus christ the dogs are absolutely mogging everyone else besides gura who they are just beating. I fear what they will become

>>64110265
>Aqua earning that high after all these years
I guess trading out her gamer fanbase for her idol fanbase paid off huge in the long run

>>64112336
i chatGPT'd it because i have a short attention span.

The passage discusses the evolution of a female content creator, specifically Mori, who went through different phases in her content creation journey. She initially immersed herself in alternative culture, moved to Japan, struggled to break into the culture she admired, and later found unexpected success in Hololive. The newfound fame led to challenges in her personal and professional life, causing her to reassess her values and relationships. Ultimately, she and another creator, Kronii, realized the importance of fans who supported them through difficulties and decided to prioritize those connections, expressing gratitude by creating content for those dedicated fans. The summary emphasizes their journey of self-discovery and the significance of fan relationships in their lives.

>>64163358
the first exposure i had with idols was akb48, i thought it was weird, they cant be girls like this that would dance cutely and shout i love you like its nothing. then i started following and getting into them, and looked up idols as a whole. i realized its a lot deeper and none of it was "fake".

>>64177417
thank you anon

>>64109449
Being corrected(raped) by Suisei does that to people

>>64174789
Aqua was always very idolish she just became lazy

>>64163358
Big paycheck from a relatively low effort job
90% of hololive would be 3view nobodies if it wasn't for the corpo backing.

>>64110265
>A woman who streams the food she eats and make
>Looks like this
>She's 3rd most sueprchatted

>>64139968
>>64142231
>>64144683
Play smart, not hard deadbeats

>>64180507

>>64110265
Good thing superchats are the only income that the talents have. This is a very meaningful chart, thank you!

>>64112336
t. thread reader

>>64139478
>lost the EN civil war to Gura
I absolutely dare you to explain what this means in a way that isn't laughably retarded.

>>64109174
>Idol work
>doesn’t behave like an idol
Huh?

>>64144683
That song was made before shenanigans.

>>64183294
Shenanigans like the made up gang rape at Mori's """rager""" or shenanigans like Gura not streaming because she hates her fans and herself?

>>64110265
why is korone so low i thought she was popular

>>64180507
wtf even is that. A failed taco?

Can she sing the song tho

Moris redeemed herself in my eyes

>>64109174
who? i only see 2 idols in that group
god the leeching is so tiresome