/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

Suisei is a literal princess IRL.

Mumei with Marine and ShishiLamy? Interesting.

Or they just know how to make a show and what people want to see

no shit its not suiseis personal stuff. its a sort of official project many holomems join. they are practicing for it.

>>64013527
Kiara only looks like a Stacy compared to ENs. Suisei is a literal Stacy, only out-Stacied by Mito. No one gives a fuck about the orange bitch.

>>64013677
She's going to mog them hard.

>>64013527
I’m cool with it considering there’s far less chemistry in the random ass pairings before the countdown

>>64013696
>only out-Stacied by Mito
You now remember that the first time these two ran into each other at an event Mito decided to tell Suisei about a really interesting shit she saw in the womens bathroom

It's nice that they're really mixing up groups this year. Looks like the only full JP groups are after the clock strikes midnight. No homos as well this time. Great improvement over all.

She has closed every major show for Hololive this year. She's literally their Ace at this point. Get ready for her to close the 5th Fes as well.

Concerts always save the popular thing for last. Like, a Lynard Skynard concert wouldn't open with Free Bird. They would save that shit for the very last song.

>>64013728
Nah, Marine knows how to sing Otona Blue well.

>>64013527
>kickback with kanata polka and reine
Cant wait to see kanata and pol try to outscreech each other while reine gets mogged by both

>>64013695
Suisei was literally the creator of the project. This is her baby. Wtf are you even talking about?

>>64013883
>kino marine cover
>flop towa cover because ID girls ruined it

>>64013527
Honestly being an NA GOD is pretty great for the NY stuff. You wake up and get the kino that happened for JP new years and then get to spend your actual NYs with your oshi.

>>64013527
>watame, mori, bae
Cool and k-kakkoi JP-santachis will love this

>>64013901
the management gets involved with it. you dont know shit about jp.

>>64013527
>Was Kiara right all along about JP talent favoritism?
Only when the talent has a talent.

>>64013883
Mumei will do it better.

>>64013527
>JP talent favoritism
No, it's Suisei being the most competent holo in communication and staff management. Even the jp holos who don't know how to do this get their projects rejected.
She basically pushed another 3D stream of hoshimatic that got rejected by knowing what staff members to push and nag.
https://youtu.be/-YF04z-RDGg?si=PgPSy7q74AUmUrwV

>>64014055
Suisei said she pushed it as an official holo thing because she was told it has a hogher chance of giving her a studio timeslot.

>>64013677
>>64013728
>>64013883
>>64014085
Knowing Otona blue, it’ll probably just be one of the girls soloing 75% of the time and the rest doing the chorus

>>64013527
This is the last hurrah for the JP side, let them have it. Coming next year, EN will surpass JP.

>>64013527
>aqua, peko and gura opener
kino
>but also iofi
okay..

>>64013527
idk, Maybe kiara should bring same amount of money as suzy first before complaining

>>64013527
It's hard to provide sexual favors if you're not in Japan.

>>64013572
Lost heir of the Romanovs...

>>64014187
>Not wanting to see the alien shortstack with great ass
How can someone amount to such levels of homosexuality?

>>64014187
No chuuba left behind in Hololive.

>>64014256
>great ass
>weird face and kinda boring

>>64014181
This. JP can't even get a JP only concert.

>>64014135
this project is obviously too big as a personal content. it cant be achieved without the management and she cant gather this many holomems without legit schedules. especially subaru wouldnt join without it.

>>64014100
Turns out Cover is just like any other sluggish corporation and it's all about office networking.

>>64014196
Look at SC earnings you dumb fucking retard

>>64013527
If only EN had any talent at all...

>>64014431
The amount of seethe emanating from this post. Relax sister, it's going to be ok

>>64014498
Based hooman

>>64014498
You're the retard trying to act like Kiara doesn't generate lots of money. Kys

>>64014431
How is Kiara doing on revenue sources that don’t get a huge cut taken from YT?

>>64013679
/thread

>>64014414
Of course she has management planning helping her but she has the directive authority.
She handpicked the songs and members herself and told them what kind of streams she wants. She even went over the management limit of 8 members they gave her.

>>64014673
This. It’s not like she signed away ownership to management and lost the rights to the name or anything.

>>64014481
Ah yes. Because most of these middle-aged mediocre japanese women totally have talent? Fuck off with that bullshit

>>64014187
>rigged solo concert the fuckin rabbit nigger
>kino
what

>>64014632
The fuck you mean? This is my second post on this thread. The first being a response to your dilating ass

>>64014649
Calm your tits KFP. No one said she makes no money. She just doesn't make as much as Suzy who is on top with a significant power gap.

>>64014673
do you know jack shit about jp? fubuki was always doing many projects with the management.

>>64013527
I can’t read JP, are there any holostars included? They had a surprise appearance last time

>>64014734
This thread was about one that does, but take your pick from the rest of them with a pre-countdown time slot

The retardFP is as much of a KFP as this poster >>64014498 is a hooman.

>>64014481
They have more talent than JP

>>64013818
in that case they should have asked for marine to make the final songs, either that or pekora

>>64013766
I bet it was either Mito's or Okayu's.

>>64014761
I’m not the KFP and I’m agreeing with you but I’ll chalk it up to misfire. I was just saying superchats aren’t the end-all-be-all of how important someone is in a company

>>64014793
If they're going to be a surprise again then obviously we wouldn't know right now. And if they were already announced then the catalog would've already been a shitshow by now.

>>64014761
anon i think he was on your side.

>>64014100
Imagine beign such a seasoned whore you know exactly who's dick to suck in order to get your shit shilled.
Sasuga Suisei.

Ya know, I’m starting to think we fell for holo vs holo falseflag deflection fuckery

>>64014907
It was Mito.

>>64014181
didn't yagoo say in a recent interview that JP makes 70% of their audience? htw is that gonna change in a year? expecially since JP gets all the tech and management support.

>>64014940
>suisei gets shit done
>"s-s-she MUST be sucking dicks!! there's no other way!!!"
why do these people want this headcanon to be real so badly?

>>64014940
Just her icy stare is enough to turn those management guys into jelly so keep your sick fantasies to yourself.

>>64013527
It's... a Japanese company?

>>64014988
Kiara will be at Eurovision

>>64014991
It’s the seething fake KFP from earlier obv

>>64014903
Sorry to tell you this, but Marine makes memes. She's not an actual music artist and doesn't see herself as one. She has no business closing out a music show.

So why are "KFP" taking it out on Suisei and not on, you know, management?

>>64015094
Because like I said earlier, we fell for classic holo v holo falseflag fuckery. Just not sure what it’s deflecting from at the moment

>>64015134
>we
Don't include me, retard.

>>64014983
Nah this is just another case of ENshitters having to accept their place in the heirechy. Even when Gura was at her peak the JP branch was still #1.

There is a list on english?

Its pretty sinple if you want more shots you need to move to japan

This was a Kiara bait thread from the start. Don't even try to deny it.

>>64015033
And she will win.

>>64014764
Stop pretending you know what you're talking about and just watch her stream where she talks about the project.
She is the driving force in the project and has the creative direction, she just has management oversight and event planning helping her.

Don't really give a shit.
Also, it's after the shuffle medley, so you can skip it if you don't care.
A lot of meme songs though, do we really need them after getting 1000 different covers already. I mean, Polka gets Kickback, Marine gets Otona Blue, Miko gets Kyoufuu All Back,... Boring as fuck.
At least some pairings are interesting. Choco, Luna, Fauna, Kronii will be peak SOUL.

>>64013527
>a JP vanity project ends a JP event
It's literally on their new year you fucking drooling retard

It's so funny how you idiots resort to saying these are just fake KFP fans when Kiara is literally responsible for starting this argument in the first place. She went to a public platform and blamed Cover for EN branch mismanagement. And now a project that Suisei announced only 2 months ago gets to close the final show of the year. It's not that hard to see what's going on here.

>>64013883
Marine butchered Otona Blue

>>64014793
>>64014920
Retarded EOP who can't even read talent names, there was no surprise last year. The setlist and shared songs were announced well in advance last year too.

>>64013527
Some absolutely bizarre combos, but I'm glad they abandoned the Homo shilling this year

>>64015440
Still better than Towa’s cover feat. ID shitters

>>64015488
IDs did it better than Marine though

>>64015440
Better than her Mayonaka no Door cover at least.

The only thing that cover did that really hurt EN was not releasing a gen in 2 years. thats insane

>>64015485
They're getting their own concert.
Continue to seethe

>>64015516
That’s about the biggest dang ol’ cope in this here thread ya hear me?

>>64015542
That one was horrible.

>>64014940
That's real rich, coming from a KFP.

>>64015262
Did I do good?

>>64015555
They got their own concert last year too, you fake fan. The problem was the bit in the middle of both concerts where they were broadcasting a crossover between the two.

>>64015485
Cinema was the best performance last year, though.

>>64015553
Covid slowed everything to a halt. There was a massive gap between JP gen 5 and 6 as well.

Reminder that this is a bait thread and Suisei and Kiara had minecraft sex for 5 hours talking about management while Anya watched

>>64015385
whats your point? a holomem or a holomem group working with the management is always a thing in jp. this is merely one of the cases. you are blowing it out of proportion just because this time its a 3d concert thing? and its related to kiara? what bout the sportsfest supported by the management? should the management hold some en sportfest for kiara? kiara and her sentiments arent even my argument and have nothing to do with the jp history i explained.

>>64015033
>Kiara will become the most popular EN
BASED

Here’s the Holostars list btw

(Yes they aren’t revealing who the girls are for the ??? spots till the last minute)

>>64014396
But they get 50+ concerts every year, where's Gura's sololive btw?

ITT: All yabs lead back to Kiara

>>64014988
By EN embracing the unicorn audience, while JP tries to get the normie audiences and loses both.

>>64015676
Yep. Friendly reminder that Suisei and the homos stole the show last year. Do you guys actually want a good show or just a hug box for your little princesses?

>>64015834
I would rather have homochads in my yearly countdown than EN plague in every single unit

>>64015777
I'm not OP and I don't know what you want to argue. I'm just saying Suisei made the project.

>>64015433
>And now a project that Suisei announced only 2 months ago
She's been trying to convince management since at least april.

>>64015553
HoloJP do big collabs at least ones a week that EN just can't do, and by big collabs by JP standards their medium sized collabs. Those medium sized collabs JP has all the time, EN doesn't have those. Regular gaming streams is not what keeps JP growing. This medium sized collabs is one of the things that keep JP alive. I really can't emphasize enough how much HoloJP relies on the fact that it has tons of members.

>>64013527
>favoritism
ID and JP show up to do 3D, EN either shows up or bitches about showing up
Yes Kiara lets fucking establish a fully staffed 3D station year round in Discount Germany for you to use once or twice a year
Dumb bitch, get your ass in the plane and lose some weight

>>64016179
this

>>64015848
They don't get a JP branch concert.

>>64016249
What's Blue Journey then?

>>64013527
Cover Corp always had the excuse that the HoloEN girls are too far away to give a lot of support to. When HolostarsEN came out, it proved to everyone that Cover Corp was perfectly capable of supporting HoloEN, at least now, but they just chose not to.

>>64015958
>Holos can't put on a good show if you can also see Homos
>Holos need to be protected so people don't see other competing performances undermining theirs
Nothing in your post is complimenting the girls you're supposedly supporting.

>>64016271
Blue Journey. It did not feature every JP member because it was not a JP branch concert.

HoloEN isn't allowed to be Hololive.

>>64013527
>the top Vtuber singer of the company vs the runt of her branch/gen
Is it really favouritism? And I ask this as someone who cares about neither of them

>>64016179
I'm not KFP and only threadreader regarding this subject but even I know that's literally not what she was asking for.

>>64016271
Bloom but bad.

>>64016150
en doesnt even have any tee-tee chemistry. just tell them get much closer to each other. its what they should do first. if they get it like micomet or smok or shiraken or anything like that and their fans love it and make a bunch of fan contents, the management will give attention to it

>>64016150
HoloJP survives the flaws of having quite a few dead-weight members by simply having so many more who pull their weight and more. ID gets around their small numbers by just acting like an indie company of freelancers and collabing with everyone but Hololive most of the time. But EN could solve their problem by just having everyone actually care or try to do collabs but when you have small numbers, nobody wants to collab and nobody cares about their own channels either, you get EN.

>>64016179
You would think people would actually try to understand what they keep bitching about but alas, we are stuck with people like you

>>64015834
This looks to be only a list for Holostars Gen1-3. I don't see Uproar there.

>>64016704
They're right there.

>>64016704
3 and 7-9 have them

>>64015555
We know retard, the issue is that they were apart of the girl’s concert as well as having their own, we don’t give a shit if they have their own show, if anything it’s funny when they have their own show because we can make fun of the massive difference in viewership

>>64015834
It’s probably gonna be tempiss idiots

>>64016653
EN's problem would be solved if a handful of JP members started speaking English. They wouldn't even have to be good at it.

>>64017134
>begs
God forbid you're a homobeggar too

>>64014423
>Turns out Cover is just like any other sluggish corporation and it's all about office networking.
Office politics are big with any company but Cover does favor JP talents, talents who are big on HoloPro unity, and talents that live in Japan. That means some Hololive members have a major disadvantage when asking management for time at the 3D studio.

>>64017262
>big on holopro unity
This is an absolute fact, they absolutely favor the girls who are willing to give homostars the time of day. I’ll bet money that bae being a fan of holostars was absolutely a factor in her being hired. She may have gotten in without it, but it definitely fucking helped and anyone who says otherwise is coping, it’s probably half of the reason she was meant to be the leader of council

>>64017380
Anon get the fuck off your homo pills.
What about Miko, Marine and Pekora?
The only one that applies to your description is Fubuki.

>>64015461
You say that as if a name would be easier to read in japanese, they’re all fucking moonrunes

>>64017477
And HoloX is absolutely management's favourite child, don't even try to talk around this.

>>64017477
>what about the three most popular and successful talents? Why are they shown favoritism

You’re retarded

>>64017250
The EN audience are bigger unicorns than the JP audience. If the JP members got closer to the EN audience, then they would become more unicorn friendly. Management keeps telling the JP members to expand their audience. It's either expand to the EN audience or expand to ecelebs, esports, and male collabs.

>>64017535
Yeah and their leader is a homococksleeve, what a plot twist

>>64017497
>easier
I didn't say this, I'm just saying you can't claim the homos were a surptise when they were literally announced weeks prior on the setlist, but you didn't know because you can't read.

>>64017585
>he thinks the "leader" in heir chuuni lore matters in any management decision.

>>64017547
The only people who think this don’t actually speak japanese at all

>>64017590
You said
>retarded EOP who can’t even read the talents names
Which implies that you think their names should be easier to read then everything else

>>64017621
No i’m saying the leader was chosen because she’s a homococksleeve, same with bae and probably shiori too until she did a 180… hell isn’t the leader of regloss the one that looks like a boy who tweeted at every single homo before debut?

>>64017683
Anon, I take it back. You're not an EOP, you don't even comprehend english.

>>64017755
That is a direct quote retard, that is exactly what you said

>>64017737
Regloss has no lead. Center is probably Kanade or Ririka

>>64017817
What part of
>you can't read their names
implies
>japanese is easier than english
?
I'm calling you retarded because you are claiming false facts based on you not being to read their names.

>>64017831
She’s the one in the front of all their promotional material, same with bae, not an *official leader* but they are definitely treated as the most important member in the marketing material, whether that means being close to the front of the picture, or being in the center of group shots, etc

>>64017642
Management keeps telling the JP members to expand their audience. It's either expand to the EN audience or expand to ecelebs, esports, and male collabs.

>>64017895
Because if i can’t speak japanese, then why tf would you specify that not being able to read their names is dumb? I can’t understand fucking any of it, it’s weird to specify that not being able to read their names is the part that makes it dumb, the fact that you specifically referred to the names implies that you thought I at least should have been capable of that

>>64017547
>>64017939
Is this a bot?

>>64013527
That explains how she was able to get more studio time. Can’t really do the same with an anniversary live.
>>64013677
Botan’s probably the one she’s interacted with the least, it will be nice to see them on stage together.
>>64014423
That’s basically how the Gura dakimakura got greenlit after Gura started talking to Marine.

>>64017939
Ok so management is pushing for it, that has nothing to do with the Jp audience, it has to do with their management, so you’re still retarded

>>64017535
no holox is pushed bc its underperforming despite it being gen 6 and the latest gen. they probably believed it would be one of the most popular gens by advertising it hard for the modern audience or something but turned out its the worst gen so they are now having to try hard more for the different reason.

>>64013527
People who oppose the EN girls being treated fairly are collab beggars. They want EN and JP isolated from each other. They want HoloEN closer to ENStars than to HoloJP, and vice versa. Gender should be a bigger barrier than language.

>>64014991
>he doesn’t want to self-insert as Producer-san getting sucked off by an idol
>especially someone as prideful as Suisei

>>64018012
Yes, I expect you to be at least able to read the vtubers names if you want to be respected while discussing them. That doesn't mean I think it's easier than the english names, it just means I expect you to be able to do it.

>>64018096
Not that Anon but fuck that sounds kinda hot.

>>64018122
Well then you’re probably autistic, why tf would I need to remember how to read their names in kanji? That is peak autism right there

>>64018122
Imagine this. A japanese hololive fan who doesn't even know how to read the names Gawr Gura or Ninomae Ina'nis unless you transliterated them to katakana. Would you respect their opinion when they talk about Hololive EN?

>>64016179
Realistically if Cover decided to focus on euro or NA for its EN branch then it'd be worth establishing a studio.
Hell go all in on the euros for EN and you could set up a studio in Ireland.

>>64018046
I never said that the JP audience wasn't a bunch of unicorns, I said that the EN audience were even bigger unicorns.

>>64017737
Shiori didn’t do a 180, retarded schizos twisted her words into what they wanted to her to say so they could shit on her for it.

>>64018199
>kanji
Vast majority of Holojp don't have kanji first names.
Can't believe you're actually defending your ignorance about absolute basics about holojp when you get called out for saying wrong facts.

>>64018096
But Suisei is the producer-san in this scenario. Is she sucking herself?

>>64017737
>shiori too until she did a 180…
Holy shit did these schizo retards actually trick themselves into believing she was going to do something she quite literally never said she was? Fucking catalog brainrot is downright embarrassing.

>>64018096
If it was for self insertion then that'd be based but you know these seaniggers are just using it to shit on her because they can't find anything tangible to insult her with so they just make shit up.

>>64018199
None of HoloJP has a name using only kanji though

>>64018579
Schizos who start seeing homos in literally everything even though they hate them are the most annoying shitposters. It was the same with Regloss, they had absolutely nothing to do with them but schizos kept circlejerking their hate fantasy of how they exist to prop up the homos with no factual correlation besides responding to them on twitter.
Homo brainrot deserves to be shamed, not even unicorns act this way.

>>64018840
several regloss girls do.

>>64018863
But they aren't countdown, also ReGLOSS is not even Hololive it's a sidebranch like EN or ID

>>64018919
oh i didn't read the context, i'm retarded.

>>64015398
Polka kickback is better than the original and her Odo with Marine is better than the original too, she has the perfect voice for high pitch screaming, and I don't even watch her, in fact Kanata is one of my oshis yet her kickback got absolutely mogged even though Kanata is easily top 3 holos when it comes to singing in high pitch

>>64018863
Regloss is an outlier in that they have regular mundane japanese names.

>>64015834
>Idol
I like Shogun and Astel but their cover of Idol is one of the worst renditions of the songs.
On the other hand, a cover of Dai Zero Kan with Oga and Ganma sounds good.

>>64015385
Any other member's events are like that to, retard, hoshyomis are just like chumbuds, only know about their queen and are fucking blind to everything

Ofcourse, Suisei is Cover's crown jewel.

>>64017547
I constantly see those posts and they're retarded, the average EN unicorn speaks out more than the average JP unicorn because of cultural differences and all that shit, but when the JP unicorn snaps you earn an anti for the rest of your life, at least for the rest of your career while the EN unicorn is just talk and forget about it after some months

>>64016293
>HolostarsEN
?????
Shinri complained a lot of the staff in the first months, Vesper hated going to Japan to do his idol reps. Only Axel got "support" for management because lives in a similar time zone of Tokyo, is bilingual (and not the JP jouzu of Mori and Cali) and seems to had the most proactive manager of all Cover corp.

>>64015958
Yet they gained what, 2k subscribers? Nobody gives a shit about your shit stain, and facts prove that, now go cope about it
Besides I play 5 instruments and have classical training, if I'm searching a good show I won't search that on vtubers, the best in this bubble is average or bad compared with true singer/musicians

>>64019290
>Mori and Cali
Kek, anon are you ok

>>64018122
I can even understand a 70 years old kansai old man, I just don't give a shit about the writing system and I'll never learn it, what's the point, read some shit light novels and see retards fighting on 5ch?

>>64019480
Sorry the name of the austrian broad slip of my mind.

>>64013527
am I blind or literally everyone is involved EXCEPT for my oshi Haachama? :(

>>64019451
My fucking sides. This has to be the funniest post I've read today.

>>64019545
You understand less than you think you do.

>>64014314
You're homosexual, we get it.

>>64014747
>seething this hard over the bunny getting a sololive
Yes, kino. He didn't stutter.

>>64019122
Aren't you insulting someone who's bitching *about* Suisei?

>>64019545
Based, reading is for nerds.

>>64013527
You stupid holoanti,
En and id get to perform with jp in a jp event. What favouritism?

>>64014431
Are you seriously saying that Cover generates their money through superchats? Are you really that fucking retarded?

>>64013527
Yes? That's nothing new and has been a thing since ID1 debuted.

>>64013527
of course she is, always has been

>>64013527
It would be easier for a HoloJP to have a 3D live, were they invite only EN/ID members as guest for every song, then it would be for a EN/ID member to have their own 3D live.

Kiara deserves less

>>64014181
FUCKING LOL
EOPs are so adorably delusional

>>64013527
Did you perhaps consider that
1) Cover is a Japanese company
2) Kiara can’t sing to save her life and doesn’t deserve to get any projects involving the studio?

i don't give a fuck about Kiara but the fact that Shitsei is always begting management for special treatment is very true
she wasn't even top 10 in the best performances at Holofes
most forced talentless homobeggar bitch in the company

>>64013527
Why does Suisei refuse to collab with EN outside of Mori?

>>64024611
maybe the other girls should be "begting management" for special treatment too?

>>64024794
Gura did, which is why she doesn’t need to stream anymore.

>>64013527
>Was Kiara right all along about JP talent favoritism?
>JP talent favoritism?
>From a JP company
Gosh I fucking wonder.

Kiara needs to double down on her strategy of complaining against management. Because if one thing always works, it's pretending like the superiors at the company you work for should bend over to appease you.

>>64013527
>Was Kiara right all along about JP talent favoritism?
Did Kiara really say such a thing?

>>64024946
I mean that's how companies should work. If I were a Frenchman at a French company and my bosses said they're going to start prioritizing the development of a tertiary branch in Uganda. I would be completely in the right to be furious at my employer, morally and righteously so.

>>64025155
You're agreeing with me then, that OP is retarded.

>>64025155
Exactly the main branch will always get preferential treatment cause they're the Heart of the company.
Just think of this doomsday scenario, holo Id and HoloEN fall apart it woud be a colossal fuck up and would terribly hurt Hololive but they have a small chance of getting back up.Now imagine if holoJp where to fall, hololive as a whole would be over they bring the most money and have the most populars members basically mini celebrety in japan.

I think they should throw Myth a bone and give them a 3d concert but aside from that The Jp receiving preferential treatment is to be expected
It still bother me that the starsJp get them too when they dont even pull their weight tho.

>>64026144
People seem to not understand that Cover just doesn't have the tech set up outside of Japan.

I went to the EN 3d live in LA: You people who got to see it online didn't see what hot garbage it was in person. It didn't even look remotely 3d to us, it was barely a projection. Japan has been doing this shit for decades with Miku, where as the US has what, the giant ball in Las Vegas? It's like trying to have a water polo match in the Sahara. Yeah it CAN be done, but you have to ship in EVERYTHING. Cover clearly doesn't believe that there's enough of a market to go balls out. And hell, even if there is an EN market, it's not in fucking Austria. Kiara is a fucking delusional bitch if she thinks Cover would pay for that shit in fucking Austria.

>>64013527
oh no, japanese Holomem are more successful in the important domestic market that is responsible for the majority of the profits

How dare Hololive focus on that instead of the super flop that is Kiaras shit ass album

Must be favoritism that Kiaras album is absolute dogshit!

>>64026797
Well luckily for you that isn't what she means but you'd know that if you actually read or listened

>>64027097
You're right, I can't fucking stand listening to her, so I get my information second hand. Regardless, what I HAVE heard from her has been retarded, so I can safely extrapolate that she's probably being a stupid bitch here too without even needing to know what the fuck she's actually whining about.

>>64015177
reminder that YWNBJ

>>64017930
This argument is literally the stupidest thing I've ever read in my life, and I've read it several times. Connect the World CLEARLY shows Fauna as the leader of Promise, while the argument for Bae as the leader is "uhhhh she's the center of some promotional art." You literally see Fauna and Kiara leading the group in Connect the World.

>>64019047
> her Odo with Marine is better than the original too
RORU
RUMAO EVEN

berylbros...

>>64017535
>HoloX is absolutely management's favourite child
They are definitely the most heavily marketed Hololive gen but even than it would have never happened with EN or ID. Cover only spent that amount of money because they were promoting a JP gen.

>>64013527
HoloJP failed as senpais.

>>64027680
Kickback might be discussed but her Odo is 10 times better, I literally can't hear the original anymore without comparing it with that better version, it turned a 6/10 song in a 9/10
Ado is a way better singer, in fact Polka isn't even top 15 on hololive and Ado clears Suisei easily, but there's something called synergy and sometimes a less qualified singer can bring up a way better interpretation of a song because it fits with them and their register more

>>64013901
suisei is the one who pushing these shit. imagine if she doesn't do that at all ? we will ended up with another old stuff like whqt we got at 2nd fes and 3rd fes with nothing new. i know your chicken is proactive about it but her numbers isn't that big for cover to notice her.

>>64027752
>JP gen
Even japs shit on cover for the blatantly shilling with holox, gen 3 is infinitely more successful and important yet I doubt they get half of the shills that holox gets

>>64013527
>putting your best performer last
>talent favoritism
Are you retarded or just stupid?

>>64028952
or you know, gen 3 is "tired" and want less exposures ? where were you when marine and pekora got like multiple shows in youtube channel. sankisei already big enough for cover to support the other talents. this is bound to happen when your talents is bigger than 2 soccer teams. expect next year will be regloss shill

>>64013527
Maybe if she stopped talking with her chickenn voice like Suisei did people would be able to actually enjoy her a bit

>>64013527
read this >>64028935
idk if you are a falseflagging as KFP but nonetheless, here's a fact. your oshi isn't as big as suizy, anon. . . but if you are a falseflagnigger. hope your mom dead in bed

>>64013527
You have to have talent to begin

>>64014100
Suisei is indeed management's favorite.
>was allowed to be in both day 1 and day 2 of HoloFes 4 to perform with two different groups while people like Mumei had to be separated from her friends
>only person to have a solo and a duet in the shuffle medley this year

>>64015834
First song is a Bochi song so zero of anyone from EN being a part of that (even Ina if she likes the show)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wSTbdqo-j74

Second is either Ouga/Risu or someone with Matsuri
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zCAaZWyn128

>>64029558
>mumei could've asked the management but she did not.
>the only person to have a solo
because she knows what she is doing and she clearly has talent for it. and has more fans than whatever your oshi is.

>>64029558
>while people like Mumei had to be separated from her friends
Mumei didn't know she could ask so she didn't even try. Suisei just tried her luck and it worked. I'm sure more holos will try their own luck this year if they can including Mumei.

This thread got REALLY ESL all of the sudden.

>>64013527
I like Kiara. KFP are fine. The KFP on this board? Literally the biggest, most retarded niggers I've met in my life.

>>64027031
I know you're just a shitposter. And I know people >here may not like Kiara's music. But claiming that her album flopped is the stupidiest shit.
Surely, it didnt reach Mori's or Suisei's levels (which is already impossible for 99.99% of all other VTubers), but beating Watame, who had a fucking Sololive, with another one coming, is still impressive on its own. And it was released later too.

>>64030038
>>64030114
Mumei asked, and was told it couldn’t be done because everything was already set in stone.

People here have deluded themselves into thinking Kiara's a runt when she's constantly top in views and superchats. I don't care about your meme CCV that gets raided and botted.

>>64024778
>refuse
Nobody had the balls to ask for a collab.

>>64034767
Closest one is Bae, she's even gone on a trip with startend and done an offcollab with Suisei and Marine after all.

>>64024778
Are you forgetting Miko

>>64033136
Watame's first album sold like shit based on its oricon numbers. That's not really a high bar.
>>64033256
Nice favoritism, Cover.

>>64028789
>Polka isn't even top 15 on hololive
she is top 10 easily

>>64037010
Sold "like shit" but its the album that allowed her to have a Sololive in the first place. If sales numbers are the important metric here, then... Do you see the problem now?

>>64013527
Suisei has favoritism even among JPs. She's a superstar.

>>64037010
>sold like shit
Vol 1 sold more than any of Mori's albums domestically on its first week. She didn't put vol 2 on shelves though.

>>64033323
>Gura streams 4 times a year since 2022
>Kiara almost daily
And yet, after 2 years of handicap she can even reach the total views of Gura.
The only thing noteworthy of this chart is the fact that after Council/Promise debut, HoloEN fell hard.

>>64039522
You already lost if you have to compare Kiara to Gura to win your argument.

>>64014100
>>64014423
>Suisei asks
>greenlit
>other jp holos asks
>gets rejected
This is textbook favoritism 101.

>>64013527
favoritism is just how losers make excuses for their own failings

>>64039522
>>64040314
>4 times a year
We're just making shit up now just to take a dump on Gura?

>>64013527
I fully support anything that makes Kiara seethe.