/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

>>63982509
Honestly how slow would most people's chat be if you banned everybody who just spammed emotes?

>emote spam
Grim.

>>63982509
>React content vs collab gaming
Do Holobros really?

I was watching Fallenshadow and Iron Mouse the other day idly across my monitors and realized the same thing, Fallenshadow has 1.4k viewers but Ironmouse has 6k, Fallenshadow's chat is 10 times faster, flying by. I don't know if Ironmouse just has a sleeper chat but it is very, very slow.

Ironmouse is one of the top-subbed females on twitch, how can that be "fake"?

>>63982509
are numbermonkes really this broken?

>>63982509
I remember years ago, when I was really into a particular game and I was regularly watching a flesh male playing it, and chat was moving at least 2x as fast as Henya's chat there. And that guy wasn't even the most popular person playing that game.
There's no way Mouse's chat moves that slow if she really has that many people watching her.

>>63982830
something something something millions vshojo invested. Don't try to reason with subhumans.

>>63982509
>>63982748
Follower-only chat retards. Keeps lurkers like you from putting your retarded comments like these online.

>>63982509
just give the site where IM embeds her twitch

>>63982748
She is literally a sleeper streamer so it makes sense

>>63982509
it's just what a majority tabbed out audience looks like

>>63982925
Fallenshadow is follower only as well.

>followers-only
Why no one is talking in mouse chat KEK

>3 days of seething
Ok what happened over at /#/?

>>63982925
Most other twitchchuubas have follower only on as well. Yet chuubas less than 1/4 her viewership have much faster chat

>>63983109
mouse keep beating the holoen and they can't allow it. Go ask to jp split they are very happy over there.

>>63982509
Ironmouse has embedded viewers

>>63983109
IM is mogging holoEN on ccv. queue smear campaign on a sick and dying girl.

Bruh I watch a 1-2K RE speedrunner with a faster chat than hers. Is her fan base socially stunted or something? Too shy to chat?

>>63983109
She's been streaming to Holo numbers lately which means she's bad because anyone outside of Holo is bad

>>63982509
So you're saying that her chat doesn't give enough shit about the stream to even spam emotes

>>63982925
>>63983030
So no one want to follow her, even her viewers?

>>63983172
We all know what the answer is but you already have Vshojo defenders deflecting anyone calling it out and labeling them as Holo fans.

>>63982509
they are botting her since she is the "flagship" in reality, she's not that entertaining. she can sing, but other than that she has no sense of humor and provides nothing, other than getting high and spamming how sick she is.

>>63982509
Ironmouse is one of the most botted vtubers ever.
And her cuck janny trannies delete anything even remotely negative about her.

>>63982714
>vshojo vs vshojo
are these holobros in the room with us right now?

Lives rent free in the head of you fags
love to see it

>only one guy pushes the ironmouse beating hololive shitpost
>the one guy
>>63982714
>>63982853
>>63983161
>>63983169
>>63983191
>>63983363
Another lie from the fans of liarmouse

>>63983409
Fans reflect the streamer, as they say

>>63983169
>sick and dying

Someone can explain how mouse got the most subscribed spot while booting viewers? I really dying to see the explanation. KEK
I know you guys love number so here goes
current she have 9k subscribers
The peak was 205,488

Reminder.

Are these holofags who are starting these threads? i lurk a lot watching her and the chat is not that slow.

>>63983409
lie? Should i search the archives for the seethe and rage you guys brought to catalog? It was quite fun to watch.

>>63982925
>>63983022
>>63983119
Could also be a non-mod chat delay on her side. I'm just giving possibilities at this point. I don't know if Vshojo streamers have fast/slow chats in general.

>>63983409
I've been in /vsj+/ for like 2 years now and I'll tell you right now I've never seen a single person there refer to Mouse as IM. It's always Mouse or Mousey or some other nickname she made up herself like Ratanas.

>Holofag this
>Vsjfag that
I see a lot of talking but no one is addressing the fact that her chat IS fucking dead lol.
>but muh ccv
Is high! Good for her, but why is he chat dead tho?

>>63983169
the only cure is a donothon once a month

>>63983433
i don't see any of the hologirls seething at IM, though? yet here you are holofags trying to put down a girl that only wants to stream and have fun to the best of her abilities.

>>63983447
you'd like that wouldn't you numberfaggot

>>63983646
it's the same subhuman who was camping in the other thread. My guess is that he spend the entire day doing this. Very pathetic existence.

>>63983564
Yes, it's pretty obvious Holofags can't accept that Ironmouse gets better numbers.

>>63983646
I suspect this is just one giant falseflagging campaign to incite a war between the two sides but I can't tell wtf is true

>>63983704
So you're calling her a liar?

>>63983694
we just don't talk when she is playing games? God knows i never say anything there, i hate her chat.

>>63983764
Sad if true considering Mouse is a huge Hololive fan herself

>>63983786
Post the clip where she said that

>>63983694
I watch her a lot and the chat is not that dead. Especially if she is talking to the chat. If it is collab, it can be slow since she doesnt pay attention to the chat. Also followers only slows it down more.

>>63983777
it's just one guys posting this thread. He keeps calling mouse IM. I never had seen anyone calling her IM until today. Man is so mindbroken he spend all his day here.

>>63983845
careful he's gonna sperg out if you ask for evidence

>>63982509
nice really weak bait

>>63983496
botted subscribers

>>63983890
AIEEEEEEEE HOLOBROS DONT LOOK

>>63982509
>those numbers
holobronies are afraid

>>63982509
From the description of peoples' discussion of it I would have thought it's just some nonsense cope but holy shit that is stark. That "10k" viewership has the level of like a 1k IF THAT, not even fucking joking in the slightest. More like Tabmouse. Even if somehow 9-9.5k people really-are there the idea 95% of her viewers don't actually-find her interesting enough to watch directly also speaks as to the caliber of her content. It's bad no matter how you slice it.

>>63983845
https://youtu.be/JzpezNRj3Xo?

>>63983993
doesn't say anything about dying

>>63983916
This is already the sixth fastest thread on the board

>>63984069
So she isn't sick?

>>63983890
seems normal. Especially if it is in slow mode chat. what's the point again? Do this guy know twitch?

>>63984072
the absolute state of this board

>>63984095
you can be sick and not be dying

>>63984072
the IM guys changed tactics now that he was called out. I wish i was a mod to see how many times he samefags

>>63984143
I wish the mods here actually cared about this place

>>63984100
>asking if pagpag eaters have enough data to watch twitch

>>63983993
>0 mention of any of the above quoted
KEK you couldn't even find her saying word death, is this the power of Holofaggots?

>>63984134
Despite all claims to the contrary imfags care an awful lot about her numbers and will respond to every post casting suspicions onto those numbers

>>63984072
one guy is spamming like crazy. it could be you

>>63984222
>one guy
See
>>63983409

>>63982509
VSHOJO VS VSHOJO

man that really doesnt roll off the tongue like holo vs holo does

>>63984095
do you start writing a will everytime you get the flu

>>63984196
mods caring about this place would mean all the niji threads made by holofags will get shut down. holofags wouldn't want that.

>>63984276
A flu that lasts for 3 years?

NijiEN > Mousey > HoloEN
Yawn
it's so boring when nijiEN get serious

>>63984288
it's funny you can see the time she boots qsmp and when she closes it. KEK

>>63984320
Oh they fucking try, go make a post with the leeching pomu image and see how fast it gets deleted
But the thing about 4chan is that one mod with an axe to grind cannot control the entire board

>"it's actually just one guy i swear"
>the entire rat cult appears
really helping their case

>>63983890
>>63984328
Same speed as Aia
HOLY FUCK
Nijibros... don't look

>>63984323
>moving goal posts
classic number monkey and for the record she's always been open about it being a life-long disease

>>63984328
>400 viewer stream has a faster chat than a 5k viewer stream
Imfags cannot explain this

>>63982509
>t-the /vt/ catalog is just retarded because of 4chan culture
kys

>holofags are really mindbroken on why some of the faggots on this board are defending a likable streamer

>>63984436
So she's dying?

>>63984328
lol are you serious? Mouse is in a collab and followers only chat. No wonder the chat is slow.

>>63984468
>>63983890

>>63984376
>>63984436
the fuck you are talking about? Are you okay?

>>63984407
>same speed
Twitch chat updates on vods every second, but it has a timestamp. You can pause at any point in the webm and see how many chat messages she's getting every second by simply counting. It is significantly faster than Aia's

>>63984505
Obligatory

IM gets like 2-3k on Youtube right? That'd about match up to her average.

IIRC Kaneko Lumi is like 1k+ on Twitch but is only 200s on Youtube, and no you cannot convince me 80% of her viewerbase is too retarded or anti-Youtube tribal to know to come to her YT stream instead. We see the carryover is usually at least 50%, usually more like 60-70% accurate if not way higher. So from even these very conservative observations Mouse is probably like 5k range absolute fucking tops and her chat is really more like 3view or low 4view otherwise.

>>63984505
also 5k, even i skipped that event to watch something else.

>>63984505
>follower and collab cope
>when follower is like sub in yt
just admit mousey lose to Empress
Since mousey > holoEN
AIA > holoEN
imagine face of EN chuba lose to aia

Guys I'm watching Sodapoppin right now with 15k viewers. His chat speed is slower than Aia's, is he botting?

>>63984577
KEK

>>63984505
>her followers doesn't interact with her

>>63984577
>>63983554

Are people just noticing this or did the vsj janny got finally canned? This has been known and talked about in other sides for years.

>>63984600
Yes
Duh

>>63983694
>but why is he chat dead tho?
Past couple months she's spent a significant amount of her streams on QSMP which nobody likes

We can see you samefagging you know

>>63984552
Strongest mousey stream barely quicker weakest aia stream (sub 500)
Aia will mog the shit out of mousey when aia do buff stream

>>63984600
no doubt about it. xqc bots too, he's just smart enough to get chat bots too.

>>63984497
if you really care for an answer
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d_OuKhUXkOU

>102 posts
>43 ips
Gee i wonder why this is

I hate ironmouse so god damn much, the fact that she's the defacto "face" of EN vtubing at least on Twitch is just retarded

>>63984650
sshhhhh... Let him do his revolution. Even # got tired of him.

>Be phasechad
>Can bait vshokek, nijikek, and holokek
feel good to be phaseChads

>>63984328
The way you can literally see YT batching comments in real time
What a garbage fucking chat

>>63984650
Ah yes the one guy excuse again, how droll

>>63984764

>>63984650
>me when i lie on the internet

>>63982509
>Apparently 10k viewers
Chat moves slower than a Homo's stream.

>>63984804
you know phaseChads can watch other chuba that is not pippa right?
pippa is a whore and any phasechads know it

>>63984799
go find a job bro. You waste all day here posting this baits that will change nothing.

>>63984756
that explains the meltdowns

>>63984764
Enjoying the gifts, Pippa?

>>63984797
Cope
Aia > Mousey is proven fact (including aia > holoEN)

>>63984867
Ah yes, all 10 non-Pippa Phasefags

>>63984878
it seems the jp split from # because they were tired of this bullshit all day. At least it was what some jp dude said last thread. KEK

user IDs need to be a thing on this board

>>63984934
Better than holoBots, vshoembed, nijibots
at least PhaseChads is pure viewer

>>63984966
i agree... We could filter comments from a certain area.

>>63984934
Tenma is better than Pippa anyway.

>>63984925
It's not cope, everyone knows that YT chat batches comments.
One of many reasons why YT's chat system is fucking trash

>>63984974

>>63982509
Why is it so easy to bait rata fans?Are they stupid or what?

the cope went from
>slow chat
>embeds
>bots
what's next?

you know this bitch watched xqc and forsen and thinks all chats are like that. KYS

>>63984867
This is the biggest joke post here

>>63984947
i dont watch vshojo but i hope mouse wins that game award just so the numberfag necks himself in rage

>>63982954
kek

>>63985046
yeah, i agree
mousey, holoEN, nijiEN really need to stop embeds or bot their stream like phaseconnect
fucking shameless

>>63985043
they are bored. It's late night in the civilized world and geega is playing WOW and Kson is play ARK

>>63984947
Numbers should just do a complete split. EN Youtube Numbers, Twitch Numbers and JP Youtube Numbers.
Because I find it funny that a thread about big numbers hates a vtuber with big numbers, either because she's on Twitch, or because she's from the wrong company.

>>63985046
In case of doubt, Twitch numbers in general don't matter.

>>63985119
It's because she's from the wrong company. They're more than happy to cheer when someone from the right company does good on Twitch.

>>63982509
> Having a slow twitch chat is grounds to completely hate someone now
I don't even know what mousey did to hurt some of you people. She's just so latina hag who makes dumb jokes, calm down

>>63982509
is this real

>>63984600
might be using embeds or muted tabs

>>63985079
there's no chance for her to win but it would be hilarious to see all the seethe again.

>>63985155
ask her to stop botting then we talk

>>63985119
>she's from the wrong company
they only seethe because of this. numberfags are holofags. they're the cancer of this board.

>>63985079
>>63985178
no one is interested in that prize

>>63984993
phasecucknet is just another 3view corp without your rabbit whore, know your place

>>63982590
people spam emotes because a chat is fast its a feedback loop. there's no point of typing something out that will never be read

>>63985186
2%

>>63985231
KEK ok

>Ironmouse and vshojo keeps getting shit on by the koreans
>Twitch kills Koreans
https://blog.twitch.tv/en/2023/12/05/an-update-on-twitch-in-korea/

>>63985204
This thread proves the opposite, you are the idiots who fall for bait.

>>63984468
Nobody calls her IM

>>63985231
seethe

>>63985295
It's true, for example, tell me who won last year without looking it up.

>>63985239
better than coma embedGods, and bots Fest

>>63982830
But she is not popular without leeching from Twitch streamers. In fact, her lest stream on youtube failed.

>>63984468
you're not gonna make "IM" happen in fact you're just making it obvious about how much you're samefagging, retard

>>63985336
lol stop crying

>>63985350
Ludwig. I know because Nibel should have won it.

>>63985350
it doesn't matter who won, what matters is that they indicated mouse to it this year

>>63985426
>lol
not mad at all

>>63985155
people are more annoyed that there could be a false pretext that she acts and treats herself like the queen of vtubing and everyone can't question it and must bow and kiss vshojo's ring to matter on that entire site. if she's actually a fraud and a numberfag who cares so much she cheats a shit ton, then no, she does not deserve any kudos at all and would be like that tryhard faggot kid using hax to win matches in a game and pretending he's not cheating. nobody likes those fags. IMO what's most telling is she is 2k range on youtube where you can't have 20 people doing 200 muted tabs every stream.

>>63985392
My dude wtf are you talking about? Got so mad that had a brain damage?

What are we going to call this general? Any suggestions?

>>63982509
>twitch culture
kek, vtubers have nothing to do with twitch culture, the prime twitch culture is forsen's community, and chat there flows much faster than anybody else's

>>63985507
/numberseethe/

>>63985431
>Ludwig
Who is that? He sounds familiar to me.
>>63985460
newfag

>>63985507
IMbed

>>63985480
She doesn't carry herself in that way whatsoever though. Don't give them more credit than they deserve. They hate her because she doesn't have a blue dorito next to her name, and her popularity rivals that of the blue dorito. Anything else is just trying to make themselves look not retarded for their distaste being based entirely in tribalism

>>63985480
>she acts and treats herself like the queen of vtubing
Anon, tell me you never watched anything about ironmouse without saying it. The projection is off the charts.

>>63985566
her chat doesn't rival blue dorito's though

>>63985507
/oneguy/

>>63985533
We already have two generals for that
>>63985561
Now this one has potential.

>>63985561
stop saying IM, it's retarded

>>63985559
He's the guy that took a contract worth millions of dollars to switch to Youtube, then switched right back to Twitch once his contract ended because Youtube sucks for streaming.

>>63985480
>she acts and treats herself like the queen of vtubing
She doesn't

>>63985507
>Snorlex Mouseembed Queen
for mouseyKEK
>Numberfag Crying
for Numbertard

>>63985507
/oneguyonedream#/

>>63985609
>The projection
Are you saying that Anon thinks she is the queen of vtubers?

>>63985649
exactly why it should be the general

>>63985561
you are the only retard in this board that uses IM. Makes it easy to see how many times you samefagged.

>>63985507
/holoseethe/ MOGGED Holofags General

>>63985505
I'm just saying she's like a dusty old clock.
The <25 crowd don't watch Twitch or even know what Twitch is.

>>63985678
yes, and probably a latent homossexual.

>three threads worth of seethe
>just because she streams

>>63985652
Unfortunately I don't know what you're talking about. Is he a white, blonde guy?

>>63985706
i used IM because i saw it on other threads. seethe about it. the fact that you faggots associated it with other anons only means your seethe is reaching critical levels. KEK

>>63985706
>everyone that uses IM is the same person
i guess you believe that dogs have their own instagram page too?

>>63985728
???? Are you underage?

>>63985769
>and because she mogs holoEN

>>63985783

>>63985769
falling to the bait is not a reason for pride.

I like Ironmouse, she is very cute and was super kind to my oshi's genmate during an interview before. I will now watch and sub to her because of this thread.

>>63985769
So THAT'S why these threads have been around so long. Because it's easy to have freetime when your streamers don't stream.

>>63985834
Hasn't she been doing that for a while
Why are they only exploding now

>>63985783
>>63985786
no one uses IM. Unless you are a numbermonkey, then that would make sense, i never visited that shithole.

>>63985769
they're gonna go after your oshi next henyabro be careful with their diseased rrats

>>63985880
Someone cherry picked some examples of her chat being slow and then they mental gymnastics an explanation that involves her cheating to be popular.

>>63985834
>>63985849
>>63985863
Are you really angry with the most basic bait in the history of this site? Are you redditors?

>>63985884
IM glad you never visited that shithole

>>63985880
no idea, maybe a numbertranny was pissed at the YT x Twitch numbers results
>>63985884
and yet this smear campaign on "IM" originated there

>deleted
So one guy was like 10% of this thread all by himself tirelessly trying to fight this and accusing everyone else of samefagging.

>checks other thread
What a surprise, he's a ton of that thread too.

>the vshojo shill got banned
>32 posts deleted
Oh nyos

>>63985971
I thought you didn't count Twitch numbers?

>>63985932
collaborations do not result in slow chat, I have never seen it happen.

>>63985880
for the big mainstream award nomination im guessing

>>63986000
>the detective was the criminal all along

>>63983409
I don't give a shit about iron lung or her coworkers but I also don't give a fuck about numbers that yagoo himself says aren't a measurement of success.
But what I can see is that 3 days ago mouse peaked at 13k, I can see from vrabi that Holo hasn't been much past 10k.

Coincidentally the past 3 days have been filled with seething. Makes ya think

>>63986034
Then pay more attention

>>63986071
kino

>>63986079
don't point out facts you're gonna set them off again

>>63986081
great argument, but it never happens.

>>63984497
As much as anyone else.

>>63986028
an anon is making yt x twitch tally for english chuubas. holofag numberfags don't like that. especially because twitch numbers mogs holoEN.

>>63986157

>>63986181
Is it just EN corpos?

>>63986079
She's easily gotten higher than Holos before several times, I think what's different is someone noticed her chat is incredibly slow for that CCV, people agreed and this seemed to induce a fit of rage from vshojofags who keep avoiding actually-addressing it directly while trying to paint anyone pointing it out as some kind of pointlessly butthurt shitter.

>>63986079
>I don't give a shit about iron lung or her coworkers
>I also don't give a fuck about numbers
>proceeds to defend it and talk about numbers

why do people still bother with twitch?

>>63986230
>>63983890

>>63982748
Vtubers corpos bot and that is cheap and easy to do on Twitch. That created an environment where botting has become rampant on Twitch since the average person likes big numbers.

>>63986079
>10k streamer has less interactions than 6k streamer from the same company, in the same platform

>>63986218
Thank you for admitting that I was right.

>new thread is up
they're so mindbroken

Looks like a chat delay

>>63986321
>>63986281

>>63986258
Yes, I'll point out that while the anon may have been a bit of a dumbass he was 100% correct that the bait started around the same time that she beat Holo and that /#/s is seething.
It's just once again evidence that the thread should be deleted since it's spergs can't fuckin stay in containment and just make pissy bait threads whenever someone gets higher numbers than a holo

>>63986336
will the iron cult fall for the bait this time, i wonder? or will it be just one guy using the letters "IM"?

>>63986331
Now say it without crying

why do mouse's bots stop working when she logs onto qsmp?

wtf happened to this thread with so many deleted posts?

>>63986336
stop falling for bait, moron.

>>63986402
Why are you ban evading?

>>63986402
nah, /vsj+/ is full of shippers, they won't get mad

>>63986418

>>63984974
KEK

reminder that this all started because she got terrible numbers on youtube and IM tards were completely mindbroken

>>63986435
nta but I think it's fucking funny if they keep making these threads. Keeps reminding everyone how retarded the #posters are and keeps broadcasting how much shit people are willing to make up when Mouse wins a numbers race.

>>63986462
I really don't understand what you're talking about, but stop feeding the troll.newfag

>still can't explain slow chat
>y-you're mindbroken
how do cdawgs sloppy seconds taste

>>63982509

>>63986537
stop crying, moron. three threads is nothing

>>63986552
>>63983890

>>63986552
like frosted pink starbursts

>>63982509
we all know she bots, this isn't anything new.

>>63983109
> 5 months of spam, seethe and botting from the twitchfag
a measured response

>>63986592
Is it? Why not make a fourth if you think that anon? Maybe a fifth and a sixth? If you go far enough # as a whole might be relegated to /trash/ and imagine the utopia this board would become if that happened. please keep making these threads. Make them several times a day. I would love it.

>>63986642
>mindbroken by the numbers thread

>>63983169
it's *cue you ESL mongoloid

>>63986673
Buddy I'm not the one making these threads. I'm just here to laugh at them

>>63986642
gura had four or five bait threads at the same time every day for two months and that is nothing compared to what we did before the creation of this board.

>>63986791
>2 months
More like 2 years

>>63983564
this only started after Niji lost 2 of their beloved livers to them

>>63986699
But you are the one writing revenge fantasies about the evil numbers thread and oh won't somebody rid me of this evil thread

>>63986699
You are the clown of these threads, moron. Stop falling for bait.

>>63986439
i wasn't banned, i just think it's funny how the person accusing others of samefagging is a samefag himself, so i'm continuing his legacy. >>63986000

>>63983890
Is this supposed to be a soundpost? I don't get it

Everyone forgot Gura can disappear without a word for two months and get twice the numbers of IM on a shill stream.

>>63986854
Keep telling yourself that anon. Whatever makes you feel good for producing this mountain of garbage we're both standing on. But I'd recommend finding a sense of humor. You'll be a more likable person if people know you for what you love, rather than what you hate.

>>63986565
Fixed that for clarification

>>63987092
>more creative writing

>>63987161
Just focus on the lines, little bro

What is the point of botting, it's just wasting money for imaginary numbers no one cares about

You guys all seethe over obvious bait too much. If there is a chuuba, an anon will eventually make some low effort bait about them to rile their fans up. So is the /vt/ way...
Just enjoy youroshi regardless of what's said /here/ and just have fun with the schizos

>>63987200
>imaginary numbers no one cares about
There's 2 dedicated threads for it. 3 if you count this one.

>>63987161
Find the time to enjoy the little things in life anon. Not every post is a secretly engineered post to try and trick you. I watch VShojo and like it and think these dumb threads are funny because they show the true desperation some people have towards hating something. That's not healthy, but it is kinda funny.

>>63987200
Either mouse is actually a big numberfag trying to force her clout via noombers (actually this is extremely common on twitch including the botting part) or Vshojo itself wants to prop her up as a fake star for their reputation. I mean she is probably the one singular member of it who would never leave so it makes sense they'd rally around her to appease her.

>>63982509
Ironmouse?
More like Ironbots

>>63987285
have fun with one guy, you mean

>>63986992
sometimes it feels like gura hates being popular

>>63987322
why does vshojo turn off the bots when she logs onto qsmp?

>>63987200
Ask >>63987192

>>63987322
Ah yes because I also know of streamers because they have high CCV.

>>63987356
>have fun with one guy,
gay

>>63987422
She does, that's why she hates her fans.

>>63985392
>failed
She got 3k with a guerilla stream on a different platform with an inactive channel.

so which is it, bots or embedding? you can't even make up your mind

>>63987593
its muted tabs

>>63986230
Holo numbermonkeys use the slow chat cope all the time.

give it to me straight. do you unironically chat with your oshi as if she's reads your uwu messages or do you just spam emotes like a beta pussy just like me

>>63987593
Why can't it be both?

>>63987650
Most times I do the second, but if he asks the chat for something I do the first.

>>63987650
I only chat when the streamer is actively looking at chat and talking to them

>>63923835
28 posts got deleted from the last thread BTW

>>63987647
What is the reason for the slow chat then?

>>63987814
Why were they eliminated?

>>63987835
>Be told it's because literally every example shown is from a collab and collabs = slower chat
>"nuh uh"
>Be shown examples of it moving at a normal speed for her size
>ignored
Anon it's very simple. They're retarded

>>63987835
Pretty much this, I guess >>63987798

>>63982509
For real tho, the disparity between her view count and chat speed is too huge to not raise a red flag. I can't think of any other streamer, vtuber or not who has this same issue who wasn't also exposed for botting.

>>63987891
I mean you have to be retarded to watch a dying cancer patient react to videos

>>63987835
See? Literally 2 posts above this mouthbreather >>63987946 is an explanation, and it gets ignored. They're all literally retarded.

>>63987580
>got 3k
true
>a guerilla stream
false
>inactive channel
false

>>63987891
>collabs = slower chat
That is not true
>Be shown examples of it moving at a normal speed for her size
That didn't happen either.

>>63982509
>>63982748
>>63982925
they're busy cuck jerking to connor

>>63987966
how many years has been dying for? 3-4??? this rat seems quite immortal

>>63988062
>that is not true
See: "nuh uh"
>that didn't happen either
See: "ignored" >>63983890

>>63987881
Probably the same guy sperging out here who got his posts mass deleted too

>>63988111
>See: "nuh uh"
but it's true, that never happens
>See: "ignored
That's pretty slow, I thought it was an example of their chat being slow.

>>63987946
if you actually want to be for real, mouse has the most heavily moderated chat probably out of any vtuber, her mods are schizos

a drama tuber is going to do a deep dive into mouse's chat activity over several weeks and see if she bots or not

>>63988224
>pretty slow
See: literally retarded >>63984552

If you actually enjoy watching your oshi, this is the only number that actually matters.

>>63988229
That makes sense, you are the only one who didn't fall into the bait.

>>63988273

>>63988262
You are quite aggressive, when I watch Twitch chat it is ten times faster than that.

>>63988273
Love the stream hours

>>63982509
>slow because of twitch culture
but twitch culture is spamming constantly like an annoying faggot to get attention....
everyone knows Vshojo numbers are inflated because their creator is a co-founder of twitch

Obviously botting but idgaf. I don't care enough about her to care that she bots.

>>63988314
>>63988273
>cope
Did you know that you could ignore the thread and not feed the troll?

>>63988374
nah that's just asmon, xqc, forsen, and holos. if the chat isn't all zoomzooms then it's pretty chill.

>>63988400
stop samefagging or you'll get banned again >>63986000

>>63988400
I think it's funny though. Because they know this is one metric they will never win in. And it's the one that matters most to viewers.

>>63988428
no... it really isnt unless you get no viewers

>>63988375
Nobody cares, this is a bait thread. The OP is not even simulating anything else.

>>63988461
it really is. watch better streamers.

>>63988433
>samefagging
The truth is I never did that, I don't even know what the point of that is.

My esport flesh oshi chat go into overdrive when there is a collab guest appearing though.

>>63988454
>Because they know this is one metric they will never win in
false

>>63986540
>>63988400
>>63988530
really?

>>63988574
Funny anon because I don't see any proof. And this one is easy to prove. It's pure raw data. Hard numbers. A simple statistic. No way to fake it.

>>63988538
that happens in all collaborations

>>63988601
yes

Man Mousey's absolute victory over holoEN has the monkeys rattled. That's what 5 bait threads today?

>>63988610
as you demonstrate with numbers "enjoy watching your oshi"?

>>63988614
except ironmouse, apparently

>>63988679
There were three baits in two days, that's nothing.

>>63988679
more interaction than her chat kek

>>63982509
>ctrl f
>holo 1/41
I guess we're always on your mind. We don't think of you at all.

>>63988691
It's a question of stream hours anon. And a very simple one to prove. This guy >>63988366 even posted VShojo's total streamed hours over the last 30 days. Doing some simple addition it's 917 hours and 48 minutes over the last 30 days.

>>63988538
>>63988614
this, collabs actually drive chat higher than normal basically for my entire experience with streamers in general. I don't believe anyone saying that as an excuse really-really-believes it.

>>63988614
No because in collabs the streamer doesn't interact with chat but with the collab partner. So posting in chat is mostly sending messages into the void.

>>63982509
Most engaging twitch vtuber stream

>>63988758
You have spent the last three years crying about us.

>Obvious bait thread
>297 replies and 77 posters
My niggas, please. This is fucking sad.

>>63988477
i do, on youtube, where the good streamers go

>>63988760
Are you seriously saying more hours of streaming is equivalent to better quality?

>>63988758

>>63988273
>one number, ignoring everything else
you're just as bad as the numbermonkeys you're responding to

>>63988760
>>63988911
Also, he did not compare his numbers with another agency, that is the most basic thing in this type of thread.

>>63988916
That image is funny, it's a shame you used it for a stupid >no u.

>>63988948
>A metric that Holofags can not even come close to competing in
>T-THIS NUMBER DOESN'T MATTER

>>63988948
In fact it's worse, he fell for the obvious bait and is a hypocrite.

>>63989021
you prove that the anon was right

Thread got real quiet when stream hours entered the picture.

>>63989021
you know what holos can compete in? chat interactions

>>63989187
Wow! I sure hope that the 1 hour my oshi streams a week is one I'll be around for so I can enjoy my chat impressions!

>>63989137
you can set up an AFK stream and get high stream hours, nobody cares because it's all from the chuuba's side and not reflective of audience size.

almost as if there isn't actually a legit explanation still. for you know, the slow chat, which is reflective on the audience directly.

>>63989137
Unlike you, people have to work or sleep, kid.

>>63989221
I sure hope my 5k viewers interact with me so i don't feel like i'm talking to a graveyard!

>>63989225
Damn. Too bad nobody was doing that over the last 30 days to invalidate or skew the numbers listed here >>63988366
>>63989232
Is this the newest cope? It's okay if my oshis don't stream because I have things to do? Everyone has shit to do anon. Get over yourself. Long hours are still better.

>>63989221
It's funny that you have to change the subject and go to the old bait thread gura trick.

>>63989300
I'm sorry that your oshi doesn't stream anon. It's okay. I mean I've never known what that's like, but I'm sure it's hard.

>>63989288
>Is this the newest cope?
No, people have to work and sleep.

>>63989288
why are you fucking talking dude. those aren't even answers. did you not hear me? anyone can get high stream hours. it's irrelevant to the true audience size which is what this entire thread is about. if you're reaching for "but big stream hours!" then it sounds like you have functionally admitted defeat completely actually and are looking for a "yes, but..." consolation prize.

>>63989333
You are hilarious, seriously. Your stupidity and immaturity brighten my day.

>>63989339

>>63989021
you're just proving my point.

>>63989394
We're talking about stream ENJOYMENT anon. Not popularity, ccv, or any of that shit that doesn't affect how enjoyable a stream is. What does affect that is hours. I wouldn't watch 3views if I cared exclusively about popularity.

>>63989451
that's true.quality>quantity.

>>63984196
lmao start whining when you learn the pain all the 2/3view enjoyers here have to experience, ironmouse is one of the few they even enter catalog bait threads for

>>63989611
If 2views gets bait posts that frequently hits bump limit like these, that's unironically free pr for them.

>>63983777
Yes that’s literally what it is same with the schizos spamming a select 3 holoen girls. It’s always been one

>>63984320
Hololive has like five bait threads every day, what are you talking about?

>>63984135
That’s literally false if you get sick you’re dying it’s why we’ve gained special immunities and medicines.

>>63989887
I think she's more like a handicapped person.

>>63989887
so if I have a cold I'm dying?

>>63989843
gura and wife threads don't count

>>63986172
Anon in the real world the average person ages gracefully until their 60s-70s unless they’re married

>>63986397 (schizo)
This is the guy doing the falseflag operation

>>63989954
fuck you,yes they count.

>>63986397
Nice try, you are the one botting holoen and nijien streams.

>>63986992
No just schizos shitting themselves

>>63987422
She’s always hated being the most popular one it weighs on her but she tries to work through her problems

Here's a reasonable explanation for the slow chat. Ironmouse probably share a huge part of her audience with other streamers (probably connor being the biggest) and the chatters would rather chat in their main streamers' chat while putting her on background. Happens to the 2 russian streamers i watched, they share a lot of the same chatters but chatters would only spam in one while chatting sporadically in the other.

>>63988229
She would need an army of mods and like half the dictionary as blocked words. Let’s say 50% of people talk which is a huge overestimation that’s 5k talking in her chat vs 200-1.4k in all the comparisons they showed impossible to only be slower but pretty much lapped

>>63989537
You wouldn’t be in this thread crying like a little bitch if all you cared about was enjoyment

>>63989948
Yes you retard do you think the common cold kills 0 people every year?

top is a stupid dyke I dont care >>63982509

>>63989954
Maybe not the wife one but why does gura not count?

>>63990425
so anyone with any illness is terminally ill according to you?

>>63990250
That also means she has no real fans and is being pumped up unnaturally by twitch.

>>63990526
Being a retard must be fun for you

>>63990591
answer the question

>>63990250
That makes sense, good argument. In the end everything bad that happens is always the fault of that moron Connor.

# fags still upset she's mogging 90& of holoEN lmfao

>>63982509
Tomorrow what topic do we have to put for the new bait thread? The one with the slow chat I don't think will work again.

Who is pushing this Vshojo vs Hololive shit? Doubt it's fans of either.

>>63991300
Vshojo fans hate hololive,newfag.

>>63989843
>five
More like 50

>>63991385
Not especially. VShojo fans mostly keep to themselves...whenever they're not laughing at NijiEN imploding. Holo is a bit too idol cringe shit for me, and the JP corpa rules seem annoying, but there's no hate there.
Also collabs with Holos are cool, even if not super common.

>>63988882
stop coping
your shitty SEA mobile internet probably just gives free bandwidth for youtube but not twitch

>>63991466
>VShojo fans mostly keep to themselves
kek

>>63991484
>your shitty SEA mobile internet probably just gives free bandwidth for youtube but not twitch
stop coping

>>63991556
damn poor AND stupid

im amazed IM fans keep eating bait

>>63991668
cope fag

>>63992122
>>63992122
>>63992122
Next thread

>>63992154
I told you not to do it again with the slow chat, the bait will not work.IM fans are not stupid enough to fall for the same trick twice.

>>63992270
Lol
Lmao

>>63990250
in other words like 80% of her "fans" don't actually care enough to watch her as the main feature channel vs the randos she has embedded herself with. aka they're connor fans there just to be polite because they know connor would want them to "support" her.

>>63990044
>>63990009
Yeah m8 it's totally fuckin me and not the shitty fucking thread that's been notorious for botting chuubas for years
Keep seething.

>>63984577
KEK

>>63990486
Nta but Gura is just a universal punching bag. She kinda deserves it. If you exclude the sponsors and anniversary events she's literally streamed 1 time in the past 3 months. It's been radio silent on her end outside of that

>>63992575
>She kinda deserves it.
You realize that she doesn't even visit this place, moron

>>63982509
Can /#/ stay in their containment.

>>63992734
Sure but it doesn't mean she's exempt from being made fun of for literally not streaming anymore outside of merch and sponsorships anymore. People made fun of ayame for the exact same thing.

>>63982509
So she is botting? At this point I wouldnt be surprised, but this bitch gets nominated for awards and shit

>>63992862
>People made fun of ayame for the exact same thing.
we always hate those "people",newfag.Plus five threads every day is unjustified.