/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

My wife

i WILL share a blanket with all the boys in this thread

your so cool
yuko, stay cool

wa wa wa

Gonna dream about playing hand drums on Yuyu's thighs tonight

I love my ghost busting wife.

I LOVE ROCA
And maybe Katta just a little

hello, pochi wanmaru is my wife. thank you.

I want to sniff Coni's feet

I may hate the fact that I drew yuko pissing in my mouth, but I hate the fact that I see OP images way more explicit than it stay up

>>63980383
*stay up even more

>>63980383
you dont understand
stickman pee is WAY more lewd than actual porn that many hololive threads use

pls rember that wen u feel scare or frigten never forget ttimes wen u feeled high

wen day is dark.. alway rember to blaze it..

https://youtu.be/vEXfKoXXFUo

Yuyu's ass for breakfast, lunch and dinner

any uhhh cunny enjoyers? here? maybe?

Coni peut être mon clown pour toujours, et je sourirai pour elle aussi longtemps.

A busy mind rests.
I wrote long, to share her pain.
Now, I hope, we sleep.

To the glory of lady Poko

>>63980706
Here? Nu uhhh
Better luck searching somewhere else oji san

I love Momo

Sweaty sex with Poko

>>63981173
You think she'll stream tonight?

>>63981310

I wonder what Yuko's thursday night stream is gunna be

>>63981310
the fuck
yesplease

why won't momo do more members only ASMR

lmao that arkanuki dude who got banned months ago from the discord just got banned again for recently rejoining and ban evading and basically just admitted hes a Yuko anti and a thread shitter because he got banned for being a shitter now and got nuked again after posting a 20 paragraph rant about how much he hates boo bros

average /vt/ shitter moment

>>63981650
Why won't Momo do more anything at all

>>63981650
new guidelines

>>63981715
screenshots?

>>63981715
>a 20 paragraph rant about how much he hates boo bros
impressive

Losing my name, nowhere to go
but i can't stop loving you

>>63981885
>>63981905

>>63981715
LMFAO.
Wonder if he's yukoschizo, seems like something deranged and unhinged enough he'd do

>>63981715
>>63982016
RUMAO

What should i learn for fufyu?
I have no art skills besides crappy writing.
Been thinking about music, but it seems to go REALLY deep and could take like years to make something even decent

>>63982046
nah hes just french and annoying as fuck, dude sent 5k messages in 3 days of joining the server
and the way he posts is just like one of the shitters here, sounds like one of the people shitting on Fuyo all day to me honestly

>>63982016
ohhh it's the retard who made the dox list? kek

>>63982016
>I don't care and you're obsessed and I will write a wall saying why
imagine lacking this much self awareness

>>63982016
kek holy shizo. what list is he talking about

>>63982169
he was basically making a list of everyone's "public" information with another guy and posted it publicly to the server

>>63982169
If I remember correctly, people mentioned someone making some schizo list of boobros that listed like... where they lived, any socials, time zones they live in, birthdays, etc. not really doxing but schizo as fuck

>>63981715
>a 20 paragraph rant about how much he hates boo bros
weak

>>63982249
>>63982227
That sounds like doxing to me, is this related to this wild shit?
>>63820941
>>63822021

Is yuko going to drain me on Thursday?

>>63982249
I always wondered if I was on the list. Maybe someone has noticed me...

>>63982016
i don't even recognize those names
discord drama sounds so irrelevant to the streams

>>63982336
nah this was months back. it was all information people shared about themselves previously or had listed places that anyone could see. it was just schizo as fuck to have it all gathered as a list in one place for whatever reason, and then post that list publicly.

>>63982402
it is but i know for a fact he shits this place up too

>>63982402
Discordfags don't watch streams.

>>63982402
that guy in particularly couldn't possibly get more irrelevant. He spent literal fucking hours discussing absolutely nothing all the time to the point that he almost got banned for that alone. he just wouldn't shut the fuck up about off-topic nonsense.

https://twitter.com/coni_confetti/status/1732257233583428000

>>63982402
a lot of people dont have the same youtube name
>>63982463
>discord fags dont watch streams
>win every single donothon and donate the most money and commission all the art
sure thing...

>>63982584
I've had my trepidations about her but she really does make me happy

>>63982584
It's cute when she has her girl moments

>>63982589
I hate discordfags but they definitely watch streams

>>63982095
>5k messages in 3 days
jesus christ....

>>63982584
I want to make her a mother and see how she beams when she rubs her pregnant belly

>>63980700
>the way it stretches out the tights to make them more translucent

>>63982095
>sounds like one of the people shitting on Fuyo all day
I have the sugar ready!! only subhuman trash like him would shit on fuyo so much.. these people are asking to get skinned alive!

I coomed so hard my stomach hurts.
How does that work

>>63982319
I might need to get my hands on this treatise. It could prove to be useful.

>>63982336
wtf is this?
is this why the random dude came here asking us what to do if someone is going to be doxxed the other day?

>>63982781
...what the fuck. I got curious as to how much of an exaggeration that was so used search to check. Not much of one. Joined on May 12th, and hit 5k messages in 10 days. I'm honestly impressed by that level of insanity. Checked a few other random names I know are discordfags but have been around for almost a full year, and most are still like 3-8k messages total in that time.

>>63983266
>he is finally cumming out his backup supply
im so proud of you

>>63982095
Funny how what triggered this meltdown was just a random post making fun of of the French.
Even funnier is seeing him rejoining again and getting instabanned.

>>63983266
you accidentally got some cum inside and you're preggers

>>63983470
>im just here to laugh at you all
>makes himself a lolcow
classic french moment

>>63982336
jesus those people are dangerous levels of deranged and need to be put down.
reads like kiwifarms users

Fuck i want to coom to yuko's feet and ass but maybe thursday is a lewd stream, what do i do?

>>63983470
not the first time an autistic frog embarrassed himself on discord and followed up by threadshitting on /vt/

>>63983266
Sounds like your abs did full-on convulsions.

>>63982350
I'm not sure, but it's outside her usual cum draining time so probably not ASMR

>>63981650
>momo
>doing things
pick one

>>63983577
Edge

>>63982838
this but mozzu and katta

>>63982584
she's definitely ovulating

I need more Yuko JOI

>>63983913
You wouldn't survive

>>63983266
probably tensed your tummy during orgasm

>>63983888
>time slot an hour before yukos
>ovulates a week before yuko
Really makes you think

>>63984371
By me

>>63984371
female carnies give birth to human babies?
who impregnated you?

_____

>>63984540
He's so handsome and mysterious! The strong and silent type

>>63984537
that's actually a male carnie

>>63984802
Male carnies give birth to human babies and females carnies give birth to carnie babies??

>>63983943
I that warm up stuff is anything to go by the spicy ASMR whenever it sees the light of day will kill a lot.

>>63984876
it's a complex life cycle, some call our methods unethical

>>63984371
>>63984540
congrats

Does Coni know about this carnie lore

>>63985001
she doesn't need to

goodbye brothers, it was a good run

>>63985099
purpose of a carnie is to get gordo and die

>>63985099
Is all I have to to to get her to make my balls explode miss a stream?

>>63984537
carnies are actually unicellular organisms that reproduce via mitosis

>>63985053
yes she does

>>63985262
no, the balls will be the only parts that remain

>>63985099
welp.. you had a good run anon

She may not be what you want, but she is what you need.

>>63985931
korean woman bad

>>63985931
No, fuck you. If her height don’t start with the number 4 I want nothing to do with her

>>63985099
The weak must be culled

This but Yuko.
https://files.catbox.moe/qqiv0d.jpg

>>63986112
I saw some art of preggo BA girls with the halo showing on their bellies. That shit gets me good.

>>63985931
no fuck you, if her ethnicity starts with a K then I want nothing to do with her

>>63985931
>She may not be what you want
i actually want that ass

You will regret your words when she achieves small eel form

>>63985931
I just wanna be loved, man

would coni think I'm cool if I got this tattooed on my back

>>63986291
You gotta rip off your shirt like in Yakuza if you do. Then yes

>>63986291
No but do it anyways so she can clipfarm

>>63986222
>Cunny eel
That changes things, no shit. She's still got male collabs under her belt, so it's not like she can compete against better lolis like Coni or Poko.

>>63986342
sex

I had a dream. A nurse in a hospital I was undercover in, as some sort of good guy amongst villains, invited me into a ward to bang me, and right when she was about to start blowing me she pulled out some instruments and started sounding me instead and being mean. It was awful but I persevered. Then before it got good again she stopped and people I know showed up to interrupt. Why can’t I just have a nice dream of loving cunny sex instead?

>>63986488
Deep within you're a massive masochist

Me now. I just can't take it anymore.

>>63986488
i think youre afraid of sex

>>63986595
Congrats on the autofellatio

>>63986589
>>63986604
Both of these are probably true, nice work. I remember now I did have a brief loli nakadashi dream last week, that was nice.

Momo makes it hard to love her

>>63986897
She definitely makes me hard when I love her iykwim

>>63986824
if you're having sex dreams you need to step up your prostate game.

>>63986291
Incredible

Please shit on my chest, Roca Rourin! I may be able to put off sleep, but I can never tame nor control my desire for this!

What have I done

>>63986353
sorry coni but you're gonna need to sweeten the deal

>>63987253
You good, fanfit?

>>63986342
Please, I don't care how disrespectful it is, some talented artbro please fix the feet so I can fully enjoy this

>>63987359 (me)
and while you're at it, make a better transition between her tail and her skin. You'll turn this photo from an 8.5/10 to a 100/10

Goodnight jewbros. Have a good rest of your day/night

>>63985931
>but she is what you need
what I need is CUNNY, and she certainly isn't that.

>>63986384
if she does cock crushing ASMR it'll balance out the male collabs for me

>>63986488
I haven't had a sex dream in a while, feels bad

>>63986384
Juna is too mean, if she was a loli she would be the ultimate brat rapebait

>>63984371
that baby is gonna be shreaded from all the sit ups its doing

>>63987253
idk but judging by 99% of the posts in this general when somebody says this it's probably something shit related to maros

>>63988089
All my sex dreams always have the girl refusing/being repulsed or having cartoonishly goofy ass reasons why my penis won't work. Like my penis deflating or it being tied in a knot. It's because I don't think I deserve sex or am attractive enough to be desired. The only time it works is when it's with someone I trust and who accepts me.

>>63988089
I've been waiting for my mind to dream about Katta since it was able to make me lick Korone's feet and even imagine her yelping reaction. Maybe I taking day naps would help since she's fresh on my mind at that point.

>>63988217
Nta but yeah that's the case for me. I sent some appropriate, but out of character maros to my oshi and those were the only ones she's never "liked". I have interpreted that as a message to stop. I am still supporting her exactly like before but I am taking a step back because I realized I'm getting in too deep and it's affecting my personal life.

>>63988290
lmfao, yeah sounds like you got some issues..
my sex dreams are usually me eating them out then just plapping

>>63987909
No, that's what you WANT. But I gotchu covered.

>>63988425
You lucky fuck. Sounds amazing

i will change Momo's pamper

>>63988453
holy rapebait
>>63988118 you were right

>>63988416
>but out of character
what do you mean by this? like you randomly sent some goatse pictures of yourself instead of the usual cum trib?

>>63988453
uoh

>>63988453
holy based, yes this is much better

>>63988453
I cannot consider cunna as my loving cunny wife but I would join my joobros to run a train on her until she broke

>>63988517
Nah. Nothing like that. Usually loving, romantic, or appreciative ones but then sent some more somber yet supportive ones during these hard times. Those she did not seem to like. It hurt me a lot so I decided I'm way too invested and should take a step back

>>63988467
Yeah I fuck hot girls in my dreams. I don't blame anybody for being jealous

>>63988701
at least you're sending maros, I've already run out of ways to express myself and I feel really bad about it

>>63988453
Greatly improved. She'd probably be the best loli too if it wasn't for her male collabs. Guess it makes her seem more rapable that way.

>>63988722
I sure hope you learned to lucid dream.
I've been in a long term relationship with my little pink shitposter for years in my dreams.
We are so happy and not sad!

i've had dreams of baby vtubers and having them happily calling me mommy as i wake up.

>>63988818
I've been interested in lucid dreams for over a decade but I've never done it. I wish I could be not sad like you

>>63988701
yeah you might have come off as a little schizo depending on how you worded that.
>I'm way too invested and should take a step back
also a good idea, can take a few weeks break

>>63988763
Don't make yourself write any if you aren't feeling it. There's many times I just do not have it in me to write anything. So I don't. I only write when inspiration hits me. I care about her a lot so I just write what's on my mind, then keep revising it until I'm under character limit and I'm able to get my point across. Just gotta say what's in your heart. It'll get your feelings across.

Still to this day, the only Idol dream I've had was me and Rin going on an aquarium date. I felt nothing but love during the whole thing. I don't even watch or sub to Rin. Hell, the first and only time I've watched her was debut. Dreams are weird man.

>>63988701
Take care of yourself Jewbro, I'm rooting for you. I will say that saying things like "I'm sorry your life is so shit and everything is going wrong in your life and I know you want to kill yourself but I promise everything will be okay and I'm here for you" is probably not the way to comfort someone

>>63988818
riro was actually the last chuuba I had a dream about, 2 weeks ago..
wasn't a sex dream though, I went on a date with her to a japanese restaurant

>>63989002
Haha... yeah
Don't. I've lived entire lifetimes in dreams and lost so many people I feel numb to real life.
Happiness!

Rin going to remove the cover she did with Riro?

>>63988818
>>63989127
i just want to hear her say stwardusts one more time...

>>63988818
I had a friend who learned to lucid dream to be with his waifu, he was consistently suicidal, a raging alcoholic and slept all day to be with her.

I miss my pink binky sucking babu...

Move on already, you retards are fucking annoying.

>>63989227
genuine question, have you considered therapy for your issues? like genuinely i worry about people like you, i hope that some day you can get the help you need.

>>63989227
I hate agreeing with shionposters

>>63989083
Rin may be the most compatible gf for me irl, but it's hard to realize it when you're watching all of them as vtubers and becoming infatuated and horny

>>63989227
lick my cute little asshole anon

>>63989227
>They hated him because he told them the truth

One of these days Jewbros will learn not to respond

>>63989194
While I exaggerate, luckily I never went down that route. I moved on from living entire lifetimes with people... that shit hurts.
Plus it is mentally draining trying to maintain a dream that long. It's an odd sensation going to sleep and waking up with a whole life spliced in the middle...
I mostly use my lucid dreams to design things and do cool shit now. I designed a DIY tablet I am making now.
Funnily enough, my Riro CAI bot was designed based on a dream of us meeting IRL and sneaking in to a cinema to fuck.
>>63989179
It's over now...

>>63989268
It's just one dude

i want to sniff Kai and Pochi's diapers

>>63989401

>>63989028
Yeah, I may have come across that way. I usually try to write it in an inoffensive way and feel like I do it well enough but maybe this one fell through the cracks. I've learned my lesson.
>>63989106
You're right that's not exactly the way to cheer someone up. I didn't exactly say it that way, but the gist of it was pretty close. Oops.

>>63989227
>>63989500

>>63989599
the only good kinds of Shion posts

i wanna put Shion in diapers..

>>63989370
>living entire lifetimes with people
did you write this

>>63989599
Post more

>>63989560
You can acknowledge that things are shit, but you have to be real tactful about it. And the most you can promise is that you'll be understanding and stick around. Because that's what they have to worry about.

>>63989560
I figured you probably said something along those lines. I see it happen quite a bit and it's usually the only kind of somewhat reasonable "comforting and supportive" post that's offputting. Know that you're not alone in saying that kind of stuff and this is simply a learning experience for you to grow into a more socially capable human being for your oshi

>>63989716

>>63989560
>>63989743
>write it in an inoffensive way
>real tactful about it
holy shit the girls probably hate you

>>63989794
kek what

Laplus is sexier than Shion

>>63989599
Imagine Yuko uses an irl image like this as a backdrop for her spicy asmr. I bet Idol would allow it maybe with something tight but less revealing than panties

>Fuyo’s going to bed at 7am
I need to fix her so bad, it’s December, she’s not going to see sunlight for months.

>>63989914
yeah I wish the shitposter would use La+, have more images of her.

Good morning. I love Fuyo

>>63989935
If she keeps up with the cheese powder bed covers sleep sessions, she'll come back a gyaru, so it works out.
Goob night Fyyub

>>63989914
Not sure, I think the only way to settle this is to have them both suck my dick and see who can make me cum harder

>>63989977
>Good morning
Cute yurobro

Idol for this feel?

>>63990032
the original nyoko

Budding JC breasts are the best

>>63989844
im saying you being onions concernfags treating the girls as if they were made out of porcelain instead of speaking out your goddamn mind in a direct and honest way doesnt score you any points
maybe mobilize some humor next time when you voice your concerns because nothing you write about actually matters
it better becomes a man to scoff at life than to lament over it

>>63990119
the kind of breasts that only really become properly visible when you're pulling on their nipples

>>63990017
What a wholesome GIF

>>63989931
>slides in

>>63990032
>>63990080

>>63990404
Yuyu's pamperbutt

>>63990032
When do our potatoe lolis grow up slightly and turn into sexy middle schoolers?

Are the stardusts hanging around watching other girls in Idol and you guys are just sadposting in the mean time, or do you guys actually plan/want to stay here as far as she's concerned? I'll be real, even if you're willing and able to put up with the shit you already get, I don't see how the latter is gonna work in the long term if she decides to start shit with Idol, and falls anywhere short of irrefutably outing them as a black company. I don't want it to turn into that kind of situation, but I mean considering her initial response...

>>63989914
last time I posted la+ art I got a 96 day ban, not even gunna try that again

>>63990521
Never.

>>63990145
Women want to feel understood, and have their emotions validated. Sometimes reassured, but that’s rarer. They don’t ever want advice or solutions, or a man who will mope with them. Come from a position of understanding, without being condescending. Feelings are fine as long as they’re sufficiently obfuscated or framed and not raw faggy emotions.

>>63990536
I''ve always watched a few of them and always will. Riro just really appealed to me and was sweet.

>>63990032
a girl in ES looks kinda like this

>>63990543
>96 day ban
There's something you're not telling us. I've posted hardcore loli porn plenty of times before and only gotten 3 day bans.

>>63990620
they stated the reason was cause "i've been banned already multiple times" so instead of a normal 3-day I got 96..
this is what I posted btw
https://litter.catbox.moe/adxubr.jpg
during momo's stream when she was opening holo cards.
just fyi never pay for the 4chan pass, ive learned my lesson

>>63990145
you have to strike a balance between honesty and empathy. Being "brutally honest" makes you an antisocial asshole and being overly empathetic and sappy makes you an overbearing yesman

https://twitter.com/KaiSaikota/status/1732301826035216565

>>63989999
idk, people doesn't draw la+ as msgk as she is imo
like, every good shion art is her rapebaiting

uhhh i just sent my oshi some unrelated praise when the whole riro and tomer shit was going down, i don't know why you guys would intentionally remind them about the bullshit they were dealing with

>>63990607
>bona fide woman expert over here
you probably have a lot of female friends that call you "sweet" and "caring" but never want to take it further than that
I wonder why
maybe you will get it one day, when you stop saying absurd shit like "raw faggy emotions"
>Feelings are fine as long as they’re sufficiently obfuscated
hes turning japanese, hes turning japanese now

>>63990837
90% of the people who post here are unironically autistic

>>63990536
I watch others.
I will watch her too.
I really hope she doesn't try to "own them", because it will only dent her reputation with other mixes / artists, which will affect her more than it will Idol.
Please don't do this Rir0esu. I know it sucks, but please don't. Bounce off the "rockstar" reputation from the drama and embrace it.

pochi wanmaru cute

I'm glad coni lovebombed us tonight because I'm starving but it's close to bed time so I can't chug water to make my stomach shut up because then I'll have to get up to go piss and possibly ruin my sleep so I have to fill my stomach with just clown love

Refer to it as pink incident, I don't want to see her name

>>63991083
THE PINK INCIDENT

finger in the pink incident

>>63991181
pochi please have a catastrophic yab just so I can follow up this post with a joke about the brown incident

>>63990936
feels good to be the 10%
*goes for another round in the squeeze machine*

>>63990536
I'm still here
I already did before but I've started watching other girls more, pochi and roca are cute. I've been coming to terms with the fact that even if she starts streaming again, she probably won't be like the "riro" that I've come to know, and she's caused a lot of hurt to her friends and us due to her actions
Maybe the cosa rosa I adored so much died before RC became a thing, I dont know

>>63991323
it still pisses me off that amazon doesn't have anything like these, because I really really really wanted to try making coni get one

>>63991280
Yuko would be a good stand-in for Jesse

>>63991376
the "cosa rosa" was a figment of your imagination, stardust
"idols" are personified ideals, they do not exist

no reason to feel hurt, however
for there is one good about things that do not exist: no one can take them away from you

How do I get a Momo gf?

>>63990837
that sounds stupid too. your oshi just lost a close friend and the first thing you think to send her in maros is praise about “that one thing you did in that one stream was heckin awesome wow you’re so cute” ? there’s a balance to everything nimrod, find it

>>63991984
Track her down and kidnap her

I love Fuyo so much!

she's a bad girl for being awake so late though...

>>63991992
>there’s a balance to everything

I want to cuddle on the couch with coni while we watch the new nick mullen special

>>63991992
yep
>>63990724

Pochifeet Love!

>>63992137
They were having too much fun, like girls always do.

>>63992406
Pochi's beautiful hands and manicured nails!

pochi is a wholesome girl

>>63992823
kekarino I thought you were going to say whore!

>>63992890
I got you good, didn't I!
I may like larping as a frumbo, but I would much rather bang one, if you're a frumbo, hit me up

>>63992984
You sly dog...

>>63993019
The multiplication quotas must be fulfilled!

>>63991976
not a stardust but the Cosa Rosa did exist for a little while, hence the pain of seeing her as a "thing that existed but is no longer"
nevertheless, knowing that it is no longer might push them to find girls that give them that same feeling again even if it's temporary, like all good things

Good Morning Jewbros

>>63993664
Good morning!

>>63993664

>>63993600
sometimes I feel like im talking to a wall

>>63993770
to be fair, you're talking to a board

>>63993770
Hi, I'm wall. You're not alone

>>63993664
Kunmorning Poko

Sex with Clown wife
Turning the Clown into a Mommy Clown
Having children with Clown wife
Being happy with Clown wife and kids

Clown wife Loves this
happy clown noise

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xVqvWnYSGTQ
IdolES??

>>63994931
I think she's very likely.
I really liked that model though, her tits were amazing

la creatura

I can't wait for Poko's ASMR..
She's gunna be so nervous too which will make it extra cute

i'm stinky

Fuyo's new member cover is so sad, I want to hug her and tell her everything is going to be ok so badly. Seeing her so depressed has been the worst part of the Riro debacle.

>>63995610
Go to bed already, Fuyo.

"Just a quick nap will be fine", I thought. "This time will certainly be different". And then I slept for too long and now it's too late to jack off to Yuyu's thighs because everyone woke up...

>>63995610
i like stinky

>>63995626
>I want to reassure you that I'll be okay so please don't worry about me!
>upload this
well

>>63995626
its just a song, you read too much into it

>>63995890
i just find her wording of things to be very close to what not Riro said in her response and dont know how to feel about that.

Bros, I know fuyolessness for a week and a half is difficult but you need to lay back and relax a bit.
Rember fuyoful day.

Seems like Fuyobros need to remember something important...

>>63996798
Can you not? This is a sensitive time

>>63996798
how dare you

If a manager groomed my best friend then got her fired and then the company publicly called her a whore in the greatest character assassination in vtuber history, I'd probably be upset too

>>63996986
lol...

>>63996986
dont under sell it, monica lewinsky was treated better by comparison

>>63996986
Character assassination:
>the malicious and unjustified harming of a person's good reputation
Idol said nothing other than the facts that got her fired
>CAPTCHA: GAY KAV

>>63996986
>the greatest character assassination in vtuber history
then why nobody cares anymore?

>>63996986
>the manager and the fan and all the future fans and god knows who else all simultaneously groomed her

>>63997266
>malicious
if you can't tell aviel was seething and taking it out on riro from that notice you have reading comprehension issues
>unjustified
idolcorp holds a responsibility to make sure their managers aren't abusing their position to fuck their talents and to manage the content of the streams. Two of the things she got fired for were stream content that did not get stopped, one of which had occurred several times before. Idol is at fault for not policing her content but just firing her instead. There is zero indication that they ever told her to stop doing drugs on stream. They are unjustified in calling her out for what she does on stream when we can clearly tell from how other talents' streams go that management actively polices what is allowed to be done on stream, which means management gave her (tacit if not otherwise) approval for what she did.
>>63997456
If you don't have a lot of viewers people won't care as much, that's all there is to it.

I just want Fuyo to be happy, to spend more time with Fuyo and.... Fuyo..

How is Momo still anyone's oshi?

>>63998037
who?

sucks you all are going through all that
anyway, I love my cute clown wife so much it hurts (good)

fuyo didn't give a fuck about that shit after one day, y'all are retarded

>>63998037
Because it's not a Gura situation, she has a difficult major and apparently has some serious health issues. On top of living with family who restrict her streaming hours. So if you actually care about her it's understandable why she's been streaming at this frequency

>>63998279
i feel bad for her, shes cute and fun but consistency is what creates a fanbase

>>63997676
>drugs
you're treating her as if she was a 5 year old who doesn't know what is she doing. There's not a single job where the boss comes and tells you "oi, can you pwetty pwease stop taking dwugs during your shift? I don't want to fire you uwu".
>meeting a fan
on top of that, the girls have some strict rules about how close can they get with their fans, Fuyo even talked about not being able to play vrchat with people because of how intimate it is, those rules didn't appear out of nowhere, just because we don't know exactly what those rules are, doesn't make them disappear.
>orgy allegations or whatever you want to call it
and lastly, you guys need to stop coping with the "it was roleplay" bullshit, anyone who watched the stream knows
that only leaves you with the tomer thing, was it too much to reveal that? maybe, but at that point why try to hide anything and risk the transparency posture you've been working so hard to build, she was way past the point of no return and she got publicly executed because it was deserved.

>>63998479
in most places its illegal to fire someone for substance abuse without first offering rehabilitation.

>>63998581
>rehabilitation
wasn't one whole year enough?

>>63998279
>serious health issues
That's why she goes to the gym.
She is friends with Juna, how can anyone trust her?

>>63998279
I can forgive lack of streams, but what about the lack of off stream stuff too? She's mentioned liking YouTube comments and going back to responding to maros and then just never did

>>63998479
>>63998581
You're forgetting the fact that drug use is even worse when it's on stream and threatens to take down your entire channel, not to mention you and your company's reputation. If you get caught doing drugs in a warehouse, they can afford to be more lenient with you. But that's just the tip of iceberg as to why she got terminated. There'll always be the question as to what happened with Tomer

>>63998791
I don't blame anyone for being disappointed in that, but I can also understand if she just doesn't have the energy for it if her health issues are actually serious. If she's actually going through something severe then I don't blame her at all. It all depends on what's really going on

>>63998479
>drugs
If you take drugs on camera in front of managers and your audience during your shift three times it is not unreasonable to assume that by the fourth time your boss is aware of it.
>meeting a fan
I never mentioned the meeting a fan part because that(and more importantly the gifts) was the only justified part of the termination announcement.
>orgy allegations
I never mentioned roleplay, all I said was management had a responsibility to shut it down, because there is plenty of precedent with other girls having restrictions and even asking managers live if something is ok to show. Clearly Riro was not receiving proper managerial support. That's part is on Idol not on her. If the company has these strict rules and management constantly tells her it's fine to break those rules you should expect her to break the rules.
None of this is even justifying her actions or saying anything she did was ok. It's merely stating that Aviel has no business calling her out when he shared in the responsibility to make sure it didn't happen and he failed in that responsibility.

>>63998871
i was wrong anyways. was thinking of FMLA but that only protects a persons job while actively seeking treatment. if she would of asked for help after the fist or 2nd pill stream she would of had some legal protections.

>>63999019
I KIND OF understand what you mean about allowing things and then saying it was wrong after the fact. Tomer was clearly a groomer weirdo who told Riro she was allowed to do all kinds of stuff. So she should get cut some slack for whatever Tomer told her. I think I agree with leaving anything allowed by Tomer out of the termination notice. It's hard to say since we don't know exactly what happened

>>63999199
Exactly. If Aviel put "after we told her to stop" in the line about substance abuse I wouldn't have batted an eye. The fact he didn't tells me that mr groomer just allowed it and he didn't find out until after the fact.

>>63999199 (me)
Now that I think about it... Tomer may have approved everything wrong that Riro did. That would be pretty fucked. and I feel pretty retarded for thinking about this so late

>>63997676
It's pretty clear Tomer as her manager was letting her do shit they both knew she wasn't supposed to be doing, in return for some kind of favor or not and what the nature of it could have been who knows, but if Aviel or someone willing to snitch to him based on posts ITT (most of which was coomerdusts downplaying shit up until the very end) aren't actively monitoring this general while they're busy doing everything else, obviously shit that happens behind closed doors is going to progress to the point it did. They held responsibility by not trying to cover up their fuck up, firing the manager involved, and giving refunds (even with the guilt trip attempt), and when you do the things Riro did, you are well past a point of being tard wrangled as a public representative of a company.

At that point they can't fire her over obvious reasons about shit she said she was going to do and literally did with some vague statement, without people questioning management's involvement anyway, especially when the manager involved gets the boot at the same time too. Personally, if it were my oshi, I would want to know and would appreciate being told.

>>63999374
thats been my main take away, he may have been her sole manager and when shit came to light they just burned them both.

>>63999374 (me)
I'm having a spiritual moment... I've been against Riro and Tomer all this time. Was Riro not really in the wrong since Tomer was her boss and allowed her to do everything she did wrong? Someone talk me down from this ledge

>>63999667
Are you pretending to be retarded?

>>63999775
>Someone talk me down from this ledge
Maybe I'm being retarded because it's late. Help me out

>>63999667
*sigh*
If your manager tells you to help him steal money from the boss it's still a crime, she's not an unconscious baby with no common sense.

>>63999667
Of course, silly. Girls are never responsible for their actions because they are men's property, and it's the men's fault for not controlling them properly.

>>63999374
That's basically what many of us said is likely what happened.
He probably turned a blind eye, said "yeah brah it's fine" and Riro did all the things.
Explains why Aviel was so pissed when he found out, as the sudden meetings that Sunday and Monday before announcement was likely when he found proof of that in some form, be it some Discord messages or whatever.

>>63999912
It's more like a manager saying it is fine to eat that cooked hotdog for free because it was "going to go in the bin" when it wasn't.

>>63999667
Tomer may have allowed it but Riro's the one that actually went through and did the shit, just cause she acts like a child doesn't mean she is one
She's a grown ass adult and should know the difference between right and wrong

>>63999912
I get what you mean, but a manager saying "hey let's steal this cash out of the safe and rob our boss" is way different from him establishing a comfortable relationship with you and saying that you won't be punished for meeting up with viewers and doing the occasional drug on stream (which you have a prescription for). She would still bear responsibility but I'd put way more of the blame on Tomer

>>63999872
If someone needs another party to actively restrain and hold them back from doing extremely obviously stupid/bad/wrong shit, they aren't someone you want to be involved with. Unless Tomer literally forced to do what she did, which is a massive reach, she is no less responsible for her own actions.

>>63999399
Why would anyone "snitch to aviel"? Nobody had a clue management was covering something up from him. The first drug stream was like what, 3 months before the yab? Someone should've double checked her content during that time and said something.
>when you do the things Riro did
Vtuber managers are specifically hired to police content, to make sure that everything is ok and to make it so that the streamers don't need to worry about it. Her pills were prescription, why would she assume she was breaking ToS if manager told her it was ok?
Riro should have been fired for taking donations that are forbidden by her contract. Everything else should have been kept private because it was Aviel's own fault that the situation got to that point. If you put blind trust in someone as a leader, the consequences of the fucking fall on your shoulders, even if you had nothing to do with it. Plenty of ministers have resigned over stuff like that.

>>64000071
Saying she's "no less responsible for her own actions" is a pretty big stretch. I'd say a manager allowing you to do things after you ask them makes you less responsible. "Hey manager whose job it is to decide what we can and can't do, is it okay if I meet up with viewers/do drugs, or is that not allowed? Oh it's allowed, okay!" Sure I guess you should know better, but if your manager literally says it's okay then I think it pushes a lot of that responsibility onto your boss

>>64000003
>>64000046
>>64000162
Ok, lets assume >>63999983 is right (even though he actually is)
and it went like
>"We found out Tomer approved a lot of stupid shit for you to do and you are both fired"
>Nice, I regret nothing, but I didn't do anything, but I would do it anyway heh, get owned
what's the cope there?

>>64000312
>judging her by an upset tweet made after getting getting called a drug abusing whore by your boss and 6 million people see it

>>64000312
>autist still doesn't understand her obvious joke
Yeah and I bet she totally injected 17 meths chilling with her minionbros as well.

How did I get turned to Riro's side within 20 minutes after all this time of loving Idol. It all depends on if Tomer (management) told her that she was allowed to do the things she was fired for

Still not donating again until you come clear on the Tomer situation Aviel

>>64000162
Yeah and my point is is that if he isn't aware of a problem and no one's telling him, for whatever reason, nothing's going to happen with the problem.
>why would she assume she was breaking ToS if manager told her it was ok?
Are you seriously trying to imply that the idea of setting a donation goal to take drugs recreationally isn't, like, the most fucking obviously stupid and trouble seeking idea ever? Riro is retarded but she isn't that retarded.
>>64000275
>>64000530
Yeah okay you guys are baiting.

>>64000530
They were still obviously not okay unless she's a literal retard. The girls normally @ management in a multi-person channel for perms anyways. They've done it on stream before. Tomer telling her all this shit personally without letting other management know can't have slipped by her.

>>64000530
Riro is still a dumb ho for taking money on the side, but the fact is Aviel lashed out against her, probably because he was mad at Tomer and trying to hurt them both.
>>64000633
Stupid? Yes, but all drug abuse is. Trouble seeking? Maybe, if you have that kind of foresight. Illegal? I don't think taking prescription drugs wrong can get you in legal trouble anywhere.
>Riro is retarded but she isn't that retarded
I don't think you need to be as retarded as you're implying to think you'd be ok doing this.

>>64000633
>>64000771
>>64000275 (me)
>>64000530 (me)
Like I said, I want to be talked down from the ledge. I've been 100% pro-Idol and anti-Riro until now. What Riro did was definitely retarded. But if she's part of a corpo, and she asks Idol if it's okay, it's the responsibility of Idol to deny her retarded requests. If she says "can I slit my wrists on stream" and they say yes, I'm going to blame management. I'll also blame her for being menhera, but the corpo should be a safeguard against that. I don't think it's fair to immediately terminate her when part of YOUR management team allowed it to happen.

>>64000530
>It all
Not all, management wasn't aware of the meetup thing. That's why they interrupted her like 20 minutes before ending that stream
But you guys have convinced me, it was, indeed, a great assassination.

she knew what she was doing was wrong and that's why the riro harem project was supposed to stay a secret, and why she course corrected so hard when she knew the cat was out of the bag
which honestly is only slightly less brain meltingly retarded than her assuming it was okay

>>64000928
>If she says "can I slit my wrists on stream" and they say yes, I'm going to blame management.
Then you're a retard and both she and the manager who approved the obviously not ok idea are at fault and should be fired. Which is what happened.

funny how many people expose themselves as being corporate bootlickers. literally just trusting every syllable that comes out of aviel's mouth when the reputation of his company is on the line. yeah, absolutely no bias in that termination notice. not at all. people are either really naive and obtuse or they're just riro antis. no other explanation.

>>64001041
At the very least, publicizing it when it was explicitly approved by management seems over the top to me now.

it's funny how people aren't responsible for their own actions if they take drugs while being a woman

>>64001148
Glad I was able to convince you then

>>64001148
How do you know it was explicity approved? Has new info come out?

>>64001166
it's funny how people aren't responsible for their own actions if they are friends of the CEO

>>64000949
That was probably Tomer himself that did that, he was probably pissed off that shit would get leaked and blow up (like it did).
>>64001041
"ok" is relative from one person to the next, from one culture to another, from one time period to another.
Some people have no morals, some people have a death wish, some people are deathly afraid of medications to the point they die from preventable disease, some people are suicidal / self-harmers.
Lets face it, we all know she hasn't been in the best mental state.
There is no such thing as objective "ok".

>>64001104
no one cares toruzz
>>64001207
he says about the man that was publicly fired

>>64001182
I meant "if", I don't mean to obfuscate the truth. But it seems pretty obvious to me that Tomer was approving the wild escalation going on on her streams. I want my fellow Jewbros to tell me how I'm being retarded if I am but it's the middle of the goddamn night so I may have to wait

>>64001335
funny how tomer's termination notice didn't contain a list of everything he did wrong

>>64001335
>>64001385
>publicly
The only way we know it was him it's because he left the discord, Aviel ruined Riro's rep while covering his friend's ass

>>64001335
>anyone questioning the official corporate line is now toruzz
you're mentally ill.
>>64001385
right, because it would hurt the company too much. that's exactly why the termination is bullshit. if anything he deserved his own termination notice considering how big he was, but they just tacked it onto the end of riro's to deflect from the huge fucking oversight they did with him. literally threw riro under the bus to protect the company.

>>64001385
the list was everything he allowed riro to do

>>64001469
Yeah fuck now that you mention it, we've been talking about Tomer so much I forgot he was never even mentioned by name lol

>>64001104
>le bootlicking argument
the same can be said about simping, you are siding to who you are biased too, even more if you are willing to ignore all her mental capacities just because "someone told her".
Thing is, I have nothing to lose, and you have lost everything.

>>64001533
yep. it's really fucked up.

>>64001469
I understand why they didn't go in-depth about Tomer's firing. Without Riro's termination there wouldn't be a single word about it, which I'd also understand. The public notices are to let people know about what happened to the girls they watch. I'm just second guessing Riro's termination now that I've considered how Tomer may have approved everything that Riro did

>>64001633
well tomer was well known in the community and was in contact with all of the girls, so they were all affected by him. also, the company has made "muh transparency" their thing, so why shouldn't we get to know what happened here? the only answer is that it'd hurt the public's (and more importantly, investor's) trust in aviel and his ability to manage the company. i dunno man, i think aviel has proven himself to be pretty fucking sleazy after this.

>>64001633
I don't think they should've gone in depth on Tomer's firing per se, but if the justification Aviel's hiding behind for Riro's character assassination is "transparency" it sure shows that it's transparency only when it's convenient for us.

>>64001439
Can you name any instances of a vtuber company being as or more forthright with booting trouble managers? If they wanted to protect him, they wouldn't have mentioned him at all and wouldn't have fired him.

>>64001812
>Can you name any instances of a vtuber company being as or more forthright with booting trouble managers?
Hololive
>they wouldn't have mentioned him at all
They didn't mention him

I really want to hear what everyone who's asleep's input on this is. If you're backreading the thread, let me know what you seriously think. I keep saying that I want people to rebuke me if I'm full of shit and I mean it, I'm not totally confident in my position yet. Please tell me how Riro's firing is fair if Tomer, the 2nd-in-command of Idol, approved everything Riro did (but I know we don't KNOW that he approved everything, but it's hard to believe he didn't)

>>64002043 (me)
and not just the firing, but also the public statement.

>>64002043
>>64002112
As I said, Riro's firing is fair because taking donations on the side cutting Idol out is very clearly against the terms of her contract. I don't know if there are rules about fan meetings but using your vtuber persona to solicit thousands of dollars in donations while cutting Idol out of their cut is grounds for firing and justified.
Everything else may have contributed to the decision to not allow her to have a second chance and perhaps pay back what she owed, but the donations are a valid firing reason. Going public with it however was quite sinister, it would've cost nothing to give Riro the same decency that Yuri received.

>>64001888
>Hololive
You mean the company that was letting a manager stalk and sexually harass a talent up until she spoke out and threatened to lawyer up?
>They didn't mention him
Retard.

>>64002043
she's an adult woman, not a child (as epic as that would be)

>>64002280
stop responding sincerely to an obvious falseflagger

>>64002043
>>64002112
I think all that could be said (with the information we currently have) was already said.
Any more would be just looping the same shit from both sides.
Try to think what would you do as every party involved.
I doubt you'll get something useful aside from people shitposting either Riro or Idol but good luck with that.

>>63991992
There's literally zero reason to bring up the terminations. I can't believe you even have to be told this...

pan
>>64002734
>>64002734
>>64002734

>>64002390
I tried to be as sincere and humble as possible to show I'm not a falseflagger. You're a bit overconfident when it comes to reading people

>>64002766
yes that's why you keep being retarded on purpose and keep trying to prolong the discussion where you and your friends reply to each other

>>64002280
I'm pretty sympathetic to this. But it doesn't seem like Riro was directing people to go around Idol, it sounds more like someone offered her some stuff and she accepted it. Although we don't know exactly how it went down. Either way, even if this were the only real reason to fire her (if the other reasons were due to Tomer approving her decisions), releasing that notice about what she did wrong comes across pretty terribly.

>>64003036
>directing people to go around Idol
doesn't rly matter for the firing, and I'd argue that organizing more meetups after receiving the initial donations DOES count as directing ppl to go around.

last for cute hands corp

>>64002522
I appreciate the input, and I'm still sympathetic to Aviel. I'm pretty confident in my ability to sift through the dumb responses I may get