/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

I love my wife so much!!

>>63960578
Someone please add Gura hoods to Plato and Aristotle.

I hate my life so much!!

why would she tweet about fes that shit isn't for MONTHS

>>63961170
I understand being burnt out on games, but that's not what she said or what she's doing. She's burnt out on us, and that actually really hurts a lot.

>>63961427
same desu

>>63961394
Edit the entire picture and replace everyone with chuubas.

>>63961448
This.

>Doesn't even tweet about Fes
Grim

>>63961448
>still at it trying to >we everyone into their acting like retarded manchildren

>>63961534
Just like every event for the past year you will get 1 tweet on the day and no further discussion.

>>63961569
So you're not a chumbud or one of her fans, got it.

>>63961592
Anon this is Fes we're talking about. If she's not excited about it then it's actually over

>>63961606
>you have to be an anti to be a chumbud
this is what "chumbuds" unironically think

>>63961394
>The Academy: Chumbud edition
I suppose our modern hyperreality dystopia can have some redeeming qualities, sometimes

>>63961569
>she's burnt out on her other fans, but not me. That's why she doesn't stream for them, but she streams for m- oh...

https://files.catbox.moe/cu5uut.jpg

>>63961653
Do you not remember last year? She didn't talk about fes at all and condensed her entire 2 month Japan trip into one hour of talking.

>>63961661
Is she still communicating with you then? No? Didn't think so, retard.
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>>63961678
stop projecting your retarded thinking on me, I will never relate to you and I'm glad I won't

>>63961716
It's getting worse, she condensed the two months between the anniversary and sendai into 15 minutes.

Man it's good to be the last chumbie

>>63961569
I only see one obstinate retard here.

>>63961448
Who is us. I’m not you

>>63961794
nyoi

>>63961716
No she didn't. She tweeted about it and kept giving us updates on how busy she was with her recordings and dance practice.

>>63961716
Yeah, that's when I finally knew something was very, very wrong. She didn't want to share anything with us anymore. She finally made it to Japan after years of hyping it up and telling us how excited she was about it, but then nothing. She didn't want to share her experience with chumbuds and hasn't talked about any of her projects or concerts since.

>>63961726
I said I'll never relate to you communicationsharts

Ladies and gentlemen, I present to you…the shart.
>audience erupts in clapping
>clapping and applesause so loud people start to unironic cumming and shitting themselves
Every. Single. Time.

Does Gura squirt or cream?

>>63961794
Not so fast buddy!

Who even gives a shit anymore

>>63961866
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>>63961790
>>63961726
>>63961716
>>63961678
>>63961661
>>63961569
>>63961534
Where are your logical proofs

>>63961790
You aren't above anyone else, maggot. You're either one of her fans that she's avoiding or you aren't her fan at all. No one is getting treated any differently.

>>63961866
>>63961870
>The duality of /ggg/

>>63961878
>squirt or cream
Women are unironically so fucking disgusting.

>>63961926
Strongbuds are objectively the better chumbie

>>63961833
"us", meaning chumbuds, her fans and supporters. The people who she's burnt out on and the ones she's ghosting/avoiding. I assume you're a chumbud because you're here, but I guess not, sorry.

>muh no true chumbud fallacy
Can he just put a bullet in his brain already? He's the most boring retard that has said nothing of value for over a year now.

>>63961981
Like men are any better

Sex with a fembud.

>>63962012
You arent a chumbud though. I’m confused as to why you lumped me in with those people you call “us”

>>63961926
lol wdym you definitely deserve to be avoided, or at least put in the dog house. The second you seethe at her I'm no longer on your side.

>>63962049
Seethe hole.

>>63961866
NTA, but Tweeting isn't talking to us about it. Everyone else had streams where they spent time talking to their fans about their performances and their time in Japan at length.
Gura didn't.

>>63962012
Its the work part thats burned her out autism-kun, and the fact she said she's trying to get over it crumbles your entire self flagulating theory.

>>63962049
I want to see your bushi pucci fembud. I’m sure its beautiful

>>63962012
>us
Go away, you subhuman female

>>63961878
There's only one person that knows the answer to that question: yeah, me

Gura's bushy pucci and hairy pits.

>>63962099
If everyone else => (sugma V ligma) & balls

>>63961875
You relating to someone or not is besides the point, you mental midget.
Gura's breaks are also breaks from you as well, no matter what you believe or who you relate to.
Now let's see your autistic rage. Call me names for destroying your argument again, little boy.

Don't plan on reading this thread
I LOVE GURA!!

Gura is fuzzy like a squishy peach.

>>63962237
O_O

>>63962177
>>63962237

>>63962099
Gura had at least 2 member streams while she was in Japan and did some member posts about how busy she was. She then talked about how Fes revitalized her. She used to care and she was actually busy during that Japan ghosting arc but now she's just sick of it all. The fact that she hasn't even tweeted is fucking grim because this is the one thing Gura would be excited about.

>>63962199
>gold bar on the floor
>but it's surrounded by lava
>heh, you must really hate gold if you're avoiding it huh

>>63962084
Go suck a dick faggot

>>63961981
>>63962084
We get it you're gay
>>63962049
We get it you're female

Day 8! Give it for day 8!

>>63962177
Anon you pronounce this
>poo-chee
Right? Cause I’ve always been under the impression it was
>poo-sway
Which is how I imagine the French say it.

>>63962338
(You) are not the gold either.

>>63961794

Why hasn't our fembud posted her beautiful body yet?

>>63961997
>>63962074
>>63962338
You don't seem to be very literate. Gura is avoiding both her fans and her antis. It doesn't matter what you call me or anyone else.
In fact, the sad part is that you're undeniably being treated exactly the same by her as she treats her antis. You can pathetically cope by pretending that she's doing this to them and not you, but the end result is the same.
It doesn't matter how you feel, what your perception of the situation is, or if you don't care about communication, she's avoiding you the same way she's avoiding every other fan of hers.

>>63962199
Also it's funny how you're trying to take on my arrogant demeanor and insults while not having the reasoning ability to back it up. Not like there was any hope in you becoming a likable person either way, since you seem to only be capable of taking on negative qualities of others.

>>63962485
I genuinely don’t believe there is a single (actual) female that comes to this general. Seriously.

>>63962338
>I'm a gold bar
>I'm not a narcissist, by the way.
lmao

>>63962556
You are are trying really hard to make me hate gura

>>63962115
but she said she's still doing the work part, the "holowork"

>>63962556
>MY SUFFERING IS YOURS
lol no fag, it will never be this no matter how hard you try to project your misery on others, I know that you're physically incapable of seeing other perspectives though

>>63962595
I've been thinking about this more and more recently. Why do people want to become women so much? Being a guy is great.

>>63962556
She knows about my fetish about being avoided God I love Gura!!!

>>63962666
Why have a disgusting penis when you could have a cute cunny?

>>63962666
Grass is greener on the other side trope. Simple as.

>>63962594
never said that brainlet, it was just the most straightforward, clear example for 'something not bad' I could come up with, but of course you STILL get caught up on it because you're completely disinterested in seeing the argument

>>63962593
>while not having the reasoning ability
I'm literally the one that posted the proof of the logical biconditional last thread. The only one here who resorts to name calling is you.

She burnt out on us because she loves us!

Holy fucking insecure self-absorbed Reddit LARPers
None of you faggots (you know who you are) can argue your way out of a paper bag and your collective insult game is somehow even fucking weaker
This has been a perennial problem /here/ but it's like you're deliberately trying to expand the frontier to a new horizon of cringe
All of you need go back and stay there
Forever

>>63962412
Yea I pronounce it like poo-chee.

I thought there was a member post or something after seeing how fast the thread is but it's just you subhuman schizos arguing about stupid shit. Can you not waste my time and stay quiet until something of note happens? Thanks.

>>63962716
If you could magically turn into a girl like in Onimai then maybe. Women are entirely different beings.

>>63962804
weirdest appeal to authority I've seen this year

The best thing you can do, is end it all and leave forever.

>>63962851
if there was a member post or something it'd be way faster than 84 posts in half an hour
consider this the specific 'don't even bother looking' thread speed for next time

>/ggg/ is still shitting and pissing themselves even nothing’s changed in past 180 days
Don’t you guys ever just want to talk about nice things? Not everything has to be GRIM or whatever. We can be happy too ya kno

Is Gura a lonely loli god?

Didn't read the thread. I will love Gura as long as she makes my pp hard

>>63962938
I've also realized that people come to /ggg/ to engage in arguments.

Are you a chumbabooey?

>>63962938
>doomersharts and antis
>happy
lol no, this is why you don't deal with people with baggage

>>63963042
>>63962975
ye

luv me some tokyo wabi lullaby, unironically everything that I wanted from a gooba song, really hope she sings it on a kara

I should read prunus girl again

Fembuds are so hot and sexy.

>>63962938
what nice things? there are no nice things left

>>63962663
lmao. No, retard.
I AM suffering from her being gone. You are not.
You've made that perfectly clear and you repeat yourself every thread.
However, whether one is suffering from her absence or not is AGAIN irrelevant to anyone's ability to spend time with her. This argument is true, even if you were to go as far as calling me an anti.
Gura is literally not streaming or communicating to her fans. This is a statement of fact and stoicism/coping denial/etc does not affect it.

She's awake.

>>63963096
Shinkiro is better

>>63963096
Can confirm, song is kino
Have been listening on and off since release

>>63962857
Gura in her current state reminds me of why people think all women are retarded

>>63963173
no it really isnt

>>63963143
Thank you factbud however what you do with this information is more important than the information itself. I choose to be a strongbud

I am extremely horny for fembuds.

>>63963130
I’ve got something nice for you pal. A nice long sausage. A nice long one. Spicy and smells of spoilt milk too.

>>63963186
Both are kino but Shinkiro is her best song

>>63963096
Yeah, I was kinda meh on it at first but it really grew on me fast and I really like it now

>>63962666
idk but it's the lamest goal ever. why not become a dragon or something instead?

>>63963143
sorry you're not just like her frfr

Gura? Mine.

>>63963221
no it isnt shinkiro is mid as fuck

>>63963221
And it's not even her song kek

>>63963215
Wash your fucking cock, you fucking ape. Jesus

>>63963106
i like prunes. i wonder if a prune girl would be hot

I can't stop gooming to fembuds.

>>63963246
>Shinkiro is mid
Kys you have shit taste

>>63963143
>This is a statement of fact
And this statement has been proven false CATEGORICALLY on several different occasions, and yet when faced with these responses, you’ve remained silent.
If you don’t at minimum address the critical points brought up, then why even continue to take you seriously?

>>63963180
A smart girl that knows her place is a keeper

I need a fembud in my life.

>>63962900
It wasn't an appeal to authority. That implies one's argument relies upon the position of a third party. It was a direct refutation of your accusation that I lack the ability to reason, when I'm literally the only one here who has ever presented any kind of formal proof for their position.
If you're going to pretend to sound smart by throwing out debate terminology (which is not the same as formal logic, btw), then at least bother to learn what those terms mean.

>>63963381
oh wow generic city pop with marine mixed in
i much prefer the honeyworks song

Just so you know, I love Gura the most and Gura loves only me.

>>63963426
Gura doesn't love you

Fem~ buds~

>>63963408
ok midwit but you're still trash with logic and have never said anything interesting in your life

>>63963415
>Marine mixed in
You say it like that's a bad thing

I love the one who loves Gura the most the most.

>>63963508
yes i dont care about that hag
i only want gura

Let’s get a poem going. I’ll start (aka I’m too lazy please finish my bit)
>TWINKLE TWINKLE LITTLE SHART
>HOW I WONDER HOW YOU ARE

Stinky fembuds.

Child

>>63963426
I made this post

>>63963554
As for me. i jack off all day
waiting for a stream to come my way

im tired goob night

>>63963386
>And this statement has been proven false CATEGORICALLY on several different occasions
Are you from Bizarro World, anon? A tier 5 member? Seriously, where the fuck are you seeing all these streams and communication from Gura?
The last time she said anything was 8 days ago. Even if you're one of the "likes = communication" retards, she's been completely and utterly silent.
And this isn't even talking about the literal months that she was away before that.

reminder that bloop is cute

anyone think gura doesnt show up anymore because she feels guilty after seeing how fuwamoco does it and she just feels out of place and overshadowed by them? I dont believe her take on fuwamoco just motivation, like she has stated, but obviously its a different feeling (shes done pretty much nothing since, and to be fair, before too). but they have still imprinted on her. and my take is she feels overshadowed. it combos nicely with the burnout situation, seeing how easily others do it and how much you struggle to perform the same task burns you out quickly.

this could also explain her 1 week comeback, she thought shes over the burnout, tried to rekindle the hololive passion and just burned out more as a result.
im not saying fuwamoco is the only or THE reason for her being absent, but i do believe it's a contributing factor.

>>63963523
That hag had sex with Gura unlike you

>>63963657
holy shit communicationsharts are the most annoying people on earth

>>63963717
the worst post yet

Gura is Gawr, and they are both Gabby.

>>63963195
That's a perfectly fair and reasonable position. You are perfectly entitled to eat the ass of your true kamioshi, Marcus Aurelius, all you want.
However it doesn't preclude you from being >us or >we when people are referring to her fans in general.

>>63963805
people who act like antis aren't fans, delusionaltard

>>63963716
Her fans don't want her to stream as often as Fuwamoco. MWF would make most chumbuds happy

>>63963853
Lol I'll take once a week or month at this point desu

>>63963276
>Jordan Peterson is a chumbie
What is this timeline

>>63963735
She wishes

>>63963739
>makes bizarre, incoherent statement, lacking any basis in reality and incongruous to records of fact
>anon asks him what he means
>"jeez, these people are so annoying"

>>63964047
I didn't make all the posts in that comment chain, but communicationtards making arguments for their needs will never be relevant

>>63963716
That might be part of it, but Gura is competitive in nature and she hates losing, so it doesn't make much sense to me that she would look at how well they treat their fans and then immediately give up like she seemingly has.
That just doesn't sound like her.

>>63963408
>Presenting a formal proof for your position
>In /ggg/
This implies rather poor reasoning abilities in my book

>>63963845
Saying you wish she would communicate or spend time with us doesn't make you an anti, delusionalfriend.

>>63963853
I would love for Gura to stream as much as Fuwamoco does, but I think that would be too hard on her. I agree that I'd like to see Gura stream MWF and maybe sometimes on the weekends, though.

>>63964191
lol, I'd actually respect communicationsharts if that's all they did, but they insist and bitch and act as if they're owed it, so that's why I hate them now

>>63964300
Just curious. Why is anyone supposed to care what you think of them?

>>63964372
because his oshi is /ggg/

Gura cultivated a community to support her, but
now she seems happy to see everyone scatter.

She's idle farming the loyal remains of her withering fanbase.

I just wonder how Gura's situation is going to evolve as we enter 2024.

Will she ever stream regularly again as part of hololive?

>>63964372
What do I have to do with that statement? Since you don't seem to be getting the point, it was that politely wishing for something is different from what most "chumbuds" did, which is insisting and begging

Gawr Gura is showing people her penis again. Someone get the spray bottle.

>>63964191
I see them go above and beyond and leave snide pointed remarks in her comment section and discourage anyone from still supporting her by calling them the real antis. True gaslighting at its finest.

I met a small girl in real life that reminds me of gura. It doesn't matter because I'll never have a relationship with her but it was nice to find that people like her do exist in the real world.

>>63964137
You're right, I find that weird as well but it is the truth unfortunately. Though, Gura was also already burned out before gen 3 debuted, so i wouldnt really attribute it to her competitiveness. obviously theres a different crux to the burnout issue.

>>63964436
I wasn't asking about your main point. I don't even really care about it. I'm asking you why you think it matters to anyone here whether you hate them or not.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=beFiVQcwVY8

Shark onahole when

>>63964565
>why does it matter that you hate beggars and people who try to force gura to do what they want? I'm a real chumbud after all!

>>63964565
Again you’re missing my point. Allow me to reiterate for your retard ass one more time.
Politely expressing a wish is different from what many "chumbuds" often do, which involves persistent insistence and pleading.

>>63964565
>I'm asking you why you think it matters to anyone here whether you hate them or not.
People who post their opinions here unpromoted definitely care because why would they be coming here to put their opinion on display? Note that I'm specifically talking about the people who START these arguments or come to "just post facts". Those people are obviously looking mainly for a reaction from this thread, so they care about the thread's opinion.

I think the way Gura treats her fans is pretty awful and falls extremely short of how an idol from Hololive is expected to treat her fans.

>>63964372
Generally speaking? Human decency
As much as LARPers talk a big game about not caring what other people think being the key to "happiness", that sidesteps the unfortunate reality that social shame is the bedrock for societal standards
The fact that people have become inconsiderate narcissists who don't care what others think is a primary causal factor for social isolation and is, for example, a major element of why so many places have deteriorated into unsightly shitholes with terrible, potholed roads filled with litter, despite the fact that even literal povertyfags a century ago would have kept the streets clean and presentable despite sometimes having to resort to burning the furniture to survive the winter. It's also why public school teachers in the US and UK have become unionmonkeys who obsess over pay, benefits and time off rather than the development of the children for its own sake as a form of public service, partly why the UK particularly is seeing an increase in primary school children who aren't potty trained, etc.
Humans are properly supposed to care about each others' thoughts, feelings and sensibilities, and choosing not to care is basically just a short-sighted cope for the fact that the social fabric has been broken beyond repair. That's the reason generally, at least. If you just meant that PARTICULAR anon, on the other hand, I don't know.

>>63964865
I blame cover. Either for directing Gura to do this, or for allowing her to continue doing this. It’s gross mismanagement of talent and the continued silence only makes me distrust the company more and more.

>>63964709
Again, I didn't miss your point. I didn't care about your point. I dodged your point. Your point smelled like gym socks and feces and so I avoided it and continued to let it lie in streets, blanketed by a cardboard comforter.
To me, the only amusing thing you said was your explanation for why you hate "communicationsharts" and your declaration of such, as if anyone is supposed to care what you think about them. I'm asking you why you think anyone cares.

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>>63965032
Can you communicationtards fuck off to Kiara or something already? Gura is the thinking man's chuuba, unironically.

>>63965248
You must be hard of hearing or ESL. Can’t tell.
Let me spell it out for you, Einstein.
Expressing a desire politely stands in contrast to the common behavior among "chumbuds," who tend to engage in insistent and persistent begging.

>>63964137
Kek well it's really her own fault if the dogs steal her throne. She's just sabotaging her career at this point.

I think Gura is neato

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>>63965462
This is either a masterful troll or a hilariously broken bot farm, I'm laughing either way

>>63965619
mr sharts is unfortunately not a bot or even part of a raid, he was still here while all of those types were busy raiding elsewhere last week or so
that realization was slightly depressing

>>63965032
I somewhat agree, however I don't think it's entirely their fault. I think they're doing a really bad job of managing her because making sure she doesn't burn out is definitely part of a manager's job.
My trust towards staff used to be much lower, but I thought about something recently. Almost all homo collabs in the EN branch have stopped. Mori appeared in one of the star's birthday concerts, but other than that, the number of homo collab spam that was happening during the Summer has basically dried up completely, at least on the EN side. It feels like a management decison, and Advent kind of confirmed that to me. Think about it, if they wanted to push the EN stars so much, then they would have hired 5 girls willing to collab with males instead of what we got. And it's the same for Regloss on the JP side.

>>63965581
She just got 30k people to watch a stream for her collaboration with an entire city and its aquarium and in the middle of that were waves of membership chats flooding in welcoming her back just after releasing a city pop song with marine that's in the millions of views. I'm not seeing this sabotaged career.

>>63965721
I'm only one of those posts, faggot

>>63965799
that you're any of them is depressing

>>63964865
What makes you think you deserve more than what she gives you? There are some people who only stream/drop videos once a year and their fans are appreciative of that.

>>63965853
Name an idol who only talks to their fans once a year.

>>63965837
not as depressing as you crying that someone is defending "your oshi"

>>63965920
you don't do anything but escalate retarded arguments
I consider you a lower form of life than bjoarn, at least he does this shit in comment sections

>>63965912
Haato

>>63965972
keep justifying seething and siding with antis, bro

Is Gura a fembud?

When myth did an off collab karaoke, wasnt there a section with just ame and gura turning the stream back on? I could only find one where mori is also there and absolutely shitting up the karaoke... I guess I really filtered her out of my memory? Was there no other other Gura and Ame off collab karaoke other than the myth offcollab + after stream, and gura birthday offcollab?

I think I remember Ame saying "Gura wanted to sing but she didnt want to do it alone" or something of that sort, maybe it was more like "I asked her if she wanted to sing some more and she nodded" I believe she also said somewhere gura just sat there looking like she wanted to do something and Ame hit her up with "wanna sing?" and Gura nodded or something. anyone know what the fuck im talking about or did i have some schizophrenic kino I cant rewatch because it was never real?

>>63965619
>>63965721
>>63965837
Some people just don't get it. Every thread has a system. In many threads they wait until Page 10 and then drop a piece of art or a shitpost to bump. I don't go to other threads on this board but /ggg/ often stays active via sarcasm, shitpost, ritualpost, and/or complete incoherence. The policies used to moderate this board preclude many topics of discussion so there's a pretty narrow spectrum of content that can be posted when there's nothing to talk about.

Gura cute Gura cute!

i have so much gura much
its still on my desk everywhere

my wife

The best thing you can do, is end it all and leave forever.

>>63965619 (Me)
>>63966249
So what you're saying is that these anons simply want to bump the thread, and in the case of /ggg/, the chuuba being AWOL along with life under the janny bootheel has caused their tactics to devolve into an incessant frenzy of timelooping and schizoposting?
Plausible, but I maintain that this phenomenon is competing with an unhealthy population of actual bots and possibly glowies for an ecological niche

>>63966870
>Plausible, but I maintain that this phenomenon is competing with an unhealthy population of actual bots and possibly glowies for an ecological niche
It's best to pretend the three letter agents don't glow so bright. It helps their mental health.

>>63959227
I was catching up on the last thread and saw this and I think you don't really understand logic. The existence of the double implication operator <=> doesn't imply that any two premises are connected by it, that is itself one of of your premises.
Really your argument is:
P: Gura is burnt out
Q: Gura finds streaming unfulfilling
1. P <=> Q
2. P v Q
Thus: P ^ Q

(<=> is double implication, v is OR, ^ is AND)
This argument is logically VALID (if the premises are true, then the conclusion is true) but logical validity says nothing about the truth of the argument, your premises have to actually be true for the argument to be SOUND.
For example: 1. If the sky is green, then Gura is a dog. 2. The sky is green. Thus: Gura is a dog.
This is a logically valid argument of the same structure as yours, but it's obviously not true.
If premise 1 is incorrect, that doesn't somehow magically spawn two new material implications (P => Q and Q=>P), it could just as well mean that P and Q are unrelated.

As for the content of the premise, of course it's possible to find something unfulfilling without being burnt out. I don't feel fulfilled from shitposting on the internet, but that doesn't mean I'm burnt out from it. And I do get burnt out from school even though I find education to be fulfilling.
I'm going to sleep now so I can't argue with you about it, but just remember not to mix up logical validity with truth. It's easy to come to the wrong conclusions with a good method if the method relies on assumptions.

>"she has a bf" doesn't work because Gura also acted like that during her Japan trips
>"she will graduate soon" doesn't work
>"she doesn't communicate" doesn't work
>"she is not being honest" doesn't work
>"she will acknowledge the leeches" doesn't work
>"pre-recorded stream" doesn't work
>"I will cancel my membership" doesn't work given that it has been using many times over now

>you are here

So many pointless posts today, I thought something actually happened while I was at work.

>>63966188
>I think I remember Ame saying "Gura wanted to sing but she didnt want to do it alone"
That was the one after the myth offcollab

>>63967018
That autistic fuck? Me

This is complete speculation on my part and probably not true at all, but what if some of the other girls are mad at Gura?
The sudden and extreme drop in male collabs on the EN side is undeniable at this point. Maybe it was brought on by something that happened with the two faggots that were fired, but regardless, it really does seem like a decision coming from EN management to keep the branches more separate. Maybe upper management even asked them to be more like Gura and ignore the homos publicly.

In such a scenario, do you think it'd be possible that any of the girls that enjoyed collabing with males so much would resent Gura? Or maybe some of the staff? Do you think they would blame her for the two that were fired? What if Gura is being shunned by some of the other girls for being seen as a beacon of no male collabs? Obviously, Kiara would continue to support her in such a scenario because she's also made it clear that she's not interested in collabing with males. Maybe Ame would also support her, considering how much they've talked off stream.
But I think if some of the other girls started hating Gura behind the scenes, it would definitely cause her to burn out because of how conflict averse she is. It'd also kind of explain why so many of them wouldn't talk about her at all during her months-long break.

Keep in mind that this is just a random musing and that there is absolutely no evidence that any of the others dislike her. I don't want to start any stupid rrats.

>>63967246
No, me actually.

>>63967296
The other girls would be mad at Gura for simply putting in a fraction of their work while being way more popular and making way more money on merch.

>>63967296
Bae and Gura rarely interact, so it might be her, IF your rrat is true.
Mori, Idk
Sportsfest indicates she's still friends with Kronii

>>63967296
No Anon, Gura didn't touch that situation with a ten foot pole. Pretty sure that she was always just chilling on the Cute Girls Doing Cute Things train and wanted to keep it that way. The way holostars were marketed just brought in the kulturkampf for a while.

Mmm kiss kiss kiss Gura

Well I guess you can't have too many cozy threads before another wave of threadshitting.

>>63967393
waoh u forgot ur helmet

>>63967664
I have something right here for you to shit on, pal.

>>63967296
personally i think holostars occupies their mind a lot less than it does most of holostars haters. Gura probably has said she doesnt want to collab with them, and its her right to choose collab partners and evidently hololive accepts her decision, everyone has to decide for themselves who they want to stream with (and then cover gives the ok, not the other way around). Highly doubt cover forces any kind of collabs if the talent is uncomfortable with it. We wouldve heard of it by now

Wife soon?

Technically speaking, that means Yagoo is ESL, right?

>>63967296
I don't claim to be an expert on any of the girls' histories or personalities, in fact I would say I know fairly little about them relative to the massive timelines compiled by autists out there. That said, if we entertain this premise for a moment, I'm trying to think of who, if anyone, would be THAT petty and obsessively devoted to male collabs to the point that they'd feel compelled to start shit a genmate/senpai, especially someone like Gura of all people
Probably wouldn't be Ame or Kiara, for the aforementioned reasons; probably not Fauna either, if I understand correctly Gura was her oshi before she joined Hololive. Which of them, exactly, refused to talk about Gura over the last few months? I've heard anons mention that concept repeatedly but for some reason they never name names

>>63967768
further proof that I'm the most autistic fuck

>>63967879
ESL is English as a Second Language. Did you just think it was an insult?

>>63967588
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m2LEFSR2Lqw
Tragic, in the unlikely event this is true - I know people have their problems with Bae, but she and Gura work phenomenally well together

>>63967897
The fact that you’re bringing this up, but were proven false a MULTITUDE of times, without ever once giving a succinct retort, is proof of in itself, IN TOTALITY, that you are no longer worth arguing against. If you can’t discredit a SINGLE of those previously touched upon points, then what use is arguing with you?

>>63965994
>Haato
Maybe, but Haachama's talked to her fans every single day since she's come back. Also, since Nov 1, she's streamed 31.5 hours.
These are all the streams she's done since coming back.
https://youtu.be/q6KktlRYeuI
https://youtu.be/jWd6cpvnfd0
https://youtu.be/9SdUUEWtWZg
https://youtu.be/-Dmo9lykEIk
https://youtu.be/_U--hP9-WyY
https://youtu.be/8lK72FOLOto
https://youtu.be/SqbCfYFUokw
https://youtu.be/Ee8_8F1oPWc
https://youtu.be/Opo5QJehk4I
https://youtu.be/u-eg-GL7Ccg
https://youtu.be/ti5POC3mi5c
https://youtu.be/I0jbnzzsmDc
https://youtu.be/uii3udF_nII
https://youtu.be/hai9wo_W2lE
https://youtu.be/IO2ImIoHz5E
https://youtu.be/TQbVEk2cS9Y
https://youtu.be/quwi8gYDVkM
https://youtu.be/pJUuno2SjHs
https://youtu.be/hG8TeHqnAlM
https://youtu.be/h8_hZqN9Dqo
https://youtu.be/-yKRb5sFzVY
https://youtu.be/-iNK4syhjcM

>>63967979
>just think it was an insult
It’s not? I exclusively use it in insulting ways tho..?

>>63968064
Literally WHAT the fuck are you talking about?
Surely (You) meant to (You) a different anon?

>>63968096
I envy haatons

>>63968204
I think he's being ironic.

>>63968096
So you're saying there's a chance for Gura to get her mojo back, just like Haato

>>63968204
I didn’t actually read your post before posting that sorry kek

>>63967201
I thought so too, but mori is just shitting all over the place

ah the haato, haato, you know, the haato
where did you people come from

>>63967067
>Gura also acted like that during her Japan trips
I mean, she did ghost us and keep us out of the loop for a majority of her trips, but nothing compared to what she's doing now. I'm not saying the other part of that sentence is true or not, but I don't think you can compare what she's doing now to even just 4 months ago.

>>63968486
Probably not since Gura has been burnt out for twice as long as haachamas medical break.

>>63968509
All good lmao

I'm just gonna assume that the thread is not worth reading.

>>63968787
Smartest chumbud

>>63967598
The entire premise of the hypothetical is that we don't know what goes on behind the scenes. Something that a lot of people enjoy forgetting is that the homos have access to girls' discord server and have many of the same managers and staff, which was confirmed by Bae when the first gen of EN homos debuted. Any of them could talk to or message Gura whenever they wanted, but there are probably rules about that kind of thing.

>>63967296
All the girls are sweethearts, so only a schizo manager would make things awkward, but we haven't seen much of those filthy, skulking manager scumbags who deserve to be skewered and burned alive.

>>63967812
I just find it really hard to believe that they went from pushing homos so much to hiring 5 new girls that want nothing to do with them.
None of the EN girls joined that Niji Apex tournament either, and I just find that odd considering how many of them seemed to be all about that kind of thing.
I'm not going to question it, as I prefer it this way, but it's weird that all of it stopped so suddenly and completely.

>>63967296
You remember the insider post? mind you that shit still persists nowadays (Ame will not be participating in the new year's 3Dlive to show Cover who is the boss here, Kiara had a meltdown on twitter), that's what she has been dealing with and Gura being conflict averse like you said doesn't help. I don't think the homo faction has influence over anything imo

>>63967897
>Which of them, exactly, refused to talk about Gura over the last few months?
Not a single holomen in EN mentioned Gura or her absence for the entirety of two months between Myth's anniversary and Gura's phasmo collab on Ame's channel. Even when Ame or Kiara were asked, they seemed really annoyed and impatient about it and said they hadn't talked to her at all. It felt like everyone knew something and no one was allowed to say anything about it.
It was very strange.

>>63968277
why? Has haachama done shikoshiko yet?

>>63969599
kiara did say she missed goob.

>>63969333
I'm failing to see how Niji whatever is connected to this, are you sure its not just individual talents reaching out to them because they want to participate? As in, its not an event organized by Cover, why would any newcomer immediatly start to associate with a different brand?

What if I typed letters which made up words, but what if I didn’t stop there? What if I kept going until the words looked less like sentences and more like a solid block? What if I didn’t stop until the became almost as long as it was wide? Consider that I just need to say something, more than have anything to say, but remember still that the exact same sentiments can be conveyed through a near infinite pool of letter combinations. If I were to whisper my thoughts to you, in the cold of night, on a board for 2D computer generated fursuit enthusiasts, would you listen to them? Would you tickle my lips with the supple rubbery cartilage of your hearing hole? Would you ponder my lamentations, breath into my nostrils the sweet scent of commiseration? Would you validate my theories, give meaning to my wild flailing? Would you massage the teat of the cow named drama as I suckled sweet mana from its turgid, woeful nipple? Would you lay with me, in the hay, as we basked in the succor of entertainment, created by us, for ourselves, in use of everything, in use of everyone, to fill our gaping psyches with pleasant dreams of rueful othered beasts and drape our swelling corpulence in the shining gilded fabric of superiority? Would you gaze at the stars close from the seat of heaven and tell me I was based?

>>63968486
Yes. As long as what Gura is suffering from is some kind of mental and physical breakdown due to overwork from trying to manage hololive career and school, but ultimately failing out of university which causes her to be hospitalized and not because of burn out or her not wanting to stream anymore.
As long as it's that, then maybe Gura will come back.

hey
gura cute?

>>63969398
>the insider post
Which one? Most of the "insider posts" were the pajeet saying that he has an uncle that works at Cover and that Gura is doing "terrible things" and you'll see soon, just trust me.

>>63969787
I didn't really follow that apeshit thing, aside from laughing at people who thought that Mumei and Bijou would join but what I understood that Stars were the ones that were in charge of asking people in Hololive side

>>63969599
I mentioned Gura and that's all that matters.

>>63967664
It's just the fes announcement, they'll fuck off again once their bedtime hits and we can have a few more days of peace.

>>63969689
their oshi is spending time with them

>>63969787
From my limited understanding, the niji holo apex tournament was orgainized by the fat purple NijiEN girl named Selen and she had said that every branch of Nijisanji and Hololive would be represented at the tournament. But then when the day came to announce teams, no one from HoloEN was announced to be participating, which was weird considering it seemed like she had confirmation of at least someone attending before that.

>>63970659
Good for them. I won't feel envy unless they are getting tongue punched in their ears.

If we are comparing, I wish fauna's asmr was like ogayu's

>>63965781
NTA, but a return stream after an unannounced 2+ month break barely broke her normal ccv, she did a book report on why you should visit a city for a few thousand dollars, and an aquarium is basically going to become a popuip store for a month, and her original duet with marine that had a full professionally animated mv got mogged in a few days by a marine solo cover of a meme song. Sure her career isn't dying, but it's not thriving either.

>>63970961
Okayu cyb0rseggz feels amazing.

>>63971162
I want a fembud like ogayu in holoEN. Please Cover, make EN gamers soon.

>>63968587
I like the ear of the haato.

>>63970961
I like Noel's SFW asmr the most
she has an incredible setup

>>63968486
None of the JP holos that suffered from burn out who didn't fix it by going away for an (announced) month-long break and then come back and stream full time have ever come back and streamed any kind of normal amount.
It happened to Aqua, Ayame, Shion, Suisei, and Marine. None of them stream that much anymore and they all have less than 300 hours in 2023 so far, but Gura is the worst in all of Hololive and that will probably never change going forward

>>63970138
Yeah I guess we can do that. But just for awhile.

>>63970138
Sounds heavenly, anon

https://youtu.be/GrocXhe9W1s?t=30m14s
Three years ago today a young Gura told you to suck her toes.

Her hololive career is dying because
Gura herself lets it die.

It's the weirdest decision I've ever seen by a 'known' person.

It doesn't make sense for a young person not to
do the absolute minimum at the very least in order
to keep the money flowing steadily.

She simply let her own fame as Gawr Gura fade.

Even the rock and the dogs get good views now, filling
the vacuum Gura left behind. Cultivating a desperate
holoEN fanbase is the easiest task ever it seems.

The dogs will own the EN fanbase within months.
They're everywhere, spamming streams and tweets,
they even joined reddit.

I feel bad for every genuine remaining fan of Gura's streams.

>>63972167
I will

>>63972215
I'd rather watch fauna and moom but thank you for the offer.

>>63965781
NTA, but as far as her channel goes, Gura went from 6.4 million hours watched in 2022 to 1.8 million hours watched in 2023.

Are we all creepy perverts?

It's like a wise man once said, I guess it ain't easy doing nothing at all.

>>63972565
And how many hours of content were there in 2022 vs. 2023? How many watch hours per hour of content for each year?

>>63972215
She's rich. Why would she continue ruining her mental health when she doesn't need to?
>absolute minimum
It's not like she's completely gone. It's like a vacation. She just has the luxury of taking a longer break because of the industry she's in.

Her fame isn't gone. When she streams she still gets 20k+ viewers, more than pretty much any other EN. If she does a karaoke or a show she'll get even more.

Gura has bipolar disorder and probably psychosis.

Gura has avoidant personality disorder and imposter syndrome.

>>63972565
And in case anyone was wondering for comparision, Gura had 11.6 million hours watched in 2021.
So she's gone from 11.6 million hours watched to just 1.8 million in just 2 years. Her channel IS dying.

Gura has a husband who is the last chumbie who is me

Gura has syncope and pica.

>>63972935
>>63972865
psychology, i.e. 'lol ur weird' as stated by normalfags

I made some scrambled eggs and they are delicious.

>>63972695
Not him, but obviously there were less hours in 2023 and the reduced number of streams caused an increase in ccv for the fewer streams that did occur. An increase in stream time would likely make the hours relatively even between 2022 and 2023. The point remains that hours are down which is causing fans to miss out of content though.

It's unreal to see the young woman
behind the 'Gawr Gura' character
just let this opportunity sink. Not even fighting
to keep what she built.

Gura sold the 'support me to the top' to her fans.
She got to the top, and I guess she doesn't need fans anymore.

I don't feel any connection with the new gen at all,
so my interest in VTubers is fading along with the Gura
character.

Maximum unfortunate it had to be Gura
that did this. She had a good thing going.
All good things must come to an end, but I honestly
couldn't imagine Gura doing a 180 on all of us.

This HAS to be a bot.

Is gura dead?

>>63973278
Gura is kill
>Sanasbutthole.png

Is Gura been a bot this whole time my sirs

>>63973278
she burned up

Gura died without ever mentioning or collabing with males. I have respect for her and she deserves a honourable graduation.

Gura is a Vocaloid.

>>63973385
>a honourable graduation.
ESL detected. *BEEP* ESL detected.
It’s “an” you fucking moron. Get dunked on BITCH

>>63973347
no she said she burned down.

>>63973502
why are ESLs so insecure about grammar?

>>63973502
B-but honourable does not have aeiou. I know my vowels faggot.

>>63973203
Report and move on. He got killed for a week once.

The powers she bargained for are wearing off and she's slowly turning back into Senzawa.

>>63973723
H is silent. Meaning the word starts with O phonetically, which is what matters.
It’s ok that you’re ESL anon, but it’s disingenuous not to preface this information in every single one of your posts.

>>63972167
hot

Gura was on drugs. She's in at home rehab right now. She can't stream because it'll cause a relapse.

OK jannies, mentioning her old vtuber identity is not a the same as bringing up her rl, I know the rules, stop deleting my bad jokes.

>>63972695
Just so you know, you're asking for (total watch time)/(total hours streamed) is equal to average CCV.
It's gone down somewhat from 2021, but not too much. Overall, it's not very useful for determining the overall popularity or health of a channel, as Laplus had the highest average CCV among anyone in hololive by almost 2 times for November 2023, but her channel is essentially dead because she moved all her streaming to twitch.

>>63974162
shut the fuck up autistic faggot

>>63974162
Wow, you are actually retarded.

>>63973405
this, but unironically. since she won't sing for us anymore people are making an AI synthesized version of her instead.

>>63974162
>*cums on you*

>>63973723
You have unfortunately ran into one of English's dumbass exceptions. It doesn't start with a vowel, but it does start with a vowel SOUND (the H is silent) therefore it gets an "an"

>>63974184
Oh so you're just doing live CCV x VOD length, you don't even account for VOD views and average watch time since that info isn't publicly available, A.K.A. your numbers are worthless in the end.

>>63974512
Just don't be literate, then the spelling won't matter and it'll make perfect sense.

one of the aquarium shows is called "sparkling of life" and guess what
https://youtu.be/Jswnz3H2mpk?t=123
full album soon hopefully

>>63973643
>>63973723
NTA, but he's correct and you're ESL. The reason we use "an" instead of "a" in front of words that start with a vowel is because generally, it's to avoid having to say two soft vowel sounds in a row.
So words like honorable in "honorable graduation" would be preceded with "an" while words that start with a vowel like "useful" in "useful idiot" would start with "a".

Has the rhythm guided your way today?

I've started playing osu again

>>63974839
Based song but something is missing. I think it's the production.

It's okay to make mistakes, I'm sure Gura made many too but the only difference is she can get away with it because she is cute.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tQcV9eEH7fk&t=11965s

>>63974998
Every melody just needs a place to fart.

>>63974933
it's not a matter of being ESL, it's a matter of autism

>UHHH GURA NOT DOIN NOTHIN
>song drops
>*crickets*

Will there be fembuds at the Sendai Gurarium?

Where can I find a girlfriend like Gura in real life? Without the tail is fine. I just need a tiny woman. TuT

>>63975308
Middle school campuses

>>63975308
You can find one at the Sendai Gurarium or at Holofes 5.

>>63975308
I wish I knew chumbie. I haven't met many girls like her

>>63974162
I used to think as (You) do, but all I'll say is that the deeper you go into the rabbithole, the more memoryholing the old identity makes sense.

>>63974721
Yes? (Average CCV)*(stream length) is one way to calculate the total streamed watch hours for any given stream, anon. Welcome to mathematics.
If you want to include VOD views for some reason, then you could compare her total channel views gained from 2021 to 2023 and it paints the same picture as everything else except for CCV.

>>63975308
As a swimming instructor, I do not recommend the public pools. Although I get to touch and admire the bodies of young females, I could never cross the line as their parents are always watching. The best I attempt I had was to pretend teaching them some moves for a quick grab.

>>63975777
Total *streamed* watch hours are useless, since you have no data on the people who aren't watching live. Also it's obvious that views will go down when there is less content. This is not indicative of her channel dying, since if she streamed more, her views would go back up.

>>63974721
>>63975777
Also, notice that the top half's y-axis is in intervals of 10 million while the bottom graph's y-axis is measured in intervals of 100k.
Gura's channel is literally flat-lining even worse when you account for VOD views, anon.

>>63969139
>all the girls are sweethearts
rumao

>>63976006
It only seems like it's flatlining because there is less content. Why don't you look at her average VOD views per video. Still like 3x higher than any HoloEN member.

>>63975899
kys predatorbud

>>63975899
Fuck off.

>>63976079
when u dont deliver nothin then the area under the curve always gettin smaller no matter what curve ur talkin about. its simple calculus

>>63975899
This nigga is still alive

im cashing this in

>>63975952
>Total *streamed* watch hours are useless, since you have no data on the people who aren't watching live.
That's literally not how that works. Please look into how calculus works to get an idea of how math involving averages and rates works.
In short, if there are 18000 people in minute 1, 18200 people watching in minute 2, and then 16000 people watching in minute 3, it doesn't matter who was watching when. That is still a total of 52200 total minutes watched or 870 streamed watched-hours.
It is an important metric because it's how channels are ranked in terms of popularity across every major platform.

>>63976279
I hate calgulus

>>63976437
No it's not, channels are ranked in popularity based off VOD views and subscribers.

>>63976442
chumbud u gotta learn it. its integral to ur education huhaha

>>63976437
oops, sorry, I read that as "people who are watching live". My mistake.
If you want data on people who aren't watching live, i.e. VOD views, then again, look at the graph in >>63975777

>>63976489
not for streaming, dummy. But Gura's channel's VOD views have plummeted to almost nothing compared to what they used to be anyways.

>>63976640
300-500k isn't "plummeted to almost nothing".

>>63976640
It's kind of amazing she is getting more views than the rock. I guess people are going back to years old vods.

>>63976538
The graph shows nothing about average video retention, and no I'm not talking about live watch time, which is the most important metric YouTube uses to recommend videos. Click through rate is another.

>>63976856
My wife is so strong

>>63976387

>>63975952
>if she streamed more, her views would go back up.
Yes. And if I won the lottery, my yearly income would be in the millions/billions. The point is that she isn't streaming. And her views and hours watched are nothing compared to what they used to be as a result.
She is most likely never going to stream anywhere near what she used to, if she even is ever going to stream again outside of birthdays/obligations/ads.

>>63977025
So you're just complaining about her lack of streams, got it. Her YouTube channel isn't actually dying since people still watch her streams/VODs as her CCV and VOD views haven't actually changed that much from 2022 to 2023. The only thing that's changed is probably the number of tourists who will tune into big event streams, but the same can be said about the rest of HoloEN.

>>63976079
If there's no activity on a channel, then it's considered a dead channel, anon.

Rizz is oxford's word of the year?

>>63977186
But there is activity on her channel, anon. I watch videos from other YouTube channels who upload less content than Gura does, but they aren't dying.

>>63977186
any game that has less than 100,000 concurrent players is a dead game

NOW YOU'RE JUST CHUMBUDDY THAT I USED TO KNOW

>>63976923
We aren't talking about youtube metrics, anon. Streamer rankings are always done by watch hours and streamed vods are treated differently than uploaded videos by Youtube's algorithm.
And anecdotally, I don't get recommended her VODs anymore at all, even though I used to.
When's the last time you saw the Duolingo vod in your recommendations?

>>63961357
I'm just passing to say it's kinda sad chumbies have to make their own version of this pic
hope things get better for you all

>>63977622
Fuck, you're right. I completely ignored the OP pic.

>>63977569
Gura has never ranked on that stream hatchet thing or whatever garbage so why do you even care about it? I don't get recommended that anymore, but I did get recommended her Necrodancer stream earlier today.

>>63977622
I don't really get the meme

>>63977622
Thanks fren

Ngl i would pay huge amounts of money just to watch an exclusive spy cam of Gura peeing and wiping herself.

>>63977787
Its safe to say that every chumbie would

Anything worth reading in here, chumbies?
I didn't miss anything surely.

>>63977964
No.

>>63977700
She used to be the fifth highest in all of hololive.

>>63977964
Same old, same old same desu

>>63977964
the numberfags are here for some reason

Oh nyo, not numbers again.

>>63977729
It's just holomem showing affection to their fans. But who would want something like that...

>>63977999
Only because she doesn't stream as much, which is your real complaint, not this watch time bullshit.

>>63978148
The best way to do that is shikoshiko asmr. Not many of them do it. Not even fauna.

>>63977999
I would give anything to go back.

>>63978462
same desu

>>63978462
What if she comes back but with mandatory males collabs at least 4 times a month.

my chameleon is sleeping in a new spot

Why are homobeggars like this?

>>63978664
It doesn't matter because she won't.

It really hurts that the last three years didn't mean anything to her.

>>63962666
being perceived as a woman is what makes life easier.
actually being a woman makes you physically weak and a slave to your own emotions which is probably hard to deal with.

I am THE Chumbie.

>>63962666
I always wanted to suck a huge cock. But being a guy makes it harder to find one.

Gura is reading meditations next

>>63979599
My daughterwife is going to become a stoike

I step away for 2 hours and numbersfags are embarrassing themselves. What is up with the last two days? We were pretty this whole week. Did something happen elsewhere?

>>63979687
There is a lack of fembuds.

Gura is contemplating suicide

>>63979687
Some bans were probably lifted.

>>63979192
Yeah, me.

>>63979687
It started RIGHT after the Hololive tweet.
Not too surprising.

I took a nap and overslept..

>>63979757
she's just like me fr fr

Ya'll need to understand that this little white bitch is mine t. niggabud

>>63979882
there was a tweet?

>>63979921
Same desu. I woke up from a nap earlier and now my feet are really warm

>>63980030
it was a tweet on a different account that showed her picture

>>63980135
A small glimpse of gura is enough to enrage people. Shes too powerful