/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

Me at my overnight shift at the hotel while studying japanese.

>>6376632
Me, in general.
>t. Taxpayer

>>6376632
She isn't for you.

>>6376632
she lives in japan so, japan hours i guess

>>6377423
Mori and Kiara lived in Japan and they both were able to stream for people west of India

>>6377513
shit dawg fuck it shes streaming for the japs then

>>6377644
So she’s not HoloEN then. Not to me at least

>>6376632
sleep schedule bros...

>>6376632
People who are ready to upgrade from Mori

>>6376632
Fucking Apex dude! Really!? Fuck that game

>>6376632
>be dedicated singer
>worse than Risu
how is Risu better than all the singing specific auditions?

>>6376632
>12AM PDT
why the fuck is hololive English using timezones shit for NA *and* Europe?

>>6376632
>Stream start times are all between 10 PM and 3 AM EST
Pretty much killed any reason to watch her. Literal multiple generations of JP girls, and the new EN decides to stream JP times. Don't expect a lot of EN collabs except for Kiara who will push for it as soon as the ban is up.

>>6376632
for ME
>t. late night viewer
For real the perfect stream time for me to watch.

>>6378085
>worse than Risu
>worse than Gura
>no content catered to English-speaking timezones
IRyS is DOA

Living in Japan was the requirement all along. I refuse to believe that they had no better options than her.

>>6376632
Those times are so terrible for Europeans she might as well have left them out

>>6376632
all for me

>>6376632
Currently in EN no one USUALLY streams in that slot, at least not on the regular.

Gura streams a few hours earlier.

Ame sometimes streams later (10pm PST start time for late-night minecraft), and Ame also streams a few hours earlier than Gura on the regular.

So, her stream schedule is going to be perfect for West-coasters.

She's for Australians, Kiwis and based nips. EVERYONE ELSE FUCK OFF

>>6377513
Irys probably has a day job that makes streaming during American hours untenable. Mori did it but she's also an insane workaholic and went without proper sleep for like 2 months.

>>6378293
Man, I agree, EU bros have it rough right now.

Hopefully rest of ENGEN2 has some euro-friendly stream times.

>>6378386
>she's for Australians
what makes you think we'd want her?

>>6376632
Welp
Eternal VOD watcher

EU is suffering

>>6376632
>3,4,5,8,7 AM GMT + 1
She's made for me and my fucked up sleep schedule.

>Apex at 12AM PST
who the fuck is watching that in EN timezones

>>6376632
>who is she for?

>>6376632
nice, fuck you, glad someone finally streams for my time zone.

>>6378489
Get deported chink

>>6376632
>>6378293
9P-3A
2-7A
Who the fuck at Cover decided streaming in the middle of the night and early dawn was a good idea for an EN talent?

>>6376632
Perfect for my time zone ngl, too bad I will start my job soon

>>6378002
I’m an irysbeat

>>6378002
And Gura

Euros working from home?

>>6376632
>doom apex
>1 singing stream
Ok now I'm even more confused why she's a solo debut and not part of a gen. At work so can't watch but unless she's fucking AMAZING at singing I don't get it

>>6376632
Good thing they put the schedule hours in PDT because no chance anyone but NEETs are watching in EDT.

What the fuck she already had a debut? Why would she debut in this time slot?
I was busy reading beserk, didn't even expect her to debut in the middle of the fucking night. Why is Cover retarded?

>>6379153
Dumbass

>>6379128
I think Gura and Mori put East Coast times in once, and Mori fucked them up. None of the ENs use ES/DT.

>>6378746
Night owls exist

>>6378201
Well at least the Kiara is in Europe so maybe the collabs won't be at fucking 7am GMT

>doom
copycat

>>6376632
for cover managers to be able to monitor her constantly during the first month

>>6376632
1 Japan and SEA 100%
2 Burgerland and Leaf 70%
3 India and Bugland 50%
...
999 EVROPA 10% (Sleepless Neets)

>>6376632
1. Bad stream times for US and EU.
2. Horrible look/design.
3. Doesn’t sing as good as you would expect for VSinger.
4. Will probably sing often in Japanese more than English anyway.
Conclusion: garbage

>>6379240
That was a jab at Kiara because she has to collab with everyone.

>>6379172
Yes, that's me. You called?
Imagine scheduling one debut for an EN talent and not even bothering to adjust the time slot for Euro - US properly.

It's shocking to me that there are people that dislike Japanese songs here of all places. Are we being raided?

>>6379658
There's dozens of hololive talents that can sing in JP, it just seems strange to recruit an English speaker and then have them sing Japanese songs.

>HoloEN V-singer
>sings mostly in Japanese
This is literally the only Holo to ever release an original song that is 100% in English and her English is garbage. When is HoloEN going to cater to English speakers and stop pretending to be some JP-lite.

>>6379658
It shouldn't, people here will actively taunt you for wanting japanese things to be japanese. EN flung the floodgates for retards wide open.

>>6379809
Her stream times aren’t even for the US. The EN label was just for subs.

>>6379658
If Cover wanted somebody to sing Japanese songs, why not debut another V-tuber under that INNK music label they've literally been sitting on for two years?

>>6376632
>those stream times
HoloEU when

>>6376632
It's literally just a JP singer that knows english roleplaying as an EN member. No one in the EU is going to watch her with those time slots.

>>6378746
My rrats for this are:

>Kiara's early debut approach: During her debut period Kiara schedule was always on jp prime time or middle of the day for jp despite she also mostly spoke english (but it was obvious she wanted to speak japanese). It took her a while to realize she needs to stream in friendly hours for westies, because her numbers were worse than now during those hours (At one point she only peaked at 1k).
>She will not have long streams: Assuming she or Cover will take the Vsinger tag seriously, her non-singing streams will probably last an hour or less since is not the main focus...but that singing stream date...yikes
>Weaboo: Only want that tiny nihongo dick and that thigh lotto's pussy.

>>6380056
100% accurate

>>6376632
>just started trying to fix my sleep schedule
>streams no earlier than 2am GMT
Well, I guess me and most of EU will never watch her live

>>6378253
The requirementa were apparently living in japan, speaking japanese, being successful, and knowing someone at cover. She got in solely through a combination of proximity, bilingualism, being Mel's friend and a youtube glitch she may have not have mentioned was a glitch. She disn't actually have the talent, and everything else qualifies her to be a translator more than an entertainer.

As an entertainment seeker, I feel incredibly shortchanged. EN is like some low quality bootleg of JP, except it's officially sanctioned.

>hololive English
>JP hours
>JP focused content
>Apex at 3AM
gen 6, okay. EN? no.

>>6379872
I can't wait for EN2 to be all Japanese hafu nepotism picks.

People keep whining for new holos to fill dead hours and then when one fills one of the deadest timeslots known to man because it's smack-dab in the middle of the East-Asian workday people complain. Seriously, what do people want? The night JP hours are already filled by Ina and Kiara.

>>6376632
> streams in the middle of the night
perfect for NEETS!

>>6376632
Oddly enough, as someone who works 2nd shift on the East Coast, her streams are mostly when I'm off work. I haven't picked an oshi yet either, so she would be ideal...

IF I didnt think her design was utter over designed Deviantart tier trash, and then got filtered by an EN labeled singer primarily singing JP. Like, why even be EN at that point?

>>6376632
>DOOM
MORI DON'T LOOK

>>6381247
She canceled it/ APEX is still going on as planned though :-)

>>6379809
>the only Holo to ever release an original song that is 100% in English
Reddo Reddo Reddo...

>>6381247
Shes taking doom off the schedule lol

>>6378240
Kill yourself cumbud

>>6381360
I'm a Fanbeat

>>6379809
Isn't Kiara's latest song in full english?

isnt she hawiian of some shit stream times would make sense of use that time zone

REGRET REGRET REGRET

>>6381442
Yes, Sparks is in English

>>6381247
Ame beat Doom in a couple streams. She could easily finish Eternal in a couple days if she felt like it. Thanks Mori!

>>6376632

All of the west coast says hi. Get out of EST, move to California.

I can't wait to watch this exciting new english language vtuber play Apex at 3am on a Friday morning

Fucking jap time zone

>>6376632
I'm interested in seeing her Apex stream to see where her skill level is.

>>6376632
All of hololive is obviously for Australia.

>>6381643
She's from Hawaii, but she's living in Tokyo now.

>>6376632
I'm confused. She's a v-singer but she's still having video game streams?

>>6381442
>Kiara
Not gonna listen to that...

>>6379153
She debuted in prime time NA, roughly the same time gura stream everyday.

>>6379872
>some of the are at 7/8pm pdt
>the same time as coco’s meme review.
???

>>6376632
>Who are they expecting to watch her streams?

The same people who watch Ame half the time she streams, because half the time she streams it's the middle of the night and the loyal Teamates still roll up.

>>6387711
>the same time as coco’s meme review.

Anonchama....

>>6379490
>euro

>>6379658
Yes and no. Many newcomers have zero attachment to JP pop culture and they went in expecting something catering to THEIR tastes, which is to say typical American drivel. They didn't get that, but what this is about - Japanese culture in English. Which is precisely what actual fans want. Obviously to us the fact she sings in Japanese is a bonus. It's not like she won't be singing in English either, but any deviation from the US cultural mindset upsets Americans since they can't handle new stimuli. They are like an exotic inbred bird on an island in the middle of nowhere, and anything that isn't known to them upsets them.

tl;dr the US is the modern equivalent of Qing China.

>>6387988

It boggles my mind to see people complaining about anime girls singing in Japanese and saying they should be singing western pop music instead of jpop. The fuck? Either weeb or gtfo.

>>6387988
Why they even expect that from hololive tho? An agency that's proud of their jap identity and makes holoID anything but Indonesia? If they expect localisation go to Niji you americunts

>>6388098
>If they expect localisation go to Niji you americunts

What little exposure I have to Niji EN is they are pretty weeb too, just generally mid tier.

>>6387894
I know she is gone anon, I am talking about when she was still doing meme review.

>>6379811
You will never be Japanese.

For me, the person that gets home 1 AM PST.

>>6379202
>None of the ENs use ES/DT.
https://twitter.com/gawrgura/status/1411830507621519365?s=19

Anon?

>>6388756
k-kyoudai...

>>6378085
I still don't understand the risu is a good singer meme. Yes she can hit notes, but her pitch is all over the place because she can't stay on top of them. Above average at best.

>>6388098
>Go to Niji
>Pomu sings God Knows 100 times because she's a massive weeb
Ogey

Every EN member apart from maybe Kiara is terrible for GMT times.

>>6385995
>moving to The Apocalypse State
why would anyone do that?

>>6384886
lmao

>>6376632
she's perfectly fine for australian viewers. :^)

>>6389191
No, you guys don't get another one after what you did to Haachama.

>>6376632
SEAnigs.

>>6389115
I don't know what you're talking about, i never catch a Kiara stream in GMT, but Ina's always there to close out the day.

>>6389546
So not English-speakers.

>>6377741
Yuros still exist you know.
I love Gura, but almost never catch her livestreams.
Her slot is okayish for europe.

>>6389696
Nevermind I fucked up my time conversion reps.
Really, for whom does she stream?

>>6389730
I figured it out. She's streaming for her friends and family back in Hawaii. It's perfect for them.

>>6389546

SEA here, take her back

>>6376632
>the only reasonable streams for yuros are APEX™ and the singing stream

>>6389546
anon... She will be streaming in the middle of the day for asia TZ where everyone that matters is working, how is that even a good tz for seanig.

>>6376632
People who lives in California.

>>6390038
People who are working from home.

>>6387800
Cant say for sure yet, but I dont feel she is as entertaining as ame, or as good at vidya in general. Ame is just built different

>>6390632
>I feel like she's not as good at vidya in general
I'm not saying you're wrong, but are you just going on gut here? We've yet to see her stream vidya.

>>6390671
Yeah, it's just a gut feeling. I'm still gonna watch her gaming streams. Let's hope i'm wrong

>>6390052
eww

me cause im a night owl

>/vt/ is being upset she doesn't sing EN songs
Come on guys, just admit that there are literally no worthy English songs in past 20 years. It's so much shit, people would rather listen to kpop.

>>6390882
It's just the ironic weebs screeching. Actual weebs think it's fine and would rather comment on her "quality" of singing.

From the EN branch perspective, it's good that she won't overlap with HoloMyth streams, but she'll be streaming over a lot of ID streams, especially Reine.

Eurofag here, I work from home so I can catch some of her streams during mornings.

Thing is.. I don't care about music. Not just vtuber music, I mean any kind of music. It's all just noise to me and I never watch karaoke streams.

>>6376632
How is she living in Japan? What's her job?

>>6391069
Being a half-nip.

>>6390985
Are you from Germany or what?

>>6376632
Bitch should ruin her own sleep schedule and stream after JP prime time hours. 9am-12pm PST is the sweet spot to capture prime time EU and morning/afternoon NA.

>>6376632
Central Asia and Eastern Europe.

>>6391115
Thatis a retarded time slot, most of NA would be at work.

>>6391188
It's Mori's US AM timeslot. She and Gura are streaming Minecraft at 10 EST.

>>6389546
SEA hour is just JP hour -1 or 2. Because that's just how timezone works.

>>6390985
Damn really? I kinda feel bad for you. You're missing out on a lot of stuff, not only the karaoke streams. But if you dont like it, there is nothing you can do about it

>>6390970
Irys will only overlap with some of Reine’s morning streams. She won’t overlap with Reine’s evening streams, which are usually more than half her schedule.

>>6391200
Yeah and how much of gura’s fanbase will watch the stream?

>>6391271
Probably the same as usual, about 1%

>>6376798
>8pm PDT that's pretty comfy desu. That's around the time JP chuubas come on in their time zone. It's for the salary worker who stays up until midnight and gets up at about 7-8. It seems a common thing in Japan considering holo JP's numbers.

>>6376632
I'm getting filtered by barely tolerable EU hours and her model.
I'm sorry but I'm gonna skip you Irys.

>>6387352
I would give it a listen. It's pretty good!

>>6376632
West coast US basically.

People keep saying >west coast will be asleep and lol no we fucking won't. 7-8:00, 9:00 PM? Would you be asleep around these times? 11-midnight is also not that late at all to me personally, and probably isn't to most people unless they have to get up for work at 5am. Even those people however probably can catch the 7-8pm streams.

If no one is streaming at this slot, then it makes sense for a holo to take it. We want 24h holostreams.

>>6391438
Do you have an opening? We have a holo for that.

>>6376632
>Literally no different from a normal holo
Does she not get what a Vsinger is?
Azki doesn't have daily game streams because she's too busy being an actual professional singer and not discount Gura

>>6391522
Based chumbud dabbing on inferior copies

>>6391522
And AZKi was considered a literal who that only showed up for concert events until more recently when people got to see her personality via game streams. And that was in JP, where utaite are much more common and popular.
This is probably just a way to expidite that without needing to have a 2-year waiting period where the chuuba gets no traction. Remember that for the most part, only Goslings show up for EN karaoke streams.

>>6391590
>muh numbers
No seriously HOW are Holobronies so utterly consumed by numbers?

>>6376632
She’s for me

>>6379127
I'm also confused as to why they've made a distinction between her and a regular vtuber. Her schedule just looks like any other vtuber's and her singing isn't even the best Hololive has to offer.

>>6391636
It's nothing to do with numbers, at least not from viewer perspective. Cover put an incredibly niche product in a niche market and doesn't want to wait for ages for it to profit. It makes sense for them to have her do game streams early on to establish a character and personality and get Goslings that will show up for her music.
The comparison to AZKi is just a proof of the model.

>Another apex streamer

>>6391714
You don't stream, you don't exist to Hololive's fanbase. Ayame is the only one who seems to get away with that rule, and not without controversy.

>>6391069
>How is she living in Japan? What's her job?
Anon, she doesn't need a worker visa to live in Japan. She literally has dual citizenship.

>>6391662
I guess it's because they're not ready to release the EN2 girls?
If she would've debuted with other 4 girls, her schedule would've killed her. This way, she is under the spotlight

>>6391714
So popularity over integrity?

>>6391750
Basically.

>>6391776
Build popularity early so you can have a foundation to later have integrity. The argument is that Integrity is worthless if you're only touting it to 5 people. They already went through that with AZKi (and to a lesser degree, Suisei, although Suisei has always done some game streams as far as I can remember).

>>6379658
There's nothing wrong with thinking the choice is strange when Hololive EN has put out 0 english songs discounting Mori when Hacchama has put out a couple.

Project Cope

>>6376632
>All GMT times are either middle of the night so EU are sleeping or early morning so EU are going to work
Tell me if she gets better and I may watch vods otherwise I'm ignoring her

>>6391757
>dual citizenship
Illegal in Japan. You will get your ass in big fucking trouble if discovered afaik.

>>6391828
Suisei has always used gaming as a way to build her audience, and is decent at it too to boot.

If you check her archives, you can see Undertale VODS from 2019, and she's always been very competent in Tetris, to the point where they're pretty much part Zatsudan since she can pretty much autopilot into the top 20 of any standard Tetris 99 lobby.

>>6391849
Gura, unlike Suisei and Mori, joined Hololive as a streamer with some singing talent and probably didn't have nearly the level of aspirations that some of the other Holomem have in this regard.

I'm certain that one of the (4? not sure if this includes reflect or not) songs Gura is working on is an English original, but given just how many different people she has to interact with, it's going to be slow going. There's mixing, lyrics, MV, etc. In comparison Suisei/Mori, who are able to do more of the process themselves and have more contacts in the JP music industry, are able to put out far more original music and covers as a result.

>>6392297
There are loopholes. For example, involuntary dual citizenship is fine in Japan, such as in the case of marriage to somebody automatically and involuntarily granting you citizenship in the spouse's country.

>>6392423
So you're saying because of the Hololive's talents limited connections to making music is what determines what kind of music they put out?

>>6392297
Technically yes, but in practice, it can be a more complex issue than that. In her case, I believe she gets by due to the fact that she's a hafu, and Japan doesn't actively enforce the law that requires people with dual citizenship to relinquish one of their nationalities.

https://www.japantimes.co.jp/community/2016/09/14/issues/japans-dual-citizens-get-tacit-nod-keep-status-shadows/#.WV7J74jytPY

>>6392584
I'd argue that if one of the Talents went from meme-tier music with talent to wanting to make serious original singles, they'd have to do one of tow things

1. Go through Cover. From what multiple hololive members have mentioned it's first-come-first-serve, so there's a pretty significant waiting time just to set things up.

2. Out of pocket. Talents have the freedom to use their own funds to commission things so they don't have to go through the waiting-game at Cover.

As for the TYPE of music they put out, that one is almost certainly up to the Talents themselves. Some are going to be restricted by their own talent and some will CHOOSE certain styles because they like them.
Limited connections are more likely to cause cost/time issues than affect the kind of music than determine the kind of music they put out, but to say that it has no affect on it would be stupid.

I don't think there's anyone in Hololive that has connections to American/English music industry types, whereas Suisei/Azki/Mori/Sora and some of the other hololive members do have industry connections.

>>6390985
I can understand not caring about vtuber music, since it's mostly just trash-tier pop songs, but it's rare to see someone not like music at all. Did you ever like it?

>>6376632
Australiachads can't stop winning

She's just another prime example that vtubers overall don't really carry over well to western culture. EN gen 1 was surprisingly good, but i doubt they can keep it up. Also her avatar looks like a fucking league of legends splash art.

>>6394228
They weren't good we were just blinded by hype

>>6376632
>first singing stream
>7/16
>7/14 in California
Wow, it's two whole days earlier in the US? How amazing.

>timezones don't include EST

Yeah I didn't watch her debut because I think the idea of a vsinger is dumb and her design is ugly, but she's really making sure I never give her a chance. EST is home to the most important cities in the world and she really should be including that in her schedules, and if she's so careless as to mess up the dates on her first schedule ever I can only imagine how sloppy and unprofessional the rest of her productions will be.

>>6394450
>EST is home to the most important cities in the world
>NYC
>Atlanta
>Miami maybe?

>>6390052
Why stay up until midnight to watch an En jpop stream when I can wake up early to watch suisei or sora?

>>6388895
It's Risu posting about herself, literally. That Indo squirrel needs 69 cocks in her slutty little mouth.

>>6380600

Huh, it’s almost like they designed the job posting with her already in mind.

>>6378002
Nah, that's what LazuLight is for.

>>6376632
she's for me

>>6394768
I'd be surpriced if she even auditioned. Or if they gave all other auditioners a shot

>>6394863
Yeah, how many other people would meet those requirements and also be a good singer? She would have to be the only one.

>Schedule at different hours from other EN members
Why is she streaming at different hours? Terrible schedule
>Schedule at same hours from other EN members
Why is she streaming at the same hours? Terrible schedule

>>6395310
>Mori covers Late Morning/Late Night ET
>Ina covers Late Afternoon/Early Evening ET
>Gura and Ame both cover Evenings/Nights ET
>Ame also covers Late Night ET
There's a large patch available for early/mid-afternoon ET, which would also serve Late Morning PT. This is actually a pretty untapped market for EOPs as ID doesn't really stream much in this time block, either.
>But most people are at work or school at those times.
And most EOPs are going to be asleep at JP/Hawaii hours. Both ways your main audience is going to be NEETs, but at least there's a chance some of NA/EU will see your broadcast during the day.

>>6376632
Apparently us NZers and Australians. Now you know what watching livestreams is like for us.

>>6378746
The USA isn't the only English speaking country

>>6395719
Still better than NijiEN where they all stream at the same time.

>>6395310
She's EN but she's streaming at terrible hours for English speakers. That's the problem Anon.

it's EN singer not 'MERICA singer retard

>>6395927
No shit, fucktard, that's why I put GMT times in there.

>>6395719
It really is dead hours around noon to 5 est. I'm usually watching a jp that went late like watame in that timeslot

>>6395927
Yeah, but it's still a bad marketing move. I dont know the other EN girls' analytics, but probably a lot come from borgarland

>>6378201
Kiara: IRyS will be streaming with ME on MY channel! I'll make sure she calls ME sempai and shows ME the respect I deserve.

>>6396027
Oh yeah for sure she's fucked lmao

>>6395966
EN speakers are basically global right now. But I think she is still trying to find her spot or she streams after comming back from another job.
I won't be surprised if things change in the next weeks.

>>6376632
yea timing is shit, I'll watch the vods

>>6389884
Or at least hard stuck on that time zone or probably hate mainlanders

>>6377423
Most of the JPs stream for japan but the hours are also ok for EU and they even stream regularly at weird hours to try to reach everyone. Holo EN are incredible impossible to watch from anywhere besides the US timezone.

It's cringe half of EN are unwatchable because they stream pretty much with only US timezone in mind; but I'm cool since the JP holos are way better content creators.

>>6395995
Your times don't mean shit if you don't actally say the timezone, also who the fuck formats it like you? Yeah it's 3P in the arvo mate

>>6390909
>ironic weebs
When will you stupid niggers realize you ARE the ironic weeaboos? Vtubers are not some secret underground niche, if you really wanted to call yourself an "actual weeb" you'd be in a doujin thread discussing an up and coming mangaka/LN writer. Vtubers are the 2008-2010 youtubers for wapanese and otaku.

>>6378201
check her stream times to Hawaii time zone and her schedule makes a hell a lot more sense

Seems okay, I've been stuck doing Online classes and I've never been so bored not having any vtubers online in the background at IRyS's schedules

>>6380600
>EN is like some low quality bootleg of JP

Yes it is, and you better get used to it. The most importance will always come first and foremost to the main JP branch. the EN branch is secondary, it is by no means going to get equal resources, it is just a money plug. You'll be lucky if they get home 3d, let alone studio 3d. there simply aren't the progression prospects in EN that there are in JP. They will never have talents used to air commercials on American TV, certainly not during prime time. They will never be invited to American tv shows. There will never be major collabs with supermarket chains and restaurants for hololive goods. They are literally a streamer only group, while JP is a group meant to appear in Japanese media. Of course cover will focus on JP more.

>>6394767
I would actually pin Risu down and put a half white child in her.

>>6396628
This anon gets it.

>>6396628
>They will never have talents used to air commercials on American TV, certainly not during prime time. They will never be invited to American tv shows. There will never be major collabs with supermarket chains and restaurants for hololive goods
And how is this a bad thing last time I checked they wasn’t need to make bank or be relevant

>>6376632
an elaborate test by hololive to see how shitty they can make vtubers and still rake in dough

>>6396628
This anon speaks the truth, sponsorships is where the money is at.

So she is just a regular EN but gets her music payed for by Cover. I thought Vsingers were not supposed to stream that much, damn.

>>6388756
>literally proving my point
thanks

>>6387352
It's actually a banger despite Kiara's bird screeching being auto tuned to all hell. Whoever this KIRA person is carried the song so hard that I'm disgusted that I haven't heard of them till now